The most powerful objection to my views on the Gospel of Jesus considered

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  • I read from 'Unity and Diversity: An Inquiry Into the Character of Earliest Christianity' by Professor James D.G. Dunn.
    The institution of the Lord’s Supper in 1 Corinthians 11 (NRSV):
    'For I received from the Lord what I also handed on to you, that the Lord Jesus on the night when he was betrayed took a loaf of bread, 24 and when he had given thanks, he broke it and said, “This is my body that is for you. Do this in remembrance of me.” 25 In the same way he took the cup also, after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood. Do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of me.” 26 For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes.'

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  • @rsza5911
    @rsza5911 3 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    I've followed your speaker's corner debates over some years. I've witnessed what I perceive to be unfair criticism by certain members of the Hyde Park " Tribe" and your exit from that forum has presented you with the opportunity to showcase , what I believe, is your true calling. These lectures, albeit short, are brilliant in it's delivery and content. This is the real you Paul...stick with it.....this is scholarly enough to be presented in a more formal setting. I will be the first to sign up for the course......Loving it....Greetings from South Africa.

    • @BloggingTheology
      @BloggingTheology  3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Thank you!

    • @Monothiest247
      @Monothiest247 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Speakers corner is a circus. Too much yelling and screaming, brothers arguing with brothers in public.

    • @a.hassan8922
      @a.hassan8922 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes, Paul is too cultured for Speaker's Corner. You can present more meaningful and intelligent material through this channel and reach audiences all over the world!

    • @mytubemz
      @mytubemz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Monothiest247 Speaker’s corner lead Br. Paul here and his presence there lead me here as well. Speaker’s corner has it’s purpose. Both forums are necessary. We could see the benefit in what Br. Paul shared then and it made me search him out until I found him here al hamdulillah.

  • @supernatural3796
    @supernatural3796 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    The world needs more poeple like you brother . Thank you for spreading the knowledge.

    • @BloggingTheology
      @BloggingTheology  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I appreciate that

    • @erykind2286
      @erykind2286 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Wish 250 milions of Indonesians subscribe this channel.

    • @BloggingTheology
      @BloggingTheology  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@erykind2286 thanks!

    • @salammaamur735
      @salammaamur735 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      And I too wish 32million Malaysians subscribe to this channel.

    • @desertslily4346
      @desertslily4346 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is no one like him ..

  • @ibnyasin
    @ibnyasin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    I firmly believe that the concept of bid’ah in Islam has safe guarded it from such excursions into new ideologies and practices, despite some groups still deviating from the central themes of Islam.

    • @marvinolds6671
      @marvinolds6671 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Very well said. Bid'ah was so important to the Prophet Muhammad (saaws) that before every sermon he used to give he would sternly warn against it.

    • @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543
      @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      All 4 mathhabs taught unity on evidence per Quran, not blind division!
      1) Abu Hanifah : "It is prohibited (23) for someone who does not know my evidence to give verdicts (24) on the basis of my words."
      2) Imam Malik : look into my opinions: all that agrees with the Book & Sunna, accept it; and all that does not agree with the Book and the Sunnah, ignore it."
      3) Imam Shafi : "Muslims are unanimously agreed if a sunna is made clear to someone, it is not permitted (33) for him to leave it for the saying of anyone."
      4) Imam Ahmad : "The opinion of Awzaa'i, Maalik, of Abu Haneefah: all of it is equal in my eyes. However, the proof is in the narrations (in the sunnah)."
      This is from the beautiful work of Sheikh Albani's Prophet prayer...
      *When we say Muhammadur Rasulalah it means our isnad ends with Prophet Muhammad peace and blessings be upon him whenever able!*

    • @DC-wp6oj
      @DC-wp6oj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The bidah proclamation in this day and age and its use by the salafist movement in the way they have done has caused more harm than good. The salafist/wahabbists had a grand opportunity to make a real change for the better, but they blew it by sowing discord amongst the ummah. But it doesn’t end with bidah. To follow the ‘true Islam’ you then have to follow a handful of scholars such as Imam Hanbal r.a, Ibn Taymiyyah and of course the select Saudi scholars. Completely negating the work of thousands of scholars over a thousand year period, simply because Salafists have their own select group. The black and white thinking that follows is just that. While the salafists should be commended for cleaning up various aspects of the deen, in no way do they have any right to proclaim themselves as the ‘saved sect’. That is arrogant. Only Allah swt decides who is ‘saved’. Although Salafists condemn ISIS, the ‘Islamic State’ is salafism 2.0, following to the ‘T’ the salafist methodology. But when it is unpalatable the Salafists simply absolve themselves of ISIS actions instead of taking responsibility for spawning such a group. Like I say, Salafism backed by the petro dollar had a gigabtic opportunity to be the leading light for the Ummah, instead it just pitted one group against another so that we are more divided than ever.

