Central to Newcastle in Real Time
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- Real time cab view of a passenger service from Central Railway Station in Sydney, NSW, to Newcastle, NSW.
Video has full audio apart from two conversations between myself and the Guard which are of no relevance to the video or the operation of the train.
22/02/14, departing Sydney Central at 1015hrs and arriving Newcastle Station at 1308hrs (5 minutes late!)
Run N139, V19 leading and V9 trailing.
Train driven by myself, as evidenced by running sheet at start of video.
Video also by myself, recorded on a RoadHawk HD dash cam.
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This is now an historical document. Thank you.
Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwww the Newcastle line
Awwww the old Newcastle line
If this was a recent recording, then it's worse than I rememeber it 10 years agow when I left Sydney (& Australia). It looks like 1988 when it looked like they'd given up. Very depressing to see the thugs are winning.
@@WorldOfTransit What do you mean by this?
Someone asked for time-stamps at each stop.
11:26 Strathfield
22:08 Eastwood
25:00 Epping
35:33 Hornsby
1:09:25 Woy Woy
1:17:42 Gosford
1:33:25 Tuggerah
1:36:50 Wyong
1:41:44 Warnervale (short platform so the head of the train stops beyond the level-crossing)
1:49:24 Wyee
1:55:52 Morrisett
2:01:27 Dorah Creek
2:10:27 Awaba
2:15:08 Fassifern
2:22:07 Booragul
2:24:07 Teralba
2:27:19 Cockle Creek
2:31:30 Cardiff
2:36:00 Kotara
2:39:10 Adamstown
2:41:50 Broadmeadow
2:45:20 Hamilton
2:48:04 Wickham (now called Newcastle Interchange and end of the line)
2:50:03 Civic
2:53:12 Newcastle
Tysm that's awesome
I can see that most of the time is lost between Wyong and Newcastle ... seriously though Ken, thanks for the effort of doing Alistair's job of explaining where we are stopping. Well done mate !
what the sus happened to newcastle
@@frehesh.4386 In what respect ?
I fly between Sydney and Perth 6 times a month and catching the train from Central to Fassifern is always the highlight of coming home
Every second weekend, i’d go on a heavy V set from Wyong to Central with my pop. And we would play this game where we need to read the station signs of the stations we go past in the V set. It was fun! Then we have a suburban train day in Sydney for hours. We would then go back to central and take another heavy V set back to Wyong. I just want to thank you for making this video. It always reminds me of those fun times. And when i am out of high school, i want to apply as a train driver and work my way up to a almighty intercity train driver like you. I now always know the way home just in my phone! Kind regards ~ Carlo. R ~
Carlo, loved your post above. My grandson calls me Pop. I think I'll take him on some train rides once Covid is done. All the best mate !
Thanks john!
Not many vids left of the old run before they stopped the line at Hamilton. Nice shot of the big pe- ahem, Queens Wharf Tower as you come into Newcastle as well :)
Thanks for the upload
Once again I thank you, for this most enjoyable journey. Luis .... from Pennsylvania U.S.A
I live in WA now but in the 80’s I used to live in Newcastle. Caught this train many a time brings back memories. Loved the train ride. Sometimes I even dream of it .
Wow!! The original Newcastle train line before the cut back. Well done.
Whats the cut back?
Jeremie Brogniez back then the line ran from Sydney to Newcastle but then the government cut the line between Wickham to Newcastle then Wickham station was replaced with an interchange and now they have lightrail running on the street now. USELESS
Hi Alistair. Thank you so much for Your uploads! I'm from Melbourne and love the Sydney and intercity trains up here. I travelled to Hawkesbury River station today, and come back to watch that section specifically now. You must never get off the brakes coming down that steep hill trying to keep it on sixty!!!
Thanks for your comments! Yes, pretty much on the brakes the whole time :-)
Thanks for the posting it was really great watching it Takes a long time to get to Newcastle Greetings from Wollongong
And from bomaderry
Great video, Alistair. Thumbs up!
I should change to my sim racing seat to watch these cab ride videos...
Hi Alistair - great video buddy - enjoyed the whole trip! Great to see what was the ride all the way in to Newcastle. I was crew with LVR taking the last steam train (3237) into Newcastle Terminal before they closed the line at Hamilton. Used to go to Woy Woy as a kid on the U series trains - have always loved that line especially the 1 mile Woy Woy Tunnel and the trip from there to Hawkesbury River. Lucky nothing major to slow you up at Wondabyne. Thanks again for a great ride.
Are you familiar with the 3801..?
We would love to see more from Australia. I added this fine video to the 'long cad rides' playlist.
