Great video. You've done what I have wanted to do for a few years, now I don't have to. My 2nd great grand parents were laid to rest here, Rebecca 1870 and Charles 1876. Thanks.
Brilliant video this mate, never knew that cemetery was there the amount of times I’ve walked past, and down the side of St Cecillia’s church. Definitely needs something doing to this, to keep the memories of the forgotten alive.
Great video George. I was surprised at the lack of maintenance. I remember the Deane Road Jewish Cemetery was once in a similar condition and there was a project to restore it and it's now restored. Maybe with more people becoming aware of its condition there will be future plans to restore it. The Jewish community has declined in numbers in Liverpool but I'm sure there are Jewish people in Liverpool and outside our region and even abroad who have people in their family tree buried here and would like to see it restored so they can see those gravestones properly. Well done for bringing attention to this cemetery.
thanks mate glad you liked it im surprised at the lack to ive never seen anything like this in all my life hopefully this video will get to the right person or people and it will be restored and reopened ahh yeh the deane road one wasnt that in a similar state and now its restored thanks for watching mate
@@g2emedia1977 Done some research. Various entries in Liverpool census records and directories list the site as a Jewish Cemetery with a resident keeper, gardener or caretaker. The Jump family were there for many years with John Jump there as a gardener in 1851, 1861 and 1871, he is in Gore's Directory 1870 as keeper, after his death his widow Jane Jump is in Gore's Directory 1880 and 1890 (address in 1880 was 21 Green Lane, in 1890 it was 27 Green Lane) then daughter Miss Jane Jump is in Gore’s Directory 1900. Different keepers are named in each Kelly's Directory for 1911, 1930 and 1952. Some maps for the site say mortuary chapel so there was definitely a building onsite at one time for a keeper to live there with their family members.
ahh cool cheers mate i think that black metal gate leads to some sort of building looking back now when me and eric came across it near the end of the video thanks for the info mate
How did I not know this was there? I grew up on one of the streets just off Green Lane, attended judo lessons in the church next door, and my sister actually went to the junior school on the other side. I always thought that patch of trees behind the wall belonged to the church!
its surprising most locals dont even know about it either i think most people think it belongs to the school or church...just goes to show whats behind some walls thanks for watching
I came across this cemetery by chance some years ago. I was conducting a funeral at St Cecillia's Church which is next door to the cemetery. I went on google satellite but it was very overgrown and I couldn't see any detail. It was great to be able to see inside and I was surprised how similar it was to a jewish cemetery I visited in Krakow. Interesting story especially about Rex Makin, he used to live on Queens Drive just past the Fiveways going towards Allerton Road. I remember walking home from work past his house and there always used to be some exotic car parked on the driveway. Great Video as usual and good to see you both out and about.
Fab guys, wondered what happened to the ladder 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 That place needs a serious clean-up, it's sacrilege to leave it like that 😲 Some seriously amazing stuff in there 🪦🪦🪦🪦🪦
thanks for watching helen lived doing this and was only possible with a mate from work telling me about it...i owe him seriously though sad seeing it like this thanks for watching helen
@@g2emedia1977 That's ok, I'll watch it properly tmrw - had to get up early for am MRI this morning (caught a bug up town that prevented last week's) ... left leg isn't working properly. You guys need to find a less visible way in next time, and that was some serious Jumaji that Eric had to crawl through 🤣 Gonna be a good year for you guys 🔍
Nice video this. Well done. I always wondered what was behind there. There was a hole in the wall once and I did occasionally have a look through in the early hours on the way home from the “Cokey “. If I knew it was a graveyard I may have walked past a bit quicker ! 😂
hi steve thanks for watching glad you liked it i was going to walk round the back but there was to many curtain twitchers ha ha the cokey wow that takes me back
Thank you for this interesting video, no one would know that this cemetery was there and it should not be forgotten, nor the souls who are buried there,
Hi, I'd love to have a chat with you & you'll see why in a minute. I loved this video because, apart from the odd photo, I've never seen inside Green Lane, even though the data you cite at the beginning of the video is actually my work. Thank you so much for the care & respect you both took when inside; your sincerity is clear for all to see. Perhaps #PoweroftheViz should be a hashtag! No, it's not true that cemeteries (Jewish or otherwise) are shut after a certain number of generations, not least because that would mean keeping tabs on the descendants of everyone buried there. The reality is that most Jewish cemeteries, like this one, were privately owned by one particular synagogue or burial society and, when that organisation doesn't have the money to maintain the cemetery, or shuts down (both of which were the case for Green Lane), there's nothing left to be done. Synagogues aren't like churches, who have a central diocese to provide funding; we are private organisations, funded by annual membership subscriptions, like a gym or a golf club. The demographics of the Anglo-Jewish community are such that provincial communities like Liverpool have declined to the extent that there's no money left to maintain these places. (Incidentally, Springwood & Lowerhouse Lane Jewish Cemeteries are maintained by the council & are attached to larger municipal cemeteries). And no, you wouldn't have found Rex Makin's parents at Green Lane; they're buried elsewhere. After all, Green Lane closed in 1921 & Rex wasn't born till 1925. I was the chairman of the restoration project for Deane Road Cemetery (mentioned in these comments by another viewer) from 2007-12, which benefited from Lottery funding. Sadly, there's been lots of regrowth in recent years but I'd be happy to show you round what's still accessible there & you'd be welcome to film. Postcode is L7 0ET, website is matt-houghton.squarespace.com/ (long story - we lost the deaneroadcemetery.com domain & need to get a new one!). Do please get in touch; Google me if you need to. Saul Marks.
