Thanks for your review. I own a 2008 and it is my favorite bike besides my zzr 1200 that got totaled. With our without load it sails down the road and is very stable. One thing I learned about the floating rotors is that you may notice some wobble when applying the front breaks. All you have to do is spray the rings that hold up the rotará with penetrating oil and move them back and forth with a large screw driver. I thought at first I needed new rotors but this fixed my issue.
I had a 2008 C14, was the 1st, 2008 bike Brennys in Bettendorf,Iowa sold, i now have a new left over 2018 Connie 14 w zero miles on it, i put 70,000 miles on my 2008, took it in at 32,000 miles for a valve adjustment, mechanic said never needed it, took it in again at 52,000 miles, mechanic threw a set of new sparkplugs in & checked the valves & said it still never needed a valve adjustment, also changed the valve cover gasket , said it had a very slight leak, the leak was so slight i had no idea it was even leaking, i had a 2 brothers muffler, Power commander, stock air box with K&N air filter, i also removed the secondary butterflies, riding long distance trips i was getting up to 50 mpg ofcourse depending on how you ride, the mechanic told me to keep using whatever oil i have been using, is what i used was 10w40 Mobil1 Synthetic Motorcycle Oil, with a couple ozs. of Lucas Heavy Duty Motor Oil Stabilizer, never had any problems or issues with my clutch slipping, i just figured i would let you know my experience w my 2008 C14, these bikes are excellent durable bikes, my 2018 is completely stock , i will probably just leave this one stock 👍
Jacob, great to hear about your fine ride. I agree the C-14s are a rock-solid bike. I came close to updating my 08 to a newer version. Just never felt the need with the way my 08 rode. Eric
I have a 2011 GTR1400, I would have to agree with you on the points you raised. Just so everyone who owns these bikes, when you go to do the wheel bearings make sure you use either genuine bearings or 'all balls' race bearings. I bought my bike with 35k on the clock and just did my bearings, the previous owner said he replaced the bearings and he did but he got a cheap bearing from a bearing supplier. they don't have the ridge for the dolly to rest on so you can knock them out and nowhere for the bearing puller to grip onto the bearing. I had to cut them out, so to save those people the heartache when you go to do your bearings and you find cheap aftermarket bearings in there be prepared for a long day. Use only genuine or All Balls bearings as I have done the research already. Good vid, happy riding!
I have an 09, had it for 5 years and I really love that bike. No problems other than a slight oil leak, not looking forward to replacing the valve cover gasket. Other than that It's an awesome bike!
I got a 2015 used at the end of 2018. Amazing bike. Put about 12000 on it last year. It’s my chase the horizon bike. I’ve changed the seat, windshield and had the ECU reflashed to fix the abrupt throttle off idle. Nothin like a Fat Ninja to take you somewhere 😎
I bought a 2019 new, and it’s been an outstanding bike. I got the Kawi comfort seat, the risers, windshield extension, and of course an ecu flash for the terrible no low end power problem.... and the bike is almost perfect now.
I bought a Zx12r back in 2001 and have always considered it the best Sportbike ever built. That bike was sold (reluctantly) so here in 2024 I found a 2010 zx14 concourse with 74,000 miles on it. I went to look at it & not knowing what to expect, this bike LITERALLY looked brand new..how it was kept so clean,no fade whatsoever,everything looks showroom..it is 10 degrees here in Boston,so I cannot take an extended ride. I did take for test ride & it is tight. I have high hopes for this big burner. I would love to get another 30,000 out of her.
Ive had an 08 for 2 and a half years. Ive put 40 thousand miles on it and love it more now than the day i bought it. Have taught myself to do all maintenance on it because i got tire of the stealership raping me.
I feel your pain with dealerships. I too do most of my maintenance. Every other season I will have a pro mechanic look it over just to confirm I'm not missing anything. Eric
Good review.....When you stated you had Nels do a tune on your bike I smiled. Nels did a reflash on my ECU for my 2010 model. Love my bike. I performed a dual Yoshimura exhaust conversion, and a K/N air filter. Here in Albuquerque NM, altitude is 5,200 ft above sea level. Mods were very helpful in getting the most out of the bike. My bike has not had any concerning issues. In 2010 Kawasaki, redesigned the side fairings to dissipate heat better and help the rider. Good bike...highly recommend to folks wanting to tour and want performance too.
have a 2009...your review covers it...small oil leak I'm ignoring...is a beast of a bike for long tours....I actually have a rack on the back so I can carry a bicycle (light one)....gets a lot of second looks but other than lighting the front end a bit is a great way to get to a cycle ride
hello sawn. The oil smell is caused by the oil canister that comes from the crankshaft sensor that is up behind the radiator. change the oring and that's it. Greetings Lucas
It's the camshaft position sensor o-ring contributing to the leak. It's advised to change it for a slightly larger thicker one in the COG Forums. I too have one bought used, but I thoroughly enjoy the bike, and am having a blast with mine. Thumbs up on the video, Ride Safe......
Camshaft position sensor o-ring- not that I could tell. I may be wrong but it seems to be on the top end leaking right over the exhaust manifold, a few drops. This is so minor that for time being I lived with it.
@@blackswanodysseys That where it is, and it drips onto the exhaust pipe. The bolt is on the right side of the bike. If you take the right side middle fairings off, you can see where it accumulated on the pipe. And if you run the bike, you can see where its burning, I just looked at mine again today. It's been either too hot or rainy here, and I haven't felt like going out to change it.
@@blackswanodysseys NC, That info is from the COG. forum.cog-online.org/concours-14-zg1400-general-chat-and-tech/08-oil-leak/ forum.cog-online.org/concours-14-zg1400-general-chat-and-tech/smoke-on-startup-stops-after-a-min-or-two/
Thanks for your time with the review. I have a GTR1400 & bought it to tour with my wife on, the reason I chose this motorbike over any other is the reliability these motorbikes have bullet proof engines. Ride safe
I got an 09, absolutely love it, and you can ride it like a sport bike, but it is heavy. My shop said 600 to rip it down do the valve cover gasket, and check valves, and change air cleaner, I bought all the parts but wisely chose against taking all the plastic apart
Remove your own plastic ! Zip lock bag the attachment screws and duct tape them to each piece you remove.Throwing them all in one container can be confusing when you reinstall all the plastic.No way would I trust a repair shop with plastic removal and replacement.
I’ve just gone Dark side on mine! If your doing high mileage it might be worth considering I know it’s not for everyone but I like it. 205/45R17 35-38 psi works best for me. Ride safe
I see you're local. I recognize all those roads 😊. Been considering a Concours 14 for awhile. Prefer the looks of the 09 models, but like everyone else was concerned about the heat these years are known for putting out.
Local yes, as in Clark County. Heat- I found this a very subjective matter. I too heard about the C14 putting out a lot of heat. I've owned and ridden many bikes. I found the Connie was no worse than other big-engine bikes. I rode my Connie in 100-plus heat. Never felt it was unbearable.
