Well, I've tested the LN / SR / TR range with the SA-5 (because of it's massive range) o) the LN has to be inside the SR range o) the SR has to be inside TR range that means you can place the SR/LN very far away indeed! (I placed them 135nmi apart and it still worked) BUT: it seems the need LoS. I haven't finished testing on that yet, but I've tried placing them in mountainous area and the LN wouldn't fire... Also: always place some Manpads, medium/short range SAM and AAA (SA-19 or M6) at the LN-, SR- and TR sites. cheers!
@@DCSChopsticks Yep, that's a real b1tch :P Esp. if you set the Range to 80%. The SA-5 takes a long while to lock on though... in a fast F-15 you're about half inside the radius of the LN range :-( And if you hit the deck, the SA-19 and Manpads will get you. Or you could also try and mask one SAM with another. Set the SA-5 with it's long range to "RED" and a more modern and deadly SA-10 (but with a shorter range) to AUTO (Off and triggers are even more unfair^^).
@@DCSChopsticks That's true; it'd be a good SEAD training mission though. But for that one would need to change the reload-time of the SAMs (when you place a truck near them), becuase that's way too fast! They'd knock down every Harm / ALCM :-(
Isnt there sam site templates already? are they just a matter of place and move as desired or do you have to set other things up like alert state in this vid? these bite sized vids are soo helpful man !! cheers
It is usually either: a missing unit like a radar, the SAM is blocked by terrain, the skill level of the SAM is too low or the launchers are too far from the radar (if you are spreading them out)
Why are there not pre-made unit groups for the various types of SAM sites. This idea of picking individual units seems overly tedious and requires one to be an expert in unit make-up. This should be simpler.
If I wanted to setup a SA6 only two options exist that say SA6. Do I need both? Do I need a truck? Its pretty ridiculous that I must waste this many hours to simply setup a working SA6. It's absurd actually. Why does DCS hate its customers so much?
Well, I've tested the LN / SR / TR range with the SA-5 (because of it's massive range)
o) the LN has to be inside the SR range
o) the SR has to be inside TR range
that means you can place the SR/LN very far away indeed! (I placed them 135nmi apart and it still worked)
BUT: it seems the need LoS. I haven't finished testing on that yet, but I've tried placing them in mountainous area and the LN wouldn't fire...
Also: always place some Manpads, medium/short range SAM and AAA (SA-19 or M6) at the LN-, SR- and TR sites.
cheers!
Super valuable feedback. Can you imagine the reeee of being shot down bu a SAM that you think is over 100 miles away 🤣
@@DCSChopsticks Yep, that's a real b1tch :P
Esp. if you set the Range to 80%. The SA-5 takes a long while to lock on though... in a fast F-15 you're about half inside the radius of the LN range :-(
And if you hit the deck, the SA-19 and Manpads will get you.
Or you could also try and mask one SAM with another.
Set the SA-5 with it's long range to "RED" and a more modern and deadly SA-10 (but with a shorter range) to AUTO (Off and triggers are even more unfair^^).
Making a SAM net with anti-radiaton missile triggers and aircraft type triggers is hilarious but cruel. Especially if its a one life mission 😬
@@DCSChopsticks That's true; it'd be a good SEAD training mission though. But for that one would need to change the reload-time of the SAMs (when you place a truck near them), becuase that's way too fast!
They'd knock down every Harm / ALCM :-(
LN you mean Launch Network?
Subscribed. Excellent new trick to *save template !.* Wow. That can be very a useful tool beyond creating sam sights !.
Thank you, templates are great. You can even deploy them with triggers, which is useful too.
thanks helped a lot a spawned a sa15 and I was wondering why isn’t it shooting now I know that I just have to set the alarm state
great tutorial !!
thanks
thanks for the tutorial helped alot
Isnt there sam site templates already? are they just a matter of place and move as desired or do you have to set other things up like alert state in this vid? these bite sized vids are soo helpful man !! cheers
There are some, but you need to check the skill levels and advanced instructions still as they are not set by default (until that gets patched please)
thank you!
Thanks that worked
I'm doing something wrong, for some reason, the sams won't shoot even though I put the alert on.
It is usually either: a missing unit like a radar, the SAM is blocked by terrain, the skill level of the SAM is too low or the launchers are too far from the radar (if you are spreading them out)
Superrrr
yes.... in dcs world...
What SAM site do you always worry about most when you see it on your RWR?
i always worry about the ones that don't show up on RWR
otherwise it depends on plane i'm flying and mission
Them IGLAs are a nightmare when you are loitering in a hostile area
@@DCSChopsticks yupp
When you know it’s coming for ya it is not as scary as when u know there is a manpad somewhere and the missle may allready be on its way
I worry about everything tracking me as I die alot
Why are there not pre-made unit groups for the various types of SAM sites. This idea of picking individual units seems overly tedious and requires one to be an expert in unit make-up. This should be simpler.
There are templates in the game. You can also download more from the DCS user files on the main website.
If I wanted to setup a SA6 only two options exist that say SA6. Do I need both? Do I need a truck?
Its pretty ridiculous that I must waste this many hours to simply setup a working SA6. It's absurd actually. Why does DCS hate its customers so much?
You will need at least 1 STR unit, and at least 1 launcher in the same group. Set the AI skill to at one of the two higher skill levels.
@@DCSChopsticks Thanks for the reply. I found the template for the SAs so I think Im good.