Highly-skilled people leave SA
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 มิ.ย. 2023
- SA is experiencing a brain drain as highly-skilled people leave the country.
A UN report showed that between 2015 and 2020, just under a million
South Africans were living abroad, with that number expected to grow.
Wits School of Governance Professor William Gumede unpacks this further.
Tune into Newzroom Afrika DStv channel 405 for more. - ภาพยนตร์และแอนิเมชัน
Safety of family comes before anything else, tired of hijackings and being held at gunpoint.
Yes. Very well said. No future in this country. Going to get worse soon.
AND They want their LIGHTS to be ON😂😂🤦♂🤦♂🤷♀🤷♀
Why don't you leave?
@@reginabohlale5358 I did, left a sinking corrupt ship. SA has taken sides, the western countries can now see what's going on and they are leaving too. Happy days for you?
becoming a absolute sh@t hole
My sister is a highly qualified micro surgery theater nurse who assists doctors whom do surgery on unborn babies with various heart problems.prior to being born...she left SA ..years back ..as the health department wanted more black nurses. And not her so she moved to the USA..and she got snapped up...with brilliant high tech nursing job in her field of skill...she won't return...my other brother ..is a fashion designer...here in South Africa...also doing great...started his own company from scratch...was told3 years later it has to be 53 % black owned if he wants to keep his company going...or the BBE laws will fine him heavily...so he moved his company to UK.....he won't return iether..then my other brother was in finance...and was helping big big companies plan their way forward.with ways to increase their income and employ more people...and expand their business...then government said the company is not 53 % black owned..and it must complie with BBE laws...that company closed up and moved to overseas...and many lots good jobs... private companies..get really tired of government of South Africa..telling the companies how to run their own business...and whom they must hire... especially when government house is in a utter mess...and far far from being productive and having a from of order...
Yeah "B.E.E" is chasing businesses away
I was an immigrant to South Africa. I became a citizen. I voted to unban the ANC. I hoped I could carry on as a professional making a contribution. But things changed. I remained static in my job as the organization brought in the cadres. I sank lower in the pecking order with no chance of promotion. I resigned and went into consulting. Soon I couldn’t get contracts within South Africa because I didn’t employ black personnel in my single person cc. I found work with aid agencies. Then the aid agencies began moving elsewhere as they found SA had become difficult. At about the same time the robberies started occurring in our street and became more frequent. I stolen car and two motorbikes, cell phone computer etc. . After two break ins we decided to leave. I left when the ZAR was 5 to the $. Twenty years later it’s 19 to the $. The Zondo commission which gave us the horrifying news that the ANC had captured South Africa has only scraped the tip of the iceberg. Rolling blackouts, bankrupt municipalities, parliamentary inquiries on malfeasance, cholera outbreaks, water supply problems, violent demonstrations, looting and burglaries, student riots, Russian visitors etc. are all indicators of what has happened. I don’t regret a single day for making the difficult decision to leave.
Well done, this country is fked, thank you cANCer.
Yes!!!!!
Nice to hear of one 'yes' voter taking flack. Suppose most of the sellouts are happily settled overseas.
It is getting worse for professionals. Qualifications recognized and validation exams passed 30 years ago suddenly not recognized. And you are a bad white, who does not accept to work for free "to prove yourself"
By product of ideologically motivated burocrats, expressing their power.
😴😴😴😱
You live the result of having helped the anc get into power. When the stupidity of what you created hit you in the face, you ducked and left. Yet what you helped occur is now the fate of people who cant leave. You feel good about that?
I left SA 6 years ago and my net wealth was about 200k now my family has in excess of 4,5 million and I would love to come back to my sunny beautiful country bring back my wealth and invest and see my fellow South Africans on mass again. There are many like me. Why should we though? Ask the government this question it’s not just that I’m white although I do want them to answer this question as well (why can’t we just have proper equality under the law again). Why can’t you target those that have inherited wealth rather than just indirectly punishing all peoples of a certain race group different to your own. The principle is wrong and immoral and Mandela would be turning in his grave.
This in my opinion is reverses racism. You're right, they are not tackling the wealth issue in the country correctly if at all. They are mostly enriching their own pockets and investing in European countries.
"Ask this racist, fascist government" is more of an accurate description.
They will never change, I'm also leaving
It's not surprising, with such high unemployment brought by ANC government is understandable. People are searching for greener pastures. They are leaving with their taxes. How will the ANC government get money for grants because that's where they are good at.
I am also on my way very very soon. Being a professional person I can no longer make a living in this country. The middle class is disappearing. With employment equity laws there is little chance for me to find better employment so I will repatriate to a country who will take me. Government is doing this to themselves. Let the country fail.
Yes. 100 percent correct. Very good move. Wish I can get out of this country. Wish you all the best.
Can anyone tell me where to start?
That's why my 37 year old son left
@@dannygovender5062 😂get out
We have a choice...leave as emigrants now or flee as refugees very soon....either way, everyone in this country is screwed, not just the whites....
