Mig Welding Basics part 7 Vertical Tee Joint Drill
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This is part 7 ins this MIG welding basics series. Mig welding uphill is where all of a sudden, things get harder. Gravity comes into play...as well as the tendency to want to use too much gun angle and stickout.
This video shows some tips on how to mig weld vertical uphill better and how to get lots of practice without using much metal. - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
I welded for a local shop yrs ago..still learned more in one day watching these videos than I did in months of on the job.
Great content and presentation..thanks
Gotta say what I like about Jody's videos: he get to the point real fast, not a lot of extraneous talk or monkeying around, down to business with critical points made!
True dat. Dont forget, the best close ups on TH-cam.. that ive seen anyway.
Same information you came to get not a lot of extra talking just to talk to many ppl do that now it makes me just move on to another video
A great video again. One of the things that I use uphill mig for is to demonstrate to students the idea of more time on the sides, less in the middle to flatten the bead.
The concept applies across procceses but mig is the one where it comes in handy.
Another nice thing about uphill GMAW is the better penetration. For your viewers that watch regularly they probably already know. But the thickness limits on a low amperage machine can be increased by changing the position the vertical with uphill progression.
After a few years of being involved witb welder testing and qc I can tell you that fusion type defects happen less on vertical joints than flat. Provided the bead shapes are good when you fill in the joint.
Thanks for what you do.
Thanks a lot for your videos Sir.
Watching them makes me change my job to welder and practice all of yours video lessons.
Thank you very much!!
Thank you for great camera and knowledge. You help me with heavy I beam construction. You have great skill in your tech. . Never stop making videos!
Nice beads, this helps a lot. I’ve been watching your videos since high school welding class
I watched your entire basics series, and learned so much. Thanks you. I have problem with hand placement when doing long welds. Maybe you can do a dry run on how to adjust your bracing as you move along to keep the weld look good. Mine looks bad when I have to move my brace hand. You've given me a lot of knowledge on whys of welding, more than any other channel. Keep up the great videos.
Honestly you just need to practice free hand. Engage your core and breathe slowly. I used to weld landing gears for semis and it was about a 2ft weld and you just gotta get comfy and position your body where you want to finish and wind back to the start
I had never heard of the upsidedown v techniques until watching your video. In Australia we were always taught to use a figure 8/infinity symbol pattern technique or or a number 4 pattern turned sideways. Interesting technique I will try and experiment with it.
I have become a much better welder watching your videos. Thank you very much for the knowledge.
thanks for this, im stuck with WABO so downhill is not an option and at first my uphill looked like a row of Hershey kisses melted together. the Z weave got me on track and i was able to tighten things up. wish me luck i have a weld test for Janiki industries in Washington state. moving up in the welding world and some credit to you for sure!
Doing my city and guilds level 2 MIG welding course so this is really helpful
Doing the same course I think lad. On my 3rd out of 4th week.
This what you do , This why were here , Tips and tricks is The foundation ot years of experience and that my friend is Priceless. thank you for what you do 👕💨💪
Hi Jody,
Yep, uphill is to me the one I struggled the most at welding school, sit now I've got to practice just to keep the hand.
Since now I don't weld as regularly as some years ago.
Thanks for all of this,
Pierre
Absolutely one of the best channels
If you want a flat uphill weld, move over the center of the weld very quick and stay mostly on the sides.. works well with severel welds on top of each other.
I just figured this out. I was shocked. I'm like how is this so flat and nice looking
For the guy who asked about cons on the z weave. Typically the wider your weld face the more stress and distortion you are imparting on your work piece. Lots of first year welders coming out of school love big fat weave caps not fully understanding the stresses they are imparting just thinking of how fast it is. Also you increase your HAZ (heat affected zone) with that one big fat weave where as with stringers or a split-weave your weld deposit benefits from every subsequent pass (to a point) with each pass you anneal and normalize the subsequent pass resulting in a more refined crystalline grain structure. Also lots of testers who have never worked as welders won't allow weave caps but basically everything can have stringers. Please correct me if I'm wrong Jordie but I'm speaking with a background from Canada and lots of on site stick. Love the videos keep it up
You make a good point. Its different everywhere you go due to different codes and applications. I worked a fab shop for quite a while where 48 inch pipe was welded routinely using a big roller setup and auto mig with auto oscillation. But the code at that time permitted it for the application. For example, Pipe codes like B31.1 or API1104 have very different requirements...and those codes are even especially different from structural codes like AWS D1.1.
