I have taught for over 20 years and have played keyboard since I was 9 years old. Since I first learned the circle of 5th's, I found it to be a very very important tool of musical knowledge. This man explains this extremely well. When I started teaching at just 16, and it was a student of some simple knowledge musically, I always taught them about the circle of 5th's. Charts consolidate so much information in a nutshell. It is an easy way to understand about chords and how they can be used easily and effectively without too much intense musical knowledge. It is so logical and with a little of chord and note theory , the circle is one of your best friends in understanding why chords work well. To me, it is an essential tool in learning music theory. It is really a short-cut. So, even though it hasn't always been aware to long previous composers and musical people, I feel this is a must to know and understand , how it functions, and your easy way into writing and creating your own music, and style of music. This circle and a full scale chart will truly be of the greatest help in any musical desire, Greg is excellent, but it is somewhat fast and it would help you out if you studied your scales a little first and got familiar with your note to note relationships.Thank you Greg. We would be great partners in music.This is an awesome video.. Joan
Hopefully this will save some viewers some time. 1: Major Keys 3:22 2: Enharmonic Keys 6:12 3: Sharps and Flats 8:09 4: Most Similar Keys 10:44 (Adjacent) 5: Most Different Keys 12:03 (180 degrees away) 6: Relative Minor Key 14:40 (90 degrees away) 7: Major and Minor Chords 14:40 (Fill in adjacent 5ths...) 8: Primary Chords 17:58 (Plot I II III... nearby... meh) 9: Secondary Chords 19:29 (Keys in the key of the dominant... meh) 10: Succeeding Chords 21:55 (P4ths sequence by dominant 7 relationships... meh)
We get the idea how it works in a nut shell now, very useful to see the point straight away, I always wanted to hear an explanation like this from a teacher. Big thanks for the video.
Excellent work Greg. The only thing I would add to help aspiring musicians who may not know how to determine the notes in a chord would be to count in half steps using the 4 and 3 rule for major chords and 3 and 4 rule for minor triad chords from the root of the chord (at zero), so in a C major chord, you would count 4 half steps to an E and then 3 half steps to a G. For C minor chord you would count 3 half steps then 4 half steps and so on. Then a C7 major chord would be another 4 half steps above G and a C7 dominant chord would be 3 steps above G. Just my opinion. Cheers
Good theoretical explanation. No need for keyboards to illustrate the inner working of 5ths. A person can do that later on using their instrument. People looking at youtube instructional videos can often find jam packed information in 20 or 30 minutes. Not all youtubers have tons of free time to hold someone's hand. This here video gets to the point fast and is concise. Thumbs up!
This is a more in depth look at how to find the notes of a song using the Circle of 5ths but for a beginner it may be too much. It started out like trying to walk but ended up doing Olympic track sprints
i am myself a starter and this guy made it very complicated, circle of 5th is very easy if explained properly with tricks. I have just started music theory 12 days ago and i know circle of 5th very well
The logic behind the layout is start at C at 12 o'clock position, count 7 half steps and that will give you the next point. Keep going with 7 half steps between each point, continuing clockwise and you will arrive back at C at the 12 o'clock position. Memorizing it doesn't give you the foundation as to why is is laid out like it is.
I think the best way to teach this circle of fifths is not to give to much info at once it should be broken down in small steps while at the same time playing along with an instrument doing it this way just leaves you feeling lost and confused
The logic behind the layout is start at C at 12 o'clock position, count 7 half steps and that will give you the next point. Keep going with 7 half steps between each point, continuing clockwise and you will arrive back at C at the 12 o'clock position. Memorizing it doesn't give you the foundation as to why is is laid out like it is.
Excuse me for being a troll but if you went up an octave you would get double the vibration but if you went down you won't get half you get two halves less the vibration you started out with. E3→E4 =double E3→E2 =double; not half. Half would be around G# or A
at 11:30 you say adjacent keys on the circle are the most similar, and either adjacent key has just one sharp or flat - but is that statement from memory only or does the circle show you somehow which flats or sharps adjacent keys have?
I think something important is missing. It is not clear from this why going up 5 notes is important. Why not 3, 4, 6? Well maybe it will eventually become clear. Why would I want to find the most opposite key? I eventually gleaned that "fifth" isn't 1/5th (fifth) but: first, second, third, fourth, fifth -- an ordinal position, not a cardinal value. It is clear that the frequency spacing isn't consistent, some letters are spaced by a whole note and some by 1/2 note (equal to 1/12th frequency increment where each increment of frequency is multiplied by the 12th root of 2.
