Concours vs. Versys 1000 - Battle of two great machines!
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- It seems like once or twice a week, I get asked why we decided to stay with the Versys instead of the Concours. This video addresses that question. Both of the bikes are great machines, but one fits our riding style better than the other. Does not mean that one is better than the other. It means one makes our riding experience a better one than the other. If you had to choose, which bike would fit you best?
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I've ridden my 2009 C1400 Concours (KonKoor, no s mon ami) for over 125,000 smiling miles. Bulletproof reliable and will bomb the twisties once you get a 190/55/17 PR Michelin installed and a "sag set". No problem with heat either if you have the inner fairing foams- I think some bikes came without them from the factory.. I have smoked FJR's, and a K1600 GT much to his chagrin. I'm 70 and do several long trips a year with 400 mile days and a Seth Laam seat. Met a guy in California with 290,000 miles on his 2008 C1400 with normal maintenance.
sounds like you really enjoy the C-14. I know we did as well. Take care and thank you for watching!
I just bought a 2008 c14 9700 miles . I love it . Happy to hear your input. Glad this wasn’t a bash video but more of an informative video. Very will put. Thanks
We loved our 08. It does get hot, bjt other than that the machine was a lot of fun. We put a ton of mikes on ours and it is still running strong. Thanks for watching.
love the video when someone talk about the bike that i own the C14, i saw the VERSYS but the look of the bike did nothing for me i dont like the new style of sport touring these days the re all high skinny bike and i like my bike to be big not that im short im 6 feet 200lbs, but when i park my C14 after a day of riding im always looking back at it and that a good sign. Ride safe mate.
We loved our C-14 (we put 75K on her) thanks for watching the video and ride safe!
@@jerryandjamie2up Versys is like a big fancy pretty Enduro, Concours 14 is the Barge the Enduros get shipped over on..
The super sonic barge...lol
Good review. I traded my 08 Vstrom 1000 for a 2013 Concours. I could ride the Vstrom quicker in the twisties for sure but 350 kilometers was my limit. I've ridden my Connie 1000 kms a couple times and I was tired but ok. I may look at the Versys again next year as I'm going to be 63 and it's a beast to push around 🤣
I love riding it though, the power is addictive, I just have to keep reminding myself I'm not 25 anymore 😉
The power of the C-14 is addictive. I do find the Versys gets me around probably as quick as I should be doing haha! Thanks for watching!
Was going through the pros and cons of the two and this video really sealed the deal. Very helpful video. Versys it is 😁
You will not be disappointed! Thanks for watching!
I've owned both, and you nailed it. I've owned both, still have a 15 V1k. I also owned a Versys 650 Lt for years and used it as a commuter bike. The Versys platform just works. The C14 is a great bike, but it wasn't as fun in the twisted, and I never found it to be as comfortable as what most reviewers would lead you to believe. (I'm 6'4") I added the touring seat and went through multiple windshields trying to find the sweet spot, AST risers, etc., still not what I thought was "comfortable". I cut some weight with an exhaust swap, but she was still a big girl. I like the Versys considerably better, and will more than likely upgrade to a newer model someday. Right now my dual sports and Africa Twin get most of my attention. Ride safe. 👍
I like the AT, I have a KTM 390 Adventure as my adventure bike and it has been amazing. Just finished a 3800 mile trip to the MABDR and the little KTM was great!
@@jerryandjamie2up that little 390 has been on my radar a while. I've got a (believe it or not lol) KLX300 dual sport version that I ride A LOT, and a trusty old DR650. Both are well sorted with nice mods. But I could slot that 390 in there somewhere I think....🤔
Your decision makes sense based on your style of riding. I actually purchased the 2013 C14 specifically because of the re-designed fairing design. As far as handling, I can say that the Concours doesn't feel heavy to me at all. I don't do any 2 up riding and so I can't speak on that. I do have a Garmin Zumo 595 LM and I use it for route planning and tracking routes. I love it. I'm 52 now and as I get older, I may need to swap out my Concours, but for right now I kinda love it.
Just ride my friend.. you are on an awesome machine! Take care and ride safe!
Я тоже думал, что gtr1400 слишком быстрый для меня, по этому продал его и купил harley, поездил сезон и сейчас опять покупаю gtr, мне 50. У меня до ближайшего соседнего города 430 км. И на харлее это расстояние проезжается уж очень долго)))
I’m a little late to Kawasaki, but have looked at them for decades, especially the Concours. Recently got a lightly used ‘19 Versys 1000 and it’s a revelation to me. It’s the antithesis to the big ADVs, baggers, and STs; so light and nimble. Although a little taller than I would normally prefer, it’s so light that it’s not a concern (so far) with my 32” inseam and touring boots, and the electronic suspension makes it easy to lower preload/height when stiffness isn’t needed. Best overall riding experience I’ve ever had. One test ride and I was hooked instantly. I’ve only had one previous I-4 (K1200LT) and never found another engine type that I liked more for touring and some sport. Happy to have a strong I-4 again. The V1k is great. Everything about it is easy, usable, and smooth. The electronic suspension is fantastic. Power is perfectly matched to the chassis and fairing/shield. The center stand is so easy and will make the occasional chain work easy. Easily the best value ever for my money, given the overall package. Appreciate your videos; they factored into my decision to chance it on the’19.
I agree with all of that! we love ours
I commute on a 2018 C14 through the city. I love the bike, but thought of getting a more "city" friendly bike. Thanks for the review!
Great you added passenger input, makes a difference for many of us in buying decisions
Yeah - since we ride a ton of 2up it made sense. Thanks for watching and ride safe!
I have a 2017 Concours 14 and I agree with the handling somewhat... I too felt it was a bit heavy in the turns when I bought it new, but I knew once I tuned the suspension for my weight and my gear, I knew it would ride amazingly. I adjusted my suspension in the front and rear of the bike and now I could do a track day and drag my knee on my KING CON!
We did many track days on the C-14. Just takes some work haha! Thanks for watching!