A very solid welding techniques master
awesome video jody on explaining mig uphill pretty close on how i do it
hey jody. Turkish welders watch your all welding movie and , they like you. you are a legend in Turkey.
Now I see what I did wrong! I went to class this morning after watching this and passed my vertical T joint
Amazing tips Jody, thanks a lot
Thanks for taking time to share your Knowledge 👕💨💪
Your videos help alot ! Big thanks!
loads of good advice jodie very well explained mate
Thanks Jody. Great as always.
The ever-humble master of his trade! 🏆
That's good sir im first time purchase this mig machine ..learning is very good n i helpful video
im glad you showed the z at the end.... the whole time i was like...
WOW i do mine totally different then at the end you showed the z weave and i was like... ahh so i wasnt taught wrong! lol
This was definutly what took me the longest to maser but once you do anything else is easy mode!! Being able to Stick weld uphill already helps alot although i found the Technic is slightly different for MIG than a 7018, 6011 uphill! i was also taught that you want to always set your machine to weld in any position at the same setting but, ive always had to lower my setting for GMAW uphill! Im assumeing you also have to set your machine and wire speed lower as well?
Nice video i subed just because... why not ive only watched about all of your stuff! LOL
Do you have any videos on finishing polished Stainless? ive worked grained 404 and such for hollow metal door frames so what all else would be involved beyond that to do the polished mirror stainless?
Hey Jodi/Jody? Lol, I hope one of them are right. Could you do one for the 2" pipe cert? That would be a 3/32 6010 root and 3/32 7018 cap.
Really wondering what you would recommend for a Lan and gap. You have a great way of explaining things!
THanks for the help!
Thank you you help the guys at my votec class alot keep up the work
greetings from Portugal. good videos
Thank you, You helped me out alot.
It's good to see a MIG gun with a thumb trigger. Thumb triggers were all I ever saw or used 35 yrs ago, when I was on the bench. Still the best in my opinion. Why they went out of style is beyond me.
Nice video as always Jody, can you pleasd do a video about pulse vending ?
Very helpful for this amateur.
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Wow excellent job
You make that look soo easy, I have tried so many times, it just builds up, splatter goes in the gun nozzle. Wire burns or melts..
how do you manage to get those amazing arc shots?
Hey man where can I order that welding stand from for my class I teach. would love to get u down to my class to show my students some of your techniques. We have a video class and everything to shoot a video!
You make it look so Easy xD and when you said "Thanks alot for Watchin" My xbox one went crazy lol
thanks you make it look easy !
I wish I had a welder and some scrap metal laying around!
12v batteries and a carhood youll be throwing beads like mardi gra
hell yea thanks for the vids, learned a lot
thank you for your work!
Without you most of us wouldn’t be able to feed our families (:
That stand looks pretty awesome.
I wonder if a guy could make one like it out of pipe?
Would you recommend the same pattern and techniques for welding vertical up with flux?
great video, thank you.
I need a good tip for restarting/tie in my uphill mig weld
Hey Jody, You make great tutorials for people like me so please keep it up. Just a quick question, at 03:41 you mentioned about overlapping Triangles, and going on about it looks more circular than a triangle. Would by doing overlapping circles do work or not, or is it better just to stick with overlapping triangles. Thanks and I would be grateful if you could reply :-)
Really liking these videos, going thru MIG welding in class at the moment. Would you have any suggestions for a good welding machine for the average persons garage? Something that has good function but doesn't murder the students bank? Thanks -Dan
very nice sr .
suggestion: voltage and ipm for vertical uphill, for .045"?
