Remember kids, in a post apocalyptic world, your worse enemy is not the one standing on your opposite side, but most likely the one who pretends to be your allies.
I think it's possible. When Red Shoes talked about saving humanity, that struck me as odd because she's essentially supposed to be this evil mad scientist type--but she clearly had this tormented, warped sense of desperately wanting to save humanity by joining the other side. I think there's more to Red Shoes' story that will probably make her a sympathetic character, by righting the ship and pulling on commanders' heart strings
@@sialiasialis. It's the classic case of "the road to hell is paved with good intentions". She sought an end goal of humanity not needing to fight the Raptures, but became too obsessed with her goal that she didn't pay close enough attention to the way things were going and how against her goal her actions were taking things. She only saw the progress of corruption and how it *could* lead to her ideal, not what it was actively doing and how much it was destroying in the process.
@@TheGamingDavester Not to mention her plan was riddled with holes. Even assuming the best case scenario, many women would rather die than willingly turn into Nikkes just to be corrupted, and men outright can't turn into Nikkes, Red Shoes also was intentionally ignoring all the evidence that corruption doesn't make you suddenly become a Rapture but outright destroys your personality and has some foreign entity take control, as all the Nikkes who killed themselves after she experimented with them showed. Her plan was incredibly poorly thought out and its execution was even worse. She wasn't doing it for humanity, she was doing it because she wanted to. And she had to chose the moment in time where we could have turned the war on the Raptures. She didn't care about anything but herself and her sick ideas.
@@Lightstation_I would say the dorothy one was the hardest blow... SW maybe went throught several mind switches, but never tryed to attemp suicide, Dorothy couldn't bear it anymore
@@Lightstation_ Cindy's hits me way harder honestly. This was a girl whose dream was to become just like her idols and save humanity alongside them, and she worked really hard to reach her goals, and just when she was about to finally reach that dream of hers... it was crushed into pieces. All her hard work went to waste when her body got stolen by the corruption, and all she could do was helplessly watch behind a mirror as this "imposter" fought for the raptures instead, killing humans and Nikkes and made everything worse overall for the people she wanted to help. She was even forced to watch "herself" as she started to beat her friends to death, twice even. instead of becoming a savior, she was now branded as a traitor simply because of an incident that was not her fault, but everyone blamed her for it anyways even though there was really nothing else she could do during that time even after she regained her senses, she still viewed herself as a monster and a traitor because that's how everyone saw her as. If it weren't for Abe, she most likely wouldn't come to terms with what happened and probably would've taken her own life when she ran off
as someone on reddit said " if red shoes had realised she could make corruption into a weapon againt the raptures, making a virus that could shut down the raptures or making them friendly, this could have all been prevented"
Interesting idea in concept, until u realize this wouldn't satisfy her desire for power. Think about it like this; What would humanity go back to after defeating the raptures? Would they stay the same like nothing happend? How long would our fame glory last before we are forgoten in history? All these questions were most likely in her head when she was still human. It was in realizing that her desire for unification that she believed it WAS WORTH EVERY SACRIFICE TO ACHIEVE IT. The TLDR of this she wanted a religion that fostered unity with her as the Goddess that leads them in servitude of the Queen. Fortunately, a matryr she created was her own undoing and revealed that her desire didnt align with the Queen's desire.
Red Shoes could fill the bill as the Red Queen of Hearts , With Her corruption tainting the hearts and minds of NIKKEs , Also my theory is that the NIKKE we see take form in the Space Station from the old footage was Grimms model 001 , She failed and killed everyone in the station
It just adds more of the questions. What happened in the space station ? Is it a science experiment when wary or really an alien ? For me I still think this is a man made enemy until proven otherwise.
@@janbantilan4747 I'm thinking more along the lines of Black Ops 3's campaign plot centering around Corvus and the frozen forest as the basis of the Rapture Queen's backstory.
its obvious by now that Raptures are man made horrors beyoned human comprehension and the Queen was the first Nikke the first nikke that when rouge like any other advance AI robot movie turning against their creators... after spending 2 seconds on the interent they decided humanity had to go, or something like that IDK.
@@patricksusulin9335 There has to be something of Alien origin somewhere , there are several things about a NIKKE that humanity doesn't know how it works or it's origin, They just do it , also what is Goddessium ?
Red Shoes is from an Andersen tale, detailing a story of temptation and redemption. Seduced by the vibrant red, a poor girl named Karen fits herself into the shoes. Enraptured by it's beauty, so much that she fails to sing psalms and recite the Lord's Prayer, she's damned by an angel. The shoes are stuck to her feet. She's cursed to dance to her last breath. She dances to an executioner and asks him to cut off her feet, and the shoes trot away with the feet still inside. The executioner fashions her a set of wooden feet and crutches. She cries bitter tears of regret and when Sunday arrives, she makes her way to church... only for the Red Shoes to dance alongside her. Wrought with terror, she turns back to repent. It would be that the girl in the story eventually is forgiven and her soul ascends to Heaven, but Nikke ends the tale here. In game we encounter the Red Shoes as an enemy after they are separated from the body.
Red shoes had it coming for making the majestic and beautiful lady cry. Yet in spite that there is hope thanks to oswald (MVP) and then the commander. There is still a way to unite the old tales once again.
Otto Apocalypse's consequences of his actions are literally the opposite of Red Shoes's consequences of her actions. Otto - Does anything and commits all atrocities for his personal gain, but ended up making Humanity benefit Red Shoes - Does the same for the sake of Humanity but instead of giving benefits, she gaved humanity a "Dark time"-Domino effect. We could further elaborate Otto's and Red Shoes's actions but that'll be too time consuming
You can even argue that Kefka was screwed up by the circumstances. The experiments with magitek drove him crazy and nihilistic way before he could do what he did. Plus he was raised in a militaristic and bloodthirsty empire led by another power hungry nutjob. On the other hand, this fucking woman just woke up one day and decided to hand humanity's strongest weapon to the Raptures on a silver platter at a point in the war when we had genuine chances to fight back. Not only that, to reach that point she resorted to inhuman experimentation, every day, fully aware of what she was doing and how others might see it as crazy, because if fucking was, blinded by her own hubris. Kefka kinda has excuses, she doesn't.
@@justpassingbye The major difference is that Otto knew EXACTALLY what he was, he wasn't deluded into believing himself to be the hero nor was he preaching about "the greater good". Everything he did was for selfish reasons and any help it gave Humanity was a simple bi-product, he never thought otherwise. it's subtle but it's interesting how close the 2 lanes manage to be. honestly I do kinda hope Red Shoes "comes back" in some way because with some time to properly flesh her out like Otto she could be a big one. It's refreshing to get a "modern" antagonist who does evil purely because they believe they're right in doing so and not because "they were controlled by evil cosmic forces" etc...Who also has the actual feats to back themselves up.
I'd be more worried about Einkk then Enikk. Her Sim room voice lines, the connection with the MOG mini game the appearance of her on the Coin Rush casino machine. She's clearly watching everything from the Sim Room and knows her purpose is lost if the Raptures are defeated.
Perhaps there will be a plan for repurposal of the Ark and its Facilities. Reclamation of the Surface will demand absolute defeat, aka externination, of the Rsptures unless either Raptilion's living among raptures get refined and thus Humans and Raptures learn to live along one another, or Marian's budding Queen status among Raptures and Heretics matures and she manages to wrestle full control of the Rapture ecosystem and guides it to coexistence since she wants to be back with the SKK. And even once it happens, establishing the necessary Infrastructures will take time, even if they repurpose surviving stuff on the surface (Such as still operational Powerplants, Water trearment plants and Industrial Complexes) perhaps a lot of the know how kight have been lost, or at least there would be a gap between starting those again and them getting to actual usable state once more, of which having the Ark to keep operational until self sustainability is reached on the surface. By then, honestly, Enikk and Einkk could be put to new tasks, especially Einkk, who could have the Sim room be gradually retasked to using that vast Computational power for different roles aside Combat Sims.
Well then again without her supervision of the Simulation Room to help NERV and School Circle train to stop Massive Object, the Ark would've been lasered out of existence. Yes I know that all of that was the Eva collab, but it goes to show she isn't THAT malicious, at least towards humanity in general. Also what part of inter-dimensional missile attack gave it away that she's suspicious?
Wasn´t she somewhere declared to be the solution to Enikk running wild? My guess is that that is her primary task, though she now has to wait till something happens. And as she was bored she hijacked the games to have "fun"
You should do a video on the possible origin of Enikk. For those of us who played the mini-game during the first Anniversary, Enikk actually showed up to comment on Snow White's game. It spooked me that she existed then and has been there in the background for this long.
I get the distinct feeling that we haven't seen the last of those now infamous Red Shoes... Which is good cause I low key wanna see em get used by a more deserving Nikke that'll truly shine like a true goddess of victory rather then the devil of corruption that Red Shoes was... Although I think she's still in this deadly battle if corruption is based off her then there's a little of her in every corrupted Nikke...
Remember, her special brand of Corruption was created by copying her NIMPH backup into it, she can pull a Sephiroth and come back. On the upside, something similar happened "naturally" to Red Hood and that's why Rapi has gotten so OP lol, she got literally corrupted by Red Hood hijacking her NIMPH.
@@gigaslave I'm not so sure, her first batch of modified corruption had her personnality data, but did the corruption perfected by the rapture still had it ? And Red Hood didn't came close to corruptiong rapi, it was more of a fusion, remember that rapi's power was in part due to the fact that she had her core and Red Hood's.
@@TheGoat-z7x That's because it wasn't the fully "perfected" version the Raptures had been dishing out, it was a heavily fine-tuned and modifed version of Red Shoes' making that she injected herself. It's why Cinderella wasn't as repetitive in her actions or words spoken as other Nikke's affected by the upgraded corruption did. It's also the same reason Red Hood wasn't affected the same way - Ultra was likely one of Red Shoes' guinea pigs that had a modified but "unperfected" version of corruption that still made her lockup and become comatose for a long time, but didn't make her go full-on traitor to humanity like Cinderella did as Aanchiro.
