For people who don't know: The film being used by the CIA as an interrogation tool is a reference to DBD killers like The Doctor (who was part of MK Ultra) and The Dredge (who was created by Dr. Otto Stamper in a way very reminiscent of Augustine Lieber's manipulations of Frank Stone and the Cedar Hills population). The Black Vale is a cult that worships the Entity and often works to "create" the best killers and survivors to help feed it. The cult has had a hand in many killers and survivors ending up in the Fog, including the Doctor, The Dredge, The Blight, The Twins, and Nicolas Cage (yes, the actor was set to play the Blight in a film produced by Otto Stamper's descendant, which ironically makes his lore very reminiscent of this game). The Imperiatti is not as thoroughly explored, but Felix Richter and Elodie Rakoto were the children of Imperiatti members who were taken by the Entity into the Entity's realm (often referred to as the Fog). Dead by Daylight does not have much time travel involved, but the Entity is able to crossover between universes and timelines, allowing multiple versions of the same people to end up trapped in the Fog. This has allowed the Entity to take survivors and killers from both the original Resident Evil timeline and the Remake timeline. One character in particular, Haddie Kaur, is basically the protagonist of Dead by Daylight as much of the lore explores her and her variants exploring overlaps (sites of murder where the barrier between the Entity and the world is weaker) and fighting monsters of the Fog. Augustine, with her many variants, feels like a dark version of Haddie combined with Otto Stamper, another character who worshipped the Entity only to ultimately be killed by one of the killers he mentored, Herman Carter aka The Doctor. Based on what I've seen from other people's playthroughs, these are the DBD characters that the Casting of Frank Stone characters most closely resemble: Bonnie Rivera = Thalita Lyra/Carmina Mora (cool older sister who tries to save her younger brother); also Jeff for being a counterculture musician with a troubled home life Jaime Rivera = Julian (a side character whose death / disappearance is the inciting incident before another character gets taken); also shades of Renato Lyra for being a younger brother to another character. Robert Green = Feng Min (a survivor of tragedy who is implied to have survivor's guilt / be making bad decisions because of said guilt) Sam Green = Elodie Rakoto/Haddie Kaur (crusader against the Entity, trying to save more lives, a member of the Imperiatti) Linda Castle = Mikaela Reid/Kate Denson (an artist who channeled their visions of the Entity into their work; also had previous run-ins with the Entity before being taken by it) Madi Rivera-Platt = Haddie Kaur/Zarina Kassir/Mikaela Reid (death of a parent leads them down a path headed for the Entity, also she dreams of the Entity's realm) Bruno Stanford III = Ace Visconti (sleazy scammer/gambler who bit off more than he could chew) Chris Gordon = Nea Karlsson/Meg Thomas (rebellious teen who breaks into abandoned buildings and inevitably finds out why that's a bad idea when they get taken by the Entity) Frank Stone = The Doctor (mentally unstable and violent person whose worst aspects were used by The Black Vale / The Entity); monster form resembles the Unknown/the Dredge for how he absorbs aspects of his victims Augustine Lieber = Otto Stamper (rich, powerful, manipulative person who thought their worship of the Entity made them invincible/untouchable)
he also missed out on what the entity feeds off, she feeds off emotions and the trials are a way for her to constantly gain a mix of emotions to eat. She will also give them trinkets linked to emotional evens to get a stronger feeding from her killers. she is also capable of entering a world whenever she wants to take or even having a hand in manipulating people like Adiris, Carmina and Johnna to be killers or break their mind so thell be fit for the realm.
@@GamingHarryYT was trying to give more context on the trails and why they are a thing, which she dose feed off emotions. I would argue consume and feeding can mean different things especially with a cosmic being. And I wouldn't consider the black vale to be the most reliable narrators, they worship it but they don't seem to really be all that knowledgeable of it deep down. They have also done things that seemed to mess with the entity's plans like nearly killing Carmina who the entity had been manipulating for decades. superb video though
In this case MASSIVE air quotes around “save everyone” as the implication of the save everyone ending is that they end up in the “Dead by Daylight” games which is an endless cycle of death and suffering
More over, whether or not you save everyone you can in the 2024 timeline is likely inconsequential in the grand scheme of things. The entity has already taken over, and in the world of DBD, it is capable of bringing its victims back over, and over again regardless of if they escape or not (I only just learned this, but those who die during a trial simply forget what happened - and while someone could argue ignorance is bliss, it is still an unfortunate fate even if they aren't always aware of it). So while I've seen many argue that getting everyone killed is actually the better thing to do, since that means they won't be stuck in an endless loop of trials for the rest of eternity, that sadly is probably not the case. The only exception might be whoever is consumed by Frank Stone when he comes out of the projector (pro tip for anybody who may not know - you CAN save both Sam, and Linda here. Just don't help Stan. He will die five minutes later regardless, and there is nothing you can do at any point to stop this from happening), but that's obviously not any better of a fate, since they are still alive within him, and will live the rest of eternity in agony. Overall, the ending of this game can be summed up as, "there are fates worse than death."
@ItsHaisho The Entity still can take them even if they die because Bill was taken after he died in Left 4 Dead also it's the multiverse so there is one place out there where this never happens and everyone is fine but many universes they are all taken
@@ItsHaisho I actually somewhat disagree that the survivors are taken even if they die. If that was the implication, the game would have had them appear at the campfire no matter what, such as what happens if two survivors make it to the end. Since that doesn't happen, I'm lead to believe that because they died early, the Entity figured that they wouldn't make very good meals and abandoned them to their fate. Same for if you get Chris back to the past and Sam to escape through the Horologium. Although, in their cases it's probably more that the Entity can't reach them.
@justmyluck624 The entity may have just chosen to bring in whoever replaces them if they die (Claudette, Meg, et.), instead. Just like how in DBD it's not the same people every time. It cycles through them
The the premise of the game DBD is that this dark entity is collecting monsters and serial killers from across the multiverse to play one big game of murder tag
The Casting of Frank Stone is a fire title for a number of reasons. 1) Frank Stone worked at a steel mill 2) he became a “character” in the Murder Mill film
It's got several underlying meanings. those two included, but you can also look at it as Augustine is trying to "cast" a Frank Stone she can rebirth to bring the Entity to her world, as she mentions she "needed to find the film where his essence was most whole/pure"
@@extrashotofespresso_ You gotta remember that back in the day people don't nearly have as good skincare products and stuff either. You try to tough it out like them in the backwaters forever and you're gonna look like your grandma or grandpa at your forties. Sam is the one guy who didn't fit in because he looks insanely young considering his stress and trauma and everything.
the theory of Chris being Augustine is very possible. Indeed why is she sucked up in the portal? Also, while introducing Augustine says: "you name is what you are, that is important to remember." and "I CALL myself Augustine Lieber.' and not "I am Augustine". i find that a weird thing to say if it is someone's name.
Never mind the theories about Chris and Augustine and the Entity, I wanna know the timeline of events concerning the 10pm screening of Murder Mill where everyone started attacking one another! Did everyone suddenly start going mad or was there a Patient Zero who suddenly snapped? When did the Police get called; before or after the Employee got stamped to death? What exploded? Why did the recording end with the Reporter repeatedly yelling "OH, GOD!"? I WANT ANSWERS!
I was gonna comment this, it was a theory I had as well and his video just reminded me of the "I CALL myself Augustine Lieber" Also a small thread but when Sam Green catches them early on she refers to herself as "Tammy Lee Dixon" showing that shes got a proclivity towards pseudonyms
@rellikx7519 exactly. Also in the end, IF Chris makes it to the campfire, she says that Augustine looks familiar. Could be that she reconized her from the store but that is a strech. Also, where is Chris in the 2024 timeline? At the end augustine completed the movie, because if she is Chris she already had a strip of it.