In the mid/late seventies I - and friends- used to frequent this graveyard. The access was from the opposite side to this - from what was Bankfield playing fields and a small youth club on the edge of the cemetery. You could just simply hop over a small wall to gain access.
Maybe the Meakin family might make a big effort to reclaim the graveyard, and kill off the ivy, which is a terribly invasive creeping vine plant, it will eventually force the graves over and destroy them. You both did a good walk and tried to move around the craves, but there are so many and walking was difficult. Keep up the good information work.
Hi George, loved the content, I know you were being respectful but I was desperate for you to read some of the headstones. A lot of the Liverpool Merchants from the late 1700s onwards would have been Jewish and some will have had street s named after them. There was/is a very old cemetery facing Walton Prison long since closed but I think you can get access to it. It was said to be the oldest cemetery in Liverpool but I don’t know if that’s true or not.
hi bernadette thanks for watching glad you liked the video believe me i would have loved to show them all but once inside it was a case of getting the footage and getting out...if that makes sense didnt want to dwell to long in here ill take a look at that walton one cheers thanks again
Actually, I think only three streets in Liverpool are named after Jewish people: Solomon St, Balm St & Gilead St, all in Kensington. They're named after a quack doctor named Solomon who sold a thing called the "Balm of Gilead". He died in the 1820s if I remember & was buried in a private mausoleum, long since disappeared. But plenty of notable people were buried at both Green Lane & Deane Road in the Victorian era.
Hi George and Eric, l remember the cemetery years ago when I lived around there, but I always remember it locked up such a shame to see it so neglected as I mentioned to Eric hopefully after people watching your videos something might be done to tidy up the cemetery thanks for sharing 👍
hi martin thanks for watching i wonder how many more place there are like this in liverpool such a shame indeed seeing this like this hopefully the right people see this and something gets done with the place
@@g2emedia1977 been along there a couple of times and go through Tuebrook to get into town (recognised you were near mine at the begining) and never even knew there was that plot behind the church.
I live not far from there. I'm not originally from the area but I know it well and often wondered what used to be there. I thought it was possibly where an old victorian mansion used to be but this vid answers that question. Nice one.
i used to work here years ago and never even knew it myself mad i used to pass through loads of times aswell im pretty sure i read somewhere it was an old house before the cemetery the exterior certainley gives it that impression thanks for watching david much appreciated glad you liked it
@@davidmichaels6323 was in that years ago remeber when they dug it up i think it was in 2011 seen that little exposed section mentiones it to eric the other day so possibly go down and film that cheers david
last time i attempted it it was up over my chest had to crouch over it wasnt the best of explores the section over the road is massive inside about 6ft high
I went exploring there about 20 years ago. It looked the same back then as it does today. We were told the bodies had been moved to another cemetery, not sure how true that is.
I still don't understand why it's sealed off. And couldn't they get people doing community service to maintain it if nothing else? I'm sure there'd be people also willing to volunteer.
@@FlickeringEmber It's sealed to deter vandals; thankfully Jewish cemeteries are fairly safe in Liverpool (unlike in Manchester) but anti-Semitism springs up everywhere sooner or later. In the restoration of Deane Road, we did use the Probation Service for several years for maintenance, but they're not very reliable. They have a lot of demand for the free labour & are stretched quite thinly. They'd come every week for a while then not at all for months. Plus they didn't have all the necessary equipment. Absolutely better than nothing, but not a long term solution, unfortunately! Volunteers would be very welcome though, particularly at Deane Road (where you can get in & out through gates with keys, as opposed to over walls with ladders lol!)