"They said when I become a Nikke, I could become whatever I wanted. So I decided to become a problem" - Red Shoes problem. I think of her like a Shockwave or FGO Kiara. Nobody matters, but the final objective. Obession leads to insanity, which leads obscenity. Making the mother whale of all omlette cummander. Can't fret over every nikke And if Modernia is anything to go by, and certain journals about the mother whale. She might actually have be right. However living in harmony was probably never the objective at the end point. I love her. But that final message is just so off to me. A giant F you, beyond petty. Its surprisingly lucid for her. Idk, didn't get jealously from RS. More that she saw Cind as the best of them, and was facinated the raptures also saw that to. So deluded she thought that was communication.
The moment she said it was her I screamed and I quote " dammmmmm yooooouuuuu reddddd shhhoooooose eeeeee " so loud that I think my neighbors thought i was insane 😂
Basically, Red Shoes is the Lorgar Aurelian of Nikke Edit: I have been told by my battle brothers that Red Shoes is the equivalent of Erebus. I agree with their statement.
If Red Shoes shows up again and hasn't changed her thought process. She'll be a villain. Perhaps she could be Sixo. Or if she shows up again and has to face the consequences of her own actions. She'll still not be redeemable as far as I can tell. Even if she dies trying.
Considering the case of Dorothy and her intentions . . . you know there has to be a Red Shoes, or rather "ruby slippers" connection later in the story.
The scene where Snow White cries like that when Red Hood left broke me, it was so emotionally loaded and seeing Smol White crying and screaming in pain like that was so painful to watch, probably part of the reason why Red Ash is my fav event. Also, Red Shoes, fuck you, your actions caused incalculable amounts of suffering to countless people.
Red Hood's corruption:high level performance output/optimized battle efficiency/maximized skill output SE:physical relapse due to utilization of the corruption in battle which leads to internal system blackouts Cinderella's corruption:same attributes as Red Hood's but the update to it might prove to be dangerous the code can manifest itself as an new user taking control of the model with the intent of turning against mankind and other fellow Nikke
Here is my summary of the stupid plan Red Shoes came up with. Yes let’s side with the creatures that wiped out most of humanity by turning the Nikke’s onto their side that will go over well
There is a theory about the Rapter queen. In one of the lost relics, it was said that the AI is called Eve and that she is located on the space station. We find the queen in the compartment with computers and servers. Well, regarding 001, if you remember, the chatterbox has an incredibly beautiful creation named Marian, who had the number 002. In short, they are all nothing more than vessels for the queen.
My biggest concern is that Red Shoes was not working alone. Oswald wiped the slate clean to prevent any further failures of this kind. So how come Marian came out of the Ark corrupted, heavily hinted at to be an inside job, and furthermore exams pointing at her body seemingly being made for the purpose of accepting Rapture parts? And now Jien, punishing Yuni by turning her into a Nikke-Rapture hybrid golem.
Enikk made a deal with chatterbox to corrput nikkes and send them out to him on the surface in exchange for him not revealing the arcs location. In regards to marian being compatible with rapture parts: multiple times its been found that nikkes and raptures are closely related. Its one of the ongoing mysteries theyre setting up.
We know why marian came out of the ark corrupted, it was because of the deal between enikk and chatterbox. But that leave questions such as if he found out the ark location by himself or if somebody bring him there, what is he (being able to speak is unique to heretic and he can evolve, ....) ; and Yuni's case make me worry enikk gave jien either the corruption code or some information to start experimenting on nikke-rapture fusion in an attempt to reinforce the ark.
Oswald only wiped information relating to the Goddess Squad and the Fairy Tale generation so that there would be no lingering data about how the Goddesses failed to breach the Lift or how Fairy Tale's strongest member became the main reason humanity had to scurry down underground. It's to create a better "beginning" for the Goddesses and Fairy Tale generation when humanity begins reclaiming the surface again, a beginning not followed by haunting records but a clean slate that can be built upon through their future contributions. And Marian being corrupted is due to Enikk's pact with Chatterbox. In exchange for safety from countless hoards of raptures, Chatterbox gets a free shipment full of corrupted Nikkes sent straight to him regularly, for experimental purposes. Marian was one of those unfortunate Nikkes.
I'm really SUS of the VTC right now, we already know that despite not naming anyone helping her with the corruption research specifically, she still got inside help in getting her hands on her personality data (which she then killed all of them to not leave any traces), I think although not involved in this research, the VTC was still running some shady stuff behind the scenes
This only proves thst under the hard surface of the story, a bunch of rot hides... And we're only starting to really peel away at the layers of vileness... We got a lot of responses in this even, even more than we thought we would... But it still leaves a lot of things for the future. And it only makes more more excited to discover them. Hehe.
the obssession over Cinderella : Corruption-a completely advanced Nikke developed by humanity to triumph against us Raptures how wonderful if I can turn it against them it'll be so glorious our conquest will be fulfilled by her RedShoes-grrrr.....The data they consumed from me,and chose to pick her over me even at this scheme of mine, it chosen her over me damn this I have no choice & no going back from this.....
When you mentioned if RS was somehow alive in modern day Nikke and nobody would hesitate to put a bullet between her eyes I couldn't agree more. Especially now how Cinderella and Abe have remained together as a duo. I know friends have thrown out theories about Nihilister being heretic RS. Adding onto this comment, I wonder if that's the reason why RS was smiling when fighting Anachiro. What if she was admiring her creation up close knowing this is how everything was turning out the way she wanted?
I really cannot see nihilister originally being Red Shoes. the change in appearance is way too much, as well as their goals being way too different. Nihilister likes destroying things, and wants to be the most powerful there is to the point where she even wants to fight the queen herself, while Red shoes wants to unify everything and coexist with the Raptures
@@roxasfrost3593 that's what conflicted me when my friend threw the theory out. All he was going off was appearance considering how both RS and Nihilister are heavily modified at their legs though key difference is RS was a melee Nikke and well Nihilister uses Cannons
@@ezpadarozaazul6813 yea exactly. Red Shoes' weapon did run off to the raptures as well, so if she really was Nihilister, she still would be using those weapons and possibly upgraded it
When the reveal came, I already had a vague understanding that it would be her. But hearing her say that she developed corruption willingly, made my blood boil. Reading the corruption reports, the many MP Nikkes used for her experiments, the suffering of all those after Cinderella. The worst part is, we actually had a chance to win. Cinderella alone nearly won against the Queen, imagine if Goddess Squad was beside her. Should RS return, I will see to it personally that she feels the full weight and ramifications of her sin. Who knows, maybe we can call in a favor from Jien. The good ol’ Yuni treatment…
@ What RS wants is to become a Heretic, coexisting with the raptures. If she were given the Yuni treatment, though she may be fused with rapture parts(doesn’t have to be just the legs necessarily), she would have to serve the CG’s interest under threat of termination. What most likely would happen though if she were alive and captive, the CG would just terminate her on the spot due to her existence as a 2nd-gen Grimms model.
*If* by some chance Red Shoes managed to offload a copy of herself somehow and we encounter her down the road? I hope that if the Tales Squad isn't the ones to put her down for good as a group, that it's either the remnants of the Goddess Squad as penance for what happened to Red Hood, Pinne, and Liliweiss, or by the Counters and/or Marian herself if not Cinderella and possibly the Old Tales being also involved dealing the final blow. Hell, I'd be satisfied if it was Abe/Grave dealing the final blow seeing as she "made" Red Shoes as a Nikke after she willingly gave herself up to the conversion program back in the day.
If RS return, I'm actually going to go Asura's wrath on her, making her suffer even if she regenerates from it, making it her own personal living hell until she begs for death
Rad Shoes is basically Saren from Mass Effect. She is gone mad on wrong idea thinking that it may resolve conflict so raptures gladly used her same as reapers from Mass Effect used the turian
Comparing Red Shoes to Saren is stretching it a bit. When it comes to Saren, he was pretty much right, because the strongest forces who were supposed to be fighting against the Reapers kept f*cking things up... -The Krogan wanted to continue waging war against anything that moved. -The Salarians withheld their resources unless the Krogan maintained their status as a dying race. -The Asari deliberately hid critical Prothean technology (that was supposed to be shared) so they could claim the position as the apex species. -Whether the Geth worshiped the Reapers or not was based on a math equation... -Don't even get me started on Citadel Council... (Both official and replacement) The only reason Saren's plan failed was because (Just like Red Shoes) the Reapers didn't care about him. Even towards other machines, the reapers saw themselves as superior. Which is why the Reapers treated the Heretic-Geth as expendable soldiers. Shepard perfected Saren's plan by creating techno-organic life and placing them on equal status with the reapers, so they have no choice but to leave organic and synthetic life alone.
I think Red Shoes is probably niw a Heretic if she survived or if the Raptures found her. Also its not the first time the theme of unification is present. Look at Queen and also at the next Queen, Marian (I also think Marian is special, like shes related to the Queen or Lilith. She has to be powerful too because she became a Heretic and even the future Queen.). Half Rapture, half Nikke/human. Maybe Queen had this idea if unifying everything too. I think its gonna be very important in the story at some point.
Well, if we follow the fairy tale of Red Shoes, at the end, the girl ask for forgiveness and it is granted. If we do follow THAT story, probably Red Shoes will be redeemed in some way. How? I have no idea. And am I the only one who thinks its weird Nihilister is always mentioned having clashed with Abe and the volcano with the pictures of Red Shoes in the map before the whole world is turned into white?