I had no idea this game was related to Dead by Daylight, so when you started to talk about an Entity, hooks and trials I was so confused and wondered how the devs managed to get away with such similarities
Something I theorized was that Augustine Lieber is actually the second Chris that is created if she stays in 2024 and goes back in time later. Being after being pulled through time, seeing everything in the present, and going back in time to find that she's essentially been duplicated is a very easy backstory for Augustine's pursuit of knowledge. It also explains why the archive Linda finds includes not just information about Frank, but also the other "survivors" and places of interest to Chris and her friends.
I was trying to understand that as well! When they didn’t cast someone in his role I was like what? lol. Good catch. I caught the play on words though, that he was “cast” in iron forever.
I think it has more to do with the molten metal definition of casting. You pour molten metal into a cast to make a shape. The story is about molding (or casting) Frank into a killer. I don't think the Entity is treating it like tryouts, the dude is just being designed to be a killer. Also, it's a fun little thing to think about that she "casts" the film onto a screen to bring Frank back in his "killer" form.
My personal take on the Christine theory: yes, she is definitely Augustine! But she originates in the timeline we see in 1980. She moves to Cedar Hills, all the stuff we see happens and they split up the film, but after that, what we don't see, is Christine being fundamentally changed by what she experienced in the mill, the portal, and her chance encounter with her future self. Perhaps she manages to find the Black Vale through her own occult research, or maybe they contact her similar to how Sam was contacted. But either way, that version of Chris joins the Black Vale and gains training and knowledge about the entity and how Frank fits in, but they need her to help assemble the necessary pieces. Since they have the technology to travel through the different timelines, Chris is able to obtain several lifetimes worth of knowledge, and I think some of those timelines involve Chris NOT moving to Cedar Hill and therefore never meeting that version's Linda, Jaime or Bonnie; hence the versions of the movie (presumably the one Maddie has) featuring Bonnie in the role we saw Chris playing in the"flashback." Instead she goes to university to be a psychologist, deliberately putting herself in the position to mentally groom Frank into a murderer. And then just repeat the cycle over and over, collecting all the occult stuff, the different versions of the movie, as well as orchestrating the entire 1963 scenario with the mill murders culminating in Jaime's kidnapping and the shootout with Sam.
Epic of Gilgamesh could be a nod to House of Ashes, since it is the oldest epic story on record, originating from Mesopotamia like Naram-Sin, Pazuzu and Lamashtu, and the bat-alien creatures/resulting vampire stories.
There is a key part of the story where Gilgamesh descends to the Underworld to liberate his buddy Enkidu. Augustine directly cited Enkidu in her notes to be Frank’s inspiration, which makes her the cruel and unusual manipulator Ishtar. You see, Ishtar took out her spite for her advances being rejected by Gilgamesh by making his bestie die of illness. Also, the two bring wood back from a grand Cedar Forest after defeating the terrible monster Humbaba.
Murder Mill seems to be Augustine's plan B after her original plan was foiled by Sam. However that would question on how much she was involved on everything that happens in the game. Even though there are multiverse shenanigans, it is still a huge coincidence that Chris happens to come from out of town and would have a big interest in making a film at the steel mill which would help Augustine bring the entity into her world. Either Augustine has some crazy luck or she has planned for Chris to move out to Cedar Hills.
The Hidden Object Guru has a really convincing theory that Chris might actually be a variant of Lieber herself. We know Augustine Lieber isn’t her real name. After all, the Horologium’s purpose is to pull in other Liebers to collect more footage of Frank Stone. So why does it suddenly suck in Chris? Plus it makes thematic sense since they’re both fixated on making the movie.
For those who aren’t aware, in the DBD universe, the Entity is a god-like creature with the ability to cause realities and time to crash in on eachother, seeking the lost and evil throughout history in order to sustain itself through the ritual.
Another hint that Jaime is the baby at the start is that he plays the killer’s victim in Murder Mill, thematically connecting real events to the movie.
I was a bit too but when I read up a bit more on the wiki of dead by daylight, combined with the context of the game it seems to be implied that Augustine, across the multiverse, is trying to perform a ritual to summon the 'entity' to do so she needs 'killers' and 'victims'. This version of her seems to 'create' frank stone but the ritual isn't able to be completed thanks to Sherriff Green, however it seems she's able to resurrect Frank by assembling his captured essence across the film strips collected across the multiverse. Ultimately it seems regardless of who lives/dies, Augustine herself is sacrificed by the killer to the entity, which (trapping the 'victims' in a 'trial' which is ultimately the game Dead by Daylight. This trial seems to possibly exist outside of space and time which would explain why the original quartet of victims in DbD are 'never seen nor heard from again' despite possibly escaping their killers?
@@scvrlett18That’s only if the other two Survivors don’t make it to the campfire. By the end of the game you can have the core four (Madi, Linda, Sam and Chris if she stayed in 2024) all there, and whoever didn’t make it is replaced by the silhouette of the OG four Survivors from Dead by Daylight.
@DuelaDent52 fair enough I only made it with Linda and the cop so makes sense why I seen that but point still stands they didn't throw out the og survivors they are present in this game
Christine does remark during the ending if she makes it to the campfire in some endings, that she, Christine, feels like Augustine looks familiar to her, like that she is a mirror of herself
I thought she was just connecting the dots between the lady in the curiosity store and Augustine. After all, she only met the curiosity seller earlier that day, if we look at it from her perspective. If the Chris is indeed Augustine, then the comment about familiarity is much more interesting and intriguing.
For fans of horror games, whether single player or asymmetric multiplayer (in DBD's case), this is probably one of the biggest horror crossover games ever. Being a SuperMassive Games fan, I admit to being intrigued when I saw people like HiddenObjectGuru speculating stuff from the trailers and BTS stuff. Since people remember the villains/killers of horror movies better than the heroes, in most cases, I mostly stick to watching/memorizing the basics of killer lore concerning Dead by Daylight and Behavior. This game may be focused on doling out DBD easter eggs, from the gameplay to the collectibles, but I believe fans of Until Dawn finally have the spiritual successor game they deserve, ultra nice since the Until Dawn remake/rerelease is less than a month away now. Thanks for covering this anticipated, ambitious, and rather intriguing game.
I personally believe Chris was also the old lady in the trinkets shop. Would explain why she happened to bring them the exact camera to capture Frank stone. If they never had that camera they never would’ve been able to stop him.
18:24 "She's placed somewhere rather inconvenient." I don't know why that made me laugh so hard. 🤣🤣 That's such an interesting way to describe her predicament. Thank you. I needed a good chuckle today.
I don’t play or know much about DBD but I think this is a great way to introduce new characters to it and I hope Supermassive Games does more stuff like this!
Thank you so much for doing a story explained video on this game! I love these types of games, and you do such a great job of explaining them! Keep up the great work!
