Very nice locomotive. A great addition to your collection! NYC had some beautiful locomotives. Great review video. Thanks for letting us experience it with you.
Ive been watching Erics reviews for quite a while and I thought he had to have a script or something. I happened to catch him shooting a video on his webcam last night and after watch him shoot the video, I have a new level of respect for the patience and effort he puts into his videos. He truly does a great job! Keep the videos coming Eric!
The realistic train whistle brought back memories of listening to the trains leaving the marshaling yards at the back of our house when I was about 5 or 6. My brother and I would listen to the steam engines at bed time and it was a rather mournful sound almost as if the engines were lamenting their fate as the diesels made them obsolete.
AWESOME review Eric! While I love everything about O-gauge model railroading it's the Vision Line that really keeps the hobby exciting! Love it! Thanks bud!
I have a Niagara too the LCCA (Lionel Collectors Club of America) NYC VisionLine Niagara with the road number of 6019 and its one of my favorite engines.
Hey Eric, you did not mention the wheel slippage effect. It was not in the manual, but there are at least 2 other TH-camrs that have posted a video on it so I haven't bothered to post one. From a stand still, dial up the throttle a bit, but keep the break leaver all the way down. Slide the break leaver all way up quickly and you will hear the wheel slippage. Your engine will also take off quick, so there is a fine line between the throttle being up too far, and down to low. It takes a little practice, but it is fun.
Eric; I normally won't leave a commet on your reviews but I am still in the process of being blown away. Thank you for, as always, a great review and roll-by's.
Surprised you didn't go for the grey version. Fantastic review of an equally fantastic model - I think this is one of Lionel's best personally! Looks right at home on your amazing layout!
I can't tell you how long I've been waiting for you to do a review on this engine great video in my opinion the best feature would probably be the water scoop steam effect but that's just my opinion I hope you get the next remake of the j3a Hudson that's also to have new features
I just have to note/find funny. They got so many details right, so many cool features, and somehow. They got the whistle wrong. The Niagara’s did not wear the 6 chimes the Hudson’s and Mohawks wore. They wore Hancock 3 chime long bells similar to that of the UP whistles. Not the make or break feature but still noticeable.
Great engine and review! Th only thing I would have liked to see is some HEAVY smoke pouring from that stack. Lionel's sounds and detailed look of the vision engines really are incredible, and for a big steam locomotive with big sounds, the thick smoke just completes the package for me.
Thanks for an interesting review of another one of my favorite steam locomotives. If I may further enhance your history portion the Niagaras were the next design level after fitting 2 L4b Mohawks (3144 & 3148) with Timken roller bearing rods and enhancing their tenders with a cistern behind the coal slope sheet and a highly modified water scoop for more efficient high speed water pickup. You have the last NYC L4b Mohawk cab no. 3149 in your collection. Even the L4b's had reached their maximum performance and Paul Kiefer's Niagara became the pen ultimate 4-8-4 ever built. Lionel has done a good job replicating the engine though I would prefer to see a less garish silver graphite on the smokebox. Lionel neglected to model the Automatic Train Stop shoe which fastened underneath the rear journal on the tender swing truck on the engineers side. This also resulted in the first overflow pipe being eliminated due to its spray icing up the shoe during wintertime running. The safety pop off valve ( not poppet valve) steam effect is well done as is the whistle steam effect. However, the tender overflow effect just doesn't cut it in my opinion. But, each to their own. Your new Niagara would look great pulling your streamlined Empire State Express passenger train. Thanks again for all your hard work and I am looking forward to your next review.
Very nice review. I purchased a #6013 and it is spectacular. Eric, a lot of us don’t have a large layout like you, please do another video of this engine running like they did at about 100mph. Although I bought one I cannot do it justice on my small loop of track. In the 50’s these Niagara’s were used on the Empire State express. Maybe you can use your Empire State cars........
Just saying, the coupler force effect has been around for years in the realm of DCC. Back EMF (Back Electromotive Force) is an automatic function of the decoder to sense how hard the locomotive is working by monitoring the electrical loads on the decoder. Depending on what it senses it will play the appropriate sounds for a locomotive running light, pulling a long heavy train up a steep grade, and everything in-between.