I worked in banks and building societies all over Liverpool back in the 1980s and 90s and we all knew Rex Makin's name, but i had no idea about this cemetery. Having visited Jewish cemeteries in Krakow and Prague, I'd love to be able to walk round this one. What a shame it's been closed up and left to nature.
Ivy can be as aggressive as Bramble, once it gets hold; and very hard to keep back once cleared. A land of the dead, where the Ivy grows; now lost forever where nobody goes. Relatives lost, to the community, gone; lost to its visitors, nobody comes, not a sole, not a one.
Such a shame that this graveyard is in such an awful state. It'd be great if some local people set up a Friends Of" type of group like some cemeteries have, to restore the place and allow it to regain its rightful place in the community.
When I saw this video scheduled the other day, I thought to myself, does he know about the one in tuebrook lol. I went to st Cecilia's church and school, I knew some of the kids from my school used to hang out in there when they where feeling brave, wasn't for me though.
i'm going to do a paranormal investigation on this cemetery on friday 🤟 can't wait to see what we discover! boss vid G2E for letting people know the history 🤙
A family lived in the house were the bricked up window is now , in the early to mid 70s The surname was Lewis (Peter was fathers name) and daughter Denise was a friend of mine and went to st Cecelias school across the road !
Loved this very interesting, theres a jewish cemetery at allerton not the big cemetery with the gates but the smaller one on same side as the crematorium.
Hi George - I was inspired to google this cemetery after watching your video - turns out there’s a group who research the history of such cemeteries . I sent them a link to your video, and they’d like you to get in touch - is there a way they can contact you - I have the email of the lady I’ve been talking to there 👍
😂😂 I made and fitted that black steel door, it was a wooden board but someone booted it in, it is very overgrown but the place is monitored by Jewish custodians who look after all the Jewish cemeteries in Liverpool
Depends what you mean by "clear". It took us 7 years & nearly £500k to restore Deane Road, starting informally, then creating a committee, tendering for funding, getting contractors, actioning the plans etc.
The “Jewish writing” is Hebrew, spoken thousands of years ago & now the language of the State of Israel. The Liverpool Jewish community has greatly decreased over the years & many synagogues have been closed!
just googled and found this How long do cemeteries keep graves in the UK? The exclusive right of burial (or grave deed) is sold for 75 or 99 years. For a cremated remains plot, the exclusive right of burial is sold for 75 or 99 years. These are known as 'purchased graves' and although you never actually own the ground you do own the exclusive rights to bury in your purchased plot.13 Feb 2023
That one isn't abandoned. It closed for burials in 1983 but is still maintained by a Friends Of group who circulate for annual donations. Although bigger than both Green Lane & Deane Road, it's younger (opened 1896) & is far lower maintenance. It's also visited more regularly because it contains parents & grandparents of many people who still live in Liverpool today.
It was the first of two cemeteries belonging to Liverpool New Hebrew Congregation, which was formed in 1838, hence why the cemetery was consecrated in 1839. It closed in 1921 when they opened their second burial ground at Long Lane, in Fazakerley. In 1937, the congregation merged with a smaller one & moved to Greenbank Drive. The congregation closed down in January 2008. All private (non-Council-maintained) Jewish cemeteries are kept locked to deter vandals but, unfortunately, congregations haven't often had the money to maintain their old cemeteries.
@@laurenmaher5044 No, he's buried at Broad Green because it's the active cemetery of Liverpool *Old* Hebrew Congregation & Green Lane was the inactive cemetery of Liverpool *New* Hebrew Congregation. Although Rex was a member of both congregations at various times, LNHC closed in 2008, leaving him only a member of LOHC.
Am I the only one whose finding this place 'odd'? Seeing Makins plaque looking new and shiny makes 'sense,' in view of the restoration work, but what about the brand new looking marble obelisk gravestone? There doesn't appear to be any access nor signs of regular activity therefore it's not a cemetery, nobody is visiting or paying their respects to the deceased, are they? Another thing not right here is finding gravestones NOT covered in ivy. Even the tree trunks are wrapped in it, its everywhere. No ivy means it's new.