Good video. Hardwire vertical is not used much that i have seen. Really most out of position work is done with dual sheild seems like anymore.
Hi Mate love your videos . Very informative. I'm a newby and have Xmas Holiday project building a single axle trailer around 5x6. Just wondering what the best welding technique I should use. As it's structural I want to make sure my welds are strong enough. Any help , tips on Mig would be much appreciated. Yes I will be doing a lot of practice beforehand. Thank you
Not so much a technique tip as a process tip. If you are going to use MIG i would suggest getting a set up than can do a true spray transfer. In almost every circumstance you will get much deeper penetration over other mig processes
Can you do a T Plate video for over head stick welding using 7018 rods with 6 stringer bead passes?
What were the settings used here ? I grew up on the farm teaching myself to stick weld haha after army passed a test got certified to weld on railroad anddd now shop got furloughed sooo I applied at a company for full time welder & they told me I had to take a test and I studied up best I could to have at least the basics down pat …when I get there they said I had to take a vertical and horizontal test … it ended up being a 1-bead Tjoint that was vertical and said a minimum of 6 beads/tags per inch 🤔and I couldn’t use trigger the whole time so I asked ole boy to show me an example I hadn’t heard of that and it was basically a series of uphill tacs and the settings were 27.5V @ 435ipm wire speed MIG weld … to me that seems mighty hot no wonder they wanted tacs andd said it was pulse welding uphill was the name and the little bit I know about that isnt pulse just a setting that may or may not be on the welder ??? I’d appreciate ANYYY feedback fellas take care and God bless..!
Hey Jody, I'm a Millwright apprentice at a fab shop currently working on conveyor systems, and I've just started welding MIG. I'm earning a degree in aerospace engineering, and want to learn to fabricate spacecraft (to my own design specs, in the future). Do you have any specific videos aimed at aerospace fabrication? I heard that's your bread and butter.
what settings are we talking? I tried this technique along with the correct angle and short stick however the pool was building to fast leaving a lumpy weld. Is it a low voltage setting with low wire speed when welding vertical up?
Jody if you had a choice on what process for a full penetration weld what would it be and why
Hey Jody new to the game here and my biggest issue is that I can’t see where I’m working other than the arc. I picked a $60 Auto darkened from HF thinking that it would be just fine so I don’t know much from using any other higher big money brand name. Question, is it just me or a welding helmet is really a game changer here? Thanks!
When would you recommend laying a bead on top of another bead?
Jody do you turn down the wire speed for vertical lap and tee joints to combat build up?
If your doing vert uphill with a several pass fill in. Do you quench periodically? Or let it air cool? I know quenching can be detrimental to strength and makes warping worse. But it seems the hotter things get with each pass, the more the weld tends to want to sag
when putting on tractor loader attachments i cannot flip over the attachment to do flat this will help. what amperage would u set for 0.45 vertical. cannot stand doing downhill mig. thanks and appreciate the videos
very nice
I've been doing a lot of vertical lap joints recently and I have issues when the base plate is on the right side -- the wire buzzes as it should through the middle and on the left toe of the weld, but on the right (base plate side) it sputters and spits. I've tried changing the travel and work angles to no avail. Can anyone help? This happens on a weaved cap, not the narrow stringers.
I use to go to mti and I got kick out but i was was the beast one in mti for weldiing and I can weld just as good
Question Jody, do you stringer beads actually lay flat ? because I've tried your technique and i can't seem to get them to lay flat. what am i doing wrong ?
If id watched this 2 years ago it wouldve been like bringing a baby to a metal shop
Maybe it's an optical illusion, but did you, or do you clean the mill scale off before an uphill pass? I found it MUCH easier and cleaner to hit it with a grinder first and get the scale off the plates. Might be something helpful to pass along to students. Thanks for helping us all, old and new to welding, learn a few more tricks! ~ Billy
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What kind of welding machine are you using? What is the voltage and wire speed setting? What size wire?
Hey Jody,can you do a video on how you deal with all the smoke that MIG welding generates and how it has affected (if at all)your health and quality of life over the years of being a welder?...Thanks and great job on the videos👍
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Can you please tell me what type of gas do you use for inconel 625? Or could you make a video on it.