The handling gets a lot more nimble is you run a 55 profile rear tire instead of the flat 50s. I almost didn’t purchase my 2013 C-14 after the test drive, but first thing I had done was the tire change. Really changes the handling for the better.
@@nphare without a doubt! I run a 55 rear tire and it helped a lot!
Mate I got a 2013 GTR14 (Concourse) and had a Blackbird before that. Not an issue with comfort and although I cant go through go twisties quite as fast as the Blackbird, there isnt a problem and I dont find it tiring. You dont have to fight it through a corner - you point it. Only problem I got is the GTR doesnt lke dirt roads or loose surfaces.
I loved our C-a4. Thanks for watching and ride safe!
I'm always looking for videos featuring two up riders. Marina has about 50K riding two up with me and she still enjoys it. Fortunately no accidents yet! We've put about 325K on BMWs, yet I am now looking for something a bit lighter, both financially and physically! If we ever sell our R1200GSA, whatever we buy MUST have heated grips and cruise control. Great video!
Thanks for watching. We are all about doing things together. Riding, camping or jeeping... we do it together. This will always be a 2UP motorcycle channel. Thanks again for watching and subscribing!
@@jerryandjamie2up I'll be watching more of your content, especially until it quits storming here. Marina will be doing some riding with me this spring!
I've enjoyed multiple bikes from a Gpz 1100, Gpz 750 Turbo, 600 Ninja, 750 Ninja, ZX12 ZX14, and now the C14. All of these bikes I enjoyed to the fullest. Without a doubt the last 3 will always be special. The C14 does have some issues with fueling this is cured easily by flashing the ECU. The potato cannon on the right side of the bike weighs about 40 to 45 lbs. Replacing it with a 2 brothers weighing around 12 lbs removing bags, and center stand saves 60 lbs total. Once the stock rear tire needs replacement a 200, or 190-55/17 instead of the 190-50/17 will provide ear to ear grins. Tire pressure always 42psi, 2psi either way with any bike your out of the comfort zone.
Then the dreaded suspension adjustment, apparently riders tend to make due with the stock settings. This will not do! It is a pain finding the best setup for your type of riding but once you have the C14 dialed in will stay with 1000 SS all day long. Not to mention continue reeling in the miles while your friends unfold themselves from their mounts and make their way to the chiropractor. The C14 at 610 lbs will eat any Sport touring package alive other than Kawasaki pressurized 1000 which costs far more than the C14.
We had a lot of fun miles on the C-14. It is a great sport touring platform. We had a two brothers pipe installed and it looked and sounded great. Thanks for watching and ride safe!
I’ve ridden many types. Between the sport bikes, cruisers and touring....A couple years ago I went from a HD Road Glide to a Triumph Street Triple. I thought I’d take a break from touring, the triple is my daily commuter to work (30 miles). However, I fell into a 2012 Concours last fall and now have both it and the Triumph. If I had bought the Concours first, I probably wouldn’t own the Triumph. It has the speed and bags to meet all my needs. Your video has me afraid to try the Versys! Great video!
Thanks for watching! The Versys is a great bike and very under rated IMHO.
Very thorough explanation on your reasoning for your choice of bikes! I’m 63, but only started riding about 11 years ago. Rode a Suzuki Burgman 650 for about 3 years and 27K miles, and even though it did everything I could ask of it, I wanted to get something that had more suspension travel for my wife’s comfort. Did a lot of research online, read magazine reviews, etc., but it wasn’t until I saw the new 2013 Triumph Trophy SE did I make up my mind. It had features even the Gold Wing didn’t have - I mean everything!
Long story short, I put 54,000 miles on my first one, and came across a deal I couldn’t refuse on a 2017, and have over 30,000 on it. The only issue with the Trophy? Well, I’m a Jeep guy myself, and I’d ride past some pretty cool looking forest roads, really wanting to explore. But not on that 700 lb. bike! So last summer, I added a 2020 Tiger Rally Pro to the stable. The wife will never ride pillion on it, but she has been riding her 2015 Can Am Spyder RT anyway (40,000 miles), so no worries there. Even though the Tiger is much more comfortable to ride about town (and definitely more versatile!), that Trophy will still more comfortably eat up 500+ mile days...
I actually rode an older Trophy Trophy. love the triple motor. Thanks for watching the video.
We have the same bike 👍👍 only issue I have is servicing in Canada is a pain in the A##
Yeah, the dealer in my hometown is terrible for service & sales, although the parts guy is great. Fortunately, a dealer in the town where I work added Triumph in 2014, and has done a great job for me on any repairs & maintenance needed. Good enough that I bought the Tiger there... Hopefully, as Triumphs continue to sell well, dealers will improve!
The heat was fixed in 2010 on the C14. The 09 has the same fairings as the 08. The '10 and up basically has extra rubbery trim in between the motor and the fairing to direct air away from your legs. Apparently the 09 and 09 would almost cook your legs at stop lights and signs. I had a 10, great bike. The next big change was 2015 with the updated suspension settings, gearing and new windshield.
I'd also highly recommend the FJR from Yamaha as well. It is basically neck and neck with the C14. It is not quite as a rocket at the top end, but it is torquier at lower RPMs making low speed stuff a little easier. It is almost just as heavy, though post 2013 it gets cruise. It only has a 5 speed until 2016 though... if you are used to a Kawasaki it will be a learning curve... I kept trying to shift to a non existent 6th a lot on that bike, mine was an 08. It's bags are a hair smaller, still has heated grips, no TPMS, but it has a way better looking ass... the C14 taillight situation has always bothered me, lol. Also odd that Kawi never added cruise to the Connie...
I am also thinking of a Versys for my next bike... your vid was helpful, thanks!
I have a 2009 C14 and it's no problem with heat as everyone says. It has foam blockers in the fairings, and apparently some bikes came w/o them or they were removed by the dealer for use on other bikes.
@@AlanSmith-dg6lc hmmm, I was sure it was corrected with the fairing redesign. But I stand corrected.