    • @CataciousAmogusevic
      @CataciousAmogusevic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DC-wp6oj exactly

  • @yilmazgumustekin7776
    @yilmazgumustekin7776 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    We need many people like you thanks for sharing your vast knowledge with us!

  • @saabajoe
    @saabajoe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Indeed you are doing historical and immensely important work for truth and the salvation of mankind brother Paul. Allah guide and bless your efforts. 🤲🏿

  • @herzaislad
    @herzaislad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Lovin' your sharing knowledge! Keep it up!
    Salam from Indonesia 🙏!

  • @majedkassab4077
    @majedkassab4077 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    You’re a legend!! Your work and effort is much appreciated!! Thank you for spreading the knowledge about Islam May Allah bless you and reward you with his mercy and blessings ☪️🤗

  • @abdiLMFAO4
    @abdiLMFAO4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Paul exposing Paul... keep up the fantastic work sir 👏🏽

    • @BloggingTheology
      @BloggingTheology  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Much appreciated

    • @lpra1685
      @lpra1685 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BloggingTheology may Allah bless you and thank you for your video about the existence of Prophet Muhammad saw. Keep exposing these missionaries

  • @angelicabalisnomo7155
    @angelicabalisnomo7155 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I really hope In Shaa Allah that your channel grows more. We need you, you're a great influencer of a man who uses his reasons/brain!

  • @tahirnectar1275
    @tahirnectar1275 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Dr Lawrence Brown writes....
    "Despite all the evidence to the contrary, many Christians believe that the New Testament is the unadulterated word of God. Even Paul refuted this claim in 1 Corinthians 7:12: “But to the rest I, not the Lord, say . . .”-indicating that what follows was from him, and not from God.

    • @langitbiru6634
      @langitbiru6634 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I agree 10000%...
      The Christians should have called them Paulinians (as they did in the past).
      It is totally shameful that Christians are in denial on this fact and keep putting Paul's words on Jesus' mouth.

    • @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543
      @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      crucifiction attempt on Jesus to remove laws will make his ppl lose blessings in mathew 21 :43 & jeremia 31 :36. pauls in acts 9 : 3 saw devil of luke 10 :18 went to Arabia, is lawless false prophet in mathew 24 :11 thought he's who will correct him - comforter in John 1 :21 & 16 :8, Prophet law giver like Musa is Muhammad peace and blessings on him!
      Jesus is only sent to his tribe, after mark 16 : 8 Jesus's 2nd appearance saying he's sent for the world is an admitted fabrication. isaiah 49 says Jesus will leave his tribe and return following the light of nations of isaiah 42, a new covenent, from the Arab Prophet from mt selah Medina, this is clearly Islam.
      Abraham wasn't from juda, juda came like 2 centuries later, Ibrahim and Ismael were Muslims who built the Kaba, even Jacob imitates the hajj in genesis 28!

    • @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543
      @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Jesus said God prefers mercy over sacrifice in mathew 9 & 12, but paul in hebrews 9 says God can't forgive without a sacrifice. this shows 2, Paul contradicts Jesus & paul degrades God's forgiveness to intro a new god, showing why polytheism is the worst sin, it degrades God's Attributes! - *Best response to paulines, we follow Jesus as we believe God can forgive without a sacrifice, using the verse above, it's over!*
      this is on top of christian's contradictions of Allah's Tawhid Asma wa Siffat and historical contradictions with esp. with the law.
      isaiah 43 : 10 says no new God will form, so john 1 is wrong (& likely an addition due to different writing style), the word is God's attribute in correct translation. It says word became flesh but job 25 :4 shows God can't come from a womb as whats from a womb is impure while God's word called pure in psalms 116 : 140 - Your word is pure!
      Jesus is a created from the Word of God, He's not an attribute of God.
      psalms 22 and 91 predicts Jesus is saved matching Quran 4 : 137.

    • @james9077
      @james9077 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mark 14:22-26 'And as they did eat, Jesus took bread 🍞, and blessed, and brake it, and gave to them, and said, Take, eat: this is my body. And he took the cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them: and they drank of it. And he said into them, this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many. Verily I say unto you, I will drink no more of the fruit of the vine, until that day that I drink it new in the kingdom of God. And when they had sung a hymn, they went out into the mount Olive.
      The passage above is what Christians are still practicing today, which is called the Lord Supper. Paul the apostle did not establish the Lord supper, but the Lord himself. There are other passages in the gospel about the last supper, which I deliberately left out because the blogger claimed the other gospel copied from the gospel of Mark.
      It's wrong for the blogger to deliberately leave out this portion from his argument and concentrate on Paul's vision in other to crucify him. That's not academia, but apologetic.
      Until Paul (the blogger) admits he is an Islamic apologist, I will continue to take him as a deceiver, who is trying to hide behind a finger. If he so condemned Paul for his vision, then he has no moral ground to validate the Quran because it's another man's revelation. There should be some moral consistency on his part.