My wife applied for a job at Wits. She was rejected based on her race. She is a Phd student. After that we lost faith in the country. We would have immigrated if we had the funds, but the massive increase in interest rates made it too expensive. What do you expect?
What did your wife study?
Has she got a PHD or is she studying for her phd ????
They knew she wouldn't write assignments for students at a price
when will these journalists start reporting on the sheer racism against non-blacks?
I'd love to see the race break down of the people that are leaving.
Be sure as a pastor I know of young black South Africans who have left so am saying it's not about race as for black nurses are moving to countries like Saudi Arabia worst still Christians. Finally my point is it's worst
Exit of skilled South Africans from RSA a direct result of failed ANC rule.
Oh and there we thought it was Jan and the bois haha
Electrical Technologist - ECSA Registered. I would like to leave. Any organisation that is looking for these kind of services (Electrical Engineering profession). Reason: Lack of ethical behaviour and standards, impunity: - corruption, political leadership problem.
Ireland recognises ECSA registration
Chat to the Irish
The construction industry is even worse, impunity is the order of the day.
The only way to fix RSA is to vote the ANC out !
AMEN TO THAT!
Thats just the start , you grandchildrens children will be paying their debt
We've already hit the point of no return, if the ANC got voted out 5-10 years ago we might have been able to reverse the damage done
@@Sage24555 There's always hope. There are many countries that came out of desperate states and made it out. Some even in Africa. Rwanda and Kenya are the closest examples. Singapore is another. Though they might not be first world, they rose from the ashes. If we collectively rid SA of ANC and EFF (EFF will the nail that seals the coffin) we might stand a chance.
@@paballomolingoane2009 perhaps, but not before the entire economy collapses and most of everything that has been built up is destroyed. There might always be hope but it does not supercede reality. There are many examples of countries that never recovered, Zimbabwe for example. Besides the corruption in this country is much more embedded than people think, removing one or more political parties won't solve the problem, what we need...and the only possible solution is too radical and drastic for people to ever accept within a democratic context. So I don't see much hope as people lack the constitution to do what needs to be done.
Blame the ANC and their BBBBBEEEEEE policy !!!!!!
Wowwow isn't it all Jan's fault haha
Recent strengthening of race based laws and NHI are just two very simple things that are going to accelerate this problem. I feel like this is the beauty of the free market. If the government plays stupid games then it’s going to win stupid prizes.
Well done ANC, you've done well in ruining this great country. Thank you for turning us into economic refugees.
I always thought that no matter where in the world I live that I'd end up coming back to help develop my people but at this rate, I don't see how is it worth it when the politicians only care about their pockets. The absolutely no confidence in the people.
My biggest thing is also safety. People aren't feeling safe in their own homes.
Do you blame them? I would, if I could afford it
Once I reach five years experience I'll also leave
Zimbabweans will replace them the government do not care.
Xenophobia here we come
Skilled people are leaving and criminals are coming in...
Parliament criminal
100% true
I think we would all leave if given the opportunity.
Many successes? Hell africa is a failed continent from cape point to cairo …. That being said why would the anc care that the policies they implement cause such harm?
I thought i was the only one leaving.
It doesn't work even for a lot black people, at this point it's really not about race. But things are just not functioning as they should at all !!
On my way out
Cant get a job here and affirmative action.
I had the same problem. left and settled in Australia. Best decision of my life and that of my family. If you can, get the hell out of that cesspit.
Get out if you can , it's a failed state
Difficult for businesses to train, create more employment when RSA is in a recession. 0.4% growth is not real growth.
Don't forget the fake degrees will also occupy the vacuum.
Those that have to stay will vote the ANC in again.
Fine intellect.
I made a conscious decision to stay in South Africa and make a contribution. I am an Engineer, highly qualified and experienced. I worked outside of South Africa for 15 years and became very wealthy as an executive... I returned to South Africa to retire (early). It has now become clear to me that there is not only no future in South Africa, but SA is actually on the cusp of a total collapse.... The tax base will collapse and almost disappear in the next 5 years. In addition, the uneducated majority (they are uneducated because of the criminal cartel called the ANC government) will continue to vote for this criminal cartel....
Then the DA elects a complete idiot as their leader... I know that all politicians are stupid, this is after all why they became politicians in the first place, but even amongst these idiots, he stands out....
Worlds most magnificent country reduced to sh*t.
Wonder how they are going to pay grants to these lazy people who don't make an effort to find work or start up little businesses.
Of all the bullshit I read on youtube...this idiot tops the list !!! Step one...go and read the difference between wealthy and rich !!! We are all rich !!!
Government is not the owner of others intellectual property. University officials work for banks and investors.
Thank u New South Africa thru ur ways this is happening now who wouldn't want to leave and live in s Functioning Country and yes other Countries have there problems but South Africa takes the Cake of everything wrong...
