Tesla staff reveal timeline for FSD cars outside of America
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- Tesla staff reveal timeline for FSD cars outside of America
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Misleading headline… very annoying
Where is the timeline?
There isn’t one, that’s the point
@@ISuperTed Well, it would be nice to know when it comes to Denmark 😉
8/8-2024 = Robotaxi 🚖🚖🚖🚖🚖🚖🚖🚖🚖🚖🚖🚖🚖🚖🚖🚖🚖🚖🚖🚖
@@mikafiltenborg7572 sure 😅😅😅
It’s was an Elon-timeline.
You hear a lot, but not what you wanted to hear… 🤣
Maybe they should start with America and stop them driving into semi trucks and hitting the kerb.
It was the other way around, mate. That's why you shouldn't try cooking shrimp on the barby when you're driving an 18 wheeler!
Your heading indicated a real time frame. Your video revealed nothing.
Nice to hear about your brother. You thought of doing a podcast and interviewing people? Even this format show could work as a podast with a sponsor advertisement? I often listen to other EV channels on their podcast via Google Podcast while training or driving.
Yeah, gotta train FSD on those bizarre hook turns in Melbourne!’😊
That's the good thing, FSD is teaching itself from the driving patterns of the other Tesla drivers driving there.
UHHH SAM? "reveal timeline", so what is the timeline? I didn't hear you mention a timeline in any part of this video.
In Europe we have very few stop signs but when we do stopping is mandatory, and we do not have an equivalent of the USAs 'right on red' law
Guys it’s coming fast. No doubt about it. They had 15,000 Nvidia H100 clusters last Fall, now they have around 35,000 and by the end of this year 85,000. So rate of improvement of FSD is about to improve dramatically!
This is all great but none of that makes much difference to the timelines of allowing FSD to be approved worldwide. FSD tech is very close to being good enough, but there is a whole world of bureaucracy and different governments to deal with to allow this to be used on roads worldwide.
It could be 10 times better and there would still be the same barriers. It will come eventually but we’re talking 10 years plus for this. Again, not FSD itself, it’s the politicians and regulators that will slow down rollout.
@@ISuperTed I used to think that but when you have data showing the AI is multiple times better than a human then by denying its use you are costing lives, that will change the regulators. Imagine a news headline" Regulators deny life saving driving system"
Remember a few years ago when parcels were going to be delivered by drones. FSD sounds like it will hit the same problems.
That is a great comparison, thanks. The basic idea is interesting, but reality sets in later.
Parcels are delivered by drones that contain high explosives.
@@asajelfs8170unfortunately.
This is so different as there are many Teslas on US and Canadian roads, that have been given FSD and that data is being collected and used to train the AI, so rapid improvements with all of this data. So I do believe this will happen very soon and the proof is how well the 12.3.5 software they have in the US is performing.
Drones for delivery are very very limited and any learning is done on a very small number, so it takes far longer to get to a good data set.
@Jaw0lf Drones are banned in public areas in Australia. Cannot see how governments are going to allows FSD. Who is responsible in the event of a fatality?
Ohhhhh I got sucked in... haha. There is no time estimate 😅
You should see the titles of Scotty Kilmer's videos. 🤣
In all fairness, an actual timeline would have been meaningless anyway.
It’s not called FSD anymore. It’s called Supervised FSD. Which is an oxymoron. I tried it in April when I got my free monthly trial. It’s very good but I would never pay extra for it. It had some problems in certain situations. Also you have to have faith it’s going to react correctly in all situations. Which makes me more nervous than when I’m driving. Can’t see robo-taxis anytime soon. Unless they are limited like the Waymo or Cruise Taxis.
The magic roundabout at Swindon UK. Now that is a challenge if you’re unprepared. Look online, it’s awesome!
Yep, it’s hideous! Mind you, if we had everyone on FSD it would be beautifully simple!
Yes not least the USA driving on the wrong side of the road! LOL.
But it makes sense that there are local laws of the road to be factored in. Hopefully not too hard to tweak as all the detection and reactions like collision avoidance are still the same.
Cheers mate
Id luv to see FSD in a rural area in India with all the wildlife they have, itll be one heck of a challenge...
Interesting comments about insurance, Teslas without FSD are already proving to be the safest private motor vehicles you can travel in per km traveled.
It’s not a marketing ploy it’s a statistical fact.
So I would contend in the near future you will have to pay extra to drive without these systems being activated.
You may rightfully pine for your freedom to drive but the savings in your tax dollars from the significant reduction in road trauma means governments and insurance companies will insist out of fiscal prudence that if you choose to use private transport then you let the vehicle do the driving or pay a higher premium.
