IS THIS THE BEST VALUE GARDEN BUILDING IN THE COUNTRY!?
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- Installation day of this 22x14ft garden room!
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An inspiring book with lots of ideas for a variety of garden buildings The instructions are detailed and clear with plenty of photos. As a beginner th-cam.com/users/postUgkxBE-xSmFU7PIaMFUmmhnFxE035s5svtxeI was looking for a manual that would walk me through the basics with detailed instructions and this book does just that. The book caters to both the beginner and more experienced DIY enthusiast with builds varying in complexity, from straightforward projects such as the one we've completed, to more ambitious builds. Absolutely on trend, with instructions on how to install solar panels, green roofs and sweet chestnut shakes - It's given me lots of ideas for future projects!
There are a tonne of things wrong with this building. IMO, it isn't going to last more than a couple of years before it starts sagging and rotting. The floor has no DPC so the damp will travel up through the pad and into the flooring joists, if you can even call them joists. The exterior walls are using, from what I can see, 2x1 battons, not 4x2 framing timber. The roof pretty much the same. There's barely any structural integrity in the building at all. Sorry but to anyone considering this, don't. It's a waste of money and you'll regret it. Sprry to the OP, but there's no way you should be recommending this. You could build this yourself to a far better standard for < £5k
I’m in financial trouble, I live on my own with my dog in a 1 bed flat, thinking of selling and doing this in my mums garden to live! This is really helpful sir thank you
Hope you are ok 😊
no adhesive on the Firestone membrane connection with the roof panels. no upright support of any note under the makeshift 2 6x2's. no proper lintels over the doors or windows. don't be putting anything heavy on that roof.
All the negative comments no doubt come from those that earn their living constructing garden offices. The prices are often ridiculous. I looked at all the options 8 years ago. In the end bought a high end shed 10ft by 8ft for £900. Insulated it for a few hundred quid, ran the electrics in for not much. I reckon my total spend was less that £2000. It has a desk, arm chair, drinks cabinet, TV and is toasty warm in the UK winter with a small log burner. Still going strong 8 years later. Don't be seduced by the adverts. A bit of time and basic DIY skills, you can do it for a lot less.
6k spent doing this DIY properly would of been pretty decent, watching a few videos would of taught you most you need to know, for a company this is pretty bad, give a year before floor will rot, no damp separation, no decent air flow. opening timbers should be double the thickness they are, no header will mean the roof will sag on that ali frame and doors won’t open, rubber roof will stretch and contract in the heat/cold cycle, if the wind doesn’t rip it the birds will, that really needs mechanical fixing, glue or bars, pretty misleading company hope you kept the guarantee, you will need it
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I agree for the most part. I don't however, agree with your use of "of" instead of "have"
I did think that there is very little, if any, damp protection but then thought... this was a massively speeded up video and they just didn't show a lot of the details. They must have insulated properly and must have bonded the roof and must have put in proper damp protection. Then again... maybe not
I build these myself for my clients and the quality of this one is definitely not to the standard of a professional garden room. The timber thickness aren’t no where near what’s required for this size of building. Looks great from a distance but the lesser quality will start to prove its toll over time especially the timber exterior, the sheet board flooring and foundation. Other than that i hope it does the job well enough for what you intend! 😁
Its cheap for a reason, but cheap does not = great value. If it was a storage shed fine, but why spend all that money on windows and bifold doors if the structure is popsicle sticks. Looks like untreated C16 2x3s, no sheathing other than some thin ship lap, no proper headers. I'm from the states originally and learned to frame there where code would be a minimum 2x8 header for that bifold. The cladding doesn't look like its on counter battens which puts the structural studs at risk for rot. Barely any air gap between the floor and concrete pad which is also inviting rot. Doesn't even look like the minimum of 50mm. My current build is a bit bigger (about 500sq ft), but LESS fenestration on the front wall. I built with C24 2x4s 600OC, 11mm OSB sheathing under cladding/battens, and noggins and the engineer barely passed the racking calculations (we'll be adding internal walls eventually which will give us plenty of safety factor). This build definitely wouldn't pass the new Part L regs for insulation either. Even with 70mm Celotex in the walls and the 25mm air gap they want insulated drywall to pass. We had do do 90mm inbetween rafters and 90mm over rafter for the roof. We had to go 140mm cele and vapour barrier in the floor.
