+SuperJonnyMario He meant that searching for that Pokemon is better the higher the scarch level. The search level DOES NOT AFFECT the chances of encountering a shiny. I think that's what he meant.
What I say in the Video and the Idea I agree with the Most is that using the dexnav in general gives you a higher chance of finding a shiny pokemon similar to friend safari in Pokemon X and Y.
WARNING: All methods of shiny hunting need patience. Learned that the hard way... Edit: I wrote this when I was like 13; how did it blow up like this?! XD
+KasaiRayquaza The chance doesn't increse much from 1/4k. Dunno what people are expecting besides it taking a long time lmao, if it was easy it'd not be interesting lmao
Wow after all these years he still replies to the comments, what a legend. Currently going for Guzzlord in Ultra Moon and then I’ll go for a dexnav shiny after. Great video by the way!
I just want to say this. My first ever legit shiny encounter was in oras and it was an Uxie! It was after my guitar concert at school, in the car with my dad going home with my 3ds about to die. I was freaking out and didn't know what to do then remembered I had a master ball :). So a little shot of advise, always save you masterball for emergencies
In my pokemon white game, I also got hold of a shiny kangaskhan same way, it was about to faint as I stupidly switched in chandelure thinking it can't touch me and it used crunch, flame body activated and had to use master ball 😊
Also, for deserts (havent tested caves and water, but i think it's the same), the pokemon will randomly choose 2 spots and move back and forth, sometimes staying in the same spot. THEY ONLY CHOOSE 2 SPOTS. I can't say that enough. So when you see them move, stay next to the spot they moved from. Then they'll come back and it's easy to catch them. If, however, you are too close to both spots, they will run away. Hope this helped.
Yeah and it took a fucking hell of a long time to get a shiny. Going for Mewtwo in Soul Silver and it's been about a month collectively. Ima be so pissed if Mewtwo isn't shiny locked in Gen 7.
YourLocalCancerShop Every Legendary will be available in Gen 7, just like every Legendary was available in Gen 6. If not in Sun and Moon, it'll be in the next gen 7 game.
Just as an update for anyone who needs it, we know now that dex nav chaining DOES affect the shiny chances, but ONLY on the 50th and 100th encounter. Any other part of the chain, your increased shiny odds are purely from your search level. What this means is that it probably is worth aiming for super high chains on grasslands and underwater since they’re relatively easy to maintain, while chaining in caves, desert, and surfing it’s not really worth chaining beyond just racking up the search level. Chain as far as you can, but don’t sweat it if it breaks. Also, if you’re using an emulator, a save state before the 50th or 100th encounter would be a good idea.
@@kaikathegreat2255 At a base level, yes. Bulbapedia says that the rate becomes 0.1%. However, you can further boost the chances if it’s the 50th (1.2%) or the 100th (2%) encounter of the chain.
Finally got it! Encounter 904, female at level 15! I had to use a Quick Ball because it learns teleport at level 9, and it doesn't have the best nature, but I'm still super stoked. I'm going to evolve it into Gardevoir and make it my shiny hunting Gardevoir!
In my own experience though, I've found it much easier to search for a pokemon when using a chain, and I've been getting overall much better IVs when doing chains, so either way I think chains would help in not only finding the shiny a bit faster, but making said shiny have better IVs as well
I got a shiny Ralts using the DexNav for the first time like early in game when helping Wally to get his Ralts, I couldn't believe it. And Ralts is pretty cool in shiny suit haha. Today it's a beautiful dark blue and orange Gallade, that is even cooler in mega ;)
The luckiest I ever got shiny hunting was finding a shiny electrike using the dex nav, after about, 6 encounters. Then, while looking for a shiny ponyta, finding a shiny machop after roughly 30 encounters, like, 20 minutes afterwards, with no chaining done. Bricks were shat that day.
I think the luckiest I’ve ever gotten with the dexnav was the time I got a shiny female eevee less than 20 encounters. Eevee has a 12.5% chance to be female
I found my first ever shiny while watching this video. I am not kidding. (Pancham, in X and Y.) I thank you. Everyone who has watched this video has brought me luck. I thank you.
Watching this video for the second time, I have caught a shiny Gothorita. Again, I thank everyone who has watched this video, and of course, Stephen for making it. You all have brought me luck.
I caught a shiny Eevee while watching this video!! I can agree that the chaining method doesn't matter. I got the search level up to 214 and it took me around 2-3 days of trying for only a few hours at a time. So awesome!!
THANK YOU for this. A detailed, purely factual and non-opinionated tutorial on the dex nav. That tip about jumping without scaring helped. The fact that you don't break shiny-chains, as shiny rate is fixed, is amazing. Some areas don't allow for long chains due to tight floor spaces (caves, specifically). And the bit about avoiding every 5th saved me. I can almost never catch those in caves. I think I've had 1200 RE's and a few 4-chains and 2-chains for Unown, but I went back to chaining and found a shiny K! A-OK!
I absolutely love the DexNav! It's super fun, and it gave me my first legit shiny ever in AS (Not counting the Pokemon that are always shiny like red Gyarados in G/S and HG/SS and Axew/Dratini in BW2) being a cute lil pink Slakoth ^-^
Thanks for this updated guide! Love it! I was scared of doing DexNav hunts in caves and while surfing since I always did the chain (so kill/catch) method, but this is way more convenient :) I just got a shiny Minccino while watching this video btw. Thanks again and keep up the good work! :D
Captain Gallade That's Fantastic! Yeah the Chaining method does work with the dexnav but the only plus is it really only helps get the extra level if you chain. The Run Away Method works Great for Caves,Water and the Desert.
SmkGaming05 Another thing I can't believe I din't figure out earlier was that pokémon in caves, desert and water follow a certain pattern but this still makes it pretty hard after a chain of 4. Btw did you already find that shiny Sandile you were looking for? I'm hunting one too atm :)
yeah trying to chain in cave,desert, and water gets really hard on the 5th of the chain and is just not worth the frustration. We never got the sandile. I found a Shiny Baltoy instead.