I'm going to go out on a limb and say we never 'knew' the real Red Shoes. If she was the mad scientist type that we believe her to be, then she was the first person she experimented corruption on, all of them likely using her personality code, which is why she's able to be a wolf in sheep's clothing so effectively. Where the real Red Shoes began and where her corrupted self ends is likely a blur. To be so in sync with her corruption, or "functionally corrupted", shows how truly far gone she was. She probably had legitimate hopes and aspirations for saving humanity, and those dreams were likely twisted and perverted the moment she corrupted herself. There's really no other good explanation for why she has such twisted ideals of how to best save humanity by joining the raptures. It proves that she's always wanted to save humanity and wanted the power to do it, no matter the cost, even if it meant singularity and legion
@@TheGoat-z7x It's possible! I think it would be a missed opportunity to make Red Shoes an interesting character to sympathize with if her motives were meant for this from the very start, instead of having bright-eyed, honest and good ideals for saving humanity, but between her research and the seemingly hopeless circumstances of infinite raptures, she may have just lost the plot, losing sight of her original ideals and surrendered herself to the idea of "if you can't beat them, join them"
I don't believe Red Hood's version of Corruption was the same that Cinderella dealt with. Red Hood was corrupted before Cindy, by Ultra, and in Rapunzel's new bond story we learn that there were effectively 2 versions of the corruption. The first (What they originally encountered) just paralysed the Nikke or made them unresponsive. Red Hood probably had the first iteration of it, it's important to note that Red Hood was fighting off Corruption for a long time. It was that desire to find the cure of Red Hoods' corruption that prompted Rapunzel's interest in it in the first place, how to resolve, and she went to Abe and Red Shoes who were two of the top minds of VTC. Unknowingly, it was probably Rapunzel supplying Red Shoes with these corrupted Nikke's that we know are to be held in her private research lab. From those corrupted, Nikke's is when Red Shoes stumbled on the corruption and how it affected the NIMPH. Red Shoes creates a new strand of the virus, corruption code, and sends it off via one of the corrupted Nikke's being let go. Then a Rapture assembled that Nikke, acquiring the code, and then that new strand of the code was assimilated by the Queen and further enhanced. Perhaps you could make the comparison to how pathogens are passed by in humans when they consume tainted beef, other forms of meat, that the Nikke was brought to the lift to be used as spare parts for the Raptures. I think it's important to note WHY the first corruption code froze the nikkes. Probably easier to find a stun locked machine, acquire it, bring it back to the nest (The Lift) to be de-assembled for Rapture parts. Remember, before this point heretics did not exist. The rapture lacked the ability to take the nikke, corrupt, to have them become assets; they existed solely to be consumed or used for additional raptures. Looking at Red Shoes, how the Raptures were only interested in her weaponry goes to show that they initially were only interested in materials. I think Red Shoes couldn't become a Heretic because she was corrupted with the initial batch rather than the new, upgraded one. In the same way Red Hood was able to fight off the initial strand, via will power, I think the same could be said of Red Shoes whose desire/will to complete her mission is what prevented her full corruption. Then in the timeline we have the new batch of the virus, hand-delivered by Rapunzel, in her pursuit of trying to figure out the corruption. Once Red Shoes acquired the new variant, that the Raptures perfected, she began testing it further. One plot hole that needs to be addressed, that people are overlooking, Oswald says in Red Shoe's Lab there were also Rapture's stripped of their armour that emitted the code etc. Red Shoes wasn't deployed outside the facility, the second generation grim models never had real combat, so how did she acquire these Raptures? Rapunzel didn't deliver those, she delivered corrupted Nikke. Also, for the timeline sake, Red Shoes would have had to have those Raptures PRIOR to the corruption of Cinderella. That's how she learned how to refine the code, implement it, when she ultimately corrupted Cinderella. That means we have another bad actor that: was supplying red shoes with the Raptures, knew of her secret location where she performed these experiments, and could have shared a mutual belief with Red Shoes. I think the possibility of another actor makes sense when we think of what we saw with the Queen. 001, As in like a test subject. If the Queen was a man made creation, who made her? It's not Abe, It's not Red Shoes, so who? Mind you those are the top 2 minds of the VTC, but you also have the other government; that later combines with the VTC to become the Central Gov. I think the initial scientist or mind that made the queen (Assuming that's what happened) actually helped Red Shoes in her pursuit. Maybe because from what we saw of the Queen, she's a torso and immobile; stuck, likely on the Satellite connected to the lift. Maybe by assisting Red Shoe's Pursuit's, they hoped to find a way to transfer the mind/consciousness of the Queen into a new body/form? Do we know of anyone else in the story who has shown to do something similar to that? Oh, that's right. Enikk, who injected the corruption into Marian. Who conveniently is to become the next "Queen", with the 002 on her skin from the Last Kingdom Event? It would not shock me if it's revealed that Enikk is more than an AI. Think how AI works, you feed it information. What if Enikk is an AI whose information was compiled from the original mind that made the first queen? A way of becoming a Nikke, without becoming a Nikke, to continue a scientist's goal from beyond the grave? All in their push for the furthered evolution of the Human Race? Also, isn't it funny that Chatterbox had direct ties with Enikk? Chatterbox is the one that reveals Modernia's true role as the new Queen. We assumed, because Enikk told us, that she fed Chatterbox Nikke's for the Ark's "survival" but what if Chatterbox is one of her creations or at the very least one of her chess pieces? Also Chatterbox was protective of Modernia when corrupted, she even went as far as to call him her Ally. Just some random thoughts.
Red shoes: explains that she implanted the corruption into Cinderella. Cinderella: what... Red shoes: Now, I know that sounds bad... Cinderella: Proceeds to shoot Red Shoes multiple times furiously.
I don't believe THIS Red Shoes is redeemable, because she not only doesn't want to be redeemed, but is quite literally the original Heretic, and the only willing heretic. She was totally insane, believing that total annihilation was somehow unity. The only way I could see a version of Red Shoes being redeemed, is if we encountered a version of Red Shoes who was not a Heretic, like an AU version of her. Even villains like Nihilister, or Crow, feel more redeemable then Red Shoes. At least with Cinderella it actually felt like she was being forced to do things, Red Shoes did everything willingly. So the only way to redeem her would be for a version of her that simply "Isn't" the Heretic we saw to appear. And even then, I'm not sure I'd want her to be redeemed. I'd rather her be an eternal villain.
The second half was a good and very sad story. After finding out who was responsible for the corruption red shoes is the most hated character in the game, and I have a theory as well I think Enikk is red shoes but as a backup program so she can continue her research in corruption
bro, it just came out to my mind, what if one of the test raptures of red shoes with her corruption that she meant to evolve and only one succeeded, and it's raptillon, now raptillon is doing his job changing the raptures he encounters just like mother whale and change into like helping the humans instead the raptures. Sorry for my English for me I'll stay neutral to red shoes right now, we still don't know what happen to his own lab, what was she thinking while making those corruption and spread to the raptures and thinking that it well evolved into something she's never even know what will happen to the rapture with her own corruption.
Umm... I guess Raptilion is just a normal human, that is using a Raptures like armor (The name of the armor is RaptoCamo, if I'm not mistaken). Even at 1 point, Commander using RaptoCamo too, to Test how they can communicate with Raptures. Don't forget when we met with him again in the Main Story, he was really dehydrated... the things that can't happen to Raptures.
I think the Raptures would have been able to perfect the corruption on their own. However, it would have taken longer. Red shoes sped up the process ensuring the retreat of humanity.
One could also say that Red Shoes accidentally saved humanity. If she did not corrupt Cinderella then the Goddess Squad would have gotten on the lift and been blasted by the Queen, just like we see in the Old Tales event. Then everything would have played out basically the same just minus the Goddess Squad.
Who's to say the Queen didn't reinforce her security and herself after she learned that the Goddess squad was coming for her? Plus, instead of one overpowered Nikke (Cinderella) and three specialists (Hansel, Gretel and Little Mermaid), we would have had three overpowered Nikkes (Cinderella, Red Hood and Liliweiss), two all around powerhouses (Dorothy and Scarlet) and two specialists (Rapunzel and Snow White), the latter who could have seen the trap coming and had most likely prepared countermeasures for a lot of scenarios. One of the reasons why Cinderella's group went as badly as it did is because it happened without preparation and without support. That was not the case with the Goddess squad who had the support of literally all of humanity at the time, back when their military strength still hadn't been fully decimated by the Raptures. And even still in the end, Cinderella did manage to neutralize the Queen in space. The reason why we're in this mess, is most likely that the Raptures exploited both Red Shoes' corruption (her fault), and the fact that Liliweiss was exhausted after fending off Raptures during the evacuation and the Ark's sealing (also ultimately a result of Red Shoes turning Cinderella against mankind) to kill Liliweiss, steal her head and repurpose it as a new Rapture Queen. Not to mention the very fact that Red Shoes created the current corruption also turned Nikkes from heroines to objects of fear and helped justify the current discriminatory hierarchy where they barely have human rights. So yes, the world would still have been a better place without Red Shoes. At the very least it would have been harder to justify the current system where they send dumbasses to die in the surface and have young women turned into Nikkes just to either become slaves to the Central Government, die meaninglessly under some stupid commander or get corrupted with all the trauma it implies.
Given the initial beating we saw Cinderella giving the Queen before she sucker punched her off the station, I don't see any reason that the combined efforts of the Goddess Squad alongside Cinderella couldn't have roasted her to bits. Especially when we know that Liliweiss is a one-woman army in her own right who in many ways surpasses the rest of the Goddesses all on her own. It wouldn't have been a contest, and that's why Cinderella's conversion into Anachiro screwed things up so badly.
