Does Football Have A Problem With Nepotism?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 เม.ย. 2021
- We like to think of sport and football as a great big meritocracy, where the cream always rises to the top whether that be in regards to players or managers.
But is that really the case?
From Manchester United legend Alex Ferguson in the Premier League to Zinedine Zidane's son Enzo and his current trial with MLS outfit Inter Miami, HITC Sevens casts a close eye on nepotism in football, and whether it's a problem we ought to be talking about. - กีฬา
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Nepotism exists in every walk of life. It’s why I’m happy that I’m no longer working in an office where the bosses sons were fast tracked into positions of power.
Societal issue not football related.
@@TobyLerone-yn3rr it very much is football related lmfao. You ever played Sunday league? Well I have, and in one team I played for the captain of the team was the coach’s son, he was absolutely dreadful at football and it hurt other players who were much better but didn’t get as much affection and interest from the coach.
@@sampallas265 It's Societal you wet bin bag
@@TobyLerone-yn3rr Societal issues affect Football, in this case very directly. There's no separation of one from the other. Football is apart of society.
@@wandilemtambo9962 By that logic Quaver packets rolling about on the pavement like tumbleweed is part of society
Whoever disliked this video was the coach’s son that always got picked
You mean mason Mount 😂😂
Remember my dad being my Sunday league coach, I scored a 3 shot hat trick and got an assist in a 4-0 cup final victory....wasn’t even close to being considered for MOTM 😂
3 Cold Capricorn 😂😂😂😂
@@unlockedaccount I forgot to add! From CDM!!!
@@hemaangbhandari1754 Mason Mount is actually class though
Don’t forget how Ali Dia got a game just by saying he was George Weah’s cousin - even fake nepotism is a thing! 😂
That fact that he actually pulled it off baffles me to this day! One of the most impressive frauds in football history for sure
There's a Brazilian who did even better than that
@@GuinessOriginal care to share the story ?
@@jabaghosh3392 Or ask Alfie to do so
@@jabaghosh3392 there's a few videos on TH-cam and stories on the Internet about it, search fake Brazilian footballer, it's a pretty famous story
“It’s not what you know, it’s who you know”
That’s one thing I’ve learnt in the world of work since I left school 12 years ago.
Yup, everyone i know who i know how they got their job is actually through people they know weirdly enough, this is anecdotal and obviously isn't true across everyone but its interesting to me atleast nonetheless
And that's how a society/organization goes from being Exceptional to having economic crisis, social unrest, extreme radicalisation, etc. If you want to prosper your system should be based on competence, not the good old fashioned boys' club.
Amen 🙏
Makes you wonder why they even bother forcing us to do GCSEs.
You bet . I now understand how folks with money still send their thick kids to fee paying schools . If those characters are at least charismatic they’ll maybe strike it lucky when an old schoolmate makes it big 🙄
Is not just a football issue, music, film and celeb culture is rife with it.
life in general tbh
Sometimes it’s corruption and money laundering but sometimes people come from humble beginnings and want to put their people on too
Film having so much nepotism involved is because the business is so based upon networking. If you work in a business and a member of your family wants to work in said business, you’ll put them in touch with people who can help if you can’t help them yourself.
@@marcusgotti8231 It can work in many ways, but it’s still nepotism
Just look at Beyonces daughter getting an Emmy award 😂
Gotta hand it to Diego Simeone who has resisted the temptation to sign his son Giovanni to Atletico madrid. With all due respect to his son who seems a skillful enough forward in his own right, however his output in terms of goals scored has followed a pattern of being decent in the first season and then trailing progressively the next season. It doesn’t seem like he’s been pulling up any trees and on merit would not have elbowed out Griezmann or Suarez for a starting place.
And before somebody points it out, yes I’m aware that his dad brought him into the river plate youth setup when he was appointed head coach there but since then he’s not followed his dad and has forged his own path. And I can respect that a lot more than a mediocre player who gets given a squad place at a top team ahead of a player more deserving in terms of ability and suitability to the needs of the team.
Federico chiesa son of enrico chiesa is pure talent.