The logic behind the layout is start at C at 12 o'clock position, count 7 half steps and that will give you the next point. Keep going with 7 half steps between each point, continuing clockwise and you will arrive back at C at the 12 o'clock position. Memorizing it doesn't give you the foundation as to why is is laid out like it is.
Cb, B#, E#, Fb do not physically exist. Trying to add those in there is like saying I can make a left on a red light because it's more convenient. Nevermind the confusion and fender benders that will be caused from breaking the rule.
@@Archangel_Michaels simplicity sounds like a refusal to accept the rule as written. Changing the rules of operation creates confusion for the beginners.
no better way to confuse and frustrate someone with musical talent/ desire than try to cram them into a box full of techno-jargon and tell them they can't play till they understand it. Lots of greats became greats without understanding this first.
So what, take it for what it is, see if you can make something of this. Just because there is a lot to unpack doesn't mean it is bad. I found this to be one of the most complete videos about C of 5ths. Too bad you were confused.
It does not introduce the circle in the clock form that is so valuable telling us every diatonic key. The video seems to imply that all progressions are from the Dominant 5 assuming that the viewer actually knows what that is. In fact progressions can come in any sequence within the diatonic scale plus they can switch out to relative dominants and when one moves to chromatic or the 6th diminished scale they can go anywhere so long as you remember where home is i.e. the Head of the song. As a demonstration of how the Circle can be formed useful perhaps for a beginner not good at all. I hoped to find something I may have missed not so. C'est la vie!
The Circle of 5ths actually shows every single thing in music...all musical concepts, theory, relativity, chord progressions, keys, scales, all modes and much more. However, you must need to know what it is that you are perceiving otherwise it remains an unknown confusing issue. Learning about the musical concepts and all basics will help learn how to use the Circle in the best ways to reveal all of the other musical data. I have even created a MODE CODE simply by perceiving how and where you can find every single mode in a very easy way rather than having to learn it by altering a scale . It's not where you think it is. People will tell you that modes are just scales but they fail to tell you WHAT chords they are and how and where they can be found. This is a profound concept that you can only comprehend with in depth studies of the modes and their usages. Once you discover the way to find them, it will all become quite obvious and easy to access. Music doesn't have to be difficult to learn but you must learn the language and formulas of how music is put together and from there you will find the journey much easier.
it gets confusing why you draw out a circle of 5ths, then at 9:00, add sharps to each one, why? also, why does the circle of 5ths suddenly become the circle of 4ths when you move counterclockwise through the flats? weird. its this kind of mystery crap that munged up my understanding of this originally when i was in high school band.
Geri Lehnardt .. exactly i never heard about B# 🙄🙄 .. B & E has no sharps .. C C# D D# E F F# G G# A Bb B this is systematic chords circle .. but how did B# come i can't understand
@@acoustica7995 Hi, thank you for your comment. It's not common for there to be a B sharp. But there is an exception. If you are in the key of C sharp Major, it includes a note that is commonly referred to as C. But theoretically, you can't call it a C because there is no C in the key of C sharp. However, there is a B sharp that exist within the key of C sharp. It doesn't really matter what you call it as long as you understand the concept. I hope this helps.
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“The Key of F has 1 flat.” Key of F F G A A# C D E or F G A Bb C D E or F G Bbb A# C D E or F F## A Bb Dbb C## Fb or......this can go on forever. I play guitar so I’ve always thought in terms of sharps bc I tend to bend notes “up” or sharp more often than not. A A# B C C# D D# E F F# G G# This is the musical alphabet I’ve used for 30 years. I do understand where I use sharps, a corresponding flat can be used (A#/Bb, F#/Gb, etc). When I first constructed this a few weeks ago, I used all sharps and was told I’m incorrect. Why am I incorrect I asked?? I was told the “correct” answer is using Bb instead of A#. My reply was that is subjective...we are both correct in reality as we are describing the identical pitched note. I was then told this model has stood for 4 centuries and nobody has ever discredited it so I should just memorize it and accept. Like the Earth being the center of the universe which was accepted for 1500 years until somebody came along and challenged its validity. What I found is simply that this cute diagram naming sharps/flats is subjective and only valid if one specific method of naming the flats/sharps is used. If the correct but alternative method is used, as I showed above, it invalidates this diagram immediately revealing its flaw and subjectivity...unfortunately. Thank You for video, you are a fabulous musician. The issue is only with this diagram and not you as a Teacher my friend.
Traditionally, each note letter is represented only once in a scale. Without some boundaries, there would be an endless number of unusable theoretical keys, like the key of C##.
KlevonOfJesup Thank You very much for your explanation and it certainly makes sense. Although I find music notation as a beginner (and I’m at advanced age) pretty much impossible to learn fluently at any level, I do appreciate your reply my friend.
