The Quarry - Story Explained
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 มิ.ย. 2024
- Hello everyone, and welcome to the next installment of Lore and Order, where I unpack game lore and stories from games. In this one, we look at the new release from Supermassive Games, The Quarry. Considered the 'Spiritual Successor' to Until Dawn, this was a wild ride!
CHAPTERS
Intro - 0:00
Plot - 0:50
Max & Laura Escape - 11:47
How Did This Happen? - 15:02
Hackett Family History - 20:47
Hag of Hackett's Quarry - 22:16
The Curse - 24:43
The Survivors' Fate - 28:24
Bizarre Yet Bonafide - 30:10
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The reason I mentioned Caleb dying, is because The Quarry’s ‘Everyone Lives’ Movie Mode plays out that way. It’s come to light now that Caleb can in fact survive.
yeah holy shit dude i watched a 8 hour gameplay on how to make sure everyone survived and to gather all the evidence. turns out you dont even need to kill jeb or constance, the 3 people who have to die are kaylee, chris, and the dog boy. the way to do it is by letting kaitlyn get infected at the junkyard and not shooting kaleb as this will lead to kaleb not eating kaitlyn because shes infected. to save the parents dont struggle with the shotgun dont spit and everything should be good for the TRUE best outcome.
@@icyplayz7740 hey dude do you know which channel has this walkthrough gameplay?
@@Alex95216 nuzzgard, the best part is he explains his choices in a way of not giving spoilers and brings it up when its relevant later
i think thats a product of the game being unfinished there was hella lines said incorrectly or not wrote out how the actual voice actor said it and it also shows with the weird ass cutscene transitions i wish they would've taken more time with this one imo certain plot points were clearly rushed and not thought out thoroughly, i couldnt imagine sitting through a game movie for the best outcome just to find out the devs didnt even realize that wasn't the actual best outcome
@@pootieofficalmusic Right, so many things from the cutscenes to the animation looked unfinished.
I mean, every time we see an infected person “reveal their feelings”, couldn’t that just be the early stages of the transformation screwing with their emotions, causing an increase in agression and anger?
That's what I got from it. The infection was causing hyper aggressiveness before turning into a hyp aggressive animal, which .ames sense. Because Max was pretty chill outside of the night he turned .
@@BlargTheZombie Exactly. Chris, and presumably Kaylee and Caleb as well, were acting normal during the summer. Otherwise Chris wouldn't have been able to run the camp for 6 years.
yeah that was the implications I got too
@@JehBasquiat same
I agree cuz Max’s line especially was waaaay out of character
This man is carrying the entire horror game lore content on his back.
GamerSault....
@@pleasedont7439 ehh.
History behind the horror??
Isn't it self explanatory??
Eh nah
I feel this game is missing a lot that Until Dawn had, specifically related to the mystery and story of what's going on. It became pretty obvious early that they were dealing with werewolves and the hunters weren't bad given how many times they directly helped characters. Whereas in until dawn, there's a real sense of confusion surrounding what's actually happening. I mean you have the "Murderer" in the mask, the flamethrower guy from the prologue and then some unknown creature that we only saw snippets of until the halfway point. The reveal that it's Wendigos is shrowded behind mystery very well where as the mystery of it being werewolves is kind of screaming at you the entire time.
It's literally there in the prologue. You come across the run down circus and the dog boy's cage if you crash the car (least that might be the only way, I crashed the car and that's how I got it), and you come across the collar later. It screams at you within the first 10 minutes that you're dealing with Warewolves.
@@screamingopossum7809 Thing is, this could have been a cool subversion of Until Dawn. In that game, we start with the idea of a typical serial killer slasher, then to a saw type game, some ghosts, etc. It was only really when Emily was in the mine that the evidence that there was something more going on became overwhelming and we got a proper look at the wendigo. I went into this game (probably like many others) expecting the same kinda routine of something->something more. I liked the earlier reveal of the werewolves, it was something different, but from then on I expected the Hacketts/Hag/Circus/Quarry stuff to add up to the something more. Like, I don’t understand the relevance of the Hackett history or the Quarry bootlegging stuff if the history of the curse only goes back 6 years. It’s also kinda dumb how the Hacketts were hunting Silas for years and then they could find him easily at the end of the game just bc he just appeared on the road one night. The subversion doesn’t work bc a spade really is just a spade is here. Like the ghost doesn’t do anything, the Hacketts don’t do anything, the curse is kinda predictable. It has a weird mix of certain things being supernatural and some not?? Idk but yeah the narrative just didn’t feel like it add up to much
Plus the full moon upon the opening scene lol
I feel like until dawn sorta scuffed the perception most people had of this game tho. Like if u played until dawn you’re prolly already assuming the hunters are good, like the flamethrower guy was. if you’ve never played until dawn I feel like the twist would be more effective but I could be wrong 🤷🏻♂️
@@connoriquada5429 maybe if they didn't show the wolf boy and werewolf right at the start. The werewolf stuff happens so early that everything becomes pretty obvious aside from who the werewolves are.
There's a reason why Dylan's my fav character in the game, along with Kaitlyn. When he turns (if infected), he's selfless af and never shouted at Kaitlyn (in an insulting way). Instead, he yells at her to get away. Compared with Max, Nick, Jacob, and Emma to an extent, they all showed an ugly side to them but not Dylan
I think it might be because he knows he is turning...the others didn't know about werewolves before they turned however Dylan saw nick turn so maybe that's why he was able to some what fight it and tried to warn Kaitlyn....🤷♀️
Have to add Laura although barely knowing Ryan protected him and was generally not rude to him when she’s turning although he gave her every reason to show her other side.