So pretty much, this about Augustine trying to find her prefect champion for the trials. Makes me wonder if there is others just jumping around timelines and universes searching for their champion for the trials as well. Sounds like a big underworld gambling ring for the elites and we all just the pawns 😆
This game is really good. Maybe even my favorite from this developer. I personally have a few criticisms, however. First, I wish they had given us more crossover with the different timelines, but I doubt they wanted the scope of this game to be too insane. 😅 Secondly, we didn't get a motive for why Augustine wants to bring this horrible entity into existence or how she even knows about it. Also, its weird that she is shown to be working alone, but again, they probably didn't want the scope of the game to be too large. And third, I was most disappointed that Stanford didn't play a bigger role in the plot. He's the only character that has no connection to any other timeline, which is strange. I kept waiting for it to be revealed that he was Augustine's son or something or maybe a member of the cult. Anyway, great video. Thank you for breaking the story down. 👌
I think Augustine has employees as is written in a note when Madi is arriving to the mansion. However and most interesting is that she heavily insisted on all her employee personnel to be laid off while she had visitors. Her manager of housekeeping said he would only be one call away. Why would she not want them there is the question?
@michaeldones2320 Yes, she has a housekeeping staff, but I was talking about people working with her on the occult. I'm assuming she told her house staff to leave because they are not involved in her plan of bringing the entity to life.
Wait, with the alternate timelines with minor or massive differences, is this a way to explain the different skins for the survivors? They aren't just cosmetic, they are technically canon to another universe?
Yup! The tomes sometimes touch on this. It’s also why there can be multiple of the same Survivor in one match, they’re all different versions of each other.
Its something people never really think about. Of course they'd have to, or everyone is just living together while xenomorphs, the t virus, demons and whatever other horror shinanigans contained to one universe, which sounds like hell XD
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Maybe the 2024 film didn't release Frank because they didn't find his lair? In the 1980 timeline, Frank only appeared after they started filming the hand so it would make sense that maybe they didn't find it in the 2024 timeline?
Worth pointing out as well: The Imperiatti mentioned are also referenced in the main Dead by Daylight game. Two of the survivors, Felix and Élodie, are the children of members of the Imperiatti. It is noted in their lore that Felix and Elodie were part of a group of five such kids, calling themselves the Pariahs. Perhaps at some point, if Chen has a child, they will enter the fog too.
Hey harry! Always glad to see when you upload, big fan of the content and the story explained/lore and order series in general! Glad to see another great video come up!
You got a bit of stuff wrong about Entity, it doesn't really consume matter or worlds, but instead feeds off of emotions. Entity itself is just an amalgam of them and trials exist to create as much of them as possible. It also doesn't *have* to be summoned to kidnap someone from a world, it kinda just snatches whoever from wherever as long as they might be of use to it.
No, the Entity DOES consume worlds whole if it’s able to, it just doesn’t do it every time it pulls people into its realm. The Champion was a special case since he was cooked up by the Black Vale to specifically draw the Entity’s attention and was assembled from hundreds of different Franks.
I make a vote for Frank Stone, his DBD name be, "The Champion" since he was essentially bred for this, he was molded for it. And eventually chosen by the Entity to become a killer and to bring in survivors for the Trials.
@ProGamer-lk9qw Woah...why didn't I think of that.... Dude you realize all the killers in DBD have special nicknames right? Like Michael Myers is "The Shape" and Pyramidhead is "The Executioner"
@@ProGamer-lk9qw Every DBD killer has a special one to two word title with the word "The" in front of it: The Dark Lord, The Huntress, or The Doctor, for example.
It's obviously "The Champion" because u can find his doll at then end of the game, and all the dolls are named after the nickname of the killer (ex : the doll of the Trapper is named like this and not "Evan McMillan"
I like the resident every vibes the opening mansion scenes give off. Maybe it’s just me but a giant mysterious puzzle mansion is cool to me. Great video Harry!
I will always love and appreciate your videos on games like these because you take the time to tell the story in depth and explain the branching choices and how they affect the story as a whole. Sometimes people only tell the story they got, but you record all segments and show what could have been and I just want you to know it makes the videos so much more enjoyable.
....after two VERY VERY long attempts to watch 6-7 hour plays through of this slog of a game....this is exactly what I needed .This game was too slow and I don't play DBD so I don't think it was made for people like me. Good to see an easy to follow recap. Thank you.
Honestly I think this is too slow for DBD players as well we just find the lore building really intriguing. But for a Supermassive/Dark Pictures (or The Quarry/Until Dawn) type game this makes a lot of sense. They still haven’t mastered the ability to go back and change your decisions imo but this does do it the best with “the cutting room floor”)
Something i really hope happens is we get more games like this with other killers from dead by daylight. Since many of the killers have origins we could playout the story of their origins in a different game.
This is kinda unrelated but I have a cool idea where at the end of DBD’s lifespan they could do an event where depending on if more survivors or more killers win a certain amount of matches as a community they could have an ending to the game with like a cutscene or final battle or something that’s good or bad depending on the outcome. Don’t know why I thought of it but just thought it was a cool idea lmao
@@nathanthomson777 All survivors just sitting in a campfire? That's not an ending, that's just backstory for the characters to appear in DBD. This needs an actual ending where all questions are answered and all the characters fates are resolved. Who are Ted, and more importantly, Augustine? What happened to Jaime, Chris and Robert? How are they gonna escape the entity? How did several timelines intertwined? How different characters from different timelines converged together? Many questions.
I screamed lord "whaaaaaat?" As you said "then the game ends." This was thrilling and i wanted to know more. I think you are right with Augustiner being Chris. Was my guess too. Awesome video like always! 😊
thank you so much for the time that obviously you take in making this videos , theres people out there doing the same but you will be my favorite always , love how you narrate seriuously hope you are doing great 😉
Aaaaaaaah i have to wait because of the spoilers BUT I WILL BE BACK ! Thank you for the great video in general, i had a blast discovering your channel this summer !
as none of those characters was in DBD currently i just assumed the only cannon ending to this was everyone dead no one survives because you still see dwight, claudette and jake andi i think meg at the campfire
Linda Castle has to be a reference to William Castle a gimmick horror director from the late 50's (directed The Tingler, House on Haunted Hill, and 13 Ghosts), right? The scene at 19:56 of the chamber is straight out of the 90's 13 Ghosts remake and the whole theme of movies transporting souls through time-space is very in keeping with Castle's Gimmick-y "4D" film experiences.
I definitely think Chris and Augustine are connected. Possibly in the 1980 timeline, Augustine existed but never fully committed to the cult of the entity but like the other Augustine’s she still has a drive to explore forbidden knowledge. She has children and eventually Chris is born and has an interest in the macabre. She learns about Frank and the part of her that is a past Augustine awakens. That would explain why she was so obsessed overnight with Frank and why she had no issues with filming a crime scene. The portal opens for her because she is a descendant of Augustine and has collected some of the essence of Frank and so her time in that world is over. Of course there are some overlap with Old Augustine who had traveled there. I think Augustine is replacing other versions of herself with the horoglorium (?) so that she can be in any timeline in perpetuity.
Never played dead by daylight. After paying $40 the game was very worth the money if you like graphics, an animated story, relaxing and pressing a button, changing the scenes of a movie on the fly and feeling like you’re in a scary movie. Now I will say I feel the game was very short; it lacked substance when you walked around to look for things and I feel like this game was an introduction for a character for another game. I had some friends say it’s a new character for the next dead by daylight game. I’ve never played that game but I bought frank stone because I bought the quarry. The quarry is definitely longer than frank stone. Frank stone seems like really cool tv show short and sweet but I felt they could’ve added more gameplay or scenes for the money. I bought the game Friday or Saturday. And it Monday and I just beat the game and watched this explanation video. I’m going to play a few more times but it’s a very short game for those expecting tog et. A week or two out of this game. I might get that playing the story mode a few times seeing the different outcomes but I played this game two hours today and three yesterday and barely 1 on Saturday and I’m sure I bought the game on Saturday
"It followed the formula of their previous games such as Until Dawn & The Quarry" Dark Pictures Anthology: 😢 Edit: also thanks for the story explain cause ngl, the last 15 min of the game left me so confused
Yeah. Reason I didn’t mention them is that people far too often tend to unfairly compare Dark Pictures to Until Dawn. The Dark Pictures are more ‘cheesy’ B-Movie horror style. Where Until Dawn, The Quarry and TCOFS have a more serious tone.
