When my grandfather passed, he left all of his O gauge trains to me. I have a post war GG-1, number 2340 dating from the late 40's very early 50's. Still running and pulling hard around the track. I also have steam locomotives from him as well that date back into the 30's and they still run with a little coaxing and tune up. Cool to see them!
I grew up with the GG-1 in the 50s and 60s. My grandmother and aunts lived across the street from the New York-Washington line while my other grandparents lived in Washington DC. We almost always went to and from Wilmington DE, where the platforms were low, unlike in Philly and Washington. I vividly recall from early childhood how HUGE they seemed as they eased by the platform at Wilmington, and when waiting for the local to Philly at Moore/Prospect Park, how terrifying the expresses seemed as they roared by at 75 mph. By my time I think all the grade crossings had been done away with other than at Newark DE and Aberdeen MD. I'd listen for the sound of that gorgeous horn, unlike anything on other locomotives. Altogether I think the GG-1 is the best industrial design of anything ever. I was astonished when I learned the design was pre-WWII.
Not only the GG1's were legendary, but they also made history. For example, in 1945, a Pennsy GG1 pulled the funeral train of President Franklin D. Roosevelt from Washington, D.C.'s Union Station to New York City's Pennsylvania Station. Another example is on June 8, 1968, Penn Central GG1s #4901 and #4903 pulled Robert F. Kennedy's funeral train. The 3rd example is during the Flying Scotsman's American Tour in 1969, which was hauled by a Penn Central GG1 through Pennsylvania.
The GG1 Locomotive design is simply beautiful! I myself have always been a train lover. I love the way You explained and the presented this model. Thank You for this video!
Love your videos Eric!! The smoke simulates the pop valves from the GG1s steam generator for the steam heat on the passenger cars. Im glad Lionel added this feature as it is very prototypical of the GG1 locomotive. Once again, great review!!
We have a GG1 at the Museum of the American Railroad in Frisco Texas. Our was one that pulled Bobby Kennedy Funeral Train, when he was shot in California and flown to NY City. Bobby Kennedy funeral train went from NY City to Washington DC and he was laid to rest at Arlington Virginia, next to his brother John who was assassinated in Dallas Tx. Sadly when the Funeral train was running, there were people on the tracks and were killed by a train running in the opposite direction. Also the GG1 has no front or back, it has two fronts and can run in either direction. Also it pulled passengers and freight as well and our ran over 40 years before being retired.
Thank you for showing the GG1's. When I was a young boy I received a new GGi together with three Madison, Manhattan and Irvington cars. The GG1 that I got always had the dull stripes right from when it was new.
Love the difference in proportions between the 2 versions. Had to pause and show it to my friend. It’s really like comparing a person in a live action show with one in an anime.
There's an additional two GG-1's in Cooperstown Junction, NY about 6 miles east of the city of Oneonta on NY-7. They've moved off the track paralleling the D&H (now Norfolk Southern), and across NY-7 onto a spur that eventually leads to the village of Cooperstown on the Cooperstown & Charlotte Valley, paralleling Otsego County Road 35. Worth a trip! Both are still PC black, and carry their Amtrak road numbers, and a faded PC stencil can still be seen on the southern most unit. I want to say their road numbers are 4912 and 4934 if memory serves. Enjoy!
I recently got an HO scale model of one of these GG1s. The one I got is PRR 4890. The reason being that is that that’s the first GG1 I got to see in person.
Hey Eric... I hope you get a chance to read this. Just a friendly tip: As a photographer if you want smoke to be visible in any visual medium, it requires a backlit source. Any source brighter than the ambient light. So grab yourself any desk lamp, flash light (focus light), or bare-bulb light source and place out of lens sight and behind the smoke and your locomotive smoke should be beautifully visible. Hope this helps. Aaaallll abooooard...!!!