@@TheGamingDavester To me it looked like the Queen wasn't even trying. She very slowly using 1 finger to attack. Then after Cinderella got off a good hit, that still didn't appear to cause any real damage, the Queen then got serious and knock Cinderella outta the space station. And I think that the reason why the Queen wasn't trying in the beginning was that the Corruption made Cinderella appear as an ally to her. Also my other point was that the Queen would have attempted to kill everyone while they were in the lift. Lastly, Cinderella's part of the mission was just to create a path for the Goddess Squad to get to the lift. There is no indication that she would join them in the attack on the Queen.
Red Shoes cannot be redeemed, BUT, there's a possibility of having a playable Red Shoes. Since she copied her personality, we may have someone who's created copies of Red Shoes: cloned brains into replica bodies. One newly created clone gets exposed to the commander's blood, destroying her NIMPH and causing her personality to nearly become a tabula rasa. Aprehended by the main cast (new liberation unit?), she's scrutinized, specially by Cinderella, to be sure that she's not Red Shoes anymore. And there you have it: a playable Red Shoes.
Shift Up Employee #1: Hey, are we going to give Crow a redemption arc? Shift Up Employee #2: Hell yeah! We can't let such a great character design go to waste. Shift Up Employee #1: But... Doesn't everyone really hate Crow? Shift Up Employee #2: Hmm... You're right... I know! Let's give them someone they'll hate so much more that Crow will seems tame in comparison. Shift Up Employee #1: You wouldn't...
4:37-the audacity.well you throw away your humanity...yet you are not enough for them all the work you've done only to be valued lesser by the Raptures you serve you wish to be the one to spread to humanity the capacity of Raptures for diplomatic coexistence yet not qualifying enough to sent that very message it lied and made you view yourself as not enough
In another way red shoes could have been like ether. Someone who's morales are questionable but wants to better mankind though science but went the wrong path
theres always that one psycho in an apocalyptic survivor group that literally thought coexisting with the devil is a good idea in the expenese of their allies.
I new she something was off about red shoes form the moment I saw her from being envious of Cinderella. Red shoes being crazy before becoming a nikke having Cinderella pictures everywhere
I liked to think red shoes had some good intentions but with the downward spiral of pain that happened after it's all so unforgivable even tho I want to see the good in her I can't forgive the only fitting punishment she can get is to spend the rest of her life fixing her mistake knowing she won't ever be forgiven for what she did
I was concerned with Ennik until the part in the story where she basically recognised that without any checks on her power she could do something that would not benefit the Ark, so she gave a commander a way to neutralise her with the help of her sister Einnk. Extending her trust towards the commander to keep an eye on her and ensure she does not go astray.
There's one question that I want answered; what the hell is Vapaus? We know it kills about 98% of Nikke's nanomachines but what exactly is it and why does the Commander have it?
I mean I'm pretty sure no one thinks red shoes is actually redeemable. You could argue she's not entirely evil and at least had somewhat of a decent motive but like there's no redeeming her. I'm quite curious on how she came this unification conclusion in the first place so hopefully if or when she gets a unit we get more lore on that. W video as always
I don't mind her creating the corruption. Without her, we couldnt see the possibility where rapture queen can even side with humanity. Which is out of Red shoes' imagination, context: Modernia during Kingdoms
I must congratulate Red Shoes on surpassing Crow in terms of levels of hatred from the community, at the very least, because of her insanity we have the lovely Heritics Nikkes like Modernia, and Nihilister.
Even if she is irredeemable. I still want her. Very sad to see she went like she did. I wanted to learn more about her. I'll keep my hand out if she wants to take it.
The o nly thing i'm slightly not aware of is how long ago did she push out the Code to the raptures before she perfected it. Because Red hood was already corrupted before the Lift fight and had been for a while. She also had a version of the code that allowed her to fight it almost like the early stages of the corruption, So Red Hood can't have been corrupted with the same Strain that Red Shoes used for Cindy. Unless She has had this Perfected code in her back pocket for a long time and was just waiting for the right moment to inject Cindy with it.
I think Red Hood had a somehow improved version of the OG corruption, because her symptoms pointed to her shutting down instead of becoming a heretic, but I think because of Anachiro that's what caused them to be afraid of her becoming one and issued the mercy kill policy
Red Hood was infected by an Ultra. Based on the story, the Ultras were the pioneers of corruption. We know that Red Hood got corrupted before Scarlet joined the squad as well. So this is way before Red Shoes let her codes loose. My guess is Red Hood got the natural corruption that evolved slowly over time, either cos the code in the Ultra had evolved to an extent by that point or the corruption code slowly evolved inside her.
i forgot what video i started i thnk it was a dub bond but im happy i found the channel and i was suprised watching a stream of yours old tales story one your my faivroute nikke creator also whose the most evil character in nikke i say red shoes crow is at least a bit understandable shes a b word but her words to have some truth in them
Hi Nikke Community! I want to ask something, some youtuber said that cindy fighting the queen was a lily head but i saw the ending the queen head isn't a lily head, the story old tales begin after the event red ash, after red hood defeated anachiro then it bring to the story old tales when cindy wake up and realize she's not corrupted anymore. Thats bring to the scene that cindy team with abe and her other friends to beat up the queen on space. After being defeted by queen the cindy falling down to earth at the same time lily also killed in the war, the scene where she laydown on the wall and tge meteor come across in the sky. My theory is lily head has been taken by rapture and being corrupted replacing the head of queen after being damage by cindy We know the overzone haopen after the old tales after pilgrim been task to guard until the ark is completed. But the central gov just using them because scare the goddes gonna be another heretic(corrupted) like cindy(anachiro) thats why the locked up the ark and never let the goddess squad come in. Some youtber said that the queen when cindy fighting is lilyweiss but how come? Just think about that its not logic. It is my understanding correct? Sorry about a bad grammar and english writing hope you guys help me explain even more in detail. From what i saw cindy figting its not lily head! Lily is down there fighting rapture with other pilgrim!
@@TheGoat-z7x the queen don't die, but, it looks cindy make destroy the space station, on the hard mode of the event released today, the countdown of Raptures turn from Infinite number, to have Numbers, so apparently the Queen was almost Defeated, but who knows, with everything on the events of the present future, on 100 years, many thing happened xd
Since red shoes was a priest in vtc and she saids she wants to spread her beliefs i wonder if were going to deal with fanatics and rapture cultists within the ark in the future chapters?🤔
1Q- how did RedHood got the Corruption in her A. Experimentation. to study the effect of corruption on a Goddess model B.Combat damage. received the Corruption from a High-Level Type Rapture
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Alternate title: EVERYTHING IS ALL FRAUD SHOES' FAULT
"I worked for Red Shoes, she's a fraud"
red SUS
Technically its the queens fault or whoever made the raptures but Red shoes is to blame for after the queen
I told you abe, she’s a rat
@@ZBrolyedits9501 that bitch's Jordans are CREASED.
Remember kids, in a post apocalyptic world, your worse enemy is not the one standing on your opposite side, but most likely the one who pretends to be your allies.
No amount of memory wipe could make Red Shoes fixable.
"She's irredeemable. She's perfect."
-certain commanders
I think it's possible. When Red Shoes talked about saving humanity, that struck me as odd because she's essentially supposed to be this evil mad scientist type--but she clearly had this tormented, warped sense of desperately wanting to save humanity by joining the other side. I think there's more to Red Shoes' story that will probably make her a sympathetic character, by righting the ship and pulling on commanders' heart strings
@@sialiasialis. It's the classic case of "the road to hell is paved with good intentions". She sought an end goal of humanity not needing to fight the Raptures, but became too obsessed with her goal that she didn't pay close enough attention to the way things were going and how against her goal her actions were taking things. She only saw the progress of corruption and how it *could* lead to her ideal, not what it was actively doing and how much it was destroying in the process.
@@TheGamingDavester Not to mention her plan was riddled with holes. Even assuming the best case scenario, many women would rather die than willingly turn into Nikkes just to be corrupted, and men outright can't turn into Nikkes, Red Shoes also was intentionally ignoring all the evidence that corruption doesn't make you suddenly become a Rapture but outright destroys your personality and has some foreign entity take control, as all the Nikkes who killed themselves after she experimented with them showed.
Her plan was incredibly poorly thought out and its execution was even worse. She wasn't doing it for humanity, she was doing it because she wanted to. And she had to chose the moment in time where we could have turned the war on the Raptures. She didn't care about anything but herself and her sick ideas.
Of all the saddest thing's I've seen in Nikke, Cinderella Crying is the one that hits me the most
I think Dorothy and snow White hit me harder.
@@Lightstation_I would say the dorothy one was the hardest blow... SW maybe went throught several mind switches, but never tryed to attemp suicide, Dorothy couldn't bear it anymore
@@Lightstation_ Cindy's hits me way harder honestly. This was a girl whose dream was to become just like her idols and save humanity alongside them, and she worked really hard to reach her goals, and just when she was about to finally reach that dream of hers...
it was crushed into pieces. All her hard work went to waste when her body got stolen by the corruption, and all she could do was helplessly watch behind a mirror as this "imposter" fought for the raptures instead, killing humans and Nikkes and made everything worse overall for the people she wanted to help. She was even forced to watch "herself" as she started to beat her friends to death, twice even.
instead of becoming a savior, she was now branded as a traitor simply because of an incident that was not her fault, but everyone blamed her for it anyways even though there was really nothing else she could do during that time
even after she regained her senses, she still viewed herself as a monster and a traitor because that's how everyone saw her as. If it weren't for Abe, she most likely wouldn't come to terms with what happened and probably would've taken her own life when she ran off
That scene made me horny.
And with "first page" in the background, i couldn't hold my tears
as someone on reddit said " if red shoes had realised she could make corruption into a weapon againt the raptures, making a virus that could shut down the raptures or making them friendly, this could have all been prevented"
Interesting idea in concept, until u realize this wouldn't satisfy her desire for power.