@emimia my Dylan Ryan and Jacob survived , Kaitlyn died in the freezer even though there's a door handle 😑 , Abigail survived and so did Laura. I shot nick in the cage cause I didn't stop Laura. Woops, and why tf didn't I let max stay on the island when he was the only one there . Blonde moment. I blew constance face off and stabbed big Bobby. And Chris killed jedidiah then I shot Chris in the head. I suppose NY Caleb survived also considering I killed Silas at the end . But I didn't get confirmation . My Emma died at the tree house courtesy of max 😢
@@frasermarino3403 jacob told u that the freezer automatically locks when u close it
@@teebriscoe4855 not in my play through . Wish I knew that before hand. And tbh that isn't how commercial freezers work
for a 186 something ending game, i'm surprised they didnt put the options to
1. Choose to go to the motel
2. Dont break the damn car
so we got the "Realistic Ending" route
I would think if there was an option to not break the car, then there wouldn’t be a purpose for the the game since that’s the reason why they were even in this situation.
3. Just stay inside like Mr. H told you
@@harrymccoy8413 hence the realistic ending
@@YourIngrownToenail Yeaa and then they can do something where the camp counselors hear about the events at the camp in the ending
here a realistic idea ... CLOSE THE DOOR when go in/out , every time they didn't shut the door i was screaming my head off
I've seen people complaining about how the characters are never shown interacting after the story ends and I completely agree.
Personally I think it would be good if they'd done it where the characters are leaving the camp Jacob confesses to everyone about messing with the van and everyone's reaction could depend on how many characters from the main group died. I think that would be a good way to have a bit more consequence to your playthrough
Jacob does get an option to tell Emma that if they meet up after he is freed from the cage
@@chaijiahao221 yeah but after that nothing happens it's never mentioned again
Dude same, I've just finished the game, collected all the evidence, and (almost, except for Abi and Nick) everyone survived, and when I was waiting to see them interact and talk about the experiennce, that's it, the podcast guys say that they just "went quiet".
I like the game but flaws like this are everywhere
LITERALLY like i needed CLOSURE
DLC please devs.
They really saw a werewolf monster boy and said awwww poor thing, We gotta start a massive fire and free it.
That was the dumbest story I ever heard 😂
I’d feel bad if I saw a boy trapped in a cage by his mother. Werewolf or not, it was obvious Kaylee saw that Eliza was trying to make a living out of her son, and she didn’t think it was right. I’m not saying it was a good decision because look what it lead to, but I understand why she and Caleb did what they did.
@@BazookaGamingGirl You just have to look ahead slightly and just think for one second what would be the consequences releasing a werewolf on your family's land.
@@ellis1469 and lighting stacks of hay on fire? 🤦🏾♀️😂
@@BazookaGamingGirl Does it actually say anywhere in the game that that's what Eliza was doing? Because for all we know, she kept him in the cage for safety purposes during the time of the full moon. Much like how the Hackett's locked up Chris, Caleb, and Kaylee. To me, at least, it was clear she loved him from dialogue and how she reacted to things.
Just because she ran a freak show, doesn't mean she was exploiting her son for monetary gain. What should she have done to keep Silas from hurting anyone during the full moon? We don't even know why Silas is a werewolf in the first place.
If they thought it was an exploitation thing, they should've... I dunno... Contacted the correct authorities? There are systems like that in place for a reason. Not taken matters into their own hands. They caused so much death because they wanted to be the heroes instead of just calling CPS like any rational individual.
Overall this game is fun but it feels like it has a lot less stuff to do than Until Dawn. The lack of interview footage, the fact that the endings change very little aside from little splash text on the epilogue, and the overall underwhelming final monolog with Eliza. The middle of the game is fun, and I overall enjoyed it. It just felt like it ended a bit too quick
What I feel like this game needed at the least is the police interviewing the characters. I would like to also say that there's more to explore in The Quarry than Until Dawn.
Yea it seemed like they just ran around in circles. The story was good the development wasn’t. I was so confused, ironically with how they just walked around the camp. But with until dawn there was a story within a story, you got to explore more places and that contributed to every character. Similar to the little hope sagas, the games let you dive deeper and explore more. The werewolf thing was revealed waayyy tooo early. I lowkey thought it was cranks at first.
Yeah I believe they missed some good stuff. Also some of the line deliveries was so cringe. Making jokes after seeing a werewolf ?
The real bummer is the overlong and tedious flashback in the jail which plods for a whole hour right in the middle of the game. It is a slog, especially on a replay. This game doesn't touch Until Dawn.
Yes. Poor writing. Can tell there was zero passion in it. The concern was to make money not create a wonderful horror story
it’s insane to me that everything in this game only occurred because jacob got salty his girl didn’t want to stay in a long-term relationship with him. we all know that as the story continued that emma ended up being super unloyal, but it still gave him no right to unlnowingly screw everyone else over by sabotaging the minivan.
Technically she wasn't unloyal, she just didn't want what Jacob wanted. There isn't loyalty if there is nothing there anymore
@@Volzotran tf -_-
@Volzotan, Don’t u even try to play that.
He's one of the biggest cunts but I can't straight up blame him for the events since how tf would he know there would be werewolves and an irresponsible family that allows them to run about that'll undoubtedly harm people while not being able to catch one white werewolf.
@@Volzotran straight up all started because a voodoo mom cursed her son and kids released him. So actually, black magic woman moment☕️
i personally dont believe that the pre-transformation symptoms are showing 'true emotions', i just generally thought, while watching everything play out, that it makes the victim become more aggressive.
Those were my thoughts exactly... Only thing where Dylan wasn't aggressive was because he knew he was turning... But that's my theory
That's basically the debate concerning getting drunk. Some people view the shit one says while under the influence as alcohol acting as a sort of truth serum. Others say people say things they don't (fully) mean when they're drunk. This kind of strikes me a similar thing.
Except, people explode into werewolves instead of pass out on the couch.
You would be correct as it was confirmed by the actor who plays Nick stated it is due to the werewolf thing.
@@augustuslxiii Well yes, but alcohol ain't quite the same as being about to horrifically transform into a beast after being mauled. It's anger inducing by nature and leads to heightened emotions, and good people may say things they don't mean in the heat of things. Drunk people don't exactly go through the same thing...like they don't turn into actual monsters. Also as for the drunk thing, I think being drunk effects everyone differently with their behaviors in the same way medication does. The same prescription pill may react differently within different people.
@@augustuslxiii Yeah, the debate about being drunk it’s actually quite complicated, it depends on people’s brains and personality,they will respond differently ，it also depends on the stage of drunk they are in , I personally don’t believe being drunk reveals one’s true feelings because from an actual medical standpoint it lacks scientific proof and overall not very convincing .