I have owned c-10's, c-14's and currently own a '12 c14 and a '15 versys 1000. I have modified all of them to my liking. I have to say at the present time, the Versys 1000 is my daily go to bike. I live on a dirt road now, not good on the connie, but the Versys is a natural. Here in Fl it gets HOT, and during the summer riding sucks. I can ride the Versys in in the heat like I rode unfaired bikes years ago... no heat soak. The c-14 blasts it in the hp dept, but like you said, I can get in trouble quick, whereas the Versys has me riding more sanely. I don't see the gadgets on the new Versys worth the asking price though, so I'll keep the '15. All in all, I think your review was very fair and spot on.
Thanks for watching... ride safe and try and stay cool in that FL heat!
I had a “newer” C14, and I sold it and got an Africa Twin.
I regret that decision every day. The C14 was an outstanding machine. It was a 9/10. It would be a 10/10 if the seat was more comfortable (for me) and it had cruise control. But much much better than my Africa Twin.
We had to have the seat changed, as it was a major flaw for us as well. The cruise control thing has never been big for me, so no issue there. I love the AT. What do you not like about it? If I had unlimited funds I would have an AT in the garage. Thanks for watching and ride safe!
@@jerryandjamie2up The Africa Twin has good things about it. The Concours has great things about it. It’s 3 times as fast and smooth as the AT. The AT is very unstable at highway speeds and needs another gear to me. The Concours is the opposite. It’s very stable and comfortable. The brakes are much better on the Concours. The one and only thing the Twin has going for it is the twisties. It’s better in the twisties. The Africa Twin needs at least 50 more HP and a steering stabilizer and a higher top gear.
Nice review. I currently own a 18 Versys 1000 LT and 19 GW Tour. I have owned a C14 and FJRs plus others. I agree with you 100%. If I was in the market for a new bike and the Versys was not available, my choice would be a FJR or a VStrom. Keep the videos coming and hope to meet you one day.
Thank you for watching! Be safe out there!
I’ve ridden with people who owned a V-Strom. They all loved it and it got great gas mileage. Great for long haul trips. For me though coming from a ZX-14R, it felt a bit under powered.
@@jerryandjamie2up How do you compare the Versys to the Wing? I currently ride a K1200LT, but it is 17 years old and I am about ready to move up. I test rode a new Wing in 2018 when they came out and wasn’t that impressed with the too small luggage, too hard seat, too small fuel tank and lousy navigation system. I am looking at the Versys now. It would need a Russell seat and I am concerned also that the cases are on the small side for long trips two-up. My wife and I have ridden our LT to Alaska from Pennsylvania, to Newfoundland, around the US twice, etc., so when I say long trips, I mean multiple weeks. 😁
@@LTVoyager I have ridden many Wings and I will say they are a great machine, however much different than the Versys. The bags are on the smaller side and we do have the big top box. We did a three-week trip last summer and had enough room. We just scheduled Laundry stops. Funny thing about the seat... I love it and so does Jamie my pillion. I have an air hawk and she rides it stock with no issues. We tried the Corbin and it was way too hard. I do not think you can go wrong with either bike. Let us know what you have decided. I rode the LT and I will say you are upgrading haha!
@@jerryandjamie2up The Versys LT is certainly a technology upgrade from the BMW LT, but I am not sure it is an upgrade in most other ways. The K1200LT is the best long distance touring bike I have ridden and by a good margin. The K1600 BMWs have some advantages in power and technology, but after renting K1600GTLs three times for tours of Europe and the UK, we found the GTL to fall far short of the LT in terms of weather protection and comfort, particularly for the passenger. My wife is fairly tall and the seat on the 1600 is much higher than on our 1200 and she got terrible helmet buffeting even with the windshield all the way up. On the LT and the Wing, she has a nice quiet ride. I suspect she will have the same helmet buffeting issue on the Versys, but we need to find one to ride to find that out.
You are soooooo right about tires on the C14. My 2012 eats thru the rear tires like crazy. Doesn't help that I ride it like a supersport 😆. My 2012 C14 has factory heated grips. Cruise Control is for wireless throttles. Nice video...
Loved the bike. Did not mind buying tires every other month.. haha. Thanks for watching.
Great descriptions, enjoyed. Stay warm up there in chilly AR.
Thanks for watching! Ride safe!
Hey Jerry, this is a great video.
I'm in Hereford, England, and I was originally thinking about getting a Concours (over here it's called the GTR 1400) because I have Wales practically on my front door and some beautiful valley roads to play on. But that was the thing that I worried about, too: the weight. The 1400 is a big ol' girl, and, although she hides it well in a straight line, the twisty bits would present a problem. I've got a busted knee from an accident from 2010, so the weight and maneuverability of the 1400 presented a genuine cause for concern.
Therefore, being a life long Kawasaki fan, I looked to see what else they had in their stable, and the Versys 1000 has definitely peaked my interest.
I'm getting my bike in May of 22 and will be going for a 2015 to 2018 model. Its a lot lighter, is a highly capable tourer and, as you stated yourself, running costs of the Versys are significantly lower than those of the 1400. And being a taller bike, my bad knee won't be folded underneath me on the Versys as much as it would be on the GTR.
Your review and side by side comparison of the bikes was exactly what I was looking for, even though some may wonder why a comparison would even be needed between two such fundamentally different bikes!? Basically, they're both mile munchers.
Apart from the glorious Welsh roads and scenery, I'm going to take a trip to Florence, Italy (a tick off my Bucket List) on the bike during the last two weeks in June, and I'm gonna be doing it on a Kawasaki Versys 1000 😉👍🏻.
Stay safe. Stay healthy.
God Bless.
I don't think you would be disappointed by choosing either machine. I do feel after reading your reply that the Versys will be a great machine for you. Make sure you go and join the Versys forum here: www.versys1000.com/index.php tell them that Jerry sent you. Talk with you soon. Shoot me a note when you pick up the Versys. Thanks again for reading.
