Baitcasting reels you should *NEVER BUY*!!!
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I fish with a SilverMax combo every other day, and it's holding up fine after 3 years. Admittedly, it's no Revo, but they've hauled in 25lb catfish and more bass than I can count.
If it works for you god bless, mine just failed.
I agree i have both and they work just fine
@@CentralCoastBass Monessen going for 7 years strong lol
We all have that one failure due to a manufacturer def ect and of course you can't find parts so epoxy, alot of holding the micro sized part 4 hrs then 3 more time reapplying to build it up. Broken reverse pawl. Fixed now.
I fish out of a kayak at least four times a week and have used all baitcasters from all different price points. 1) a black max will last and not fall apart.... ever. I bought a black max I think four years ago and I still use it over my 100$ plus reels sometimes for fun. All the other max reels by abu I haven’t invested in because the black max is good enough for entry level. 2) you can fish these reels four or five times a week.... I have multiple cheaper reels and the best cheap ones are the max family and cadence brand (CB6 and 8). Personally I think this guy just likes expensive things lol because I have lews Mach one and two and it’s better than cheaper reels but it does the same job. This guy is beating up these reels while they’re in his hands. 😂 everyone has there opinion but I bet if you read these comments you’ll see more good than bad out of the max reels at least
I fish abu garcia reels all the time, ora sx has been my go to reel for four years. Just saying these two reels are not good if you fish hard and catch fish 8 hours a day. If you have had a black max four years and it still works, god bless. Mine failed in 6 moths, all three of them.
I have to agree with the original commenter. I’ve had 3 silver max reels and I love them. Never had a single issue with them. But I can see where your coming from CCB. I just bought a Shimano reel and have heard nothing but good things. When I pulled it out of the package you could tell one of the bearings had some corrosion and it kinda soured me on Shimano. I’ll probably give them another try but tried a pflueger instead. It was a little better but not much. I like Abu, Kast king, and Lews.
I’ve been using the black max for 2 years and still is in great shape and works perfectly
Depends on the time fished, my 6 months would equal about 3 years for a normal average fisherman. Lots of hours and lots of casts, a good quality reel would last that long with the same hours and fish.
Going on 3and half years or so with 4 black max reels zero issues and are used 2-3 times a week cleaned and lubed 2x a year
@@fultz.c92 Theirs no different in the 2014 15 black max, silver max, or pro max really. Bearings as opposed to bushings.. never had the worm gear stop but I currently am taking 2 black max and 1 promax and putting together one that will work. These are gen 3. Gen2 the thumb bar was horrible
Thanks, appreciate the honesty! Good video!
I tell it like it is, haha. Thanks.
CBB, came across your channel and found it informative. That said, I am reciprocating what many of your subscribers comments noted. These reels are entry level and the price reflects the quality but allows new anglers introduction to fishing . I tend to Fish 5 to 6 days a week at least 4 to 8 hours a day. Avid anglers soon realize the comfort of lighter rod and eels not only perform and last longer but also take less toll on the body.
My point, invest in quality not crap from the start. Avoid spending less on cheap reels even if you stop fishing. I am evaluating it from a reel stand point...... it sucks. By the way most comments you mention are from channels not subscribed to me.
@@CentralCoastBass so people need to be subscribed to you to have a valid opinion or real world experience with these reels? What does being subscribed to you have to do with the overwhelming majority of people having good experiences with these reels?
I’ve had the black max for 3 years now and nothing has gone wrong and I dish about 3times a week never had an issue with the thing
Your lucky, all three of mine broke withing 6 months.
I have had mine for a little over a year and mine still works fine
floxts then your not a serious fisherman
Mine works fine had it for years
Central Coast Bass damn
Hi there, What is your view on the Kingkast Spartacus plus?. This would be my first baitcaster reel.
Never fished it so I can not recommend it. We did a video about best reels under a hundred check that out.
I agree with yo especially on the black max, ive owned multiple of them and they are quiet at first but after a couple days of use they turn into junk and they start popping inside the reel.
Yep, and the more fish you catch, the worse they get.