@ERIC's TRAINS - WOULD be so kind as to do a SIDE BY SIDE COMPARISON on the FEATURES & DETAILS between the: MTH 4-8-4 NY Central Niagara vs the LIONEL Vision Line Niagara (I can't decide which one to buy)
Having a visual effect to simulate the water scoop picking up water from a water trough is great. But it shouldn't have been done with smoke, it doesn't look realistic and it's too gimmicky that only drives up the price. If anything, Lionel should've put a flickering blue light under the tender to simulate the water scoop effect that way. Smoke lingers and its apparent in this video. Water is more discrete where it sprays then it attaches itself to a solid object.
So I had a question I recently bought the MTH Union Pacific Diesel Freight Set and the voice lines for it kinda sounded like you by any chance did you happen to voice it?
I'd really like to see you do a video on the best budget sets, locomotives and maybe even rolling stock for the beginners or those on a budget that want to get into O Gauge trains.
Man I just picked up the grey version of this engine mostly because of this review. As well as with a lot of stuff I have I always check to see if you've reviewed it before buying. Thanks for the reviews Eric. It means a lot to me as a hobbiest on a budget to be able to make purchases I'm truly happy with thanks to these reviews. Any chance you'll be getting the re-release of the Challenger? I ordered one in the Greyhound scheme. It'll go nice with the black MTH Premier version I own.
This is an awesome engine, and you did a great review. BTW, have you been weathering some of your rolling stock lately? A lot more weathered cars than earlier videos. They look good!!
They shouldn’t have scrapped all the Niagara and Hudson locomotives
At least we're getting that NYC Hudson replica.
@@FutureRailProductions they did not get a nuf mony
@@jimmy6039 You're kidding? Well that sucks.
There's what is left of a tender from a Hudson up at steamtown... it was converted to a steam generator car though.
I hope that one day they can find the plans for the niagara and the Hudson so new working ones can be built by fans.
19:55 That “water” should really help those flowers grow so they are healthy and beautiful for a long time lol
always a great feeling seeing a new vid come up on my notifications!
Wow, that is a beautiful model steam locomotive! It's this kind of attention to detail that keeps me loyal to O-gauge trains despite their high cost.
Looks great Eric, The water scoop spray effect was pretty neat.
Wow! What a beautiful engine. LIONEL sure did a good job with it. Thank you for sharing.
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I had a mental seizure when I heard the price, but that's just me
I wasn't super excited about this engine until I watched your review. That's an amazing model! Great job Eric!
Very nice locomotive.
A great addition to your collection!
NYC had some beautiful locomotives.
Great review video. Thanks for letting us experience it with you.
Ive been watching Erics reviews for quite a while and I thought he had to have a script or something. I happened to catch him shooting a video on his webcam last night and after watch him shoot the video, I have a new level of respect for the patience and effort he puts into his videos. He truly does a great job! Keep the videos coming Eric!
Niagaras are my favorite NYC locomotive
I prefer mohawks
For me it's 3 way tie between the Niagra, the Dreyfuss streallined Hudson, and the A2 class Berkshire.@@thegamingrhino5864
I also like the niagaras
Why is the frickin Niagara your fave out of all the locos of the NYC.
The realistic train whistle brought back memories of listening to the trains leaving the marshaling yards at the back of our house when I was about 5 or 6. My brother and I would listen to the steam engines at bed time and it was a rather mournful sound almost as if the engines were lamenting their fate as the diesels made them obsolete.
When I was down in Atlanta for training with Norfolk Southern I stopped at legacy station and got a demo of this engine. Beautiful piece.
AWESOME review Eric! While I love everything about O-gauge model railroading it's the Vision Line that really keeps the hobby exciting! Love it! Thanks bud!
Thanks Eric another great video ! I love how you run engines and cars from different eras on your layout.
I have a Niagara too the LCCA (Lionel Collectors Club of America) NYC VisionLine Niagara with the road number of 6019 and its one of my favorite engines.
Very informative review of the model and the real train itself, great!!!