Great Video' I live on my Goldwing DCT GL1800 and my H2 SE-SX but want to pick-up a late model Concours and ZX14 as I feel like they will be great fun in retirement
Can't go wrong with either of those choices. Happy retirement
Coming off an 09 R1 my 13 Concours doesn't feel super fast, but definitely has some stonk. You notice the handling difference, but you can only go so crazy on the roads around here without being thrown in jail. I like the creature comforts - wind protection, heated grips etc. - but I don't use the storage much except the top box. My wife doesn't really like riding 2 up, but my kids (7 and 10) do like to go on the back, and the big bike does seem to offer some sense of security. Haven't tried a versys, rode with a guy on one one time and the thing will definitely wheelie.
Yeah compared to an R1 I could see the power does not impress haha. I loved the C-14 it is just a big machine. The Versys is the best sport touring bike I have ridden. Lots of fun.
For me, no doubt at all, I’d take the Concours every time.
I did like my C-14, but have to say I am liking the Versys BIG TIME!
I have the second gen con and wouldn't swap it for a sus ever
Plano kawasaki? I live down the road. Nice to know ur local
Thank you for watching! We lived in Plano for over 15 years and our kids still live in the area. We live in Arkansas now. Don't miss the metromess. We love AJ and the team at Plano Suzuki - Kawasaki. Have bought 4 bikes there and will always do business with them, if available.
The story of my life.... after about 70,000 miles on a C 14, I switched to a Versys 1000 LT SE+ in 2020. About 150 lb (68 kg) lighter and about 35 hp less, but still more than enough power. Cruise control was the deal breaker..... living in the midwest, I have a long haul to the Appalachians or the Rockies. Sometimes, I miss the "hand of God" acceleration of the C 14, and the electrically adjustable windscreen of the C 14, but the Versys is still a comfortable mile-eater.
The Versys is a great machine
I've ridden in Idaho all my life and heat off the motorcycle is almost never an issue, in fact if the 08 c14 delivers excess heat to the rider, that would be a good thing. I'm always freezing my ass off when it's 44 degrees in the morning, in August.
The heat was nice in the wintertime. However, that heat in the Dallas Summers was brutal. Thank you for watching. Ride safe!
I own klr and kle 650s and I've been looking for C14 for longer trips, thanks for this video Jerry now i'm sure what to get, that will be the versys 1000.
Thank you for watching. Good luck, you will not be disappointed with the Versys.
Very interesting - thanks for your great comparison. I was set on a ZZR1400 but then I thought a GTR1400 makes more sense. Now I have to think again! 😎
Thank you for watching. Ride safe
Was considering a new Versys 1000, Yamaha FJR1300, or the Concours 14 to trade on this past spring. But of course anything new had to be ordered, with the only information dealers could give me being "It would get here when it gets here. Could be 2 weeks, could be 8 months." However, the one dealer had a nice condition, low mileage used '16 Concours. With my trade I was out the door for $7500.00, and I have been enjoying every second of the thing so far while keeping the rest of the $$$ I was going to spend in the savings account.
Thanks for watching! Congrats! You will not be disappointed! Its a great machine.
You think a Connie is heavy, try riding my Goldwing!! I’ve owned a Ninja 1000. Decent bike, but needed more power. I put a lot of miles on my bikes so adjusting that frikkin chain every 600 or so miles was a PITA! Been screaming at Kawasaki to upgrade the Connie for over a decade. I would trade my Goldwing for an updated Connie, but it does not look like that will happen.
I took an older Goldwing for a ride and thought I could run over anything, they are like tanks.
I have rode the wing and I have to say the bike is awesome. I am not ready to won one, but what a great machine. On that note, I would stick with the C-14 at this time in our riding life. Take care and thanks for watching!
I’ve been debating moving on from my 14 klr to one of these two bikes specifically because of 2up. The dealer pretty much echoed your comments. Starting to seem like a slam dunk.
You can't go wrong with either bike. At this time in our riding life, the Versys has been a fantastic fit!. Thanks for watching and ride safe!
Nice review! I have owned both the Concours 14 and Versys 1000 and your observations echo my experience. To me, the Concours is more visually appealing, warmer on a cool day (and on a hot day), smoother and faster (in a straight line). However, the Versys is more nimble, lighter, easier to shift smoothly, not as hot, and, as you touched on, less mentally and physically fatiguing over the course of a day in the saddle. I love the Concours but ride the Versys year round, not just in cooler weather. 🙂
Thank you for watching. It is great being a part of the Versys team. Take care and Ride Safe!
@@jerryandjamie2up You too!
Excellent information. Currently on a Bandit 12 and looking for a bigger, more comfortable long distance bike. Considering an FJR or a C14, both for shaft drive, fuel injection and water cooling. Rode a '19 Versys 1000 at a Kawa dealer demo day in early '19 and was super impressed with the ergos and power. FI and cooling are deal breakers, but I'd seriously consider a Versys for its comfort. Never really considered the weight, but the 165lb difference is more than my wife weighs. Makes sense for when she rides with me. Great video. Thanks!
Love the Bandit - What a torque machine. The weight makes a huge difference INHO.. Ride safe!
@@jerryandjamie2up torque for days, no mistake, but a little too cramped. We are of similar height and I want to do longer days than I can on the B12. My buddy has an FJR and I’ve ridden the C14, but I’d gladly get a V if the deal is right. I’ve already got the chain tools.
Love my 2012 c14 so far the best bike ive owned
94K miles and I enjoyed every mile. Thank you for watching!
Are you OK with the Versys's quickshifter? One guy in the UK described the feel of it as similiar to "standing on a dead rat". Others have complained about its sponginess, too.
It is spongy, but works well.
Currently ride a BMW R1250RT, which I really enjoy. Still, I'd like to experience another style of bike. I like the Concours and at 6-1 and 225 lbs, I think it would fit very with my 4-11 100 lb wife very well. Then I saw the Versys...am I crazy to give up my R1250 RT?
I love the RT, but really enjoy the Versys
Funny, just commented on an obscure off-topic post, mentioned "Kaw C14", now my feed shows me this.
Folks, it's not algorithms it's alien AI, we are Slave's in the Matrix!
Too funny! Thank you for watching!
I've been a Harley rider for 30 years. I've been looking at Kawasaki for a bit now. Still on the fence between these two bikes.