@GamingHarryYT [Sorry for the essay in advance] I'd argue for that cause as much as the characters can have snark behavior or maybe have some 'funny' moments, they're far in between. Man of Medan, I'll admit I don't remember much from but from what I remember after the ship raiders take over the boat, it's pretty much serious 100% from there Little Hope, although Daniel, Taylor, Angela & John can have a lot of back and forth because they all share a distain for each other, they still take everything seriously and believe each other as much as they want to alleviate the situation [John in particular] House of Ashes I don't remember much from either, but I know the main cast jokes around in the helicopter scene but I think they were going for the kind if stuff you might hear from a group of militia, but idk. But really, after they fall into the caverns and discover the old temple, from what I remember, they stay at a pretty straight consistent story & don't lean into much comedy. The Devil In Me, this cast is very snarky, sarcastic & spiteful like Little Hope, but cranked up, but after Jamie and Charlie "kill" the grounds keeper after meeting the real DuMet for the 1st time, they keep on a consistent level of blending the scare factor and putting in some 'relieving' bits such as Mark & Kate talking about her Amethyst Crystal. I know there's a lot of comedic parts that are injected before and a little in the main plot, but that shouldn't take away from the story at hand, most of the time when the funny hahaha are put in the story is to relieve the player from feeling anxious through the whole game. The characters are made to dislike each other, but as the story progresses, they have to learn that they need to stand & work together or else most of, if not everyone dies. I just don't get cause a game series has a few funny moments between all the scary stuff it just becomes 'B-Movie' or 'B-Games'
Oh hell yeah I love timeline fuckery like this! And from your explanation, it seems like they pulled it off pretty well, at least if Chris is accounted for like you said at the end. I know this was a lore video rather than an analysis one, but I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts about how this works as a game as a whole and in comparison to other Supermassive Games
I'd like to know more about the "protective talisman" of murder victims, the one referred to in the book Augustine left out for Madi and Linda to find, and the locket that Madi can find later. Obviously, the book was a trap, and nothing good can come of it, but I'm curious whether there's a DBD lore reason as to why.
Also, it’s not mentioned here, but I think it’s implied the old sheriff (the one who took credit for stopping Frank Stone) is either part of the Black Vale too or was paid off by Lieber to not look any farther into the goings on at the Mill.
Supermassive Games needs to make a horror anthology game with many stories from a good show like Black Mirror, Tales from the Crypt, Tales from the Darkside or The Twilight Zone. They need to have like 5 good stories that can be played and when you pass each of the 5 stories you can unlock other stories that also have multiple endings.
Yesterday I was just watching a playthrough of this game on horror bro channel and I was thinking man I can't wait for Henry to do and explain video on this game and today I wake up to this video🎉🎉🎉 thank you for the videos Man this is another great one in the books, again you did a great job love your content and can't wait to see more videos🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
I love the theory of Chris being Augustine, especially if, not all the time, but shaped by her time travel experience? Like being thrown 40 years in the future, seeing some insanely weird stuff, and then just going back might be enough to turn a girl to cult worship.
For people who don't know:
The film being used by the CIA as an interrogation tool is a reference to DBD killers like The Doctor (who was part of MK Ultra) and The Dredge (who was created by Dr. Otto Stamper in a way very reminiscent of Augustine Lieber's manipulations of Frank Stone and the Cedar Hills population).
The Black Vale is a cult that worships the Entity and often works to "create" the best killers and survivors to help feed it. The cult has had a hand in many killers and survivors ending up in the Fog, including the Doctor, The Dredge, The Blight, The Twins, and Nicolas Cage (yes, the actor was set to play the Blight in a film produced by Otto Stamper's descendant, which ironically makes his lore very reminiscent of this game).
The Imperiatti is not as thoroughly explored, but Felix Richter and Elodie Rakoto were the children of Imperiatti members who were taken by the Entity into the Entity's realm (often referred to as the Fog).
Dead by Daylight does not have much time travel involved, but the Entity is able to crossover between universes and timelines, allowing multiple versions of the same people to end up trapped in the Fog. This has allowed the Entity to take survivors and killers from both the original Resident Evil timeline and the Remake timeline. One character in particular, Haddie Kaur, is basically the protagonist of Dead by Daylight as much of the lore explores her and her variants exploring overlaps (sites of murder where the barrier between the Entity and the world is weaker) and fighting monsters of the Fog. Augustine, with her many variants, feels like a dark version of Haddie combined with Otto Stamper, another character who worshipped the Entity only to ultimately be killed by one of the killers he mentored, Herman Carter aka The Doctor.
Based on what I've seen from other people's playthroughs, these are the DBD characters that the Casting of Frank Stone characters most closely resemble:
Bonnie Rivera = Thalita Lyra/Carmina Mora (cool older sister who tries to save her younger brother); also Jeff for being a counterculture musician with a troubled home life
Jaime Rivera = Julian (a side character whose death / disappearance is the inciting incident before another character gets taken); also shades of Renato Lyra for being a younger brother to another character.
Robert Green = Feng Min (a survivor of tragedy who is implied to have survivor's guilt / be making bad decisions because of said guilt)
Sam Green = Elodie Rakoto/Haddie Kaur (crusader against the Entity, trying to save more lives, a member of the Imperiatti)
Linda Castle = Mikaela Reid/Kate Denson (an artist who channeled their visions of the Entity into their work; also had previous run-ins with the Entity before being taken by it)
Madi Rivera-Platt = Haddie Kaur/Zarina Kassir/Mikaela Reid (death of a parent leads them down a path headed for the Entity, also she dreams of the Entity's realm)
Bruno Stanford III = Ace Visconti (sleazy scammer/gambler who bit off more than he could chew)
Chris Gordon = Nea Karlsson/Meg Thomas (rebellious teen who breaks into abandoned buildings and inevitably finds out why that's a bad idea when they get taken by the Entity)
Frank Stone = The Doctor (mentally unstable and violent person whose worst aspects were used by The Black Vale / The Entity); monster form resembles the Unknown/the Dredge for how he absorbs aspects of his victims
Augustine Lieber = Otto Stamper (rich, powerful, manipulative person who thought their worship of the Entity made them invincible/untouchable)
Pinning this because I know diddly squat about DbD lore 😂
he also missed out on what the entity feeds off, she feeds off emotions and the trials are a way for her to constantly gain a mix of emotions to eat. She will also give them trinkets linked to emotional evens to get a stronger feeding from her killers.
she is also capable of entering a world whenever she wants to take or even having a hand in manipulating people like Adiris, Carmina and Johnna to be killers or break their mind so thell be fit for the realm.
@@grohiikwolf2374the wiki says the entity consumes worlds, and the dialogue in the game says it (Augustine)
@@GamingHarryYT was trying to give more context on the trails and why they are a thing, which she dose feed off emotions. I would argue consume and feeding can mean different things especially with a cosmic being.
And I wouldn't consider the black vale to be the most reliable narrators, they worship it but they don't seem to really be all that knowledgeable of it deep down. They have also done things that seemed to mess with the entity's plans like nearly killing Carmina who the entity had been manipulating for decades.
superb video though
@@GamingHarryYT Yes, it feeds off emotions to get enough power to consume worlds, iirc.