In the UK we do have Tesla's FSD, but it's nerfed to hell. Straight Autopilot and Enhanced Autopilot is a very slightly diminished version of what is available in the USA, although it still works extremely well. I think our FSD version is still V.11 something and comes from when Tesla was still hard coding the software. It was getting better very slowly, but it is only since it went to V.12.N.N and total Neural Nets that it has made giant strides in the USA. We certainly don't have that. However, we tried Autopilot down a twisty [in places] 30-60mph limit A road [A3057 for those with curiosity] at night and it coped amazingly well until it did eventually get puffed out. As far as FSD goes I think it will learn super quickly once the chains are off it. I would have thought it will still be referred to as Beta outside of America, not Supervised.
That's AutoPilot. No FSD in the UK.
@@DavidBondOnline Well my nephew does have bought FSD on his Model 3.
Some how i was going through my analytics and this video is where I come some video from! lol crazy
If I buy a Tesla is there potentially an opportunity for my car to become an autonomous taxi cab while I’m not using it?
Morning mate
🙋♂️THANKS SAM…FSD COMING TO A COUNTRY NEAR YOU, SOONER THAN WE THINK 🤔💚💚💚
what will come first robotaxi or #fsd
Neither, the world 🌎 will end long before that happens
we are so lucky to be alive and see the FSD becoming a realty.. Thanks to Tesla and Elon!
How about a free trial or subscription pricing for FSD in Australia. I’m not paying $10k to try it out
Insurance companies including tesla’s own insurance sector work with statistics and data. When FSD is approved by regulators tesla will have enough data to prove that their FSD is at least 2X safer than an average human driver. That means that insurance companies will benefit insuring this EVs equipped with a running FSD. When accident happened tesla will be able to provide info as if the FSD was engaged at the time of accident. Insurance companies will much prefer insuring EVs with FSD than without. Tesla’s insurance sector will be the beneficiary of those policies.
But who knows when that will be? It could be many years away.
When it can deal with a gravel back road with out running of the road or spinning out on loose gravel bends, ill think about it.
British byways less than two car width. Market day anywhere. Multi-lane roundabouts.
Mumbai, Australian unsealed outback roads ....... corrugations and corners. The big sell continues - and Elon's leveraged position is slightly relieved. Temporarily.
Most of these are solved, you clearly do not understand nn training and teslas approach.
@@mallamal5578 oh really ?!. If you believe that, then I strongly suggest that you load up before the share price takes off. You wouldn't want to miss out.
@@davidpearn5925 already have!
@@mallamal5578 LOL. Most is not good enough. Not even close to good enough. The proof is in the eating and the eating says a big NO to certified hands free FSD at present. In other words no hands off wheel for extended time periods. This wont change any time soon. Possibly 5 to 10 years. For vehicle computers to replace humans, they have to be better than humans most of the time. That's not the case at present and wont be accepted by road and vehicle authorities on that basis. As long as humans have to intervene to correct the vehicle computer, certified hands free automated driving wont be accepted.
@@JoeyBlogs007 there are 4 or 5 states where tesla could go totally hands free now. But teslas approach is to get it to being better than a human before they go hands free. Drivers using fsd supervised are racking up 15m miles a day, they will cover 1bn miles in about 68 days.
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Its a return on investment issue. Mapping other countries will cost a lot and their markets are smaller. Plus, the AI industry is on the cusp of improved technology that could well commoditize self driving technology.
The uninformed ignorance in this comment is just off the scale. Tesla's Vision approach to AI self-driving does not require mapping the way geo-fenced and lidar systems do.
Can't wait to see a Kangaroo in the FSD visualisation.
Avoiding roadkill 😂
Language models usually are trained with 95% English and 5% of other languages but they manage to generalize quite well I wouldn't be surprised if something similar is happening with fsd
What is a road train?
A large semi truck towing 2 or 3 or 4 trailers behind them. Often seen on our highways, although I’ve seen them on country roads too outside of the city centres.
They can be advantageous for some but disadvantageous to others. I’ll let you decide.
Spoiler Alert: Tesla are already testing FSD in Australia on the East coast with their own employee’s
👍👍
To sum it up: Good intentions, no dates, it is not even level 3 in the US. One should consider, that the Tesla approach cameras + neural network is not the only solution. In essence, the car drives virtualized on the Tesla servers and the information is transfered to the real car. Other car makers operate with less neural networking and more with self awereness with multiple sensors. Advantage: The car can cope with sudden changes in the environment. Disadvantage: More expensive, needs more computing power in the car.