    • @justarshad8354
      @justarshad8354 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@james9077 islam scripture is authentic and the teachings (tawheed) has remain exactly the same since muhammad died
      So paul got nothing for to criticise islam
      Youre just one of the same sensible christian when got debunked or expose they turn their islamphobe mode on
      Grow up kid.start to defend your beliefs with evidences in christianity itself rather counter claim by targetting islam(when islam is not even mentioned)

  • @salammaamur735
    @salammaamur735 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Salaamun'alaikum from Malaysia 🇲🇾❣️💙 to the world 🌎🌍

  • @jameelkhan3934
    @jameelkhan3934 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The upper room when Jesus visited the apostle is the most telling statement. He handle me and see
    He ate to show he is still alive.
    I been watching you since ever. Good man! May you always be guided.

  • @lydiakarabova6002
    @lydiakarabova6002 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love your lectures.Thank you.Beneficial knowledge.♥️

  • @ajyaad
    @ajyaad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Your study, research and selfless forthcoming imho is simply inspiring sir. Thank you.

  • @gsxmanman7026
    @gsxmanman7026 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks brother paul u are leading people to straight path of believers

  • @drmsar
    @drmsar 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    God bless you brother ❤

  • @mahnoormahmood4243
    @mahnoormahmood4243 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for all the comparative study.

  • @jenniferjoseph5914
    @jenniferjoseph5914 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You’re spot on brother Paul.God is not going to send anymore prophets instead God will choose men among men to undo the mistakes and put it in right . You are one of the chosen ones who will do it right.God bless you!!!👋❤️

  • @earlismarks7108
    @earlismarks7108 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Powerful observations, much appreciated...

  • @delatorrecilla
    @delatorrecilla ปีที่แล้ว

    Discovered your old videos, I learn a lot. Captivating. Thank you, brother. May Allah rewards you abundantly and gathers us (muslims) in His jannah

  • @dune2024
    @dune2024 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    excellent 🙏🙏🙏
    that was my suspicion about the eucharist bc as far as i can remember of these early christian texts all the other gospels outside the pauline canon never mentioned not even once about the eucharist 👍👌👌👌👋😎🙏
    i'm glad finally someone also pay a similar attention to this important topic which even escapes prof ehrman's attention all this time

  • @sherifel-hadi3439
    @sherifel-hadi3439 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Happy new year.

  • @lizzywizzy1863
    @lizzywizzy1863 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really love ur work . recently I have also been interested in early church teachings I wonder if ur planning to make video them too cause I am really looking forward to it ✨

  • @mushtaqobaray7529
    @mushtaqobaray7529 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really a very important information making matters very clear. Which were not so clear until your simple portrayal of the events.

  • @DrSales-zl3kq
    @DrSales-zl3kq ปีที่แล้ว

    From everything you have taught me about paul through several videos I will say he sounds like he was a real SOB. I picture him as like a business owner that does not care for the truth but who's only focus is on building the largest new religion

  • @samasouf6563
    @samasouf6563 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you Paul . I am a retired man and having all the time listening to your beautiful lectures. I only wish these lectures can be translated into French and Arabic audio translation that is not subtitled. With your permission I can try with a professional company to do it if I find one.

    • @BloggingTheology
      @BloggingTheology  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      thank you, and you certainly have my permission and good wishes.

  • @steveebling8480
    @steveebling8480 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Turn your volume up.

  • @deanis77
    @deanis77 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Respect to you sir. I do like your videos.
    Only one request. If you can boost the mic a bit, sir. Thanks

  • @maydarwiche5816
    @maydarwiche5816 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I couldn’t begin to thank you enough for your enlightening and thoughtful vlogs. And I couldn’t agree more with almost everything you present. I have one question, though. As someone who has obviously studied the Quran, don’t you think that Surah Al-Ma’idah is a direct reference to Jesus last supper with his disciples despite the absence of the sacrificial reference? For I have come to believe that Jesus probably had this last meeting with his disciples one last time before he was risen by God to heaven.

  • @sutil5078
    @sutil5078 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Vote: Why did Paul lie? 1. as a Roman agent attempting to divide early Christian followers; 2. blinded by God to further delude him (and misguide those who chose to be misguided while they could follow the disciples themselves) 3. saw a future in new movement and desired early prominence. 4. A lot of people wrote in his name.

  • @jmmvirta
    @jmmvirta ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dunn has done a lot of eisegesis (reading his own thoughts into the text) as he has very often done. Paul did meet Peter and James (adelfon of the Lord), as you can see from Galatians 1:18-19

  • @pindigheb100
    @pindigheb100 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting, referencing is appropriate.

