Also, her C4 grants the 30% Energy Recharge buff if the character has less than 50% energy, not if they have above 50% HP, so both healing bonus and ER buffs can coexist
"Who needs another Electro healer when we already have Kuki?" at the beginning... Only for Kuki to be featured on the banner immediately after Dori came back 💀
@@Vickiraytive I only started this month, but I pulled Dori. I haven't even built her yet since I can't capitalize on her reactions, but I'm already a hard Dori fan 😤🫡
Dori +Jean creates an AoE electro swirl around the active character every second. Kuki's is only AoE electro dmg every 1.5 seconds. Hyperbloom Dori > Kuki Aggravate Dori >>> Kuki I say this as a Kuki enjoyer who had her full EM lv90 before Dendro existed
2:09 THANK *GOD* YOU SAID THAT People are TOO QUICK to throw her into the "children box", just because she has that model. I am 100% sure without a shadow of a doubt she's literally a short old lady. Not a "granny" like faruzan (yes, she's a human that lived for a long time, but her body hasn't aged that much), but an *actual* old woman (or at least middle-aged)
I think it's a problem with lack of variety of genshin models + hoyo don't seem to want to put wrinkles on characters or make them appear older so we have charas like faru or citlali now or Dori. The only old looking character they made are in fatui and we don't know if they will be ever playable
Yeah, I'm not arguing her height, voice pitch or even the fact that she walks, runs and moves with no problem. My main point against this idea that Dori is a normal old lady is her face. You can have a baby face at your 20s, MAYBE even your 30s. First half at least. But not when you're middle aged, let alone old. Even if she talked about using creams and stuff (which she doesn't), no amount of skin care would accomplish that at a high age, like come on. 😂
I cackled when you said someone stole your mora. Me too. Me too 😢 I LOVE the four star build videos, especially those who don't get enough love. Dori was my first electro in my hyperbloom teams.
YES !!! FINALLY DORI APPRECIATION! you're now my favorite genshin CC 🤧 I personally use Dori as the ultimate battery by extrapolation on her built in regen. Hear me out: C4 + level 12 burst + exile set + R5 fav. (Build with 230% ER herself) Like.. the Regen there is INSANE.
Extra: Dori's Electro application to the on field character solves the swirling issue in Nahida teams. Yes, Kazuha and Jean can finally swirl Electro just fine even if Nahida's skill is on. Edit: Forgot to say, Xilonen also works with Dori! And in case you're using Kazuha, and you want to swirl Dori's burst while Nahida's skill is on, you need to either use Kazuha's hold skill or burst. Tap skil will very likely not swirl. PLUS, Dori is one of the best (if not the best) Song Of Days Past set user.
I never knew this!!! Thank you so much because it's annoying when you can't swirl with kazuha or crystallized with xilonen but you also need nahida's reliable application
Dori has always been one of those characters i wanted to build. However, I always had someone else to focus on. Sacrificial greatsword is an amazing weapon for her thanks to how many times her skill hits enemies, resulting in the effect being very consistent even in low refinements. I might go around to building her after im done with furina, freminet, lynette, and layla.
Small tidbit about her personality and the "Conflicting" aspect of it, she never wants her or her loved ones to suffer for a lack of money, her LOVED ONES, she uses Kaveh's big heart against him because it means she will have more mora. She is kinda uncaring about others inequality because her family and friends just simply matter more to her. (idk if there are any outliers of this ideology but idk)
She actually didn't. A lot of people point to her scamming Kaveh into building her mansion, but she actually demanded he stop when it was destroyed, but his ego insisted on completing the project.
@@SaiyanGamer95 Nope. Her mansion was a scam. She just felt bad after things got too complicated and offered him a way out. Kaveh didn't take it, you're right, that's on him. But she doesn't feel much remorse about it, which is why she scammed him AGAIN.
Seeing how strong her healing is with an EM build, I'm definitely gonna give her a chance... I like Kuki, but often find myself bringing a second healer to her hyperbloom teams (e.g. Kokomi) even when I'd prefer other options, because against really strong enemies Kuki's healing alone isn't quite enough. Dori might make those teams a lot more viable!
Swapping one of Kuki's artifacts to HP or healing bonus doesn't lower her damage all that much (at least if you get any EM rolls in substats) and it noticeably increases her healing. HP rolls on the EM pieces also help. Combine that with any sort of damage reduction (like Xingqiu or Beidou) and it's usually enough even against hard hitting enemies, unless you're using Furina.
@@alexprus7953 I actually have her on a Healing Bonus circlet, apparently. I also have a Key of Khaj Nisut but no Nilou ...but that belongs to Layla 😆 Could have an absolutely cracked Kuki if I really wanted to I guess!
Indeed! Now that Hu Tao's about to rerun I've seen far too many people imply she's "useless" and not worht pulling just because arlechino is stronger 🤦
Thats not why people don't like or play those like dori . Her personality sucks. I don't care about meta . I use alot of four stars to . Dori isn't one of them because her character is cruel
@@AyatosBobas There are definitely a lot of palyers who won't play her because they believe she's "bad"! I also dismissed her due to her personality, but got curious because her kit surprised me (positively)! that sasid, it's a-ok to not like a character, and also to not play a characetr you don't like :)
Oh random but so looking forward to videos on Gaming, Clorinde, Kaveh (poor baby, I adore him yet it’s basically pointless, hardly able to save him but I wish I could play him!), Mona, Fischl, Xianyun, Xingqiu, and other more obscure or forgotten ones (let’s say like Yun Jin, Yan Fei, Sethos, etc that seem to not be used or appreciated) - well everyone eventually of course! Your character reviews are so useful, thoughtful, technical, and yet to the heart of the character which is so rare so really appreciate and enjoy your format and analysis style that incorporates lore, technicality, and far more substance than a vast majority of reviews I have found. Really enjoy your work,it makes me rediscover or develop appreciate for characters, play styles, and team utilities- keep it up!
Thank you so much! 💜 I take the time to get to know a character the best I can (both lore and kit wise) which is why these videos take a little longer to emerge, but we'll get to all of them eventually 🥰
I was there for the stream where you brought your Dori out as a "joke"!! I had such a blast, it was my first one and I wanted to thank you again for being so welcoming and kind!! I'm really looking forward to the next stream I can attend, and in the meantime I'll be watching all your character reviews!! - Seren Mist (P.S. HOW CUTE WAS THE EVENT CUTSCENE ;w;)
I do enjoy Dori, she brings an important dose of gremlin energy. I remember when starting out the game I liked to build characters from the region when I reached it, so Dori stuck with me a fair bit through Sumeru - though I didnt fully build her still, which shows in her leftover 4* artifacts because I didnt get a matching stat. I still am a bit torn how to build her and this review makes me want to change up things again! (also her c1 doesnt give You an extra cast of her skill, just an extra bullet)
What a surprise! I got her C6 in Xilonen's banner and am excited to build her up. After looking around for some modern build recommendations and finding none, I put that project on the back burner, but now thanks to your video I feel equipped. Time to farm the electro regisvine...
at ar 60 i have a lot of freedom to what i can do, so i decided to build every character i own. i also was really suprised by the dori performance and right now, she is inexchengable character for my xiao team
I mainly use my Dori on my Tighnari and Yae team. I also have her on Deep Wood and Sac Sword for role consolidation. Arguably one of my most efficient energy teams.
Very interesting ill need to give dori a chance and build her, i believe i have her at c6. I really like kuki but one of my biggest gripes with her is how she looses a good chunk of health every time she uses her skill
i actually dont hate her i just wish she had one single character trait/voiceline that didnt involve money/greed bc i thought she was pretty funny in the event
"Someone seems to have stolen my mora" 😆👏👏👏 I really enjoy Dori's design and overall aesthetic vibe. I remember how different she felt/looked when she first released, and despite not falling in love with her character/voice right away, I needed her. I'm really glad I got her, she's kinda a "sleeper" character, and she's quite flexible both in build and teams. I'm one of those that's always hoping people will give characters like her, and other "useless" characters, an actual chance. 💜
Definitely going to test out whether I prefer Kuki or Dori when I pull Nahida tomorrow. Kuki seems like the better option in a lot of ways, but I can't say I'm a fan of the idea of my healer getting sniped at low HP....also I love Dori's design, it's so unique and funny to me!
Thank you for saving Dori! I enjoyed her myself on random coop and tend to carry the heals without issues. You're right about the energy recharge to be misleading and a lower recharge is quite right for her.
I practically main C6 Dori as a dps and she is a really REALLY good on field dps. She offers something no other character provides and that is role consolidation. She can be a healer, dps, electro applicator and battery all in one and at C6 her electro application triples which makes her even stronger as a dps and with her consolidation she allows you to run an additional off field dps on the team. So while Dori herself is not doing as much damage as a dedicated dps, she is more then making up for it by just bringing another one along for the ride. Even better at C6 is that you can completely forego ER stats. I have 0 ER in my build and she gets burst off cooldown, that should tell you how negligible her ER problems really are. Thundering Fury is her best and only set for dps, though. Mare, even completely active, does not make up for the downtime Dori would have without TF. If you want dps, you always go TF on her. The thing about Dori dps is that she also has unusually high multipliers when you look at them. At C6 her burst goes up to over a 1100% multiplier and her basic attacks are some of the highest in the game...they're higher then Hu Tao, who is a dedicated dps. Her skill is no slouch either with it's over 400% and proccing two reactions per use at C1. And this is all when she was released...she has only gotten better with time with characters like Furina who takes advantage of everything in Dori's kit. As you said, she heals so much at base that she keeps the entire team at full hp during a rotation without even building into HP for healing. Even her self electro infusion is useful because characters like Kazuha and Jean swirl off themselves, so it makes it extremely easy to swirl the correct element for your VV shred. Nahida users will love this as her dendro application overriding everything doesn't matter. All of this is why Dori is just one of my favorite characters to play. It's helps to that I love her personality as well. Her JP voice actor is incredibly unhinged and it is truly the best thing you will ever hear.