Think about it like this; What would humanity go back to after defeating the raptures? Would they stay the same like nothing happend? How long would our fame glory last before we are forgoten in history? All these questions were most likely in her head when she was still human. It was in realizing that her desire for unification that she believed it WAS WORTH EVERY SACRIFICE TO ACHIEVE IT.
The TLDR of this she wanted a religion that fostered unity with her as the Goddess that leads them in servitude of the Queen. Fortunately, a matryr she created was her own undoing and revealed that her desire didnt align with the Queen's desire.
Red Shoes could fill the bill as the Red Queen of Hearts , With Her corruption tainting the hearts and minds of NIKKEs , Also my theory is that the NIKKE we see take form in the Space Station from the old footage was Grimms model 001 , She failed and killed everyone in the station
It just adds more of the questions. What happened in the space station ? Is it a science experiment when wary or really an alien ?
For me I still think this is a man made enemy until proven otherwise.
@@janbantilan4747 I'm thinking more along the lines of Black Ops 3's campaign plot centering around Corvus and the frozen forest as the basis of the Rapture Queen's backstory.
its obvious by now that Raptures are man made horrors beyoned human comprehension and the Queen was the first Nikke the first nikke that when rouge like any other advance AI robot movie turning against their creators... after spending 2 seconds on the interent they decided humanity had to go, or something like that IDK.
@@patricksusulin9335 There has to be something of Alien origin somewhere , there are several things about a NIKKE that humanity doesn't know how it works or it's origin, They just do it , also what is Goddessium ?
Red Shoes is from an Andersen tale, detailing a story of temptation and redemption.
Seduced by the vibrant red, a poor girl named Karen fits herself into the shoes. Enraptured by it's beauty, so much that she fails to sing psalms and recite the Lord's Prayer, she's damned by an angel. The shoes are stuck to her feet. She's cursed to dance to her last breath. She dances to an executioner and asks him to cut off her feet, and the shoes trot away with the feet still inside. The executioner fashions her a set of wooden feet and crutches. She cries bitter tears of regret and when Sunday arrives, she makes her way to church... only for the Red Shoes to dance alongside her. Wrought with terror, she turns back to repent.
It would be that the girl in the story eventually is forgiven and her soul ascends to Heaven, but Nikke ends the tale here. In game we encounter the Red Shoes as an enemy after they are separated from the body.
"My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings: Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
That pretty much sums up Red Shoes story.
My beloved Laplace was corrupted because of red shoes...
Not the mirror destroying hero herself 😂
Red shoes had it coming for making the majestic and beautiful lady cry. Yet in spite that there is hope thanks to oswald (MVP) and then the commander. There is still a way to unite the old tales once again.
Not ever since Kefka Palazzo and Otto Apocalypse did we see one individual screw the entire world up so badly with their selfish actions.
Otto Apocalypse ironically also one of the reason the humanity able to fight off Honkai. He isnt enemy nor friend of Humanity
Otto Apocalypse's consequences of his actions are literally the opposite of Red Shoes's consequences of her actions.
Otto - Does anything and commits all atrocities for his personal gain, but ended up making Humanity benefit
Red Shoes - Does the same for the sake of Humanity but instead of giving benefits, she gaved humanity a "Dark time"-Domino effect.
We could further elaborate Otto's and Red Shoes's actions but that'll be too time consuming
Do not put Otto in the same camp as Red Shoes. That is insanely stupid
You can even argue that Kefka was screwed up by the circumstances. The experiments with magitek drove him crazy and nihilistic way before he could do what he did. Plus he was raised in a militaristic and bloodthirsty empire led by another power hungry nutjob.
On the other hand, this fucking woman just woke up one day and decided to hand humanity's strongest weapon to the Raptures on a silver platter at a point in the war when we had genuine chances to fight back. Not only that, to reach that point she resorted to inhuman experimentation, every day, fully aware of what she was doing and how others might see it as crazy, because if fucking was, blinded by her own hubris. Kefka kinda has excuses, she doesn't.
@@justpassingbye The major difference is that Otto knew EXACTALLY what he was, he wasn't deluded into believing himself to be the hero nor was he preaching about "the greater good". Everything he did was for selfish reasons and any help it gave Humanity was a simple bi-product, he never thought otherwise. it's subtle but it's interesting how close the 2 lanes manage to be.
honestly I do kinda hope Red Shoes "comes back" in some way because with some time to properly flesh her out like Otto she could be a big one. It's refreshing to get a "modern" antagonist who does evil purely because they believe they're right in doing so and not because "they were controlled by evil cosmic forces" etc...Who also has the actual feats to back themselves up.
I'd be more worried about Einkk then Enikk.
Her Sim room voice lines, the connection with the MOG mini game the appearance of her on the Coin Rush casino machine.
She's clearly watching everything from the Sim Room and knows her purpose is lost if the Raptures are defeated.
Perhaps there will be a plan for repurposal of the Ark and its Facilities.
Reclamation of the Surface will demand absolute defeat, aka externination, of the Rsptures unless either Raptilion's living among raptures get refined and thus Humans and Raptures learn to live along one another, or Marian's budding Queen status among Raptures and Heretics matures and she manages to wrestle full control of the Rapture ecosystem and guides it to coexistence since she wants to be back with the SKK.
And even once it happens, establishing the necessary Infrastructures will take time, even if they repurpose surviving stuff on the surface (Such as still operational Powerplants, Water trearment plants and Industrial Complexes) perhaps a lot of the know how kight have been lost, or at least there would be a gap between starting those again and them getting to actual usable state once more, of which having the Ark to keep operational until self sustainability is reached on the surface.
By then, honestly, Enikk and Einkk could be put to new tasks, especially Einkk, who could have the Sim room be gradually retasked to using that vast Computational power for different roles aside Combat Sims.
Well then again without her supervision of the Simulation Room to help NERV and School Circle train to stop Massive Object, the Ark would've been lasered out of existence. Yes I know that all of that was the Eva collab, but it goes to show she isn't THAT malicious, at least towards humanity in general.
Also what part of inter-dimensional missile attack gave it away that she's suspicious?
She just wants her own body, Commander can help her find a new purpose too. Maybe a VR room?
Wasn´t she somewhere declared to be the solution to Enikk running wild?
My guess is that that is her primary task, though she now has to wait till something happens. And as she was bored she hijacked the games to have "fun"
@@scipiovp921 Yes, this part of the main story chapters.
You should do a video on the possible origin of Enikk. For those of us who played the mini-game during the first Anniversary, Enikk actually showed up to comment on Snow White's game. It spooked me that she existed then and has been there in the background for this long.
I get the distinct feeling that we haven't seen the last of those now infamous Red Shoes... Which is good cause I low key wanna see em get used by a more deserving Nikke that'll truly shine like a true goddess of victory rather then the devil of corruption that Red Shoes was... Although I think she's still in this deadly battle if corruption is based off her then there's a little of her in every corrupted Nikke...
Remember, her special brand of Corruption was created by copying her NIMPH backup into it, she can pull a Sephiroth and come back.
On the upside, something similar happened "naturally" to Red Hood and that's why Rapi has gotten so OP lol, she got literally corrupted by Red Hood hijacking her NIMPH.
@@gigaslave I'm not so sure, her first batch of modified corruption had her personnality data, but did the corruption perfected by the rapture still had it ? And Red Hood didn't came close to corruptiong rapi, it was more of a fusion, remember that rapi's power was in part due to the fact that she had her core and Red Hood's.
@@vertuo8671 corruption that speaks with Cinderella had the same voice actor as red shoes
@@TheGoat-z7x That's because it wasn't the fully "perfected" version the Raptures had been dishing out, it was a heavily fine-tuned and modifed version of Red Shoes' making that she injected herself. It's why Cinderella wasn't as repetitive in her actions or words spoken as other Nikke's affected by the upgraded corruption did. It's also the same reason Red Hood wasn't affected the same way - Ultra was likely one of Red Shoes' guinea pigs that had a modified but "unperfected" version of corruption that still made her lockup and become comatose for a long time, but didn't make her go full-on traitor to humanity like Cinderella did as Aanchiro.
Red Shoes: Anachiro, I have come to give you this pear.
"They said when I become a Nikke, I could become whatever I wanted. So I decided to become a problem" - Red Shoes problem.
I think of her like a Shockwave or FGO Kiara. Nobody matters, but the final objective. Obession leads to insanity, which leads obscenity. Making the mother whale of all omlette cummander. Can't fret over every nikke
And if Modernia is anything to go by, and certain journals about the mother whale. She might actually have be right. However living in harmony was probably never the objective at the end point. I love her.
But that final message is just so off to me. A giant F you, beyond petty. Its surprisingly lucid for her.
Idk, didn't get jealously from RS. More that she saw Cind as the best of them, and was facinated the raptures also saw that to. So deluded she thought that was communication.
It was obvious but still sad to see the truth unfold. We still have the final cutscene in the hard mode, so who knows what last twist Nikke has
So after Hard Mode Cin can hear Abe in her mirror mindscape in certain places 😭
Abe name dropping Nihilister... not our comrade, a heretic
The moment she said it was her I screamed and I quote " dammmmmm yooooouuuuu reddddd shhhoooooose eeeeee " so loud that I think my neighbors thought i was insane 😂
“CUUUUURSE YOU RED SHOOOEESS! I herby vow, you will rue this day! Behold a true Goddess of Victory and I commander, your fears made flesh!”
"REEED SHOOOEEEEESSS!!!!!!!!" *Scream in Solid Snake*
Basically, Red Shoes is the Lorgar Aurelian of Nikke
Edit: I have been told by my battle brothers that Red Shoes is the equivalent of Erebus. I agree with their statement.
more so erebus, lorgar was just a victim to it much like cinderella
Apparently so but both have a victory in the long run
More like Erubus
Lorgar? She's the Erebus of Nikke! Her actions snowballed the universe into what it currently is.