The sheriff could have prevented all of this by identifying himself as Chris Hackett's brother and arresting Max for DWI (driving while impaired), being too tired to drive, and Laura, too, because he doesn't think that she should be driving, either. Max would have been able to figure out what was wrong with the truck, Chris Hackett would have locked himself in the cellar, and the other Hacketts would have hunted down Sylas.
Not really because Jacob would have still broken the car to spend another night with Emma but just with Laura and max being with them at the camp
All this can be prevented if laura calmed her tits out to stay put, then cooperate with the sheriff's plan to hunt silas, but she's too dumb to do that. Lol
@@lrainwater1608 umm are you forgetting about the fact that Ben and Laura had their own car? That they brought to camp
@@lrainwater1608 Max is at least as good a mechanic as Kaitlyn, and could probably have figured out how the van was sabotaged, confronted the others, and gotten the part back.
@@tahir9033 ok then Jacob would have done the same to the other car. Dude wanted to get with Emma. He was desperate despite the fact that Emma rubbed it in his face that he kissed another guy in front of him and he still wanted to get with her right after she did that
There are ways to save Dylan's hand (by not breaking into the cabins as Emma and Abi early in the game) and also to save Caleb (by having Kaitlyn bitten and then not shooting Caleb with silver near the end, which causes Caleb to escape out of the window instead). The only people who have to die in a 'perfect' ending are Silas and Chris Hackett.
My question is when do we see silas?
@@KennedyAnntoinette the last chapter, but you need to play “friendly” with Travis as a Laura in flashback. Don’t fail qte when Laura lay down and Travis come to help her in.
Sorry for grammatical errors, I’m not native speaker.
@@aidosshotanov8058 ohhh gotchu. Thank you for the info 👍🏾
@@KennedyAnntoinette enjoy :)
And Kaylee Hackett.
Though this game left a bit to be desired, and the ending felt a bit abrupt, it was a great concept. One thing I was waiting for during the ending when we could hear the podcast episode of the game, I was waiting for a mention of Until Dawn during the podcast. Something along the lines of 'another group of teenagers speaking nonsense like that group from the mountains'. Think that would have been a bit cool and connect the two games, possibly start some sort of 'monster universe'.
The ending really brought the game down a lot, it's like they run out of budget or something and they just used slideshow text to explain the fate of your characters which is disappointing, obviously covid didn't help with development but in that case simply delay the game, the ending definitely felt rushed to me from minor things like subtitles adding or missing words which the characters would say to obviously the ending with no closure for the characters, until dawn did the ending right with different scenes depending on who lived or died, like Matt being the sole survivor would give him extra scenes about feeling guilty for Emilys death etc but there's was none of that here, getting the 'best' ending in this game is probably the most boring.
TLDR: Everything is Kaylee & Caleb's Fault. As horrible as it sounds, no-one would've had to die if they had just left well enough alone.
Too True.
fr they caused all this
All of the Hacketts were kinda dumb by not checking Silas the wolf boy's cage. All those years hunting, no-one bothered to check the place? Silas was on the fucking road next to it at the start of the game.
yea honestly it’s the whole Hackett families fault for straight up starting the whole situation, and Travis literally made me mad cause everytime Laura asked what’s happening he would be like “no” “it’s too complicated” “you don’t know the full story” like obviously, that’s why Laura is asking in the first place, plus it’s also Jacobs fault for not respecting Emma’s feelings, but that wouldn’t of happened if Kaylee and Calebs didn’t mind their own businesses, but i get why they wanted to help Sila, but couldn’t they sense the danger if they helped him????
@@woodbury2005 that narrative feeds into stereotyping Roma parents as child abusers. It's bad enough the "G" slur (Gypsy) was used by someone like Travis. But more it's the writers fault for not giving more elaboration on how Silas got cursed. The whole "travelling sideshow" doesn't make sense in 2022. Maybe in the 80's where it was more common but this game feeds into a lot of negative / racist Romani stereotyping. Plus the curse's origins is never explained and the way they frame Eliza so terribly, their lack of good writing with this context doesn't even mention if she wanted to reverse the curse but died because two kids were being dumb and resulted in her death.
I WAS LITERALLY JUST TRYING TO SEARCH FOR A SUMMARY of the lore/plot/story of this game yesterday and couldn’t find any good ones and lo and behold, my favourite channel when it comes to explaining videogame story uploaded one!!! Thank you!! I wanted to know more about Silas’ backstory as a whole and I honestly couldn’t stand the podcast at the very end so I was hoping someone could just recap it. 😁😁😁
Silas' backstory smells like a DLC to me.
Same omg I’m so happy
yeah the podcast at the end was annoying and too long😭
@@PanginoongCockroach that would be awesome! Ngl they didn't do his character justice at all, his death was so anticlimactic and underwhelming... I thought there would've been a cooler fight scene but nah I mean wtf they've been searching for him for 6 years and it ends like that....
@@chychy0326 it was so freaking annoying and cringy... like why not just put a cutscene with the main cast talking about what happened or making them meet each other all together again including max and Laura??? That would be so much better.
Note to self: If you see someone standing down the road... Pedal to the metal. DO NOT try and sway around try to dodge the silhouette. The car will go down some random cliff or hit some tree and you WILL get jacked by some weirdo.
And don't get out the car to move something out of the road
And for fucks sake don't look at the map when you have someone else to do it for you. Even if there wasn't a person, doing that is just asking to drive off the mountain
How did the kids and counsellors survive the full moon night in the middle of the summer camp? Even if they just stayed in the lodge for the entire night with some excuse, it’s strange that it isn’t neither pointed at with some objects lying around nor with some kind of dialogue between the counsellors
yeah I've been wondering the same thing. Haven't seen anyone mention this either
Yes, this is like the most confusing thing to me.
I think that app the infected members of the family stay locked up every full moon. But as we saw at the start some of them broke out.