This thing just looks beautiful gliding down the tracks
Hands-down the best Lionel steam locomotive. Thanks for the review.
Great Loco thinking of getting one soon
That water scoop spray effect is amazing:)
Hey Eric, you did not mention the wheel slippage effect. It was not in the manual, but there are at least 2 other TH-camrs that have posted a video on it so I haven't bothered to post one. From a stand still, dial up the throttle a bit, but keep the break leaver all the way down. Slide the break leaver all way up quickly and you will hear the wheel slippage. Your engine will also take off quick, so there is a fine line between the throttle being up too far, and down to low. It takes a little practice, but it is fun.
Eric; I normally won't leave a commet on your reviews but I am still in the process of being blown away. Thank you for, as always, a great review and roll-by's.
The Niagara has always been my favorite big steam locomotive
I'm not in this hobby at all,but I can't wait for new video. Seriously cool model.
Surprised you didn't go for the grey version. Fantastic review of an equally fantastic model - I think this is one of Lionel's best personally! Looks right at home on your amazing layout!
Beautiful locomotive and like always awesome video Eric
I Love the Niagara! It's my All Time Favorite Steam Locomotive in the New York Central System!
Always enjoy watching your videos, can't wait for the next one.....
That tender water overflow effect is very cool!
Great review & operation video.
Gorgeous engine. Looks right, sounds right. Thank you. 👍👍😎
Awesome locomotive and nice review the poppet valves and water scope steam are amazing and it has a nice whistle
Poppet?
Beautiful loco and massive
Great video as always Eric.
Great video as always, beautiful locomotive.
I can't tell you how long I've been waiting for you to do a review on this engine great video in my opinion the best feature would probably be the water scoop steam effect but that's just my opinion I hope you get the next remake of the j3a Hudson that's also to have new features
One word....... AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you need to film it along with the Dreyfuss Hudson at the same time
I just have to note/find funny. They got so many details right, so many cool features, and somehow. They got the whistle wrong. The Niagara’s did not wear the 6 chimes the Hudson’s and Mohawks wore. They wore Hancock 3 chime long bells similar to that of the UP whistles. Not the make or break feature but still noticeable.
That water scoop and relief valves are a great feature!
Love the Bell on it
And the horn is cool too
I know these are not cheap but this is one of the best iconic engines with the best features for the money!
Beautiful
Great engine and review! Th only thing I would have liked to see is some HEAVY smoke pouring from that stack. Lionel's sounds and detailed look of the vision engines really are incredible, and for a big steam locomotive with big sounds, the thick smoke just completes the package for me.
Thanks for an interesting review of another one of my favorite steam locomotives. If I may further enhance your history portion the Niagaras were the next design level after fitting 2 L4b Mohawks (3144 & 3148) with Timken roller bearing rods and enhancing their tenders with a cistern behind the coal slope sheet and a highly modified water scoop for more efficient high speed water pickup. You have the last NYC L4b Mohawk cab no. 3149 in your collection. Even the L4b's had reached their maximum performance and Paul Kiefer's Niagara became the pen ultimate 4-8-4 ever built. Lionel has done a good job replicating the engine though I would prefer to see a less garish silver graphite on the smokebox. Lionel neglected to model the Automatic Train Stop shoe which fastened underneath the rear journal on the tender swing truck on the engineers side. This also resulted in the first overflow pipe being eliminated due to its spray icing up the shoe during wintertime running. The safety pop off valve ( not poppet valve) steam effect is well done as is the whistle steam effect. However, the tender overflow effect just doesn't cut it in my opinion. But, each to their own. Your new Niagara would look great pulling your streamlined Empire State Express passenger train. Thanks again for all your hard work and I am looking forward to your next review.
This is really cool. I like it a lot.
That is a beautyful locomotive
Vary cool!!! Thanks.
great video....very lifelike...you did a good job with the angles/position of the video camera...kudos....
Great video Eric of a great locomotive.
13:51 beautiful whistle
The whistle is a Southern Pacific 4449 back when it had a 6 chime
Excellent review as always Eric!!