The rubber roof isn't even bonded! Few tacks around the facia with a 4x1 fixed to it. It's shit
For all the negatives out there, not everyone has 20 plus k to spend on a garden building, or would want to, yes there will be sacrifices with cheaper options like longevity etc but the guys happy, who cares, had an even cheaper version for 10 years now, still solid and watertight
Can’t believe the boy dared walk on the roof. Looks alright from a distance. More of a Lightweight shed than a garden room
Looks like 12mm or 16mm cladding, and base was crazy flimsy (3x2 studs best case and thin ply)... The shocker is how the main wall is holding those two windows, door and especially bifolds lol... Dont even want to get started on roof (rubber lining saved him but it will get damp being a cold roof - condensation). They put few 3x2s on sides and top of bifold
Would like to see another video in 2 years to see how it's lasting. Vapour barrier with no battens on whitewood. £6000 is cheap for a reason. Lots of corners cut.
amigo the best woods always will damage and can be repaired too,
in this case, if I want to have a summer house absolutely pay a good price to not have any headaches in a couple of years
Check out how the shed looks a year on after several storms and the inside finished off 😊 th-cam.com/video/PEqx5exXNOo/w-d-xo.htmlsi=IJ44BUOW-Bh_Lnhb
Yep hows that going to work if insulated with no ventilation behind the cladding? You get what you pay for!
@@DudeStuff it's only been one winter buddy. Trust me it's not going to last. This is coming from someone who does this for a living properly.
I hope it does but it won't. Membrane and battons go together for a reason. Good luck to you though pal.
Surprised they didn’t glue the roof membrane down, had experience of high winds lifting a large rubber roof
That's why they were cheaper 🙈
Looks good and I'm sorry but that's where the positive comments end, I have been building sheds, summerhouses and garden rooms for around 10 years now and I'm afraid the quality just isn't there, but you get what you pay for. My main concern though is your safety with those 6x2s above your head, from what I can see on the video they are just up there with screw and hope, at the very least get yourself some 4x4 posts underneath the ends of it ASAP, or I'd hate to see what happens when it has a few inches of snow on top of it!!
Thanks Gareth probably will do that cheers
Nice one Steve 👍 great studio build now you have room to work mate will pop over this week and
See you
If you sell something with a firestone rubber roof membrane, it should be fitted properly according to the manufacturers guidelines.
Not just nailed round the edge,
Joists and lintels should have solid uprights supprting them, the roof should have storm ties or truss clips, there should be some kind of wind bracing.
Overall it looks a good kit, but could benefit from a bit more time spent doing things properly and a few extra timbers,
and use the proper edge trims, it's not hard to fit a rubber roof membrane to a pent roof correctly if you do your research, from the snapshot installation, my guess is that this was installed nothing like properly.
The end supports between the floor panels, where the front and back panels meet in the centre, while needed to stop the floor sagging between the 'joists' at the sheet end is going to stop off the cross ventilation on that floor, possibly accelerating any rot through moisture build up, not much of a way around this when constructing such a large building in prefab sections and with sheet materials,
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Looks nice but I'd imagine your floor will last less than 6 years sat on the concrete pad.
Just doesn’t look right installed by Black pudding distribution agency.
Some people live in those things you know.
Bro I pretty much live in my bivvy let alone a shed 👍🏻💪🏻✊🏻
Nice shed but no comparison to a professionally built garden room hence the cost
I build these everyday for a living. Yeah a lot could have been done to make it’s stronger such as maybe using at least true 2x3’s and not 70x38 and 100% using at least 2x4 for the roof joist and even at that over that span they wouldn’t be suitable. But they guy seems to know what he’s bought and he’s happy with it and end of the day that’s all that matters I suppose. But 100% ply line the interior mate for the strength at least as shiplap tends to deteriorate a lot quicker than other variations of cladding.