@@JS45678 The theoretical keys are endless, aren't they? I think the major keys are considered as from 1 to 7 sharps and then 1 to 7 flats plus the key of C, which has 0 sharps or flats. So that's fifteen, right? Double sharps or flats would only be notated if absolutely required.
Starting 9:30 th-cam.com/video/lSekLFuyNZA/w-d-xo.html the bit about flats is incorrect. You said B-flat has only one flat but it actually is F that has one flat only. The rest that follows, up to E-flat, the number of flats is also incorrect. The key with 7 flats is at B, which is C flat major (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C-flat_major).
That's not what he said. He said that if there's only one flat in a key, it will be Bb (the note, not the key). Bb is followed sequentially through the subsequent flat keys by adding Eb, Ab, Db, Gb, Cb, and Fb - which is what he demonstrated. He wasn't incorrect; you misheard him.
Is it not when youre at B...... goes this way......C D E F....... so B to F should be and not Gb or F#?....... i dont understand.....please enlighten me guys
I believe you made a mistake on the sharp/flat numbering. F is the starting place, but is 1 flat, C is zero sharps, and G#/Fb is the 6 flats, 6 sharps AT 6:00.
I think you're confusing the order of keys in 5ths (clockwise from C G D A ...) and 4ths (counter-clockwise from C F Bb Eb ...) with the number/order of sharps and flats. Yes, F major has one flat and C major doesn't have any, but what he was demonstrating by adding a sharp to F and a second sharp to C was how, by moving clockwise from F, the first sharp in a key signature will always be F#, C# will be the second, G# the next, and so on. Conversely, by moving counter-clockwise from Bb (next to F), the first flat in a key signature will always be Bb, the second will be Eb, then Ab, and so on. Also, the 6 sharps and 6 flats that appear at 6:00 on the wheel are F# and Gb, not G#/Fb as you wrote.
at 10:20, showing on a keyboard how the circle of 5ths shows you your sharps and flats for a key, i.e. flats - BEADGCE/Fb and HOW the diagram actually relates to something physical (a keyboard) would help idiots like me TREMENDOUSLY. or those who follow.
My son ,who is a phenominal musician,was the first to show me the circle of fifths.I ,unlike him,have to work really hard to suck at music,but as he was showing it to me I caught a mistake where he called something a flat that should have been something else sharp.He argued with me and asked me how I could correct him the first time I ever saw it?After checking he realized I was right.It was because I immediately saw and understood the pattern of it.I would rather just be able to play like him than understand the technicalities with no real musical talent.
sounds like your natural intuition understood the relationships of musical notation, going deeper than just the theory trying to explain it. yeah, the point of music is to express the MUSES. what moves you, and the technical part should just facilitate that. all the egg-headed nerdiness technojargon they put so much importance on kind of killed it for me, i'm just now re-orienting myself to the priorities of how theory should support musicianship, not dominate it. anyway thanks for your comment.
Takes someone with some music background or is a naturally talented musician to understand this circle of fifths ... I believe it's very useful when one understands it ... But yours truly was lost 😅 at the pace he was going. But if I pause n replay several times ... Maybe it'll eventually make a lot of sense.
Very confusing. I believe that it requires some knowledge beforehand in order to understand how your teaching the Circle of 5ths. And you go over things that make me want to say "wait a second I have a question" needing to clarify something you said. On to the next vid.
@@whatabouttheearth Somehow I feel that you've said something so profound that it just went over my head. Over the next 20 years of my life I will devote my understanding of the Circle of 5ths so I can come back to this comment and tell you, "ALRIIIIGHT"!
Hi Bruce, some instructors actually do teach the circle of 5ths in the way you're describing. I'll have to say that it's not wrong. Fourths and fifths are just inversions of one another. Good point.
@@LearnColorPiano I am currently struggling with this as different videos teach it differently with out saying why. Even you said counterclock wise is fourths but your website says its fifths. From what I have just learned in conversations with my brother it all depends on pitch. Something nobody seems to mention. Tell me if this is right. Its called the circle of fifths (no fourths) so clockwise is ascending in pitch and counterclockwise is descending in pitch. Which = fifths in both directions. If we reverse the pitch so clockwise is descending and counterclockwise is ascending then we have a circle of fourths.
The logic behind the layout is start at C at 12 o'clock position, count 7 half steps and that will give you the next point. Keep going with 7 half steps between each point, continuing clockwise and you will arrive back at C at the 12 o'clock position. Memorizing it doesn't give you the foundation as to why is is laid out like it is.
