As a tip for those that can't get these out. The rubber swells over time and can even cause the rubber to break. This is what happened to me (I think) and it made the removal process very difficult with no special tool and just the plastic piece that turns it 1/4 turn. I used WD40 and took my time, eventually, once I had enough of it out. I grabbed big adjustable pliers and grabbed the thick plastic piece instead of the post and started turning it back and forth until it slowly started to give.
Excellent video! Most I’ve found only show the cartridge replacement procedure which I found to be a lot easier than the posi handle installation and adjustment. I found after installing the HD cartridge that the lever is actually so easy to move that it will slip down to full hot (9 o’clock) from approximately midpoint between 10 & 11 o’clock. Have you had this happen? The plastic cartridge gets harder to turn over time I wonder if that will happen to the HD brass cartridge.
Thanks! I haven’t had that happen (slipping down to full hot at 9 o’clock angle) and I’ve even added lots of extra grease around the cartridge. May be a poor fit between the cartridge and the pipe? I would try removing and reinstalling super carefully to see whether it still happens.
@@LongologoProductions I ordered a second HD cartridge and installed it today. The Moen handle is very heavy and seems to be what caused the first cartridge to slip. The second new HD cartridge valve is just a slight bit tighter, which seems to be enough to keep the handle from slipping on its own. I also had the 180 degrees out of sync on this one-so certainly appreciate you addressing that in the video as well! 💪 👍
@Nicolas Arevalo: The parts for the shower flow control lever/valve would be different, so it really depends on the specific lever/valve you have installed. Sorry I can’t be more help.
@Paul: The quarter turn is to loosen / release the old cartridge, because part of that process actually pulls the cartridge forward a bit to make it easier to remove. Inserting the new replacement cartridge is different-it is lubricated and inserts easily and you don’t turn it a quarter turn. Same for HD and for non-HD versions. Hope that helps.
@@Tendertroll1 : yes. We haven’t had any issues with it. Just replacing the cartridge every few years if the handle gets a little harder to turn. Honestly once it’s installed you kind of just stop thinking about it and it just becomes part of the bathroom….
First, make sure you have any gunk cleaned out of the bolt head so your Allen wrench can fully grip the bolt head. Second, make sure you have a long enough arm on the Allen wrench to give some leverage. Third, consider putting a drop of liquid wrench behind the bolt head and let it soak in for 30 minutes or so and then try to remove it. I hope that helps.
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Thanks for this video. I especailly like that you added the part at the end because I encountered this problem and your instructions were spot on!
@Steven Arndt: Glad it helped!
This was really thorough and helpful. When mine went bad didn't think I'd be able to fix it but I did. Really appreciate you!
Thanks for the kind words and happy to know this helped you!
The last part was the gem I needed! Thanks for the very helpful video!
Thank you!
As a tip for those that can't get these out. The rubber swells over time and can even cause the rubber to break. This is what happened to me (I think) and it made the removal process very difficult with no special tool and just the plastic piece that turns it 1/4 turn. I used WD40 and took my time, eventually, once I had enough of it out. I grabbed big adjustable pliers and grabbed the thick plastic piece instead of the post and started turning it back and forth until it slowly started to give.
Excellent video! Most I’ve found only show the cartridge replacement procedure which I found to be a lot easier than the posi handle installation and adjustment. I found after installing the HD cartridge that the lever is actually so easy to move that it will slip down to full hot (9 o’clock) from approximately midpoint between 10 & 11 o’clock. Have you had this happen? The plastic cartridge gets harder to turn over time I wonder if that will happen to the HD brass cartridge.
Thanks! I haven’t had that happen (slipping down to full hot at 9 o’clock angle) and I’ve even added lots of extra grease around the cartridge. May be a poor fit between the cartridge and the pipe? I would try removing and reinstalling super carefully to see whether it still happens.
@@LongologoProductions I ordered a second HD cartridge and installed it today. The Moen handle is very heavy and seems to be what caused the first cartridge to slip. The second new HD cartridge valve is just a slight bit tighter, which seems to be enough to keep the handle from slipping on its own. I also had the 180 degrees out of sync on this one-so certainly appreciate you addressing that in the video as well! 💪 👍
@@e36z32 : Glad it worked out for you! Seems that some of this stuff isn’t as precise as it should be, right?
Thank you for the video.
for JmP shower, a good guide for making valve change
Would it be the same process to replace the cartridge for the diversion valve above the faucet?
@Nicolas Arevalo: The parts for the shower flow control lever/valve would be different, so it really depends on the specific lever/valve you have installed. Sorry I can’t be more help.
Wait, so the old cartridge needed to be quarter turned to come out, but the new one didn't? Is that because you got the HD version?
@Paul: The quarter turn is to loosen / release the old cartridge, because part of that process actually pulls the cartridge forward a bit to make it easier to remove. Inserting the new replacement cartridge is different-it is lubricated and inserts easily and you don’t turn it a quarter turn. Same for HD and for non-HD versions. Hope that helps.
What happens if the cartridge breaks inside as you are pulling it out?
Not good! Try needle nose pliers to get the cartridge and pieces out.
Do you like your eva? I ordered one and not sure if I made the right decision.
@T C: we like it in the chrome finish better than the brushed nickel - easier to keep clean.
@@LongologoProductions that’s good, is it reliable
@@Tendertroll1 : yes. We haven’t had any issues with it. Just replacing the cartridge every few years if the handle gets a little harder to turn. Honestly once it’s installed you kind of just stop thinking about it and it just becomes part of the bathroom….
Nice🎉
I cant get the Allen bolt out
First, make sure you have any gunk cleaned out of the bolt head so your Allen wrench can fully grip the bolt head. Second, make sure you have a long enough arm on the Allen wrench to give some leverage. Third, consider putting a drop of liquid wrench behind the bolt head and let it soak in for 30 minutes or so and then try to remove it. I hope that helps.