When I saw Cinderella breakdown the way she did in the thumbnail I started crying as well.
Erebus 40k version of nikke main culprit villain who started everything...
If Red Shoes shows up again and hasn't changed her thought process. She'll be a villain. Perhaps she could be Sixo. Or if she shows up again and has to face the consequences of her own actions. She'll still not be redeemable as far as I can tell. Even if she dies trying.
Considering the case of Dorothy and her intentions . . . you know there has to be a Red Shoes, or rather "ruby slippers" connection later in the story.
The scene where Snow White cries like that when Red Hood left broke me, it was so emotionally loaded and seeing Smol White crying and screaming in pain like that was so painful to watch, probably part of the reason why Red Ash is my fav event.
Also, Red Shoes, fuck you, your actions caused incalculable amounts of suffering to countless people.
"ITS ALL YOUR FAULT"- captain of the pequod ahab
"THE FAULT LIES WITH YOU RED SHOES!!!"
Red Hood's corruption:high level performance output/optimized battle efficiency/maximized
skill output SE:physical relapse due to utilization of the corruption in battle which leads to internal system blackouts
Cinderella's corruption:same attributes as Red Hood's but the update to it might prove to be dangerous the code can manifest itself as an new user taking control of the model
with the intent of turning against mankind and other fellow Nikke
We felt for red shoes in the beginning. Soon as she revealed she was the corruption queen, we said nah. That’s irredeemable
Here is my summary of the stupid plan Red Shoes came up with. Yes let’s side with the creatures that wiped out most of humanity by turning the Nikke’s onto their side that will go over well
Everyone suspected that Red Shoes corrupted Cinderella, but it was even worse than that.
There is a theory about the Rapter queen. In one of the lost relics, it was said that the AI is called Eve and that she is located on the space station. We find the queen in the compartment with computers and servers. Well, regarding 001, if you remember, the chatterbox has an incredibly beautiful creation named Marian, who had the number 002. In short, they are all nothing more than vessels for the queen.
My biggest concern is that Red Shoes was not working alone.
Oswald wiped the slate clean to prevent any further failures of this kind. So how come Marian came out of the Ark corrupted, heavily hinted at to be an inside job, and furthermore exams pointing at her body seemingly being made for the purpose of accepting Rapture parts? And now Jien, punishing Yuni by turning her into a Nikke-Rapture hybrid golem.
Enikk made a deal with chatterbox to corrput nikkes and send them out to him on the surface in exchange for him not revealing the arcs location.
In regards to marian being compatible with rapture parts: multiple times its been found that nikkes and raptures are closely related. Its one of the ongoing mysteries theyre setting up.
We know why marian came out of the ark corrupted, it was because of the deal between enikk and chatterbox. But that leave questions such as if he found out the ark location by himself or if somebody bring him there, what is he (being able to speak is unique to heretic and he can evolve, ....) ; and Yuni's case make me worry enikk gave jien either the corruption code or some information to start experimenting on nikke-rapture fusion in an attempt to reinforce the ark.
Oswald only wiped information relating to the Goddess Squad and the Fairy Tale generation so that there would be no lingering data about how the Goddesses failed to breach the Lift or how Fairy Tale's strongest member became the main reason humanity had to scurry down underground. It's to create a better "beginning" for the Goddesses and Fairy Tale generation when humanity begins reclaiming the surface again, a beginning not followed by haunting records but a clean slate that can be built upon through their future contributions.
And Marian being corrupted is due to Enikk's pact with Chatterbox. In exchange for safety from countless hoards of raptures, Chatterbox gets a free shipment full of corrupted Nikkes sent straight to him regularly, for experimental purposes. Marian was one of those unfortunate Nikkes.
I'm really SUS of the VTC right now, we already know that despite not naming anyone helping her with the corruption research specifically, she still got inside help in getting her hands on her personality data (which she then killed all of them to not leave any traces), I think although not involved in this research, the VTC was still running some shady stuff behind the scenes
Random throught. What if Oswald somehow ended up being related to Chatterbox?
This only proves thst under the hard surface of the story, a bunch of rot hides... And we're only starting to really peel away at the layers of vileness... We got a lot of responses in this even, even more than we thought we would... But it still leaves a lot of things for the future. And it only makes more more excited to discover them. Hehe.
I'm positive, this Nikke has acquired abilities of the corruption WITH THE HELP OF RED SHOES!!!
the obssession over Cinderella :
Corruption-a completely advanced Nikke developed by humanity to triumph against us Raptures how wonderful if I can turn it against them it'll be so glorious our conquest will be fulfilled by her
RedShoes-grrrr.....The data they consumed from me,and chose to pick her over me even at this scheme of mine, it chosen her over me damn this
I have no choice & no going back from this.....
When you mentioned if RS was somehow alive in modern day Nikke and nobody would hesitate to put a bullet between her eyes I couldn't agree more. Especially now how Cinderella and Abe have remained together as a duo. I know friends have thrown out theories about Nihilister being heretic RS. Adding onto this comment, I wonder if that's the reason why RS was smiling when fighting Anachiro. What if she was admiring her creation up close knowing this is how everything was turning out the way she wanted?
If that's the case then red shoes is dead
I really cannot see nihilister originally being Red Shoes. the change in appearance is way too much, as well as their goals being way too different. Nihilister likes destroying things, and wants to be the most powerful there is to the point where she even wants to fight the queen herself, while Red shoes wants to unify everything and coexist with the Raptures
@@roxasfrost3593 that's what conflicted me when my friend threw the theory out. All he was going off was appearance considering how both RS and Nihilister are heavily modified at their legs though key difference is RS was a melee Nikke and well Nihilister uses Cannons
@@ezpadarozaazul6813 yea exactly. Red Shoes' weapon did run off to the raptures as well, so if she really was Nihilister, she still would be using those weapons and possibly upgraded it
Wait wait, a wrote out a theory, let me Grab It really Quick
That was a good call in your previous video calling out Red Shoes before it was revealed.
Your Honor, my client is too late to be corrected -me being Red Shoes' lawyer
When the reveal came, I already had a vague understanding that it would be her. But hearing her say that she developed corruption willingly, made my blood boil. Reading the corruption reports, the many MP Nikkes used for her experiments, the suffering of all those after Cinderella.
The worst part is, we actually had a chance to win. Cinderella alone nearly won against the Queen, imagine if Goddess Squad was beside her.
Should RS return, I will see to it personally that she feels the full weight and ramifications of her sin. Who knows, maybe we can call in a favor from Jien. The good ol’ Yuni treatment…
That will give Red Shoes what she wants
@ What RS wants is to become a Heretic, coexisting with the raptures. If she were given the Yuni treatment, though she may be fused with rapture parts(doesn’t have to be just the legs necessarily), she would have to serve the CG’s interest under threat of termination. What most likely would happen though if she were alive and captive, the CG would just terminate her on the spot due to her existence as a 2nd-gen Grimms model.
*If* by some chance Red Shoes managed to offload a copy of herself somehow and we encounter her down the road? I hope that if the Tales Squad isn't the ones to put her down for good as a group, that it's either the remnants of the Goddess Squad as penance for what happened to Red Hood, Pinne, and Liliweiss, or by the Counters and/or Marian herself if not Cinderella and possibly the Old Tales being also involved dealing the final blow. Hell, I'd be satisfied if it was Abe/Grave dealing the final blow seeing as she "made" Red Shoes as a Nikke after she willingly gave herself up to the conversion program back in the day.
If RS return, I'm actually going to go Asura's wrath on her, making her suffer even if she regenerates from it, making it her own personal living hell until she begs for death
I'm pretty sure she'll come back. She's the annoying type of evil. They always return.
Rad Shoes is basically Saren from Mass Effect. She is gone mad on wrong idea thinking that it may resolve conflict so raptures gladly used her same as reapers from Mass Effect used the turian
Comparing Red Shoes to Saren is stretching it a bit.
When it comes to Saren, he was pretty much right, because the strongest forces who were supposed to be fighting against the Reapers kept f*cking things up...
-The Krogan wanted to continue waging war against anything that moved.
-The Salarians withheld their resources unless the Krogan maintained their status as a dying race.
-The Asari deliberately hid critical Prothean technology (that was supposed to be shared) so they could claim the position as the apex species.
-Whether the Geth worshiped the Reapers or not was based on a math equation...
-Don't even get me started on Citadel Council... (Both official and replacement)
The only reason Saren's plan failed was because (Just like Red Shoes) the Reapers didn't care about him. Even towards other machines, the reapers saw themselves as superior. Which is why the Reapers treated the Heretic-Geth as expendable soldiers.
Shepard perfected Saren's plan by creating techno-organic life and placing them on equal status with the reapers, so they have no choice but to leave organic and synthetic life alone.
I feel the reflection of red shows in the map is how Cinderella intérpretes her.
What if Enikk already corrupted every single Nikke in the Ark and activate the code when it's deem nescesary in her eyes
Red Shoes is Nikke's biggest opp
No one can fix her she far beyond saving
I think Red Shoes is probably niw a Heretic if she survived or if the Raptures found her.
Also its not the first time the theme of unification is present. Look at Queen and also at the next Queen, Marian (I also think Marian is special, like shes related to the Queen or Lilith. She has to be powerful too because she became a Heretic and even the future Queen.). Half Rapture, half Nikke/human. Maybe Queen had this idea if unifying everything too. I think its gonna be very important in the story at some point.
Well, if we follow the fairy tale of Red Shoes, at the end, the girl ask for forgiveness and it is granted. If we do follow THAT story, probably Red Shoes will be redeemed in some way.
How? I have no idea.
And am I the only one who thinks its weird Nihilister is always mentioned having clashed with Abe and the volcano with the pictures of Red Shoes in the map before the whole world is turned into white?