🤔 or maybe...Its a construct of our perception and the patern recognition aspect of our brains because we are on a planet with one sun and one moon that has an eliptical orbit shifting from Aphelion to Perihelion by way of equinoxes that are aligned with the equator that is by way of the Tropic of Cancer that correlates to Perihelion and the Tropic of Capricorn which correlates to Aphelion and that is why it is hotter in the northern hemisphere when earth is farthest from the sun and maybe why earthlings have dual symmetries which is also why the moon goes from D-C crescents on Neap Tides and Full and Dark Moons on Spring Tides because dual Syzygy had to start with two and lead to 4 and 8 and 12 like the 3 cross of the Zodiac on Cavalry because the two fundamental forces of the nature of energy and existance are repulsion and attraction? And maybe UFOs are government
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the way his explained is quit complex and very hard to understand, the best way and easy to know notes is , 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 C D E F G A B the ones 1 4 and 5 are Major chords , 2 3 6 are Minor Chord and the 7 is Diminished and go on and on and on , for instance try to play C F G and see what is look you start to get an idea in this way if you want to know the relative minor just make account 2 3 6 are mine Dm Em and Am!
The logic behind the layout is start at C at 12 o'clock position, count 7 half steps and that will give you the next point. Keep going with 7 half steps between each point, continuing clockwise and you will arrive back at C at the 12 o'clock position. Memorizing it doesn't give you the foundation as to why is is laid out like it is.
I've watched many videos about the circle of fifths. Happy to say that I fully understand it, finally. That being said, this guy is not a good teacher. His intentions are good but his execution is poor. If you're a total beginner, I'd avoid this video if you want to learn about the circle of fifths.
Talking about fifths (as if there is only one type) without addressing diminished fifths and perfect fifths and augmented fifths is incomplete and misleading.
It's true that there are more than just one type of 5th. But I didn't cover those because the circle of 5ths doesn't represent diminished and augmented intervals when your following it sequentially. I try to keep it simple when covering fundamentals. Thank you for your comment.
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I am sure this video will be useful to serious musicians but if you want to learn music for fun like me you will find it dry and boring. Couldnt continue watching it.
Hi Ed, Thank you for your comment. I think that music theory turns a lot of music students off in general. I know that's true with a younger me. I'm sorry you didn't like the video and I'll strive to make things more interesting and fun.
For anyone who has self taught music theory….this is a great summary and clarification of the Circle of Fourths and Fifths. Thank you Greg!
I have taught for over 20 years and have played keyboard since I was 9 years old. Since I first learned the circle of 5th's, I found it to be a very very important tool of musical knowledge. This man explains this extremely well. When I started teaching at just 16, and it was a student of some simple knowledge musically, I always taught them about the circle of 5th's. Charts consolidate so much information in a nutshell. It is an easy way to understand about chords and how they can be used easily and effectively without too much intense musical knowledge. It is so logical and with a little of chord and note theory , the circle is one of your best friends in understanding why chords work well. To me, it is an essential tool in learning music theory. It is really a short-cut. So, even though it hasn't always been aware to long previous composers and musical people, I feel this is a must to know and understand , how it functions, and your easy way into writing and creating your own music, and style of music. This circle and a full scale chart will truly be of the greatest help in any musical desire, Greg is excellent, but it is somewhat fast and it would help you out if you studied your scales a little first and got familiar with your note to note relationships.Thank you Greg. We would be great partners in music.This is an awesome video.. Joan
The best most complete tutorial in my search ..thank you🙏
Hopefully this will save some viewers some time.
1: Major Keys 3:22
2: Enharmonic Keys 6:12
3: Sharps and Flats 8:09
4: Most Similar Keys 10:44 (Adjacent)
5: Most Different Keys 12:03 (180 degrees away)
6: Relative Minor Key 14:40 (90 degrees away)
7: Major and Minor Chords 14:40 (Fill in adjacent 5ths...)
8: Primary Chords 17:58 (Plot I II III... nearby... meh)
9: Secondary Chords 19:29 (Keys in the key of the dominant... meh)
10: Succeeding Chords 21:55 (P4ths sequence by dominant 7 relationships... meh)
Scott Jodoin - thanks for taking the time to do this!
Scott Jodoin - Thanks, but I can't bear listening to this dude for another minute. Lol
Thank you!!
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@@alexsmith2763 Thank you Alex for the picture of the bejeweled lizard.
We get the idea how it works in a nut shell now, very useful to see the point straight away, I always wanted to hear an explanation like this from a teacher. Big thanks for the video.