I only fish saltwater tidal creeks. I've fished 2 orras for about 5 years no problems. I've also had worm gear problems on the Black Max and Silver Max. I started spraying the worm gear with reel magic before going and after rinsing with fresh water upon return i spray the worm gear and whole reel again. This has greatly improved the life span of my worm gears on those reels. I used to fish buzz baits at night for bass until I got to old to stay up all night and had many push buttons go out. I don;t seem to have as much problem with the push buttons now because I usually fish a lot slower with either grubs or mud minnows on jigheads.
I also have two oras for 5 years no problem. But even people that really take care of the black and silver max have issues like you said. Thanks.
I use Kastking reels costing from $29 to $65, and my wife uses Lews/Abu, and yes, 1 blackmax, 12 reels in total. We have fished these reels for 5 years, caught over 1,000 bass/northerns in that time period, (I record every catch, lake and weather conditions for each day out) and I only had 1 older, +6 years old, KK reel that the thumb bar return spring came off it's retaining stud and got bent out of shape. Although a discontinued reel, they went and found my spring in their boneyard. Personally I will keep on using the "lower end" reels.
If they work for ya keep using them,
Wow I thought I was only one with the thumb bar problem..jeez glad someone pointed it out.
Yep its true.
Easy to fix
Hey Central Coast Bass! I want to buy my first ever baitcaster, and i would like to get the black max but now that ive seen your video i see the points you are getting at, but if i use the reel like once a week beacuse i dont have time because of school, i think its going to have no problems. What do you think? Please share it with me!
Check out the best under a hundred video. The pro qualifier from bass pro shops.
Wish I had seen this review before buying my Blackmax. Mine started having the same issues as well as major drag slip within about a month or 2 of casual use.
Have you tried carbon drag washers? I hear nothing but good things about them so far
The Quantum ACCURIST PT S3 Baitcaster reel is pretty good for judt under $100.00. Comes with a flipping switch too. Great drag. Shawn.
Damn to bad I had a stroke and dont fish anymore, I was looking for a new flipping reel for around a hundred.
Thanks Man. Honesty is the best policy. I appreciate this video. and you sharing your experience! God bless!
Thanks, a lot of people just think I hate abu but I've fished their reels on my channel for the last 5 years. Its just 100 dollar reels which are far better then these.
@@CentralCoastBass there's no reason for anyone to hate. Unfortunately that's the world we live in. I can't knock anything until I try it and I'd share my personal experiences too. People have the right to speak how they want about whether something works or doesn't for them. Its great. And the right to discern each comment and article on said product before making a purchase. (Not directed at you or anyone else.) I did take your advice on the pro qualifier 2 for my first casting reel, on your other video, before I even saw this video. Was looking for longevity. Thanks again!
@@FreedomFishing Yes the original pro qualifier is still working for me, been like 7-8 years.
Nice tips sir, my black max has issue now for drag is getting slip and really very hard to full 500g weight of snakehead. What should I do to repair it. And how about Abu Garica pro max3 baitcasting reel
Don't fix it and don't buy the other black max. Upgrade to the revo X, hundred bucks but worth the money.
@@CentralCoastBass sir we don't get higher than promax here in India. So I can't think of that model u said. So would pro max 3 be ok or should I go for Diawa fiugo ct
@@AnubhavAnkitGeorge In that case I would go diawa
@@CentralCoastBass what u do with ur old reel whose retrieve isn't remain smooth, do u change that reel's part or upgrade.
My Black Max Revo SX has stood the test of time. I almost bought the BM you've had so much trouble with so I got lucky when I made my choice to pair with the Abu Garcia Vendetta 7'3" MH rod.
My friend bought a Revo SX seems to be a good reel.
You're talking a $160 vs $50 reel. Not even the same ball park.
@@europeanian4205 of course, but the point is that I went ahead and paid extra for what I felt like was going to be the better buy in the long run and I got lucky this time. There were good reviews on the other reel at that time but the negative ones were almost all of the same issue that this post touched on and that worried me. Hope this makes more sense.
The new REVO SX is a $100 reel as far as I know.
@@CentralCoastBass $169.99
I do mostly KastKing, Lew's and Shimano SLX DC. Mitchell 300 pro, Piscifun and Ugly Stick spinning and ultralight gear. Never a problem just stepping up a little bit.