  • @user-zy9qu9uh3b
    @user-zy9qu9uh3b ปีที่แล้ว

    Had Jesus Christ peace and blessings be upon him been on earth, he would have shaked hands with you for reviving his original doctrine AlTawhid that was completely changed by Paul the false apostle. Paul the truthful tries to save people's souls from hell and to insert them in God's mercy and kingdom in as much as Paul the apostle did quite the opposite. Had true prophet Muhammad peace and blessings be upon him not come with Islam, Jesus' and Muhammad's religion of worshipping one God, the true teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ peace and blessings be upon him would have been buried forever by Paul the false apostle, but God is the greatest. Thank you brother Paul for opening people's eyes to the truth. May God bless you and reward you with safety and paradise of this life and the Hereafter, too.

  • @muhammedakunjee4725
    @muhammedakunjee4725 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just a question to the presenter; excellent and informative videos as always. What are your thoughts about the Quranic reference in Surah al-Maida to the table spread that Jesus's Disciples requested to be send down? Verses 112 and 113.
    "When the disciples said: O Jesus, son of Mary! Is your Lord able to send down for us a table spread with food from heaven? He said: Reverence God, if you are true believers. They said: We desire that we should eat from it and that our hearts may be at peace, and that we may know that you have indeed spoken the truth to us and that we may be of among the witnesses to it."
    Thank you for considering this.

  • @saeedadan9537
    @saeedadan9537 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you brother, nice video but the sound of some of video audio is low

  • @user-cg4nc8lb3j
    @user-cg4nc8lb3j ปีที่แล้ว

    Aslaam u aalykum Paul May Allah bless you in both worlds. bit of a deep question and i kindly ask are matthew mark luke john post Paul???
    Which works in the new testament are considered “Paulian” because from my limited knowledge non of the chapters are named after him
    Really loving your works bdw really making me think

  • @marabara7863
    @marabara7863 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Pauly, Good to see you brother. I hope you and youre family doing will. Love and respect from NJ. Keep the good work. So according to the bible jesus did have his own Ingel as the quran claim ?

    • @BloggingTheology
      @BloggingTheology  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes. See Mark chapter 1:14 ‘Now after John was arrested, Jesus came into Galilee, proclaiming the gospel of God’

    • @marabara7863
      @marabara7863 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@BloggingTheology Thank you habibi paul, I will read it now.

  • @atilaorhan927
    @atilaorhan927 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    MashaAllah ... the atoning sacrificial death of Jesus on the cross is the cornerstone of the New Testament that opposes the teachings of Muhammad - not the Trinity. Thank you dear fellow for providing the most convincing explanation of how this anti-Jewish-Scripture belief crept into Christianity that I've heard. And thankyou for providing a scholarly approach.

  • @zubairkhan-lw9zo
    @zubairkhan-lw9zo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The simpilicity in and ddescrition of the process of editing leading to the Creation of the Christian church by Paul . How clearer can you be . Tqvm .

  • @dianaasgary4062
    @dianaasgary4062 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you do a video on why they Wanted to change, and where they got this story from

  • @OG-Everthing
    @OG-Everthing 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just one point that could make a continuity for this video ...is there any pagan origins for what Paul was taking as a vision ? Because if it's the case it may explain a lot of things that his was telling ...I don't think he invited all this. Thank you so much brother for all the great work you are doing..may Allah grant you paradise. Peace and love from France

  • @kyleblackburn9058
    @kyleblackburn9058 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love how you mentioned “new covenant” tongue and cheek. Isaiah talks about a new covenant so the idea of a new covenant was very much so a possibility and known. After Paul says he received his revelation from God, he spent 15 days with Peter and James. Wouldn’t they have corrected him? Maybe not, but after 14 years of preaching all of his teachings he went back and checked with Peter, James, and John and he says “they added nothing to me”. So again, wouldn’t they have corrected him? If Paul was so wrong and Peter and James were preaching such a different gospel, wouldn’t they fight Paul about it? Twice?

  • @puddinheadsmith3316
    @puddinheadsmith3316 ปีที่แล้ว

    I too have come to accept a certain "alternative view" of Jesus the man and Christ, the Universal Spirit of Divine Love and Mercy itself, the third aspect of the Trinity. I also have come to understand the Jewish and Islamic view that seeing Jesus as "God" contains a certain blaspheme. One very interesting source of information on the life of Jesus for me has been "The Aquarian Gospel of Jesus, the Christ," another has been the Edgar Cayce readings. I have also studied Taoism with its construct of Trinity in the formation of the Universe.
    It is gratifying to see that many who also strive to be "Followers of the Way" (the name of the earliest followers of Jesus) have come to accept many of the points of theology this gentleman articulates. I personally believe in reincarnation and have come to see the man Jesus as one who had attained to such a high level of Christ Consciousness in past lives that he was actually "Christed" in his last incarnation and thus able to perform his last great miracle, the resurrection of his physical body, confirmed by the Shroud of Turin.