In this case MASSIVE air quotes around “save everyone” as the implication of the save everyone ending is that they end up in the “Dead by Daylight” games which is an endless cycle of death and suffering
More over, whether or not you save everyone you can in the 2024 timeline is likely inconsequential in the grand scheme of things. The entity has already taken over, and in the world of DBD, it is capable of bringing its victims back over, and over again regardless of if they escape or not (I only just learned this, but those who die during a trial simply forget what happened - and while someone could argue ignorance is bliss, it is still an unfortunate fate even if they aren't always aware of it). So while I've seen many argue that getting everyone killed is actually the better thing to do, since that means they won't be stuck in an endless loop of trials for the rest of eternity, that sadly is probably not the case. The only exception might be whoever is consumed by Frank Stone when he comes out of the projector (pro tip for anybody who may not know - you CAN save both Sam, and Linda here. Just don't help Stan. He will die five minutes later regardless, and there is nothing you can do at any point to stop this from happening), but that's obviously not any better of a fate, since they are still alive within him, and will live the rest of eternity in agony.
Overall, the ending of this game can be summed up as, "there are fates worse than death."
@ItsHaisho The Entity still can take them even if they die because Bill was taken after he died in Left 4 Dead also it's the multiverse so there is one place out there where this never happens and everyone is fine but many universes they are all taken
@@SgtTankDempseyBill got taken right before he died.
@@ItsHaisho I actually somewhat disagree that the survivors are taken even if they die. If that was the implication, the game would have had them appear at the campfire no matter what, such as what happens if two survivors make it to the end. Since that doesn't happen, I'm lead to believe that because they died early, the Entity figured that they wouldn't make very good meals and abandoned them to their fate. Same for if you get Chris back to the past and Sam to escape through the Horologium. Although, in their cases it's probably more that the Entity can't reach them.
@justmyluck624 The entity may have just chosen to bring in whoever replaces them if they die (Claudette, Meg, et.), instead. Just like how in DBD it's not the same people every time. It cycles through them
The the premise of the game DBD is that this dark entity is collecting monsters and serial killers from across the multiverse to play one big game of murder tag
They always describe it as tag, but it’s more like Cops and Robbers.
And feed on the emotions
And the entity getting trolled by one mysterious guy
Squid game!
Yeah more a interdimentional parasitic plant using symbiotic killers to harvest emotions for it to live. It's pretty cool implications wise
The Casting of Frank Stone is a fire title for a number of reasons. 1) Frank Stone worked at a steel mill 2) he became a “character” in the Murder Mill film
i also feel like it’s a slight wordplay on “casting stones” ! really good title
It's got several underlying meanings. those two included, but you can also look at it as Augustine is trying to "cast" a Frank Stone she can rebirth to bring the Entity to her world, as she mentions she "needed to find the film where his essence was most whole/pure"
You can also view it as Frank Stone is being casted like liquid metal into a mould with the "ingredients" being the pieces of his victims.
It can also refer to casting a spell through a ritual!
It Can also means Frank being casted by the entity to see if he's worthy to join the killer crew.
They definitely got one thing right about their 80s horror inspiration. All the "teenage" characters look at least 10 years too old.
tfw u get to high school and no one is a sexy 25 year old like on Buffy
@@erikafurudo8784 Yah. Instead everyone is a kinda smelly hormonal awkward little kid in rapidly growing bodies.
@@jzderfthat's the people who work at suppermassive
Literally!😂😂 they got more wrinkles than me in my mid 20s. I was really shocked when I learned they were still in Hs
@@extrashotofespresso_ You gotta remember that back in the day people don't nearly have as good skincare products and stuff either. You try to tough it out like them in the backwaters forever and you're gonna look like your grandma or grandpa at your forties. Sam is the one guy who didn't fit in because he looks insanely young considering his stress and trauma and everything.
the theory of Chris being Augustine is very possible. Indeed why is she sucked up in the portal? Also, while introducing Augustine says: "you name is what you are, that is important to remember." and "I CALL myself Augustine Lieber.' and not "I am Augustine". i find that a weird thing to say if it is someone's name.
Never mind the theories about Chris and Augustine and the Entity, I wanna know the timeline of events concerning the 10pm screening of Murder Mill where everyone started attacking one another! Did everyone suddenly start going mad or was there a Patient Zero who suddenly snapped? When did the Police get called; before or after the Employee got stamped to death? What exploded? Why did the recording end with the Reporter repeatedly yelling "OH, GOD!"?
I WANT ANSWERS!
I was gonna comment this, it was a theory I had as well and his video just reminded me of the "I CALL myself Augustine Lieber" Also a small thread but when Sam Green catches them early on she refers to herself as "Tammy Lee Dixon" showing that shes got a proclivity towards pseudonyms
@@rellikx7519 Fine work, mate
@rellikx7519 exactly. Also in the end, IF Chris makes it to the campfire, she says that Augustine looks familiar. Could be that she reconized her from the store but that is a strech. Also, where is Chris in the 2024 timeline? At the end augustine completed the movie, because if she is Chris she already had a strip of it.
Idk I think the end credit scene debunks that
I had no idea this game was related to Dead by Daylight, so when you started to talk about an Entity, hooks and trials I was so confused and wondered how the devs managed to get away with such similarities
Well if you consider it’s made by the same Devs Behavior then it would be a bit more clear
@@rollinallonceOr the fact that the trailer said it’s in the dead by daylight universe
Or the fact the title is literally the casting of frank stone a dead by daylight story
@@rollinallonce technically, the devs in charge of this are Supermassive Games, Behavior just holds the IP
@@deancauley5745 dbd Creators worked with supermassive to make this game so technically it's developed by both
Something I theorized was that Augustine Lieber is actually the second Chris that is created if she stays in 2024 and goes back in time later. Being after being pulled through time, seeing everything in the present, and going back in time to find that she's essentially been duplicated is a very easy backstory for Augustine's pursuit of knowledge.
It also explains why the archive Linda finds includes not just information about Frank, but also the other "survivors" and places of interest to Chris and her friends.
That was actually my theory as well and then I remembered she was British 💀
@@Miunim could be a persona she made up along the way considering she’s in film
I was thinking Augustina is the old lady in the store who gave them the camera time traveling or something like that.
Nah. Cool idea tho
There's an end credits scene that shows the older Augustine bringing hee younger self from the portal
Just when I’m obsessively searching about this game, he delivers us this masterpiece ❤️🔥
Get a life
@@GrEeCe_MnKy that aplies to you aswell you are acting like a angry little troll
He has a life bro he's interested in this game like your interested in being annoying. @@GrEeCe_MnKy
Get therapy @@GrEeCe_MnKy
Amen, I was begging for this video
To be honest I wasn't expecting such a complex plot, great job Supermassive Games, and good job to you Harry.
Omg i only now understand the name of the game "the casting of frank stone" it was his tryouts to see wether he would be accepted as killer or not
I was trying to understand that as well! When they didn’t cast someone in his role I was like what? lol. Good catch. I caught the play on words though, that he was “cast” in iron forever.