I really do not get how people just get so negative with her , OK so she's a greedy merchant alright but still a lovable character and the back story is yet to be exploited for future story quest , actually like her antics , she's one of the more fun one to play with
I keep hearing people say she's bad. But when I tried her in Sethos team, I was surprised to see how good her healing was. Not sure why people were hating her, probably because of her personality?
Heh, chill team. Well now I guess I have to build my C6 Dori 😎 I vaguely remember getting loads of Doris on her debut banner, though I don't recall why I was wishing on it lol
people underrate Kinich and Emilie burning overload spread teams, that's where I fit my Dori, they just need some burning going in and out for the damage boost from it happening, you can still proc reactions with electro instead of limiting them to do pure dendro damage for even greater numbers since they are not burning dps, they just do more dps if burning happens frequently enough
I have a fully built C6 Dori and she’s great. I love using her in trounce co-op, but I get so angry when someone inevitably silently swaps to Furina lol. I promise I can keep you all healed with my 100% burst uptime.
I went from having 0 Doris to having c6 Dori this banner. Good timing on this one, as I haven't really been wanting to build my Kuki, despite standard banner throwing me 3 copies since I started playing.
@@TheArtPaige Do you have a resin-efficient domain to recommend for someone who has only been playing half a year? I despise artifact farming T.T Feels bad to go for something Dori specific if the other set isn't good
@@Vickiraytive Try her with Jean Farm any efficient artifact domain and strongbox thundering fury for her. It's her best set because she benefits all electro reactions already. Just EM and ER is fine
I got Dori back in 3.0. She was, in fact, one of the first characters that I pre-farmed in the game. I really loved her design back in the day, and her personality was very appealing to me (it was refreshing having a character who wasn't a saint but instead a greedy gremlin because of how the world treated her and her sister). I use her with Fischl, Nahida, and Xilonen for Aggravate (or Furina for blooms and quickens).
Amazing analysis and love the refreshing insight and usefulness! However regardless of potential, I just DESPISE her character, attitude, voice, everything! I wish I could be unbiased but I can’t stand her! I felt you summarized it best, she feels very shallow, underdeveloped, and rather annoying. I like the idea of her as a feisty scheming middle aged woman though. Really neat to see you’ve found uses for her
Dori main here. I have 36*ed abyss with her since her release (missed like 3 abyss phases due to irl stuff) Her best teammates are Nahida, Fischl, and Jean (Kazuha too I guess) Her unique synergy with Anemo is what makes her go from below average to incredible. She can guarantee Kazuha and Sucrose swirl electro, consistently buffing units like Fischl. If you pair her with Jean you are able to get AoE electro reactions every second for the duration of their bursts. In abyss with her best teammates (c0 r0 5* teammates btw) she can clear between 60 seconds to 90 seconds. I bet the clear speeds go way down if you have Nahida constellations but I need to avoid stuff like that to prove my point against the haters.
I run this team w/ Kazuha and Sac Gsword / Thundering Fury on Dori. She spams her skill so often that she almost never has energy problems and allowed me to run more offensive weapons on my Kazuha because of the lamp battery instead of Favonius.
I don't really have much to say except thank you! ❤ I think Dori brings a lot to the table, as a character to play and with her personality. Although I feel for Kaveh, it is nice to have an antagonistic character like her. And it's not an NPC who we never see again (much like some people's story quests). It gives much more depth to some parts of this game which doesn't often do dives into the darker sides of what's going on with people in Teyvat. Although we are moving in a direction that's promising. I badly want to finish her build now but it'll probably take a while. Thank you for rekindling my appreciation for her and great work with the video 🥰
THANK YOU FOR THIS! I got Dori when i first started playing and used her for my earlygame overworld team simply because i really needed someone with a claimore for mining and also her being electro+heal was a nice side effect. Ever since then she was one of my main healers and now that i C6ed her, she is my hyperbloom Nuke! I know that there are more meta teams around but her playstyle is just so much fun!
Hold up, Dori's lamp is basically a Dispenser from Team Fortress 2! you plop it down and it will recharge people or heal them if they place near it, with the added bonus of also dealing damage to enemies. Once again, a 4* character with a neat ability that most people pass over because it doesn't do the same thing as the most popular option, in this case Kuki giving Off field application on your DPS like an Electro version of Xinqiu(oh wow, stacking auras is so skill intensive amirite?)
I mean the issue is that you need to be near it for the effects ( effectively playing circle impact something people don’t like normally) compared to that to XQ and Kuki who give you heals, dmg reduction, off field electro or hydro for hyper bloom, on top of adding dmg to the team. Nowadays if you’re a healer you either gotta have really good healing and application or it’s not worth using
@@amari7782 Dori has both if you pair her with Jean or Kazuha. Electro every second unlike Kuki's 1.5 second application speed. Even the most annoying mobile enemies in this game will get shredded with that electro application
She is amazing at co-ops, mainly with the Instructor's set. It is funny, in hyperbloom team co-ops, after I do my burst, I start runnings around every enemy, triggering the hyperbloom. Often, other players start doing the same when they understand what I am doing. Dori's lines are amidst the funniest in the game.
YO WTF like i love how people can have these twinning thoughts twinning ideas moments The other day a comment mentioned your channel under my post, regarding genshin’s meta state and how newbies and players in general should focus on enjoying the game and play w their favs (and there will be ways for their fav to remain in the meta, in a different way, a different position) Now this like i’ve always wondered if we can have a second Kuki We already have the legendary NaXingKu my take is BaiFuRi Baizhu Furina Dori And both of these team can be paired with a Pyro on fielder to trigger all kind of Shenanigans (namely Hutao; and coming up will be Dehya and Mavuika on 2 sides being the tanks they are) Love the work Gotta pay attention and respect to The Great Sangemah Bay Merchant.
Thank you for this video 🙏 I’m genuinely gonna build my Dori after I finish leveling my new Chiori ❤ (my account is at a stage where I can put a lot of resources to non meta things without any consequences haha)
I suspect the answer to the question of why know one bothered to find out how Dori is a good electro healer, but they did discover Kuki’s healing and electro utility - is going to basically boil down to : Kuki’s hotpants.
tbh her build is best when you use sac greatsword and full em on her,, i posted a floor 12 clear earlier which is miles better than someone like cyno before but i think i privated it😭
I've never thought she's useless. Quite the opposite, actually. I just find her irritating. Though, after seeing this video, maybe I'll put my bias aside and try her out sometime. Great job on this video!
I love using teams of Dori + hydro pyro and dendro xD It is such a reaction mess you don't know what happens but enemies die haha Benny actually has great synergy with her given that he's applying pyro while she's applying electro. This causes overloads on the character without the need to even attack. Overload has an AoE meaning it still deals damage to enemies as well, even when they're currently being electro charged for example (since the reaction originates from the char, no need for pyro electro to directly be on the enemy) Soluna has made a video about this at some point and showcased it there
I've had Dori built with thundering fury for a while now (with full EM plus some crit, because I keep getting TF pieces with both EM and crit). I find her best in quickbloom, with Nahida, Fischl, and Furina, since the whole team is dealing decent talent + reaction damage. I feel like she really needs TF though, since the skill cooldown reduction makes her c6 normal attack heals sooo much more useful... (and they trigger oz's attacks more)
For me she fills just the right niche, especially at C6. When playing furina in a hyperbloom team you need double hydro to maximize the bloom procs with nahihi which means your last slot has to be an electro team-wide healer
I love my C6 Dori. Since in 5.2, Superconduct, Electro-charged, Overload and Shatter are getting a buff, Dori’s rainbow team is going to be useful, not forgetting that Dori uses claymore (can do shatter).
Dori's look reminds me of old pictures from the late 60s and early 70s. Just awful 😂. I built her with high HP, ER, and EM Thundering Fury with the Chainsaw Claymore. I use her in the Abyss with Fischl, Neuvillette, and Furina whenever they have Pyro Lecters. The shields fall on both in less than 15 seconds. Other than that, she collects dust.
I've been using her with Songs of Days Past with Archiac Petra Yun Jin - with Clorinde and Collei - and it feels very comfortable as a buffer-oriented comp. She can make use of these artifacts well...