It is a beautiful journey. I used to travel it often when I was a student at Newcastle University. I would head to visit family back in Sydney from time to time. I lived for a short while just above and to the side of that last tunnel 2:35:05 known as the ‘tick hole’. My dog would wander the bush around the area and always get bloody ticks, area is called ‘Garden Suburb’. I missed it when i moved closer to the uni at Waratah. Great vid, great memories.
I've watched the whole video second time. It would be so great if you media a night drive on that route. I've been to Newcastle 19 years ago. I have many good memories there. Greetings from Istanbul.
Awesome video mate, sometimes I watch this to help me fall asleep
Excellent Vid love the V Series
Great video - nice to see where I am going instead of what I am passing.
Great video. I wish I knew about this when I was learning the north. It’s interesting to see other people’s style of driving. I’m not much different to the way I drive.
He stopped at... Central 0:15.. Strathfield 11:43.. SpringWood 22:00.. Epping 25:29.. Hornsby 35:25.. Woy Woy 1:10:20.. Gosford 1:18:40.. Tuggerah 1:33:35.. Wyong 1:37:40.. Morisset 1:56:00.. Dora creek 2:01:35.. Awaba 2:10:27.. Fassifern 2:15:14.. Cardiff 2:31:50.. Broad meadow 2:42:20.. Hamilton 2:45:20.. Wickham 2:48:10.. Civic 2:50:05... Newcastle 2:53:10
Passed wandabyne: 1:03:50
A did do RKS
That wasn't Epping at 22:20. Epping was ~25:29
@The Pacific Coast Railfanner 1:03:50
@@PeterWalkerHP16c it’s fixed..
I would like to see a train get from Strathfield to Springwood in 11 minutes and than back to Epping 4 minutes later. I don't think even a greatest fighter jets could do those speeds.
Wow awesome, i dont often catch v sets usually on the mountains line though
Sat on these 4 hours a day 6 days a week for five years, cant believe I'm sitting in one now on youtube. Commuting is madness for sure.
You love it
I used to do this trip a few times a year back when the Newcastle Flyer was around. The last time would have been about 1983.
I jumped the trains from Blacktown many a times as a kid, in the early 60's.
Many a times?
Good trip to Newy from Sydney my first time I've seen this video so could I suggest that you display on the screen the name of the stations you stop at so we can keep track of where the train is.Also State Rail need to get some weed killer onto those weeds just before Newcastle Station never seen them that bad .
No doubt they'd have already been concreted over sadly.
Very good cab ride loved the train sounds you can tell it's a heavy v set by the wine of the motors announcements we all know on short platforms to travel in the Rear two cars the station staff missing at 12:20pm must have shot through to the Toronto RSLclub they do good steaks there
Gee, Cecil....didn't they teach you how to use punctuation at school?
He was born before punctuation
Thought this was gre
It is a pity the State government got away costing the Newcastle section. However, a great nostalgia of the 1950s as a youngster seeing the trip from the cab.Top stuff , Alistair!
Well done !
Nice work.
Great video...you invented slow tv before SBS did!
Now I can show my pen friend what a train journey home is like!
Travel this a lot and great to see it from the cab.The V class , electrics will be missed when the questionable new ones take completely over .
Always wondered why they change over drivers etc at Gosford, after such a short time of the trip, maybe soone could enlighten me !
So sad to see that the line is now closed and replaced with light rail☹️
I really enjoyed this video. As I live in England, it's nice to see another countries railways. Can you if possible name the stations you stop at
Subsequent videos have station names :-)
the trains on the main tracks would either be Newcastle/Central coast service and Blue Mountain services? Another other type of train will use it too?
Beautiful route, with amazing scenery! Just a bloody shame the camera was angled to the left…
Does anyone have footage of Newcastle to Maitland? Preferably in a 620/720 diesel?
Hello driver love great video Australia
Thanks mate!
Well done. Any more cab rides.
Keith Pe
We might don't have all the fancy trains like in Europe the ICE but I love our noisy trains.
They still bringing us home and a big "Thank you to the traindrivers".🇦🇺
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I still remember when i recieved a cabride on a V set
Wish i could get one haha! Especially on an S Set before they're gone :,)
Don't think I've ever seen a platform as short as Wondabyne. How often is that used?
Probably lucky to used 2% of the time, if that. It's only on request. Passengers wanting to board the train will wave at the driver, passengers wanting to alight there have to notify the guard before we get there, the guard then notifies the driver.
Excellent...great vision of this historic line. I had seen these sights from steam train windows since the mid 50's but not from up front. Can you imagine the governments of today doing what was done back when this track, the western line and the south coast line were built from the 1850's. I would recommend interested persons look up the rich history of the northern line and how it was not fully completed until Hawkesbury bridge was built some time after sections of line operated either side of the Hawkebury
i love this video mate! i'm a train driver from belgium , ive been applying for sydney rail for 6 years now but they don't recruit offshort yet , are you in permanent contact with your collegue in the train ? i noticed you get informed about people near the tracks trough phone , do you have any procedures you have to do trough paper or is it all phone ? like passing a red signal .