I'm in the midst of purchasing a 2011 it's too bad that emission controls standards in Europe are killing off the bike Kawasaki doesn't seem to want to update the bike and now it's not even sold in Europe I read that the sales are down quite the writing's on the wall unfortunately seems the most bikes I like you want to invest in ends up being either discontinued or hard to find parts for can't wait to ride my new for me bike. Your video was very good lot of good points the valve service is something I'll have to look into I've been reading a lot about it and it's definitely something to do.
"Killing off the bike" JP, yes that it sad. I have heard that Euro emission standards are becoming more strict each year. I know that many manufactures are blocking access to the FI computer by not releasing the passcode for the FI computer access. KTM for instance will not release the password effectively blocking access to the FI. My 2008 Concours, I was able to get the code and dyno tune my FI. Still all the Connies (various years) are excellent bikes and are extensively used as a police traffic bike. That speaks volumes. share here about you purchase. I'd like to hear more. Eric
@@blackswanodysseys I traded in a 2018 Moto Guzzi v7iii for the 2011 Connie I just needed more space I want to travel more on the bike I'm just waiting for parts from the dealership to safety it waiting 2 weeks now it sounds like an awesome bike I can't wait to travel with it
Congrats on your bike, I’m very glad it’s yours and not mine. I did look into the concours and also FJR. I own a bmw 1200rt, 2005. Abs included, electronic cruise control, electric windscreen, heated grips and seats standard. Service is easy and I do my own including valve adjustments.oil change is as easy as a car, screw on filter. I got mine with 55k miles and 3 years later with 90k miles, you have to kill me to give it up. I’m expecting to run this bike up to 200k miles without a major failure, boxer engines rule.
@@blackswanodysseys dry clutch, so separated oil for transmission and engine. Also your gas mileage seems low, mine does between 52 and 54. Fuel stops with my 7 gallon tank are consistently at 300+ miles.
I just bough an '08. I've put less than 100 miles on it. I appreciate the review. It's a different bike than I'm used to (2006 R1), but I am impressed and I'm loving the ride.
This video was incredibly helpful. My girlfriend and I are considering getting this bike, both for me as a daily commuter and for riding 2-up on the weekends to the coasts. I'm between this and a meatier cruiser. Coming from sport and naked bikes, I'm really torn.
That's interesting because I went that route. Had and FZ1, and got a long term knee injury. Didn't think I'd be able to ride in a tucked position anymore. So I bought a cruiser, M 109. It was fast and handled well but little lean angle. Then my knee slowly healed and the Connie came on the scene. Perfect blend of sporty riding, long term travel, and not so extreme tucked riding position.
@@blackswanodysseys I made an appointment with the dealership to go check one out this coming weekend. I'll let you know if I walk out with a new toy. XD
These motorcycles brilliant & the engines are bullet proof. Although some maintenance tasks are ...let’s say awkward (spark plug change) well within a DIYers ability’s if using a service manual & common sense. Thanks for the review
I somewhat impulsively bought an FJR, and now I can’t stop wondering about the concours. The looks of this bike are way cooler to me than the FJR. I’m seriously considering switching at some point in the next year or so
Good to see a video like this, so many years later. It really says something about the bike. Coming from ninjas, this bike has always been in the back of my mind. Being a bit older now, and not wanting to give up the sport bike side of me, I've just picked up an 08, and am loving it. Not too many changes on the horizon, from stock. Being 6'1, The stock windshield is crap. Hoping I can get by without the risers because I'm already more upright than the bikes I'm used to. I used to look down on bags, but am now giddy about the storage even though it adds weight, to the already hefty bike. But with that motor, geez, no problem with passing! I hope to get better at low speed maneuvering, but feel that might be a while. Ride safe, everyone. ✌️
I was in the same boat as you. Enjoyed the sport bike ride but my body was done with a deep tuck ride. Ya the stock windshield isn’t much, especially in cold weather. Kawasaki use to sell an upgrade windshield for the 08 but discontinued it. Too bad, its a great fit and provides that added wind coverage the stock one doesn’t. Riser- I found they really helped the low speed handling and comfort for long rides.
still have it. love it. theres quite a few screens for it. some Ive seen dont have the vent, and some are really high, and swept back. Ive gone back to the stock, it really does a great job front, just not so much on the side, but then I dont want a full dresser type wind screen. practice with it, drag the rear brake, u probably already know that one. I always look for several spots in a row open an u turn in facing out. not fun backing this bike up. Ive put all the stuff from SB's into a nelson-riggs bag on back seat. so theyre open for helmets/whatever. theyre not heavy, just remember to clear them when squeezing thru tight spaces. that, and learn to stop kicking them every time u get on/off. lol. ride on Connie bruther- Enjoy!.
Just a slip on muffler and an ECU Flash with Mad Scientist Don Guhl that fixed everything, Removed all of the epa restrictions. Smooth acceleration no more jerky throttle and better gas mileage also better low end power.
Great video, I didn't know about the 40K compression check. I checked and adjusted my valves at 21K and loosened up some of the questionable ones, but that was a long time ago. Approaching 50K miles now, I may check the compression when I change the plugs for the first time in August. Are you still happy with the 2wheeldyno companies tune? I'm just a bit north of you near Tacoma, so if you see another 2008 doppelgänger of your bike, wave, it may be me! (Atomic Silver, Laam Seat and a Delkevic Slipon, no ABS)
Unfortunately I sold mine. Wife only lets me have one bike at a time. My back yard is a national forest. Wanted an AVD bike to ride the logging roads. Have a KTM1290 Super Adventure now. Really miss my Connie though. Plug change is a great time to check valve clearance since all the fairing pieces have to come off. Do your air filter too. I cheated, had a MC shop check them. Has your valve covers leaked? That was the only reoccurring issue. Loved that bike. You take care of it and it’ll take care of you. Eric
@@blackswanodysseys Gotcha, I had a KLR650 that I loved riding up in the Gifford Pinchot, but stupidly sold it. I'm not sure if I want to pull the valve cover off again, I pulled the cams and adjusted the shims last time I was in there, and from what I've read, after the initial tightening up, they stay put, but I'll take a look at the compression and go from there. (Yes, I'm being lazy). The 1290's are rockets! Enjoy!
Hello Nicholas, Glad you liked the video. I thought I mentioned engine heat, but maybe it's in another video. My experience with the Concours 14 is the heat issue is blown out of proportion. Kawasaki got a bad wrap. Does the C-14 put out heat? - ya it does. But no more than other big horsepower bikes. Even in high temp climates I never found the C-14 engine heat unbearable. Really the only time the engine heat surfaced was stop and go heavy traffic during summer temps.
Interesting idea. I wouldn’t for my road choices in that most of my riding are side roads/back roads with many curves. Post back how the car tire perform for you. I’ll be curious Eric
I have a 2017 Concours bought it brand new ran well for the first 2 summer but this years i have a high temperature issue with the bike so its been 3 weeks in the shop now hoping that they find what going up with that issue they never seen that problem with a Concours before,but i love my bike fast ive put some raiser on it change the seat tailor made for me in a specialise shop. next step is a ECU flash and a slip on.