  • @johnnyshoesofthetwo7374
    @johnnyshoesofthetwo7374 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I think you need to give some talks, 1-2 hr talks, to give detailed information about the evolution of the corruption of the original message of Isa, and leave a legacy, for you to profit, in the hereafter. We all need to leave behind a legacy that will be of benefit to us,.

    • @samwhite6255
      @samwhite6255 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well said Johnny.. whether Paul gives lectures or not. I believe his personal effort dedication and time spent in digging for the truth let alone coming out and sharing it is certainly commendable and massively rewarding in the Hereafter InshaAllah. This is sadaqatul jaria until the end of times. What impresses me is that am a born Muslim but I am learning from Paul then from our own sheiks lol

  • @salammaamur735
    @salammaamur735 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ❣️🌎❤️💚🌍💙👍

  • @kdvytc
    @kdvytc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Salam paul from Philippines living in Qatar. Is there any way you can improve the sound.

    • @BloggingTheology
      @BloggingTheology  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Salam sorry about that. The sound is better in more recent videos.

  • @chriswilcocks8485
    @chriswilcocks8485 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting. Did you make a mistake at one stage and mix up paul and peter. I may have misheard.

  • @Anwar-Mian
    @Anwar-Mian 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Alhamdulillah. Excellent video. It seems like Paul wanted to preach and establish his version of Christianity and as you mentioned Christians in the areas of the Churches where Paul sent his letters had an influence on Christianity as we know it today. However, I am still confused about his vision on the road to Damascus as to whether he made it up or totally misinterpreted the vision.

    • @majidbenyounes9008
      @majidbenyounes9008 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Delusional....and should have been stopped and condemned!!!

    • @HHasan-of2vi
      @HHasan-of2vi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe from Satan it's quite possible.

  • @gavinjames1145
    @gavinjames1145 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    As well as Paul's visions and 'revelations' from his Jesus, it should not be forgotten how Paul may have fashioned his Jesus by scrutinizing (and reading into) the Jewish Scriptures. I believe this is what he did for three years, having fled to Arabia after his 'conversion' experience.
    I have heard at least one Bible scholar (I can't remember who, it was a while ago) point to what appear to be references to Luke's Gospel in Paul's letters (thereby suggesting a very early date for his gospel), when really it seems far more plausible that 'Luke' took stories (and possibly some letters?) of Paul as source material for his Gospel and book of Acts.
    So much of the life of the Biblical Jesus is pure anachronism! I'm sure there are echoes of Jesus' own Gospel in there, but it takes a great deal of work to separate the wheat from the chaff.

  • @BAFREMAUXSOORMALLY
    @BAFREMAUXSOORMALLY 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What we know as Christianity has less to do with Christ and more with Paul!

  • @tahirnectar1275
    @tahirnectar1275 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1 Corinthians 7:25-26 records Paul as having written, “Now concerning virgins: I have no commandment from the Lord; yet I give judgment as one whom the Lord in His mercy has made trustworthy.
    I suppose therefore that this is good because of the present distress . . .” (italics mine). 2 Corinthians 11:17 reads, “What I speak, I speak not according to the Lord, but as it were, foolishly . . .” Again, does anybody believe that God talks like this?
    Paul admitted that he answered without guidance from God and without divine authority, and that he personally believed himself to be divinely trustworthy in one case but speaking foolishly in the other.
    Paul justified his presumption of authority with the words, “according to my judgment-and I think I also have the Spirit of God” (1 Corinthians 7:40).

  • @husaamsaif
    @husaamsaif ปีที่แล้ว

    I wanted to bring your attention to the actual meal which Christ عليه السلام had with his disciples. Remember that at the end of Surah, the Table in the Qur'an Allah mentioned the Banquetht which Christ had under the request of his followers. So, I can say that Banquetht's story was narrated by Christ's disciples and then Paul distorted it.

  • @saliksayyar9793
    @saliksayyar9793 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How many different visions, and how frequently did Paul have them?
    How long was the vision on the road to Damascus?

  • @burtonsankeralli5445
    @burtonsankeralli5445 ปีที่แล้ว

    You dont miss a trick! Yes i agree that Dunne s argument is strong. The idea that Paul institued the Eucharist is stunning. I am not convinced. In the first place Paul is commenting on an established practice. Luke comments on the breaking of bread and there is the reflection of John. But this does not undermine the argument one can say Paul is giving it his own twist which then becomes established on the other hand i think it can be explained in terms of the theology of the synoptics of Jesus the lamb if God. A theme also found in Revelation.