Indeed good point - I didn't really consider any HP weapons in retrospect, otherwise I shoudl've probably given an honorary mention to the Bell too heh😅
I actually like Dori, her personality and design, but i still don't really use her just because i have Baizhu and Kokomi, so if i need a healer for dendro teams i just slot one of them in. i did get her c6 recently so i have been thinking about using her as a dps, thundering fury does sound fun for that but i also don't have any good sets from it.
i'm really interested in dori teams at c6, but personally, i don't see much value in her before then, as i have c2 kuki and i find dori to be quite inconsistent as an off field hyperbloom trigger. i feel like she's in a position where she's noticeably worse than another option, kuki, in one of her best teams, and given they're similarly accessible, being a worse option makes her feel a lot worse to use, regardless of the actual difference. also, surprised you didnt bring up her interaction with jean!
while watching the video I felt as if you were taking the words out of my mouth. ive been saying since forever that the comparison between dori and kuki is very small but people still refuse to accept the facts and keep believing dori to be a downgrade in every way. Its specially ridiculous when tier lists have her at like F tier while kuki is at S tier when in reality they arent that far apart. great video 👍
For me healers need to do more than just heal to earn a party slot. If all they did was heal I got another option that can do more and they would be choosen instead. For Dori she does heal a lot but what else she does is not obvious to players and that gives rise to the belief that she is bad. Kuki has a large area electro application that makes it obvious that she works on hyperbloom and that her healing has EM scaling too. For me I discovered a niche use for her that convinced me to build her as only she can fill this role ingame. Take a team of Yae Miko, Nahida, Fischl, Kazuha. Once Nahida E skill is on enemy it is near impossible to get electro aura on enemy which makes getting electro swirls near impossible to get. Swap Fischl with Dori and as expected you get the comfort of heals BUT her burst applies electro to the active character directly. Not only does that act as an elemental cleanse but Kazuha can swirl that electro on him when Nahida is blocking it from the enemy and he still gets his electro swirls. Dori literally bypasses the OP Nahida problem in that specific team. My Dori does also heal a massive amount too, if my character is under 50% HP the burst tick is 11.8k HP. I also use Sac greatsword on her so all I do is E-Q-E-swap so she doesnt take that much field time even so she isnt taking too much time away from the rest of the party. Also now with the adition of Imaginarium Theatre there is more reason to build your less used characters now so you can fill out a larger roster and do better in that game mode.
I calculated the healers' maximum healing potential once out of curiosity and Dori turned iut to have the highest healing per tick. (This is before Xilonen and I don't know about her healing). In ideal scenarios like having
People in the community sometimes label characters as one-sided like Jean, Ganyu, Keqing, etc. (funny that they're ALL women, right?? but that's another conversation entirely so let's leave it at that) and they're wrong, there's so much more to them. I'd link a twitter thread talking about it but TH-cam doesn't like links so... 🤷 Anyway, what I'm trying to get at here is that Dori is perhaps the only character in the game who actually IS one-sided. Her personality revolves around one thing and one thing only. I have all my characters at friendship level 10 and, I kid you not, EVERY. SINGLE. VOICE NOTE OF HERS. IS ABOUT MORA. No other character is like that, omfg (at least from the ones I have and I have +60). At some point her character stories explain why she's obsessed with it but it's still super annoying and I *hate* how she takes advantage of her status. Like, take the current event for example. She wanted to charge 200k mora for something that would cost her 10k. Obviously you need to charge higher than it costs you so you gain money but this is ridiculous. Especially when she acts as if she's doing you this huuuuuge favour. 🙄 Despicable. Now that I got all that out, yeah, as usual, kit wise she's not as useless as some people paint her as. I personally built her for hyperbloom but specifically to use with Jean and have like an electro Sunfire team. Still need to build Jean but yeah, should be fun. 😂
She reslly is a bit of a charicature even if you dive deeper, and also while her tragic past might explain her priorities, and why she's the way she is, it doesn't excuse treating others poorly or taking advantage of them!
What's interesting is how certain people treat everything she does so seriously when the writing team clearly intended her antics to be humorous. You don't see this much hate for similarly written characters like Nicole , Herrscher of Sentience and Yae Miko. Another conversation could be had about Dori being singled out but whatever. You have characters do "heartless" things for humor all the time in this game. The big example is how Itto used his gang's hard earned money. "Ugh, you really are a bull-chucker! You extorted 80 grand from your gang members and didn't pay a single Mora yourself!" (The joke is paid 10k so he did contribute) She's meant to be the comedic villain whose schemes fail right in front of us for entertainment. Her personality is all about mora and extravagance because she's meant to contrast Kaveh and Alhaitham's philosophies.
@@Jinni-iras17514 I don't play HI3rd so I don't know this Nicole, but Yae also bothers me. XD Poor Gorou. :'c The difference between characters like Itto is that they do it seldom *and* they usually suffer some kind or consequence because of it. Even if that consequence is just scolding or a lecture. Whereas Dori is like that literally 24/7 and karma evades her. 🤷 For the record, she's not the only character whose personality I really dislike. I've already mentioned Yae. Childe exists. Etc. Also, being mean is never funny to me unless it's done to a mean character so, "It's meant to be a joke!1!" is a weak argument to me. Finally, I don't see how her being meant to contrast whoever makes anything I said in my first comment untrue.
@@MusicLoverInTheSky Are we playing the same game? Yes, Dori gets away with it, but karma always ruins her plans. That's how you make a silly antagonist. It's why she didn't get the cursed Diadem. She had to treat Faruzan and Layla to an expensive meal. My comment on Dori's personality wasn't to disprove your comment. It's to add much needed context. You did what you criticized others for. You labeled a character one-sided. It's not the case here either. She only presents herself in this way because of her profession. She's always hustling. It's a breath of fresh air to have a character in this game that doesn't even open up to the main character about their struggles. You can see what they're going through only if you make the connections yourself. Stuff like her height likely being affected by living in poverty during her childhood. Now that's character depth.
@@Jinni-iras17514 "Karma always ruins her plans" 1) Barely. 2) Only when we're there, apparently. 'Cause if her plans got ruined so often she wouldn't be rich. And Kaveh wouldn't be practically indebted for life to her. "She's not one-sided either. For example, * gives an example tied to money *" 😐
I'm a big defender of Dori because I feel like all the hate comes from players who haven't actually even touched her. 36 starred the current abyss and the last one with her, both as a Hyperbloom driver and an Aggravate one. My Dori has 151% ER and comfortably has her burst back on rotation thanks to Sacrificial Greatsword being by far her BiS weapon as a driver at c6 (from my testing). With 1158 ATK, 62.5 CR, 101 CD, 380 EM, and my talents at 6/9/9 thanks to constellations she still is perfectly capable of getting 9 stars on floor 12. If my poorly invested Dori can manage it, anyone who actually feels like putting more effort into her could really make her shine. I'm going to say my hottest Genshin take. She's simply better than Kuki in most teams I've tested with similar investment. It just comes down to what your team values more between the comfort of Kuki's electro application or the comfort of Dori's heal and battery burst. I'd pick her 100% of the time over Kuki for more f2p friendly hyperbloom teams while still sticking to Kuki on higher investment ones. The difference mostly just comes down to Dori also working as an Aggravate DPS at c6 and as a good driver which I think outright makes her a more valuable character to aim for and invest into.
She's fine and just about as good as most four stars at low cons. At C0 most four stars (even the "good ones") are mediocre by design and really only capable of doing one thing at a time well. Her high healing output makes her great at her designated role and her skill is fine for a little bit of added electro application. And having a healer who can complete electro resonance in reaction teams is useful for both health and energy sustain. I use her often as a slot filler for Navia and Raiden teams with good results, especially useful any time you need to break hydro shields. She also does good work with cast off gear nobody else wants like 2p/2p random ER / HB / HP pieces and a trash tier weapon like The Bell (which actually looks very nice on her). She's also functional as a healer even at level 70 with 1/6/6 talents which makes her a great cheap slot filler for Imaginary Theater.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, Kuki and Dori have always been opposites. One forces on offense, reaction, and a little healing. The other is an actual healer and battery with a bit of application. I will forever be a little upset how many people complained about Cyno’s problems at release and never addressed how Dori’s kit alone solves some of the bigger issues remarkably well.
I'm not saying that you're wrong I'd just like to know how she does fix Cynos problems since I really don't play him and that I don't own him so I only know from what people have said
@@maplesyrup4600 Two of his major problems especially on release was he’s energy hungry and lack of appropriate defensive options that didn’t hinder team synergy. Electro resonance and the lamp actively allowed Cyno to regain gain energy in his burst form, healed him, and didn’t confine him to staying in circle buffs. Those benefits made picking characters like Xingqui and a dendro character feel more synergistic as a whole. I wouldn’t say that team these days are his best obviously, but to this day, Dori makes a lot of Cyno’s demands more reasonable and other two slots more flexible. I just found it odd many guide makers never even brought it up as consideration despite how Genshin is no stranger to releasing a support character and DPS that gel well a patch or two apart. She came out right before him. On some level it feels like her intention leaned to essentially be his F2P friendly support.
@@jonathanrobinson198best answer I can give is simply while it does solve his issues it doesn’t buff his dmg to make him more competitive to other options. Cyno is always in that boat of not having any selling point compared to keqing and Ei who can both do the same thing but can basically run whatever they want without much issue
@ Oh i completely understand it doesn’t buff his damage and even I’m a player who chose to continue playing Keqing over him; it was just such a weird period in time where everyone was quick to call out his shortcomings but didn’t discuss the character that came out 4 weeks earlier who just so happened to address those issues in any capacity. 😅 It’s like when people try discussing Kinich teams and don’t mention Emilie. The option should be mentioned lol.