Living up North I see why you didn't mention the heat from the engine. LOL. I have a 09 and living in Phoenix, AZ I don't even think about taking the cover off of mine and taking it out for a spin from June - September. From October - May, Love it!
@@blackswanodysseys Yeah, seems like the older I get the less I ride. LOL What I need to do is take it up North to my older brother's in Prescott for the summer months. Then I can ride year round. Sedona and the Grand Canyon are great in the summer up there!
@@blackswanodysseys When you get time check out my Ride I did last week to Canyon Lake. I did still photography for 25 yrs. and just got this GoPro 10 three weeks ago and boy what a learning curve. But it's fun except for the hours spent on the backend. LOL. th-cam.com/video/LX7uO8pFJ9g/w-d-xo.html
Basically same motor with torque level set at lower RPM. Ride position is more relaxed and more upright, not sit-up and beg though. I think the Connie handles better at low speed from it more up riding position.
Thanks for the great review. I also have a 2008 purchased in 2010. I do a fair amount of cone riding, and that jerky throttle is NFG. I put a Throttle Tamer on, it changes the cam profile of the throttle so you get less throttle at the throttle body with a small twist of the wrist, but still get 100% when you crank it up (hang on tight!!!!). It has really smoothed things out. I have the same oil leak, ignoring it too, I'll fix it on the valve adjustment. I have the stock exhaust, thinking of changing, but I don't want an obnoxious monster that will piss off my neighbors. How did you modify yours & what effect did it have?
Hi Mike , I found having a dyno tue really smoothed out the throttle response. Also try just drilling out each baffle. But you will definitely need a dyno tune with that Message me if you want more info Eric
Surprised by my 2014 purchased new it didn't make it into police service. Its been flashed with two brothers slip on. Tires are pilot 5's 200/55-17 immediate difference in handling. Without the bags and stock potato cannon muffler I keep my SS 1000cc friends honest without unfolding myself to dismount. Ready to ride another 100 miles they are done.....
The oil smell is caused by the oil canister that comes from the crankshaft sensor that is up behind the radiator. change the oring and that's it. Greetings Lucas
Thanks for a really interesting review, I live in England and currently looking to buy one of these after riding 3 BMW GS over the last ten years. I think the reliability of these bikes is a big factor for any motorcyclist planning on doing long distance trips.....thanks again... Grant
Grant Ridout 2012 owner here, do it, you won’t regret it. Fat Ninja ownership is a blast, but respect the weight when paddling it about, otherwise you’ll end up with broken plastic👍
@@blackswanodysseys Eric I live in the midlands between Birmingham and Wolverhampton in a town called Stourbridge (The Black Country (Google it)). From Stourbridge its about an hour or so to the Snowdonia national park in Wales. Four hours south to the channel tunnel gets you to France and Europe. From the videos I watch on TH-cam The diversity of the terrain in America looks breathtaking and im always envious of what I see! Then again Norway and Scotland are pretty stunning. Ride safe friend.
Should be a recall for the rear brake lever. The story I got was that it was possible for a small rock to wedge in the linkage and keep the brake on. If you are not the original owner then this recall may have been done by the previous owner..
Thanks! Excellent review. Purchased new a 2012 Connie and haven't looked at another bike since. She currently has 43k and last week had the forks seals replaced. I always wondered about Corbin seats because I have a Russell Day-Long seat. Might look into the Corbin with softer foam? Ride safe.
I can strongly recommend the sargent replacement for this bike. its foam, and great, the seat it should have had. stay away from gel seats, they heat up in sun, and hold it., take hours to cool off.
I have a 2008, bought it last year with 98K km on it. The previous owner passed away so I don't know much of the history. I'm just getting into changing and servicing the brakes, new tires and an ecu flash. I want to check he valves but that's going to be a big tear down. You mentioned using a compression test to check valve clearances. Given that you measure the gap to check the valves, how would pressure testing be an option?
I'm not super mechanically up on this. However my local bike shop mechanic suggested this. He apparently did research on it stating it would reveal if the valves were opening and closing properly. i took his word. He has been a very detailed bike mechanic. But I should do my own research. Let me know if you learn if this pressure measurement is a fallacy
I think that the compression check would tell you if you had a tight valve and it wasn’t closing properly, but it can’t tell you about correct adjustment.
Thanks for the honest review. Is I 690 lb dry? Did you find heat an issue? I had a 2005 ST1300 That was an awesome bike, but destroyed front tires on account of being heavy and my heavy wrist.
Hello, The C-14 is 615 lbs dry. By the time you fuel, lube, and load it probably pushing upwards of 690 lbs. Excessive heat- not really. Sure there's engine heat but I don't find it any more than other big bore bikes. Certainly within my comfort, even on hot summer days. Never had issues with front time wear. I routinely went through two rears for every one front tire replacement. The ST1300 is a great bike, but a way different ride. My friend owns one and we switched for rides. I'd say the ST1300 is more compliant. The C-14 rides more aggressively. If you buy a C-14 I highly recommend one with ABS brakes. On a heavy aggressive bike, it's a lifesaver. Eric
@@blackswanodysseys thanks for that. Yeah.. I have ABS on all my bikes. No brianer. Good to hear about heat. My 1090 is said to be hot but its not a big deal. I could def. See the 1300 being soft, and slightly old school. Greg
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I about to buy one, same year, 20k miles, but there is a big but, how obout the HEAT, I rido on Temps between 55-90° and almost everything sais the buje is almost unrideable at more Tha 85° Is that true, honest opinion.
Its not a hot bike, heat wise. I road my Connie through 100 f. desert with no concern. Gotta say stop and go traffic on a freeway is not fun. But bearable. Finding a 2008 with only 20k miles is rear. At 20k you haven’t even approached the valve clearance check. To compare though, what kind of bike have you ridden?
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@@blackswanodysseys 03 cbr 1100xx then looking for something more confortable but equally smooth (all what they say obout the venerable XX is true, may be the best inline 4 ever built) a 09 fjr 1300, then I missed so much the XX I found the brutal unrestricted zx12r, love the bike, now I have both, but I have to sell one. A 08 mint Concours appeared (very rare in my country, Argentina) so thinking on selling both to have the power of the12r engine ( raw 178hp) and the ergos of the fjr.. I been reading a lot, a very reliable bike like the fjr but being. 08 I read on all forums that the heat management is a real problem.
@ I’ve ridden Harleys KTM 1290s both put out substantial engine heat. Those compared to the Concours 14 are quite similar. I suppose if a person rode in shorts and sneakers it would be real hot but with regular riding gear I found the engine fine.
I have a 2008 with ABS on it and it has around 14500 miles and after about 500 to 600 miles. It will start. Running rough At idol and I have to change the plugs they do not look bad but it solves the problem any ideas.
thanks for the review, picking up 2008 with 21,000 miles this weekend. I've had an FJR 1300 in the past but the heat in traffic was unbearable. How's the heat with the C14? Is the oil leak visible planning to pick one up this weekend.