@cogamers84 agreed
@@deepakrai3495 much like Erling Haaland who is one of the most sought after forwards at present. His father was a footballer in the nineties who played for Manchester city and Leeds United yet his son started his career in his native Norway, got picked up by RB Salzburg before rising to prominence at Borussia Dortmund. His father probably helped open a few doors very early on but talent and hard work got him to where he is now.
@@unstoppableExodia I know his story as well.
also respect to Peter Schmeichel in that regard, best goalkeeper in Manchester's history but said he wants nothing to with his son's playing career and with that he made his own career and became a legend at a completely different club
If it wasn’t for agents Choupo-Moting wouldnt have managed to get from Stoke to PSG and then to Bayern
His agent must be a blackmail expert 😂
@@Ccccc-mi3tr well he is the agent of a black male weheey
@@n0body550 He's mixed race
@@tysonmcduggan6870 i know i was making joke wasn’t supposed to be 100% factual
@@n0body550 My bad
I'm pretty sure every facet of human civilization has a nepotism problem, not just football.
Absolutely spot on its societal doesn't belong being discussed on this channel
@@TobyLerone-yn3rr are you that proud of knowing a certain word that you spam it under half of the comments? 😂 It's applied to a certain context, football in this case. You should view these vids as columns, the writer/creator wants to create food for thought amongst his audience.
@@lillexus5589 Purple drink profile calling yourself Lil Lexus. I think im do e here 😌 Embarrassment!
@@TobyLerone-yn3rr whatever makes you fall asleep at night man, or do you consider that to be an societal issue aswell?
@@lillexus5589 Falling asleep? Mate hold the L and move on.
During Ferguson's reign at Manchester United there was also a player called Oliver Gill, who was the son of the Chief Executive, David Gill. He was promoted in to the first team but had 0 appearances for the Red Devils and retired from football at the age of 20 to go to University.
Might as well
Apparently he wasn’t a bad player, just not premier league standard and when he found that out he started to think about a career that would earn him more money which is fair, especially at 20. This article explains it a lot www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news/oliver-gill-exclusive-interview-manchester-united-academy-a7932781.html%3famp
lol. the nepotism at united was unbelievable but for some reason the scandal is only a blip once in a while then everyone moves on
The son-in-law of former FIFA President João Havelange, Ricardo Teixeria, was president of the CBF for more than a decade and his granddaughter was part of the organizing committee for the 2014 World Cup.
But I'm sure it was all because of their talent.
Lol😂
Under Havelange's tenure, FIFA used to return "unsolicited payments" back to the sender, with an instruction that bribe money should be paid directly to Mr Havelange.
Nepotism is human nature. We favour family and friends that we know and are similar too. We just crucify those that do it when they have power but accept it when it's us doing it. "Everyone draws the line just beyond what they themselves are doing" - unknown
It’s too true. Humans like to think they’re evolved, intelligent and logical but will rely on instinct just like any other animal.
@@007Fusiion we are better than other animals.
@@bigt1913 are crows better then eagles?
You might accept it. Don't put US in the same basket.
@@youtubenewsreview7365 not the topic
You know nepotism is rife in football when Jack Sullivan (the son of West Ham joint chairman David) is running the Womens club (who are currently battling relegation)
He is not the Coach though
The guy running Dorking would do a, better job
@@Micfri300 If Mike Ashley can be given partial blame for Newcastle's poor performances, then Jack can bear some of the blame for how poorly the West Ham Women are doing.
@@Marz2727 not the head coach though whereas bruce is.
@@GuinessOriginal the guy managing Dorking is also there owner mate
In Africa it's like a ocean of nepotism and they won't even try to deny or hide.
Same here in the Dutch national team. It's seems like there is massive Ajax nepotism. So far that Danny Blind made Daley captain and calling him up while Daley was a bench warmer at Man U.
For a more serious comment, nepotism is in every field. From the moment I left high school, I was told it’s important to study, but it’s even more important to network. It’s not about what you know, it’s who you know. Should it be that way? A strong case could be made for yes and no. As HITC said, for every good case, there’s probably 5-6 bad ones.
Eden Hazard and Gianluigi Donnarumma demanded that Chelsea and AC Milan sign their brothers as a part of their deal.
What? Damn!?