I think it has more to do with the molten metal definition of casting. You pour molten metal into a cast to make a shape. The story is about molding (or casting) Frank into a killer. I don't think the Entity is treating it like tryouts, the dude is just being designed to be a killer. Also, it's a fun little thing to think about that she "casts" the film onto a screen to bring Frank back in his "killer" form.
its all 3 of these meanings at once, hope this helps! ❤
My personal take on the Christine theory: yes, she is definitely Augustine! But she originates in the timeline we see in 1980. She moves to Cedar Hills, all the stuff we see happens and they split up the film, but after that, what we don't see, is Christine being fundamentally changed by what she experienced in the mill, the portal, and her chance encounter with her future self. Perhaps she manages to find the Black Vale through her own occult research, or maybe they contact her similar to how Sam was contacted. But either way, that version of Chris joins the Black Vale and gains training and knowledge about the entity and how Frank fits in, but they need her to help assemble the necessary pieces. Since they have the technology to travel through the different timelines, Chris is able to obtain several lifetimes worth of knowledge, and I think some of those timelines involve Chris NOT moving to Cedar Hill and therefore never meeting that version's Linda, Jaime or Bonnie; hence the versions of the movie (presumably the one Maddie has) featuring Bonnie in the role we saw Chris playing in the"flashback." Instead she goes to university to be a psychologist, deliberately putting herself in the position to mentally groom Frank into a murderer. And then just repeat the cycle over and over, collecting all the occult stuff, the different versions of the movie, as well as orchestrating the entire 1963 scenario with the mill murders culminating in Jaime's kidnapping and the shootout with Sam.
Epic of Gilgamesh could be a nod to House of Ashes, since it is the oldest epic story on record, originating from Mesopotamia like Naram-Sin, Pazuzu and Lamashtu, and the bat-alien creatures/resulting vampire stories.
also, the Akkadian demon thing Augustine had in her ‘private reliquary’
There is a key part of the story where Gilgamesh descends to the Underworld to liberate his buddy Enkidu. Augustine directly cited Enkidu in her notes to be Frank’s inspiration, which makes her the cruel and unusual manipulator Ishtar. You see, Ishtar took out her spite for her advances being rejected by Gilgamesh by making his bestie die of illness. Also, the two bring wood back from a grand Cedar Forest after defeating the terrible monster Humbaba.
Murder Mill seems to be Augustine's plan B after her original plan was foiled by Sam. However that would question on how much she was involved on everything that happens in the game. Even though there are multiverse shenanigans, it is still a huge coincidence that Chris happens to come from out of town and would have a big interest in making a film at the steel mill which would help Augustine bring the entity into her world. Either Augustine has some crazy luck or she has planned for Chris to move out to Cedar Hills.
The Hidden Object Guru has a really convincing theory that Chris might actually be a variant of Lieber herself. We know Augustine Lieber isn’t her real name. After all, the Horologium’s purpose is to pull in other Liebers to collect more footage of Frank Stone. So why does it suddenly suck in Chris? Plus it makes thematic sense since they’re both fixated on making the movie.
@@DuelaDent52ok you’ve nailed it with the horologium bringing the liebers
The multiverse is overused, but it can be used to great effect by having characters confront the consequences of the actions they didn’t take
Dbd has been using the multiverse thing since 2016 before it became the normal thing in media
Carlos is the man ❤@@Carlos.Oliveira.Fan.
@@Carlos.Oliveira.Fan.it was pretty much always normal in comic books, movies just caught on late.
Look, this is the only way Frank Stone could get endlessly looped by Ellen Ripley.
It comes down to how it's used. Lately, it's just a way to revisit moments from better movies or have actors from those movies make a cameo.
For those who aren’t aware, in the DBD universe, the Entity is a god-like creature with the ability to cause realities and time to crash in on eachother, seeking the lost and evil throughout history in order to sustain itself through the ritual.
Another hint that Jaime is the baby at the start is that he plays the killer’s victim in Murder Mill, thematically connecting real events to the movie.
I been wanting story explained about this game because honestly confused about it. Glad it’s one of the best who can explain video games
I was a bit too but when I read up a bit more on the wiki of dead by daylight, combined with the context of the game it seems to be implied that Augustine, across the multiverse, is trying to perform a ritual to summon the 'entity' to do so she needs 'killers' and 'victims'. This version of her seems to 'create' frank stone but the ritual isn't able to be completed thanks to Sherriff Green, however it seems she's able to resurrect Frank by assembling his captured essence across the film strips collected across the multiverse. Ultimately it seems regardless of who lives/dies, Augustine herself is sacrificed by the killer to the entity, which (trapping the 'victims' in a 'trial' which is ultimately the game Dead by Daylight. This trial seems to possibly exist outside of space and time which would explain why the original quartet of victims in DbD are 'never seen nor heard from again' despite possibly escaping their killers?
@itsdantaylor at the end of the game there is 2 figures blacked out around the firepit and it's quite clear it's meg with her pig tails and Dwight
@@scvrlett18That’s only if the other two Survivors don’t make it to the campfire. By the end of the game you can have the core four (Madi, Linda, Sam and Chris if she stayed in 2024) all there, and whoever didn’t make it is replaced by the silhouette of the OG four Survivors from Dead by Daylight.
@DuelaDent52 fair enough I only made it with Linda and the cop so makes sense why I seen that but point still stands they didn't throw out the og survivors they are present in this game
Bit of a suckfest but I'll concede, it was needed and great
Christine does remark during the ending if she makes it to the campfire in some endings, that she, Christine, feels like Augustine looks familiar to her, like that she is a mirror of herself
I thought she was just connecting the dots between the lady in the curiosity store and Augustine. After all, she only met the curiosity seller earlier that day, if we look at it from her perspective.
If the Chris is indeed Augustine, then the comment about familiarity is much more interesting and intriguing.
Can always count on Harry to deliver the bangers
True!
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For fans of horror games, whether single player or asymmetric multiplayer (in DBD's case), this is probably one of the biggest horror crossover games ever. Being a SuperMassive Games fan, I admit to being intrigued when I saw people like HiddenObjectGuru speculating stuff from the trailers and BTS stuff. Since people remember the villains/killers of horror movies better than the heroes, in most cases, I mostly stick to watching/memorizing the basics of killer lore concerning Dead by Daylight and Behavior. This game may be focused on doling out DBD easter eggs, from the gameplay to the collectibles, but I believe fans of Until Dawn finally have the spiritual successor game they deserve, ultra nice since the Until Dawn remake/rerelease is less than a month away now.
Thanks for covering this anticipated, ambitious, and rather intriguing game.
I personally believe Chris was also the old lady in the trinkets shop. Would explain why she happened to bring them the exact camera to capture Frank stone. If they never had that camera they never would’ve been able to stop him.
Finally someone explained this game, thanks bro!
18:24 "She's placed somewhere rather inconvenient."
I don't know why that made me laugh so hard. 🤣🤣
That's such an interesting way to describe her predicament.
Thank you. I needed a good chuckle today.
33:43 That's Sofia lamb from bioshock 2 talking, no wonder Frank went insane
Socialism will do that to you.
Harry man, you are the GOAT. Your voice just delivers all lore perfectly. No other chanell here on yt does it quite like you man keep it up 🙌 🙌
I don’t play or know much about DBD but I think this is a great way to introduce new characters to it and I hope Supermassive Games does more stuff like this!
You're the best Harry! Thanks for the speedy upload can't believe you got it done so fast 🎉
Frank “The Stone” Johnson.
I keep wanting to call him "Frank Castle".
I choked on my drink laughing at this
You smell what he’s cooking? It’s Jaime😢
First playthrough I got so many people killed. The one that hurt the most was Madi because I gave her that stupid necklace
@@DezorianGuy Because I'm an idiot and I felt bad and thought I made the right decisions. *crys* I thought I was doing the right thing.
If it makes u feel any better, it was either certain death or repeated death thru the entities trials
@@red_swan_ Considering death is not an escape - she might still be inside the Entity. (Bill was taken after he died and the Entity revivef him)
I gave her the necklace but she made it to the bonfire
@@Jackieb741 How? I tried everything to save her.