@@g2emedia1977I get the impression that even if someone explained what this all this meant, I'd still be none the wiser. I have no framework for it contextually - how could I hope to make sense of a subject if it involves practices, ceremonies or beliefs that are literally alien to my own? Where would you even begin to start making sense of what this space is 'really' about?
Is it possible that the Ivy will not cling to very smooth surfaces like the shiny black granite. The Makin sign was also very smooth. Could explain why they look new. Good content George, thanks mate.
As far as I know, if nobody has been buried there after one hundred years. They can deconcigrate the ground and relocate the bodies. Then build on the land
@@g2emedia1977no. You didn’t. And thanks so much for this video. Two of my great great grandparents are buried here. I tried to find out how I could pay my respects when I was visiting from New Zealand a few years ago and despite numerous emails, got nowhere. I was fobbed off with nonsense. To leave the site of people’s remains in this state is a travesty. Next time I’m in Liverpool I’ll organise other descendants to jump the fence and do some work to remove vegetation. It’s beyond disgusting to be prohibited from visiting family member’s graves. Thanks for your work and the respect you showed in what is now an insult to the dead.
@@g2emedia1977 yeah that’s the one I think off arundel avenue of smithdown. Think they’ve cleaned it up from what I can see now, sure it was all unkempt many years when we was whippersnappers and use to climb over an jump in there
May they all Rest in peace 🙏
Great video. You've done what I have wanted to do for a few years, now I don't have to. My 2nd great grand parents were laid to rest here, Rebecca 1870 and Charles 1876. Thanks.
Brilliant video this mate, never knew that cemetery was there the amount of times I’ve walked past, and down the side of St Cecillia’s church. Definitely needs something doing to this, to keep the memories of the forgotten alive.
thank you harry glad you liked it im the same i had no idea it was there just goes to show
thanks for watching mate
Great video George. I was surprised at the lack of maintenance. I remember the Deane Road Jewish Cemetery was once in a similar condition and there was a project to restore it and it's now restored. Maybe with more people becoming aware of its condition there will be future plans to restore it. The Jewish community has declined in numbers in Liverpool but I'm sure there are Jewish people in Liverpool and outside our region and even abroad who have people in their family tree buried here and would like to see it restored so they can see those gravestones properly. Well done for bringing attention to this cemetery.
thanks mate glad you liked it
im surprised at the lack to ive never seen anything like this in all my life
hopefully this video will get to the right person or people and it will be restored and reopened
ahh yeh the deane road one wasnt that in a similar state and now its restored
thanks for watching mate
@@g2emedia1977 Done some research. Various entries in Liverpool census records and directories list the site as a Jewish Cemetery with a resident keeper, gardener or caretaker. The Jump family were there for many years with John Jump there as a gardener in 1851, 1861 and 1871, he is in Gore's Directory 1870 as keeper, after his death his widow Jane Jump is in Gore's Directory 1880 and 1890 (address in 1880 was 21 Green Lane, in 1890 it was 27 Green Lane) then daughter Miss Jane Jump is in Gore’s Directory 1900. Different keepers are named in each Kelly's Directory for 1911, 1930 and 1952. Some maps for the site say mortuary chapel so there was definitely a building onsite at one time for a keeper to live there with their family members.
ahh cool cheers mate i think that black metal gate leads to some sort of building looking back now when me and eric came across it near the end of the video
thanks for the info mate
Hang on, I lived on Deane Road and never knew about the cemetery there either. Such a shame.
I was the chairman of the restoration of Deane Road but, sadly, nature has fought back in recent years & it needs a lot of work again.
How did I not know this was there? I grew up on one of the streets just off Green Lane, attended judo lessons in the church next door, and my sister actually went to the junior school on the other side. I always thought that patch of trees behind the wall belonged to the church!
its surprising most locals dont even know about it either
i think most people think it belongs to the school or church...just goes to show whats behind some walls
thanks for watching
Great video. My great grandfather is buried there.
thanks for watching such a shame they are left like that
@@g2emedia1977 - 100% - Terrible. My parents left Liverpool in the 1960s when I was a baby.
I came across this cemetery by chance some years ago. I was conducting a funeral at St Cecillia's Church which is next door to the cemetery. I went on google satellite but it was very overgrown and I couldn't see any detail. It was great to be able to see inside and I was surprised how similar it was to a jewish cemetery I visited in Krakow. Interesting story especially about Rex Makin, he used to live on Queens Drive just past the Fiveways going towards Allerton Road. I remember walking home from work past his house and there always used to be some exotic car parked on the driveway. Great Video as usual and good to see you both out and about.