@@austinwhitely5483 yeah but there is no dialogue like: “guys don’t you remember when mr h got home super early that night?” at least hinting at it should have been a thing
I think that the Hacketts keep track of when full moon is and will end the summer camp the night of full moon. I mean that’s why Mr. H was so pressured about getting them to leave
This channel deserves WAY more attention than it currently has, keep up the great work!
Only been around for two years and has over 100k subscribers. Chill out. Sounds like a great start to me.
Eyyy is that a venti pfp 😎
Bro the fact that he finds so much lore on games is crazy . I was waiting on this video to drop this is one of the best channels on TH-cam very underrated
ikr. i’m such a big nerd about video game stories and i fall asleep to them. so nice
I agree
Shame that there was no more information regarding Silas, seeing as he was the catalyst to the Hackett curse to begin with. Either way, I greatly enjoyed your playthrough and Lore and Order video, Harry! The plot for The Quarry didn't feel as convoluted or intricate as the previous game entries by Supermassive but still enjoyable nonetheless.
Exactly! I want to know how he even became a werewolf in the first place.
@@evawins2 Right?! Though, I do believe that not all stories need to be explained from A to Z but a little bit more clarification would be nice hahaha
It pissed me off that, I know it’s a ‘realistic’ game if you know what I mean and they weren’t gonna have an epic showdown, but they literally just somehow find him very easily, at a place where travis says he didn’t know was there despite supposedly searching for six years, where he just happens to be sleeping and you just shoot him in the back. Thought that was so dead
@@brojennan5758 hahaha yeah that ending was...so anticlimactic, it confused me for a minute. Like, that's it?? I thought there would be a final showdown with Silas too (like Until Dawn). Though, I get the vibe that Silas might've been lost and scared this whole time, trying to return to the place he once called home. Therefore, making the choice to kill him much more harder with his back literally turned away from the player. So, narratively, it felt like a puzzle piece was missing if all you had to do was shoot him at the back :/
@@YasmeenCheM that’s a great idea actually, try and plant a little seed of doubt in the players mind by framing him as the victim, but another trick missed by this game, I really enjoyed it but after playing I did sit back and spend a good twenty minutes thinking about the story and the amount of things I picked apart surprised me, was very disappointing story wise in my opinion and if I wasn’t a sucker for retro summer camp type stuff that stuff probably would have ruined the game for me
It would be so cool if one of the podcasts at the end was related to the Wendigos. The people who made Until Dawn also made The Quarry, so a crossover could definitely happen, and would be awsome!
Why would it relate to wendigos the werewolf’s get bit wendigos turn to eating someone two different ways to get infected it doesn’t correlate at all
@@barbievonlee8707 I think OP means that a possible easter egg/cross over/shout out would be a podcast from Bizarre Yet Bonafide ( 30:21) discussing Wendigos. Since they were discussing these bizarre occurrence already, it would make sense and it would be a great call back to Until Dawn.
Actually they're both curse based, & thus magical/supernatural in nature otherwise it makes no since killing one reverts the others bite, while the wendigos when killed release their spirit to go curse a new host.
Thus these types of creatures are somehow tied to Native Americans that have conjured spirits to curse those that have wronged them, not sure what the gypsies did to earn their curse so that would be worth exploring.
There was a moment when they entered the lodge I could've sworn it was the same one from Until Dawn lol
Wait I swore that chic in the podcast says "it's just a prank anton" which made me think of Emily from until dawn but could just be a coincidence
I know the dark anthology series don’t do this but I wish they could create like a small dlc to shed more light behind Silas and how he became the dog boy(white wolf). I know in the video you have a theory that his mom practice dark magic which caused his transformation but maybe that’s not what really happened and it peaks my interest to really know what happen to him. This story line kind of reminds me of the movie the wolf man,the only difference is the situation surrounding how they were cursed plus the guy killed his father in the end but I just would want to know more about Silas
Yeah I’m with you on that. I wanted to know more about Silas too
Just started another play and noticed if you collect the cards. Then deny her when she asks to read your future it shows you glimpses around her wagon. Going to try to see how this play out.
I really thought they were gonna show more detailing why the quarry was flooded on purpose, are the werewolves discovered down there? A curse?
The Dark Anthology also has the Curators Cut of the three episodes, which sheds a little extra light on things. I like the Curator better than the therapist from Until Dawn, and I like him slightly more than the witch(?), gypsy(?), person(?), from The Quarry.
I definitely feel like they missed a lot of opportunity by not digging further into Silas' story. They made some obvious ties to Gypsy's, and had they delved deeper into Romanian Gypsy lore it could have been incredibly cool!
You can save Dylan’s hand without putting the 3 outside in danger. After telling them over the speaker to get inside, you have to send Ryan outside with the gun to defend Dylan while he repairs the line. The werewolf will go after Ryan instead and he will have to fight it off before Dylan uses the feedback to run it off. Ryan remains unharmed and Dylan keeps his hand.
Although this only happens if Abi didn't break the door to the cabin at a very early point in the game.
Honestly their games are pretty good for weaving stories around legends. Would love to see their next game about vampires, hell maybe even something like the rake
Well... they do have a game about vampires but I don't want to spoil which one it is.
@@scorpiocarnage1055 Technically the vampires are the setup, not the twist
@@ItsButterBean1020 But people go in not knowing what the creature is.
@@scorpiocarnage1055 I mean the game is question is fairly obvious about what the monsters are without spoiling it
@@ItsButterBean1020 I'm looking at it from the game structure. You don't see them until the cave-in during modern day.
I played through the game once already, I really enjoyed it. Didn’t find it necessarily scary and I wish Arquette got more screen time, but I loved the teen slasher vibes and got a couple genuine laughs too. I have you to thank, if it weren’t for your video on this game a few days ago I wouldn’t have known about it at all and wouldn’t have bought it. This is the first game out of the until dawn/dark pictures anthology I played too. I might check them out at some point
if you are to check out out any of the other games, I would highly recommend House of Ashes and Until Dawn. Imo The Quarry is slightly better than Until dawn and House of Ashes is an incredible ride ^^ If you do check them out I hope you enjoy them.