Hi Jolien,
We have an intercom between the driver and guard, so we can speak at any time.
No paperwork required for that sort of warning, just a verbal acknowledgement. All radio conversations like that are recorded.
@@AlistairHarding oh nice , well here in belgium its all on paper . everything that you dl has to be written down . every minute you are delayed has to be written down plus reason... i really hope i can move to australia
Great Video Mate!
I take this or the BMT almost daily to the first stop :D (v-set ftw)
the cowan bank is steep down to the river , the hawksbury
If I had one piece of hopefully constructive criticism it's that it's a bit of a shame you couldn't find a way to anchor the camera in the central door window rather than the skewed left view.
But, hey, that's being picky, LOL.
Enjoy your vids, as I've said on others.
Cheers
p.s. still doing NBN?
how do people stop at wondabyne? like before boarding, do they tell the guard first and get to the end of the train?
Yes, exactly.
I stopped here yesterday for the first time! Didn't even realise it was a stop.
Yeah ask the guard at the say at central and again at hawksberry & get off at the rear door. And heading south ask the guard at the rear where you get on & pop your head out at Woy Woy
👀 awesome 👀
One time I booted up in the bathroom on this wonderful voyage
What’s the fastest section in the line ? What speed have you been up to ?
And what’s the potential maximum speed of these units ?
Thanks.
Line speed varies by type of train. For this train the fastest speed on this line is 125 IIRC. Fastest I've driven is 120. However other areas of the line for different trains are rated at 160kph, although it's rare for trains to reach that speed in any case.
I'm told that when these V sets first came out they were regularly driven at around 150 but over the years they've been de-rated.
Slower than a 38 Pacific in the good old days !
Hey Alistair, please reissue the vid with the names of the stations so we know where we are. If you need help Ken Newell has given a great lisiting below. Great vid !! I was able to add my own music as well. I've now subscribed to your channel. Cheers !!
I understand some of the signals but occasionally there are electronic boards with , sometimes a display of S or A lit up .... What do those signify ?
Do you know, it's been so long I can't remember! Can you tell me any timestamps, that might help.
In general, the NSW 'double light colour light' signalling, the light at the top indicates the condition of the block you're about to enter, (occupied = red, unoccupied = green, turnout = yellow), whereas the bottom light indicates the current setting of the next signal (clear = green, caution = yellow, stop = red, etc). There are exceptions and qualifiers, of course.
Bit late but if you’re still interested, the letters above signals indicate what route is set where more than 1 is available, e.g S might be for the suburban line, or south (never consistent). The only A I can think of is leaving Turrela the A will take you via the airport line, as opposed to the E taking you to the Illawarra local at Tempe.
I took the line of lights at 45:03 to be an indicator that we would be going straight on at Berrowra, instead of taking the left turnout at 45:27 into the platform loop. Yet today, I travelled that route, and the line of lights was there, but we turned into the loop (and had slowed down to do so). It wasn't clear why, given that there was no train waiting on the main line to return to Central. So, now I'm confused - how does the driver know whether to slow down there?
Hi Sylvia, that first signal you mention is simply a repeater for the following signal. The following signal will indicate if going straight ahead or turning out into Platform 3.
For northbound intercity trains, if stopping at Berowra, the vast majority of the time they will stop on Platform 3. This keeps Platform 2 free for a suburban train which is probably right behind the intercity train. The driver of the suburban train will then swap ends and prepare to head back south.
@@AlistairHarding The intercity train I was on didn't stop at Berowra. I expected it to use the platform 2 line, as did your train, so as not to need to slow down. Fortunately, if it lost time because of this, it made it up by the time we reached Hamilton, where I had a 4 minute connection with the Hunter line train.
1:46:23 were you speeding? I thought the limit was 110 not 115. Is there any 115 section between Warnervale and Wyee (excluding the first ~300 metres from Warnervale)?
To be honest I can't remember the exact limit there - and it's been nearly 3 years since I drove that route. (I no longer drive trains).
However it needs to be pointed out that the speed shown on the footage is the GPS speed from the camera, not the speed that is shown on the speedo in the cab. The speedo may have been reading below.
What have you been doing since trains?
NBNco Contractor
Speeding WTF we need the driver to punch on the throttle.. BTW who are you MR Traffic Cop
Not much to gain by speeding in a train, given that it's running to a timetable. Still, shame that it has to stop at Tuggerah, since that spoils one of the few places where it can go at speed.
Oh wow
Do you have a blue mountains line cab ride by any chance?