  • @stephenatkins13
    @stephenatkins13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    would you be so kind as to provide these lost gospels or how can we know the historical Jesus.

    • @BloggingTheology
      @BloggingTheology  3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I recommend this book on the historical Jesus by an eminent NT scholar: www.amazon.co.uk/Historical-Figure-Jesus-P-Sanders/dp/0140144994
      The book studies the relationship between Judaism and Christianity, distinguishing the certain from the improbable, and assessing the historical and religious context of Christ's time. The spread of Christianity is also discussed.

    • @monkeymonk2081
      @monkeymonk2081 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BloggingTheology This guy has his own channel just like yours except that he is a Christian apologist..He has been on youtube for many years now with low views..😃😂😆

    • @monkeymonk2081
      @monkeymonk2081 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi there old man.. I remember watching a couple of your videos years ago. Your viewers have been very low on each and every video you uploaded. So pathetic of a lowbrow dude like yourself..😃😂😆👉😢

    • @HHasan-of2vi
      @HHasan-of2vi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@monkeymonk2081 Because the people of truth was always in minority from the Prophets time.

    • @monkeymonk2081
      @monkeymonk2081 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ish8891 Do you know who this Stephen Atkins really is? He has his own channel attacking Islam for some years now. Lucky he got very few views. Maybe you like Christian Prince, David Woods and many other people like them who like to ask questions about Islam just to mock them, huh?..😂😄😃👉😭

  • @ishakkyusuf8784
    @ishakkyusuf8784 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Paul, just a quick question, iv tried to find answers but nothing seems to come up. The question is "after Jesus what belief did Mary the mother of Jesus have according to history"....(We know she was a monotheist until she passed according to the Quran)

    • @husnainkhalil2554
      @husnainkhalil2554 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      A Jew who accepted Īsa alaihi salaam as a prophet.

  • @adamlabnaki9216
    @adamlabnaki9216 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just need to check level of sound please as its not as loud as other videos done by vloggers thank

  • @youtubewatcher8856
    @youtubewatcher8856 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In some country they say : A lunatic threw a stone into a well; a thousand clear-headed could not get it out. They must have been thinking of Paul (not to be confused with the gentleman in this video.)

  • @sutil5078
    @sutil5078 ปีที่แล้ว

    Summary of this video: Regarding the Mass, the Eucharist, the holy communion or the Last supper that made Christian believe that the death of Jesus was sacrificial and as new covenant and as an absolute key for salvation and forgiveness of sins, comes from Paul. He claimed he got that through mystical experience in 1corenthians 11:23 Paul himself said he received it from the lord not from the historical Jesus, nor from his disciples, which means a supposed mystical experience. Well, according to James Dunn "and Paul the creator of that tradition certainly did not regard it as having an independent authority" in his book "Unity And Diversity in the New Testament" page 72.
    In Galatian 1:11 (for I want you to know that the gospel that was proclaimed by me is not from human origin, for I did not receive it from human source nor was I taught it, but I received through a revelation of Jesus Christ"
    So the second generation included it in the so called "Mark, Matthew and Luke." All NT scholars agree that they were anonymous documents written by non-eye witnesses. They wrote it around 70 AD, 20 years after Paul handed that "tradition" to the Corinthians. Mark, the earlierst gospel, got it from these churches and since scholars (not random "preacher" on youtube) says Matt and Luke copied mark. So Mark is the only source who got it from Paul churches. And after these anonymous gospels circulated, churches started to teach that the death of Jesus was sacrificial. John Gospels is not authority nor considered by scholars as reliable,[ it was written 100 and lately many think the date as far as 150 AD.] Tie this to Paul's claim in Act 26:19 "I was not disobedient to the heavenly vision" referring to his early accounts of of his supposed vision, the King Agrippa said "you are out of your mind Paul too much learning had drived you insane" James Dunn "and Paul the creator of that tradition [of the last supper]certainly did not regard it as having an independent authority" in his book "Unity And Diversity in the New Testament" page 72.

  • @endlessart69
    @endlessart69 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you Paul brilliant as usual. But I have a question: christians always when debating or explaining say Paul said James said Luke said etc... but where's the Gospel Injeel that Allah revealed to Jesus peace be upon him? just like the holy Quran directly from God to Muhammad peace be upon him. ( of course through Gabriel the mighty angel.

    • @owaissheraz
      @owaissheraz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mark 1:14 Jesus came inro gallilie preaching gospel of God snd in mathew 9:35 jesus also preached gospel of god... What was je preaching.... Well certainly not mathew and mark's gospels because they were not invented yet.... So he was having injeel BUT IT GOT LIST DUE TO THESE PPL CORRUPTED IT

  • @algercomalekmalki7997
    @algercomalekmalki7997 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish that at the end you had made a parallel to the Islamic interpretation of the ‘last supper ‘ found in the Coran in chapter 5 ‘el Maïda’ .