SmkGaming05 Yeah I saw that video :) Last week I did get two shiny Sandile and one of them I even caught live but unfortunately my camera froze so the video wasn't recorded...so I was really sad about that since it would by my very first live shiny encounter. I assume you have a capture card but do you know any other methods to record your 3DS nicely?
The level is dependant on the chain, It goes higher and higher every 5 encounters until 100, the resets to default lvls. All other aspects are dependant on the search lvl.
Thank you for being so clear. Watched a couple videos where they say "chaining doesn't matter!" but still go on and on about how important chaining is for catching shinies with the dex nav x_x
Something I learned from the Alpha Sapphire game about diving, when you catch Kyogre it can learn dive as it's a water type but, if you dive in an area where underwater trainers are they will be to scared of Kyogre to fight or talk to you but wild Pokemon will still challenge you though so watch out. Oh and contrary to what the internet says, your starter Pokemon is NOT shiny locked, just keep soft resetting and you'll eventually get one.
The first shiny I've ever found was Sneasel at a Friend Safari. I ended up killing him and didn't find another Sneasel in that Friend Safari again... :')
My first Friend Safari shiny was an Electrode. The VERY FIRST encounter, in the VERY FIRST patch of grass, and it was SHINY. Buuuuut... I ended up thinking that it had Self-Destruct in its moveset, so...I ended up using my Master Ball on it. I also have two 5% horde Shinies: Ekans to Arbok, and Taillow to Swellow. :)
@@linhardtvonhevring9752 my first Friend Safari shiny was also an Electrode. However, I gave my Master Ball to someone else as I was daring to do a Pokeball only run (I ended that a while ago tho) so I just caught it in a Dusk Ball, since it was night time
You should do another video on this topic, using the stuff that was found in the code of the game for Dexnav. The things like only chains at encounter 50 and 100 matter, and search level determining shiny rates. After 901 odds reach the maximum.
I need to thank-you for posting videos on how to work the DexNav. I didn't understand how to work it at all, and originally threw the idea off. But after watching this, it helped completely. I encountered, and finally caught, a Shiny Wurmple the other day, and I wouldn't have gotten him so soon if it wasn't for you. So thank-you very much. I now find this way of hunting very fun. (Though I will do other methods, too. Mainly SR and MM). But there are so many different choices, I don't know which Pokemon to hunt next. xD
6 year late, but here is the general gist of the shiny odds: first the search level determinds the base shiny odds. the higher the better! then the game does rolls and looks if one of them says "its a shiny!". if one says its a shiny it IS a shiny. one base roll +2 from shiny charm +5 for a chain of 50-99 +10 for a chain of 100+ +4 at random (4% chance) max odds (seach lvl 999 and 17 rolls): 1:38 (rounded up)
Well, now I feel silly for being so careful about chaining Oddishes. But I keep doing chains anyway for increased levels and stuff anyway. I don't see a point in running. I just want to hunt. It gives me a break from being a Pokemon Breeder.
I just caught a shiny Ralts thnx to Dexnav. It has a Brave nature ( a little less speed), but increased attack stat. Random encounters: 37 (no cheating)
Using the DexNav is so annoying, especially in caves. Can't find any Pokemon... Can't find any... Can't find any... Oh look! It spawned and moved around too quickly for you to get to it without scaring it, and then it ran away.
@@icymiles Nope. It's actually hard. To add to what he said, if you're standing where it would've popped up the pokemon will run away, adding another layer of bs.
8 years later, I'd like to let you know this is still super helpful! Me and my friends are doing a game from each generation from red/blue to scarlet/violet with a different challenge each game as an interesting way to replay them. I'm on ORAS now trying to do a shiny badge challenge, must find 1 shiny before each badge.
Several years later, until now i had always thought I had used the Dex Nav wrong when I hunted my Shiny Absol, Warning. Apparently I wasn't doing it wrong, I was just running away lol. Looking at this video makes me want to do that full Shiny Playthrough I've been thinking about and doing it in ORAS. Perhaps I should do it.
12:00 what's he talking about dex nav steps...? I literally just finish my battles, don't even move. Not even 1 single step, and immediately start searching again and I have never once failed.. It will immediately find the same pokemon I'm searching for and then I go encounter it. There is no risk of the dex nav finding another pokemon because I literally never move inbetween searches.. I don't know why he is so adamant about returning to some sort of "middle ground" spot. You don't have to move at all. Unless it was updated or something.
I dont know. I think for the ones in the grass, which stay immobile until their internal timer runs out, is ok. But the ones that constantly move around (caves and/or while surfing), chaining does have an effect. Just earlier, was surf chaining for Skrelp for at least a 2 ☆☆ with Adaptability, and after each encounter, they'll pop up 100% of the time, and after the fifth chain, they begin to move quicker (darting after ~1.2 sec) and they gain a +1 to all successive encounters (so they went from 25 to 26). Unfortunately broke it after the 10th chain only, but there does seem to be an immediate effect. Please test and verify.
Caught my first (intentional) shiny at the 8 minute mark of this video!! So happy!! Basically, I got nostalgic and missed my OR party so I brought my old 2DS out to play with them when I realized I was on Mt. Pyre and remembered I was trying to chain for a shiny Vulpix last time I played. So I went right back to that. Opened youtube on my laptop, just watched a few funny vids, was feeling bored and unsure if I was hunting the right way so I opened up this video, I'd seen it a couple times before. I guess even if my chain doesn't matter I was hunting right because there's my very own hard earned shiny Vulpix! Thanks for the video. Now I guess begins my journey to make up for when I accidentally ran from a shiny magnemite as a kid.