Same with Fabio and Rafael when they joined United. They only wanted Rafael but he refused to leave Brazil unless Fabio came with him lol it just turned out that both would have decent careers anyway
Ironic, considering that nowadays Eden lives in his brother's shadow, not the other way around
@@khoiduongminh5111 Thorgan’s shadow?? Lol Eden’s been out injured for the last 2 seasons and Thorgan has had maybe 5 good games
At Brighton we had a youth coach who went on to be a manager during this time we had three of his family who came through the youth and were signed by him' Hinshelwood era; 2 of his nephews and his son (edit two through the youth one signed)
Good call that..
Although Adam Hinshelwood did go on to make 100 appearances and featured in the England U21 squads briefly so I can perhaps see why this Hinshelwood made the grade.
Especially during the pre Bloom years when we were struggling to survive and couldn't go toe to toe with other clubs in our division financially, any youngster showing promise will certainly be fast tracked into the 1st team.
But naturally it always helps your case when your dad is firmly ingrained into the day to day running of the club...
@@keislayzell9255 Yes Adam want on to a be a hero at the club, dont think he quite reached the God Status of someone like Cullip, Mayo or Dunk but we have a good history of young defenders at the club; Kerry Mayo (the ginger king), Joel Lynch, Adam El-Abd, Adam Virgo, Tommy Elphick, Steve Cook (not for us of course), Ben White and Lewis Dunk more recently; why only 2 of these are "Prem Standard" at the time when you cant afford to pay players more then 1k a week you need love for the club and this is where family ties can be very useful.
I was kicked off my team after our first training session where it took well over 40 shots to get past me because the teams chairman’s son forgot to register and even though I was already registered and clearly good enough for the team they kicked me off.
Not playing now this season and I just feel so depressed all the time. Thank you for your videos though, I listen to them every afternoon here in Australia and it really helps me.
Sadly most teams in my country only really accept the people who are Greek or Macedonian and because I’m German/American I’ve always been mistreated and forgotten.
hope you’re doing well
That's a really sad story. Hope you are doing well.
@Gromovnik 88 I agree
Stay strong mate your time will come 💪💪
@Gromovnik 88 chill out mate. I’m sure he has first hand experience of the situation and you don’t
Day 16: Best 7 Caribbean Footballers of all time. (Had to either play for a Caribbean Nation or be born in the Caribbean and be uncapped)
Dwight yorke
Sterling
Wes Morgan and Dwight York
Ricardo fuller
Stern john & Russel Latapy
When Carlo came in and it was announced Davide would be his assistant, I was hesitant and a bit unsure. It turns out he does all the set piece work for us and we have been very good at them this season. Not nepotism, he’s just good at what he does and Carlo trusts him.
I think he made this point in the video. This is probably one of the few success stories from nepotism. He kept the job because he's very good at it, but only got the job because his father was the first team coach
@@gbeworooyinmiebi922 I think the real key point though is that Carlo trusts him. Yeah it’s his son but he doesn’t have to worry about getting stabbed in the back from his assistant if times get tough or if an opportunity presents itself. The level of peace of mind for a guy in such a high pressure role as Carlo would be massive.
@@budgie1323that's what anyone who's ever put a relative where they shouldn't be has said from the beginning of time. Bullshit
@@josecipriano3048suppose it’s a good thing then that as the manager he can pick and choose his own staff then. You may have a problem with it, that’s fine, but it’s not you picking the staff appointments. If you ever get the opportunity to be in that position, hopefully you’ll be free to pick your own staff as you see fit.
Great video, I find is especially interesting when players include their siblings in their deals such a odd ask (Hazard, Donnarouma etc)
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I think nepotism is something even the fans take part in. I personally got excited when I heard Dennis Bergkamp's son was on trial with Arsenal. Surely he will follow his dads footsteps and be a massive hit! Well, I guess not.