Does one need permission from the council for this
roof's not got the generic 5 degree angle, puddle gonna form in the middle...
Decking oil will be good for the outside, soaks in rather than layers on top, water repellent in an hour, no peel. Easy to reapply ( I do my cabin annually), just make sure the wood it clean and dry. Been using Screwfix no nonsense decking oil for last six year 5L tins - other brands available of course. Cheers.
Best value? If you value your time no, as you'll be putting up a new one in 5 years. Expensive doors and windows surrounded by cardboard and hope.
Wood outdoor structures in England 🫣😵🥺😖😓😡💀
My girlfriends new build house has exactly the same problem with the bay windows . Open onto the 2 full length windows ever side so I put one of those spring door stops ever side .
This looks really cool and look forward to the next steps 👍
didn't they glue the rubber down? and no barrier/gap between the timber floor joists and the slab?
is that 6x2 seated on the vertical studs or hung? sure will sag. Tyvek for an upgrade! Tyvek is standard. The dude walked on that roof as well! nuts. As a shed perhaps is ok but not a living space. A restrictor on the french doors should have been though of by installer.
Bloody smashing place, I'd live in it ,wheelie bin outside for a bath 🛁 and a bbq 👌 👍 😀 🇬🇧
Check out how the shed looks a year on after several storms and the inside finished off 😊 th-cam.com/video/PEqx5exXNOo/w-d-xo.htmlsi=IJ44BUOW-Bh_Lnhb
Without knowing the price i cant say if its a good deal but it looks good.
Easy enough to do a few upgrades yourself, first thing I would do is glue that rubber roof down before it blows off as seen that happen and add guttering to take water away from building, you will see what I mean when it pours down 👍
Good value for money. Need to careful of the underneath of the floor for rotting ( would have been good to have it black jacked), not sure of the anchoring down , another top sill plate across the wall panels would have given great rigidity . However size wise is superb . Enjoy it
Only suggestion maybe fit some guttering. Superb garden room.
Cracking mate. A few neg comments on here. But for the money, i think your winning. Could it be improved? Yes, but that's like everything.
Keep it well treated and maintained. It will last.
Great video. New subscribers right here. 👍👍👍👍
Wow what a great office and work space it looks fantastic plenty of space to do bike builds.👍
Check out how the shed looks a year on after several storms and the inside finished off 😊 th-cam.com/video/PEqx5exXNOo/w-d-xo.htmlsi=IJ44BUOW-Bh_Lnhb
One good winter and you wouldn’t even be able to to use it for fire wood yet alone a garden room. Pose she’s that’s all it is
How can you talk value if you don’t give prices.
I enjoyed watching this video. Please can
you post another one with the final stages/completion and/or what it looks like now?
Check out how this shed looks now! After several storms, snow etc... th-cam.com/video/PEqx5exXNOo/w-d-xo.htmlsi=IJ44BUOW-Bh_Lnhb
That is perfect for a workshop/ chill out space.👍
Looks 👌. Id live in that lol. Are you going to insulate and board it out. You could partition it 2 make 2 rooms so you have a big workshop space and a review room in the smaller space . Xl bully gave the look of approval lol
You might want to think about insulating and lining it. Then perhaps get a small wood burner to burn scrap wood. It's surprising how cold an unheated/uninsulated structure can get.
But you have definitely got yourself a great little man cave there Dude. A few finishing touches and it'll be sorted......
+1 for the woodburner. -1 for the scrap wood though, unless you get on REALLY well with all your neighbours (and local council)!
or you can get a Tilley paraffin heater
I'd be pretty unhappy with having a next door neighbour with a wood burner going. Solar panels are what are needed for heating, and you CAN get rid of your scrap wood in ways other than in a wood burner
Surely that floor will rot as it’s just laid straight onto a concrete slab ?