Riding any motorcycle in stop and go traffic, minus an EV, generates uncomfortable heat. I found the Concours isn't any worse. Prior to my Concours purchase, I too read about the supposed heat issue. I planned on purchasing one of the many aftermarket heats shields. But I never did because it turned out the heat not at all as bad as reported. Let me know how the 2008 Concours is. I miss mine terribly.
@@whenim6462 Yes I love the Concours and really love the power, sometimes too much. It will definitely get me in trouble this summer :)I do find I am more tired on long rides driving the Concours over my Versys 650. I will be adding bar risers and see if that helps, and my back as I stand 6'1 and find I'm more hunched over. I can say the engine heat does not compare to the Gen 1& 2 FJR, stuck in traffic on those summer days. Thanks for checking up.
@@MTL_Rider Thank you sir for honest opinion. I’m still in the thinking about it on a sport touring bike. I’ve got two Harley’s right now. I’m going to sell my 94 Heritage softail that has Ben in my collection and isn’t a rider as it’s only got 674 miles on it. I’m 65 and just don’t know if I’d kill myself on such a monster. I road a FZR 1000 for years but was quite a bit younger. Be safe.
@@Team-fabulous Ya no fun. This is one of the only down points with the Connie. But I think all sport and tour bike with fairings are saddled with the same issue. Good luck and let me know how it goes. Eric
John, That depends on your riding history and what you’re used to. If you are comfortable riding tall suspension dirt bikes you’ll be totally at ease. Basically at stops step off to one side. Drape a leg resting your thigh on the seat. This allows you to stand flat one foot. I’ll make a video displaying this stop stance. Its a common remedy for short riders and/or tall bikes. Let know if this makes sense. Eric
5'5~~170lb. 57 yrs old, been riding since 16yrs old. Had FJR FOR 10yrs went to Connie and love it. Weight melts w/motionimbsure the suspension has dropped but I can flat-foot in work boots w/Corbin seat and almost flat foot in Sidi boots. FJR more technical in turns but Connie's engine is a beast! In my opinion.
Compression check and valve clearances are totally different and do not relate to another. There is no way around doing the valve clearance inspection. You can have perfect compression check and out of spec valve clearances and vice/versa.
Wrong, they're totally related. They're checking for valves that are getting pulled into the head too far due to wear,thus, letting them hang open a small amount. When that happens compression is lost. This engine has a bucket over shim design-not rocker arms. They don't ever get loose (unless your cam lobe wears away) they only get too tight
@@aaronanhalt5088Looks like I have to elaborate more. You can have a broken ring or a hole in the piston and have perfect valve clearances and a compression test will be bad. You can have a flat cam lobe or worn bucket with a loose valve lash and have a good compression test. You can have valve recession and a out of spec (too tight) valve clearance and have a good compression test. A compression test is not a substitute for checking the valve clearances. You must check the valves. Kawasaki has this check every 16k miles and the last time I had it done the dealer dinged me $1200. I did it at 25k miles and I noticed the engine ran a little quieter. Checking the valves on the Connie 14 is a major PIA. I bought my Connie new in 2008 and I still have it so it must be worth it. Maybe the next time I'll do it myself. Before doing a compression check you need to check the valve clearances and make sure the throttles are open before doing the test. If you have CV carbs, you have to remove the carbs before doing the test.
Agree, never skip valve adjustments. Shops hate doing them since it eats into their gravy jobs and are a bit more time consuming and requires more technical expertise. Any shop that says a compression test is fine cuts corners. I would stay far away from them, what else do they cut corners on?
try a ivan's ecu reflash. i picked up a 08 connie a couple of months ago. it really makes a difference. read all of ivans' page. your throttle jerkiness will be gone. www.ivansperformanceproducts.com/ZG1400.htm
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I have an 08 now with 105,000 miles. I bought it new. Love it!
105k wow. had any major repairs?
@@blackswanodysseys no. No oil leaks either. Just routine maintenance.
Thanks for your review. I own a 2008 and it is my favorite bike besides my zzr 1200 that got totaled. With our without load it sails down the road and is very stable. One thing I learned about the floating rotors is that you may notice some wobble when applying the front breaks. All you have to do is spray the rings that hold up the rotará with penetrating oil and move them back and forth with a large screw driver. I thought at first I needed new rotors but this fixed my issue.
Have not noticed that. But I agree with maintenance averts the issue. Thx
Very nice and informative review. I just bought a 2009 with 39K miles last week and looking forward to many adventures ahead. Safe travels!
Thank you. Let us know what modifications are on the bike and what you may add
I had a 2008 C14, was the 1st, 2008 bike Brennys in Bettendorf,Iowa sold, i now have a new left over 2018 Connie 14 w zero miles on it, i put 70,000 miles on my 2008, took it in at 32,000 miles for a valve adjustment, mechanic said never needed it, took it in again at 52,000 miles, mechanic threw a set of new sparkplugs in & checked the valves & said it still never needed a valve adjustment, also changed the valve cover gasket , said it had a very slight leak, the leak was so slight i had no idea it was even leaking, i had a 2 brothers muffler, Power commander, stock air box with K&N air filter, i also removed the secondary butterflies, riding long distance trips i was getting up to 50 mpg ofcourse depending on how you ride, the mechanic told me to keep using whatever oil i have been using, is what i used was 10w40 Mobil1 Synthetic Motorcycle Oil, with a couple ozs. of Lucas Heavy Duty Motor Oil Stabilizer, never had any problems or issues with my clutch slipping, i just figured i would let you know my experience w my 2008 C14, these bikes are excellent durable bikes, my 2018 is completely stock , i will probably just leave this one stock 👍
Jacob, great to hear about your fine ride. I agree the C-14s are a rock-solid bike. I came close to updating my 08 to a newer version. Just never felt the need with the way my 08 rode.
Eric
@@schobesfamilyvideos4672 yes, they are a very dependable bike & fun to ride 👍
Did the 08 model have traction control and does this make much difference to the average rider?
How is it for someone who is only 5'7"
I have a 2011 GTR1400, I would have to agree with you on the points you raised. Just so everyone who owns these bikes, when you go to do the wheel bearings make sure you use either genuine bearings or 'all balls' race bearings. I bought my bike with 35k on the clock and just did my bearings, the previous owner said he replaced the bearings and he did but he got a cheap bearing from a bearing supplier. they don't have the ridge for the dolly to rest on so you can knock them out and nowhere for the bearing puller to grip onto the bearing. I had to cut them out, so to save those people the heartache when you go to do your bearings and you find cheap aftermarket bearings in there be prepared for a long day. Use only genuine or All Balls bearings as I have done the research already. Good vid, happy riding!
I have an 09, had it for 5 years and I really love that bike. No problems other than a slight oil leak, not looking forward to replacing the valve cover gasket. Other than that It's an awesome bike!