I love using Dori in 4p co-op. The lamp connects to every active character near it, so it can fathomably become up to 4 times more effective in most co-op situations. 4 times more healing, 4 times more Energy regenerated, and 4 times more beams of Electro damage. Combine her passive with Sac Claymore and 4pc Thundering Fury and Dori is spamming her skill, which heavily reduces her ER needs. My co-op Dori probably only has the ER her Sac Claymore gives, and she always has her Burst available. She literally batteries herself, especially if we're running Electro Resonance. Meanwhile, on Kuki, how many times do I have to chase these fools who are low on health but are still running away from me???
twt people during sumeru were going nuts over simple things, I wish I quitted twt before sumeru cause I still feel that trauma of how people were putting on judging scales every little detail about sumeru while it was actually culturally rich and done perfectly. and by the way I personally used anyone but shinobu in hyperbloom, after all the only actual team that demands her is alhaitham.. who I don't have, don't want and I don't even play hyperbloom cause aggravate eimiko and kavelou bloom and kinich burn slay, while I've appreciated dori for her fast element application and energy generation for ANY team and I used her in heizou-kazuhaC1-faruzan-dori team where heizou works as a skill casting dps, now I use layla in dori's place only because I like lore between kazuhei and farulayla so having two of these duos in one team just makes me happy! but still, I would never demand back any of the resources I've spent on dori, she's good in her domain and people who might say "I can have energy recharge in stats", oh really? you would like to have energy rolls instead of crit?? are you fudging okay? take cyno (who is actually strong, just not easy to play and not easy to access all of his damage dps) he needs too many stats for himself, would you really waste even more of crit stats or em stats just for energy? sometimes when I hear "dori is bad" I just think some players just have no idea how to play the game they claim to be pro at, how then you don't see value in dori when she can be a great universal character for earlier floors of the abyss and a really good choice for the theatre? oh, your alhaitham can't spam ult with shinobu on your team? ooooh, how could that be, that's impossible to fix right we definitely don't have a healer with insane energy generation to fix this problem........ (I hope the sarcasm is loud)
Good video. It's true Dori actually has unique teams and is underrated for gameplay. I have her C6, and full built as an EM driver/hyper bloom carry. Still the Genshin character I dislike the most, sorry. XD
Honestly, i do believe there are two reasons as to why she is so underrated. 1) Kaveh and Layla. Someone correct me if i'm wrong, as i don't have Dori at high friendship level to read her story, nor i played the other events that she appears (thanks Hoyoverse 😃👍). However, she is one of the reasons as to why Kaveh is in such a horrible state, part of it coming with her scams. And as you probably know, Kaveh is one of the few characters who is beloved besides him having a mediocre kit. And she also tricked Layla in some way. So, who would want to build a character like her? 2) While there is a lot of potential in her kit, on paper, it seems mediocre. And if there is something i learned from the Genshin community , it is apperently "bad kit = bad character." Aloy, Xinyan, Sigewinne, Mika, Freminite... if a character has a bad kit, is either forgotten, hated, or both (with, once again, a few exceptions like Kaveh). And Dori sadly goes onto that list. And the fact that she relies way too much on her C6 to be unique and good (heck, more than Faruzan, dare i say), it leaves Dori as one of the least desirable units ever. I'm not saying that i hate Dori (heck, i hate the fact that she always shows up in banners i'm not gonna pull in any way). But honestly, i think there is more than just "Kuki exists"
For the first part she basically just gaslights Leyla into buying more books more or less. The second yes a bad kit does equal a bad character. Electro has always been in that weird spot so much so that it’s being carried by dendro and because she doesn’t directly interact with dendro like other options and other characters really don’t care too much bout what she brings that’s a large chunk of her use gone
It doesn't help with every popular (bad) content creator for Genshin calling her bad because they just did not understand her kit at all. Like it's amazing how bad some characters like Zajef or Zy0x who rated her while trying to make her a Kuki clone while also comparing her to Raiden Shogun...it's like...these people seriously do this as a living?
@@Rpground I means it’s fair statement, she’s competing with both of them and what she brings is either not as good as one or the other so she’s dealing with an up hill battle
@@amari7782 It's not, though. You are just like those content creators who don't understand what Dori does. She is a role consolidation unit. She is not meant to be better then them in their dedicated roles. A jack of all trades. You don't look at Kuki and think "Damn, she sucks because she's not nearly as good of a carry as Yae Miko." Because, yeah...they're not competing for the same spot. So why compare Kuki and Raiden to Dori, especially when one of them is an archon of all things... Raiden can't heal, nor does she apply as much electro as Dori does. Kuki only does hyperbloom and heals. She can't battery and her damage and application to enemies is nonexistent. Nor can she be a driver. Dori takes what would have been two or three characters and brings it all to the table as a dps/healer/battery/applicator hybrid. The only other character that you can argue is like that is Bennett, but even then he is valued more for his huge attack buff. Dori allows you to bring another dps on the team like Fischl without sacrificing anything where as with Kuki or Raiden you have to sacrifice a slot to something else to balance the team.
@@Rpground because the thing is their good at applying their applications at wide enough range or in the case of Ei she’s basically a turret. Role consolidation is a slippery slope because as shown you basically gotta run around the enemy’s to have them hit her line vs Ei who applies electro in hit and kuki who makes a moving circle on the allies. Ei can’t heal that’s true but at the same time she’s probably gonna clear trash mobs and battery to a point you don’t really care. In the case if Ei not really when she’s a dps applicator buffer and battery u really don’t lose much. Same with kuki because you can heal just fine while still having solid electro range, the problem is that she can battery to one person at a time so you’re just banking on the rest of the team doing their own thing
Not going to lie I really want Dori on my main account but I'm saving to C6 my Venti and cannot risk pulling on any limited banner, I play a lot of hyperbloom on my main account but Kuki's Su*cidal healing makes me hate her with an undying passion. If I get Dori in when going for my 5 needed Venti cons then I will immediately be building her for Hyperbloom and replacing Kuki on my Alhaitham and Nahida Team
Im still waitinf for a serius co-op ending game challengue. A lot of pj could become meta. Just image using Cyno while your frind uses Nahida, exploding multi wave enemies
got her c4 on latest banner, she's not bad imo, I tried to put her in team again after I got her c4, at low level she really awesome with Tighnari and she not really build yet, I can go full range fight with her in the team...
I wanted to get her so bad but I get NO luck on any 4 stars 😂 in the last 2 banners I've won multiple 5 stars while I could not get the 4 star stuff I wanted Got Fang of the Mountain King didn't even want it pulled AT LEAST 60 times got NOT ONE sacrificial sword AND I pulled xilonen after about the same and pulled even more and didn't get a single copy of Dori 😂
Slight correction: Dori's C1 is an extra shot, not an extra cast for her skill, sorry about the confusion! 😅 Thanks @zummone for catching 💜
Also, her C4 grants the 30% Energy Recharge buff if the character has less than 50% energy, not if they have above 50% HP, so both healing bonus and ER buffs can coexist
@@turi5959 Huh, I've read that constellation like a dozen times and never realised they can coexist!
@@raptori we've already been conditioned by similarly worded buffs to expect that so I don't blame you lol
"Who needs another Electro healer when we already have Kuki?" at the beginning... Only for Kuki to be featured on the banner immediately after Dori came back 💀
Kuki said no I'm the queen of hyperbloom! 😠
Personally, I prefer Dori, since I am not fond of Kuki draining her own hp as a mechanic.
@@Vickiraytive I only started this month, but I pulled Dori. I haven't even built her yet since I can't capitalize on her reactions, but I'm already a hard Dori fan 😤🫡
I don't have Kuki. Dori is my only option.
Dori +Jean creates an AoE electro swirl around the active character every second. Kuki's is only AoE electro dmg every 1.5 seconds.
Hyperbloom Dori > Kuki
Aggravate Dori >>> Kuki
I say this as a Kuki enjoyer who had her full EM lv90 before Dendro existed
2:09 THANK *GOD* YOU SAID THAT
People are TOO QUICK to throw her into the "children box", just because she has that model. I am 100% sure without a shadow of a doubt she's literally a short old lady.
Not a "granny" like faruzan (yes, she's a human that lived for a long time, but her body hasn't aged that much), but an *actual* old woman (or at least middle-aged)
Can you really blame them putting dori in the children box because of that fuckass model
So you think actual old women can literally look like little kids?
I think it's a problem with lack of variety of genshin models + hoyo don't seem to want to put wrinkles on characters or make them appear older so we have charas like faru or citlali now or Dori. The only old looking character they made are in fatui and we don't know if they will be ever playable
Yeah, I'm not arguing her height, voice pitch or even the fact that she walks, runs and moves with no problem. My main point against this idea that Dori is a normal old lady is her face. You can have a baby face at your 20s, MAYBE even your 30s. First half at least. But not when you're middle aged, let alone old. Even if she talked about using creams and stuff (which she doesn't), no amount of skin care would accomplish that at a high age, like come on. 😂
I see her more as a like 30 years old and just really tiny woman tbh!
I cackled when you said someone stole your mora. Me too. Me too 😢
I LOVE the four star build videos, especially those who don't get enough love. Dori was my first electro in my hyperbloom teams.
HAHah and the funny thing is it was in part Dori because I took her from 85 to 90 for this video😎
YES !!! FINALLY DORI APPRECIATION! you're now my favorite genshin CC 🤧
I personally use Dori as the ultimate battery by extrapolation on her built in regen. Hear me out:
C4 + level 12 burst + exile set + R5 fav. (Build with 230% ER herself)
Like.. the Regen there is INSANE.
Aside from combat performance, the JP Voice actor for Dori is perfect. Perfect. Down to the last minute detail.
Extra: Dori's Electro application to the on field character solves the swirling issue in Nahida teams. Yes, Kazuha and Jean can finally swirl Electro just fine even if Nahida's skill is on.
Edit: Forgot to say, Xilonen also works with Dori!
And in case you're using Kazuha, and you want to swirl Dori's burst while Nahida's skill is on, you need to either use Kazuha's hold skill or burst. Tap skil will very likely not swirl.