@@mayflower7934 i definitely will. I don’t know when because I have other stuff to play at the moment, but I’ll check it out
Yeah the tone of jumpscare / scary things in Quarry is surprisingly low and not to much scare. I think the dev wants to make a difference approach of this game (since this game is the first time Both "fake protagonists" alive /playable / connected to the game, the narrator/ curator were "bad guys" / antagonist, the precognition only works when narrator section, etc)
The Quarry was more theatrical and had better graphics than Until Dawn, but Until Dawn had a better story and was more scarier.
Highly recommend until dawn such a better horror experience as well as story imo. Game gives you better closure at the end and the overall atmosphere is better imo as well.
You can also save Caleb by failing a QTE as Kaitlyn at the window in the lodge. He flies out the window and runs away.
Does anyone die by doing this?
@@CL12356 nope
@@CL12356 if you want an “everyone lives” or “best ending”,kaylee,chris,and silas HAVE to die no matter what. There is no saving chris without someone dying,and not killing silas gets characters killed and keeps characters infected and the curse lives on. All of those 3 are destined to die if you are going for a perfect run
@@AspenFalls0907 well Kaylee dies no mattet what. So its basically Silas and Chris
@@TheZebbsonchannel yeah I forgot to mention that she dies no matter what
Wouldn't it have been easier for the Hacket family to get the hikers body out of the lake than to constantly be on guard for someone breaking the rules?
Or like, sink them waaaaaay further out into the lake where the kids won’t be swimming.
@@_victaris_8581 or string up the corpse for werewolf bait
Or just cut it up and let the body rot
Shouldn't the body almost disintegrate already after that amount of time in the water
@@dremzki since the game takes place the same year as his death or a year later it wouldn't have decomposed much
I'm not a fan of the werewolves, they look more like the wendigo from Until Dawn. Also the transformation is kinda lacking but that's my bias, seeing transformation scenes like Amerian werewolf in London or Trick r Treat just have that tension. Then the design, like they don't look scary but weird. There has been lanky werewolves before it might be the hairless and rarely anything transformed, they have long claws, sharp pointy teeth, pointy ears and weird looking eyes. I get they wanted to differentiate from other werewolf but it doesn't click for me.
Agreed.
To be honest they kind of look like demon Imps from doom.
I think lycan would've been a better name since those are the infection werewolves and not supposed to be true ones
In all honesty though the transformation is unique like the Van Hellsing werewolves
@@magniwalterbutnotwaltermag1479 it is but not as memorable like Van Helsing
Considering how poorly water is animated, I imagine this was intentional to stay in whatever there budget was
What I don't understand is why silas is still in the woods if he's only a werewolf on full moons? And why don't the hacketts search for him when he's not a werewolf?
They need to kill him on the night of a Full Moon to cure their family members... But, I think what you're inquiring is... Why not just capture him while human and then wait for the Full Moon?
It's just the lack of information that has us wondering about his actual age, thus ability to survive in the woods on his own. I mean, an albino kid/teen/young adult would be noticeable. It would be great to see a DLC that covers Silas' story before this game.
I don’t believe he had anywhere to go, his mom had him locked in a cage and used him as entertainment for the public. Also Travis had mentioned that he’s been in hiding for 6 years and they had trouble finding him
@@vincew4297 im just not convinced hed survive with such limited resources
@@nickjohnson1178 apparently he did lol I guess the game didn’t have enough time to go into a backstory on where’d he’d been hiding all those years and how he’d survived. My only thing was whether Silas was bit or whether he was born like that. If he was the latter then I can understand how he survived
@@vincew4297 that's some seriously rugged plot armor
They honestly should've done an early ending like they did with Far Cry 4,5, and 6. Max hits Silas in the beginning, after the cop gives Laura and Max directions, he'll notice Silas limping away, executing him with a silver bullet. The gunshot scares the teens, causing them to flee to Hackett's Quarry. Outside of that scene, the quarry becomes a normal summer camp and the curse gets lifted.
That would kiind of spoiled the endings and twist that they are werewolf since credit at end will say they survived the werewolf curse and said curse was lifted
Or they found a cop and go to Harbinger Hotel instead of go to the camp.
@@Death-999 but I think the main point of a “fast ending” is that it makes sense, like if Jacob after hearing how mad Chris was came out and admitted he sabotaged the car, or how you wouldn’t run away in the forest just for a kiss when your superior told you to stay in the house and you already are outside. Or even how dumb it is that Emma somehow doesn’t hear Jacob screaming that someone needs help, if that happened everyone would have grouped up and stayed in the lodge. There so many dumb things that the characters do that need to be there to make the horror genre but that in general don’t make sense
Edit: oh and one more, seeing that Chris knew the counsellors would stay at the camp he should have been way way way more strict that his sons should have stayed in the cage more than any other night
@@user-vf1zm1ee1l they could make it replayable you know. That ending isn’t available to unlock until after your first playthrough of the game. And they have a list of all the possible endings for you to watch later
I always theorised that Nick's behaviour towards Abi was his true feelings surfacing! The moment I saw him regress and give me goose bumps, I thought, 'hang on a second, why is he saying this specifically?' No other character bitten by a werewolf ever got that creepy. Hell, even Max's worst outburst was him screaming at Laura and calling her a bitch, but he never said any unsettling remarks. Nick is really unsettling and I don't know why some people like him!
I think the same as you do I didn’t like him and they added him in the game only just to making people hated Emma.
Yeah it did feel a lot like he was masking his real personality until he was close to turning. There's a few indicators before that, like the comments the other councillors make about him being more "experienced" than he looks, and how eager he is when Emma actually kisses him. Definitely comes across as a fake shy boy persona adopted to appeal to abi specifically.
I don't Think pre-transformation Shows your true Feelings, i think it Shows your Bad Feelings. Like Anger.
@@LeonardoStupidKenway I would think that too, but Dylan's transformation shows otherwise. His last feelings before transforming were to protect Kaitlyn.
@@chronoverge Yeah, thats true.
To those complaining about the monsters design, I think they would have looked super-scary with the right camera angles and better poses... Also the exploding transformation is due to technical limitations (too much of them).
You made me understand the plot of the game better than the game did, thanks for connecting all the dots for me.