  • @burtonsankeralli5445
    @burtonsankeralli5445 ปีที่แล้ว

    As for Paul teaching his own message he does say in what is perhaps that most important pericope or 1cor 15:3 ff That he is teaching what he received from the believing community reciting a well established formula. Paul is famous or notorious for shifting his argument and he does not see revelation from Christ and what he received from others as exclusive.

  • @RahmanKhan-vk9ol
    @RahmanKhan-vk9ol 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brother Paul I believe that verses 5:110 to 5:119 may give you some interesting material for your channel. Stay blessed.

  • @truthchannel5285
    @truthchannel5285 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mr Paul, your explanation started well , but has ended flat .You can continue being the leader of the blind of which both the leader and the followers will fall in the pit.

  • @andrewfisherman3811
    @andrewfisherman3811 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Paul may have invented the tradition concerning the Eucharist - with or without divine assistance. There's no doubt, of course, the historical Jesus celebrated the Passover meal. So that would be historical. What we're claiming here is that its salvic associations are false, contrived or unhistorical. The implication being that Christians assume (RC in particular) performance of this mystical rite is in itself efficacious for salvation. It is a naive belief at best. Potentially wrong. But it's not a deal breaker. People still find their way to God regardless. Let's face it: every sign post is misleading if we set off with a wrong orientation.

  • @ammarsaleh9756
    @ammarsaleh9756 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Here is something to think about! Is it possible that Iblease came to Paul in the so called vision portraying Jesus (pbuh) to alter the holy Bible causing him to go astray?

  • @azad1718
    @azad1718 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please hold the book in front of the camera so that viewers can see the name of the book and name of author. I could not read when you hold the book. Too brief and too low .

  • @wejie
    @wejie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Assalaamu Alaykum Paul,
    There was a pretty long article in either US News & World Report or Newsweek magazine regarding a conference of 50 leaders of different Christian denominations held somewhere in MidWest (US) in 1970's (Arkansas seems to ring a bell but I am not sure). They had gone over letter for letter, word fir word, sentence for sentence of the Christian bible and established that:
    A. 82% of Gospels have nothing to do with Jesus.
    B. 17% Jesus may or may not have said or done.
    C. 1%, for certain, Jesus did do or said.
    I don't know if you have access to research that conference. It will be great if you can find that article.

  • @TheJacrespo
    @TheJacrespo ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree with your brilliant distinction between the Gospel of Jesus and the Gospel of Paul. However, I think that the case of Paul is much more complex than it seems. It's possible that Paul once had a particular kind of experience or vision.
    Yet, most of the time, he seems to be creating stories to address urgent problems arising in his churches and against his leadership. For example, in I Thessalonians, it's clear that he invented the entire narrative of the imminent end of the world because people were dying and the impending end, as announced by Paul, did not materialize. Consequently, he altered the narrative, bolstering the source of his authority with his personal connection to Jesus.
    The situation with the Corinthians was similar: the reason Paul devised the story of having a revelation before the Eucharist is that the Lord's Supper was degenerating into a Gentile orgy. Once again, Paul restored order by invoking his authority, claiming, "The Lord told me this."

  • @ha836122
    @ha836122 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Last Supper are the strory in Al Maidah 112-114. When the disciples of Jesus ask for table spread of food from heaven.

  • @sunnyrahman5768
    @sunnyrahman5768 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    From Huntington Beach, CA
    Salam brother Paul, I noticed you audio recording level way below standard audio level. As I'm using bluetooth speaker, in the middle of video when advertisements hits very loud and very disturbing for my hearing. Please fix audio issues at your earliest convenience.
    Thank you.

    • @BloggingTheology
      @BloggingTheology  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry! Audio is much better in more recent videos.

    • @sunnyrahman5768
      @sunnyrahman5768 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BloggingTheology Thanks for the update.

  • @awdat
    @awdat ปีที่แล้ว

    On sacrifice. Have you read the the epistle to the Hebrews ? (not written by Paul)

  • @naushadms1708
    @naushadms1708 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is that its just me alone
    who find it not audible
    enough... please chek...

  • @rizwanramzan5729
    @rizwanramzan5729 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Paul, are you an Unitarian?

  • @kalder6673
    @kalder6673 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What if the apocryphal biblical texts were the true texts?

