Mig Welding Basics 4 - Avoiding LOF - Ice Bucket Words
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Part of learning Mig welding basics involves knowing mig welding techniques that prevent lack of fusion. With short circuit MIG, lack of fusion, or cold lap is always a concern on anything thicker than 1/8" .125" (3.2mm)
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I be a college welder, and these videos can adequately replace whole sections of my instructors practical examples. These things are a godsend for a man on a schedule.
I was thinking about this the other day while laying some dimes. Thank you so much for this invaluable information! Often times those of us younger experience "welders" judge our quality on the astetics of the bead but you seriously proved how fatal that can be with regard to proper fusion. Thank you!
Dang it Jody. I've been welding for 25 years (not professionally but build projects and repair ranch related things) and this is the first time I've ever seen LOF talked about. I've been a "horseshoe pattern" welder all along. Better to be late to the party than to never show up at all. Thank you for taking the time to make these videos. They have helped me improve my fabricating more than anything I've come across in 25 years.
Thanks you for doing the ALS challenge. As always your videos are so great!!!
Bruce
I really like that you take the time to cut and etch while doing these demos. That's the best way short of x-ray to determine the quality of the weld!
Brings back memories of when the ice bucket challenge went viral. Loving this video series.
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I've been watching your video series since I recently acquire for house projects a Milermatic 211 .. and after good amount of welding videos it's the first time that someone actually claims ( which is common sense for sure ) penetration over nice dimes finish ..
How did you become so smart? Great videos and I appreciate you sharing all the info.
What a great and thoughtful series of videos! Obviously a teacher. As a rusty old home welder I found them very helpful as I just bought a Hobart 190 to add to my 'family' and was looking for a little coaching. Thanks for being out there!!
I absolutely loved seeing the acid test of the welds.
What diameter wire did you use?
Great video thank you!
The tip with the naval jelly is cool. No need for a special lab to inspect weld quality.
Hi Jody,
I really started improving my welding skills the day I started etching my welds, it greatly helped me understand penetration and fusion.
It lets me "Feel" the puddle.
Excellent tutorial...!
Pierre
who on earth do the 23 dislikes on this video belong to???? AWSOME channel
Good question.
Thanks for all your videos, this will definitely help me pass my bend tests at school
i'm learning a lot from this basic series. Is there a video bundle with all of them together at a killer price?
Great video! Could this weld style be applied to pulse arc mig? I am about to test on pulse arc but I can always see that crater that you just informed me is actually LOF. I am only allowed to run vertical stringer beads, no weaving. Thanks!
lost2212x yes, you can apply this to pulse mig.
weldingtipsandtricks Really good on the showing route weld Jodi! I was going ask Jimmy D glad you did ..Thank you! Pete
Top notch tutorial with dozens of valuable tips. Thanks!
Good tip Jody I do the c thing like that sometimes mostly circles though. I never knew it didn’t penetrate with the c style thanks for the helpful tips you the man Jody 🙏👊🏻
Thanks for the great video. Here I was, as a new, learning, welder, thinking that the stack-of-dimes was everything. It's good to know it's not the only thing.
The only time you want a stack of dimes is tig or maybe 6010 6011. Not mig.
I need some help with welding 22ga corner joints. (Sheet metal) Thank you for all of your instruction. It really helps!👍🏽
Excellent video series. Top notch teaching. Thank you Jody.
Great video, extremely helpful to me. Just bought a Miller 211 and waiting on supplies to start practicing, eventually going to be replacing body panels and light suspension work on a small unibody car.
No clue if I'll ever use that machine to its fullest, but I keep reading about people buying small 110v only boxes and being disappointed with them.
Thanks Jody for sharing with us !
the mig tip you never use was one that I always thought was best. I can always make the bead look nice doing a "half moon" push technique. however. . you just plainly showed how much lof is left behind. thank you so much for your videos. for some reason I thought I could mig weld because I could make a pretty bead. my jaw just dropped when I first watched this. I've been welding a handful of years but I've just found you on the Internet. I am hooked! my next big purchase will be a TiG welder ac/dc of course. I'm extremely amped to apply your instructions to my welding. thanks again!
jeffBrianNC2AK
Great video. Thanks for taking the time to make the vids to teach us youngsters.