I still don’t think the ending was the strongest, but the game’s atmosphere and story were absolutely amazing
It’s one of those multiple playthroughs will give more endings and more lore
It’s made by the same devs as Until Dawn so expect some decisions being hidden behind other decisions
Still better than the tell tale stories with the fake decisions
Those are just predetermined choices where no matter what you pick you will get slight variation to the actual outcomes
Typically an emotional or memory response as opposed to a change in story
@@badvoodoo2097 nah. All endings in this game flop. They dont have the same tension as Until Dawn's ending
@@john10minutesago15 it just your opinion kids, no need to cram it into someone
@@gerardwolf8507 yeah thats like what most people are saying tho lol. Even the reviews from pages
One detail that could have used some more tightening up was the electrical cages. The receipt said they were ordered in 2016, 5-6 years before present day in game. So why wasn’t it standard practice for Chris, Caleb and Kaylee to reside there before full moons? Chris was chained in the basement when there were vacant cages.
First idea I have to resolve this…. maybe….. a powerful storm either just before the game begun or even during the game that damaged the Hackett’s house power, cutting the cages power and allowing the werewolves to escape? If there’s an actual solution in game that someone is aware of, please enlighten me.
So caleb and kaylee seem to have been residing in the electric cages before but they rebelled when the camp ended, which is why Chris is so worried
@@Noushisshook they rebelled? That seems strange. If they’re aware of their condition, being locked in a cage to reduce the threat of death to themselves and others should be a logical choice for them.
Is there information about why they rebelled?
@@B0mber44 Basically the 2 that started all the problems kept causing problems...
@@B0mber44 i think in an attic or something or one of the buildings there is a note from Kaylee saying that they can't stay in cages anymore. which again makes no sense cause its only one night a month
@@Cyrork right. It still may have been more coherent of a story if say, like I suggested, a storm damaged the Hackett’s power and maybe 🤔 a generator that the Hackett’s use for a backup can’t supply enough power for the cages to keep werewolves contained.
Or maybe 🤔 the notes from Kaylee and Caleb led us to believe that they are claustrophobic or something or even that they just despise the idea of cages as a method to contain anything. They did free Silas, so that could track.
A little more character development would have tied off a lot of loose ends.
But the real question is,
who ate the peanut butter butterpop?
The peanut butter butterpops started the infections and are behind everything change my mind
Kaitlin for sure. She cheated, getting more shots than the guys did, but I don't think they were in a position to argue with the badass with the gun, right after showing off that she's better at using it than they are.
I enjoyed the game a lot and I honestly loved this take on the teen slasher tropes and the little changes made to modernize it. Musclehead Jacob being the one naked for the majority of the game for fanservice instead of the "hot final girl" Emma. Ryan being the bisexual poc who has some cute chemistry with dylan (another bisexual guy). Abi being the "virgin" type of girl who has a spine and p much keeping her jock s/o NIck in check. Kaitlyn and Laura being total baddies who really carry the courage of the group on their backs. Max and Laura's relationship feels honest and sweet. I even liked the Hackett's, and I can feel how desperate they are to keep themselves safe. I also like how there's not a real villain even if there is antagonizing moments between the Hackett's and the counselors, same for Eliza and Silas (even if Eliza is technically the closest thing to a villain ingame). The entire plot is a tragedy of misfortune and how everyone is trying to do the best for their own group, and I also liked how the decisions were made around. The only one who had a very dumb idea was Jacob (who was kind of annoying tbh), but at the same time, everyone did their best to survive, so if they end up killed, it's a bad choice but not the consequence of a stupid decision itself. Even Jacob breaking down at the end of the game felt realistic, realizing how childish he was over a summer crush. It was a satisfying game all around, with some great plotting and very interesting characters. Maybe the only complain that I have is that the werewolves look too much like wendigos from UD, and that the Lodge is a clear revamp of the old sky resort from UD as well.
He’s not naked! Why did people say they were naked when they had clothes on? And yes everyone’s gay or bi or trans. You think they put that stuff in there for any other reason than to pander? They an extremely small percentage of society but they are out in every form of media. What about disabled people? Dwarves? Albinos?
@@panthwolfy Damn son who hurt you today
I agree with you completely! The writing in this game is much better than until dawn.
Cringe
Pretty sure Dylan is gay, not bisexual. He only shows interest in guys during the game.
Harry always comes through 🙌🏻👏🏻🙏🏻
Also, DOES THIS LOOK LIKE THE GODDAMN HARBINGER MOTEL TO YOU?!
Already an iconic line!
If you got to ask you don’t want to know 😱🤣
Travis is the best character in the game imo.
@@badlotusxo Yeah, I watched some gameplay days ago and so far, the only one I liked was Travis.
Question : Giving the fact that the summer camp lasted 2 months, what happened with the childs and counselors during the first full moon? Yes the three Hackett's werewolf could have been caged by the family but the white wolf aka Silas was still around and alive.
It says somewhere they had a mandatory slumber party or something at the lodge on the full moon, so everyone stays inside of the lodge. Kaylee, Chris, and Caleb lock themselves up under the Hackett house, and the cameras everywhere meant to find Silas would see him before he would be able to get to the lodge. Not that Silas goes into Hackett's Quarry anyway.
Tells them they all need to leave before hunting season starts and proceeds to leave them all behind in a vehicle that could have held all of them.
That vehicle was NOT holding 8 people
been checking your channel every day since the release of the game to see if you posted the clip, cant wait for you to cover the new upcoming resident evil dlc and other amazing upcoming story games, honestly your channel shouldve blown up way more than it did, youre like those movie recap channels taking over youtube rn, but for games, heres to 10 years of content like this, youre the real mvp harry
I just beat the game with only Nick dying and I killed all of the Hacket family minus Travis, all in all solid first run, great story telling devices with foreshadowing and small details paying off
if summer camp was scheduled to start one day later and end one day earlier, they would have had some extra time to put out any werewolf-related fires ... cmon, this has happened *every* summer for 6 years
Can I just say, I recently found your channel and have been binge watching your Lore and Order series! Amazing and very well detailed!! Keep up the amazing content and don’t forget to take breaks 😭
It’s important to note this storyline is based on the choices you make … there are multiple endings/storylines this game produces…for example, if Emma doesn’t kiss Nick and chooses Ryan, there’s a different storyline… Likewise, if Abi never shoots Nick, he in turn kills her and rips her head off…overall I enjoyed the video… it gave the gist of everything
I don't think there's an option where Emma kisses Ryan.