PLUS, Dori is one of the best (if not the best) Song Of Days Past set user.
I never knew this!!! Thank you so much because it's annoying when you can't swirl with kazuha or crystallized with xilonen but you also need nahida's reliable application
Ohh that’s so awesome!
Dori has always been one of those characters i wanted to build. However, I always had someone else to focus on. Sacrificial greatsword is an amazing weapon for her thanks to how many times her skill hits enemies, resulting in the effect being very consistent even in low refinements.
I might go around to building her after im done with furina, freminet, lynette, and layla.
Yeah this - there's soooo many characters to build first, and there's always Kuki there making Dori feel like a less valuable choice!
Lynette? Good choice! Pleasant, useful and versatile.
I'm surprised you haven't built Furina yet. also, Layla is great, she's the only healer i actually use.
The Inazuma craftable looks amazing on her and isn't half bad either
@@sleet9289
I do have furina built, I just want to get her to level 90 and max out some of her talents
Small tidbit about her personality and the "Conflicting" aspect of it, she never wants her or her loved ones to suffer for a lack of money, her LOVED ONES, she uses Kaveh's big heart against him because it means she will have more mora. She is kinda uncaring about others inequality because her family and friends just simply matter more to her. (idk if there are any outliers of this ideology but idk)
She actually didn't. A lot of people point to her scamming Kaveh into building her mansion, but she actually demanded he stop when it was destroyed, but his ego insisted on completing the project.
@@SaiyanGamer95 And then during one of Kaveh's hangout endings, she scams him again. Yeah, really nice of her. 😂
@MusicLoverInTheSky She didn't scam him "again". Just once.
@@SaiyanGamer95 Nope. Her mansion was a scam. She just felt bad after things got too complicated and offered him a way out. Kaveh didn't take it, you're right, that's on him. But she doesn't feel much remorse about it, which is why she scammed him AGAIN.
@@SaiyanGamer95 She later demanded the money she spent back, knowing Kaveh wouldn't do anything about it.
Seeing how strong her healing is with an EM build, I'm definitely gonna give her a chance... I like Kuki, but often find myself bringing a second healer to her hyperbloom teams (e.g. Kokomi) even when I'd prefer other options, because against really strong enemies Kuki's healing alone isn't quite enough. Dori might make those teams a lot more viable!
Definitely!
oooh yes, and then you'd get the resonance bonus too! Double electro is often a default of mine 😎
Swapping one of Kuki's artifacts to HP or healing bonus doesn't lower her damage all that much (at least if you get any EM rolls in substats) and it noticeably increases her healing. HP rolls on the EM pieces also help.
Combine that with any sort of damage reduction (like Xingqiu or Beidou) and it's usually enough even against hard hitting enemies, unless you're using Furina.
@@alexprus7953 it doesn't make sense, bcs Kuki's healing scales of EM too.
@@alexprus7953 I actually have her on a Healing Bonus circlet, apparently. I also have a Key of Khaj Nisut but no Nilou ...but that belongs to Layla 😆 Could have an absolutely cracked Kuki if I really wanted to I guess!
The thing with Genshin players is that they think everyone but the absolute strongest meta characters are just straight ass. It’s usually not true.
Indeed! Now that Hu Tao's about to rerun I've seen far too many people imply she's "useless" and not worht pulling just because arlechino is stronger 🤦
Thats not why people don't like or play those like dori . Her personality sucks. I don't care about meta . I use alot of four stars to . Dori isn't one of them because her character is cruel
@@AyatosBobas There are definitely a lot of palyers who won't play her because they believe she's "bad"! I also dismissed her due to her personality, but got curious because her kit surprised me (positively)! that sasid, it's a-ok to not like a character, and also to not play a characetr you don't like :)
Sacraficial greatsword on Dori is rediculously good.
Oh random but so looking forward to videos on Gaming, Clorinde, Kaveh (poor baby, I adore him yet it’s basically pointless, hardly able to save him but I wish I could play him!), Mona, Fischl, Xianyun, Xingqiu, and other more obscure or forgotten ones (let’s say like Yun Jin, Yan Fei, Sethos, etc that seem to not be used or appreciated) - well everyone eventually of course!
Your character reviews are so useful, thoughtful, technical, and yet to the heart of the character which is so rare so really appreciate and enjoy your format and analysis style that incorporates lore, technicality, and far more substance than a vast majority of reviews I have found. Really enjoy your work,it makes me rediscover or develop appreciate for characters, play styles, and team utilities- keep it up!
Thank you so much! 💜 I take the time to get to know a character the best I can (both lore and kit wise) which is why these videos take a little longer to emerge, but we'll get to all of them eventually 🥰
@@saurusness the quality and intentionality is evident, love your approach, presentation, and end result!
@@dear_totheheart That means the world, thank you! 💜
I was there for the stream where you brought your Dori out as a "joke"!! I had such a blast, it was my first one and I wanted to thank you again for being so welcoming and kind!! I'm really looking forward to the next stream I can attend, and in the meantime I'll be watching all your character reviews!! - Seren Mist
(P.S. HOW CUTE WAS THE EVENT CUTSCENE ;w;)
I do enjoy Dori, she brings an important dose of gremlin energy. I remember when starting out the game I liked to build characters from the region when I reached it, so Dori stuck with me a fair bit through Sumeru - though I didnt fully build her still, which shows in her leftover 4* artifacts because I didnt get a matching stat. I still am a bit torn how to build her and this review makes me want to change up things again!
(also her c1 doesnt give You an extra cast of her skill, just an extra bullet)
What a surprise! I got her C6 in Xilonen's banner and am excited to build her up. After looking around for some modern build recommendations and finding none, I put that project on the back burner, but now thanks to your video I feel equipped. Time to farm the electro regisvine...
at ar 60 i have a lot of freedom to what i can do, so i decided to build every character i own.
i also was really suprised by the dori performance and right now, she is inexchengable character for my xiao team
I mainly use my Dori on my Tighnari and Yae team. I also have her on Deep Wood and Sac Sword for role consolidation. Arguably one of my most efficient energy teams.
Very interesting ill need to give dori a chance and build her, i believe i have her at c6. I really like kuki but one of my biggest gripes with her is how she looses a good chunk of health every time she uses her skill
i actually dont hate her i just wish she had one single character trait/voiceline that didnt involve money/greed bc i thought she was pretty funny in the event
She's definitely a bit of a charicature in that sense :/
Her teapot voice line
🥲
"Someone seems to have stolen my mora" 😆👏👏👏 I really enjoy Dori's design and overall aesthetic vibe. I remember how different she felt/looked when she first released, and despite not falling in love with her character/voice right away, I needed her. I'm really glad I got her, she's kinda a "sleeper" character, and she's quite flexible both in build and teams. I'm one of those that's always hoping people will give characters like her, and other "useless" characters, an actual chance. 💜
Definitely going to test out whether I prefer Kuki or Dori when I pull Nahida tomorrow. Kuki seems like the better option in a lot of ways, but I can't say I'm a fan of the idea of my healer getting sniped at low HP....also I love Dori's design, it's so unique and funny to me!
Thank you for saving Dori! I enjoyed her myself on random coop and tend to carry the heals without issues. You're right about the energy recharge to be misleading and a lower recharge is quite right for her.
I practically main C6 Dori as a dps and she is a really REALLY good on field dps. She offers something no other character provides and that is role consolidation.
She can be a healer, dps, electro applicator and battery all in one and at C6 her electro application triples which makes her even stronger as a dps and with her consolidation she allows you to run an additional off field dps on the team. So while Dori herself is not doing as much damage as a dedicated dps, she is more then making up for it by just bringing another one along for the ride.
Even better at C6 is that you can completely forego ER stats. I have 0 ER in my build and she gets burst off cooldown, that should tell you how negligible her ER problems really are.
Thundering Fury is her best and only set for dps, though. Mare, even completely active, does not make up for the downtime Dori would have without TF. If you want dps, you always go TF on her.
The thing about Dori dps is that she also has unusually high multipliers when you look at them. At C6 her burst goes up to over a 1100% multiplier and her basic attacks are some of the highest in the game...they're higher then Hu Tao, who is a dedicated dps. Her skill is no slouch either with it's over 400% and proccing two reactions per use at C1.
And this is all when she was released...she has only gotten better with time with characters like Furina who takes advantage of everything in Dori's kit. As you said, she heals so much at base that she keeps the entire team at full hp during a rotation without even building into HP for healing.
Even her self electro infusion is useful because characters like Kazuha and Jean swirl off themselves, so it makes it extremely easy to swirl the correct element for your VV shred. Nahida users will love this as her dendro application overriding everything doesn't matter.
All of this is why Dori is just one of my favorite characters to play. It's helps to that I love her personality as well. Her JP voice actor is incredibly unhinged and it is truly the best thing you will ever hear.
Ah, genshin famous shady merchant. For some reason i always imagine her singing Arabian Night song from Aladdin 👳🐒🧞♂️
I really do not get how people just get so negative with her , OK so she's a greedy merchant alright but still a lovable character and the back story is yet to be exploited for future story quest , actually like her antics , she's one of the more fun one to play with
You desserves all the love, cookies and baby otter of the world for having made that video and gave this character the respect she deserves ♥
omg a baby otter too 🤩💜💜💜
I keep hearing people say she's bad. But when I tried her in Sethos team, I was surprised to see how good her healing was. Not sure why people were hating her, probably because of her personality?
ever since hearing about dori's fridge team, I can't wait to build her and try the team out!!