I love watching these videos. I can only imagine how much money these people have warped up in there layouts, the average Jo can't afford this hobby anymore. Twenty years ago you could buy a Rivarossi engine for around $200.00 dollars and were considered top of the line. Now junk HO engines go for $ 500.00 To $ 700.00 dollars, pricing the hobby out of most peoples pocket book. It is sad but it's become a rich mans world.
Lionel's postwar, MPC and Richard Kuhn era GG1s were all built with scale height and width but was shortened to be only 2/3rds the length of a scale model as can be seen when the two are side by side in your video. Even back in the 1940's, Lionel was aware of scale proportions and determined that it would have been too long or heavy for young children to handle, much the same as the prewar standard gauge 381e. When you pointed out that 'seem' down the middle of the GG1 over the headlights, I examined my JLC model and they addressed that seem perfectly. That's weird that Lionel, while their earlier JLC models casting seem was completely removed, their Legacy/Vision Line version actually still had this casting 'flaw'.
Eric, Thank You again. Another hour of pure entertainment and features. It is funny I always know which feature you are going to like best, it is in your voice in the review. The likely hood that I will ever be able to put up a layout of this scale if not high. I am an n scale man. Boy do I enjoy all of the things you outline. I will make a strange request, I would like to see you do a "dark" video. A night view of your layout with your favorite engine. (By the way, the sound of the GG1 arc sound it is very real. I have never seen a GG1 run, but I live right on the Harrisburg PA, Station, and let me tell you looking down on a "toaster" during an ice storm several years ago, you could see the flash and hear the arc! Vaporizing the ice on the lines in a flash of blue white light).
WOW! Lionel hit it out of park with this one! And, so did you Eric with the review! One of only two Pennsylvania engines I would like to have some day. This AMTRAK scheme is very nice (the blue stripe reminds me of the solid stripe that the Pennsy used.) "Old Rivets" as built, is the version I am interested in. Enjoy them Eric!
Hi Eric! Thanks for a very informative video. Lionel really outdid themselves with the new GG1 even with the errant mold line. I've often wondered if the GG1, first built in 1934, came about in part due to the Cleveland Union Terminal (CUT) P1a electrics which possessed the same wheel arrangement and were built by ALCO & GE in 1929. Although the CUT electrics lacked the streamlined carbody of the GG1's they shared a lot of similarities. Thanks again for the video and all the hard work that made it possible. It is greatly appreciated.
That wheel arrangement was also used on the New Haven electrics of the same era and the Pennsy borrowed one of them during the design phase of the GG1.
kiwitrainguy You are correct. I do believe that the New Haven electrics preceded the Pennsy GG1 by a few years. I guess that CUT, GE and ALCO came up with a winner and the GG1 was the icing on the cake.
If you think about it, the GG-1 is GE's version of the 4-6-6-4 Challenger. If the PRR ever order there own steam challenger locomotives, i'm sure they would be classified as GG-2. If the Milwaukee Road ever owned their own GG-1's I'm sure they would classify them as EC-1's EC standing for Electric Challenger.
I love this video. This video has inspired me to find an original 2332. For me, when it comes to finding a Postwar engine, I’d want to find one that’s in operating condition.
One GG1 in Amtrak livery is at they New York State Fairgrounds near Syracuse. Of course, it never ran on the Water Level Route (NYC Main Line) but it still looks cool.
I'm considering getting a used one rather that pre-order a new one... any long term issues come out of these? I've heard they have motor problems, any truth to that?
Oh my god, i got introduced to the gg1 in such a weird way, in the form of a lopsided wooden Christmas ornament that i picked out because it looked cool, with the sleek yet industrial shape and the dark red paint with gold pinstripes
as you were pointing out the seem, I couldnt help but notice the grab irons around the door looks to have heavy paint , almost drip like. Is this the case or am I wrong?