I managed to get 5 shiny pokemon using previous "chaining" method, but based on this video it's just all about the encounters. I tried the "run away" method and found it more tedious with encountering the pokemon I search for every other pokemon. Meaning it's a A, B, A, B encounter in my experience. That was just too numbing. Gonna experiment with building a chain of 10 and running away from 10th encounter to reset levels to keep the pokemon level low. Not to mention, I'll run into about 10 encounters before having to hop on the bike to resume searching. I'll even have a tally counting down from 512 since that's the number all around sites. It's all about doing what you need to to just make it a fun experience and psychologically motivating. =D
Finally a guide that makes sense and is likely correct (from my experience too; others said you always need to chain a lot)! And with a demonstration too. Thanks. :)
My strategy was fainted synchro ralts on front followed by absol with false swipe, thief and taunt, thief is pretty good when the pokemon you are looking for can have held itens, just kill it with thief and farm some free itens, absol is pretty good also because of crits
I remember on the first route I shiny hunted for a zorua got one at 600 encounters, went to the Pokemon center, and then came back and just searched one more time and got two shinies in a row 😱 Also I never had to use my acro bike unless that fucking kid ran into my zorua, but now in the grass randomly I can't find anymore, why is that?
+Adelo Belo unlike you , i actually have things to do . 5 hours is really long . And Im just grinding for one till i get one . i actually got mine at 407 encounters 2 weeks ago
So, I was using the DexNav to hunt for a shiny Golbat in Sorched Slab because on the second floor all you can run into is zubat's and golbat's so I figured I'd have an easier time to get one of those. After having watched your first video while chaining, I realized that there was something more to shiny hunting than you discussed in the video. Then my browser opened up this video and everything I was encountering in the cave (the dust cloud, the fifth pokemon being hard as hell to encounter, the fact that sometimes the pokemon will run away when you're not even moving) were all explained. Thank you for this video, because I was starting to get very frustrated. XD I'll keep using the dex nav to hunt for pokemon, but now that it sounds like there's possibly a fixed rate, I might not hunt for golbat anymore and spend my time on a pokemon that I like a little better.
BanananaBatman Finally got my shiny zubat using horde method after 5 hours without a shiny charm. :DD Now back to working on hatching my shiny vulpix using Matsuda Method. Blegh.
Starting my first play through of Oras just soft reset for a week straight for Mudkip finally got him!! Want to have an all shiny team so got a lot of farming to do !
I'm at 881 encounters and no shiny ralts :( I keep breaking my chain tho as I just restarted the game and got no repels, guess that doesn't matter tho :>
I've never encountered a shiny pokemon in my 8 years of playing pokemon. I've tried every method of finding shinies and have never succeeded. Hopefully this video will help me get my first shiny ever. (I'm going for Zorua who've I've encountered hundreds of times.) I could use some shiny luck! Btw I love your stream man, keep up the good work.
Quick question if anyone has an answer. I've been using the dexnav for a while and I noticed something that I couldn; quite figure out. Occasionally I'll se a mark (exclamation point) above the pokemons sillouhette before encountering it. I know it has nothing to do with moves or abilities because of where it's placed. But sometimes the mark isn't there. Does anyone know what it means? I can't figure it out.
+Keyboardkat3 The ! is For Pokemon that are not Native to Hoenn or Special Pokemon that have Egg Moves, Held Items, Good Potential. It has nothing to do with Shiny Pokemon.
Having never catching a Buneary before and transferring my Lopunny over from X, I successfully caught a shiny Lv. 43 Buneary with 2 perfect Ev's after 13 Encounters X3 I named her Beth after Beth from The Walking Dead
I started playing omega ruby like 5 days ago, but i did nothing but soft resetting for a shiny treecko(Took me 5 days to find that muthafakka)Yesterday i finally found it, now i'm tryin' to dexnav a zigzagoon.
omjesus thank you so much smk, i've been finding shines like crazy since i watched this video (four days ago) i've found literally 15 pokemon within the last 4 days, i'm not lying at all, i think the video broke my game lol XD
great video and very useful tips for shiny hunting for which I thank you, but you do know you are saying acrobike wrong. It is acro as in acrobat, not arcro!
I disagree about the "5th chain increases shiny odds" because I've found Lv 10 increased pokemon via Dex Nav from Encounters and NOT chains. For example I was about to Dex Nav for Poocheyena and after a few encounters I remembered that Poocheyena also appears in hordes. I tried a horde encounter and then remembered zigzagoon (I don't need another shiny Zigzagoon) so I went back to Dex Naving and the 1st Poocheyena was Lv 12 with 3 Star potential and an egg move (i think it was Ice Fang) but any way not sure if this is significant but I just wanted to give my opinion and what I thought of it. Thanks for another great video Stephen!!
MrGamecube17 I was Never a Fan of the whole 5th of a Chain Increase of a Shiny Pokemon. Just Thought I'd Mention it in the Video so People knew about it even though I don't Think it is a thing at all.
ive been in a chain of 20-25 and then i encoutered one again and after 1 sec it said ran away?!? didnt even got a chance. what does this mean and all??
Chains Actually help a lot when shiny hunting. Chains make it easier to find the Pokemon again, give a chance for it to have it's hidden ability, and can give it up to 3 perfect IVs
+Matthew Krahm Chains only help get better chance at getting the pokemon again fast. The Better Stats and everything comes from the Search Level for that pokemon you are looking for.
...No chain?
NO CHAIN!?
FREEDOM!
Jude's guide to games No Chain! =)
Chaining does not help, also search level does not help with finding a shiny either.
+SuperJonnyMario He meant that searching for that Pokemon is better the higher the scarch level. The search level DOES NOT AFFECT the chances of encountering a shiny. I think that's what he meant.
What I say in the Video and the Idea I agree with the Most is that using the dexnav in general gives you a higher chance of finding a shiny pokemon similar to friend safari in Pokemon X and Y.