I'm not a fan of kastking or Uglystick, but the rest are fine.
@@CentralCoastBass I just ordered my 3rd Kastking because the first 2 have been perfect.
@@petejansen8098 Thats nice glad they work for you,
Who makes the bass pro reels? And whats ypur opinion on kastking baitcast reels?
I thought it was browning or whoever makes browning reels, but I might be wrong. I'm not a fan of kastking reels.
The thumb bar issue I have had with mine, I have to push it down even further to get it to re-engage
Its a reel that has issues, that's why its not a good reel.
Wish I could fish 4 days a week 7 to 8 hours. Recently I just started fishing once a week, 4 to 5 hours again. probably have 120 hours on my blumax, 80 hours on my pflueger monarch. Yes they are very inexpensive combos, and it's easy to believe theyd fail under that kind of work load. Especially that pfluegar, it was such a pain to "break in" it finally started working for me these past few months. Itll surely fail by the end of this summer, if I can get out and fish regularly.
Hey I got sanlike baitcaster bass moon I just wondering if it is any good I bought off Amazon
No idea, let us know.
I had a gold promax.. The most problem was the worm gear. 2 or 3 times i had to replace it.. But the last thing i do is put it on the shelf.
I agree all max series can be use but don't expect it work like revo series... Peace
All I was saying is other reels in the price range are probably better.
I have the silver max and my friend has the black mx and we have had our reels for 1 year and our reels are as buttery as can be
Great, glad you found reels that did not break like mine. Keep fishing my friend.
I got myself the Cadence CB8 recently, got any experience with it?
No I do Not, Reels I use and like are Bass pro shops and actually Abu Garcia. Just need ones $100 dollars or more.
@@CentralCoastBass Ah I see, I have family and friends that have the Cadence brands and they say they act very closely to the expensive versions
Got into baitcasters recently. Was recommended a Lew’s American Hero combo for $100 bucks at my local Scheel’s. I am not a baitcasting expert but I’ve had it for about 3 months now and have had 0 issues with it. Prior to me purchasing it I was very close to picking up the black max at Walmart.
Looks like you avoided one fishing mistake,.
I have found that the lower end Lews reels work well. Just wish they would offer a MH pole optiion in the combo.
Have you used Kastking or Piscifun? the new kids on the block. There is also Sixgill.
i Have a Piscifun But it Clicks and Makes Noice i Don't Like it Kastking are the Best Man
I'll stick with what I love, although kind of funny after this video. It is actually Abu and bass pro shops reels, just the higher end ones. Thanks.
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Went through 3 Abu Hank Parker series reels that all had one of the same problems before trying the Black & Silver Max. Ended up with the same result. I agree, the lower end Abu Garcia reels are all P.O.S.
(Never owned the Bass Pro reels.)
Thanks for believing me, just telling what happened.
I loved the cardinal bug when they went to the max series reels they turned unto straight trash. For the $ its to be exoected but the cardinal was $34 to $45 and were superb spinni g reels
Ya, I never fished spinning reels for bass so I wouldn't know, but thanks for the info.
I got a black max. I fish every day with it never had the problems you describe until I caught a 7lb bass! The reel was never the same! I threw it away.
Yep, put a little abuse on them and they cave more times then not.
Tnx a lot!!!!
Your welcome.
I fish with mostly reels in the $200 range and rods in $$150 but I recommend atleast spend $100 for each. But there are some hidden gems. Like a Mitchell 300. Its a $30 reel its as smooth as butter and will last a lifetime if took care of and maintained.
Quality my friend.
ccb i have found your channel and i would like yo say that i own the black max rod and reel combo I got for Christmas and they have worked great i have cot many fish on it and i a northern pike that was 4-5 pounds and it worked great no hate but im just saying
That's great You found one that works, but try 15-20 4-5 pounders on it. Then multiple 2-3 pound bass on it and maybe a 6-7 pounder. If you catch a lot of fish on it and use it day after day it does not last. Compared to my $100 dollar ora sx reels that I have had for 4 years and caught twenty times those fish on it and its still fine. They are not good reels.