Excellent work Greg. The only thing I would add to help aspiring musicians who may not know how to determine the notes in a chord would be to count in half steps using the 4 and 3 rule for major chords and 3 and 4 rule for minor triad chords from the root of the chord (at zero), so in a C major chord, you would count 4 half steps to an E and then 3 half steps to a G. For C minor chord you would count 3 half steps then 4 half steps and so on. Then a C7 major chord would be another 4 half steps above G and a C7 dominant chord would be 3 steps above G. Just my opinion. Cheers
Good theoretical explanation. No need for keyboards to illustrate the inner working of 5ths. A person can do that later on using their instrument. People looking at youtube instructional videos can often find jam packed information in 20 or 30 minutes. Not all youtubers have tons of free time to hold someone's hand. This here video gets to the point fast and is concise. Thumbs up!
So helpful. #9 and 10 are beyond my pay grade but you really taught me something new with #8 and the 90 degrees to find minor. Thx!
This is a more in depth look at how to find the notes of a song using the Circle of 5ths but for a beginner it may be too much. It started out like trying to walk but ended up doing Olympic track sprints
i am myself a starter and this guy made it very complicated, circle of 5th is very easy if explained properly with tricks. I have just started music theory 12 days ago and i know circle of 5th very well
theoretical AND practical application / demonstration.
How everyone doing from covid 19, this is such a good time improving my piano techinic!
I learned a number of new things about this circle. Thank you!
Hi j swad, Thank you for your comment. I'm happy to be helpful.
Just Superb!!!! Sir
One of the best videos on the circle of 5th I've watched.
Thank you for your kind comments Simon.
it would be great to use shots of you playing a piano keyboard to illustrate your points - show AND tell.
The logic behind the layout is start at C at 12 o'clock position, count 7 half steps and that will give you the next point. Keep going with 7 half steps between each point, continuing clockwise and you will arrive back at C at the 12 o'clock position. Memorizing it doesn't give you the foundation as to why is is laid out like it is.
Gracie Terzian sets this out much simpler and, I think, explains it very well.
I think the best way to teach this circle of fifths is not to give to much info at once it should be broken down in small steps while at the same time playing along with an instrument doing it this way just leaves you feeling lost and confused
Apologies, my response was rude.
The logic behind the layout is start at C at 12 o'clock position, count 7 half steps and that will give you the next point. Keep going with 7 half steps between each point, continuing clockwise and you will arrive back at C at the 12 o'clock position. Memorizing it doesn't give you the foundation as to why is is laid out like it is.
I think there's a tendency to give newbies too much information. I agree that a newbie should take smaller bites.
Points 8 and 9 were useful for me.
That was very informative. Thanks.
Hi Greg, thank you for watching and your comment.
Thank you so much for this... It’s free to .. very generous... great explanation!
Free too
Super video
Really nice explanation, thank you!
Hi Shawn, thank you for you kind comment.
for example, demonstrating on a piano how the key of B Major with 4 sharps equates to the key of F#/Gb, to continue the circle of 5ths.
Amazing music theory .. the first time in my life i understand music .. scale ..
Very well explained, thank you!
Excuse me for being a troll but if you went up an octave you would get double the vibration but if you went down you won't get half you get two halves less the vibration you started out with. E3→E4 =double
E3→E2 =double; not half.
Half would be around G# or A
at 11:30 you say adjacent keys on the circle are the most similar, and either adjacent key has just one sharp or flat - but is that statement from memory only or does the circle show you somehow which flats or sharps adjacent keys have?
I think something important is missing. It is not clear from this why going up 5 notes is important. Why not 3, 4, 6? Well maybe it will eventually become clear. Why would I want to find the most opposite key? I eventually gleaned that "fifth" isn't 1/5th (fifth) but: first, second, third, fourth, fifth -- an ordinal position, not a cardinal value. It is clear that the frequency spacing isn't consistent, some letters are spaced by a whole note and some by 1/2 note (equal to 1/12th frequency increment where each increment of frequency is multiplied by the 12th root of 2.
again, demonstrating on piano why the sharps continue around the top of the circle at 8:40 would be helpful
The logic behind the layout is start at C at 12 o'clock position, count 7 half steps and that will give you the next point. Keep going with 7 half steps between each point, continuing clockwise and you will arrive back at C at the 12 o'clock position. Memorizing it doesn't give you the foundation as to why is is laid out like it is.
Bravo..... teaching as a professor
Hi, thank you for your kind comment.
Cb, B#, E#, Fb do not physically exist. Trying to add those in there is like saying I can make a left on a red light because it's more convenient. Nevermind the confusion and fender benders that will be caused from breaking the rule.
They exist thoeretically ... we use those terms for the sake of simplicity
@@Archangel_Michaels simplicity sounds like a refusal to accept the rule as written. Changing the rules of operation creates confusion for the beginners.
This is the best explanation!
Thank you for your kind comment Julie.
Great job thanks
This video was helpful. Thank you.
Hi Jonathan, your welcome and thank you for watching. I have some videos coming.