Can you do the Amtrak x996, the Rc-4s, the e60s, the aem-7s, all different kinds of Amtrak turboliners, the Amtrak ice train and x2000 the Amtrak Acela Express, the hhp8s, the acs64s and the SC44s, and do Canadian pacific and Canadian national steam locomotives, diesel locomotives, and do GTW 6407 and CN 6400
Eric great overview, I am back at restoring the family O-gauge postwar trains. The question seems all Vision line is 0-72 sized which is too big for tube rails I am running 031 036 042. Can you run on any of the newer reproductions trains on tube rail like min and with ZW transformers
I got to see the engineers seat in a GG1 in the Pennsy Museum . Loco is enormous. Place for engineer is small and cramped like an airline bathroom. The “fireman” chair to the left is a narrow crooked aisle.
another awesome video! i was wondering, when you do the passenger car video for the gg1's could you show us the interior lighting stuff? im sure its not easy to get with a camera but love to see details like that. this video was worth the wait regardless!
That’s an amazing engine if only things with this quality did not cost about 500-100 bucks I would by a t1-4444 duplex if I had the money great review and nice engine by the way
When my grandfather passed, he left all of his O gauge trains to me. I have a post war GG-1, number 2340 dating from the late 40's very early 50's. Still running and pulling hard around the track. I also have steam locomotives from him as well that date back into the 30's and they still run with a little coaxing and tune up. Cool to see them!
I grew up with the GG-1 in the 50s and 60s. My grandmother and aunts lived across the street from the New York-Washington line while my other grandparents lived in Washington DC. We almost always went to and from Wilmington DE, where the platforms were low, unlike in Philly and Washington. I vividly recall from early childhood how HUGE they seemed as they eased by the platform at Wilmington, and when waiting for the local to Philly at Moore/Prospect Park, how terrifying the expresses seemed as they roared by at 75 mph. By my time I think all the grade crossings had been done away with other than at Newark DE and Aberdeen MD. I'd listen for the sound of that gorgeous horn, unlike anything on other locomotives. Altogether I think the GG-1 is the best industrial design of anything ever. I was astonished when I learned the design was pre-WWII.
Thank You Eric, that was ELECTRIFYING !
More like SHOCKINGLY interesting
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Gotta love the silky smooth low speed operation...
Not only the GG1's were legendary, but they also made history. For example, in 1945, a Pennsy GG1 pulled the funeral train of President Franklin D. Roosevelt from Washington, D.C.'s Union Station to New York City's Pennsylvania Station. Another example is on June 8, 1968, Penn Central GG1s #4901 and #4903 pulled Robert F. Kennedy's funeral train. The 3rd example is during the Flying Scotsman's American Tour in 1969, which was hauled by a Penn Central GG1 through Pennsylvania.
The GG1 Locomotive design is simply beautiful! I myself have always been a train lover. I love the way You explained and the presented this model. Thank You for this video!
Love your videos Eric!! The smoke simulates the pop valves from the GG1s steam generator for the steam heat on the passenger cars. Im glad Lionel added this feature as it is very prototypical of the GG1 locomotive. Once again, great review!!
We have a GG1 at the Museum of the American Railroad in Frisco Texas. Our was one that pulled Bobby Kennedy Funeral Train, when he was shot in California and flown to NY City. Bobby Kennedy funeral train went from NY City to Washington DC and he was laid to rest at Arlington Virginia, next to his brother John who was assassinated in Dallas Tx. Sadly when the Funeral train was running, there were people on the tracks and were killed by a train running in the opposite direction. Also the GG1 has no front or back, it has two fronts and can run in either direction. Also it pulled passengers and freight as well and our ran over 40 years before being retired.
Thank you for showing the GG1's. When I was a young boy I received a new GGi together with three Madison, Manhattan and Irvington cars. The GG1 that I got always had the dull stripes right from when it was new.
Love the difference in proportions between the 2 versions. Had to pause and show it to my friend. It’s really like comparing a person in a live action show with one in an anime.
Great video Eric! Coming from someone who owns one of these as well they are amazing models! I got one of the "Old Rivets" models.