I got a 2015 used at the end of 2018. Amazing bike. Put about 12000 on it last year. It’s my chase the horizon bike. I’ve changed the seat, windshield and had the ECU reflashed to fix the abrupt throttle off idle. Nothin like a Fat Ninja to take you somewhere 😎
Jim sounds like we made similar mods. “Chase the horizon “ yep
Did you know that it’s not a Ninja? You get a Kawasaki, and it’s not a Ninja. Someone pointed that out to me the other day.
I bought a 2019 new, and it’s been an outstanding bike. I got the Kawi comfort seat, the risers, windshield extension, and of course an ecu flash for the terrible no low end power problem.... and the bike is almost perfect now.
You did all the great mods!
They should rename them Road burner
I bought a Zx12r back in 2001 and have always considered it the best Sportbike ever built. That bike was sold (reluctantly) so here in 2024 I found a 2010 zx14 concourse with 74,000 miles on it. I went to look at it & not knowing what to expect, this bike LITERALLY looked brand new..how it was kept so clean,no fade whatsoever,everything looks showroom..it is 10 degrees here in Boston,so I cannot take an extended ride. I did take for test ride & it is tight. I have high hopes for this big burner. I would love to get another 30,000 out of her.
You will enjoy the C14. Different seat position but all power. Its a great platform for long rides
Ive had an 08 for 2 and a half years. Ive put 40 thousand miles on it and love it more now than the day i bought it. Have taught myself to do all maintenance on it because i got tire of the stealership raping me.
I feel your pain with dealerships. I too do most of my maintenance. Every other season I will have a pro mechanic look it over just to confirm I'm not missing anything.
Eric
Good review.....When you stated you had Nels do a tune on your bike I smiled. Nels did a reflash on my ECU for my 2010 model. Love my bike. I performed a dual Yoshimura exhaust conversion, and a K/N air filter. Here in Albuquerque NM, altitude is 5,200 ft above sea level. Mods were very helpful in getting the most out of the bike. My bike has not had any concerning issues. In 2010 Kawasaki, redesigned the side fairings to dissipate heat better and help the rider. Good bike...highly recommend to folks wanting to tour and want performance too.
Bought a 2008 in the fall ,can wait to get it out on the road.
What tires are you running?
have a 2009...your review covers it...small oil leak I'm ignoring...is a beast of a bike for long tours....I actually have a rack on the back so I can carry a bicycle (light one)....gets a lot of second looks but other than lighting the front end a bit is a great way to get to a cycle ride
The bike rack would be interesting to see
I have the same bike. All stock. I have over 55,000 on mine.. Love it! Good review.
That is awesome!
That is a fine Sports Tourer. The Grey colour looks good on it.
Bought a wrecked one a 08 model . I used zx14 cowling and plastic . 4000 miles driven so far and have my fingers crossed. Be safe out there!
Did you also use the zx14 manifold making your bike a dual exhaust minus the cars?
@@blackswanodysseys no but I am thinking about it . Bet it will make a big difference also.
hello sawn. The oil smell is caused by the oil canister that comes from the crankshaft sensor that is up behind the radiator. change the oring and that's it. Greetings Lucas
Actually it turned out to be be the valve cover gasket. Thanks though
It's the camshaft position sensor o-ring contributing to the leak. It's advised to change it for a slightly larger thicker one in the COG Forums. I too have one bought used, but I thoroughly enjoy the bike, and am having a blast with mine. Thumbs up on the video, Ride Safe......
Camshaft position sensor o-ring- not that I could tell. I may be wrong but it seems to be on the top end leaking right over the exhaust manifold, a few drops. This is so minor that for time being I lived with it.
@@blackswanodysseys That where it is, and it drips onto the exhaust pipe. The bolt is on the right side of the bike. If you take the right side middle fairings off, you can see where it accumulated on the pipe. And if you run the bike, you can see where its burning, I just looked at mine again today. It's been either too hot or rainy here, and I haven't felt like going out to change it.
@@pete1121b
Copy. Where are you located?
Eric
@@blackswanodysseys NC, That info is from the COG.
forum.cog-online.org/concours-14-zg1400-general-chat-and-tech/08-oil-leak/
forum.cog-online.org/concours-14-zg1400-general-chat-and-tech/smoke-on-startup-stops-after-a-min-or-two/
Yes that's what I figure too
Thanks for your time with the review. I have a GTR1400 & bought it to tour with my wife on, the reason I chose this motorbike over any other is the reliability these motorbikes have bullet proof engines. Ride safe
I got an 09, absolutely love it, and you can ride it like a sport bike, but it is heavy. My shop said 600 to rip it down do the valve cover gasket, and check valves, and change air cleaner, I bought all the parts but wisely chose against taking all the plastic apart
Ya the small breakable plastic parts are definitely a design downfall.
Eric
Remove your own plastic ! Zip lock bag the attachment screws and duct tape them to each piece you remove.Throwing them all in one container can be confusing when you reinstall all the plastic.No way would I trust a repair shop with plastic removal and replacement.
I’ve just gone Dark side on mine! If your doing high mileage it might be worth considering I know it’s not for everyone but I like it. 205/45R17 35-38 psi works best for me. Ride safe
Yes I had a zx14 and I ran a 290/50/ 17
@@lindarichardson6957 wow that’s a wide tyre! Did you like it?
I see you're local. I recognize all those roads 😊. Been considering a Concours 14 for awhile. Prefer the looks of the 09 models, but like everyone else was concerned about the heat these years are known for putting out.
Local yes, as in Clark County. Heat- I found this a very subjective matter. I too heard about the C14 putting out a lot of heat. I've owned and ridden many bikes. I found the Connie was no worse than other big-engine bikes. I rode my Connie in 100-plus heat. Never felt it was unbearable.
I'm in the midst of purchasing a 2011 it's too bad that emission controls standards in Europe are killing off the bike Kawasaki doesn't seem to want to update the bike and now it's not even sold in Europe I read that the sales are down quite the writing's on the wall unfortunately seems the most bikes I like you want to invest in ends up being either discontinued or hard to find parts for can't wait to ride my new for me bike. Your video was very good lot of good points the valve service is something I'll have to look into I've been reading a lot about it and it's definitely something to do.
"Killing off the bike"
JP, yes that it sad. I have heard that Euro emission standards are becoming more strict each year. I know that many manufactures are blocking access to the FI computer by not releasing the passcode for the FI computer access. KTM for instance will not release the password effectively blocking access to the FI. My 2008 Concours, I was able to get the code and dyno tune my FI. Still all the Connies (various years) are excellent bikes and are extensively used as a police traffic bike. That speaks volumes.
share here about you purchase. I'd like to hear more.
Eric
@@blackswanodysseys
I traded in a 2018 Moto Guzzi v7iii for the 2011 Connie I just needed more space I want to travel more on the bike I'm just waiting for parts from the dealership to safety it waiting 2 weeks now it sounds like an awesome bike I can't wait to travel with it
Congrats on your bike, I’m very glad it’s yours and not mine. I did look into the concours and also FJR. I own a bmw 1200rt, 2005. Abs included, electronic cruise control, electric windscreen, heated grips and seats standard. Service is easy and I do my own including valve adjustments.oil change is as easy as a car, screw on filter. I got mine with 55k miles and 3 years later with 90k miles, you have to kill me to give it up. I’m expecting to run this bike up to 200k miles without a major failure, boxer engines rule.