Excellent video showing cross section, I've learned something thanks Jody .
Nice video, I am relatively inexperienced at home welder and your videos have helped me very much. Also, I wanted to applaud you on your ALS ice bucket challenge. It gets very old seeing so many people making light of ALS and forgetting the point. Well done.
Excellent video. I use MIG at home and, unfortunately, I've always used the technique you described first. I'm gonna head out to the garage to test the other methods and see how it goes. Thanks.
Hi Jody. I recently found your channel. I love the series. You make things easy to understand and follow. I am working to get as much time on my machine as I can. One thing that is challenging me is to see the joint when I’m doing t-joints. I tend to be too hi, or low. I just can’t see it. Any thoughts? I have a hw store Lincoln self-darkening helmet. Wondering if that is the issue. Appreciate and feedback anyone has. Thanks. Mike
Hello Jody! Your videos are excelents and helps me a lot. Also helps me to practice "technical" english, I'm from Argentina. I'm very grateful that you spend a lot of time teaching and sharing your knowledge, I'm sure that It brings many benefits to many people, so thank you again.
My question is; why don't to use always this "non-movement" technique? I mean just pull or push and so.. We can see in this video that in those cases It have much more penetration than doing circles or arrows... And in TIG welding, isn't it the same?
Saludos!!!
Thanks for showing us the proper technique. I've been using that half circle method you showed in the video unaware of its LOF. I'll definitely change/practice a new technique now. Thanks!!
Loving your videos, and clearly what I think I 'know' about mig welding is actually based on bad advice and a badly set up machine! occasionally I produce an awesome weld (I usually work with car bodywork thickness steel) but it's not repeatable as I don't know what I'm doing wrong or right!
with the advice from your videos, I really feel I am getting to understand how I can improve, set up the machine properly, and figure out why things are wrong and how to correct it. again, many thanks to you my friend for taking the time to show us numpties where we are going wrong! :-)
Your videos are great. You know your stuff. I noticed you also knew enough not to have ice in the bucket at the end. lol
Very Good!! nice for you to reflect on ALS also.
Keep on repairing America Bother.. you are teaching more than you know!!!! Think about that....
Thank you sir. Being a entry level welder this series has been very informative. I have a Hobart 140 and I'm wondering if it is fit to weld a utility trailer using 1/8" and 3/16" mild steel? Or is it time to upgrade?
Excellent series! Thanks for such a professional production. Learned a lot regarding practical knowledge.
I take it you're a teacher? If so, you certainly do explain welding technique quite well. Thank you.
Thank you for you videos I wish you were there as my teacher 40 years ago I had great teacher but I get a greater understanding from you and your videos
Thanks again and keep up the good work
WW.. New Bern North Carolina
Nie ma się czym przyjmować..nigdy się do tego nie nadawalem. W Polsce mamy takie przysłowie też . Nie ma tego złego co by nie wyszło na dobre. Tym optymistycznym akcentem szczerze życzę sobie że się "znajomość" już skończyła
Keep that arc at the front edge of the puddle.....lack of fusion.....I think I am getting it, thanks!
Getting to be a BADD AZZZ NINJA WELDER IS NO JOKE, for sure!
You showed the "straight bead" technique and mentioned the 'stack of dimes'. Speaking strictly on weld strength.... does the 'stack of dimes' provide any benefit beyond 'beauty'?
Stack of dimes has no benefits in strength, but if done correctly you have a beautiful weld with the same fusion as a basic drag weld.
Great examples, learned something new. Volume on the weld video was easy to hear, ALS was hard to hear. Keep up the great work and thanks for using your instagram account!
Well I just learned an important lesson. Thanks, Jody!
