Wait why are you doing it like this? That’s wrong. So very wrong. We don’t use inches in 10-20. And 10 refers to 10% and 20 to 20percent of certain measurements. No measurement is static. It’s always a percentage of the total. Nasion to inion measurement (usually 34-36cm not always) is divided into segments of 20% of itself after moving 10% up from nasion and inion. This is just immensely wrong. I would be more than happy to provide proper instruction for no reason other than to insure the incorrect way is no longer spread
It doesn't matter if we are using inches centimeters or a 3rd made up measurement since as you said it's the percentage the matters. The video is correctly simplifying it to help anyone understand the principal so they do not mess up the percentages, which is also confirmed by using a stretching tape that preserves the percentages between the marks along the tape. Hats off for the excellent silent simple video.
It's elastic, marked at 10 and 20 percent of the elastic, and then stretched. So long as it stretches evenly you still end up with 10 and 20 percent. Cm vs in is irrelevant. It's similar in concept to the brainnet. Not perfect, but not awful either.
I’m confused as to why you’re not explaining anything? The irritating foam noise is not helping 😆. And why elastic? I do like the markings but not sure why it’s on elastic?
Excellent. The video is so well done it really does not need words. It can be useful to speakers of any language. For placing the leads on myself, I tied knots instead of black marks (properly placed while elastic is relaxed) and could then feel the knots to locate positions.
Simple and accurate, for those who use metric (I do), in the video using the inches is not a problem because the idea is to mark the 10% 20% points along the tape, and since the tape stretches, you can use it on different lengths while the percentages are preserved and valid. Great video, thanks!
I have to practice measurements and applications, what do you recommend I use? I'd like to know where you bought those little sticky orange circles or did you make them? This is a great tutorial, thanks. Any advice is appreciated. Someone told me to buy a glass head, this way I could practice over and over and not have to worry about markings because I could simply wipe it away. What are your thoughts?
+TheDreamhouse2010 , I would go for a foam head; it only costs about $10 in a store like Hobby Lobby, or JoAnn, or Michaels. I would also get stickers in a store like Walmart. Overall, stay on the inexpensive side. Once you become a master, then perhaps get a glass head for demonstrations. You can get a second foam head where you can place the stickers directly onto it, and compare it with the head that has the markings and stickers; the most important is the ability to place an electrode without having the markings. It takes practice. Hope this helps a little.
I like the elastic part of measuring but how do you measure on a real head? By that I mean how do you place the markings with the pen while holding on to each end of the elastic. I would need a third hand :-)
Yohan Delton place the marks using a meter, after measuring the head, or just before if you are using an elastic tape like the video shows. The point is to be accurate with the 10 20 percentages.
iam going to do investigations about the aplications of EEG On Meditation is very important, I meked a book BASES CIENTIFICAS DE LA MEDITACION AND YOGA. IAM NEUROLOGY IN REHABILITATION.
Is that the correct marking for the Inion? I thought it should be further up, right on the bump on the back of the head. Can you help me understand please!
hi sir, thanks for your sharing. but i have a question, why are this electrodes placed in this way? are there any relation with the particular cortical region of brain? or in some experiment there might be certain waves which are very obvious compared with the others, and they are only situated at certain position, does that related to the position of cortical regions too?
Goh Vh The placements have direct relations to the cortical regions of the brain; the electrode placements are determined by an assessment of the client's needs. Every region will capture the major brain waves and tell a story. Hope this helps a little. Cheers.
Psic. Sleiman El Achkar Michel I had the same question first,, but the silence helps you think alone and remember better, at least that's how it was for me
This is a great video. Can you provide more guidance on locating the nasion and inion? I understand that the former is between the forehead and the nose and the later is the lowest point of the skull. Can you provide more insight?
Jessica Köhli you can use anything as long as you maintain the correct percentages between marks, the elastic tape used in the video is great because you can use it on different lengths as shown in the video while preserving the percentage. This is one of if not the best video for 10 20 placement
Thank you so much for such a well thought out and organized video on electrode placement! It was very helpful. What kind of elastic did you use? Is it sewing elastic or plastic of some sort?
Hi, Yohan. Your tutorial was very helpful! I would like to know about some good book that has all the basic theory of the 10-20 EEG Electrode Placement and other systems of EEG Electrodes too. It would be great if you can give some information; I am working in this topic for my thesis. Thanks a lot. Greetings from Peru!