Another interesting video, amazing how nature reclaims everything. I love these little adventures that you and Eric go on. Thanks guys.
thanks for watching brian glad you liked it mate
stay tuned plenty more adventures coming
Fab guys, wondered what happened to the ladder 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 That place needs a serious clean-up, it's sacrilege to leave it like that 😲
Some seriously amazing stuff in there 🪦🪦🪦🪦🪦
thanks for watching helen lived doing this and was only possible with a mate from work telling me about it...i owe him
seriously though sad seeing it like this
thanks for watching helen
@@g2emedia1977 That's ok, I'll watch it properly tmrw - had to get up early for am MRI this morning (caught a bug up town that prevented last week's) ... left leg isn't working properly.
You guys need to find a less visible way in next time, and that was some serious Jumaji that Eric had to crawl through 🤣 Gonna be a good year for you guys 🔍
Nice video this. Well done. I always wondered what was behind there. There was a hole in the wall once and I did occasionally have a look through in the early hours on the way home from the “Cokey “. If I knew it was a graveyard I may have walked past a bit quicker ! 😂
hi steve thanks for watching glad you liked it
i was going to walk round the back but there was to many curtain twitchers ha ha
the cokey wow that takes me back
Thank you for this interesting video, no one would know that this cemetery was there and it should not be forgotten, nor the souls who are buried there,
Drive past that place every week and never knew it existed until a couple of weeks ago. Remarkable, and quite sad.
Hi, I'd love to have a chat with you & you'll see why in a minute.
I loved this video because, apart from the odd photo, I've never seen inside Green Lane, even though the data you cite at the beginning of the video is actually my work. Thank you so much for the care & respect you both took when inside; your sincerity is clear for all to see. Perhaps #PoweroftheViz should be a hashtag!
No, it's not true that cemeteries (Jewish or otherwise) are shut after a certain number of generations, not least because that would mean keeping tabs on the descendants of everyone buried there. The reality is that most Jewish cemeteries, like this one, were privately owned by one particular synagogue or burial society and, when that organisation doesn't have the money to maintain the cemetery, or shuts down (both of which were the case for Green Lane), there's nothing left to be done. Synagogues aren't like churches, who have a central diocese to provide funding; we are private organisations, funded by annual membership subscriptions, like a gym or a golf club. The demographics of the Anglo-Jewish community are such that provincial communities like Liverpool have declined to the extent that there's no money left to maintain these places. (Incidentally, Springwood & Lowerhouse Lane Jewish Cemeteries are maintained by the council & are attached to larger municipal cemeteries).
And no, you wouldn't have found Rex Makin's parents at Green Lane; they're buried elsewhere. After all, Green Lane closed in 1921 & Rex wasn't born till 1925.
I was the chairman of the restoration project for Deane Road Cemetery (mentioned in these comments by another viewer) from 2007-12, which benefited from Lottery funding. Sadly, there's been lots of regrowth in recent years but I'd be happy to show you round what's still accessible there & you'd be welcome to film. Postcode is L7 0ET, website is matt-houghton.squarespace.com/ (long story - we lost the deaneroadcemetery.com domain & need to get a new one!).
Do please get in touch; Google me if you need to.
Saul Marks.
In the mid/late seventies I - and friends- used to frequent this graveyard. The access was from the opposite side to this - from what was Bankfield playing fields and a small youth club on the edge of the cemetery. You could just simply hop over a small wall to gain access.
Maybe the Meakin family might make a big effort to reclaim the graveyard, and kill off the ivy, which is a terribly invasive creeping vine plant, it will eventually force the graves over and destroy them. You both did a good walk and tried to move around the craves, but there are so many and walking was difficult. Keep up the good information work.
Hi George, loved the content, I know you were being respectful but I was desperate for you to read some of the headstones. A lot of the Liverpool Merchants from the late 1700s onwards would have been Jewish and some will have had street s named after them. There was/is a very old cemetery facing Walton Prison long since closed but I think you can get access to it. It was said to be the oldest cemetery in Liverpool but I don’t know if that’s true or not.
hi bernadette thanks for watching glad you liked the video
believe me i would have loved to show them all but once inside it was a case of getting the footage and getting out...if that makes sense didnt want to dwell to long in here
ill take a look at that walton one cheers
thanks again
Actually, I think only three streets in Liverpool are named after Jewish people: Solomon St, Balm St & Gilead St, all in Kensington. They're named after a quack doctor named Solomon who sold a thing called the "Balm of Gilead". He died in the 1820s if I remember & was buried in a private mausoleum, long since disappeared.