Realy nice tips and tricks.. Nicely made videos.. tx and Greetings from norway.
Thanks for the instructional video Jody, Practice practice practice. I need some too!
Had a huge issue with LOF last 2 weeks at work. Couldn't figure out what was going on. I use Flux in a production environment. After welding there are huge slag pockets. This helps because it let's me know it's probably and angle issue. (And bad manipulation)
i love your videos man. im not a welder by any means, but ive learned alot from you to up my game a litt bit.
My grandfather died of Luke Garrett disease, I saw him wither down to nothing. He died my first day of high school 1984 September 4
The 'arrow pushing' motion ( >>> ) looks like it has quite a bit of undercut at the top and it looks like you needed to adjust your travel speed at the top to properly fill up your weld.
I also wonder what the repeating ) motion would look like if you changed your weld angle to a more aggressively dragging angle to push back your edge a bit.
I personally like to do little sails/triangles or a stitching motion when welding fillets, but for outside corners I typically gouge; shortening the arc length when moving forward and then lengthening it to fill in the rest of the profile before moving along.
Nice, good advice my friend, should have paid more attention in high school, because my welding sucks 😕 😒 .
The younger generation just isn’t producing men like Lou Gehrig. Not trying to be a downer, just a fact…check any welding shop and ask about the new guys.
Thank you for your videos, I am learning so much.
First time I have heard the "Iron Horse" phrase in decades. Thanks for the awesome videos. Lou is my all time fav BTW.
Great vid , one of the best . Now I can show my know it all guys at the shop . Thank you sir
I use naval jelly as well, it works pretty fine to say the least.
Plus I’m working with a shade 11 helmet I can see the puddle but I can’t run a straight line should I back off to a shade 10 or even 9?
love the etching really puts the proof in the pudding thanks for a great vid
Can you do the same with allum, mig . I got a tanker repair shop and we do a lot of leek repairs in gasoline tankers. Do to the way these tanks are we have to use a MM350p with .035 wire and 100%Argon with a 25ft push pull . We have a lot of arguments with some of the older guys on the way we cut old welds out and weld back in to them. My system works better than all of the other guys at our shop but more often than not im stuck grinding out a bunch of there nasty welds and fix them my way. If you could image yourself sitting in a gas tank welding a head wall to the barrel of the tank both are .250 the head is rolled at the outer edge forming basically a t joint entirely around the barrel. Most leeks form 1 ft long on the bottom of the tank over the frame rails.
Correction i said t joint . Its a lap joint
I use the same method on aluminum mig. Always keeping the arc at leading edge or tracing leading edge of the puddle.
It depends on thickness.
Thanks
great videos! I have subscribed to your channel. could you please tell me the name of the guy that you said that does a lot of projects. Would appreciate that. keep up the great work!
Hey Jody , is it ok to whip forward and back to lay dimes ? Are stringers better than whipping ? And is it a lack of fusion if you whip ?
Were you using 75/25 or pure CO2 for this demonstration?
I'd like to see you come out with some new videos on MIG welding Bob Elkhart
Really good tip for a perfect MIG weld.
sir how to avoid a cold start at the weld at the start and lack of fusion at the end of the weld. I am trying to join a 1.2mm mild steel sheet to an 8mm mild steel sheet..the path of the welding is half the shape of a rectangle due to the welding path I have to make this weld in two steps from right to center and left to center.
I thought lof was lube oil filter.
Jody, one day I would love to drive over there and buy you a beer. All your videos teach me something new. I may think I have something only to see one of your videos and learn something else!
I've learnt a few things here. Thankyou 👍
awesome videos. I'm learning a lot from you. From South Africa here
Sir my help you mig welding basic training started
Jody. I've been following your videos and again want to thank you for both great instruction and videography! Two questions please. First, where can I get free small pieces of metal for practice? Second, would the cheap helmet from harbor freight allow a good view of the bead while welding (at least for a beginner on a cheap HF 90amp mig flux core welder)?
Thanks for sharing!