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Very true Jody! as always you are on point! I hate that modern day fairy tale that semi-auto is easy... Fuse weld with tig also is fkn easy! Anywayz hav a nice day welders ..Keep learning and improving thats all that matters to me... ;) Stayin humble!
What do you have you welder set to? Wite speed and amperage at? Do you tend to run hotter or colder?
Did you leave the machine set as before (1G) re volts and wire speed?
Bill, dang it. That is one of the main things I meant to talk about and I left it out. For this weld, I lowered settings to 19.5 volts and 245 ipm with .035" wire. thanks for bringing that to my attention.
weldingtipsandtricks thanks for the reply & video.
+weldingtipsandtricks i use a miller welder at work not sure on which model but i was wondering what was your wire speed and heat? like about 19.5 amps and 4 wire speed?
Chris papi You use CV , not CC. IPM is wire feed speed.
What setting do you have your welder on?
Toe of weld is the second bead over the first bead, correct ?
Help. What's the gun angle? Travel angle? Or whatever it's called. I'm in my welding class doing this and I cant seem to get it. Been working on it for a week.
Can you do a video with all positions of .052 pulsed spray?
Hey Jodi, when would temp sticks ever be used? I knew a friend of mine that would swear by them, but I never hear you mention them.
If you are welding something that needs to be x-ray tested they're a great tool. When it's cold outside and you're welding something that needs preheating and to remain within temp guidelines you will need the temp sticks. They sell different temperature tester sticks for whatever temperature guidelines you will be following. If you're welding something and you like to crank up your machine setting they're a great tool to pay attention to wether or not you're overheating your workpiece.
They definitely help for preheating for proper weld penetration in colder weather. Preheating in cold weather also will help prevent cracks.
Do u have any videos of mig pipe welding ?
What's the heat and wire speed set at I mastered aluminum uphill but it's different on steel
If youre using an ln25 with fluxcore is your stickout going to be slightly longer?
Really made uphill click with me thanks ypu.
is the z weave root pass or used after triangles up rootpass then z weave used on second pass ?
Thank you
What brand of wire are you using for a vertical up, and what brand of wire would you say you SHOULD NOT use for a vertical up? I'm used to that Hyundai crap.....(horrible wire)
what gas did u use? is it just me or do u get a different puddle when welding 100%co2 than 25 75 I can weld uphill eazy with co2 but with 25 75 my weld look like crap
Could you tell the intensities and thread used for this process? thx¡¡¡¡
What voltage and wire speed require to uphill welding Jody?
Hey Jody. I'm Blake and I'm 15, sophomore in highschool. I may possibly be taking college courses next year in a welding program at WITC of Ashland.
I've done quite a lot of welding, but my grandfather's shitty harbor freight 90A flux core only does so much, which isn't a lot...
I am looking at the brand new Lincoln Power MIG 210. Mig and tig. I was mainly wanting tig, but for $1000 this unit is a great deal.
What would you recommend for a torch for this unit as one is not supplied?
Could you possibly PLEASE get your hands on one to showcase?
Thanks
Get a tig machine. More versatile for at home projects and better paying skill.
Brian Graves you obviously don't know what the power mig 210 is..
AnythingVG you obviously don't know what the "paying skill" of tig is. the shop i work for will train mig guys off the street to mig weld. i TIG though still need more time on the torch but i make far more then mig guys.
If you are going to learn to TIG weld an AC/DC machine is essential if you're going to spend 1000 dollars. AC is required for aluminum welding.
do you use a pop filter on your voice overs? if not i recommend one. they are really cheap.
thanks for the video this helped me a lot.
When you weld horizontal flat and the settings on machine are good do you keep the same settings if you weld vertical uphill or do you change the settings.
No..mig can't be done vertical unless u drop your heat...then your out of proceedure...pulse arc
Yep pipefitting in the shop mig weave
Hi sir what is the correct amperages and voltage of that up hill mig Welding