Instead of counting 5 diatonic, to get the circle, you should count 7 semitones chromatic, because this way you get the sharps and flats.
A perfect fifth is 7 semitones distance.
Man, your explanations are so helpful. My kid is playing heavy metal/ progressive music. see Ethan Mckenna-band camp on youtube esp. improvisation#1
no better way to confuse and frustrate someone with musical talent/ desire than try to cram them into a box full of techno-jargon and tell them they can't play till they understand it. Lots of greats became greats without understanding this first.
So what, take it for what it is, see if you can make something of this.
Just because there is a lot to unpack doesn't mean it is bad.
I found this to be one of the most complete videos about C of 5ths.
Too bad you were confused.
There are better explanations of the circle of 5ths out there. Check out Scott Paul Johnson
Simple and effective way to teach circle of 5th
really? it's bubbling
It does not introduce the circle in the clock form that is so valuable telling us every diatonic key. The video seems to imply that all progressions are from the Dominant 5 assuming that the viewer actually knows what that is. In fact progressions can come in any sequence within the diatonic scale plus they can switch out to relative dominants and when one moves to chromatic or the 6th diminished scale they can go anywhere so long as you remember where home is i.e. the Head of the song. As a demonstration of how the Circle can be formed useful perhaps for a beginner not good at all. I hoped to find something I may have missed not so. C'est la vie!
The Circle of 5ths actually shows every single thing in music...all musical concepts, theory, relativity, chord progressions, keys, scales, all modes and much more. However, you must need to know what it is that you are perceiving otherwise it remains an unknown confusing issue. Learning about the musical concepts and all basics will help learn how to use the Circle in the best ways to reveal all of the other musical data. I have even created a MODE CODE simply by perceiving how and where you can find every single mode in a very easy way rather than having to learn it by altering a scale . It's not where you think it is. People will tell you that modes are just scales but they fail to tell you WHAT chords they are and how and where they can be found. This is a profound concept that you can only comprehend with in depth studies of the modes and their usages. Once you discover the way to find them, it will all become quite obvious and easy to access. Music doesn't have to be difficult to learn but you must learn the language and formulas of how music is put together and from there you will find the journey much easier.
Modes are not scales.
check out Rick Beatos music theory videos
Technically speaking its more of a spiral as it goes up and down the octaves.
Good point..
it gets confusing why you draw out a circle of 5ths, then at 9:00, add sharps to each one, why? also, why does the circle of 5ths suddenly become the circle of 4ths when you move counterclockwise through the flats? weird. its this kind of mystery crap that munged up my understanding of this originally when i was in high school band.
Geri Lehnardt .. exactly i never heard about B# 🙄🙄 .. B & E has no sharps ..
C C# D D# E F F# G G# A Bb B
this is systematic chords circle .. but how did B# come i can't understand
@@acoustica7995 Hi, thank you for your comment. It's not common for there to be a B sharp. But there is an exception. If you are in the key of C sharp Major, it includes a note that is commonly referred to as C. But theoretically, you can't call it a C because there is no C in the key of C sharp. However, there is a B sharp that exist within the key of C sharp. It doesn't really matter what you call it as long as you understand the concept. I hope this helps.
I thought I understood this until you started explaining it .
thank you so much
Thank you for watching the tutorial. I'm glad it helped you.
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Excellent video
Hi Dana, Thank you for your kind comment.
Thank you!
“The Key of F has 1 flat.”
Key of F
F G A A# C D E
or
F G A Bb C D E
or
F G Bbb A# C D E
or
F F## A Bb Dbb C## Fb
or......this can go on forever.
I play guitar so I’ve always thought in terms of sharps bc I tend to bend notes “up” or sharp more often than not.
A A# B C C# D D# E F F# G G#
This is the musical alphabet I’ve used for 30 years. I do understand where I use sharps, a corresponding flat can be used (A#/Bb, F#/Gb, etc).
When I first constructed this a few weeks ago, I used all sharps and was told I’m incorrect. Why am I incorrect I asked?? I was told the “correct” answer is using Bb instead of A#. My reply was that is subjective...we are both correct in reality as we are describing the identical pitched note.
I was then told this model has stood for 4 centuries and nobody has ever discredited it so I should just memorize it and accept.
Like the Earth being the center of the universe which was accepted for 1500 years until somebody came along and challenged its validity.
What I found is simply that this cute diagram naming sharps/flats is subjective and only valid if one specific method of naming the flats/sharps is used.
If the correct but alternative method is used, as I showed above, it invalidates this diagram immediately revealing its flaw and subjectivity...unfortunately.
Thank You for video, you are a fabulous musician. The issue is only with this diagram and not you as a Teacher my friend.