I love Dori! Plus her being Claymore means i can farm ores with her
Dori was my first c6 character & I've always meant to build her but you know how I am about building my characters😂 I love yooouwuwuwuwuwuwuwuwuwu ❤❤❤
hahahah 💜
Wow your whole video is so good, from the text to the editing, I'm happy to subscribe 😊
She is cursed with deployable healing. Someone is on red health, and as co-op people do, they run _away_ from my 10k per 2s healing smh
playing circle impact healer in co-op can be so frustrating like STOP RUNNING AWAY I'M TYRING TO SAVE YOUR LIFE SMH
I play her. Her lore is so related to most people, including me.
And using her with sacrificial claymore got synergy with her talent a lot
Heh, chill team.
Well now I guess I have to build my C6 Dori 😎
I vaguely remember getting loads of Doris on her debut banner, though I don't recall why I was wishing on it lol
people underrate Kinich and Emilie burning overload spread teams, that's where I fit my Dori, they just need some burning going in and out for the damage boost from it happening, you can still proc reactions with electro instead of limiting them to do pure dendro damage for even greater numbers since they are not burning dps, they just do more dps if burning happens frequently enough
7:50 "someone stole all of my mora" (the 900k just sitting at the top looking pretty: 😔)
I have a fully built C6 Dori and she’s great. I love using her in trounce co-op, but I get so angry when someone inevitably silently swaps to Furina lol. I promise I can keep you all healed with my 100% burst uptime.
I went from having 0 Doris to having c6 Dori this banner. Good timing on this one, as I haven't really been wanting to build my Kuki, despite standard banner throwing me 3 copies since I started playing.
Dori is really good at C6. Build her and have fun. You won't regret it.
@@TheArtPaige Do you have a resin-efficient domain to recommend for someone who has only been playing half a year? I despise artifact farming T.T
Feels bad to go for something Dori specific if the other set isn't good
@@Vickiraytive Try her with Jean
Farm any efficient artifact domain and strongbox thundering fury for her. It's her best set because she benefits all electro reactions already. Just EM and ER is fine
I got Dori back in 3.0. She was, in fact, one of the first characters that I pre-farmed in the game. I really loved her design back in the day, and her personality was very appealing to me (it was refreshing having a character who wasn't a saint but instead a greedy gremlin because of how the world treated her and her sister).
I use her with Fischl, Nahida, and Xilonen for Aggravate (or Furina for blooms and quickens).
try Jean instead of Xilonen
Amazing analysis and love the refreshing insight and usefulness!
However regardless of potential, I just DESPISE her character, attitude, voice, everything!
I wish I could be unbiased but I can’t stand her! I felt you summarized it best, she feels very shallow, underdeveloped, and rather annoying. I like the idea of her as a feisty scheming middle aged woman though. Really neat to see you’ve found uses for her
Dori main here. I have 36*ed abyss with her since her release (missed like 3 abyss phases due to irl stuff)
Her best teammates are Nahida, Fischl, and Jean (Kazuha too I guess)
Her unique synergy with Anemo is what makes her go from below average to incredible. She can guarantee Kazuha and Sucrose swirl electro, consistently buffing units like Fischl.
If you pair her with Jean you are able to get AoE electro reactions every second for the duration of their bursts.
In abyss with her best teammates (c0 r0 5* teammates btw) she can clear between 60 seconds to 90 seconds. I bet the clear speeds go way down if you have Nahida constellations but I need to avoid stuff like that to prove my point against the haters.
I run this team w/ Kazuha and Sac Gsword / Thundering Fury on Dori. She spams her skill so often that she almost never has energy problems and allowed me to run more offensive weapons on my Kazuha because of the lamp battery instead of Favonius.
I don't really have much to say except thank you! ❤ I think Dori brings a lot to the table, as a character to play and with her personality. Although I feel for Kaveh, it is nice to have an antagonistic character like her. And it's not an NPC who we never see again (much like some people's story quests). It gives much more depth to some parts of this game which doesn't often do dives into the darker sides of what's going on with people in Teyvat. Although we are moving in a direction that's promising.
I badly want to finish her build now but it'll probably take a while. Thank you for rekindling my appreciation for her and great work with the video 🥰
THANK YOU FOR THIS! I got Dori when i first started playing and used her for my earlygame overworld team simply because i really needed someone with a claimore for mining and also her being electro+heal was a nice side effect. Ever since then she was one of my main healers and now that i C6ed her, she is my hyperbloom Nuke!
I know that there are more meta teams around but her playstyle is just so much fun!
Hold up, Dori's lamp is basically a Dispenser from Team Fortress 2! you plop it down and it will recharge people or heal them if they place near it, with the added bonus of also dealing damage to enemies. Once again, a 4* character with a neat ability that most people pass over because it doesn't do the same thing as the most popular option, in this case Kuki giving Off field application on your DPS like an Electro version of Xinqiu(oh wow, stacking auras is so skill intensive amirite?)
I mean the issue is that you need to be near it for the effects ( effectively playing circle impact something people don’t like normally) compared to that to XQ and Kuki who give you heals, dmg reduction, off field electro or hydro for hyper bloom, on top of adding dmg to the team.
Nowadays if you’re a healer you either gotta have really good healing and application or it’s not worth using
@@amari7782
Dori has both if you pair her with Jean or Kazuha. Electro every second unlike Kuki's 1.5 second application speed. Even the most annoying mobile enemies in this game will get shredded with that electro application
@@Jinni-iras17514 yea but with Kuki u attack cores outwards
She is amazing at co-ops, mainly with the Instructor's set.
It is funny, in hyperbloom team co-ops, after I do my burst, I start runnings around every enemy, triggering the hyperbloom. Often, other players start doing the same when they understand what I am doing.
Dori's lines are amidst the funniest in the game.
YO WTF like i love how people can have these twinning thoughts twinning ideas moments
The other day a comment mentioned your channel under my post, regarding genshin’s meta state and how newbies and players in general should focus on enjoying the game and play w their favs (and there will be ways for their fav to remain in the meta, in a different way, a different position)
Now this like i’ve always wondered if we can have a second Kuki
We already have the legendary NaXingKu
my take is BaiFuRi Baizhu Furina Dori
And both of these team can be paired with a Pyro on fielder to trigger all kind of Shenanigans (namely Hutao; and coming up will be Dehya and Mavuika on 2 sides being the tanks they are)
Love the work
Gotta pay attention and respect to The Great Sangemah Bay Merchant.
"Someone seems to have stolen all my mora" really got me 😂
Honestly tho, I really enjoy playing with Dori, she is super strong in many of my teams ❤
Thank you for this video 🙏
I’m genuinely gonna build my Dori after I finish leveling my new Chiori ❤ (my account is at a stage where I can put a lot of resources to non meta things without any consequences haha)
I suspect the answer to the question of why know one bothered to find out how Dori is a good electro healer, but they did discover Kuki’s healing and electro utility - is going to basically boil down to :
Kuki’s hotpants.
Every time i see one of your videos i say: oh i want to build him/her now. Love your content
This video is really good and helpful, and also shows how Dori really isn't as bad as she seems. I never really believed Dori was that bad
tbh her build is best when you use sac greatsword and full em on her,, i posted a floor 12 clear earlier which is miles better than someone like cyno before but i think i privated it😭
I've never thought she's useless. Quite the opposite, actually. I just find her irritating. Though, after seeing this video, maybe I'll put my bias aside and try her out sometime. Great job on this video!
you did Dori justice
I love using teams of Dori + hydro pyro and dendro xD It is such a reaction mess you don't know what happens but enemies die haha
Benny actually has great synergy with her given that he's applying pyro while she's applying electro. This causes overloads on the character without the need to even attack. Overload has an AoE meaning it still deals damage to enemies as well, even when they're currently being electro charged for example (since the reaction originates from the char, no need for pyro electro to directly be on the enemy)
Soluna has made a video about this at some point and showcased it there
I love dori, I do play her hyperbloom. I goy her before kuki so she was my only electro healer
great video shes surprisingly good in a Jean, Fischl and a dendro MC or kirara Agrravate team as it heavily abuses Fischl's A4
I've had Dori built with thundering fury for a while now (with full EM plus some crit, because I keep getting TF pieces with both EM and crit). I find her best in quickbloom, with Nahida, Fischl, and Furina, since the whole team is dealing decent talent + reaction damage. I feel like she really needs TF though, since the skill cooldown reduction makes her c6 normal attack heals sooo much more useful... (and they trigger oz's attacks more)
1:28This backstory is similar to Leorio in HxH. I suspect miHoYo learned from her failures and created ZZZ's Nicole
For me she fills just the right niche, especially at C6. When playing furina in a hyperbloom team you need double hydro to maximize the bloom procs with nahihi which means your last slot has to be an electro team-wide healer
I love my C6 Dori. Since in 5.2, Superconduct, Electro-charged, Overload and Shatter are getting a buff, Dori’s rainbow team is going to be useful, not forgetting that Dori uses claymore (can do shatter).
Dori's look reminds me of old pictures from the late 60s and early 70s. Just awful 😂. I built her with high HP, ER, and EM Thundering Fury with the Chainsaw Claymore. I use her in the Abyss with Fischl, Neuvillette, and Furina whenever they have Pyro Lecters. The shields fall on both in less than 15 seconds. Other than that, she collects dust.