You can’t go wrong with either mate, the only pluses for the C14 is being to cruise at really high speeds ( if that’s your thing) & the windscreen is better. Of course not having to keep lubing a chain is also advantageous. Ride safe on what ever you ride.
They are both great machines. Just be ready.. it will be a different experience than that of your Harley. Ride safe and let us know what you decided to go with. Thank you for watching!
@@jerryandjamie2up I ended up with the H2 SX SE. Crazy bike but I love it
@@norm6645 I actually got to ride one and they are awesome! Good choice - th-cam.com/video/r7mKPTBULHU/w-d-xo.html
@@norm6645 nice! I got to test drive an H2 when they first came out. I destroyed the rear tire on the 60 mile ride. Riding on the German Autobahn with that bike was a lot of fun. The dealer didn’t care because he had the bike on loan from Kawasaki for a show on the weekend. He used the destroyed rear tires to show how much fun one can have on the bike.
Having also been a 2008 Concours 14 owner (living in Phoenix no less) I concur with the heat issue. There was no way to mitigate the heat on my lower legs with clothing alone. I just garaged it from June thru September. Outside of the heat issue, it’s a motorcycle designed to do thousands of comfortable freeway miles, and in the cooler months I enjoyed the hell out of it.
Thank you for watching! It was a hot machine, however, we made so many great memories of her. I would buy one again.
Gotta check and see if your bike has the lower fairing foams installed- mine has them, some don't and it makes a big difference. They are stock items on the 2009 C14, and can be bought at dealers.
I've got a 2018 Versys... bought as a left over model for more than a couple thousand off. I've added the MC Cruise cruise control system. Love the bike, but the pannier design is a bit frustrating for commuting. A laptop doesn't fit very well! BUT, it does swallow my 2x helmet. I'm changing the sprockets to a 16t front and 41t rear for better cruising. Should drop the RPM's by about 600 at 70 MPH.
Hey Dan, Thanks for watching. I have cruise on the 19 Versys and have used it twice I think. Not a big deal for me to have it or not. The panniers are odd shaped that is for sure. I have the top case so my work back pack goes in there when I use the bike to commute. Thanks again for watching!
You sold me on the versys..as you putting on the miles does the versys get really hot?..thank you so I appreciate the review
Not at all. The heat has never been an issue
I love both bikes! I wish i've riden them! And since i'm getting older i think the versys is a one way decision. And i don't know why every channel just buries the versys...
I agree 100%, the Versys does not get its just due IMHO.
I crashed my C14 5 days ago. Likely written off. I’m considering the Versys if the insurance company pays out.
Sorry that you are having to make the choice like that. Glad you are not to badly banged up.
Good review all of my riding is two up with the Mrs
We have a MT09 Tracer 2019 from new But me and the Mrs keep going on about how much we loved our GTR 1400 so smooth and great for two up on UK roads
We changed if for a Harley Road King but couldn't get on with it so it had to go Will have a look at the Versys Do like the look of the Triumph Tiger 1200 too Ride safe
Love the MT-09, I am really liking the new GT as well. Thanks for watching!
The Concourse is based on a stretched out Cruise Missile which needs wheelbase for stability. Much better with a 36" inseam.
The power is intoxicating. It also helps to have a 34" inseam. I always felt in control of the machine. Thank you for watching!
Hi, good feedback. I just got a Versus 2014 Mk1. US got Mk 2 in 2015 (US Gen1 /Gen 2 EU). I love power and tallish seat but with top box sometimes hard to get off or get on in tight spaces. Stay safe, warm and well
Thanks for watching! Ride Safe!
After riding with shaft and belt drive my mind is not even open to a chain. Other people have said the same thing about the weight of the kawasaki. As for riding a verses I don't have the inseam for it.
It is a tall bike for sure!
Hi there my friend. Hope this text and short message finds you and your partner and family well. Just wanted to ask as you purchased the 2019 Kawasaki versus
How it is and how it’s handling and how you’re getting on with it
I’m going to be picking up 2023, versus SE grand tourer
HOPEFULLY WITH ALL THE BELLS AND WHISTLES AND ELECTRIC SUSPENSION
Would absolutely love your feedback on how you’re getting on with this
Warmest regards
Sorry for the delay. I have been out riding. I just rolled 35K and just completed a 6000 mile trip and I love the Versys more each day. It handles great and I love all of the tech.
I had a 1990 GTR 1000 Kawasaki and put 42000 miles on it. I thought the bike was fantastic, enough power to have fun on, weather protection was excellent, a massive tank, great mpg and easy for the shortest of pillion to get on to. I sold the bike to buy a 2010 GTR 1400 and in my opinion the 1000 is a much better bike. The 1400s fueling was horrible with a very snatch throttle, notchy gear change and when in fun mode heavy mpg but a ECU reflash from Steve at Shoudhavebeen engineering cures all of the problems. However the bikes weather protection could be better, a struggle for a short pillion to climb on to, the tank could be bigger and I found the bike to be quite tire critical, I now run Avon 3D Storm which have fixed the vague handling issues. Plus the linked brakes gave a very strange feeling in the rear pedal. I now love the big 1400 and the power is addictive but I had to do plenty to it to make it the way I wanted it. All in all they are both good bikes but you can get sucked into the game of thinking spending big money on a bike is gonna be better than your old machine and sometimes it's not...
We had a C-10 and a C-14. Loved both bikes. Thanks for watching.
Second remark, I was surprised by the low tire mileage. My HD RGU gets about 10k on the rear and more on the front, using Michelin Commander IIs. I have never had to replace a kevlar drive belt. 20K isn't bad for a chain. I had a 71 Honda 750 that loved to eat chains. I always carried a spare.
I think it has more to do with riding style. We ride pretty hard at times and being two up with lots of horsepower does not bode well for tires. It is a small price to pay for all that fun.
I cannot speak to 2 up. My wife rides her own HD RG. I switched from HD/Dunlops to Michelins because the Dunlop front tires would cup so badly that I would replace them early because of it. Cupping comes from hard cornering, assuming good suspension.