I do but I'm yet to edit it.
Ok thanks, I'll be sure to stick around.
Nice film - but would have been better if at least some the station names had been posted in the video.
have you got time stamps for each stop?
I added them on 23rd. May.
Is there anywhere in Sydney that hasn't been tagged by spray paint?
Melbourne's way worse
I'm in Sydney now from Melbourne and was just thinking how much worse Melbourne is for 'tagging'. But then when it comes to a train network Melbourne has fallen miles off the speed set by NSW.
Somehow, the V-sets stay pretty tidy! Especially when presentation has the necessary solvents and time.
Oscars and most of the Sydney Trains fleet get regularly tagged.
V19 always reminds me of Steely Dan's song when I happen to get it. I hope they've fixed the overhead vent since last time. Check out the Simon and Garfunkel "Hitscene 1970" video clip for the song "Baby Driver". You will recognize the scenery!
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Must get a dashcam! Double-Gosford early tomorrow.
Surprised NSWGR haven't made you pull this video.....
Why would they/how could they? Lol
long live the mighty V sets
I do this trip a lot I sometimes do the XPT to get home tho
I wish you would mention the stations.
R.I.p Hamilton to newcastle line 1887-2014
Hello newcastle interchange (2017-)
Hello newcastle light rail (2019-)
nice
as the last true transit cop , the panda , the pomster, epic, thnx
If I'm reading it right, then at 1:35:29 the speed limit is reduced to 90, having been 110, then at 1:35:44, further down the straight track, it's increased again to 100. That seems a bit odd.
You are correct, well spotted! I can offer no explanation for that - I'm not a track designer!
There's no advance warning of speed changes. You just need to know where they are. This is actually quite important as we need to be doing the correct speed when we pass the sign - it's not like a car where you see the sign and start slowing down and don't reach that speed until you're past the sign.
@@AlistairHarding
Yes, a remarkably crude system given what's been available in other countries for many years. The Netherlands, for example, has a trackside system that displays the speed to the driver on their speedo; it's present for all their different trains, and on all tracks. And it has one of the busiest rail systems in the world.
At the very least you'd think there'd be some mobile device system available with everything contained in it and able to read the train's position, thus displaying current limit, next limit and distance to the change.
@54:42 the railway tunnel to nowhere.....
Can I use this footage in a 24/7 cab ride live stream thing?
As long as I'm credited, certainly!
all those big power poles along the inlet...................installed by a russian chopper was awesome to see such skill
that’s a long route for Sydney train
It takes me 4 hours to get to new castle
oh yeah i was at the 3801 crash sight back in the day
Chopper on the V set
Reminds me of a " redrattler"
I have been watching American ie USA train drivers driveing trains on TH-cam by gosh they are a noisy bunch with their bells and horns thank the god we understand that our Aussie train drivers aren't as noisy makes for a more pleasant trip no need for aspirin and double scotch wisky
Yeah fine ... but how many "grade crossings" were there on this trip compared to the good ole US of a for a trip like this?
Obviously the have to sound the horn when there are track workers about - and they have to acknowledge by a wave of their hand.
Watch British ones. They're good as well.
This is the train ride from Stepford Central to Savannah Terminal via Valdosta and East Chaseville.
I don't know where I will be getting off at, but the cafe and first class towel service are great!
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I love this but can you go to Newcastle interchange
Nope, don't work there anymore.
Do you miss Train driving? Would you go back to it if you could?
3801 was quicker back in the steam hauled Newcastle Flyer days...
Didn’t know where the hell I was most of the time-
How can real time be now when this is 4 years old?
Real time is different from 'live'...
why do sydney trains decelerate and accelerate so slowly?
They're so old... these ones are around 40 years old.
Strap-hanging on the Paris metro is no fun. Those drivers are heavy on the controls.
You have to be joking. Most of them are hitting the platforms at between 40 & 60!
This is great, but some commentary would have been good. Even just station names.
What's that constant ratchet noise? Sounds like very primitive train controls.
That is the throttle lever. It does come across in the video louder than what you'd notice if you were in the cab, as the microphone/camera is pretty close to it.
Thomas
this isnt real time this was 10 years ago
I don't think you understand what real time means, friend.
@@AlistairHarding have you seen chef?
Hey there - the real time means that the video speed wasn't made faster or slower - it was in "real time" - but yeah I think it was about 10 years ago that they stopped the trains going all the way into Newcastle - hope that clears things up for you 😊
woy woy tunnel was loaded with exposives .............in ww2 just in case.the, chas n di visit to the central coast i got woy woy tunnel , the dog squad gave up n said, so be it its in the lap of the gods,everything could hide explosives
no information, no station names , have I got to guess where we are, CRAP.
Fart
Snail rail