How about fitting a stopper to the top corner of the door itself so that, whether the window is open or closed, the stopper will always contact a point along the window frame before the handle hits it. Cool build, its gonna be a great space when it's finished.
Its too low , my dad built a shed from scratch used Douglas fer on the outside its 8"6 high in the inside i wouldnt want one any lower after seeing his
It looks a bit flimsy to me. I see from the ebay advert that all timber is tanalised. Is that the case in your experience? I assume you are not using creosote but something else, I will be interested to see how well the treatment takes on tanalised timber. I would like to know the internal height. I am planning a mini gym with running machine for which you need a good height.
I would measure it but it fell down 😉
@@DudeStuff 😂😂😂
Did they not glue the rubber roofing down?
Dude don’t put laminate down...go with a LVT...it’s warmer and water proof ✌🏻💙👊🏻
Used LVT in my house is awful keeps coming apart wasted about 500 pounds on the stuff 😑 unless you have a solid floor smoother than an ice rink it seems to bend and come apart underlay stuff just seems to make it worse from my experience
Quite poor quality…..thin walls, no DPC or insulation in the floor, EPDM stapled?!? Surely it was glued to the roof??? Intimated it was maybe half of the 20grand quotes…..if it was best part of 10grand then you have been ripped off…..
Check out how the shed looks a year on after several storms and the inside finished off 😊 th-cam.com/video/PEqx5exXNOo/w-d-xo.htmlsi=IJ44BUOW-Bh_Lnhb
No gutter on the back run off is going to rot your floor out no air flow too dry out underneath.
That rubber roof should have been glued
Men and our shed porn ehh ! Quality mate.
Nice!! Happy for ya!
A ramped decking might be handy for bikes to roll in and out. Nice build!
Dude that looks the mutts nuts 👌👌
Hey, do you mind if I ask if you paid any extra costs to have this installed?? I'm interested in something like this😃
Hey you alright? I honestly have forgotten already tbh 😅 I'll have a look at my emails and get back to you. Feel free to email dudestuffuk@gmail.com and I'll help the best I can 🙂 I love it I'm so glad I did it now a year on its amazing inside.
*blue screen backgrounds 🤔
Man that's looking awesome
That roof is going to sag.
Happy for you Steve some more good builds to come
Excellent Job, please send a link where I can buy this product😊.
Many Thanks
I’m not impressed. Roof timbers well undersized, no steel above the bifold. No insulation under floor, in walls or doors (so why bother with double glazing), no wind bracing, rubber membrane not bonded down, no battens and air gap behind cladding. I’d like to see this after a storm.
We'll we've just had several I can't post pics but it looks great.
Looks great 👍, would it not have been better to leave access to the rear of the shed for maintenance ? 🔨
I can walk around the entire back of the shed no problem. Already painted the rear of shed in place
You're ok then
When does the structure arrive?
If you'd done comprehensive research you would realise why yours is 50% the cost of others. Really not impressed with any aspect of the structure or the build.😕
Check out how the shed looks a year on after several storms and the inside finished off 😊 th-cam.com/video/PEqx5exXNOo/w-d-xo.htmlsi=IJ44BUOW-Bh_Lnhb
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that looks like the bong..
The wood on the ground already, very... VERY bad design, I already know those guys knows nothing about building a durable house. Wood needs to be at least 20cm from the ground.
So an extremly expensive shed that wont last 😢
Can’t you turn the middle window the other way around? That way it opens onto the bi folding door and almost makes the openings symmetrical. The doors won’t open onto it either.
Sick build just like your bikes and I’m sure it will be up there with the best TH-cam garden workshops 👌
Like how you can flip most fridge doors I mean, to open the other way….
I thought you need building regs if you build so close to the boundary as its made out of wood.
Yep. One complaint from a neighbour and it'll all have to come down. Structure within 1m of boundary all need to be made from non-combustible material as building is over 15sqm. Cowboys who built it should know and have advised this.
What a load of rubbish, 6 grand down the drain.
How do you go about insulating the floor ?