Raymond Lowey redesigned the GG1 without rivets, so they were more aero-dynamic and more sleek. They were redesigned with an all welded body.
I really enjoy your reviews.Having spent time in tv back in the day I want to thank you for your well thought out presentations.
Robert Nielsen Thanks!
Thanks for the extended action 'footage'.
AWESOME VIDEO! Thank you for taking so much time to present such a complete review. You really are the best!!!
There's an additional two GG-1's in Cooperstown Junction, NY about 6 miles east of the city of Oneonta on NY-7. They've moved off the track paralleling the D&H (now Norfolk Southern), and across NY-7 onto a spur that eventually leads to the village of Cooperstown on the Cooperstown & Charlotte Valley, paralleling Otsego County Road 35. Worth a trip! Both are still PC black, and carry their Amtrak road numbers, and a faded PC stencil can still be seen on the southern most unit. I want to say their road numbers are 4912 and 4934 if memory serves. Enjoy!
I like the arc effect too.
That panto lighting effect is pretty cool
Congratulations, Eric! On all of your accomlishments (train and otherwise!)
Amazing review good idea to include pictures Too
Awesome video Eric! I'm a big railroad history buff so this was awesome
great, great review Eric! Fact-packed and interesting a always! Thanks again for all your hard work.
thanks Eric that was another great review and run session!
I love the lighting effect on the gg1
Looks great and you do a wonderful job of introducing it.
it's the sound of the traction motors taking a load. and also the Constant noise you hear is the traction motor blower fans.
I recently got an HO scale model of one of these GG1s. The one I got is PRR 4890. The reason being that is that that’s the first GG1 I got to see in person.
What a great review.
I love this GG1! Thanks loads Eric!
Wow, your lucky to have two of the GG1’s. I’ve now switched to HO so maybe I got have 2 Bachmann GG1’s
Would love to see a close-up of the back lit gauges you mentioned.
Hey Eric... I hope you get a chance to read this. Just a friendly tip: As a photographer if you want smoke to be visible in any visual medium, it requires a backlit source. Any source brighter than the ambient light. So grab yourself any desk lamp, flash light (focus light), or bare-bulb light source and place out of lens sight and behind the smoke and your locomotive smoke should be beautifully visible. Hope this helps.
Aaaallll abooooard...!!!
I love watching these videos. I can only imagine how much money these people have warped up in there layouts, the average Jo can't afford this hobby anymore. Twenty years ago you could buy a Rivarossi engine for around $200.00 dollars and were considered top of the line.
Now junk HO engines go for $ 500.00 To $ 700.00 dollars, pricing the hobby out of most peoples pocket book. It is sad but it's become a rich mans world.
A six figure income is now mandatory for a basic middle class life.
Very nice! Wish my American Models GG-1 had the arc light effect.
Lionel's postwar, MPC and Richard Kuhn era GG1s were all built with scale height and width but was shortened to be only 2/3rds the length of a scale model as can be seen when the two are side by side in your video. Even back in the 1940's, Lionel was aware of scale proportions and determined that it would have been too long or heavy for young children to handle, much the same as the prewar standard gauge 381e. When you pointed out that 'seem' down the middle of the GG1 over the headlights, I examined my JLC model and they addressed that seem perfectly. That's weird that Lionel, while their earlier JLC models casting seem was completely removed, their Legacy/Vision Line version actually still had this casting 'flaw'.
They were the SD40-2 of elctric power, Hauled freight and passengers last nearly 50 years and were reliable.
This is Eric Siegel at his finest! Awesome video bro! Awesome engine! Thanks bro!
North Carolina bill
yep
Where's the new videos Bill. I keep looking and nothing new. You got to make them videos
I am work camping in Altoona Iowa at Adventureland, I am over 1000 miles away from my trains! And I probably won't be back home until Christmas!