Just finished watching your play through and now this, truly a blessed day for me, and as always keep up the good work bro.
A great story, great characters, visually stunning and just a great experience. Love your video too, great stuff man.
As much as I enjoy this game when I think of the ending nothing really notable stands out. Like I expected some of the characters to meet up and say one last quip before something sinister pops up but nope. We just got the Status of our Characters, Some cops cars on screen and a background task Podcast talking about our clues. At best I'll definitely remember the 'monster' they used but that's all. I loved the beginning to middle portion but the end felt just alright. Maybe I just expected too much for a game similar in length to Until Dawn.
oh thank God. I don't have the patience to sit through a playthrough of this game and you always cover the best paths and are always so thorough. thank you so much. I like the stories of the games but I have ADHD and have a really hard time sitting through 8 hours or more of a game like this.
What doesn't kill you makes you stronger.
Me: I get, when you survive the werewolf attack you become one which makes you stronger.
BUT WHAT IF I CUT OFF MY ARMS?!?!
@@emmiebunny04 not many people will get that this phrase is from jacksepticeye 🤣🤣🤣
Correction: What doesnt kill will traumatize you
I find it funny how none of this wouldn’t have happened if ding dong jacob didnt steal the part to the car lol
thanks for this .. i really wanted the lore to be in one frame and all of my doubts and questions were answered in this video ..thanks very much harry this and also the gameplay was perfect .. hattsoff !!!
I watch these videos whenever I feel like doing s/h or stuff like that. they help distract me, provide comfort, and help me ground me. Thank you so much for all of your help. Keep doin Watcha doin ❤
I have mixed feelings about this game. For me, the plot was very predictable. Unlike Until Dawn or any of the Dark Pictures stories, it was very clear that we were dealing with werewolves and that Chris was one.
Also, I couldn't grow attached to most of the characters. I had this issue with Man of Medan as well. Quite frankly, the only people I cared to protect were Laura, Kaitlyn, Dylan, and Max. With Until Dawn, every character had some sort of charm, despite some of them being jerks. I also didn't care about any of the romances. With Until Dawn, you had Chris and Ashley and you kind of wanted them to survive and get together in the end. But with this game? I didn't feel that at all. Especially with Emma kissing Nick to "make Jacob jealous".
Furthermore, I found the tarot cards to be annoying as hell. It was kinda frustrating having the old lady yell at you for not collecting any and then the conversation just ending there. What I like about Until Dawn and Dark Pictures is that these "guides" are often mysterious and occasionally help you. Sometimes they'll even judge you for your choices. In Until Dawn's case, sometimes it'll affect the story.
I know I'm comparing this a lot to Until Dawn but that's because it was missing a lot of essential things that made that game so successful.
It is natural that you are comparing it to UD, as it is the best gane of this genre which set the benchmark for all the ensuing games.
I’m so happy I found your channel you dedication doesn’t go unnoticed
This channel deserves at the least 500k subs! Thank you for all the work you put in.
btw im pretty sure Laura and Max went early is because they had nowhere to stay, cause i remember when i was watching someone’s play through, Laura confessed to Travis when he asked her why her and Max came to the camp early, and didn’t listen to him, and one of the options was Laura telling the truth or something like that, and she said that her and Max had nowhere to go so they decided to become camp counsellor’s and come a day early
I hope your channel blows up! You do a really great job on your videos! Very in depth and very entertaining! Thanks for taking the time to dive into these! Hopefully you’ll do Bloodborne at some point!
This was brilliant! Very informative, thanks Harry!
I’ve been waiting for this!! I’ve held off watching any other videos about this game to watch yours first cause I know it’s gonna be good! :)
This is the most detailed story explaination! Thank you!
Love your Lore & Order playlist Brotha! Excited to watch this one 🤝
hey harry, love what you do! i found you from the entire story of outlast video, i hadn't finished outlast 2 yet so i had to hold off on watching your video but i shared it all to my friends because you deserve the credit for explaining that whacky lore of a game, anyways i was wondering if you could do more story explained on the those low poly horror games like murder house. i just saw one on steam, it's called bloodwash i believe. anyways keep up the good work!!
I've become a huge fan of the lore & order series. Can't appreciate enough the great work you're doing my man. Keep them coming!
I came across your channel a couple of days ago and let me just say I am ADDICTED . It’s like you explain everything so perfectly …. please keep making these I absolutely love them and you’ve gained a new subscriber and I’ve turned on your post ❤️❤️❤️🫶🏽
One thing I wish this game and Until dawn would have done is give us more choices and information in shaping their lives afterward. Are they in therapy? Still haunted by the events? Living life to the fullest?
Maybe Emma has the choice to use her experience to have a successful vlogging/acting career or maybe she realizes her friendships and relationships are more important.
Jacob either wins Emma’s heart and has a relationship or he uses what he’s been through to prove his self worth and doesn’t need her.
Ryan either has his own podcast talking about his experiences or he opens his own camp and becomes the head counselor.
Dylan can pursue his passion for physics and being his authentic self or maybe he joins Ryan as his friend or more.
Maybe Kaitlyn can write a book or teach survival guide. Find romance of her own.
Abi can choose a quiet life working on her art and using the past for her or work or has a relationship with Nick.
As for Nick maybe he’s dealing with his past actions and learning about himself. Perhaps seeing if Abi still wants to be with him.
Or maybe an ending where their all friends bonded together by the past. Maybe together by the campfire.
Was waiting for u to make this vid and I’m glad it wasn’t that long of a wait. Great vid, keep it up man.
Literally coming in clutch, just finished faze Jev's playthrough and now I can watch this. Much appreciated brother ♥️
I like listening to people explain horror stuff so I’m happy to have found this channel
Your channel is growing. 😁 Great video as always!