But plenty of notable people were buried at both Green Lane & Deane Road in the Victorian era.
I live in Tuebrook and always wondered what was there, good vid mate!
cheers glad you liked it hopefully something can be done with the place
Hi George and Eric, l remember the cemetery years ago when I lived around there, but I always remember it locked up such a shame to see it so neglected as I mentioned to Eric hopefully after people watching your videos something might be done to tidy up the cemetery thanks for sharing 👍
hi martin thanks for watching i wonder how many more place there are like this in liverpool
such a shame indeed seeing this like this hopefully the right people see this and something gets done with the place
Sad to see peoples final resting places in such a sorry and forgotten state. However, it really does make it something kind of special...
it really is isnt it mate just left and forgotten about in the middle of a busy road
thanks for watching matt
@@g2emedia1977 been along there a couple of times and go through Tuebrook to get into town (recognised you were near mine at the begining) and never even knew there was that plot behind the church.
I live not far from there. I'm not originally from the area but I know it well and often wondered what used to be there. I thought it was possibly where an old victorian mansion used to be but this vid answers that question. Nice one.
i used to work here years ago and never even knew it myself mad i used to pass through loads of times aswell
im pretty sure i read somewhere it was an old house before the cemetery the exterior certainley gives it that impression
thanks for watching david much appreciated glad you liked it
On a side note, an open section of the Tue Brook still remains close to there. It's behind St. Cecilias club, over a wall.
@@davidmichaels6323 was in that years ago remeber when they dug it up i think it was in 2011 seen that little exposed section mentiones it to eric the other day so possibly go down and film that cheers david
Good one. I probably should've known you knew about it and be knee deep in it by now.
last time i attempted it it was up over my chest had to crouch over it wasnt the best of explores the section over the road is massive inside about 6ft high
just watched this wow what a place and video to match
well done george and eric for being so respectful
thanks for watching glad you liked the vid
yes times like this and places like these you cant mess around
thanks again
Interesting piece of local history 👍
Thanks for watching
That was a really interesting video, great find 👍
thank you joan thanks for watching
I went exploring there about 20 years ago. It looked the same back then as it does today. We were told the bodies had been moved to another cemetery, not sure how true that is.
I still don't understand why it's sealed off. And couldn't they get people doing community service to maintain it if nothing else? I'm sure there'd be people also willing to volunteer.
Not true at all; they're all still there!
@@FlickeringEmber It's sealed to deter vandals; thankfully Jewish cemeteries are fairly safe in Liverpool (unlike in Manchester) but anti-Semitism springs up everywhere sooner or later.
In the restoration of Deane Road, we did use the Probation Service for several years for maintenance, but they're not very reliable. They have a lot of demand for the free labour & are stretched quite thinly. They'd come every week for a while then not at all for months. Plus they didn't have all the necessary equipment. Absolutely better than nothing, but not a long term solution, unfortunately!
Volunteers would be very welcome though, particularly at Deane Road (where you can get in & out through gates with keys, as opposed to over walls with ladders lol!)
I worked in banks and building societies all over Liverpool back in the 1980s and 90s and we all knew Rex Makin's name, but i had no idea about this cemetery. Having visited Jewish cemeteries in Krakow and Prague, I'd love to be able to walk round this one. What a shame it's been closed up and left to nature.
Check out Deane Road cemetery in Kensington.
will do cheers isnt that locked nowadays after it was restored
@@g2emedia1977 yea but I’m sure you’ll find a way in 😉
where theres a will 😄
@@AW-xp9cj Happy to give you a tour; I'm one of several people with keys!
Isn’t the original Tue Brook (stream) along there somewhere? I believe it still exists in the area. But not sure where. X
stay tuned one of our next vids this
It’s beautiful and so peaceful .
Ivy can be as aggressive as Bramble, once it gets hold; and very hard to keep back once cleared.
A land of the dead, where the Ivy grows;
now lost forever where nobody goes.
Relatives lost, to the community, gone;
lost to its visitors, nobody comes,
not a sole, not a one.
On point with the video as always lads
Really enjoyed this george
thank you for watching glad you liked it
lots more to come stay tuned
Are these the same Makins, the solicitors?
yes
lol just thought id check google about this. noticed that the echo had an article on someone getting in there... its talking about you two! lol.