Deitrich,
That is a very nice. I can’t remember, does it have a wet or dry clutch?
@@blackswanodysseys dry clutch, so separated oil for transmission and engine. Also your gas mileage seems low, mine does between 52 and 54. Fuel stops with my 7 gallon tank are consistently at 300+ miles.
@@GotToThink4yourself if i baby the throttle and keep my speeds low I can see 50 mpg.
I just bough an '08. I've put less than 100 miles on it. I appreciate the review. It's a different bike than I'm used to (2006 R1), but I am impressed and I'm loving the ride.
the R1 is a nice bike too, just not set up for long distant touring.
get the Ivan flash and you wont miss the R1 a bit......AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This video was incredibly helpful. My girlfriend and I are considering getting this bike, both for me as a daily commuter and for riding 2-up on the weekends to the coasts. I'm between this and a meatier cruiser. Coming from sport and naked bikes, I'm really torn.
That's interesting because I went that route. Had and FZ1, and got a long term knee injury. Didn't think I'd be able to ride in a tucked position anymore. So I bought a cruiser, M 109. It was fast and handled well but little lean angle. Then my knee slowly healed and the Connie came on the scene. Perfect blend of sporty riding, long term travel, and not so extreme tucked riding position.
@@blackswanodysseys I made an appointment with the dealership to go check one out this coming weekend. I'll let you know if I walk out with a new toy. XD
@@J.Arnold what year are you looking at? Eric
@@blackswanodysseys Currently looking at some new ones (2021) and a few deals on some 2016 and 2018 used models with decent mileage. Any suggestions?
@@J.Arnold fall/winter is a great time to get deals
These motorcycles brilliant & the engines are bullet proof. Although some maintenance tasks are ...let’s say awkward (spark plug change) well within a DIYers ability’s if using a service manual & common sense. Thanks for the review
Yes, My biggest complaint is fairing removal to get at the motor for routine maintenance. Some of the plastic connectors are brittle
Just got to be careful when pulling off the fairings, helps if it a hot/warm day as the plastic isn’t so brittle. Take care
I somewhat impulsively bought an FJR, and now I can’t stop wondering about the concours. The looks of this bike are way cooler to me than the FJR. I’m seriously considering switching at some point in the next year or so
Hi Mickey, before I bought my Concours 14 I test rode a FJR. Thought it was a nice bike.
@@blackswanodysseys I regret not trying both. Sometimes a good deal can be a bit distracting!
@@ComfyDadShoes I hear you. Been there and done too
Good to see a video like this, so many years later. It really says something about the bike. Coming from ninjas, this bike has always been in the back of my mind. Being a bit older now, and not wanting to give up the sport bike side of me, I've just picked up an 08, and am loving it. Not too many changes on the horizon, from stock. Being 6'1, The stock windshield is crap. Hoping I can get by without the risers because I'm already more upright than the bikes I'm used to. I used to look down on bags, but am now giddy about the storage even though it adds weight, to the already hefty bike. But with that motor, geez, no problem with passing! I hope to get better at low speed maneuvering, but feel that might be a while. Ride safe, everyone. ✌️
low speed maneuvering secret is drag rear brake., and slip the clutch. an stay off that front brake in low speed an turning situations!.
I was in the same boat as you. Enjoyed the sport bike ride but my body was done with a deep tuck ride. Ya the stock windshield isn’t much, especially in cold weather. Kawasaki use to sell an upgrade windshield for the 08 but discontinued it. Too bad, its a great fit and provides that added wind coverage the stock one doesn’t.
Riser- I found they really helped the low speed handling and comfort for long rides.
still have it. love it. theres quite a few screens for it. some Ive seen dont have the vent, and some are really high, and swept back. Ive gone back to the stock, it really does a great job front, just not so much on the side, but then I dont want a full dresser type wind screen.
practice with it, drag the rear brake, u probably already know that one. I always look for several spots in a row open an u turn in facing out. not fun backing this bike up.
Ive put all the stuff from SB's into a nelson-riggs bag on back seat. so theyre open for helmets/whatever. theyre not heavy, just remember to clear them when squeezing thru tight spaces. that, and learn to stop kicking them every time u get on/off. lol.
ride on Connie bruther- Enjoy!.
I too have a 2008 C14 great bike, a little warm on the right side, same oil leak too. I love it nice review THX.
Have you done any modes?
Just a slip on muffler and an ECU Flash with Mad Scientist Don Guhl that fixed everything, Removed all of the epa restrictions. Smooth acceleration no more jerky throttle and better gas mileage also better low end power.
Is the oil leak visible planning to pick one up this weekend.
@@MTL_Rider no just a little wet no drips
@@MTL_Rider No not at all
Great video, I didn't know about the 40K compression check. I checked and adjusted my valves at 21K and loosened up some of the questionable ones, but that was a long time ago. Approaching 50K miles now, I may check the compression when I change the plugs for the first time in August. Are you still happy with the 2wheeldyno companies tune? I'm just a bit north of you near Tacoma, so if you see another 2008 doppelgänger of your bike, wave, it may be me! (Atomic Silver, Laam Seat and a Delkevic Slipon, no ABS)
Unfortunately I sold mine. Wife only lets me have one bike at a time. My back yard is a national forest. Wanted an AVD bike to ride the logging roads. Have a KTM1290 Super Adventure now. Really miss my Connie though.
Plug change is a great time to check valve clearance since all the fairing pieces have to come off. Do your air filter too. I cheated, had a MC shop check them. Has your valve covers leaked? That was the only reoccurring issue. Loved that bike. You take care of it and it’ll take care of you.
Eric
@@blackswanodysseys Gotcha, I had a KLR650 that I loved riding up in the Gifford Pinchot, but stupidly sold it. I'm not sure if I want to pull the valve cover off again, I pulled the cams and adjusted the shims last time I was in there, and from what I've read, after the initial tightening up, they stay put, but I'll take a look at the compression and go from there. (Yes, I'm being lazy). The 1290's are rockets! Enjoy!
@@rrl2849 Rockets 🚀- so is your Connie
Saw the review Nov.11 2021; really enjoyed the straight forward commentary. You did not mention the excessive engine heat this model was known for?
Hello Nicholas,
Glad you liked the video. I thought I mentioned engine heat, but maybe it's in another video. My experience with the Concours 14 is the heat issue is blown out of proportion. Kawasaki got a bad wrap. Does the C-14 put out heat? - ya it does. But no more than other big horsepower bikes. Even in high temp climates I never found the C-14 engine heat unbearable. Really the only time the engine heat surfaced was stop and go heavy traffic during summer temps.
got the same bike and seat, you're right about that seat, its hard as a rock but better than stock
Interesting idea. I wouldn’t for my road choices in that most of my riding are side roads/back roads with many curves.