Ok you might not be as dumb as I initially thought you were when I commented on your comment in the last video.
James Lee Thank you my friend, much appreciated. A genius is never appreciated in his own time.
Traditionally, each note letter is represented only once in a scale. Without some boundaries, there would be an endless number of unusable theoretical keys, like the key of C##.
KlevonOfJesup Thank You very much for your explanation and it certainly makes sense.
Although I find music notation as a beginner (and I’m at advanced age) pretty much impossible to learn fluently at any level, I do appreciate your reply my friend.
@@JS45678 The theoretical keys are endless, aren't they? I think the major keys are considered as from 1 to 7 sharps and then 1 to 7 flats plus the key of C, which has 0 sharps or flats. So that's fifteen, right? Double sharps or flats would only be notated if absolutely required.
Wonderful video
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Cats go down alleys eating baloney? That’s great. So’s the video. Well done.
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Thank you for the kind comment.
after oving around the cyrcle for a Thousand times u start to memorize it easyly
Starting 9:30 th-cam.com/video/lSekLFuyNZA/w-d-xo.html the bit about flats is incorrect.
You said B-flat has only one flat but it actually is F that has one flat only. The rest that follows, up to E-flat, the number of flats is also incorrect. The key with 7 flats is at B, which is C flat major (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C-flat_major).
You're right. He needs to re-do the video. Fb Major has B double flat.
That's not what he said. He said that if there's only one flat in a key, it will be Bb (the note, not the key). Bb is followed sequentially through the subsequent flat keys by adding Eb, Ab, Db, Gb, Cb, and Fb - which is what he demonstrated.
He wasn't incorrect; you misheard him.
Is it not when youre at B...... goes this way......C D E F....... so B to F should be and not Gb or F#?....... i dont understand.....please enlighten me guys
I believe you made a mistake on the sharp/flat numbering. F is the starting place, but is 1 flat, C is zero sharps, and G#/Fb is the 6 flats, 6 sharps AT 6:00.
I think you're confusing the order of keys in 5ths (clockwise from C G D A ...) and 4ths (counter-clockwise from C F Bb Eb ...) with the number/order of sharps and flats.
Yes, F major has one flat and C major doesn't have any, but what he was demonstrating by adding a sharp to F and a second sharp to C was how, by moving clockwise from F, the first sharp in a key signature will always be F#, C# will be the second, G# the next, and so on.
Conversely, by moving counter-clockwise from Bb (next to F), the first flat in a key signature will always be Bb, the second will be Eb, then Ab, and so on.
Also, the 6 sharps and 6 flats that appear at 6:00 on the wheel are F# and Gb, not G#/Fb as you wrote.
John D. Avery - Gotcha- that makes sense... thanks!
at 10:20, showing on a keyboard how the circle of 5ths shows you your sharps and flats for a key, i.e. flats - BEADGCE/Fb and HOW the diagram actually relates to something physical (a keyboard) would help idiots like me TREMENDOUSLY. or those who follow.
My son ,who is a phenominal musician,was the first to show me the circle of fifths.I ,unlike him,have to work really hard to suck at music,but as he was showing it to me I caught a mistake where he called something a flat that should have been something else sharp.He argued with me and asked me how I could correct him the first time I ever saw it?After checking he realized I was right.It was because I immediately saw and understood the pattern of it.I would rather just be able to play like him than understand the technicalities with no real musical talent.
sounds like your natural intuition understood the relationships of musical notation, going deeper than just the theory trying to explain it. yeah, the point of music is to express the MUSES. what moves you, and the technical part should just facilitate that. all the egg-headed nerdiness technojargon they put so much importance on kind of killed it for me, i'm just now re-orienting myself to the priorities of how theory should support musicianship, not dominate it. anyway thanks for your comment.
so brother, pick up your instrument and PLAY. me too.
Takes someone with some music background or is a naturally talented musician to understand this circle of fifths ... I believe it's very useful when one understands it ... But yours truly was lost 😅 at the pace he was going. But if I pause n replay several times ... Maybe it'll eventually make a lot of sense.
the link to the free color guide didn't work....
Hey G K III, I'm sorry about the technical error. The link was outdated. It's now working. Feel free get your guide. Thank you for letting me know.
It's not a Circle of Fifths - it's a Dodecagon of Fifths. :)
i feel inclined to agree.
Yes and it can be looked at chromatically.
Us Aliens Are Learning Piano.
Very confusing. I believe that it requires some knowledge beforehand in order to understand how your teaching the Circle of 5ths. And you go over things that make me want to say "wait a second I have a question" needing to clarify something you said. On to the next vid.