I agree 100%. My Black Max does the same crap. Total junk! Im so done with it. What baitcaster would you recommend for a reasonable price? Thanks in advance!
Bass pro shops pro qualifier 79.99 did a video on it. Have one for 8 years no problems. New model out now but viewers bought them and love them.
@@CentralCoastBass Thanks!
Get a shimarno Slx it’s a mad combo
Why get what someone else would get? Look and see what you like. Do the research and get the one you want.
Wow great tips sir, I too have this black max and it is not as smooth as it was new same with my Royals Ledgen casting reel. I too go 3 to 5 times a week for 4 hours . But my reels r not so smooth when I grease or clean too. Can u suggest me how to get. While retiving I get some kind of noice which is not coming when reel used to be New. Kindly help me I too upload snakehead video there u can hear those irritating noice.
Just trying to help fisherman. $100 bucks, aluminum frame and 6 plus bearings, all you need to know.
@@CentralCoastBass sir my Royal Legend is 11 Ball bearing reel but still not so smooth after some month.
@@CentralCoastBass sir aluminum fram is more better or carbon fibre fram for casting reel. Which one is nice and why, please make video bcoz i think as far Daiwa make it's fram out of aluminum and Abu Garcia may build out of carbon fiber, so sir now I m bit confused which one to choose.
i not sure about this cause i use a shimano....but i always hear lot my friends complain about black/silvermax reel.. thumb bar always problem after 9 or 10 month use..... sorry i don't really know black or silver max reel...
Just don't buy these reels and your god. LOL.
Oh for the good ole days. The second baitcaster that I ever bought, around 1983, give or take a year or so. It was a Shimano Bantum. I believe for about $25. This was shortly after Diawa came out with they're magforce and my Shimano had a magnetic braking system too. I picked up two and gave one to my Uncle. My Uncle due to an accident while he was a child was a little mentally impared, I'll just say he could tear up a steel bar with a rubber hammer but he loved to fish. I was single and worked 4 days per week so we were on the water fishing 3 days per week most of the time. The abuse he gave his was unreal like just dropping in the sand on a sand bar etc. It took him over 3 years to tear it up. Mine was still working perfectly until about 20 years ago when I lost it in a pawn shop. They don't make um like they used to, at least at an affordable price.
They don't make them like they use to. But even reels 4 times the cost these days don't hold up. Thanks so much.
Michael Mcgee You hit it on the head with your last line. Companies now charge too much for inferior junk, and personal income was better, when considering cost of living. Now, you can’t find a reel that would last 25 years for less than $250.
Did you buy a corolla to race with corvettes too?
Yes but I put nitrous in it, it was a sleeper for sure.
Sheet that sucks cuz i have a black max i bought years ago and I just figured out how to cast it thanks for the heads up
Thanks just wanted to let people know.
I’ve had my black max for a while now and it’s still holding up ⬆️
Good for you.
His colors are on his shirt. He is as lit as me. I cannot say i trust him.
Yes true.......
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Hi from Indonesia
Bottom line is you get what you pay for. Would love to see a video of your tackle organization
Yes brother and my tackle organization sucks, you don't want to see that video.
@@CentralCoastBass I think we still would lol I'm terrible at it myself
You should do more videos like this. Fishing gear that’s crap. May God Bless you.
Thanks I'll try
I agree with what you are saying I've Been an ABU Garcia guy most of my life and have never been impressed by their small baitcaster offerings like the black max. I personally prefer the older style big body reels. 4000, 5000, 6000 series. I've got a 4000cb and a 5500c which are probably 20 years old and still function like new. yeah they don't have all the mag brakes and stuff on them but its never been a problem for me.
My Ora SX reels lasted me 4 years and many hours and tons of fish. and are only $100.
Been flinging Garcia Baitcasters since they introduced the thumbar. I will not fling these! Thanks!!
Just doing my job. Thank you.
LOL.