I have a 2015 concours 14, it basically runs the same tires as my Z1000, they are sport tires for handling so softer rubber than the harley cruiser would have. I get anywhere from 7,000 to 9,000 per set of tires. They are making more advanced touring tires where the middle patch of the tire has a harder compound to help with the mileage. The thing that surprised me is you have to change both, with my Vulcan 800 the front tire lasts almost twice as long as the rear.
@@evilwestsidefan9249 the front dunlops had tread left but were badly cupped, the noise and vibration made me replace them. Same experience with 2 touring class bikes. The Michelins don't cup like the dunlops, but even the rear wears longer by about 2,000 miles. Usually 10k for the rears.
@@gbinman same here original front tire cupped on me, I was told to up the front tire psi to help with that.
Fantastic video, glad I stumbled across your channel! Subscribed!
I just bought a '22 Ninja 1000SX in May. My first foray into the ST side of riding, and so far seemingly a perfect fit for me. I'm 5' 8" and only ride solo. This is my first liter bike, first I-4, first fully-faired bike, and first with CC and the other electronic doodads. It is amazing 🤩.
It is, however, surprising to me just how hot it gets if I happen to be in some stop and go area. Once that fan kicks on, yikes! I wasn't expecting my air-cooled Guzzi to have been the clear winner in that respect. Also, with all of this shiny plastic, I'm curious about your thoughts on the protection available for these types of motorcycles. Do you use frame sliders, etc, or suggest them?
Cheers from Vermont!
Thank you for watching! The bikes do get hot! It is crazy! You will love the ST side of things. Thank you for subscribing!
Funny, my father's name is Jerry and he owns a 2019 Kawasaki Versys SE LT Plus and I own a 2010 Concours 14.
Having ridden his bike for only about 50 miles, it was quite good, especially with all of the new electronics and what have you for 19. (Just 13k new OTD) I haven't been out on my Concours yet, bought it in November and I've only gotten to put 10 miles on it since then, but have owned an 08 Concours 14 before this one and was impressed with everything but the heat, which is resolved for the 2010 and on.
That is a screaming deal! Yeah I rode later models of the C-14 and the heat issue was gone. I do miss that adrenaline rush! Ride safe!
I used to lean my 81 550 ltd a little too hard at low speeds with my girlfriend and the center stand would kick out the rear wheel a few inches and scare the hell out of me
Yeah that is scary when that happens
I am trying to decide between the Versys and the Tracer 900 GT.
I love the look of the new Tracer 900 GT. I have ridden both and I love the triple motor. The newer look Yamaha is awesome looking. Ride safe and happy shopping. Post pics when you decide! Would love to see your choice.
For what its worth, The only reason I chose the Versys is my 6'3" frame. If I was under 6ft, I probably would have went with the Tracer. They're both amazing bikes, the Versys just fit me better. Love the new Big V
@@dreadnought1984 that is worth a lot to one who is trying to decide. Thank you.
@@4my4mykaren now I am on the fence with the Ninja 1000sx.
One thing I don't like about the heated grips on my Versys is lack of an indicator level. Would be nice to just be able to glance down, see where you are at and adjust if necessary.
Nice video Jerry, well said!! All the best and keep safe.
That is true.. but damn they work well haha Ride safe!
I used to use heated grips and they made my hands itchy so switched to bar muffs. miss my bikes.
I have not run into that issue. I used muffs for years and they are very good and do the job. Thanks for reading!
Great to hear your thoughts after owning and putting many miles on both machines. Versys seems like a awesome machine.
It really is! - Thanks for watching
Comparing a Versys to a Concours is kind of like comparing apples to oranges. The Versys is more like a Yamaha Tracer, Multistrada, Tiger, etc. Unfortunately though, the Versys is overpriced for what it is. I've ridden and owned a Concours, I've owned a 2015 FJR1300, and I currently own a Triumph Tiger 1200 XCx. By far the Triumph Tiger 1200 is the best all purpose bike (for me). It has 141hp and every imaginable electronic gadget you could want on it... Including heated grips, heated seat, cruise, full electronic suspension, 6 rider modes, TFT Display, LED Lighting, Large Fuel Tank, etc. ** Also, that Black/White Versys looks like it could be a pretty cool police bike! The Versys 1000 goes for about $18,000 up here - should be more in the 12k - 13k range in my opinion. I've been riding about 30 years now.
It is crazy that the price of all bikes have gone nuts! I loved the tiger, but it is not as comfortable for a pillion as the versys. Its all about taste and perspective. 10 years ago I would have never bought the Versys due to price.. I am thankful that price is less of a concern now. Take care and Ride Safe!
I enjoyed your review. It is more useful to me that perhaps most. I live north of Dallas and have been riding harley touring bikes. Current is a 15 RGU CVO. I am looking for something with better tech and less weight. Mine is about 950 lbs without loading the bags. It does have a lot more torque but as I have aged I am feeling the weight more than I like and I expect that with less weight it wouldn't be missed. I have been looking for alternatives with a main concern about fitment/comfort. I am 6' 3" and don't want to perched like a bird on a stick for riding all day. My wife and I have done many very long rides and she rides her own Road Glide.
Thanks for watching.
The concours 14 is smooth as silk on the interstate and fun in the twisties, like Jerry said if you push hard in the twisties its more work but not like your harley. You would be in heaven with an addiction to the torque/speed. I don't care where you are in the power band the connie pulls across the board. Its basically a touring superbike.
@@evilwestsidefan9249 without going into an extended brand war, I haven't ridden your bike and you haven't ridden mine. I recently did ride a 2021 Versys, it felt like half the weight, which I would expect would be close to what you would experience. The clutch was a one finger pull. The power delivery was good almost in any gear, but I can also say the same about power with my HD. My bike is higher in torque by far I enjoyed the ride but it was limited (2 miles was their policy with an escort) I talked him into going to a local road with fast double esses. Going easy I left my escort without even pressing. I liked the way it cornered. I wish metrics allowed test rides like Harley.