I've been using her with Songs of Days Past with Archiac Petra Yun Jin - with Clorinde and Collei - and it feels very comfortable as a buffer-oriented comp. She can make use of these artifacts well...
I'm surprised you didn't mention Portable Power Saw in the weapon section. HP main stat, with a team buff passive that she procs pretty easily.
Indeed good point - I didn't really consider any HP weapons in retrospect, otherwise I shoudl've probably given an honorary mention to the Bell too heh😅
I'm a big fan of characters that can work great with whatever artifacts i have lying around
I actually like Dori, her personality and design, but i still don't really use her just because i have Baizhu and Kokomi, so if i need a healer for dendro teams i just slot one of them in. i did get her c6 recently so i have been thinking about using her as a dps, thundering fury does sound fun for that but i also don't have any good sets from it.
i'm really interested in dori teams at c6, but personally, i don't see much value in her before then, as i have c2 kuki and i find dori to be quite inconsistent as an off field hyperbloom trigger. i feel like she's in a position where she's noticeably worse than another option, kuki, in one of her best teams, and given they're similarly accessible, being a worse option makes her feel a lot worse to use, regardless of the actual difference. also, surprised you didnt bring up her interaction with jean!
while watching the video I felt as if you were taking the words out of my mouth. ive been saying since forever that the comparison between dori and kuki is very small but people still refuse to accept the facts and keep believing dori to be a downgrade in every way. Its specially ridiculous when tier lists have her at like F tier while kuki is at S tier when in reality they arent that far apart. great video 👍
I am also totally Mora Broke, the change to bounties and requests was harsh, and having to fall back on Leylines of Wealth just feels incredibly bad.
For me healers need to do more than just heal to earn a party slot. If all they did was heal I got another option that can do more and they would be choosen instead. For Dori she does heal a lot but what else she does is not obvious to players and that gives rise to the belief that she is bad. Kuki has a large area electro application that makes it obvious that she works on hyperbloom and that her healing has EM scaling too. For me I discovered a niche use for her that convinced me to build her as only she can fill this role ingame.
Take a team of Yae Miko, Nahida, Fischl, Kazuha. Once Nahida E skill is on enemy it is near impossible to get electro aura on enemy which makes getting electro swirls near impossible to get. Swap Fischl with Dori and as expected you get the comfort of heals BUT her burst applies electro to the active character directly. Not only does that act as an elemental cleanse but Kazuha can swirl that electro on him when Nahida is blocking it from the enemy and he still gets his electro swirls. Dori literally bypasses the OP Nahida problem in that specific team. My Dori does also heal a massive amount too, if my character is under 50% HP the burst tick is 11.8k HP.
I also use Sac greatsword on her so all I do is E-Q-E-swap so she doesnt take that much field time even so she isnt taking too much time away from the rest of the party.
Also now with the adition of Imaginarium Theatre there is more reason to build your less used characters now so you can fill out a larger roster and do better in that game mode.
I calculated the healers' maximum healing potential once out of curiosity and Dori turned iut to have the highest healing per tick. (This is before Xilonen and I don't know about her healing). In ideal scenarios like having
People in the community sometimes label characters as one-sided like Jean, Ganyu, Keqing, etc. (funny that they're ALL women, right?? but that's another conversation entirely so let's leave it at that) and they're wrong, there's so much more to them. I'd link a twitter thread talking about it but TH-cam doesn't like links so... 🤷
Anyway, what I'm trying to get at here is that Dori is perhaps the only character in the game who actually IS one-sided. Her personality revolves around one thing and one thing only. I have all my characters at friendship level 10 and, I kid you not, EVERY. SINGLE. VOICE NOTE OF HERS. IS ABOUT MORA. No other character is like that, omfg (at least from the ones I have and I have +60). At some point her character stories explain why she's obsessed with it but it's still super annoying and I *hate* how she takes advantage of her status. Like, take the current event for example. She wanted to charge 200k mora for something that would cost her 10k. Obviously you need to charge higher than it costs you so you gain money but this is ridiculous. Especially when she acts as if she's doing you this huuuuuge favour. 🙄 Despicable.
Now that I got all that out, yeah, as usual, kit wise she's not as useless as some people paint her as. I personally built her for hyperbloom but specifically to use with Jean and have like an electro Sunfire team. Still need to build Jean but yeah, should be fun. 😂
She reslly is a bit of a charicature even if you dive deeper, and also while her tragic past might explain her priorities, and why she's the way she is, it doesn't excuse treating others poorly or taking advantage of them!
What's interesting is how certain people treat everything she does so seriously when the writing team clearly intended her antics to be humorous. You don't see this much hate for similarly written characters like Nicole , Herrscher of Sentience and Yae Miko.
Another conversation could be had about Dori being singled out but whatever.
You have characters do "heartless" things for humor all the time in this game. The big example is how Itto used his gang's hard earned money.
"Ugh, you really are a bull-chucker! You extorted 80 grand from your gang members and didn't pay a single Mora yourself!" (The joke is paid 10k so he did contribute)
She's meant to be the comedic villain whose schemes fail right in front of us for entertainment.
Her personality is all about mora and extravagance because she's meant to contrast Kaveh and Alhaitham's philosophies.
@@Jinni-iras17514 I don't play HI3rd so I don't know this Nicole, but Yae also bothers me. XD Poor Gorou. :'c
The difference between characters like Itto is that they do it seldom *and* they usually suffer some kind or consequence because of it. Even if that consequence is just scolding or a lecture. Whereas Dori is like that literally 24/7 and karma evades her. 🤷 For the record, she's not the only character whose personality I really dislike. I've already mentioned Yae. Childe exists. Etc. Also, being mean is never funny to me unless it's done to a mean character so, "It's meant to be a joke!1!" is a weak argument to me.
Finally, I don't see how her being meant to contrast whoever makes anything I said in my first comment untrue.
@@MusicLoverInTheSky
Are we playing the same game? Yes, Dori gets away with it, but karma always ruins her plans. That's how you make a silly antagonist. It's why she didn't get the cursed Diadem. She had to treat Faruzan and Layla to an expensive meal.
My comment on Dori's personality wasn't to disprove your comment. It's to add much needed context. You did what you criticized others for. You labeled a character one-sided. It's not the case here either. She only presents herself in this way because of her profession. She's always hustling.
It's a breath of fresh air to have a character in this game that doesn't even open up to the main character about their struggles.
You can see what they're going through only if you make the connections yourself. Stuff like her height likely being affected by living in poverty during her childhood. Now that's character depth.
@@Jinni-iras17514 "Karma always ruins her plans" 1) Barely. 2) Only when we're there, apparently. 'Cause if her plans got ruined so often she wouldn't be rich. And Kaveh wouldn't be practically indebted for life to her.
"She's not one-sided either. For example, * gives an example tied to money *" 😐
I'm a big defender of Dori because I feel like all the hate comes from players who haven't actually even touched her. 36 starred the current abyss and the last one with her, both as a Hyperbloom driver and an Aggravate one. My Dori has 151% ER and comfortably has her burst back on rotation thanks to Sacrificial Greatsword being by far her BiS weapon as a driver at c6 (from my testing). With 1158 ATK, 62.5 CR, 101 CD, 380 EM, and my talents at 6/9/9 thanks to constellations she still is perfectly capable of getting 9 stars on floor 12. If my poorly invested Dori can manage it, anyone who actually feels like putting more effort into her could really make her shine.
I'm going to say my hottest Genshin take. She's simply better than Kuki in most teams I've tested with similar investment. It just comes down to what your team values more between the comfort of Kuki's electro application or the comfort of Dori's heal and battery burst. I'd pick her 100% of the time over Kuki for more f2p friendly hyperbloom teams while still sticking to Kuki on higher investment ones. The difference mostly just comes down to Dori also working as an Aggravate DPS at c6 and as a good driver which I think outright makes her a more valuable character to aim for and invest into.
She's fine and just about as good as most four stars at low cons. At C0 most four stars (even the "good ones") are mediocre by design and really only capable of doing one thing at a time well. Her high healing output makes her great at her designated role and her skill is fine for a little bit of added electro application. And having a healer who can complete electro resonance in reaction teams is useful for both health and energy sustain.
I use her often as a slot filler for Navia and Raiden teams with good results, especially useful any time you need to break hydro shields. She also does good work with cast off gear nobody else wants like 2p/2p random ER / HB / HP pieces and a trash tier weapon like The Bell (which actually looks very nice on her). She's also functional as a healer even at level 70 with 1/6/6 talents which makes her a great cheap slot filler for Imaginary Theater.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, Kuki and Dori have always been opposites. One forces on offense, reaction, and a little healing. The other is an actual healer and battery with a bit of application.
I will forever be a little upset how many people complained about Cyno’s problems at release and never addressed how Dori’s kit alone solves some of the bigger issues remarkably well.
I'm not saying that you're wrong I'd just like to know how she does fix Cynos problems since I really don't play him and that I don't own him so I only know from what people have said
@@maplesyrup4600 Two of his major problems especially on release was he’s energy hungry and lack of appropriate defensive options that didn’t hinder team synergy.
Electro resonance and the lamp actively allowed Cyno to regain gain energy in his burst form, healed him, and didn’t confine him to staying in circle buffs. Those benefits made picking characters like Xingqui and a dendro character feel more synergistic as a whole.
I wouldn’t say that team these days are his best obviously, but to this day, Dori makes a lot of Cyno’s demands more reasonable and other two slots more flexible.