Ha ha yeh mad one this and one of the best
Thanks for watching
Good vid very interesting Thanks
Thanks glad you enjoyed it
Fantastic to see mate 👍
thanks for watching dude
Such a shame that this graveyard is in such an awful state. It'd be great if some local people set up a Friends Of" type of group like some cemeteries have, to restore the place and allow it to regain its rightful place in the community.
It's like a set from a horror movie 🎬 great video mate 👍
i love anything like this
thanks for watching mate
used to jump over the wall when we were kids,also just further along green lane,there was a lunatic asylum.
its a really nice time capsule this place indeed
When I saw this video scheduled the other day, I thought to myself, does he know about the one in tuebrook lol. I went to st Cecilia's church and school, I knew some of the kids from my school used to hang out in there when they where feeling brave, wasn't for me though.
lol i had no idea mate about this one totally amazed by the place and how the headstones are covered in decades of ivy
thanks for watching tom
The top of the gate posts can be seen on google streetview, 2008 and the drop curb taken out 2020.
cool cheers just took a look at that
i'm going to do a paranormal investigation on this cemetery on friday 🤟 can't wait to see what we discover! boss vid G2E for letting people know the history 🤙
Awesome id love to know the outcome of this
Thanks for watching glad you enjoyed it cheers
Great video lads, i just hope the other lot dont get on it and turn up and desecrate this part of our shared history!
A family lived in the house were the bricked up window is now , in the early to mid 70s The surname was Lewis (Peter was fathers name) and daughter Denise was a friend of mine and went to st Cecelias school across the road !
Loved this very interesting, theres a jewish cemetery at allerton not the big cemetery with the gates but the smaller one on same side as the crematorium.
Hi George - I was inspired to google this cemetery after watching your video - turns out there’s a group who research the history of such cemeteries . I sent them a link to your video, and they’d like you to get in touch - is there a way they can contact you - I have the email of the lady I’ve been talking to there 👍
hi mate thanks for watching i have an email which is g2emedia@outlook.com
this is the one i use for you tube messages
Cheers mate - I’ve just forwarded that on - I’m sure they’ll be in touch soon - they seemed pretty keen 👍
@@jonathanwatson2427 thanks matey
😂😂 I made and fitted that black steel door, it was a wooden board but someone booted it in, it is very overgrown but the place is monitored by Jewish custodians who look after all the Jewish cemeteries in Liverpool
how much would it take to clear it do you think
Depends how you clear it i suppose
Depends what you mean by "clear". It took us 7 years & nearly £500k to restore Deane Road, starting informally, then creating a committee, tendering for funding, getting contractors, actioning the plans etc.
The “Jewish writing” is Hebrew, spoken thousands of years ago & now the language of the State of Israel. The Liverpool Jewish community has greatly decreased over the years & many synagogues have been closed!
i remember when they closed greenbank that is still in a sorry state many years later sad really
Wow the Jews used to be everywhere back in the day mind you they only go where the money is 😊
At least that place will never get built on
@@davelar3868 Less of the racism, if you don't mind!
@@saulmarkshahahahha go buy a Bible from the 1800’s upto 1900 and you will see its called PALESTINE.
We used to play in there in the late 90s and it was a mess then
Trees have taken over ad and it's now a green space. Kind of gives meaning to the phrase "earth to earth".
just googled and found this
How long do cemeteries keep graves in the UK?
The exclusive right of burial (or grave deed) is sold for 75 or 99 years. For a cremated remains plot, the exclusive right of burial is sold for 75 or 99 years. These are known as 'purchased graves' and although you never actually own the ground you do own the exclusive rights to bury in your purchased plot.13 Feb 2023
Actually, this is a private burial ground. The family don't own or lease the land on which their relative is buried.
There is another Jewish abandoned graveyard in Walton of Rice Lane
That one isn't abandoned. It closed for burials in 1983 but is still maintained by a Friends Of group who circulate for annual donations. Although bigger than both Green Lane & Deane Road, it's younger (opened 1896) & is far lower maintenance. It's also visited more regularly because it contains parents & grandparents of many people who still live in Liverpool today.
my word this looks good
it really was stay tuned.....