+Jude's guide to games Well frick I've been worrying about nothing for 2 hours when I was searching for a stupid Venomoth
For those who are just as impatient as I am and simply want to see his method: 10:50
thanks a ton
thanx
Baghnal lol a bit of an ironic thing to be impatient about huh?
Baghnal B
Thanks bro
WARNING: All methods of shiny hunting need patience. Learned that the hard way...
Edit: I wrote this when I was like 13; how did it blow up like this?! XD
+KasaiRayquaza Someone who understands
+Matthew Edmunds My goodness, I relate..
+KasaiRayquaza The chance doesn't increse much from 1/4k. Dunno what people are expecting besides it taking a long time lmao, if it was easy it'd not be interesting lmao
I was going to get a zubat, 2nd encounter a shiny carbink.
+KasaiRayquaza patience? i have shinies, legendaries, HA perf IV pokemon..
i dont have ANY patience
My first shiny in ORAS was a Ditto after 35 encounters with dexnav. The feeling I got had me hooked on shiny hunting after that
Lil'Eevee mine was a shiny Altaria in pkmn ultra moon, but my first shiny with a method was slowpoke in pkmn x
My first one is graveler in soul silver and he killed him self but i hatch shiny trapinch in XY
My first shiny was Poochyena after 7 encounters. Now I'm looking for a Shroomish now at 134 encounters.
Rowlet The grass owl 😂😂😂
My first shiny was a zubat in Pokémon ruby
Wow after all these years he still replies to the comments, what a legend. Currently going for Guzzlord in Ultra Moon and then I’ll go for a dexnav shiny after. Great video by the way!
Good luck 🤩
I just want to say this. My first ever legit shiny encounter was in oras and it was an Uxie! It was after my guitar concert at school, in the car with my dad going home with my 3ds about to die. I was freaking out and didn't know what to do then remembered I had a master ball :). So a little shot of advise, always save you masterball for emergencies
In my pokemon white game, I also got hold of a shiny kangaskhan same way, it was about to faint as I stupidly switched in chandelure thinking it can't touch me and it used crunch, flame body activated and had to use master ball 😊
i already use my masterball
@@Abyssal_Remedy gotta win the lottery then
for me it was azelf, 70 odd soft resets and it was on the day i had a therapist appointment i think xD
Also, for deserts (havent tested caves and water, but i think it's the same), the pokemon will randomly choose 2 spots and move back and forth, sometimes staying in the same spot. THEY ONLY CHOOSE 2 SPOTS. I can't say that enough. So when you see them move, stay next to the spot they moved from. Then they'll come back and it's easy to catch them. If, however, you are too close to both spots, they will run away. Hope this helped.
Oval charm: complete the hoenn pokedex
Shiny charm: complete the national pokedex
UberMonarchYGO NOOOO
Incorrect, SEE all pokemon in the hoenn dex
WHAT DOES THE OVAL CHARM DO?!!!!
Temmie 246 I think eggs appear more often
Oval=see all hoenn mons
Shiny=catch all hoenn mobs excluding event mobs such as jirachi
Remember when dexnavving and horde hunting wasn't a thing? Pepperidge farm remembers.
Yeah and it took a fucking hell of a long time to get a shiny. Going for Mewtwo in Soul Silver and it's been about a month collectively. Ima be so pissed if Mewtwo isn't shiny locked in Gen 7.
Joshua Street Is Mewtwo even gonna be in Gen 7?
YourLocalCancerShop Every Legendary will be available in Gen 7, just like every Legendary was available in Gen 6. If not in Sun and Moon, it'll be in the next gen 7 game.
YourLocalCancerShop fuck no
i member!
how to use the dexnav tutorial starts at 10:33
THANK YOUUUU
5 years later and I miss the DexNav.
Just as an update for anyone who needs it, we know now that dex nav chaining DOES affect the shiny chances, but ONLY on the 50th and 100th encounter. Any other part of the chain, your increased shiny odds are purely from your search level.
What this means is that it probably is worth aiming for super high chains on grasslands and underwater since they’re relatively easy to maintain, while chaining in caves, desert, and surfing it’s not really worth chaining beyond just racking up the search level. Chain as far as you can, but don’t sweat it if it breaks.
Also, if you’re using an emulator, a save state before the 50th or 100th encounter would be a good idea.
So if I have a search lvl of 999 it's the max odds? (and i dont have the charm)
@@kaikathegreat2255 At a base level, yes. Bulbapedia says that the rate becomes 0.1%. However, you can further boost the chances if it’s the 50th (1.2%) or the 100th (2%) encounter of the chain.
So you say emulator but could I save on my 3ds on the 49th then load back up on the 50th
@@kremitsuicide3265 Chains break when you reload.
So specifically only on the 50th and 100th encounter? Or any chain encounters after 50 and 100 will be further boosted?
I am approaching my 800th Ralts encountered, no shiny. I'm apparently unlucky.
I found my Shiny Kakuna on 1637 Encounters, If that helps.
It is truly soul-crushing. But I will prevail.
You got this! Im also shiny hunting for the same pokemon ;v;
Finally got it! Encounter 904, female at level 15! I had to use a Quick Ball because it learns teleport at level 9, and it doesn't have the best nature, but I'm still super stoked. I'm going to evolve it into Gardevoir and make it my shiny hunting Gardevoir!
+Noise Pollution Congratulations!
I did not know different Pokemon had different surf speeds. Sharpedo is so cute :o
2024 anyone??
@@archanasahu4445 no
Me “ i am here because i want to shiny hunt in pokemon emerald seaglass 😅”
Yes!!!