I don’t think a lot of this is correct. The car doesn’t send data to a server and wait for a response back- that would mean crazy latency. The information from the cameras is instead processed on the inference chip which is in the car, running a highly efficient model on device. Also, although there are other solutions- none of them have the same amount of data as Tesla for training, maybe by a factor of 10. I do not see anyone catching up in the near term, without very big caveats (like the so called Mercedes L3 system which has more caveats than I’ve ever seen 😂)
His name is VAIBHAV not VALBHAV
Someone please help me. I do not understand why autonomous driving requires a lot of data. As a human being, I can be in Timbuktu the first time and I can drive any road in Timbuktu without knowing anything about that road. I do not need prior knowledge of any road to drive on it. A map would help, but you can get map data without driving on it.
If a car is programmed to recognize (AGI) a driving surface, it does not need data. It can recognize a road any time, in any condition and decides to drive on it in any circumstances.
That is how human does.
They should start by installing it on the Cybertruck first 😂
Is FSD just a software issue?
That's the theory. All Tesla cars worldwide since around 2016 are fitted with the hardware (cameras and AI chips) that are believed to be required for fully autonomous driving, so the only missing piece is the FSD software, and an over-the-air (OTA) update can be used to download this to the car. So, in that sense, it is just a software issue. Some people don't believe that the hardware in existing Tesla cars is good enough for fully autonomous driving (for example, they might believe that LIDAR is necessary to complement the cameras). If those concerns turn out to be correct, then it will cost Tesla a fortune to retrofit cars with the additional hardware. However, the folks at Tesla seem confident (as are many non-experts, including me, but take our non-expert opinions with a pinch of salt) that the already-installed hardware is sufficient for fully autonomous driving, and the only things left to do are to mature the FSD software from being a driver-assistance system to being a fully-autonomous driving system, and then get regulatory approval in each state/country. Unfortunately, almost every year since 2014, Elon has been predicting that FSD will be mature enough for fully-autonomous driving within a relatively short time frame, such as "later this year", "next year", or "within the next 2 or 3 years", so it is understandable that some people are skeptical about the latest "We've overcome what we think is the final hurdle, and FSD is maturing really quickly now, so it should be fully autonomous quite soon" claims.
Insurance won’t cover FSD. So check your insurance premium first. It will add another $3000 to your bill or simply cannot claim if you crash on FSD
It's why there's a Tesla insurance company.
@@andrewsaint6581 Yes to mark up the price after they discount haha
"It will add another $3000 to your bill" lol. Just another reason to switch to Tesla Insurance where available.
This is mere assumption and total rubbish. Neither are happening in the USA or Canada which are the only places FSD are available right now. At the expense of making a complete idiot of yourself please do your research rather than spreading false info.
@@realrift01 Cunning plan to make up the price difference and shaft you via the insurance hike
TESLA Should concentrate in making a dirt cheap simple (zero fancy autopilot crap )family car with 600Km range and conquer the world. Fast charging.
Tesla and release dates, same old, same old.😂 Nothing to see here, move along.
Don't lie , this is big news for dojo
@@camronrubin8599...sarcasm, I hope.
Roundabouts
😂😂😂 better delete this comment... you gonna look like a heediot in a few months.
@@stevewooding6437it handles them.
KEK
Australia has round about everywhere and China has almost none.
Humans don't drive like autonomous vehicles do, thus most will have no use for it.
Still haven't gotten the "free" FSD trial on my 2024 Model Y. Beginning to think it was just another Elon promise.
That's hard to understand. I have a 2024 Model Y, and I got it-although I already had FSD.
I have a "FSD" car. It can't drive 5 minutts on the highway before I have to take over.
Tests in Norway without lidar show that a Tesla model 3 can't find the correct distance to a wall. Even with lidar, I tuched, and almost crashed the car.
In Norway we have the same road markings as the USA.
And, don't let me start with winter driving.
There is no FSD outside of the USA yet!
@@user-nf4st5kn6l OK, can I take that to the court?
There is no such thing as Full Self Driving.
Hertz just dumped 10,000 EV on the market, they are a nightmare they only want to get rid of, resale value is nonexistent, and nobody wants to rent them as they don't want all the problems that come with them like range anxiety and recharging.
I do not believe it will ever (next 10-20 Years) be allowed in UK and EU for that matter. Teslas biggest market. So not bothered at all about
China will get fsd next! 👍
AI will never be see more and react faster than a human? Why not?
FSD will need to be taught in each city and area.
New construction on the road will require a slow learning process.
Some drivers have a way of driving and the vehicle will need to learn that style.
Cautious drivers are stressed with aggressive FSD.
Aggressive drives loose patience with excessive caution from FSD.
It will be interesting.
Not really. FSD learn differently.
@@user-nf4st5kn6l have a listen to Dr Know it all.
He spoke about the new AI in Tesla vehicles.
They have different settings from aggressive to chill.
Tesla can have whatever strategy they like. As good as it is or isn’t, local legislation will dictate where it goes, not the Musk hype train. Which you see, to be a permanent passenger on.