Where is it? 😮
half way down green lane
Really sad but I suppose they're left in peace
Hiya Rex makins son is stil alive maybe you could get some information from him why it is closed and left to rot ?
hiya carol
that would be nice to find that out
Rex is buried in broadgreen, presumably because green lane had closed
It was the first of two cemeteries belonging to Liverpool New Hebrew Congregation, which was formed in 1838, hence why the cemetery was consecrated in 1839. It closed in 1921 when they opened their second burial ground at Long Lane, in Fazakerley. In 1937, the congregation merged with a smaller one & moved to Greenbank Drive. The congregation closed down in January 2008. All private (non-Council-maintained) Jewish cemeteries are kept locked to deter vandals but, unfortunately, congregations haven't often had the money to maintain their old cemeteries.
@@laurenmaher5044 No, he's buried at Broad Green because it's the active cemetery of Liverpool *Old* Hebrew Congregation & Green Lane was the inactive cemetery of Liverpool *New* Hebrew Congregation. Although Rex was a member of both congregations at various times, LNHC closed in 2008, leaving him only a member of LOHC.
Making of a great nature reserve and wildlife sanctuary. Maybe tidying is not the best approach.
Am I the only one whose finding this place 'odd'? Seeing Makins plaque looking new and shiny makes 'sense,' in view of the restoration work, but what about the brand new looking marble obelisk gravestone? There doesn't appear to be any access nor signs of regular activity therefore it's not a cemetery, nobody is visiting or paying their respects to the deceased, are they? Another thing not right here is finding gravestones NOT covered in ivy. Even the tree trunks are wrapped in it, its everywhere. No ivy means it's new.
i thought tbe place looked to clean wierd isnt it
@@g2emedia1977I get the impression that even if someone explained what this all this meant, I'd still be none the wiser. I have no framework for it contextually - how could I hope to make sense of a subject if it involves practices, ceremonies or beliefs that are literally alien to my own? Where would you even begin to start making sense of what this space is 'really' about?
And the Freemason symbol on some of the graves, surely their religion is Judaism not freemasonry
Is it possible that the Ivy will not cling to very smooth surfaces like the shiny black granite. The Makin sign was also very smooth. Could explain why they look new. Good content George, thanks mate.
@@bluenose1744 It's a valid point my friend - I'll go see if it's the case. I'll get back in touch.
THERE UST TO BE IRON BARS ON THEM WINDOWS SO YA COULD SEE IN TO THE GRAVE YARD
really wow didnt know that
Graves are just leased out for 99 years from the date the last person is put in them
Actually, this is a private burial ground. The family don't own or lease the land on which their relative is buried.
I think after 50 yrs of neglect the council can reclaim the land and use it again ? not sure if thats true or not.
It's privately owned land.
As far as I know, if nobody has been buried there after one hundred years. They can deconcigrate the ground and relocate the bodies. Then build on the land
Actually, this is a private burial ground so they can't.
Such a shame 😢
I used to bunk school in that cemetery
really that nuts did it all look the same back then
@@g2emedia1977 yes it did really
It was in the mid eighties. Before the sexy rexy sign
I believe Rex Makin is buried in a Jewish cemetery, In Broadgreen according to the echo
Thats in a grave state.
The council will have houses built on there soon.
deffo
God forbid the council allow anything negative done to this Holy ground.
No they won't; it's privately owned land. They can't touch it.
Walk in down the side saying were avoiding the graves then back out down the middle 😂
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They will probably knock it down and build nice apartments for refugees (all free of course)
Good for a ghost hunt
That’s disgusting that
isnt it just
I do hope that you did get permission from the Liverpool jewish authorities to do this.
nope did i need to?
@@g2emedia1977no. You didn’t. And thanks so much for this video. Two of my great great grandparents are buried here.
I tried to find out how I could pay my respects when I was visiting from New Zealand a few years ago and despite numerous emails, got nowhere. I was fobbed off with nonsense.
To leave the site of people’s remains in this state is a travesty. Next time I’m in Liverpool I’ll organise other descendants to jump the fence and do some work to remove vegetation.
It’s beyond disgusting to be prohibited from visiting family member’s graves.
Thanks for your work and the respect you showed in what is now an insult to the dead.
What about the one in dingle
Wheres that?
There’s another abdonned Jewish cem behind the Asda on smithdown
thats been preserved hasnt it the quaker one?
@@g2emedia1977 yeah that’s the one I think off arundel avenue of smithdown. Think they’ve cleaned it up from what I can see now, sure it was all unkempt many years when we was whippersnappers and use to climb over an jump in there