That's why I respect Simone who said he would never sign his son
it be funny if his son became a balondor winner and wanted to play for his father on a free
I reckon it’ll happen 1 say since his son is a talent, but he has to be more consistent. He’s hadn’t hit his prime yet tho so he’ll get there
You always ask the right questions and you present a well balanced, well informed insight regardless of your personal view and opinions
Which isn't the easiest thing to do. Good job on commenting his skill...definitely top 7 HITC comments of all time lol
@@dodgerkid05 🤝
Love these kind of videos 👌🏾👌🏾 top work
This was a great watch dude, well done
Fantastic video Alf. I'd love to see a 'job for the boys' series, because you'd definitely need more than one video to cover that
Great video. Honestly, as others have pointed out, this is an issue across society as a whole. Most positions and opportunities in the world go to those whom have personal connections or failing that, because their "face fits". I'm glad you realised that meritocracy doesn't really exist in our society.
Love the long, meandering intros, I was actually confused that it was the wrong video, 😂. Lobe the content. Remember the rangers video on the 15th May
The fact that all 3 hazard brothers at some point played for chelsea still shocks me to this day (well, 2 of them at least had the skill, even if thorgen was never given any chances, but i assume he would be a good squad player with his current abilities for like a FA Cup match or a 6th CL group match against some greek team)
Lol, Thorgan is actually quite good. You’re underestimating him
I Played with Charlie Savage and Harvey Neville (Robbie Savage and Phil Neville’s sons) and they were good players don’t get me wrong, but there were so many better players who struggled to even make academy level. They both play for United U18s now and have professional contracts. So yeah, what I’m trying to say is football definitely has a nepotism problem.
I played against Alex Bruce and his first touch was sunday league level. Its crazy mate how many of these ex pros kids become pros. For every Lampard there the examples you have listed
Great video, great analysis!
Balanced and informative as usual. Well done.
Thanks Tore.
Amazing video! I can tell you worked hard on it!
Great work as usual Alfie 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
at least simeone isnt nepotistic, he said he cant talk about his son, because he is another teams player
Nepotism works directly and indirectly
Yeah how do you think his son got his job at that club
He's not bad. I mean not a high profile striker, but decent.
@@alexhill9423 by scoring 12 goals in his first season in italy??
There are so many Argentinians that can play for Atletico at once.
Purely on the pitch (not talking about gifting jobs etc. in the silhouettes which definitely a real thing) football is probably the purest form of meritocracy because only the best make it out on the pitch on a consistent basis. You can't cheat results. As the son of a famous footballer you will most definitely get an easier shot at the top leagues like Enzo Zidane or Daniel Maldini, but if you do not have the skills and consistency to churn out results like Federico Chiesa or Erling Haaland, then you will fade back to the lower leagues sooner or later.
There's an interesting exception though I can think of though which is quite disgusting. The contract of Gianluigi Donnarumma had in it that Milan had to sign his brother Antonio Donnarumma as a keeper too. This means that he got a contract in the first team purely due to nepotism, and it's a position where pitch results don't matter because they don't exist. Antonio gets the comfy position of a third choice keeper over someone else no matter how bad or good he is.
Was scrolling down for a mention at this situation at Milan, and you are 100% right!
To be fair it’s not as bad as it looks, he’s not a bad third choice keeper because he’s really only there to keep the other keepers sharp during training anyway because he won’t see the pitch. I don’t agree with Gianluigi forcing Milan’s hand in the situation but like I said, he isn’t a bad third choice. He’s played first team football in serie b so 3rd choice for Milan is about his standard
A good example of nepotism in football is when Danny Blind kept picking his son Daley Blind for the Netherlands National Team. He wasn't good enough at time, coasting on the beautiful pass to Van Persie against Spain in 2014. Only recently, I would argue he should be in the team.
One of the best videos you've ever made
I have to say, this is my new favourite football channl. Been binge watching all your videos. Love your work. Keep it up bro!:D
It exists from the earliest of ages when your Saturday football team has a kid who can’t run, wears big glasses and picks the ball up mid play and your manager is telling him (his son) he’s playing really well.
Day 20: Rank all CR7’s strike partners.
Since waited for a while now, I came up with two more.
One club man XI with current players only.
7 players with most own goals who plays in TOP 5 leagues right now.
@DaGe PaPo must be new
@DaGe PaPo it’s not a good suggestion either
@DaGe PaPo ranking Ronaldo’s ‘strike partners’ as if the guy spent his career playing in 4-4-2 systems
@@wavell14 Search "messi strike partners" before bullshitting.