Hell yeah man, been waiting for this one.
same here man im going to enjoy this game so much :D
Thank you so much for doing a story explained video on this game! I love these types of games, and you do such a great job of explaining them! Keep up the great work!
So pretty much, this about Augustine trying to find her prefect champion for the trials. Makes me wonder if there is others just jumping around timelines and universes searching for their champion for the trials as well. Sounds like a big underworld gambling ring for the elites and we all just the pawns 😆
That’s basically our real life world. We the pawns.
@@GamingHarryYT you ain't lying
I have been waiting for this to come out for months FINALY!
I had anticipated that “the CASTING of Frank STONE” was a pun but damn the cast steel bit made me laugh 😂
Also, gotta love Supermassive 🧡🧡🧡
I really liked this as a tie-in game and sort of a prequel lore story to Dead by Daylight. The ending certainly was a "I know that thing" moment.
This game is really good. Maybe even my favorite from this developer. I personally have a few criticisms, however. First, I wish they had given us more crossover with the different timelines, but I doubt they wanted the scope of this game to be too insane. 😅 Secondly, we didn't get a motive for why Augustine wants to bring this horrible entity into existence or how she even knows about it. Also, its weird that she is shown to be working alone, but again, they probably didn't want the scope of the game to be too large. And third, I was most disappointed that Stanford didn't play a bigger role in the plot. He's the only character that has no connection to any other timeline, which is strange. I kept waiting for it to be revealed that he was Augustine's son or something or maybe a member of the cult. Anyway, great video. Thank you for breaking the story down. 👌
I think Augustine has employees as is written in a note when Madi is arriving to the mansion. However and most interesting is that she heavily insisted on all her employee personnel to be laid off while she had visitors. Her manager of housekeeping said he would only be one call away. Why would she not want them there is the question?
@michaeldones2320 Yes, she has a housekeeping staff, but I was talking about people working with her on the occult. I'm assuming she told her house staff to leave because they are not involved in her plan of bringing the entity to life.
Wait, with the alternate timelines with minor or massive differences, is this a way to explain the different skins for the survivors? They aren't just cosmetic, they are technically canon to another universe?
Yup! The tomes sometimes touch on this. It’s also why there can be multiple of the same Survivor in one match, they’re all different versions of each other.
Probobly
yep and the descriptions… they couldve just been taken when they wore those costumes
Its something people never really think about. Of course they'd have to, or everyone is just living together while xenomorphs, the t virus, demons and whatever other horror shinanigans contained to one universe, which sounds like hell XD
Maybe the 2024 film didn't release Frank because they didn't find his lair? In the 1980 timeline, Frank only appeared after they started filming the hand so it would make sense that maybe they didn't find it in the 2024 timeline?
Worth pointing out as well: The Imperiatti mentioned are also referenced in the main Dead by Daylight game. Two of the survivors, Felix and Élodie, are the children of members of the Imperiatti. It is noted in their lore that Felix and Elodie were part of a group of five such kids, calling themselves the Pariahs. Perhaps at some point, if Chen has a child, they will enter the fog too.
Been waiting for this. Thanks Harry.
Been waiting for you to do this 🔥🔥
Hey harry! Always glad to see when you upload, big fan of the content and the story explained/lore and order series in general! Glad to see another great video come up!
You got a bit of stuff wrong about Entity, it doesn't really consume matter or worlds, but instead feeds off of emotions. Entity itself is just an amalgam of them and trials exist to create as much of them as possible. It also doesn't *have* to be summoned to kidnap someone from a world, it kinda just snatches whoever from wherever as long as they might be of use to it.
No, the Entity DOES consume worlds whole if it’s able to, it just doesn’t do it every time it pulls people into its realm. The Champion was a special case since he was cooked up by the Black Vale to specifically draw the Entity’s attention and was assembled from hundreds of different Franks.
The wiki states it does eat worlds lol.
Been waiting for a video on this. Thanks mate
I make a vote for Frank Stone, his DBD name be, "The Champion" since he was essentially bred for this, he was molded for it. And eventually chosen by the Entity to become a killer and to bring in survivors for the Trials.
Orrrr call him idk Frank Stone? Lmao
@ProGamer-lk9qw Woah...why didn't I think of that....
Dude you realize all the killers in DBD have special nicknames right? Like Michael Myers is "The Shape" and Pyramidhead is "The Executioner"
@@ProGamer-lk9qw Every DBD killer has a special one to two word title with the word "The" in front of it: The Dark Lord, The Huntress, or The Doctor, for example.
@@dylanmorse8199 my bad I didnt know that lmao
It's obviously "The Champion" because u can find his doll at then end of the game, and all the dolls are named after the nickname of the killer (ex : the doll of the Trapper is named like this and not "Evan McMillan"
Excellent timing! Love your videos 🤩
I like the resident every vibes the opening mansion scenes give off. Maybe it’s just me but a giant mysterious puzzle mansion is cool to me. Great video Harry!
I will always love and appreciate your videos on games like these because you take the time to tell the story in depth and explain the branching choices and how they affect the story as a whole. Sometimes people only tell the story they got, but you record all segments and show what could have been and I just want you to know it makes the videos so much more enjoyable.
finally i was waiting for you to tackle this one
I was SO waiting for you to tackle this game
....after two VERY VERY long attempts to watch 6-7 hour plays through of this slog of a game....this is exactly what I needed .This game was too slow and I don't play DBD so I don't think it was made for people like me. Good to see an easy to follow recap. Thank you.
Honestly I think this is too slow for DBD players as well we just find the lore building really intriguing.
But for a Supermassive/Dark Pictures (or The Quarry/Until Dawn) type game this makes a lot of sense.
They still haven’t mastered the ability to go back and change your decisions imo but this does do it the best with “the cutting room floor”)
All of your videos are an absolute treat! Very detailed lore videos and let's plays.
Thank you for your consistent uploads and hard work! 🎉
Something i really hope happens is we get more games like this with other killers from dead by daylight. Since many of the killers have origins we could playout the story of their origins in a different game.
This is kinda unrelated but I have a cool idea where at the end of DBD’s lifespan they could do an event where depending on if more survivors or more killers win a certain amount of matches as a community they could have an ending to the game with like a cutscene or final battle or something that’s good or bad depending on the outcome. Don’t know why I thought of it but just thought it was a cool idea lmao
I was waiting for you to put this one out! ❤ Even after watching gameplay I still don't know what the hell is going on, but I always do after you. 🙌🏽
Been waiting for this!!!!!!
All I can say is Thank God for Gaming Harry!
Thanks for the video.
This is great. Thanks for all your hard work.
Just came to the comments to say how much I love the content, can't wait for more videos tbh always top tier
36:24 OMG, today is Friday the 13th of september!!!! spooky lol
I hope they make a sequel so they can give it an actual ending.
I really like the story.
An actual ending? You must be really clueless
@@nathanthomson777 All survivors just sitting in a campfire? That's not an ending, that's just backstory for the characters to appear in DBD.
This needs an actual ending where all questions are answered and all the characters fates are resolved.
Who are Ted, and more importantly, Augustine?
What happened to Jaime, Chris and Robert?
How are they gonna escape the entity?
How did several timelines intertwined?
How different characters from different timelines converged together?
Many questions.
@@JRRR92that is 100% an ending. Not all endings need to be happy and absolute.
Amazing work as always. I love the depth of analysis and your voicework is so engaging.