Tesla FSD approach has way passed proving concept. Tesla Need more data to nearly perfect their FSD software. In US the require data will be achieved in 12 to 18 months before asking the regulators for Cybecab permitting. Other countries particularly China will be next followed by European countries. Is not the question of if it is when. By the end of this decade at least 50% of the EVs in US with be FSD ready if they ask and pay for it. Cybertruck fleets in US comes much sooner in my estimate by the end of 2025 or early 2026 . IMO
Mr Musk give me a Tesla and I'll drive around on FSD in the UK
Its so sad that tesla owners cant drive their cars thru a $50 oil change place twice a year. Their solution is to spend $40k on a tesla. How sad!!
We have FSD in Europe, but it's crap
You don't have FSD in Europe, even if you've paid for it. And you probably won't get it either. Too heavily regulated.
@@EwanM11That is true. A German tester who reviewed the new M3 model said the Tesla self driving, as it is in EU, is crap. (Also the vipers and the blinkers buttons.) But in EU you have to have redundant systems, i.e. LiDAR and cameras. Since Tesla Vision is crap, and they do not have LiDAR, there will be no Tesla FSD in EU.
@@MrMichaelLundberg people who think lidar provides redundancy haven't thought it through. It does not. But either way, the current EU legislation is fitted to motorway driving, lane changes and so forth. Its tailored towards a future with hands free motorway driving which is what mercedes is focused on. It assumes city driving is impossible and doesn't support it.
Still has so much room for improvement.
@@chrispeace1427 are you replying to the right person?
8/8-2024 = Robotaxi 🚖🚖🚖🚖🚖🚖🚖🚖🚖🚖🚖🚖🚖🚖🚖🚖🚖
More bs
I farted
...or what I call it now, you Trumped.
No thanks.
Talking up FSD while intervening to keep the car from hitting everything around it.
Yeah...so ready for prime time.
You really are an angry person aren't you?
@simonpaine2347 That crappy drivers trust software written by other crappy drivers to control crappy golf carts on the open roads where my family might be?
Yeah...just a little. And justifiably so.
@@billcichoke2534 So as the deaths or serious injuries caused by FSD are virtually zero, I'm guessing that you must be really angry about schoolkids and other innocent family members being massacred in their thousands? If Republicans refuse to seriously regulate guns, why should liberals worry about the minute possibility of someone being hurt by a car?
No thanks ! I would never let my Family in this irresponsible tech
This tech may well be more responsible, it is always looking around in 360 degrees vision and aware of all this at the same time. It has not got limitations that we humans have. Do you yous ABS, cruise control these are basic software to help. The rest is more advanced. Look at how far the latest versions of Tesla FSD have moved on. Ultimately if they did have a fleet of Robo Taxis, you would have a choice of that or one with a driver.
Good to see ignorance prevailing! Mathematically it’s already safer than humans. If All cars self drive right now in the US you would drop the number of deaths from 1000s to 10s a year.
Good
@@sensibleIhopeAutopilot is not FSD and even those numbers were distorted.
Because your family pays perfect attention without distraction, has eyes in the back of their head, and have reaction time faster than a computer.
The proof is in the eating and the eating says a big NO to certified hands free FSD at present. In other words no hands off wheel for extended time periods. This wont change any time soon. Possibly 5 to 10 years. For vehicle computers to replace humans, they have to be better than humans most of the time. That's not the case at present and wont be accepted by road and vehicle authorities on that basis. As long as humans have to intervene to correct the vehicle computer, certified hands free automated driving wont be accepted. FSD is overrated. Not hands free. Not any time soon. Certified hands free driving is 5 to 10 years away. Largely pointless at this time. While advanced driver assistance systems (ADAS) and semi-autonomous features have made significant progress, achieving full autonomy in all driving conditions remains a formidable task.
One of the key challenges is ensuring the reliability and safety of autonomous driving systems, particularly in complex and unpredictable environments. Current systems may struggle to accurately interpret and respond to dynamic situations such as construction zones, adverse weather conditions, or unusual road layouts. Additionally, ensuring robust cybersecurity measures to protect against potential hacking or malicious interference is critical for the safety and security of autonomous vehicles.
Furthermore, addressing ethical and liability issues surrounding autonomous driving, such as decision-making algorithms in potentially life-threatening situations and liability in the event of accidents, is essential for building trust and acceptance among consumers and stakeholders.
Thanks for wasting another 3 minutes of my time... again!
Either tell something new or don't bother making videos
Just announced its in China. Very bullish
Not bullish, bullshit.
@@markmiller8903 really? That's a huge market that just opened up
Tesla fsd is junk
Nobody with a sane mind expects the software to be complete - but if Tesla is paying the costs for any accident to come then well who cares.