Nope, I am out of here. This place is done for, I will take my skill set to countries that deserve it. Thanks for the degree and experience SA, you gave me the opportunity to leave.
I have a Masters degee and relevant work experience to add value but I am struggling to get a job for over a year. My race isn't in my favour and soon I will have no choice but to leave SA. Government has nobody else to blame for brain drain other than themselves.
To be honest, there is no race in favor at all, it's only those who have connections, because the best are not hired or afforded opportunities.
@@robbiebanda9033 While that may be true, the reason given for many of my applications being rejected is that the organisation requires an individual of a certain race and I am not that race. Affirmative action and BEE targets are a big reason deserving candidates are not hired.
Me too I m at the airport queue amongst them.
Good luck
Go where you are appreciated! Send some cash bach to help your families. Do what you need to do for the future and your kids future! 💯 support initiatives like gift of the givers and afriforum back home! We have good people back... we are lead by morons though.
Don't forget to vote next year please before you leave.
No point ANC will cheat , another 5 years of hell...
When you leave, Vote for the ANC, so that we punish south africans that voted for them before.
This is the goal.
Migration has been there since the begining of time.
The world has Elon Musk due to migration.
We have many talented Africans willing to work and build their lives in SA.
Once we cannot attract the top African talent then we'll in trouble.
Well with standards of education in this country currently where it's at I don't see any incentive to enrich any of the African people in this country (in terms of actually giving them skills and education to improve their living standards). If you ask me the higher standards placed on the minority only makes us more qualified by default. Food for thought🤔.
Not like now. Take off your blinkers. Skilled leave less taxes to pay all these unnecessary grants. Grants for votes
Once , they all gone or on their last legs
I do have 2 children, Son and daughter who have university highly qualification Skills, i discourage them to go out of South Africa due to World unrest, no place is safe, and fortunately they are working never stay at home.
Too much white noise. Ga ba tsamaye. #I'mStaying.
SA is one of few countries where some its citizens leave the county when the country experiences difficulties - instead of toughing it out and fixing the problems. In the bigger scheme of things - it is not very many people that leave. You don't often hear of Americans leaving their country because of the continual mass shootings there. I had the opportunity of living and studying in the US - had zero intention of staying in that country permanently. Will always prefer SA. I am optimistic about the future of our country.
"it is not very many people that leave" are you kidding?? and the mass shootings that you mention affects small pockets of people, not entire populace. I suggest you remove your rose tinted glasses and see whats going on around you.
Yeah STAY and TUFF it out😂😂😂😂🤦♂🤦♂🤷♀🤷♀
Optimistic? What about?
you comparing a continent and a country
People could stay if there's hope but currently with alot going on like this they will definitely go
Yes, it's true the facilities are better in India. But one thing that keeps a South African Home, is Good service delivery. I think work on the service delivery. Spam call people to ask what to fix in their neighborhoods...
The solution is simple.Disband the ANC..ban all political parties except the DA .Let the DA run the country without apartheid laws for 15 years uninterrupted. Imagine the EFF as the rulling party. Just my silly suggestion
Could it be that the SKILLED people where shifted out and replaced with uneducated. ENERGY = POWER.
Good
Thanks Prof. Gumede, but will they ever listen?
No
The rand against the dollar was 3.42 in 1994. What happened ?
ANC
What was the rand against the dollar in 1980 compared to 1994?
@@BFlowz1 R0.69 to the dollar
@@shanaazabrahams1319 ooh so the rand has always lost some value against the dollar even during the glorious apartheid days?
New South Africa 👎🏻
I've applied to emigrate to Australia.
Looking forward to seeing you down under mate!
Every year you say THE SAME THING.
we are also looking to leave, have young kids needing to go to university soon and just not looking like this will even happen here being white. So sad but what do you do?
And the keep on voting for the ANC.
Voting for the ANC IS CRIMINAL
Don't stress you have Zimbabweans to fill up those spaces!
Ag nee wat, dis lekker om wit te wees in n swart man se land!
Jy het seker nie kinders wat nie werk kry agv velkleur nie....
Al die belasting-betalers en gekwalifiseerde mense gee pad...
En ek neem hulle nie kwalik nie....sou ook ,as ek jonger was....
Millions of Europeans migrated to the US , Canada, Australia and New zealand.
Stop sowing panick.
Actually black professionals are also leaving. We must stop believing its only the whites
I THINK U SHOULD STAY😂😂😂😂🤷♀🤷♀🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂
Stop sowing denial
What is the racist government expecting?
Two wrongs to make a right
Prof. Gumede is such a coconut lol. We’ll be fine. Stop panicking.
Why
Look to Zimbabwe as the template for this shitkole
Yeah I THINK You're Right😂😂😂😂🤦♂🤦♂
Only a woke black South African will call a qualified black professional a coconut because they are speaking a truth you dont like. You are part of the problem
Your insult sums it all up
@voetsekANC