A week prior, I road a Pan America. They gave it to me and said have fun. I burned through a 1/4 tank of gas before returning it.
@@gbinman before getting my Connie I had a z1000, I did not want to give up the performance of the z but wanted better long distance comfort the Connie gave me that. I also ride a twin, they are totally different rides. The Connie is on the edge of the Superbike class performance wise, does 1/4 mile in under 11 seconds and tops out at around 170 mph with the electronic governor disabled. Depends on the dealer on the test rides many have days set aside for that.
Hello, I am French and I also own a GTR 1400 concours from 2010. Superb bike. I have already installed the crash bars for the front. Could you tell me where I can buy from you the rear protectors to protect the suitcases? They are not available in France. It would be great if you could let me know. Thanks in advance. Lawrence
Thanks for watching! We loved our C-14. Here are the crash bars I have seen on a few of the C-14's around here. Hope this helps.
www.t-rex-racing.com/2007-2021-Kawasaki-Concours-14-Luggage-Guards-p/n62-12lgb3.htm
@@jerryandjamie2up thanks a lot for your answer
I know this video is a year old, but did you consider a FJR? I currently own a ‘18 Versys and love it but miss the CC on my ‘13 FJR for LD rides. The C14 had the power but was fail behind the FJR in handling and no CC.
I did consider the FJR. I like the Yamaha but after riding the C-14 I was sold! I rode with a couple of guys on FJR's and I would have to disagree about the handling. Both are heavy machines. The power of the C-14 is intoxicating. My C-14 did a few track days, you had to ride it. But handled well enough. It settled into corners like a pro. CC has never been a big deal for me. Have put on a ton of miles and rarely use it. Thanks for watching. I will say the FJR looks awesome! Saw a blue one this weekend and it was beautiful. Ride safe!
My Versys has CC I just never use it. 25k on the Versys and probably used the CC 3 times. Just not my thing. Thanks again for watching!
Now about picking between the Versys 1000 and the Yamaha FJR 1300 - which I believe 2022 is the last model year?
see the previous answer. It is always a fun time when looking at new machines. Let me know what you decide.
I know the 1400 will eat rear tires but every 4500 miles to replace rear tires and, something just doesn't sound possible unless you do burnouts or lock up your rear wheel very often.
Hey Randy, Thanks for watching the video. I can assure you burnouts and locking up the rear wheel never occurred. The C-14 is a heavy machine, then you throw me 250lbs plus my wife's 120lbs is a ton of weight with a great amount of horsepower. We have done multiple track days and live in an area that lends itself to a lot of spirited twisty road encounters. Not a good equation for rear tires. Even on my Versys I only get around 7-8K on the rear. It's known on all of the boards and around the C-14 community that you will be eating tires at a scary rate! Thanks again for watching.
@@jerryandjamie2up no problem wouldn't thunk 2500 miles would eat a rear tire though Sorry
Sorry 4500 Miles typo
I'm actually on the fence between the Connie and the ZX14R. I'm 60, 6'2",180#... Tall and skinny. I've owned multiple Ninja 1000's. I've owned a Suzuki V-Strom so I know how the Versys sits. Personally, I'm not a fan of the taller seat height. Especially with luggage. And frankly, the last few years of the Ninja 1000 they have made more comfortable, more agile, and they've given it all the toys. I'm surprised in this video you didn't even consider the Ninja over the Versys.
The ZX14R is maybe 80-100lbs lighter than the Connie and that's easy enough to realize. A chain weighs a hell of a lot less than a shaft drive. It doesn't come with a center stand (although you can get one). The bars are lighter, etc... The ZX is still a pig, but then 1,400cc's weighs a few pounds...lol.
I totally get why you like the Versys. The Ninja 1000 engine is bulletproof, smooth as silk, progressive and predictable throttle, and with the Versys maintenance cost is a tad less than the Ninja ( less fairings).
I'm in Florida. I bought the first gen (2011) Ninja 1000. MSRP was $10,999. The only options were heated grips and luggage. I went with the Givi side cases and heated grips. The bike was on sale because as a first year production they actually didn't have much press or interest so I found it online for $8,299!!! With the bags and heated grips I still made it OTD at less than MSRP! That's a no-brainer! I put 30,000 miles on it before I even did a valve adjustment!
So yeah, the Versys by default is a great bike.
Have you ever compared the ZX14R to the Connie?
Thanks for watching the video. I made the comparison between the C14 and the Versys because I have owned both machines. I like the Ninja 1000 and if I were doing a lot of solo riding, I am sure that is one of the bikes I would look into. The price is great and the motor is awesome. I have ridden the Ninja 1000 and was very impressed. I also rode the KTM 1290 GT and that is an awesome machine as well.
I have never been fan of the ZX14. Big and powerful, just does not do much for me. Thanks again for watching!
I’ve owned both the 2013 ZX-14R (called ZZR1400 in Europe) and now the 2013 Concours 14. I owned the 14R when I lived in Germany and loved, loved, loved it. I’ve ridden many mountain passes in Austria and gone to the race track with it. You cannot go wrong with the 14R. That said, standard driving speed for me in Germany was 200 km/hr. At that speed the wind holds you up and reduces the weight on your wrists. Driving slower speeds here in the USA, that might be an issue. When I moved back to Florida, I bought a Concours 14 as an attempt to slow down and ride in a more relaxed position. That is a success. That said, I still dream about owning a ZX-14R again, but I’m not getting any younger…
Hello Jerry i am looking for a newer used tourer for myself and my daughter, (wife not a motorcycle fan). Atm is have a honda vfr 800fi getting a tad old now so i looking for newer machine.I was looking at both of these bikes and the z1000sx tourer thanks for the input.
I love the z1000 and if I were a solo rider that might be the bike I owned, but for two up sport touring the Big Versys is the perfect fit. Thanks for watching!
Do you get any buffeting on the Versys? I had a Tiger 1050 with a similar riding position and the buffeting was horrible. I ended up going to the Connie because of that...
I changed out the windscreen because Jamie (my pillion) had bad buffeting. It has cured that, but as a rider never experienced with either. I loved the electronic wind shield on the C-14.