@@archanasahu4445 tryna shiny hunt surskit
Yes playing it right now
In my own experience though, I've found it much easier to search for a pokemon when using a chain, and I've been getting overall much better IVs when doing chains, so either way I think chains would help in not only finding the shiny a bit faster, but making said shiny have better IVs as well
I got a shiny Ralts using the DexNav for the first time like early in game when helping Wally to get his Ralts, I couldn't believe it. And Ralts is pretty cool in shiny suit haha. Today it's a beautiful dark blue and orange Gallade, that is even cooler in mega ;)
Working on that same goal right now, how many encounters did it take. Rn i'm on 106
@@frenziediolite If I remember right (7 y ago now lol) it was just like 10 tries. Really fast. Thanks for your comment.
@@douglasmello6567 don't be a hater!😵💫
I WAS HUNTING ALL DAY FOR ZORUA AND FINALLY FOUND IT WHILE WATCHING THE VIDEO!!!
Bruh can we respect the fact that this video is 5 years old and he is still liking comments
Anyone here in 2023? ORAS is a classic imo!
The luckiest I ever got shiny hunting was finding a shiny electrike using the dex nav, after about, 6 encounters. Then, while looking for a shiny ponyta, finding a shiny machop after roughly 30 encounters, like, 20 minutes afterwards, with no chaining done. Bricks were shat that day.
The luckiest ive ever gotten with shiny hunting was a shiny Absol on my first ever encounter with the Pokémon
I think the luckiest I’ve ever gotten with the dexnav was the time I got a shiny female eevee less than 20 encounters. Eevee has a 12.5% chance to be female
My first ever pokemon starter was a shiny and i didnt realize till a few days later lol
The luckiest I ever got with a shiny was a random encounter shiny magikarp after fishing once just to see what I would get.
Finally i don't have to faint every pokemon anymore. Thanks it's help, i will try this method
I found my first ever shiny while watching this video. I am not kidding. (Pancham, in X and Y.) I thank you. Everyone who has watched this video has brought me luck. I thank you.
Watching this video for the second time, I have caught a shiny Gothorita. Again, I thank everyone who has watched this video, and of course, Stephen for making it. You all have brought me luck.
+Moon Fang lol
+Neo Deltå 👍😅
+Moon Fang Why were you shiny hunting in XY while watching a shiny hunting video for ORAS? xD
+Eva Boeglin Because no one said I couldn't and I didn't have my Omega Ruby version until a couple of weeks after posting that comment.
I caught a shiny Eevee while watching this video!! I can agree that the chaining method doesn't matter. I got the search level up to 214 and it took me around 2-3 days of trying for only a few hours at a time. So awesome!!
I’m at 328 for a skitty. It seems so easy and hard. 😭
meanwhile i managed to get one in under 50! really is just a tossup
THANK YOU for this. A detailed, purely factual and non-opinionated tutorial on the dex nav.
That tip about jumping without scaring helped.
The fact that you don't break shiny-chains, as shiny rate is fixed, is amazing. Some areas don't allow for long chains due to tight floor spaces (caves, specifically).
And the bit about avoiding every 5th saved me. I can almost never catch those in caves.
I think I've had 1200 RE's and a few 4-chains and 2-chains for Unown, but I went back to chaining and found a shiny K! A-OK!
I absolutely love the DexNav! It's super fun, and it gave me my first legit shiny ever in AS (Not counting the Pokemon that are always shiny like red Gyarados in G/S and HG/SS and Axew/Dratini in BW2) being a cute lil pink Slakoth ^-^
BananaTassium I got a shiny lilligant and I'm working on trying to get a ralts to get myself a shiny gardevoir
All these people are talking about average first shinies.
mine was a magikarp. *a fucking magikarp*
lol mine was a sandshrew,I was so confused when it couldn't evolve with a shiny stone!
Get him to evole hes a beast
+The Icehawk Mine was a Wailmer.
same bro
+Icehawk “Icehawk” mine was a grimer lol
Thanks for this updated guide! Love it!
I was scared of doing DexNav hunts in caves and while surfing since I always did the chain (so kill/catch) method, but this is way more convenient :)
I just got a shiny Minccino while watching this video btw.
Thanks again and keep up the good work! :D
Captain Gallade That's Fantastic! Yeah the Chaining method does work with the dexnav but the only plus is it really only helps get the extra level if you chain. The Run Away Method works Great for Caves,Water and the Desert.
SmkGaming05 Another thing I can't believe I din't figure out earlier was that pokémon in caves, desert and water follow a certain pattern but this still makes it pretty hard after a chain of 4. Btw did you already find that shiny Sandile you were looking for? I'm hunting one too atm :)
yeah trying to chain in cave,desert, and water gets really hard on the 5th of the chain and is just not worth the frustration. We never got the sandile. I found a Shiny Baltoy instead.
SmkGaming05 Yeah I saw that video :) Last week I did get two shiny Sandile and one of them I even caught live but unfortunately my camera froze so the video wasn't recorded...so I was really sad about that since it would by my very first live shiny encounter. I assume you have a capture card but do you know any other methods to record your 3DS nicely?
you can record with a nice webcam but that is the closest way you'll get for decent quality.
The level is dependant on the chain, It goes higher and higher every 5 encounters until 100, the resets to default lvls. All other aspects are dependant on the search lvl.
Thank you for being so clear. Watched a couple videos where they say "chaining doesn't matter!" but still go on and on about how important chaining is for catching shinies with the dex nav x_x
Something I learned from the Alpha Sapphire game about diving, when you catch Kyogre it can learn dive as it's a water type but, if you dive in an area where underwater trainers are they will be to scared of Kyogre to fight or talk to you but wild Pokemon will still challenge you though so watch out. Oh and contrary to what the internet says, your starter Pokemon is NOT shiny locked, just keep soft resetting and you'll eventually get one.
The first shiny I've ever found was Sneasel at a Friend Safari. I ended up killing him and didn't find another Sneasel in that Friend Safari again... :')
My first shiny was a freaking Foongus...
I got a wild darumaka. The poop Pokemon. //I got my second shiny yesterday, it was an eevee, now it's a sylveon!