@@michaelay4900 why would I do that you absolute clown. Your suggestion is absolutely awful. Suggesting a winger/inside forward/lone striker’s ‘strike partners’.
Great video. I hope people watch it till the end, the last few minutes was a fantastic conclusion.
Football is always gonna reflect society, it's been a microcosm for the longest time. Those with power always decide where it disseminates.
Good video. One of the best so far.
When we were kids, my dad was our football manager and he ripped me to shreds. He was way harsher on me than on anyone else haha
Yeah haha my brother coached me and he would yell at me the most
You were probably always on the field though.
@@fernandoanaya1903 not wrong
Another interesting video Alfie!
Bravo! Very well written and a topic you didn't need to touch. Nice job
Best video yet. Keep making content like this.
This was a great video, I don’t have much else to say
Alfie, could you do a video about Sheffield Wednesday and what has happened since Dejphon Chansiri bought the club?
First good idea I’ve seen in this comment section filled with boring suggestions
Good idea! Their current condition looks disquieting.
Immensely disappointed that Ali Dia the alleged cousin to George Weah and the legendary Southampton signing didn’t get at least an honorable mention!
Nepotism has been happening since the dawn of mankind and it will continue till the twilight, it's human nature (for most) to look out for family.
Very good topic coverage.
It's human nature to help your kids if you are a parent. It's also human nature to hire people you know or kind of know vs. a total stranger who looks great on their c.v. and has excellent references.
So what's that got to do with discussing it or it being right pretty sure most people understand that it's human nature being that were all ehhhhh human
This video was very well done!
Very well researched video 👏🏻
The saying goes: it doesn't matter what you know, but who you know.
This video reminded of the anger I felt when Ramon Diaz accommodated his sons at River Plate in 2013-2014. You could tell those guys weren't doing anything.
Day 45: 7 worst players who scored a hattrick in either the premier or champions league
Definitely think you should do some more videos on this topic!
I thought I was first but people have a full time camping job in the comments
@@ronang2507 stop ruining the comments section
Amazing video, Alfie
Brilliant video follow up on owners would be cool!! Wish you had a blog too?? Thanks brilliant content
Good vid, Alfie. Good journalism
My club dundalk fc owner Matt hullsizer appointed his dad who’s never worked in football to be our chairman and is trying to overpower the manager on lineups tactics and wanted a phone on the sideline so he could interfere with tactics
We need a part 2. This is interesting
Very well done video 👏🏿
Love these style of videos! “ there is nothing more helpless than a rich mans child” 🤣
An absolutely fantastic video.
I did wonder if you would mention the McKays - they're a somewhat more obscure example, but a great one nonetheless. Willie was also heavily involved at Doncaster Rovers for a short period, although his sons had been there for some time already. They attended the local Independent School Hill House.
In all fairness, Jack in particular was superb at youth level. Willie’s time at Rovers has become known locally as "The Experiment", which would make for a great documentary topic.
Indeed! Not just by relative and friends, but by name and background. It happened to me in my life of amateur football.
Masterpiece. As someone who enjoys both politics and football this hit home really nicely.
It’s frustrating for someone trying to make their own way into an industry where there’s people who essentially got there as a birthright.
From a parental perspective you would want your kids to be the ones getting the best opportunities.
I think most would it’s natural to want success for your own, regardless of if there’s someone more deserving.
I can confidently say if I was a manager or involved with a club, I’d have my nephews in the academy if they wanted to be footballers.
This is very true and very prevalent at smaller countries.
I remember Anthony Pulis as he started out at Pompey when his dad was the manager there.
Don't forget Odegaard's dad, who was a 'youth trainer' at Real Madrid with no experience whatsoever :)
Odegaard is now proving his worth world-class
I'd argue that having a family member as an assistant manager is probably fine, some families have that dynamic and can bounce off one another, when it happens with players though it's a lot worse because that's more directly affecting another players career (potentially)
When this opened up with a discussion about agents, I had to Google nepotism to make sure it still meant what I understood it to mean. Glad I stuck it out 😂
Day 29 - The Biggest transfers of EVERY summer transfer window of the Premier League Era, Where are they now?