Aside from some of the older premiers, I totally agree. The stx, the mgx and mgxtremes that I have purchased are complete junk.Side plates fall off then eventually the gears bind up and you can’t cast a 3/8s jig more then 20ft. I initially bought 2 mgx and 2 mgxtremes for some NRX and conquests that I picked up. I wanted to make the set ups super light, so I went with these models after reading some positive reviews. Man was I wrong.I should have bought steez or metaniums. I’ll NEVER buy an Abu reel again. Complete garbage.
I also saw positive reviews, then I said I got to tell people the truth.
The black maxx cast ok but I don’t like the feel of it and the rod that comes with it is heavy
Combo sucks more then the reel, just saying. Thanks.
I just use Ambassadeur round reels made in Sweden just a simple great reel.
Those are great, its just the blackmax and silvermax I don't like. I fish the old revo sx all the time, they make great reels.
I loved my black max but I left it in the back of my utv while mudding and it might be ruined
Not a big loss in my opinion, hahaha.
I think some are just defaults i just ordered one yesterday now im nervous..
That's what I thought but all 3 I had did the same thing, it was years ago but I think the quality for them is still the same. It is there cheapest reel, my ora sx now revo x still works great after 4 years.
does Magreel make good baitcaster reels?
NO idea.
There a good little reel for a beginer i think the thing is your are expecting a top end reel out of a cheap budget reel here
True that.
I admit it... I have a Black Max... Ill be looking out for that now..... lol
Only one, damn took me three to realize the crapness, Your a smart man. LOL.
@@CentralCoastBass I figure I didnt fish as much as you do and needed quantity over quality at the time... cause my old gear was stolen in 2012... lol but I did buy a nice Ambassador....
I threw in the trash 2 revo sx and 1 stx Abu Garcia with less than 6 months already had all sorts of problems, including two only from compacting the line on the spool, the side cover was blown....Abu Garcia never again
I have 2 ora sx that I still use, been five years and they are still good. But I might of just got lucky on those.
You are right real talk
Thanks.
I had a shamano citica that would have issues engaging after casting. You wouldn’t think a $300 real would have that problem.
Crap gets in the spring they use that snaps it back into gear. Cheap reels do it more often because the spring steel is not as strong.
Cheep but good I have 3 black Max's. And the first one I have had for years used it in salt water off and on and did not even clean or oil for over a year in a storage box after salt water fishing pulled it out cleaned and oiled and works great. Great cheep reels. I don't care how much you fish you will have failures. I do mostly use Shimano and Favorite now but not think twice about using a black max.
That's good for you, mine just failed really quick. Thumb bar and worm gear pin broke in all of them.
I beg to differ I have had a silver max for over 10 years never had a problem. Number two if the worm gear can is not moving then you may not have the system set up correctly.
The pin that runs in the gear broke on mine. You are very lucky.
I love my silver max. It was my first baitcasting reel. I feel like these reels aren't for advanced anglers like you. I feel like they are more for novice anglers that are just starting out and getting into their first baitcaster. Plus these reels are budget friendly they are not top notch.
Yes I know but I am thinking about the new hard core bass angler. If you thinks its you don't buy this reel. First time reel yes if your not serious about bass fishing maybe because the price is right.
Save your money and get Shimano reels. Yea they cost a lot BUT you get over 10 years of quality out of them. If you’re paying $40 for these cheap reels every year it costs more in the end.
You won’t be disappointed
Curado, Calcutta and Stradic spin are worth the investment.
Tight Lines 👆🏼
Not a shimano guy, Diawa since the 80's but don't fish them anymore. Burnt out a few shimano reels as well during my 40 years of fishing, cheaper models of course.
Always used shimano not diawa
You need to be diligent and service them yearly. I’ve burnt out a couple as well but they lasted many many years.
Hello Central Coast Bass, I ENJOYED your video on what Baitcasting Reels that you should'nt BUY. Unfortunatly I have a Silver Max in my possesion but when Cabela's has their sale on new reels, you get a discount of 10 to 15% for a trade in on a New Jonnie Morris Rod and reel combo. THANK YOU for your advise my FRIEND, you are a LIFE SAVER! Sincerely Mr. Carl J. Gwizdala.
Thank you, a lot of people did not like my advise on these reels. But I'd seen people on youtube say these reels were really good. The ones I had were not good. so I told my story.