Post back how the car tire perform for you. I’ll be curious
Eric
I have an Air Hawk and it's awesome!
One of the better investments I’ve made. Summer is coming hope you enjoy some rides.
Eric
I have a 2017 Concours bought it brand new ran well for the first 2 summer but this years i have a high temperature issue with the bike so its been 3 weeks in the shop now hoping that they find what going up with that issue they never seen that problem with a Concours before,but i love my bike fast ive put some raiser on it change the seat tailor made for me in a specialise shop. next step is a ECU flash and a slip on.
Shadwox The risers really help. I had them too
Living up North I see why you didn't mention the heat from the engine. LOL. I have a 09 and living in Phoenix, AZ I don't even think about taking the cover off of mine and taking it out for a spin from June - September. From October - May, Love it!
Wow! thats a long time not to ride
I rode mine to El Paso during a June summer. Yes it was hot but not unbearably so. Theres other bikes that put out way more engine heat.
@@blackswanodysseys Yeah, seems like the older I get the less I ride. LOL What I need to do is take it up North to my older brother's in Prescott for the summer months. Then I can ride year round. Sedona and the Grand Canyon are great in the summer up there!
@@raylee4324 My issue is even though I'm now retired I keep taking jobs and don't have time to ride like I should be doing
@@blackswanodysseys When you get time check out my Ride I did last week to Canyon Lake. I did still photography for 25 yrs. and just got this GoPro 10 three weeks ago and boy what a learning curve. But it's fun except for the hours spent on the backend. LOL. th-cam.com/video/LX7uO8pFJ9g/w-d-xo.html
Are you talking about the ECU getting re-flashed? Not sure what you meant about dyno-tuning.
Yes
Interesting review I learned a lot, thanks! I have a 2017 ZX14R and was curious of the similarities and differences- Amy
Basically same motor with torque level set at lower RPM. Ride position is more relaxed and more upright, not sit-up and beg though. I think the Connie handles better at low speed from it more up riding position.
Thanks for the great review. I also have a 2008 purchased in 2010. I do a fair amount of cone riding, and that jerky throttle is NFG. I put a Throttle Tamer on, it changes the cam profile of the throttle so you get less throttle at the throttle body with a small twist of the wrist, but still get 100% when you crank it up (hang on tight!!!!). It has really smoothed things out. I have the same oil leak, ignoring it too, I'll fix it on the valve adjustment. I have the stock exhaust, thinking of changing, but I don't want an obnoxious monster that will piss off my neighbors. How did you modify yours & what effect did it have?
Hi Mike , I found having a dyno tue really smoothed out the throttle response. Also try just drilling out each baffle. But you will definitely need a dyno tune with that
Message me if you want more info
Eric
Will be my next bike
Can't go wrong with one. It's been a very reliable platform, with loads of power, and great handling..
There's a used 08 here in Colorado for 4k. 46k miles but I've seen many hit 100k+
Surprised by my 2014 purchased new it didn't make it into police service. Its been flashed with two brothers slip on. Tires are pilot 5's 200/55-17 immediate difference in handling. Without the bags and stock potato cannon muffler I keep my SS 1000cc friends honest without unfolding myself to dismount. Ready to ride another 100 miles they are done.....
Nice bike , i want a 2012!
Found a slight seepage up there myself. Why do those mechanics have a problem with fixing a slight oil leak ?
Its a complicated gasket angle and there is little work room
The oil smell is caused by the oil canister that comes from the crankshaft sensor that is up behind the radiator. change the oring and that's it. Greetings Lucas
Don't now
Thanks for a really interesting review, I live in England and currently looking to buy one of these after riding 3 BMW GS over the last ten years. I think the reliability of these bikes is a big factor for any motorcyclist planning on doing long distance trips.....thanks again... Grant
Grant Ridout 2012 owner here, do it, you won’t regret it. Fat Ninja ownership is a blast, but respect the weight when paddling it about, otherwise you’ll end up with broken plastic👍
Yes, very reliable, May I ask whereabouts in England you live? I bet you have great riding roads over there.
Eric
@@blackswanodysseys Eric I live in the midlands between Birmingham and Wolverhampton in a town called Stourbridge (The Black Country (Google it)). From Stourbridge its about an hour or so to the Snowdonia national park in Wales. Four hours south to the channel tunnel gets you to France and Europe. From the videos I watch on TH-cam The diversity of the terrain in America looks breathtaking and im always envious of what I see! Then again Norway and Scotland are pretty stunning. Ride safe friend.
Hello I have Friends that have Kawasaki bike with over 100000 miles running synthetic oil , still running great!
Great review!
Thank you David
Fixing to purchase one ! Thanks
Go for it! you won't have any regrets
Should be a recall for the rear brake lever. The story I got was that it was possible for a small rock to wedge in the linkage and keep the brake on. If you are not the original owner then this recall may have been done by the previous owner..
Recall- possibly. Never experienced that rear brake jam issue. But I see how that could happen
its square an someone somewhere sometime got a rock stuck in there. so u take it in, they put a new brake shaft/lever on thats round. its free.
Thanks! Excellent review. Purchased new a 2012 Connie and haven't looked at another bike since. She currently has 43k and last week had the forks seals replaced. I always wondered about Corbin seats because I have a Russell Day-Long seat. Might look into the Corbin with softer foam?
Ride safe.
My Corbin saddle was rock hard.
I have a Corbin that I drilled rivets out and put a gel pad 1:2 inch and install cover back on , 300 miles is nothing now per day.
I can strongly recommend the sargent replacement for this bike. its foam, and great, the seat it should have had. stay away from gel seats, they heat up in sun, and hold it., take hours to cool off.
I have a 2008, bought it last year with 98K km on it. The previous owner passed away so I don't know much of the history. I'm just getting into changing and servicing the brakes, new tires and an ecu flash. I want to check he valves but that's going to be a big tear down. You mentioned using a compression test to check valve clearances. Given that you measure the gap to check the valves, how would pressure testing be an option?
I'm not super mechanically up on this. However my local bike shop mechanic suggested this. He apparently did research on it stating it would reveal if the valves were opening and closing properly. i took his word. He has been a very detailed bike mechanic. But I should do my own research. Let me know if you learn if this pressure measurement is a fallacy
I think that the compression check would tell you if you had a tight valve and it wasn’t closing properly, but it can’t tell you about correct adjustment.
Thanks for the honest review. Is I 690 lb dry?
Did you find heat an issue?
I had a 2005 ST1300 That was an awesome bike, but destroyed front tires on account of being heavy and my heavy wrist.
Hello, The C-14 is 615 lbs dry. By the time you fuel, lube, and load it probably pushing upwards of 690 lbs. Excessive heat- not really. Sure there's engine heat but I don't find it any more than other big bore bikes. Certainly within my comfort, even on hot summer days. Never had issues with front time wear. I routinely went through two rears for every one front tire replacement.
The ST1300 is a great bike, but a way different ride. My friend owns one and we switched for rides. I'd say the ST1300 is more compliant. The C-14 rides more aggressively. If you buy a C-14 I highly recommend one with ABS brakes. On a heavy aggressive bike, it's a lifesaver.