Eric, Thank You again. Another hour of pure entertainment and features. It is funny I always know which feature you are going to like best, it is in your voice in the review. The likely hood that I will ever be able to put up a layout of this scale if not high. I am an n scale man. Boy do I enjoy all of the things you outline. I will make a strange request, I would like to see you do a "dark" video. A night view of your layout with your favorite engine. (By the way, the sound of the GG1 arc sound it is very real. I have never seen a GG1 run, but I live right on the Harrisburg PA, Station, and let me tell you looking down on a "toaster" during an ice storm several years ago, you could see the flash and hear the arc! Vaporizing the ice on the lines in a flash of blue white light).
great job Eric, thanks for all the videos they're all just amazing, keep up the good work :)
WOW! Lionel hit it out of park with this one! And, so did you Eric with the review! One of only two Pennsylvania engines I would like to have some day. This AMTRAK scheme is very nice (the blue stripe reminds me of the solid stripe that the Pennsy used.) "Old Rivets" as built, is the version I am interested in.
Enjoy them Eric!
At 33:59, when the dispatcher says, The train will be ready at 1730”, it means the train will be ready at 5:30PM, for those of you wondering.
Fabulous video! Well done, Eric!!
It's about time. I haven't ran mine for almost a year so far. I thought you gave the hobby up.
I grew up near the Sunnyside Yard. Had a lot of fun watching trains come out of that yard.
i have a running post war gg1 in amazing condition
Cool
That’s awesome
Wow. It’s hard to find those in decent shape
Your Layout looks extremely realistic when the lights are off and it looks cool
Hi Eric! Thanks for a very informative video. Lionel really outdid themselves with the new GG1 even with the errant mold line. I've often wondered if the GG1, first built in 1934, came about in part due to the Cleveland Union Terminal (CUT) P1a electrics which possessed the same wheel arrangement and were built by ALCO & GE in 1929. Although the CUT electrics lacked the streamlined carbody of the GG1's they shared a lot of similarities. Thanks again for the video and all the hard work that made it possible. It is greatly appreciated.
That wheel arrangement was also used on the New Haven electrics of the same era and the Pennsy borrowed one of them during the design phase of the GG1.
kiwitrainguy You are correct. I do believe that the New Haven electrics preceded the Pennsy GG1 by a few years. I guess that CUT, GE and ALCO came up with a winner and the GG1 was the icing on the cake.
Love that engine man looks pretty looks awesome
love the uploads Eric!
love the sound
If you think about it, the GG-1 is GE's version of the 4-6-6-4 Challenger. If the PRR ever order there own steam challenger locomotives, i'm sure they would be classified as GG-2. If the Milwaukee Road ever owned their own GG-1's I'm sure they would classify them as EC-1's EC standing for Electric Challenger.
A beautiful engine I remember as a youngster in 1955 when lionel came out with the congreional set
That electric crackle is sooo cool!
Great video Eric! Now I hope the next loco will be a CB&Q E5
I used to drive out to the Northeast Corridor stretch that ran to and from Baltimore. Would watch these go by.. I loved the horn on them.
I love this video. This video has inspired me to find an original 2332. For me, when it comes to finding a Postwar engine, I’d want to find one that’s in operating condition.
I saw 4935 at the Railroad Museum of Pennsylvania. What a cool locomotive.
What the 2332 has what could be described as the most realistic weathering ever applied to a locomotive
What weathering ???
@@steffenrosmus1864 The decails and paint rubbing off, and fading over time
That is not weathering that is called deterioration 😁
@@steffenrosmus1864 we know it's deteration but with are imagination it looks like weathering.
@@joedaylight so the real weathering 1.0😉😉
I used to watch the GG1’s in action at the New Jersey City transit yard towing box cars in 1987.
Very cool!
One GG1 in Amtrak livery is at they New York State Fairgrounds near Syracuse. Of course, it never ran on the Water Level Route (NYC Main Line) but it still looks cool.