Crow is no loner the most hated Nikke. Red Shoes is now at the top.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say we never 'knew' the real Red Shoes. If she was the mad scientist type that we believe her to be, then she was the first person she experimented corruption on, all of them likely using her personality code, which is why she's able to be a wolf in sheep's clothing so effectively. Where the real Red Shoes began and where her corrupted self ends is likely a blur. To be so in sync with her corruption, or "functionally corrupted", shows how truly far gone she was.
She probably had legitimate hopes and aspirations for saving humanity, and those dreams were likely twisted and perverted the moment she corrupted herself. There's really no other good explanation for why she has such twisted ideals of how to best save humanity by joining the raptures. It proves that she's always wanted to save humanity and wanted the power to do it, no matter the cost, even if it meant singularity and legion
She probably planned this before becoming a nikke,
@@TheGoat-z7x It's possible! I think it would be a missed opportunity to make Red Shoes an interesting character to sympathize with if her motives were meant for this from the very start, instead of having bright-eyed, honest and good ideals for saving humanity, but between her research and the seemingly hopeless circumstances of infinite raptures, she may have just lost the plot, losing sight of her original ideals and surrendered herself to the idea of "if you can't beat them, join them"
I don't believe Red Hood's version of Corruption was the same that Cinderella dealt with. Red Hood was corrupted before Cindy, by Ultra, and in Rapunzel's new bond story we learn that there were effectively 2 versions of the corruption. The first (What they originally encountered) just paralysed the Nikke or made them unresponsive. Red Hood probably had the first iteration of it, it's important to note that Red Hood was fighting off Corruption for a long time. It was that desire to find the cure of Red Hoods' corruption that prompted Rapunzel's interest in it in the first place, how to resolve, and she went to Abe and Red Shoes who were two of the top minds of VTC. Unknowingly, it was probably Rapunzel supplying Red Shoes with these corrupted Nikke's that we know are to be held in her private research lab.
From those corrupted, Nikke's is when Red Shoes stumbled on the corruption and how it affected the NIMPH. Red Shoes creates a new strand of the virus, corruption code, and sends it off via one of the corrupted Nikke's being let go. Then a Rapture assembled that Nikke, acquiring the code, and then that new strand of the code was assimilated by the Queen and further enhanced. Perhaps you could make the comparison to how pathogens are passed by in humans when they consume tainted beef, other forms of meat, that the Nikke was brought to the lift to be used as spare parts for the Raptures.
I think it's important to note WHY the first corruption code froze the nikkes. Probably easier to find a stun locked machine, acquire it, bring it back to the nest (The Lift) to be de-assembled for Rapture parts. Remember, before this point heretics did not exist. The rapture lacked the ability to take the nikke, corrupt, to have them become assets; they existed solely to be consumed or used for additional raptures. Looking at Red Shoes, how the Raptures were only interested in her weaponry goes to show that they initially were only interested in materials. I think Red Shoes couldn't become a Heretic because she was corrupted with the initial batch rather than the new, upgraded one. In the same way Red Hood was able to fight off the initial strand, via will power, I think the same could be said of Red Shoes whose desire/will to complete her mission is what prevented her full corruption.
Then in the timeline we have the new batch of the virus, hand-delivered by Rapunzel, in her pursuit of trying to figure out the corruption. Once Red Shoes acquired the new variant, that the Raptures perfected, she began testing it further. One plot hole that needs to be addressed, that people are overlooking, Oswald says in Red Shoe's Lab there were also Rapture's stripped of their armour that emitted the code etc. Red Shoes wasn't deployed outside the facility, the second generation grim models never had real combat, so how did she acquire these Raptures? Rapunzel didn't deliver those, she delivered corrupted Nikke. Also, for the timeline sake, Red Shoes would have had to have those Raptures PRIOR to the corruption of Cinderella. That's how she learned how to refine the code, implement it, when she ultimately corrupted Cinderella. That means we have another bad actor that: was supplying red shoes with the Raptures, knew of her secret location where she performed these experiments, and could have shared a mutual belief with Red Shoes.
I think the possibility of another actor makes sense when we think of what we saw with the Queen. 001, As in like a test subject. If the Queen was a man made creation, who made her? It's not Abe, It's not Red Shoes, so who? Mind you those are the top 2 minds of the VTC, but you also have the other government; that later combines with the VTC to become the Central Gov. I think the initial scientist or mind that made the queen (Assuming that's what happened) actually helped Red Shoes in her pursuit. Maybe because from what we saw of the Queen, she's a torso and immobile; stuck, likely on the Satellite connected to the lift. Maybe by assisting Red Shoe's Pursuit's, they hoped to find a way to transfer the mind/consciousness of the Queen into a new body/form? Do we know of anyone else in the story who has shown to do something similar to that?
Oh, that's right. Enikk, who injected the corruption into Marian. Who conveniently is to become the next "Queen", with the 002 on her skin from the Last Kingdom Event? It would not shock me if it's revealed that Enikk is more than an AI. Think how AI works, you feed it information. What if Enikk is an AI whose information was compiled from the original mind that made the first queen? A way of becoming a Nikke, without becoming a Nikke, to continue a scientist's goal from beyond the grave? All in their push for the furthered evolution of the Human Race?
Also, isn't it funny that Chatterbox had direct ties with Enikk? Chatterbox is the one that reveals Modernia's true role as the new Queen. We assumed, because Enikk told us, that she fed Chatterbox Nikke's for the Ark's "survival" but what if Chatterbox is one of her creations or at the very least one of her chess pieces? Also Chatterbox was protective of Modernia when corrupted, she even went as far as to call him her Ally.
Just some random thoughts.
The Red Hood argument really doesn't work when she left in order to not turn on her friends and make them have to kill her
Red shoes: explains that she implanted the corruption into Cinderella.
Cinderella: what...
Red shoes: Now, I know that sounds bad...
Cinderella: Proceeds to shoot Red Shoes multiple times furiously.
I don't believe THIS Red Shoes is redeemable, because she not only doesn't want to be redeemed, but is quite literally the original Heretic, and the only willing heretic. She was totally insane, believing that total annihilation was somehow unity.
The only way I could see a version of Red Shoes being redeemed, is if we encountered a version of Red Shoes who was not a Heretic, like an AU version of her. Even villains like Nihilister, or Crow, feel more redeemable then Red Shoes. At least with Cinderella it actually felt like she was being forced to do things, Red Shoes did everything willingly. So the only way to redeem her would be for a version of her that simply "Isn't" the Heretic we saw to appear.
And even then, I'm not sure I'd want her to be redeemed. I'd rather her be an eternal villain.
Is it crazy that I'm more in love with Red Shoes now.
Her banner would break the game.
The second half was a good and very sad story. After finding out who was responsible for the corruption red shoes is the most hated character in the game, and I have a theory as well I think Enikk is red shoes but as a backup program so she can continue her research in corruption
If Red Shoes does somehow return, it’s on sight for causing Snow White to cry.
bro, it just came out to my mind, what if one of the test raptures of red shoes with her corruption that she meant to evolve and only one succeeded, and it's raptillon, now raptillon is doing his job changing the raptures he encounters just like mother whale and change into like helping the humans instead the raptures. Sorry for my English
for me I'll stay neutral to red shoes right now, we still don't know what happen to his own lab, what was she thinking while making those corruption and spread to the raptures and thinking that it well evolved into something she's never even know what will happen to the rapture with her own corruption.
Umm... I guess Raptilion is just a normal human, that is using a Raptures like armor (The name of the armor is RaptoCamo, if I'm not mistaken). Even at 1 point, Commander using RaptoCamo too, to Test how they can communicate with Raptures.
Don't forget when we met with him again in the Main Story, he was really dehydrated... the things that can't happen to Raptures.
I think the Raptures would have been able to perfect the corruption on their own. However, it would have taken longer. Red shoes sped up the process ensuring the retreat of humanity.
The players to red shoes: WHY COULDN'T YOU HAVE JUST MADE A CORRUPTION THAT MADE THE RAPTURES JOIN US INSTEAD!?!!?
One could also say that Red Shoes accidentally saved humanity. If she did not corrupt Cinderella then the Goddess Squad would have gotten on the lift and been blasted by the Queen, just like we see in the Old Tales event. Then everything would have played out basically the same just minus the Goddess Squad.
Who's to say the Queen didn't reinforce her security and herself after she learned that the Goddess squad was coming for her? Plus, instead of one overpowered Nikke (Cinderella) and three specialists (Hansel, Gretel and Little Mermaid), we would have had three overpowered Nikkes (Cinderella, Red Hood and Liliweiss), two all around powerhouses (Dorothy and Scarlet) and two specialists (Rapunzel and Snow White), the latter who could have seen the trap coming and had most likely prepared countermeasures for a lot of scenarios. One of the reasons why Cinderella's group went as badly as it did is because it happened without preparation and without support. That was not the case with the Goddess squad who had the support of literally all of humanity at the time, back when their military strength still hadn't been fully decimated by the Raptures.
And even still in the end, Cinderella did manage to neutralize the Queen in space. The reason why we're in this mess, is most likely that the Raptures exploited both Red Shoes' corruption (her fault), and the fact that Liliweiss was exhausted after fending off Raptures during the evacuation and the Ark's sealing (also ultimately a result of Red Shoes turning Cinderella against mankind) to kill Liliweiss, steal her head and repurpose it as a new Rapture Queen.
Not to mention the very fact that Red Shoes created the current corruption also turned Nikkes from heroines to objects of fear and helped justify the current discriminatory hierarchy where they barely have human rights.
So yes, the world would still have been a better place without Red Shoes. At the very least it would have been harder to justify the current system where they send dumbasses to die in the surface and have young women turned into Nikkes just to either become slaves to the Central Government, die meaninglessly under some stupid commander or get corrupted with all the trauma it implies.