I dont know about free but if you buy metal from a scrap yard, or pay scrap price for metal from a local business, you can at least sell it back to a scrap yard when you are done with it. Never used a HF helmet before so cant really speak to that
Get the better helmet at Harbor Freight and you will have a decent helmet. If you are going to weld for a living, you will want to purchase something a little better. www.amazon.com/3M-Speedglas-Welding-Auto-Darkening-07-0012-31BL/dp/B003TM0SDU/ref=pd_sbs_hi_5?ie=UTF8&refRID=1XK24QH41139ZFEA7DJ6
Najlepsze filmy jakie widziałem i dlatego postanowiłem zacząć spawać. Chciałbym umieć tak spawać jak Pan.
Jimmy probably has DIRESTA ice cube trays made up for the event ;-)
I challenge Lanse-Stretch-Chuckie2009 ;-)
Tig or MIG
Strength wise is there a difference?
Hey Jody have you ever had a chance to mig weld with the Miller 350P? If you have, would you recommend it for your only mig welder, and how would it compare to the Lincoln 350MP
How do you prevent cold lap? Im doing vertical up no backing plate 3/32 gap with bevel and land. My root is perfect. But my face bends keep cracking. I think its because of cold lap. I was told to make sure I pause on the ends as I do a weave up. ANy suggestions????
The other comments already said it: tremendously useful information. I begin to understand what I should be watching for to get the penetration I require! Brilliant! Thanks a heap!!
Curious to what your thoughts were on the thermal arc fabricator and would it be something you'd recommend. Debating between lincoln 180 230v or fabricator 181i 230 volt.
great channel, needing advice on a 115v MIG I purchased new. it has never penetrated correctly and bogs down something horrible. checked all settings and ground. will only lay superficial welds, please help
Saw a job being done by overlapping one second MIG bursts, turned out the welder was totally unqualified, I wonder if this would produce an acceptable weld ?
Hi Judy. Thanks for all the videos and passing along your knowledge. I have a question for you. I’m far from an expert at welding. It’s a hobby for me. If I’m doing a job and not sure about the settings is it ok to be safe and run it hot. Not so hot that I blow threw. My thought process is that it might not look pretty but at least I’m getting penetration and the clean it up with the grinder. I hope that question makes sense
Saw a job being done by overlapping one second MIG bursts, turned out the welder was totally unqualified, I wonder if this would produce an acceptable weld ?
thanks for sharing your knowledge. I'm an old fart, but ALWAYS learn something from your videos.
Hello Jody!!! Could you do a test to check is it penetration and fusion is greater when positive "+" clamp on mass and opposite when "-" on mass? Is it has some relation to "lof"??
hello can you explain as well grading equipment to apply mig welding position ascending .quiero know the right kind of amperage, wire speed, voltage and co2 thanks.
I would really like to know what your wife said and or thought when she turned and looked at you like she knew just what to on Sunday with only .024 wire !!!! LOL !!!!! Thank you for the awesome videos you do much better then most others out there !!!
Great content! Thanks Jody!
Rather listen and eye it
Nicely explained. Simple and to the point.
Keep up the great work.
Richard
"keep the arc at the front of the puddle" - simple rule to follow and makes intuitive sense. Great job brother Jody
Great videos, thanks.
Liking this series Jod, should be good for the new guys and some of us "Older Gents" :P
Each video from you is great thanks for sharing your beautiful experience
Plz Hindi language spoken
how do u weld 1 inch thick to 1 1/2 inch thick steel can only use drag, and has to be 8mm fillet,
when its too small i slow my motion down and then i get undercutting, also when i direct the weld into the middle i get like a overlap on my bottom weld
Great video i didnt think that would be such a big deal now ill second think my mig techniques
Can you weld with the "
Is it not allowed to bevel….
can you make a video on welding stainless steel pipe scratch start how not to get a fish eye on the root pass
When I watch these videos, it really make me want to have gas mig but sadly all I have is flux mig