I just found it odd many guide makers never even brought it up as consideration despite how Genshin is no stranger to releasing a support character and DPS that gel well a patch or two apart. She came out right before him. On some level it feels like her intention leaned to essentially be his F2P friendly support.
@@jonathanrobinson198best answer I can give is simply while it does solve his issues it doesn’t buff his dmg to make him more competitive to other options.
Cyno is always in that boat of not having any selling point compared to keqing and Ei who can both do the same thing but can basically run whatever they want without much issue
@ Oh i completely understand it doesn’t buff his damage and even I’m a player who chose to continue playing Keqing over him; it was just such a weird period in time where everyone was quick to call out his shortcomings but didn’t discuss the character that came out 4 weeks earlier who just so happened to address those issues in any capacity. 😅
It’s like when people try discussing Kinich teams and don’t mention Emilie. The option should be mentioned lol.
@@jonathanrobinson198 yea it’s solely because Dori is just bad normally so it’s not even worth trying to push as an argument
I love using Dori in 4p co-op. The lamp connects to every active character near it, so it can fathomably become up to 4 times more effective in most co-op situations. 4 times more healing, 4 times more Energy regenerated, and 4 times more beams of Electro damage. Combine her passive with Sac Claymore and 4pc Thundering Fury and Dori is spamming her skill, which heavily reduces her ER needs. My co-op Dori probably only has the ER her Sac Claymore gives, and she always has her Burst available. She literally batteries herself, especially if we're running Electro Resonance.
Meanwhile, on Kuki, how many times do I have to chase these fools who are low on health but are still running away from me???
HMM, Should I build this little greedy bastard? I just got her C6 yesterday while I tried desperately and succeeded to get Xilonen C2.
Woo congrats on xilonen c2! And yes, I personally think so 😎
twt people during sumeru were going nuts over simple things, I wish I quitted twt before sumeru cause I still feel that trauma of how people were putting on judging scales every little detail about sumeru while it was actually culturally rich and done perfectly. and by the way I personally used anyone but shinobu in hyperbloom, after all the only actual team that demands her is alhaitham.. who I don't have, don't want and I don't even play hyperbloom cause aggravate eimiko and kavelou bloom and kinich burn slay, while I've appreciated dori for her fast element application and energy generation for ANY team and I used her in heizou-kazuhaC1-faruzan-dori team where heizou works as a skill casting dps, now I use layla in dori's place only because I like lore between kazuhei and farulayla so having two of these duos in one team just makes me happy! but still, I would never demand back any of the resources I've spent on dori, she's good in her domain and people who might say "I can have energy recharge in stats", oh really? you would like to have energy rolls instead of crit?? are you fudging okay? take cyno (who is actually strong, just not easy to play and not easy to access all of his damage dps) he needs too many stats for himself, would you really waste even more of crit stats or em stats just for energy? sometimes when I hear "dori is bad" I just think some players just have no idea how to play the game they claim to be pro at, how then you don't see value in dori when she can be a great universal character for earlier floors of the abyss and a really good choice for the theatre? oh, your alhaitham can't spam ult with shinobu on your team? ooooh, how could that be, that's impossible to fix right we definitely don't have a healer with insane energy generation to fix this problem........ (I hope the sarcasm is loud)
Good video. It's true Dori actually has unique teams and is underrated for gameplay. I have her C6, and full built as an EM driver/hyper bloom carry.
Still the Genshin character I dislike the most, sorry. XD
Honestly, i do believe there are two reasons as to why she is so underrated.
1) Kaveh and Layla. Someone correct me if i'm wrong, as i don't have Dori at high friendship level to read her story, nor i played the other events that she appears (thanks Hoyoverse 😃👍). However, she is one of the reasons as to why Kaveh is in such a horrible state, part of it coming with her scams. And as you probably know, Kaveh is one of the few characters who is beloved besides him having a mediocre kit. And she also tricked Layla in some way. So, who would want to build a character like her?
2) While there is a lot of potential in her kit, on paper, it seems mediocre. And if there is something i learned from the Genshin community , it is apperently "bad kit = bad character." Aloy, Xinyan, Sigewinne, Mika, Freminite... if a character has a bad kit, is either forgotten, hated, or both (with, once again, a few exceptions like Kaveh). And Dori sadly goes onto that list. And the fact that she relies way too much on her C6 to be unique and good (heck, more than Faruzan, dare i say), it leaves Dori as one of the least desirable units ever.
I'm not saying that i hate Dori (heck, i hate the fact that she always shows up in banners i'm not gonna pull in any way). But honestly, i think there is more than just "Kuki exists"
For the first part she basically just gaslights Leyla into buying more books more or less.
The second yes a bad kit does equal a bad character.
Electro has always been in that weird spot so much so that it’s being carried by dendro and because she doesn’t directly interact with dendro like other options and other characters really don’t care too much bout what she brings that’s a large chunk of her use gone
It doesn't help with every popular (bad) content creator for Genshin calling her bad because they just did not understand her kit at all.
Like it's amazing how bad some characters like Zajef or Zy0x who rated her while trying to make her a Kuki clone while also comparing her to Raiden Shogun...it's like...these people seriously do this as a living?
@@Rpground I means it’s fair statement, she’s competing with both of them and what she brings is either not as good as one or the other so she’s dealing with an up hill battle
@@amari7782 It's not, though. You are just like those content creators who don't understand what Dori does.
She is a role consolidation unit. She is not meant to be better then them in their dedicated roles. A jack of all trades.
You don't look at Kuki and think "Damn, she sucks because she's not nearly as good of a carry as Yae Miko." Because, yeah...they're not competing for the same spot.
So why compare Kuki and Raiden to Dori, especially when one of them is an archon of all things...
Raiden can't heal, nor does she apply as much electro as Dori does.
Kuki only does hyperbloom and heals. She can't battery and her damage and application to enemies is nonexistent. Nor can she be a driver.
Dori takes what would have been two or three characters and brings it all to the table as a dps/healer/battery/applicator hybrid. The only other character that you can argue is like that is Bennett, but even then he is valued more for his huge attack buff.
Dori allows you to bring another dps on the team like Fischl without sacrificing anything where as with Kuki or Raiden you have to sacrifice a slot to something else to balance the team.
@@Rpground because the thing is their good at applying their applications at wide enough range or in the case of Ei she’s basically a turret. Role consolidation is a slippery slope because as shown you basically gotta run around the enemy’s to have them hit her line vs Ei who applies electro in hit and kuki who makes a moving circle on the allies.
Ei can’t heal that’s true but at the same time she’s probably gonna clear trash mobs and battery to a point you don’t really care.
In the case if Ei not really when she’s a dps applicator buffer and battery u really don’t lose much.
Same with kuki because you can heal just fine while still having solid electro range, the problem is that she can battery to one person at a time so you’re just banking on the rest of the team doing their own thing
Holy shit, someone finally found out dori was made for coop
Not going to lie I really want Dori on my main account but I'm saving to C6 my Venti and cannot risk pulling on any limited banner, I play a lot of hyperbloom on my main account but Kuki's Su*cidal healing makes me hate her with an undying passion. If I get Dori in when going for my 5 needed Venti cons then I will immediately be building her for Hyperbloom and replacing Kuki on my Alhaitham and Nahida Team
Meanwhile, I went the Main DPS route and made a Physical Plunge Dori with Xianyun. XD
c6 Dori infuse electro, bennet c6 infuse pyro, Nahida and Yelan and you have hpyerbloom, overload, burgeon, electrohrage, random shit go boom
A c6 dori quickbloom with c2r1 nahida, c2r1 xilonen & c2r1(key of khaj nisut) furina will be bonkers
idk about c5 and below but yeah at c6 she's definitely worth building if you don't like how uncomfy kuki can get at times lol
C1 isn't a second skill cast, it's just an extra shot from her skill, from 2 to 3.
Oof great catch I mixed that one up for sure, sorry!
@@saurusness NP, as someone who finds definite uses for Dori (didn't build her EM tho), I loved your video
@@zummone Where are u getting use from her and whats ur build like?
Im still waitinf for a serius co-op ending game challengue. A lot of pj could become meta. Just image using Cyno while your frind uses Nahida, exploding multi wave enemies
I recently built her because I needed electro for imaginarium theater and since she was C6 I chose her instead of Razor
got her c4 on latest banner, she's not bad imo, I tried to put her in team again after I got her c4, at low level she really awesome with Tighnari and she not really build yet, I can go full range fight with her in the team...
I crowned Dori's NA and cleared abyss with her as main dps
I wanted to get her so bad but I get NO luck on any 4 stars 😂 in the last 2 banners I've won multiple 5 stars while I could not get the 4 star stuff I wanted Got Fang of the Mountain King didn't even want it pulled AT LEAST 60 times got NOT ONE sacrificial sword AND I pulled xilonen after about the same and pulled even more and didn't get a single copy of Dori 😂
OOF the pain of wanting a specific 4 star in this game 😩
Dori + Sayu = yoyo play style
If only Dori's voicelines aren't infuriating, I would have main her in the overworld...
Reasons to pull for Dori
1. She's adorable
2. She's adorable
3. She's adorable
aDORIble 🥰
If her personality didnt suck i would actually use the character because the degsin and gameplay isnt that bad.
She is really valid as an aggravate driver at c6. Just cancel the attack after the second hit and you got an electro machine gun.
I wanted to like her and use her so bad cause i LOVED SLIMES AND I LOVE PINK 😢😢😂❤
Honestly i think dori (strangely enough) is one of the character made to be cracked in multiplayer
Since her burst effects only acrive characters.