Eric
@@blackswanodysseys thanks for that. Yeah.. I have ABS on all my bikes. No brianer. Good to hear about heat. My 1090 is said to be hot but its not a big deal.
I could def. See the 1300 being soft, and slightly old school.
Greg
I about to buy one, same year, 20k miles, but there is a big but, how obout the HEAT, I rido on Temps between 55-90° and almost everything sais the buje is almost unrideable at more Tha 85° Is that true, honest opinion.
Its not a hot bike, heat wise. I road my Connie through 100 f. desert with no concern. Gotta say stop and go traffic on a freeway is not fun. But bearable.
Finding a 2008 with only 20k miles is rear. At 20k you haven’t even approached the valve clearance check.
To compare though, what kind of bike have you ridden?
@@blackswanodysseys 03 cbr 1100xx then looking for something more confortable but equally smooth (all what they say obout the venerable XX is true, may be the best inline 4 ever built) a 09 fjr 1300, then I missed so much the XX I found the brutal unrestricted zx12r, love the bike, now I have both, but I have to sell one. A 08 mint Concours appeared (very rare in my country, Argentina) so thinking on selling both to have the power of the12r engine ( raw 178hp) and the ergos of the fjr.. I been reading a lot, a very reliable bike like the fjr but being. 08 I read on all forums that the heat management is a real problem.
@ I’ve ridden Harleys KTM 1290s both put out substantial engine heat. Those compared to the Concours 14 are quite similar. I suppose if a person rode in shorts and sneakers it would be real hot but with regular riding gear I found the engine fine.
I have a 2008 with ABS on it and it has around 14500 miles and after about 500 to 600 miles. It will start. Running rough At idol and I have to change the plugs they do not look bad but it solves the problem any ideas.
14k on a set of plugs isn’t much mileage. Wonder if something else is going on.
Hi, did u get your bike sorted?
I had one just could not deal with the engine heat.
Sorry to hear. For me i found the engine heat similar to Harleys and other big twins
thanks for the review, picking up 2008 with 21,000 miles this weekend. I've had an FJR 1300 in the past but the heat in traffic was unbearable. How's the heat with the C14? Is the oil leak visible planning to pick one up this weekend.
Riding any motorcycle in stop and go traffic, minus an EV, generates uncomfortable heat. I found the Concours isn't any worse. Prior to my Concours purchase, I too read about the supposed heat issue. I planned on purchasing one of the many aftermarket heats shields. But I never did because it turned out the heat not at all as bad as reported.
Let me know how the 2008 Concours is. I miss mine terribly.
came close to buying the FJR. Choose the Concours 14 over it though
Robert M, did you make the right decision in getting the Concours?
@@whenim6462 Yes I love the Concours and really love the power, sometimes too much. It will definitely get me in trouble this summer :)I do find I am more tired on long rides driving the Concours over my Versys 650. I will be adding bar risers and see if that helps, and my back as I stand 6'1 and find I'm more hunched over. I can say the engine heat does not compare to the Gen 1& 2 FJR, stuck in traffic on those summer days. Thanks for checking up.
@@MTL_Rider Thank you sir for honest opinion. I’m still in the thinking about it on a sport touring bike. I’ve got two Harley’s right now. I’m going to sell my 94 Heritage softail that has Ben in my collection and isn’t a rider as it’s only got 674 miles on it. I’m 65 and just don’t know if I’d kill myself on such a monster. I road a FZR 1000 for years but was quite a bit younger. Be safe.
How much did you spend on seats and backrest?thnx
They came with the bike when I bought it. And I wouldn’t recommend that after market saddle. Pretty uncomfortable
First valve check is at 26000,not 40000 miles
You are correct. If I said 40k in the video that was a voice blunder. Thanks for the correction
@@blackswanodysseys I'm just about to check the shims on mine and I'm dreading it, hours of work removing fairings
@@Team-fabulous Ya no fun. This is one of the only down points with the Connie. But I think all sport and tour bike with fairings are saddled with the same issue. Good luck and let me know how it goes.
Eric
How is it for someone who is only 5'7"
John,
That depends on your riding history and what you’re used to. If you are comfortable riding tall suspension dirt bikes you’ll be totally at ease. Basically at stops step off to one side. Drape a leg resting your thigh on the seat. This allows you to stand flat one foot. I’ll make a video displaying this stop stance.
Its a common remedy for short riders and/or tall bikes. Let know if this makes sense.
Eric
5'5~~170lb.
57 yrs old, been riding since 16yrs old.
Had FJR FOR 10yrs went to Connie and love it. Weight melts w/motionimbsure the suspension has dropped but I can flat-foot in work boots w/Corbin seat and almost flat foot in Sidi boots.
FJR more technical in turns but Connie's engine is a beast!
In my opinion.
Compression check and valve clearances are totally different and do not relate to another. There is no way around doing the valve clearance inspection. You can have perfect compression check and out of spec valve clearances and vice/versa.
Interesting to know
Wrong, they're totally related. They're checking for valves that are getting pulled into the head too far due to wear,thus, letting them hang open a small amount. When that happens compression is lost. This engine has a bucket over shim design-not rocker arms. They don't ever get loose (unless your cam lobe wears away) they only get too tight
@@aaronanhalt5088Looks like I have to elaborate more. You can have a broken ring or a hole in the piston and have perfect valve clearances and a compression test will be bad. You can have a flat cam lobe or worn bucket with a loose valve lash and have a good compression test. You can have valve recession and a out of spec (too tight) valve clearance and have a good compression test. A compression test is not a substitute for checking the valve clearances. You must check the valves. Kawasaki has this check every 16k miles and the last time I had it done the dealer dinged me $1200. I did it at 25k miles and I noticed the engine ran a little quieter. Checking the valves on the Connie 14 is a major PIA. I bought my Connie new in 2008 and I still have it so it must be worth it. Maybe the next time I'll do it myself. Before doing a compression check you need to check the valve clearances and make sure the throttles are open before doing the test. If you have CV carbs, you have to remove the carbs before doing the test.
Agree, never skip valve adjustments. Shops hate doing them since it eats into their gravy jobs and are a bit more time consuming and requires more technical expertise. Any shop that says a compression test is fine cuts corners. I would stay far away from them, what else do they cut corners on?
This bike is closer to 700 pounds wet and not 600 as the reviewer says.
Yes, the dry weight is about 615 lbs. So easily over 700 with fluids, rider, and stuff.
@@blackswanodysseys Dry Weight is a pretty useless spec. Curb Weight (without rider) is ten pounds shy of 700.
Pretty sure GTR didnt make same power as ZX14, GTR was detuned.
Yep. Tuned for more midrange torque and less high rpm horsepower
try a ivan's ecu reflash. i picked up a 08 connie a couple of months ago. it really makes a difference. read all of ivans' page. your throttle jerkiness will be gone.
www.ivansperformanceproducts.com/ZG1400.htm
ZG1000 bud