So excited you posted this right before I go into work! Can't wait to listen to it while I start my shift 😄
Thanks for the video, Harry, it was an excellent essay. Very well done. I'm going to watch your other vids about the other Supermassive Games.
With the amount of video games that devolve into madness after a start like this, if I ever see someone in the middle of the road in the night, I’m going over em.
It's also general survival tips in some states. If you see someone in the middle of the woods in the middle of the night asking for help, DO NOT slow down or offer them assistance. That person is with a group of bandits going to steal your stuff or kill you.
Fun fact: Shotguns loaded with buckshot are lethal up to the length of a football field.
firstly I would like to wish you well and to say a huge thank you for uploading these videos as they have been an invaluable resource to
I really enjoyed watching, fantastic video with everything well explained. Thank you.
So since everyone has opinions on things of "how did this all happen" I'm going to throw one in that most don't seem to think of: If Laura had ACTUALLY gotten Chris on the phone and not just tried to leave a message then none of this could've happened.
Max wouldn't be swerving to avoid the werewolf crouched on the road, he and Laura wouldn't end up detained by Travis, Jacob taking the rotor arm or even break the fuel line wouldn't likely have happened, and so on and so forth.
All this because they "wanted to scope the place out" before everyone else. I get coming in a little early but I'm not leaving for it if I don't have the full OK from the person running the camp.
Plus Travis could've done something after meeting them and ended up steering them straight to the Motel like "Chris is my brother and he's got the camp locked right now and is visiting family miles away, just go to the Motel for the night, he'll be back and the camp opened tomorrow morning." but he was going for intimidation and was worried and such.
Yea and no, Laura and Max could have avoided that mess, if Laura would have just acted like a normal human being, like who leaves a message and thinks is right to show up without any confirmation???
But the Jacob part could have happened any ways, Laura and Max probably wouldn’t have stopped Emma from breaking up with him
But it could have been avoided if Chris just gave the counselors his car, and locked himself in the basement
Not to mention, even if Laura and Max went the way the game goes, it should have been possible for Travis to actually explain things to Laura if she got him to like/trust/respect her.
It could have even led to a player choice, team up with him to actually hunt Silas, or turn against him and hunt Chris to save Max and then get the hell out of there.
She still could have killed Kaylee in self defence, which turns the family against her to help funnel the plot down to the same ending paths.
It may be a personal thing, but I've really come to hate the crutch of relying on no/bad communication to get dumb things to play out a certain way in plots.
Tbf, it's all Kaylee's and Caleb's fault for lighting fucking hay on fire to save a fucking werewolf, setting it free in the first place.
20:22 cool attention to detail, most of us failed to notice that.
Really enjoy these story explained video for super massive games even though most of what is going on is explained pretty clearly in game most of the time (assuming you get most of the clues) but the way you tell the story is so eerie and detailed like I'm listening to a true scary story from MrBallen or something. Very nice
Like a lot of other people, I didn't enjoy this game as much as Until Dawn, but your lore breakdown made me appreciate the story they built much more! Keep up the great videos my man.
Great sum up, thank you so much! Always loving these videos 💕
Man, I just love stories and gaming explained videos.
From Oxhorn with Fallout, VaatiVidya with Dark Souls, Roanoke Gaming with his monsters explained and Superhorrorbro with his own theories, speculation and explained videos; I just appreciate youtubers who goes more in-depth with the media that they enjoy, and I love hearing their takes on those movies and games.
I used to watch Oxhorn’s Fallout videos all the time!
Holly dooie this channel puts so much work on the videos. Keep up the great work its grate
omg you are smashing these videos Harry!!
It was a really great game overall! The first half was great, but then the second half it sorta started to fall off for me. Wish the characters screen time was better distributed for the second half. Also, the ending was kinda anticlimactic and I was hoping there would be an epilogue or the gang reuniting at the end. I also felt that the QTEs were pretty easy. For a next game, I hope they make the characters smarter.
Well they've covered Wendigo's and Werewolves. next game has gotta be either Swamp monsters in Louisiana, or Vampires in Eastern Europe.
THE MOTHMAN
@@DottorHealer if they do it right then it will be a good game
Also good to see that your channel is getting the attention that it deserves mann
I was waiting for this. Realy liked the video. :)
MAJOR SPOILERS and my thoughts
Yeah, but what's still bothering me though is the Hag and why she was doing a show with her werewolf son in the first place. She kept acting like there was more to the story. I couldn't understand why she was mad if she knew what happened was an accident. She made it sound like something else happened. And I still don't understand how the son became a werewolf in the first place and I need more info on Septimus, since I guess that is where everything started. I really wonder about the land too. Gypsies were known to be persecuted and chanced off what was probably their land in the first place. They're basically misunderstood people, which the whole misunderstanding and non communication is a big theme in this game. Anyway, it has to go deeper than some girl tried to save my son by starting a fire and accidentally killed my son....If it was an accident why is she so hell bent on killing the WHOLE FAMILY if they didn't even do anything wrong on purpose. AND WHY THE F is her son a werewolf! I don't know. I just feel like something isn't adding up about the Hackett family and the origins of the werewolf.
From a very specific sequence, it's possible for the only casualties to be Chris, Kaylee and Sylas. Caleb can survive, in fact!
Hell yes, another banger. Bloody hell you move quick 😂
As always amazing explanation.
9:56 “Ryan is stabbed by Randy, sorry, Bobby.”
That’s hikarious! It’s all I can think of when I see Ethan Suplee too, he’ll forever be Randy to me. 😂
Hilarious* not “hikarious” 🤦🏻♂️
great video as always
Awesome Lore and Order as always bro
You did a real good job with this
Loved the video and I cannot wait for you to cover the new game from Supermassive hopefully coming in October called the Devil In Me the finale to Season 1 of the Dark Pictures Anthology :)
Awesome video mate, keep up the great work!
Thanks John. Hope you’re well mate.
@@GamingHarryYT amazing job and your story telling is fantastic
You explain everything clearly and without sounding boring
this makes the ending so much better and so less confusing
Amazing video dude! Thank you. You earned my sub.
Thanks. I was looking for this 5 hours ago LOL.