+Rolando Rodriguez, A book that I like is "the symphony of the brain", this book will give you an overall view of the field. Very good book. Other great books are "Handbook of Neurofeedback: Dynamics and Clinical Applications" and "The Open-Focus Brain: Harnessing the Power of Attention to Heal Mind and Body". Hope this helps. Best wishes with your thesis.
This is by far the WORST method of the 10-20 system placement that I have ever seen. It is not close to being accurate. The 10-20 system is based on the metric system, not inches. Unbelievable.
C.E. Ford metric, imperial, or whatever measurement you use does not affect percentages, 10 20 refers to 10% 20% which are percentages, the whole point of the stretching tape is to preserve the percentage between the marks. This video is actually so simple and very accurate...
HÜSNİYE HOCADAN GELENLER +1
The video would be more helpful if you were explaining what you were doing during it...
Agreed. However, I am going for an international audience.
This video is so relaxing it boosted my alpha waves significantly.
lol EEG jokes:)
Anthony (unintentional/educational asmr)
Wait why are you doing it like this? That’s wrong. So very wrong. We don’t use inches in 10-20. And 10 refers to 10% and 20 to 20percent of certain measurements. No measurement is static. It’s always a percentage of the total. Nasion to inion measurement (usually 34-36cm not always) is divided into segments of 20% of itself after moving 10% up from nasion and inion. This is just immensely wrong. I would be more than happy to provide proper instruction for no reason other than to insure the incorrect way is no longer spread
Thank you for pointing out that Dr. Delton is doing this wrong. Correct procedure comments like yours help prevent the spread of ignorance.
It doesn't matter if we are using inches centimeters or a 3rd made up measurement since as you said it's the percentage the matters. The video is correctly simplifying it to help anyone understand the principal so they do not mess up the percentages, which is also confirmed by using a stretching tape that preserves the percentages between the marks along the tape. Hats off for the excellent silent simple video.
Eric Mcbrearty watching the whole video can help you better decide whether the method is valid or not
It's elastic, marked at 10 and 20 percent of the elastic, and then stretched. So long as it stretches evenly you still end up with 10 and 20 percent. Cm vs in is irrelevant. It's similar in concept to the brainnet. Not perfect, but not awful either.
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Electrode placement for mime artists.
Lol
I’m confused as to why you’re not explaining anything? The irritating foam noise is not helping 😆. And why elastic? I do like the markings but not sure why it’s on elastic?
Very annoying the head noise.
Excellent. The video is so well done it really does not need words. It can be useful to speakers of any language. For placing the leads on myself, I tied knots instead of black marks (properly placed while elastic is relaxed) and could then feel the knots to locate positions.
Bravo! Clear and easy to understand, and not one word spoken.
Thank you for doing this.
Frank Barnes I appreciate your kindness in your assessment of my work.
but ye Hindi me bhi video banaiye . to sab dekh kar Sikh kase
EEG is complex enough, why are you making people decode it from a sign language -_-
It's the universal language ;)
why is this lowkey satisfying lol
Thank You Very much for creating such a clear,concise and informative video.
Thank you for doing this.
Simple and accurate, for those who use metric (I do), in the video using the inches is not a problem because the idea is to mark the 10% 20% points along the tape, and since the tape stretches, you can use it on different lengths while the percentages are preserved and valid. Great video, thanks!
Amazing video. Thank you!
This video is genius.
nice explanation
2 comments.
1 This was giving me ASMR tingles.
2 This is the best placement video I've seen.
Thank you so much for your time and effort put into making this video! This is a wonderful learning tool!
very nice video ;thank you for infos
That’s great and very helpful thank you
I have to practice measurements and applications, what do you recommend I use? I'd like to know where you bought those little sticky orange circles or did you make them? This is a great tutorial, thanks. Any advice is appreciated. Someone told me to buy a glass head, this way I could practice over and over and not have to worry about markings because I could simply wipe it away. What are your thoughts?
+TheDreamhouse2010 , I would go for a foam head; it only costs about $10 in a store like Hobby Lobby, or JoAnn, or Michaels. I would also get stickers in a store like Walmart. Overall, stay on the inexpensive side. Once you become a master, then perhaps get a glass head for demonstrations. You can get a second foam head where you can place the stickers directly onto it, and compare it with the head that has the markings and stickers; the most important is the ability to place an electrode without having the markings. It takes practice. Hope this helps a little.