Given the initial beating we saw Cinderella giving the Queen before she sucker punched her off the station, I don't see any reason that the combined efforts of the Goddess Squad alongside Cinderella couldn't have roasted her to bits. Especially when we know that Liliweiss is a one-woman army in her own right who in many ways surpasses the rest of the Goddesses all on her own. It wouldn't have been a contest, and that's why Cinderella's conversion into Anachiro screwed things up so badly.
@@TheGamingDavester To me it looked like the Queen wasn't even trying. She very slowly using 1 finger to attack. Then after Cinderella got off a good hit, that still didn't appear to cause any real damage, the Queen then got serious and knock Cinderella outta the space station. And I think that the reason why the Queen wasn't trying in the beginning was that the Corruption made Cinderella appear as an ally to her.
Also my other point was that the Queen would have attempted to kill everyone while they were in the lift.
Lastly, Cinderella's part of the mission was just to create a path for the Goddess Squad to get to the lift. There is no indication that she would join them in the attack on the Queen.
Nice try Red Shoes, now go back to your cave I don't think we are forgiving you
Red Shoe unredeemable!
Red shoes. Somewhat the first corrupted Nikke without being corrupted…
Red Shoes cannot be redeemed, BUT, there's a possibility of having a playable Red Shoes.
Since she copied her personality, we may have someone who's created copies of Red Shoes: cloned brains into replica bodies.
One newly created clone gets exposed to the commander's blood, destroying her NIMPH and causing her personality to nearly become a tabula rasa.
Aprehended by the main cast (new liberation unit?), she's scrutinized, specially by Cinderella, to be sure that she's not Red Shoes anymore.
And there you have it: a playable Red Shoes.
Shift Up Employee #1: Hey, are we going to give Crow a redemption arc?
Shift Up Employee #2: Hell yeah! We can't let such a great character design go to waste.
Shift Up Employee #1: But... Doesn't everyone really hate Crow?
Shift Up Employee #2: Hmm... You're right... I know! Let's give them someone they'll hate so much more that Crow will seems tame in comparison.
Shift Up Employee #1: You wouldn't...
Nah both Red Shoes and Crow deserver the scrap heap
4:37-the audacity.well you throw away your humanity...yet you are not enough for them
all the work you've done only to be valued lesser by the Raptures you serve
you wish to be the one to spread to humanity the capacity of Raptures for diplomatic
coexistence yet not qualifying enough to sent that very message it lied and made
you view yourself as not enough
Red shoes was psychotic for this action. I’m still loss for words man I can’t even right now. I just want to hug Cinderella and Snow White
In another way red shoes could have been like ether. Someone who's morales are questionable but wants to better mankind though science but went the wrong path
you could say she is the "woman who sold the world"
looking in inventory. a leg gear section.
red shoes!! red shoes everywhere!!!!!?????
People would think Crow would ally herself to Red Shoes.
Wrong, she would kill her too.
Red Shoes Amongus has always been..
theres always that one psycho in an apocalyptic survivor group that literally thought coexisting with the devil is a good idea in the expenese of their allies.
I new she something was off about red shoes form the moment I saw her from being envious of Cinderella. Red shoes being crazy before becoming a nikke having Cinderella pictures everywhere
you sure we could have ended the war ? i dont know. not even Cinderella could have stop her. and she suppose to be the "ace" in the hole.
if Rs still alive and Dorothy somehow know about this i don't think this will end well with Dorothy going on murder toward her.😅
I liked to think red shoes had some good intentions but with the downward spiral of pain that happened after it's all so unforgivable even tho I want to see the good in her I can't forgive the only fitting punishment she can get is to spend the rest of her life fixing her mistake knowing she won't ever be forgiven for what she did
I was concerned with Ennik until the part in the story where she basically recognised that without any checks on her power she could do something that would not benefit the Ark, so she gave a commander a way to neutralise her with the help of her sister Einnk. Extending her trust towards the commander to keep an eye on her and ensure she does not go astray.
Well if red shoes is still alive somehow without a shred of a doubt cindy is going straight at her no questions ask, just delete of the map.
Only Cinderella get revenge for the pain she not her but the people she causes downfall
There's one question that I want answered; what the hell is Vapaus? We know it kills about 98% of Nikke's nanomachines but what exactly is it and why does the Commander have it?
Vapaus is essentially a special type of blood that the Commander and Andersen have
The depression... continues flowing...
I mean I'm pretty sure no one thinks red shoes is actually redeemable. You could argue she's not entirely evil and at least had somewhat of a decent motive but like there's no redeeming her. I'm quite curious on how she came this unification conclusion in the first place so hopefully if or when she gets a unit we get more lore on that. W video as always
Indeed the cycle is clearly very big and round 👀
I don't mind her creating the corruption. Without her, we couldnt see the possibility where rapture queen can even side with humanity. Which is out of Red shoes' imagination, context: Modernia during Kingdoms
I must congratulate Red Shoes on surpassing Crow in terms of levels of hatred from the community, at the very least, because of her insanity we have the lovely Heritics Nikkes like Modernia, and Nihilister.
As a lore channel Pyrrhixz is going to be really happy with the ending of the hard chapters xD
Enikk what are you planning to,you will not get away from it.
Even if she is irredeemable. I still want her. Very sad to see she went like she did. I wanted to learn more about her. I'll keep my hand out if she wants to take it.
10:30 I KNOW MY ASS WONT IM LETTING THIS SHIT RIP LIKE A BEYBLADE RED SHOES IS MY OPP
The o nly thing i'm slightly not aware of is how long ago did she push out the Code to the raptures before she perfected it. Because Red hood was already corrupted before the Lift fight and had been for a while. She also had a version of the code that allowed her to fight it almost like the early stages of the corruption, So Red Hood can't have been corrupted with the same Strain that Red Shoes used for Cindy. Unless She has had this Perfected code in her back pocket for a long time and was just waiting for the right moment to inject Cindy with it.
I think Red Hood had a somehow improved version of the OG corruption, because her symptoms pointed to her shutting down instead of becoming a heretic, but I think because of Anachiro that's what caused them to be afraid of her becoming one and issued the mercy kill policy
Red Hood was infected by an Ultra. Based on the story, the Ultras were the pioneers of corruption. We know that Red Hood got corrupted before Scarlet joined the squad as well. So this is way before Red Shoes let her codes loose. My guess is Red Hood got the natural corruption that evolved slowly over time, either cos the code in the Ultra had evolved to an extent by that point or the corruption code slowly evolved inside her.
i forgot what video i started i thnk it was a dub bond but im happy i found the channel and i was suprised watching a stream of yours old tales story one your my faivroute nikke creator also whose the most evil character in nikke i say red shoes crow is at least a bit understandable shes a b word but her words to have some truth in them
people like her will always appear in any scenario heck even in our current timeline there's jien who experimenting nikke and raptures
All of Cinderella part was sad and made me cry 😢 😔😔😔😔
Hi Nikke Community! I want to ask something, some youtuber said that cindy fighting the queen was a lily head but i saw the ending the queen head isn't a lily head, the story old tales begin after the event red ash, after red hood defeated anachiro then it bring to the story old tales when cindy wake up and realize she's not corrupted anymore.
Thats bring to the scene that cindy team with abe and her other friends to beat up the queen on space. After being defeted by queen the cindy falling down to earth at the same time lily also killed in the war, the scene where she laydown on the wall and tge meteor come across in the sky.
My theory is lily head has been taken by rapture and being corrupted replacing the head of queen after being damage by cindy We know the overzone haopen after the old tales after pilgrim been task to guard until the ark is completed. But the central gov just using them because scare the goddes gonna be another heretic(corrupted) like cindy(anachiro) thats why the locked up the ark and never let the goddess squad come in.
Some youtber said that the queen when cindy fighting is lilyweiss but how come? Just think about that its not logic. It is my understanding correct? Sorry about a bad grammar and english writing hope you guys help me explain even more in detail.
From what i saw cindy figting its not lily head! Lily is down there fighting rapture with other pilgrim!
and that's right, Cinder vs queen fight isn't lily, the youtuber is wrong 😂
Did the space station got destroyed because of the fight? Queen died because of that and raptures turned liliweis into the new queen
@@TheGoat-z7x the queen don't die, but, it looks cindy make destroy the space station, on the hard mode of the event released today, the countdown of Raptures turn from Infinite number, to have Numbers, so apparently the Queen was almost Defeated, but who knows, with everything on the events of the present future, on 100 years, many thing happened xd
Red Shoes planning on do some Zed to Nikke's only let Nikke act as a Robots, there will not be any difference between Raptures
shift up owes us more slice of life in the outpost
Since red shoes was a priest in vtc and she saids she wants to spread her beliefs i wonder if were going to deal with fanatics and rapture cultists within the ark in the future chapters?🤔
1Q- how did RedHood got the Corruption in her
A. Experimentation. to study the effect of corruption on a Goddess model
B.Combat damage. received the Corruption from a High-Level Type Rapture
With the fact that Enik has the corruption code, maybe Anis will get implanted with it while she gets her upgrades. But im hoping it will be neon.
Guys, this may be off topic of this video so I’m sorry but I have 276 good mileage tickets and I can’t choose on deciding if I want one on grave or Cinderella. Keep in mind that I already have Cinderella 2/3 of limit break and I haven’t been able to pull grave yet but I really want Cinderellas wall paper but I know that the rng gods most likely won’t let me pull grave (they sucked me dry) and I can’t decide on what to do
One thing in Nikke is No ones ever truly dead red shoes is most likely revived and turned into a Heretic what she always wanted she recieved
Next is the confirmation that the raptures are humanities fault and that the real queen was an AI that went rogue. There have been hints towards that.
I never thought I'd see the day that there is someone more hateable than Crow. But God damn was Red Shoes a misguided fool.