+DaniKoi P Tebs they made it impossible to find that shiny poochyena at the beginning in ORAS, so either your lying or your thinking of the originals
My first Friend Safari shiny was an Electrode. The VERY FIRST encounter, in the VERY FIRST patch of grass, and it was SHINY.
Buuuuut...
I ended up thinking that it had Self-Destruct in its moveset, so...I ended up using my Master Ball on it.
I also have two 5% horde Shinies: Ekans to Arbok, and Taillow to Swellow. :)
@@linhardtvonhevring9752 my first Friend Safari shiny was also an Electrode. However, I gave my Master Ball to someone else as I was daring to do a Pokeball only run (I ended that a while ago tho) so I just caught it in a Dusk Ball, since it was night time
You should do another video on this topic, using the stuff that was found in the code of the game for Dexnav. The things like only chains at encounter 50 and 100 matter, and search level determining shiny rates. After 901 odds reach the maximum.
I need to thank-you for posting videos on how to work the DexNav. I didn't understand how to work it at all, and originally threw the idea off. But after watching this, it helped completely.
I encountered, and finally caught, a Shiny Wurmple the other day, and I wouldn't have gotten him so soon if it wasn't for you. So thank-you very much. I now find this way of hunting very fun. (Though I will do other methods, too. Mainly SR and MM).
But there are so many different choices, I don't know which Pokemon to hunt next. xD
Misty the Eevee Spirit Glad to help =)
6 year late, but here is the general gist of the shiny odds:
first the search level determinds the base shiny odds. the higher the better!
then the game does rolls and looks if one of them says "its a shiny!". if one says its a shiny it IS a shiny.
one base roll
+2 from shiny charm
+5 for a chain of 50-99
+10 for a chain of 100+
+4 at random (4% chance)
max odds (seach lvl 999 and 17 rolls): 1:38 (rounded up)
Well, now I feel silly for being so careful about chaining Oddishes.
But I keep doing chains anyway for increased levels and stuff anyway. I don't see a point in running. I just want to hunt. It gives me a break from being a Pokemon Breeder.
I just caught a shiny Ralts thnx to Dexnav.
It has a Brave nature ( a little less speed), but increased attack stat.
Random encounters: 37 (no cheating)
Lucky, I've been using the dexnav for hours now, still no shiny Ralts
Marina Hiyhart once I get the Dawn stone I'll let him evolve
Using the DexNav is so annoying, especially in caves.
Can't find any Pokemon... Can't find any... Can't find any... Oh look! It spawned and moved around too quickly for you to get to it without scaring it, and then it ran away.
RogerWazup007 that’s your fault buddly
And then you're interrupted by a zubat
@@jazzmcdurf659 you can use max repels
It just sounds like your bad at it
@@icymiles Nope. It's actually hard. To add to what he said, if you're standing where it would've popped up the pokemon will run away, adding another layer of bs.
8 years later, I'd like to let you know this is still super helpful!
Me and my friends are doing a game from each generation from red/blue to scarlet/violet with a different challenge each game as an interesting way to replay them.
I'm on ORAS now trying to do a shiny badge challenge, must find 1 shiny before each badge.
Well, I once had to look for over level 999 for Clamperl to find a shiny one.
Several years later, until now i had always thought I had used the Dex Nav wrong when I hunted my Shiny Absol, Warning. Apparently I wasn't doing it wrong, I was just running away lol. Looking at this video makes me want to do that full Shiny Playthrough I've been thinking about and doing it in ORAS. Perhaps I should do it.
I think the search level may make a difference with the odds, so I recommend doing horse encounters to make it higher.
I have been doing that chain method for ages now. I am so glad I will be able to shiny hunt elsewhere now with this much better method thanks ^^
+MidnightKittehBoi Dexnav is a Flat Rate so just Dexnav Encounter as much as you can.
SmkGaming05 I followed just that advice to my own shiny unown ^^
That is Awesome!
12:00 what's he talking about dex nav steps...? I literally just finish my battles, don't even move. Not even 1 single step, and immediately start searching again and I have never once failed.. It will immediately find the same pokemon I'm searching for and then I go encounter it. There is no risk of the dex nav finding another pokemon because I literally never move inbetween searches.. I don't know why he is so adamant about returning to some sort of "middle ground" spot. You don't have to move at all. Unless it was updated or something.
I dont know. I think for the ones in the grass, which stay immobile until their internal timer runs out, is ok. But the ones that constantly move around (caves and/or while surfing), chaining does have an effect.
Just earlier, was surf chaining for Skrelp for at least a 2 ☆☆ with Adaptability, and after each encounter, they'll pop up 100% of the time, and after the fifth chain, they begin to move quicker (darting after ~1.2 sec) and they gain a +1 to all successive encounters (so they went from 25 to 26). Unfortunately broke it after the 10th chain only, but there does seem to be an immediate effect. Please test and verify.
Your last video helped me get my shiny poochyena
This is my second video on shiny hunting and there's sooooo much info I had no idea about
Anyone still plays oras
Of course, it's still the best modern Pokemon game
Me!
Yes
Yes 😂
@@abe1996 hell yeah
for someone like me going back to a bunch of older pokemon games to shiny hunt, stuff like this is extremely useful!! tysm!
thank you for your video! found and caught my first shiny vulpix which i have been farming for about 13hrs, named it after you.
well that explains why I can't find a shiny absol XD
-I finally got that shiny eevee-
oh hey if you see this. I think you don't but if hunted for shiny a long time like 2 or 3 days.
Seriously ARCRO bike? It is ACRO, like acrobatic...
trust me I know. I've been told many times. Can't fix the video.
Tyler douuuuuche.
@@impIicit Nice necro
natgrace05 necro like philiac? or does necro have a specific meaning?
natgrace05 ohhhh. thanks for explaining. :)
I got a full odds shiny magnemite in new mauville and I was not even trying to find one
Caught my first (intentional) shiny at the 8 minute mark of this video!! So happy!!