Really enjoyed your review. I love my '09 Versys 650 and am looking at an '05 Concours 1000 as an inexpensive way into sport tourers for longer trips. Any thoughts on the capabilities of these two for longer rides, highway miles, and twisties?
Concours 1000 is a beast. Top heavy, especially with full tank of fuel, but you get used to it. Plenty of power. 3500rpm at 60mph in 6th gear.
0 to 60 in 3.5 seconds. Bulletproof engine.
Super roomy even 2 up. Super weather protection though can get hot behind fairing in summer.
400km plus per tank of gas. 28.5 litre tank
Suspension a bit soft but comfy. Brakes are adequate.
Bike does everything well but nothing great.
Great bikes that can be found on the cheap.
I recommend highly.
We rode a 2005 connie and it was a great two up machine. The C-14 is awesome in that role, just so damn big! It is fast and fun to ride. We realy enjoy the Versys 1000 for our sport touring needs. I would own another C-14. Love the look and power of the bike. The 650 vereys is probably one of the best bikes ever made and a ton of fun. for solo twistie rides it would be hard to beat. Thanks for watching!
Agree 100%
Goood video. I own a 2004 Kawasaki c10. With 75k miles. Like your comments on c14. You kind of went my fears of heavy c14. I would like to buy new c10 with modern up grades if they still make it. I don’t tour like y’all do. Daily ride from Sachse to Dallas. Any thoughts on 2021 ninja 1000 sx.
We used to live in Plano, sure don't miss that commute in the Dallas Metromess.. haha If I were doing solo touring the 1000 SX would be my bike of choice. It is a great machine.
Concours is heavy when it takes a dirt nap.
I feel your pain.. it makes for a good story haha! Ride safe brother!
The idea is not to let it have a nap LOL
Hey Jerry, good to see review on the those two bikes. I actually own both the Versys 2019 & Concours 2009 as well as a 2001 Hayabusa. I couldn’t agree with you more about your option on the two bikes. I live in Spokane Wa., and ride a lot between here and Montana, all back roads. By far the Versys is the perfect all around bike. Ironic i was born in Ark., as well. I’ll continue to follow you on facebook. Good review.
Thank you for watching. We do appreciate it!
Hello Jerry love the videos. I had a couple of ?'s for you about the versys . I'm also a taller guy knees are in ok shape. How is the riding position with your legs? Also how good does the windscreen work for you?
The riding position is one of the huge positives of the Versys. I am 6'2 and it is a great riding position. I have done many 700-800 mile days with no issues. The windscreen is great and offers more coverage than the stock screen. Thanks for watching!
I can’t believe the C14 still lacks cruise control.
It really bugs some folks, was never a big deal for me.
@@jerryandjamie2up If you are over 60 and ride 400+ mile days, it is very, very nice.
@@LTVoyager I am 58 and ride many 500+ days. I guess I just don't use it enough. Thanks for responding
@@jerryandjamie2up I use cruise often, mainly when I have to travel the interstates, but even on the two lane roads I prefer, it is nice to give the wrist a rest every so often.
There's no bad choice here.Ride them both on an extended ride and see which one grabs ya.
That is so truth! Thanks for watching!
Very informative. I appreciate it. thx!
Glad it was helpful!
How come you didn’t mention the gold wing when talking about Honda… that completely ignores the original, the god king of all touring bikes…. How ? & more importantly Why would you completely ignore the GoldWing, unless it’s because the touring bike as we know it was invented by the American consumers using the Honda 750four GoldWing, and a WindJammer faring, then windjammer built cargo boxes along with allot of other companies and Honda took notice and started building the factory GoldWing,,,,that we now see. I don’t own one nor have I ridden one, but that doesn’t mean I don’t give it the respect it deserves…
I love the Goldwing, but to me, it is not a sport touring machine. Thank you for watching.
@@jerryandjamie2up
you bet, I can see where your coming from, it doesn’t look the part, but IMO it does have good performance, like I said before I’ve not ridden the GW, but I have ridden my ex’s-dads 99,(I think) Valkyrie, about 25 years ago and was thourouly impressed by it, however, given that; “ the Valkyrie is merely a Gold Wing in a bikini“ by comparison, would make my opinion on the matter mute…I have many friends that swear by their longevity and their performance, & are after me to make the plunge, but a destroyed & unstable knee has always kept me at bay especially since I’m over 50 and it balks at just holding my weight at times… but as for the GW a buddy of mine put it in perspective with his ever so southern charm, “she’s a big girl, but she moves like a ballerina” ( the bikini comparison was his too)...
My response “maybe so, but I can’t hold up a falling ballerina either”… lol
That being said, I do enjoy your channel, keep up the great work.
From what I understand also the Concours never had cruise control. for a touring bike? seriously!! Would rather go Versys
That was an issue. I did not care as I usually never use cruise, but I know it turned some riders off. Thank you for watching!
mmm comparaison between sport touring and adventure bike ! missing some part its very different bike !
Actually calling a Versys an adventure bike is a stretch. IMHO... Not very off road worthy. Fits the sport touring mode. Ninja 1000 motor in an upright riding. position.
@@jerryandjamie2up yeah but its a fammily of adventure bike .. Wich class you place this bike ? And i understand your point
It's all symantics I guess. Heck I just want to get on any two wheel machine and ride..well not any haha but that is another topic of discussion.n
@@jerryandjamie2up ahaha yeah but i just bought a concour 1400 i was on a ninja 650 ! :P bit different , i saw the versys but mmm little bit to lightweight for me ! im 210 pound and 6ft 1 :D
@@GuiGuIXOx That is why we all have choices. I am 6'2 250 and the C-14 was becoming a beast to move around. I wanted something a little less hefty. haha Plus riding here in Arkansas, the lighter weight, wider bars are a tad more conducive for all of the twisty roads here in the Ozarks. You will love the c-14 be safe and Let's Ride!
yeha both fantastic machines. It comes down to the personal preference.Too bad they dropped this platform.
I agree. Thank you for watching!
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