Cool locomotive 🚂
It looks really good.
Great video as always!
Great video Norm
Very nice review. I purchased a #6013 and it is spectacular. Eric, a lot of us don’t have a large layout like you, please do another video of this engine running like they did at about 100mph. Although I bought one I cannot do it justice on my small loop of track. In the 50’s these Niagara’s were used on the Empire State express. Maybe you can use your Empire State cars........
That is a thing of beauty.
Great review
Nice! I like the tender water spray effect. Thanks Eric, a great video and I also enjoy your column in ctt. Stay AWSOME my friend!
Thanks for the Vid Eric! Great looking locomotive. I’m surprised this one can handle o54 curves.
Awesome review of an Awesome engine!
Love your vids and this loco
Sweet! You have a Niagara too!
The most Handsome locomotives every built.
Great video Eric.
Been waiting for this one! WOW ! THANKS! Fantastic
That is an awesome machine. Almost makes me want to switch to O scale.
Nice Eric. Cheers.
Excellent! Thanks Eric.. :)
Now it is time to get the Vision Line NYC Streamlined Baggage Car and set to run behind this beauty. Love my VL NYC Baggage car as well
Yeah, I've got one too.
I got one and love it! Only other engine i really want is that MTH Chessie that has the charging lights on it!
Love the weathered rolling stock
I agree they look so good didn’t Eric do an amazing job!
That bell is perfect
Eric this locomotive aslo has a wheelsleep efect go see some tutorials about this sound effect 😀
Hey eric just wanted to say hi and hopefully you have a great weekend.
Man My grandfather worked
With those specific NYC engines
The 4-8-4 is my favorite type of steam locomotive.
Beautiful engine my brother excellent show
Just saying, the coupler force effect has been around for years in the realm of DCC. Back EMF (Back Electromotive Force) is an automatic function of the decoder to sense how hard the locomotive is working by monitoring the electrical loads on the decoder. Depending on what it senses it will play the appropriate sounds for a locomotive running light, pulling a long heavy train up a steep grade, and everything in-between.
Wish I could afford one but this a hell of a nice model.
@ERIC's TRAINS - WOULD be so kind as to do a SIDE BY SIDE COMPARISON on the FEATURES & DETAILS between the:
MTH 4-8-4 NY Central Niagara vs the LIONEL Vision Line Niagara
(I can't decide which one to buy)
Love this engine
I love this train
Having a visual effect to simulate the water scoop picking up water from a water trough is great. But it shouldn't have been done with smoke, it doesn't look realistic and it's too gimmicky that only drives up the price. If anything, Lionel should've put a flickering blue light under the tender to simulate the water scoop effect that way. Smoke lingers and its apparent in this video. Water is more discrete where it sprays then it attaches itself to a solid object.
I love the Niagara in any scale
The hudson and Niagara those engines are awsome
Gorgeous piece of work. Size DOES matter. )
So I had a question I recently bought the MTH Union Pacific Diesel Freight Set and the voice lines for it kinda sounded like you by any chance did you happen to voice it?
I'd really like to see you do a video on the best budget sets, locomotives and maybe even rolling stock for the beginners or those on a budget that want to get into O Gauge trains.
I do those from time to time, in fact the next review is on a starter set.
I think the closest surviving example of this engine is the South African Railways red devil locomotive
I'd think UP 844 would be closest.
what a grate locomotive.
Man I just picked up the grey version of this engine mostly because of this review. As well as with a lot of stuff I have I always check to see if you've reviewed it before buying. Thanks for the reviews Eric. It means a lot to me as a hobbiest on a budget to be able to make purchases I'm truly happy with thanks to these reviews. Any chance you'll be getting the re-release of the Challenger? I ordered one in the Greyhound scheme. It'll go nice with the black MTH Premier version I own.
Increased size of speakers goes a long ways!
gotta love em
Is it just me or does anyone else think that Eric has the best layout
Nice train
This is an awesome engine, and you did a great review. BTW, have you been weathering some of your rolling stock lately? A lot more weathered cars than earlier videos. They look good!!
nice video and i wish the niagara were preserved