Couple of things. For a lot of fishermen, a $100 reel is not something they can just lay money out for. It’s something they have to save toward and even then, it may be impossible because of their money situation. I know cheaper baitcasters can be hard to work with sometimes, but for some, that’s all they have and they work really hard and practice to figure them out to make it a net positive for themselves.
Second. This may just be me, but if I have something I absolutely hate in my possession, I wouldn’t give it to somebody. If I disliked it so much, I’d just toss it in the trash.
I was just saying there are better $50 reels out there. The other two I gave away, one guy fixed his, the other one used it for parts.
@@CentralCoastBass I can see how that would be a great solution. I do have a question though. How easy would it be to fix a more expensive reel? Like say something in the Shimano DC family? Or is that just a fool’s errand?
More specifically. Slipping gears…..
My piece of advice is to spend a little more up front. I get that money is tight for a lot of people, but you get what you pay for, in a very general sense.
People on a budget tend to always look at price first, but I would rather spend 100 dollars once, than 60 dollars twice. Kicking the can down the road is a horrible mentality to have.
I wait for things to go on sale, then I buy them, and I'm generally happier to have something a little nicer.
For someone like me, these reels are perfect. I have both a black max and a pro max. I'm 15 and I try to fish at least once a week. Most of my rods and reels I have purchased myself, so it makes sense to use budget friendly gear to me
Once a week yes those reels will last for awhile. I was fishing them 5 days a week.
@@CentralCoastBass appreciate the reply
Well said YoBoiEli. You just keep fishing. Time on the water is the key. Sure, a $40 reel will wear out with hard use. In the meantime, Occasionally take an old toothbrush and clean the level wind, grease it and apply a couple of drops of rem-oil. Give it a couple of turns and wipe off excess grease. The other issue identified is addressed by simply extending the life of the disengagement clutch. Upon casting, be sure to have the spool come to a complete stop before engaging the retrieve. Spray bearings with carb cleaner and apply rem- oil..Tight lines my friend~
@@mooutlaw417 thank you for the advice I try to clean my reels at least every couple weeks. Tight lines to you too!
Buy cheap and pay twice! Thanks for the tip.
Or like me buy three times, hahaha.
@@CentralCoastBass I recently purchased two Abu Garcia Revo X reels after watching another review...wish I had seen this first...I paid $95 for each reel...Do you have experience with this reel? I haven't been able to get out and fish with them since the quarantine...I am anxious to try them out.
Sir you tips is helpful to me, I to go for 3 to 4 days a week for snakehead fishing and I have 3 Royal Legend nd 1 black max but all reel after 2 to 4 months of time get some problems like I'm not getting smooth retrieve getting more noice like ur silvar max, and some time one side level gear, nd one day on my Royal legend Handel stucked. This Handel stuck problem how I could solve. Sir plz plz respond or give me ur E-mail id I need to ask more doubt. I'm from India nd I m planning to buy Abu Garcia pro max is it good. Plz respond me sir. And keep giving your true advice to us.
Did you get my E-mail? if so I hope it helped.
@@CentralCoastBasssir I think I didn't get ur email id. Mine is anubhavankit12@gmail.com
@@CentralCoastBass is abu Garcia pro max good enough to buy
@@AnubhavAnkitGeorge I would go with the revo X, its the $100 dollar reel that replaced the ora sx. Aluminum frame is much stiffer and should last longer.
@@CentralCoastBass Thank you sir but here in India I'm not getting Revo X whereas Daiwa CC80hl and Daiwa fuego ct100xl. so sir which one would be good.
I picked up an all Aluminum Browning Citori from EBay for 34 bucks and it’s insanely nice and high quality. I have a new Quantum KVD PT Graphite frame that’s fairly disappointing. I think if you can find a used Aluminum Frame you are better off than new Graphite Lol if you are on a Budget like me then do some research. The Older Bass Pro Tournament Pro is also extremely nice and Aluminum frame, not that Tourney Special disaster lol.
Browning is owned by Bass Pro shops so the reels should be great.
These, although I don't have any of them, are optimal for many non-pros who will get a lot of years out of these units. Also, this is going to sound super judgy, but you seem slightly inebriated, were you? Curious...