Hello I am a big fan of you keep up the good work thank you
I love a true scale model in O scale along with toy-like models that are more artistic
Elkhart Indiana has a GG-1 at their train museum with a NYC 4-8-2 Mowhawk.
Great sound's of the gg1 tell Lionel that they did a great job of the sound
Wish we could have seen the cab detail...sounded real cool.
I've always been a fan of the GG1. I'm lucky and old enough to have seen these engines in action when I was in my teens (the real ones).
Likewise.
I want them to restore the one in Elkhart Indiana at the New York central museum cause I live 10 mins away from it. Amazing engine to see for sure.
Unfortunately that wouldn’t be possible due to several needs of modifications and overall completion of the GG1s
@@trainfan-ks5hk that's sad man.
Oh wow I was not expecting to see the legendary Amtrak gg1 I've literally seen the irl Amtrak gg1 not to long ago
I'm considering getting a used one rather that pre-order a new one... any long term issues come out of these? I've heard they have motor problems, any truth to that?
Oh my god, i got introduced to the gg1 in such a weird way, in the form of a lopsided wooden Christmas ornament that i picked out because it looked cool, with the sleek yet industrial shape and the dark red paint with gold pinstripes
as you were pointing out the seem, I couldnt help but notice the grab irons around the door looks to have heavy paint , almost drip like. Is this the case or am I wrong?
Great Video!
Can you do the Amtrak x996, the Rc-4s, the e60s, the aem-7s, all different kinds of Amtrak turboliners, the Amtrak ice train and x2000 the Amtrak Acela Express, the hhp8s, the acs64s and the SC44s, and do Canadian pacific and Canadian national steam locomotives, diesel locomotives, and do GTW 6407 and CN 6400
more post-war trains please! I love the comparison great video thanks.
That locomotive was electro "cute"! Very nice!
Eric great overview, I am back at restoring the family O-gauge postwar trains. The question seems all Vision line is 0-72 sized which is too big for tube rails I am running 031 036 042. Can you run on any of the newer reproductions trains on tube rail like min and with ZW transformers
There's a New York Central GG1 at the New York Central Railroad Museum in Elkhart, IN.
I never knew Amtrak used GG1's. Well, you learn something new everyday. 😁
With those red noses they were known as "W.C. Fields GG1s".
So, which is the better manufacturer, MTH or Lionel?
awesome video. very cool.
I got to see the engineers seat in a GG1 in the Pennsy Museum . Loco is enormous. Place for engineer is small and cramped like an airline bathroom. The “fireman” chair to the left is a narrow crooked aisle.
GG1 4913 is at the Railroaders Memorial Museum in Altoona, Pa
Such beautiful locomotives. It is such a shame that no real GG1's are currently operational.
Great video Eric! I believe that maxrailroad has a video of the Lionel VL GG1 on a catenary setup.
Great video.
41:50 the sound it could be from? possibly the traction motors!
Yes
what's the green shorter-gg1-like engine in the presentation screen?
another awesome video! i was wondering, when you do the passenger car video for the gg1's could you show us the interior lighting stuff? im sure its not easy to get with a camera but love to see details like that. this video was worth the wait regardless!
Which button on the Legacy remote do you press for the startup sequence?
Are there any models out there with work over head power cables ??
The first GG1 I've seen is PRR #4890 at the National Railroad Museum in Green Bay, Wisconsin.
Nice video. How come your center section of your legacy remotes touch pad is only showing half of whats displayed on it?
“Roger, Roger.” “Clearance, Clarence.” “Over, Over.” “Huh?”
the running sound (rpm up/down) is a simulation of the traction motors pulling power
Hi Eric You need a small fashlight to black parts
what was the security bars for
Very well done video :D
Love driving this thing in TS.
That is a beautiful engine
That’s an amazing engine if only things with this quality did not cost about 500-100 bucks I would by a t1-4444 duplex if I had the money great review and nice engine by the way