Watch and then watch again. Your ignorance should not be the main obstacle.
GREAT VIDEO
Do you know what a 5th is? If the 1st is a C than the 5th is G, because CDEFG is 5 notes in order and thats why G is the 5th of C.
@@whatabouttheearth Somehow I feel that you've said something so profound that it just went over my head. Over the next 20 years of my life I will devote my understanding of the Circle of 5ths so I can come back to this comment and tell you, "ALRIIIIGHT"!
i actually like this lesson but you lost me on the 7th chords and how to find them in the minor relation
Mulberry2000 you just find the 7th note on the scale and add it to your chord I think
I learned the circle for 5th that the 4th goes clock wise and the 5th goes counter clock wise
Hi Bruce, some instructors actually do teach the circle of 5ths in the way you're describing. I'll have to say that it's not wrong. Fourths and fifths are just inversions of one another. Good point.
@@LearnColorPiano I am currently struggling with this as different videos teach it differently with out saying why. Even you said counterclock wise is fourths but your website says its fifths. From what I have just learned in conversations with my brother it all depends on pitch. Something nobody seems to mention. Tell me if this is right. Its called the circle of fifths (no fourths) so clockwise is ascending in pitch and counterclockwise is descending in pitch. Which = fifths in both directions. If we reverse the pitch so clockwise is descending and counterclockwise is ascending then we have a circle of fourths.
I'm lost again.
The logic behind the layout is start at C at 12 o'clock position, count 7 half steps and that will give you the next point. Keep going with 7 half steps between each point, continuing clockwise and you will arrive back at C at the 12 o'clock position. Memorizing it doesn't give you the foundation as to why is is laid out like it is.
Most different key = tritone
since the Circle of 5ths is 'geometric' in a way, they must relate somehow to Crop Circles. Tie those together
🤔 or maybe...Its a construct of our perception and the patern recognition aspect of our brains because we are on a planet with one sun and one moon that has an eliptical orbit shifting from Aphelion to Perihelion by way of equinoxes that are aligned with the equator that is by way of the Tropic of Cancer that correlates to Perihelion and the Tropic of Capricorn which correlates to Aphelion and that is why it is hotter in the northern hemisphere when earth is farthest from the sun and maybe why earthlings have dual symmetries which is also why the moon goes from D-C crescents on Neap Tides and Full and Dark Moons on Spring Tides because dual Syzygy had to start with two and lead to 4 and 8 and 12 like the 3 cross of the Zodiac on Cavalry because the two fundamental forces of the nature of energy and existance are repulsion and attraction?
And maybe UFOs are government
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Thank you for the inspiration about the Circle of Fifths!
In return, you may check out this video:
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Could be clearer. Too advanced for me. I need to know how to get to each note.
the way his explained is quit complex and very hard to understand, the best way and easy to know notes is , 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 C D E F G A B the ones 1 4 and 5 are Major chords , 2 3 6 are Minor Chord and the 7 is Diminished and go on and on and on , for instance try to play C F G and see what is look you start to get an idea in this way if you want to know the relative minor just make account 2 3 6 are mine Dm Em and Am!
The logic behind the layout is start at C at 12 o'clock position, count 7 half steps and that will give you the next point. Keep going with 7 half steps between each point, continuing clockwise and you will arrive back at C at the 12 o'clock position. Memorizing it doesn't give you the foundation as to why is is laid out like it is.
Now, play outside of that
Anything else?.
I've watched many videos about the circle of fifths. Happy to say that I fully understand it, finally.
That being said, this guy is not a good teacher. His intentions are good but his execution is poor.
If you're a total beginner, I'd avoid this video if you want to learn about the circle of fifths.
Talking about fifths (as if there is only one type) without addressing diminished fifths and perfect fifths and augmented fifths is incomplete and misleading.
It's true that there are more than just one type of 5th. But I didn't cover those because the circle of 5ths doesn't represent diminished and augmented intervals when your following it sequentially. I try to keep it simple when covering fundamentals. Thank you for your comment.
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I’m terribly sorry, but there are much betters explanations of the circle of fifths on the web, eg music matters
you promised a free download of circle of fifths chart but dont deliver dont like being deceived im unsubscibing
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@@LearnColorPiano ok thankyou for responding i will check it i appreciate this very imformative video
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this whole thing can be taught much more easily ! so many informations in one shot will confuse people very easily. sorry ! DISLIKE
I am sure this video will be useful to serious musicians but if you want to learn music for fun like me you will find it dry and boring. Couldnt continue watching it.
Hi Ed, Thank you for your comment. I think that music theory turns a lot of music students off in general. I know that's true with a younger me. I'm sorry you didn't like the video and I'll strive to make things more interesting and fun.