Having watched a few scratch build videos I think doing that would be beyond me but I think I could possibly get something like this and modify, strengthen and improve it enough to make it nice enough.
That's what I've done. If you have 20+k to spend on one fair enough but I love mine so far.
Tell you what good on you that looks fantastic 👍Great watching your channel grow. Keep up the great content.
Great video! Just to check what’s the installation like overall and also how did you finish off the walls on the inside? I’m thinking of ordering this and making a tv room - do you think it will be suitable all year round for family use? Much appreciated.
@@shazman15 there's more videos showing how we did the inside on my channel 😊
@@DudeStuffyup just saw it!! Looks awesome. Love the flooring also.
Please do not attempt to build the same type of roof structure if it ever snows in your area, or with high winds. The roof is by far the weakest point of this structure, looks like 4x2in timber where it should be at least 6x2 with this span according to British regs. Not to mentioned its not strapped to the walls.....this shed with fancy doors will last for 5 years and will look tired af
Can you do a vid on how you are going to creosote the back of the shed! A very nice work space, looking forward to the internal finishing. Did they use adhesive under the rubber roof covering, it looked from the vid they just layed it on the roof and nailed the edges.
i think this is one of those get it up and make it look good for 6 months sort of jobbies, no adhesive, no structural support, no proper floor support ( those boards will sag over time between the runners and being sat on concrete can get wet over and over) , hopefully the wood is all treated but even then no ability for maintenance for protective reasons. 10k for it to last 5 years and done. insulation, fixtures and fitting will end this running near 18/20k all in.
i built my workshop like a pole barn from solid oak 3m sleepers and scaffolding boards with the floor raised up and a large opaque purpose made plastic roof for less than 12k and it'll still be there when im dead because of the materials used. things might look good but in reality this is just a oversized cheap shed with a couple windows and doors.
I've wanted to do the same in my garden for years.
It would be really interesting to see a solar build on this. I'll be all over that.
Can you do an honest review of it now it has been over a year?
I've done videos since of it finished off inside. Generally still very happy
Very nice. Regarding that window which could hit the door, I’d be inclined to block it up. It looks at bit too busy with the different doors And windows. Then a nice downlight on the wall instead.
Just a thought.
Where are the rubber roof liners from
Sir
Ignore all the negative comments, me and my dad build a similar structure for his workshops having milling and lathes in. The building is still sound after over 10years. Only thing that has needed repairs is the roof layer needed replacing but that is it.
Can the window be turned 180 so it opens the other way so the door handle will come nowhere near then
God help you when you have a few ton of snow on the roof.
End grain plywood on the bottom and exposed without anything to protect it seems like a bad idea over a few years, this will rot.
The Garden Room Guru shows you how to build your own and with a bit more strength than these pre-fab builds.
Self build is cheaper, especially using pallets and 2nd hand windows, but you have to be willing to do the work and source all materials yourself.
Going to build a 12 by 12 feet one soon.
Proper Mancave Dude
I'm watching a ton of videos on garden room s at the moment, and I can't see the value here. It looks cheap, which explains the cost.
Looks great proper space for your builds and such.
This is what i need for me music studio at end of my garden.
The neighbours will love you I am sure, that building will be a noisy as hell.
Stick a door stop on the frame, at the top or bottom of the frame itself, of the smaller central door. That way you won't need to screw into anything and it'll always keep the 2 doors apart, whether it's open or shut
Not sure if I’d be worried about the floor and damp coming through as it’s not insulated
Not bad for the price but that is way over the UK limits of size allowance isn't it???
Thinking of doing something similar. What's it like after 10 months?
Cheap for a reason
I’d of sacrificed bifolds and spent the money on a better structure !
Nice job that 👍
I'll give it 3 years.
that looks the business Steve 👍
Did this require planning permission at all?
Best to check your local council website or info rear garden sheds are generally OK but worth checking first
Looks class
Its a beautiful thing ! 👍
I would need extra support for the roof but its nice enjoy.
Does it snow there?
Wow hello boss how much cost dro thise one 6X 5 meter..