Yohan Delton
Yes it helps a lot. Thanks so much for the reply.
buen video, muy explicativo y facil
I like the elastic part of measuring but how do you measure on a real head? By that I mean how do you place the markings with the pen while holding on to each end of the elastic. I would need a third hand :-)
+Anne Marie Johansen, great question. You will need to practice with a second person, one holding the elastics, the other marking the foam head.
+Yohan Delton, once you have mastered the foam head, you will be able to place the electrodes on the real head without much difficulty.
You can use the same elastic on a real head; just don't use the sharpie on the head ;)
Yohan Delton place the marks using a meter, after measuring the head, or just before if you are using an elastic tape like the video shows. The point is to be accurate with the 10 20 percentages.
no podias ir mas lento??? :/
Puedes cambiar la velocidad del video.
What about 16 electrodes variant? If I don't have Fz, Cz and Pz-electrodes (sagittal line).
iam going to do investigations about the aplications of EEG On Meditation is very important, I meked a book BASES CIENTIFICAS DE LA MEDITACION AND YOGA. IAM NEUROLOGY IN REHABILITATION.
The best part about this is that there's no talking. So u can get the most minimal learning experience as possible. Fantastic.
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Is that the correct marking for the Inion? I thought it should be further up, right on the bump on the back of the head. Can you help me understand please!
Bianca Holt it is as shown in the video, very accurate
Video maravilhoso, estava quase ficando doida tentando aprender colocar esses pontos, parabéns 👏👏👏👏
thanxxx
hi sir, thanks for your sharing. but i have a question, why are this electrodes placed in this way? are there any relation with the particular cortical region of brain? or in some experiment there might be certain waves which are very obvious compared with the others, and they are only situated at certain position, does that related to the position of cortical regions too?
Goh Vh The placements have direct relations to the cortical regions of the brain; the electrode placements are determined by an assessment of the client's needs. Every region will capture the major brain waves and tell a story. Hope this helps a little.
Cheers.
Thanks, great video, but why don't you talk? It´s weird.
Psic. Sleiman El Achkar Michel I had the same question first,, but the silence helps you think alone and remember better, at least that's how it was for me
This is a great video. Can you provide more guidance on locating the nasion and inion? I understand that the former is between the forehead and the nose and the later is the lowest point of the skull. Can you provide more insight?
inion is usually right on top f the little bmp on the back of your head. not all heads have one, but all have a noticeable divot or something like it
buffy lee I think your mistaken, unless I misunderstood your statement. The inion mark is accurate in the video
It really helped! Thanks a lot. But I have a question could I use a normal centimeter from 25cm and still do the marks?? Thank again!
Please dont go by this video. It is so incorrect
Jessica Köhli you can use anything as long as you maintain the correct percentages between marks, the elastic tape used in the video is great because you can use it on different lengths as shown in the video while preserving the percentage. This is one of if not the best video for 10 20 placement
Thank you so much for such a well thought out and organized video on electrode placement! It was very helpful. What kind of elastic did you use? Is it sewing elastic or plastic of some sort?
+ROBIN BROWN It is simply sewing elastic.
Great .. thank you..
Great .. thank you..
where are CB1 & CB2?
Not part of the 10-20 system :)
Hi, Yohan. Your tutorial was very helpful! I would like to know about some good book that has all the basic theory of the 10-20 EEG Electrode Placement and other systems of EEG Electrodes too. It would be great if you can give some information; I am working in this topic for my thesis. Thanks a lot. Greetings from Peru!
+Rolando Rodriguez, A book that I like is "the symphony of the brain", this book will give you an overall view of the field. Very good book. Other great books are "Handbook of Neurofeedback: Dynamics and Clinical Applications" and "The Open-Focus Brain: Harnessing the Power of Attention to Heal Mind and Body". Hope this helps. Best wishes with your thesis.
+Yohan Delton (Young Social Innovators) Thanks a lot! I'll find these books.
Best book you can find for this is the practical guide of clinical neurophysiology EEG by Thoru Yamada and Elizabeth meng
This is by far the WORST method of the 10-20 system placement that I have ever seen. It is not close to being accurate. The 10-20 system is based on the metric system, not inches. Unbelievable.
C.E. Ford metric, imperial, or whatever measurement you use does not affect percentages, 10 20 refers to 10% 20% which are percentages, the whole point of the stretching tape is to preserve the percentage between the marks. This video is actually so simple and very accurate...