Basically, I got nostalgic and missed my OR party so I brought my old 2DS out to play with them when I realized I was on Mt. Pyre and remembered I was trying to chain for a shiny Vulpix last time I played. So I went right back to that. Opened youtube on my laptop, just watched a few funny vids, was feeling bored and unsure if I was hunting the right way so I opened up this video, I'd seen it a couple times before. I guess even if my chain doesn't matter I was hunting right because there's my very own hard earned shiny Vulpix! Thanks for the video. Now I guess begins my journey to make up for when I accidentally ran from a shiny magnemite as a kid.
I managed to get 5 shiny pokemon using previous "chaining" method, but based on this video it's just all about the encounters. I tried the "run away" method and found it more tedious with encountering the pokemon I search for every other pokemon. Meaning it's a A, B, A, B encounter in my experience.
That was just too numbing. Gonna experiment with building a chain of 10 and running away from 10th encounter to reset levels to keep the pokemon level low. Not to mention, I'll run into about 10 encounters before having to hop on the bike to resume searching. I'll even have a tally counting down from 512 since that's the number all around sites.
It's all about doing what you need to to just make it a fun experience and psychologically motivating. =D
+Dloner00 Dexnav is just a Fixed Rate. How you get the Encounters to happen is up to you.
*me trying to get shiny ralts*
Me: WHEN WILL I GET THIIIISSSS
A shiny Ralts just used teleport
*(cries internally)*
Did you use this method to get it? (I’m hunting one in oras and desperate)
I just kept using the Dexnav for 7 days in a row to find a shiny one, but it escaped from a quick ball and teleported away
D oof
D i feel u man
Every time I played trough platinum I had a shiny Gardevoir on my team but in Oras they keep using memento or teleport
Even know this game is old it's still fun so thx for the information about the dex nav no I can shiny hunt for ralts
Facts oras is so fun
Finally a guide that makes sense and is likely correct (from my experience too; others said you always need to chain a lot)! And with a demonstration too. Thanks. :)
LuigiPlayer Chain or No Chain you will find a shiny pokemon from dexnav. Just gotta put the work in.
My strategy was fainted synchro ralts on front followed by absol with false swipe, thief and taunt, thief is pretty good when the pokemon you are looking for can have held itens, just kill it with thief and farm some free itens, absol is pretty good also because of crits
I remember on the first route I shiny hunted for a zorua got one at 600 encounters, went to the Pokemon center, and then came back and just searched one more time and got two shinies in a row 😱
Also I never had to use my acro bike unless that fucking kid ran into my zorua, but now in the grass randomly I can't find anymore, why is that?
im watching your video and been hunting for a shiny onix for about an hour and a half.. and bOOM.. it appeared. thank you (high 5)
IVE BEEN HUNTING FOR 5 GHOURS STRAIGHT AND IM STILL AT 262 ;-;
only 262 ? get out xD
+Adelo Belo unlike you , i actually have things to do . 5 hours is really long . And Im just grinding for one till i get one . i actually got mine at 407 encounters 2 weeks ago
High five
First shiny I ever got chaining was Horsea
I was watching this and a delivery man knocked on the door, id just encountered it, I came back and she was shiny!! I think your video was good luck.
I'm considering a Shinylocke in ORAS and this tutorial is super helpful! Thanks my dude!
Good luck ✨
I didn’t even know what a shiny was and I accidentally found a shiny carvanha and now I just keep trying to get more shinies
Took me 127 times to get a shiny zorua
The chain method is extremely inconsistent from what I've experienced. I once had a 20 chain with a Poochyena, but I had a 150 chain with the Vulpix.
It's not a fore sure method do you understand what rng?
I got a random 1 chain for a Magby on a mirage island... ^_^’
So, I was using the DexNav to hunt for a shiny Golbat in Sorched Slab because on the second floor all you can run into is zubat's and golbat's so I figured I'd have an easier time to get one of those. After having watched your first video while chaining, I realized that there was something more to shiny hunting than you discussed in the video. Then my browser opened up this video and everything I was encountering in the cave (the dust cloud, the fifth pokemon being hard as hell to encounter, the fact that sometimes the pokemon will run away when you're not even moving) were all explained. Thank you for this video, because I was starting to get very frustrated. XD I'll keep using the dex nav to hunt for pokemon, but now that it sounds like there's possibly a fixed rate, I might not hunt for golbat anymore and spend my time on a pokemon that I like a little better.
BanananaBatman Finally got my shiny zubat using horde method after 5 hours without a shiny charm. :DD Now back to working on hatching my shiny vulpix using Matsuda Method. Blegh.
BanananaBatman Congrats on the Shiny and I'm Glad I could Help! =)
Starting my first play through of Oras just soft reset for a week straight for Mudkip finally got him!! Want to have an all shiny team so got a lot of farming to do !
Got a shiny Ralts and shiny Surskit like this.
I'm on a chain of 1000 and still no shiny ralts
+Kate Zoe nope
got 100 chain then i stopped, after the 12th chain i got the shiny ralts, weird
+Harrison Oliveros lucky
I'm at 881 encounters and no shiny ralts :(
I keep breaking my chain tho as I just restarted the game and got no repels, guess that doesn't matter tho :>
400 sandshrew searches, no shiny yet! I wont give up!
I've never encountered a shiny pokemon in my 8 years of playing pokemon. I've tried every method of finding shinies and have never succeeded. Hopefully this video will help me get my first shiny ever. (I'm going for Zorua who've I've encountered hundreds of times.)
I could use some shiny luck! Btw I love your stream man, keep up the good work.
Try the fishing method. Its the easiest method. I found like 10 shiny pokemon in less then 2 weeks. Try it
Ok thx! :)
Welcome. I just caught a shiny feebas right now.
Ben Morris Good luck with the shiny hunting!