Yes I was, at the time I needed it to make my videos. Don't drink at all now. Also I made this video because a lot of youtubers were reviewing these reals and giving it 5 stars. Even at its price point they are way worse then that. I've used baitcasters for 40 years and had lots of pretty bad reels, usually cheap ones.
Most people don’t have sponsernd they have to buy what they can afford
That's me also.
If your whole arsenal isnt black max then youll be fine usually because youre only using it for a portion of the day if your swapping rods out through the day junk fishing
Exactly what I meant, once in awhile but if its the premier reel it will fail quick.
@@CentralCoastBass them suckers cast pretty good though
“Im probably gonna get a bit of resistance for these first to picks.” Golly, weren’t kidding. Years later and the comments are still coming.
Yep.
Ayy I had the orra sx as my first good reel. Birthday present
My first ones ever and still using and loving them. Funny after I made this video about other abu reels I hated.
*Love this reel **allabout.wiki/01fs** but not entirely as advertised. Mine came with the reverse switch(I do not like the reverse switch - one more thing to go wrong and more complicated to rebuild) the pics did not show the reverse but it came with it anyways. I do still recommend this reel, it is awesome.*
Good for you.
well maybe there are not meant to be taken apart all the time because i have had a black max for 4 i fish everyday of the week and fish for hours and still nothing is wrong with it.
I never took any of them apart, they broke within 6 months. Glad yours is working but most don't last that long with abuse on them.
@@CentralCoastBass yea thats kind of funny that i just commented because i just got a new shimano slx dc baitcaster reel and an abu garcia vendetta rod last night.
I would just avoid anything with a carbon frame. They just flex too much, and things come out of alignment, and there's less attention to detail in the cheaper products.
And cheaper materials that build them.
@@CentralCoastBass I honestly don't know as I've only had 1 cheap baitcaster, and I returned it within a couple days of buying it because it was garbage across the board.
I would rather spend more and know I'm getting a good reel.
The bob ross of fishing
thanks I think, lol.
Those reels are built and sold for beginners and intermediates. Pretty obvious if you have any common sense they are not made for a tournament fisherman to fish for 5 days a week for seven to eight hours. I would assume something like this would be obvious but I guess not
Sorry that wasn't meant to sound as harsh as it came off LOL
No problem
RIght, you need to get to about 70 bucks before you can get a real which cast and actually hold up
And an aluminum frame, graphite flexes to much.
I'm having the same issues
They all do it.
Abu Garcia has a habit of the side plate flying off on the Revo X models! Chinese crap. I throw Shimano exclusively now, I'll never go back.
Good for you, I started as a diawa guy myself, back 40 years ago most my friends were shimano die hards.
I disagree I think both reels work extremely well for the $ also the reviews I read are mostly positive
The reason I did this video was because of others reviews, they always gave them good reviews and I knew they did not perform very well. TH-camrs never want to be negative about something people like..
Not too sure about this...
But I see where you are coming from
Just being real about the situation, I love Abu just not these low cost reels. Same with Bass Pro reels, you get what you pay for.
The cat ar reel costs 4 time more now at daya
Man i just got The reel For 64 euros and the seller said that The prices are like the old ones.
Thanks.
Yo, can I buy you another drink !!
Sure.... I was pretty bad back then....
Well I’m not getting a bait caster I think I’ll stick to a spinning reel
If you do get one make sure its a little more expensive. hahaha.
Halo 5 126 all depends on what type of fishing your doing bait casters have come a long way
The max line put a bad taste in my mouth bought a pro max and eventually after a season the drag quit working never buying another abu
They have issues.
There fine for a person who fishes once or twice a week. But if you fish often they aren't that great. In my opinion spend atleast $100 on a baitcaster.
My point, at least a $100 buck your golden.
Why would someone that fishes as much as you say you do even buy a cheap 50 dollar reel in the first place.
I needed beater reels.
@@CentralCoastBass well try some cheap Lews reels. they seem to hold up better then most.