I screamed lord "whaaaaaat?" As you said "then the game ends." This was thrilling and i wanted to know more. I think you are right with Augustiner being Chris. Was my guess too. Awesome video like always! 😊
19:57 Well, I see someone saw "13 Ghosts". 😄
I have actually been waiting for your video when i saw this released.
Was waiting for this
thank you so much for the time that obviously you take in making this videos , theres people out there doing the same but you will be my favorite always , love how you narrate seriuously
hope you are doing great 😉
Love it when a lore and order drops
BEEN WAITING FOR THIS
LETS GO!!!!!!!!!!!
I was so hoping this would be your next episode! This is my favorite series on the internet.
Aaaaaaaah i have to wait because of the spoilers BUT I WILL BE BACK ! Thank you for the great video in general, i had a blast discovering your channel this summer !
as none of those characters was in DBD currently i just assumed the only cannon ending to this was everyone dead no one survives because you still see dwight, claudette and jake andi i think meg at the campfire
Linda Castle has to be a reference to William Castle a gimmick horror director from the late 50's (directed The Tingler, House on Haunted Hill, and 13 Ghosts), right?
The scene at 19:56 of the chamber is straight out of the 90's 13 Ghosts remake and the whole theme of movies transporting souls through time-space is very in keeping with Castle's Gimmick-y "4D" film experiences.
Well i have been following harry for so long currently at 400k + subs
I definitely think Chris and Augustine are connected. Possibly in the 1980 timeline, Augustine existed but never fully committed to the cult of the entity but like the other Augustine’s she still has a drive to explore forbidden knowledge. She has children and eventually Chris is born and has an interest in the macabre. She learns about Frank and the part of her that is a past Augustine awakens. That would explain why she was so obsessed overnight with Frank and why she had no issues with filming a crime scene. The portal opens for her because she is a descendant of Augustine and has collected some of the essence of Frank and so her time in that world is over. Of course there are some overlap with Old Augustine who had traveled there. I think Augustine is replacing other versions of herself with the horoglorium (?) so that she can be in any timeline in perpetuity.
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Still gotta give this man credit for his Alan Wake 2 law and order. I've fallen asleep to that video countless times
oohhhh this is quick! 🤩
More Gaming Harry!! Yea 😎
The theory of Christine and Augustine being same is sick. 🔥🔥😲
The Chris theory also makes sense because there was the one timeline where Bonnie was in the movie, presumably a timeline without Chris
Never played dead by daylight. After paying $40 the game was very worth the money if you like graphics, an animated story, relaxing and pressing a button, changing the scenes of a movie on the fly and feeling like you’re in a scary movie. Now I will say I feel the game was very short; it lacked substance when you walked around to look for things and I feel like this game was an introduction for a character for another game. I had some friends say it’s a new character for the next dead by daylight game. I’ve never played that game but I bought frank stone because I bought the quarry. The quarry is definitely longer than frank stone. Frank stone seems like really cool tv show short and sweet but I felt they could’ve added more gameplay or scenes for the money. I bought the game Friday or Saturday. And it Monday and I just beat the game and watched this explanation video. I’m going to play a few more times but it’s a very short game for those expecting tog et. A week or two out of this game. I might get that playing the story mode a few times seeing the different outcomes but I played this game two hours today and three yesterday and barely 1 on Saturday and I’m sure I bought the game on Saturday
Been hoping for a vid like this after i beat this game🤩🤩 great video
Cant wait for the sequel where the Punisher hunts down all the DBD monsters, The Casting of Frank Castle
I know more about random horror games then I thought I would because of you harry lmao 😂
Man, the theory about Chris and Augustine is mind blowing. Nice one!
"It followed the formula of their previous games such as Until Dawn & The Quarry"
Dark Pictures Anthology: 😢
Edit: also thanks for the story explain cause ngl, the last 15 min of the game left me so confused
Yeah. Reason I didn’t mention them is that people far too often tend to unfairly compare Dark Pictures to Until Dawn. The Dark Pictures are more ‘cheesy’ B-Movie horror style. Where Until Dawn, The Quarry and TCOFS have a more serious tone.
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[Sorry for the essay in advance]
I'd argue for that cause as much as the characters can have snark behavior or maybe have some 'funny' moments, they're far in between.
Man of Medan, I'll admit I don't remember much from but from what I remember after the ship raiders take over the boat, it's pretty much serious 100% from there
Little Hope, although Daniel, Taylor, Angela & John can have a lot of back and forth because they all share a distain for each other, they still take everything seriously and believe each other as much as they want to alleviate the situation [John in particular]
House of Ashes I don't remember much from either, but I know the main cast jokes around in the helicopter scene but I think they were going for the kind if stuff you might hear from a group of militia, but idk. But really, after they fall into the caverns and discover the old temple, from what I remember, they stay at a pretty straight consistent story & don't lean into much comedy.
The Devil In Me, this cast is very snarky, sarcastic & spiteful like Little Hope, but cranked up, but after Jamie and Charlie "kill" the grounds keeper after meeting the real DuMet for the 1st time, they keep on a consistent level of blending the scare factor and putting in some 'relieving' bits such as Mark & Kate talking about her Amethyst Crystal.
I know there's a lot of comedic parts that are injected before and a little in the main plot, but that shouldn't take away from the story at hand, most of the time when the funny hahaha are put in the story is to relieve the player from feeling anxious through the whole game.
The characters are made to dislike each other, but as the story progresses, they have to learn that they need to stand & work together or else most of, if not everyone dies.
I just don't get cause a game series has a few funny moments between all the scary stuff it just becomes 'B-Movie' or 'B-Games'
I just watched Gab Smolders live stream this game and it left me so confused! So glad you’ve covered this game!! ❤
I was so scared you wouldn’t do this one but pleasantly surprised you did!
Oh hell yeah I love timeline fuckery like this! And from your explanation, it seems like they pulled it off pretty well, at least if Chris is accounted for like you said at the end. I know this was a lore video rather than an analysis one, but I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts about how this works as a game as a whole and in comparison to other Supermassive Games
I'd like to know more about the "protective talisman" of murder victims, the one referred to in the book Augustine left out for Madi and Linda to find, and the locket that Madi can find later. Obviously, the book was a trap, and nothing good can come of it, but I'm curious whether there's a DBD lore reason as to why.
Damn, never knew these games existed too until i saw this video...
Maddie and Heimei look like they could be interesting survivors in DBD with everyone else being a legendary skin
Jaime
Also, it’s not mentioned here, but I think it’s implied the old sheriff (the one who took credit for stopping Frank Stone) is either part of the Black Vale too or was paid off by Lieber to not look any farther into the goings on at the Mill.
bravo explaining this. it was perfect. I was on he fence with the game and this made a whole lot more sense!
Supermassive Games needs to make a horror anthology game with many stories from a good show like Black Mirror, Tales from the Crypt, Tales from the Darkside or The Twilight Zone. They need to have like 5 good stories that can be played and when you pass each of the 5 stories you can unlock other stories that also have multiple endings.
Time to refresh my DBD lore and rewatch this banger in a few again
Yesterday I was just watching a playthrough of this game on horror bro channel and I was thinking man I can't wait for Henry to do and explain video on this game and today I wake up to this video🎉🎉🎉 thank you for the videos Man this is another great one in the books, again you did a great job love your content and can't wait to see more videos🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
18:21 That camera is becoming Camera Obscura
I love the theory of Chris being Augustine, especially if, not all the time, but shaped by her time travel experience? Like being thrown 40 years in the future, seeing some insanely weird stuff, and then just going back might be enough to turn a girl to cult worship.