Doing a playthrough where I can only catch shiny pokemon. Just got a shiny Treecko, so this video helps a lot
Hey SmkGaming05 I was just watching this video because I love your videos, but you taught me a lot about Dex-Naving Thanks :D
BassTheGamer Glad to help!
Quick question if anyone has an answer. I've been using the dexnav for a while and I noticed something that I couldn; quite figure out. Occasionally I'll se a mark (exclamation point) above the pokemons sillouhette before encountering it. I know it has nothing to do with moves or abilities because of where it's placed. But sometimes the mark isn't there. Does anyone know what it means? I can't figure it out.
+Keyboardkat3 The ! is For Pokemon that are not Native to Hoenn or Special Pokemon that have Egg Moves, Held Items, Good Potential. It has nothing to do with Shiny Pokemon.
Yes, if the exclamation point is above the silhouette, then it is not native to Hoenn. (Ex: Zorua, Lillipup, Aipom, and the like)
As I was watching this I was horde hunting and got a shiny zigzagoon :)
Noice :)
I got my shiny zigzagoon with horde too a little while ago.
I've been hunting shiny ralts for 3 days
My luck is terrible ;(
Same!!!
I found one in 2 episodes of Jojo's Bizarre Adventure
Weeks
Ceezi I got it In 2 encounters today
Thanks!, even the fact that this 9 years video you save me 🐸🔥
Having never catching a Buneary before and transferring my Lopunny over from X, I successfully caught a shiny Lv. 43 Buneary with 2 perfect Ev's after 13 Encounters X3
I named her Beth after Beth from The Walking Dead
I started playing omega ruby like 5 days ago, but i did nothing but soft resetting for a shiny treecko(Took me 5 days to find that muthafakka)Yesterday i finally found it, now i'm tryin' to dexnav a zigzagoon.
+Agüero El Kun Great Job! :D
SmkGaming05 thank you a lot :D by i still can't find a shiny zigzagoon ç_ç
Keep Trying!
SmkGaming05 ok ;) btw, are you 100% sure i don't need to chain??
You can Chain if you want, But it does not Increase your Odds of a shiny.
How to get the OVAL CHARM & SHINY CHARM in Pokemon X/Y & Pokemon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire
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acro, not arcro
I found 2 shiny's in 1 day by using shiny charm and sweet scent
This is your vid come on dam
cc
SmkGaming05 I
Who’s here 7 years later going back to oras cause you finished legend’s Arceus 🤣
omjesus thank you so much smk, i've been finding shines like crazy since i watched this video (four days ago) i've found literally 15 pokemon within the last 4 days, i'm not lying at all, i think the video broke my game lol XD
Just got my first shiny at time 1:48 of this video.
Cool
Once I found a shiny feebass on the first try but I ran out of pokeballs
Yeah sure
Jacian perez Next time use Net and Dive Balls
Dang and feebas is really rare in general
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r/thathappene
great video and very useful tips for shiny hunting for which I thank you, but you do know you are saying acrobike wrong. It is acro as in acrobat, not arcro!
+Scott Morris yeah I know lol
I disagree about the "5th chain increases shiny odds" because I've found Lv 10 increased pokemon via Dex Nav from Encounters and NOT chains. For example I was about to Dex Nav for Poocheyena and after a few encounters I remembered that Poocheyena also appears in hordes. I tried a horde encounter and then remembered zigzagoon (I don't need another shiny Zigzagoon) so I went back to Dex Naving and the 1st Poocheyena was Lv 12 with 3 Star potential and an egg move (i think it was Ice Fang) but any way not sure if this is significant but I just wanted to give my opinion and what I thought of it. Thanks for another great video Stephen!!
MrGamecube17 I was Never a Fan of the whole 5th of a Chain Increase of a Shiny Pokemon. Just Thought I'd Mention it in the Video so People knew about it even though I don't Think it is a thing at all.
SmkGaming05 yeah, I got ya
thanks bro! i just subbed ur channel is AWESOME
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In x and y can u make a stream of giving away shinys on gts just for some good pokemon i guess??
+Yummy DerpoZ yes exactly the only thing you see on the gts idf someone puts up a shing pokemon on the gts thrn its for genesect
+cheyanne mahaffy i actually have a tradeable genesect
the gaymer of course why should i want it lul kappa 123
the gaymer you'll not get it m8
So, like... how do you increase your shiny encounter rate, then? I don't understand ._.
Omfg this is the second pokemon video I've watched and I got a shiny Braviary from a Wonder Trade. I literally flipped out. xD :)
Hey SMK i just found you and i aready love your channel Hope you get to 100K :D its a long way my friend but i beleave in you
I was watching this and randomly find a shiny lillipup on the 5th poke. haha lucky day. great video btw, lots of detail put in. thanks :)
Whole video:
"Use the DexNav."
ive been in a chain of 20-25 and then i encoutered one again and after 1 sec it said ran away?!? didnt even got a chance. what does this mean and all??
It means you ran near it and spooked it
+Lord Bulba
No, not all ways. Sometimes it just runs away.
+Lord Bulba Usually It Means That You Were Taking Too Much Time To Get To It
if that happens just search again cause chains don't matter if u scare them nothing will happen
Chains Actually help a lot when shiny hunting. Chains make it easier to find the Pokemon again, give a chance for it to have it's hidden ability, and can give it up to 3 perfect IVs
+Matthew Krahm Chains only help get better chance at getting the pokemon again fast. The Better Stats and everything comes from the Search Level for that pokemon you are looking for.
+SmkGaming05 Oh sorry, I got into shiny hunting when the game first came out and the info wasn't 100%, sorry.
No worries! Good Luck Shiny Hunting :D
"pretty much"
I caught a golden magikarp is that a shiny
springtrap fnaffan yes
Nah, go ahead and release it, it's dumb
Don’t release it and evolve it into the red gyarados
no joke caught one while as soon as i clicked this video