The blackmax is under $50. Its a great beginner/budget reel. Its not intended for a pro tournament reel. Ive had a blackmax and still fish it heavy and haven't had any major complaints. For the money I think its a great reel
These were beater reels I used at my pond, either I fish harder then most or they break easy. Since all three I bought broke within 6 months I think its the latter. Thanks.
You get what you pay for! those reels aren’t made to fish every single day. Their truly throw away reels, I used to use those reels until I started fishing more. Now I use shimano curados, the DC reels, SLX etc.... I do have several original black max 1600 and let me tell you those things were built well ahead of their time. These are the round reels from the late 90’s and stop making.
That's what I said, put some abuse on them and catch a lot of fish and they have issues in 3 months. Yet people defend them and say they have been fine for years, must fish once a month, lol.
I think it's time for a new intro guy haha just kidding
It makes me feel young, haha. Thanks
If you only fish like every once and a while I feel like these reels wouldn’t be too bad
Why not upgrade, they fall apart pretty quick.
Central Coast Bass yeah but I think it depends, because obviously if you’re like me fishing three days or more of the week then it would fall apart fast. If you fish once a month maybe not
I have a black max and that didn’t happen with mine
Well good for you, wish I could say the same.
Black maxes are not too bad for a being user
If you don't use them very often they are fine, just not a daily grind reel.
@@CentralCoastBass Thier a entry level too lern on
@@CentralCoastBass They work just fine I use my Lewis American hero they work just fine so do the black max
OK if you fish as much as this guy does, don't buy those reels. But if you are a normal person that takes care of his reels (takes them apart, cleans and lubricates them) those reels with be just fine. There's no reason to spend hundreds if you don't need to.
Not hundreds, never spent much over a hundred for my reels that have lasted years with many hours on the reel. I lubricate and clean my reels but never take them apart to do it, that's to much work. LOL.
Good evening, do you have an old baitcast reel you can donate to me please?
Don't actually have any working old reels, gave them away already.
They aren't meant for that kinda of abuse..
I have inexpensive reels that last, pay just $20 bucks more and have a reels that handles abuse.
@@CentralCoastBass what $20 reels hold up to that abuse.. I want one..
@@timfisher1376 Do you read comments like you watch videos, I said add $20 bucks to those reels and you have one that handles abuse. You look like a fool.
Thanks for being honest!👍 I bought an ultra max combo that I've had for 4 years and somehow it's still going on strong! (I also do bass fishing tournaments and fish it for hours!) it's pretty nice! I don't know if I just got a good one, but I've fished it in brackish water and I just dunked it in water, greased it and oiled it, and believe it or not, it still is just as good!😂 It's not as nice or smooth as my $200 reels, but for the price, it's a tank! The only problem I've ever had with it is one time only, it did the clicking thing, but honestly, it's pretty good! I also have a mega cast (too bad I bought it before I saw this video! Lol 😂) but so far so good! I might upgrade some of the gears, for the money,(this is also just my experience!) It's alright! It's not smooth and it has a normal drag rate for a baitcaster its size (12 pounds) I think it's pretty nice for a beginner reel, it casts somewhere between 30-50ft on average! But then again, I have mine on a carbonlite rod, I'm also probably gonna get a 13 fishing concept z reel to replace it, I'll probably put the mega cast on a cheaper rod,
Thanks for the video though, you definitely saved me $50-70 on a blackmax or silver max!👍
I try to help out other fisherman as much as I can. My experience can help others not make the same mistake.
@@CentralCoastBass thank you very much! As I said, you really saved me $50-70 on a cheap baitcaster, I forgot to mention on my ultra max, one time I took of my handle nut to get some line out of my star drag, and I had to work almost an hour trying to get it back on! It's DEFINITELY not as good as any of the $200-500 reels out there, but for what it is, I do appreciate it! (That's just my experience as well) thanks very much for the video and the reply!👍
My wallet is telling me to buy budget reel
Just so you don't buy these you should be good, haha.
I've fished Piscifun baitcaster reels before, they seem pretty nice for the price! If you want distance, you should try the Piscifun phantom! (I hope this was helpful!)👍
I don’t get it......why does a ‘professional’ bass fisherman even have these in his arsenal??
This was years ago, had no money heard they were good. Found out not so much just wanted to warn people.