That is actually a good idea 👍 would like to see it.
Great video. Clear nepotism, unsurprising in a highly competitive industry awash with money and power
Fantastic video Alfie! On a crazy note it would be nice to see a video on Ali Ria's fraudulent run under Graeme Sounds. A very interesting video idea
this is even happening at my local club, northampton town. sean dyche's son max was given a pro and even started league one games even though there are many more talented players than him
start a podcast, Alfie. Wouldn't mind listening to you talking about football for hours
Hey Alfie! I would love it if you could make a video about AZ Alkmaar, the club is mostly based on developing youngsters and buying players for not much and selling them with big profit. Would absolutely love it if you could do it.
I’ll keep commenting this until you will notice my comment🥲
Nepotism is always going to exist. I think it's particularly bad in bigger teams. Look at how many players teams in the big 6 have. It's so convoluted you can easily slip your son, nephew and his best friend into the academy on a grand a week.
Because we love our family
@@captainyank138 Thats a weak reasoning although understandable 🤦🏽
It will always exsist but it can be lessened and it can be challenged which needs to happen personally and by those working with those doing it
@@jayanthony2414 nah
Fantastic insight.
Great video
This is a pretty comprehensive analysis as long as i can see, mostly on the parameters that nepotism it's not an exclusive ailment to the sport (Like saying "there's nepotism in showbusiness", "there's nepotism in motorsport", "there's nepotism in business", etc, etc), neither it's an encapsulated problem to solve (There's nepotism in football, yes, like there's racism in football, there's corruption in football, there's political influence in football, because football is not a bubble in society and has a relation with these issues). This is not a justification, but rather a way to look at these problems if, as a whole, the football world want to solve it.
A particular edge that influences football, and would be interesting to see, is the amount of power agents have acquired on transfers, team building, and even club management.
its part of life. my friends lil brother wants to become a coach and got his badges/certificates but just couldnt get a real chance so was just coaching lil kids.
so my friend asked a mutual friend if he has contacts back home and he said he actually knows one of the more well known players from that country or some high ranking official from their FA and said that he will see if he can do anything to help out.
but then covid happened so nothing came of it (at least for now). not gon lie, if its sth like this then i got no problems with it cuz in the end, most ppl just want a chance and as long as thats about the extent of things, then i feel like its reasonable, like as long as someone clearly better isnt shoved out of the way in order for that to happen
This is topic i start at bar last night. Spot on
It might be a molding of Davide akin to the Emery family of goalkeepers where Antonio was a goalkeeper, his son Juan was a goalkeeper, and Juan's son Unai became you guessed it, a goalkeeper. Only Juan and Unai would have been notably known for play at 1st or 2nd division type teams.
Nice presentation!
Just wondering, if you've ever done any modelling, and more importantly, have you ever thought about or currently appear on a podcast, thanks - AB
Always the same, always the managers sons getting picked first or as captains, always the first ones to get scouts looked at them or be the first to be put forward to academy’s !
Very interesting video. I always assumed that nepotism wouldn't greatly benefit a player as they would eventually get found out when they actually play and their true ability is gauged. It seems though that managers have been able to sign their sons to clubs just to make up the numbers without attracting too much negative attention.
Cruyft played his son Jordi and his son-in-law Angoy who end up being third goalkeeper and droping football for american football
A wierd low level one at my club is that Ethan Wassall, son of our Under 23 manager, has been contracted to Derby County since he was a kid, has never made an appearance, and is now 23 with absolutely no chance of ever playing for the first team
Yeah it does I’ve played a good level for a lot of my life in five different countries, football is no different unfortunately to other workplaces at times. I have a few stories...., just people who have all the right friends in all the right places....
When I saw the title I thought: “yeah, but probably not as bad as I think it is”
Turns out it is much worse than I thought
I think Ancelloti hiring his son as an Assistant Manager isn't a big deal. Ancelloti has been successful with his son so maybe his son has really helped him a lot throughout his career.
That Sherwood comment was coldblodded... And true
i'm glad this got mentioned, i saw a clip of him and couldn't believe he passed a screen test!
But what's the story behind his role?