  • @AaronMiller-rh7rj
    @AaronMiller-rh7rj 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    (Faith is required to be born again/Christ death for bodily resurrection-First/Old and New Testament)

  • @james9077
    @james9077 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mark 14:22-26 'And as they did eat, Jesus took bread 🍞, and blessed, and brake it, and gave to them, and said, Take, eat: this is my body. And he took the cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them: and they drank of it. And he said into them, this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many. Verily I say unto you, I will drink no more of the fruit of the vine, until that day that I drink it new in the kingdom of God. And when they had sung an hymn, they went out into the mount Olive.
    The passage above is what Christians are still practicing today, which is called the Lord Supper. Paul the apostle did not establish the Lord supper, but the Lord himself. There are other passages in the other gospels on the last supper, which I deliberately left out because the blogger claimed the other gospels were copied from the gospel of Mark. It's wrong for the blogger to deliberately leave out this portion from his argument and concentrate on Paul's vision in other to crucify him. That's not academic, but apologetic.
    Until Paul (the blogger) admits he is an Islamic apologist, I will continue to take him as a deceiver, who is trying to hide behind a finger.

  • @Downlead
    @Downlead 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    May be Sir, when you read a text from a book, you can quote it on a slide, and show us to read. Thank you.

  • @FaisalRabbi21
    @FaisalRabbi21 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hello Paul, love your new channel! Just subscribed. Can you do more videos detailing the difference between the teachings of Jesus and Paul? I find the topic such an obvious contradiction. Thank you!

    • @FaisalRabbi21
      @FaisalRabbi21 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I saw the one you've done already with Jesus interrupted.

    • @BloggingTheology
      @BloggingTheology  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@FaisalRabbi21 COOL!

  • @abdulq5387
    @abdulq5387 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    May Allah guide you

  • @jacobojala3767
    @jacobojala3767 ปีที่แล้ว

    Isaiah 52
    13 Behold, my servant shall prosper,
    he shall be exalted and lifted up,
    and shall be very high.
    14 As many were astonished at him[b]-
    his appearance was so marred, beyond human semblance,
    and his form beyond that of the sons of men-
    15 so shall he startle[c] many nations;
    kings shall shut their mouths because of him;
    for that which has not been told them they shall see,
    and that which they have not heard they shall understand.
    Isaiah 53
    1 Who has believed what we have heard?
    And to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?
    2 For he grew up before him like a young plant,
    and like a root out of dry ground;
    he had no form or comeliness that we should look at him,
    and no beauty that we should desire him.
    3 He was despised and rejected[a] by men;
    a man of sorrows,[b] and acquainted with grief;[c]
    and as one from whom men hide their faces
    he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
    4 Surely he has borne our griefs[d]
    and carried our sorrows;[e]
    yet we esteemed him stricken,
    smitten by God, and afflicted.
    5 But he was wounded for our transgressions,
    he was bruised for our iniquities;
    upon him was the chastisement that made us whole,
    and with his stripes we are healed.
    6 All we like sheep have gone astray;
    we have turned every one to his own way;
    and the Lord has laid on him
    the iniquity of us all.
    7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted,
    yet he opened not his mouth;
    like a lamb that is led to the slaughter,
    and like a sheep that before its shearers is dumb,
    so he opened not his mouth.
    8 By oppression and judgment he was taken away;
    and as for his generation, who considered
    that he was cut off out of the land of the living,
    stricken for the transgression of my people?
    9 And they made his grave with the wicked
    and with a rich man in his death,
    although he had done no violence,
    and there was no deceit in his mouth.
    10 Yet it was the will of the Lord to bruise him;
    he has put him to grief;[f]
    when he makes himself[g] an offering for sin,
    he shall see his offspring, he shall prolong his days;
    the will of the Lord shall prosper in his hand;
    11 he shall see the fruit of the travail of his soul and be satisfied;
    by his knowledge shall the righteous one, my servant,
    make many to be accounted righteous;
    and he shall bear their iniquities.
    12 Therefore I will divide him a portion with the great,
    and he shall divide the spoil with the strong;
    because he poured out his soul to death,
    and was numbered with the transgressors;
    yet he bore the sin of many,
    and made intercession for the transgressors.

  • @muhammadkhairulizat
    @muhammadkhairulizat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    then who wrote it??
    Matthew 5:17
    "Do not think that I have come to abolish the “Law or the “Prophets”; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill
    🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

  • @muhammadkhairulizat
    @muhammadkhairulizat 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    May I ask, is there a gospel of Jesus in the Bible?? 🤔🤔🤔

  • @azad1718
    @azad1718 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Christian depend their salvation entirely on the saying of Paul who never met Jesus and whose teachings goes against what son of Mary Jesus said

  • @rashidaquil5284
    @rashidaquil5284 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Isn’t last supper in surah Maida?

    • @imtih.9439
      @imtih.9439 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not necessarily, surah al maida doesn’t specify it it was the last supper or if it happened on an earlier occasion, however it doesn’t rule out that it was the last supper. And Allah swt knows best

    • @salmang91
      @salmang91 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes

  • @carllovlund804
    @carllovlund804 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What is your last name Paul and are you on Skype?
    Best regards to you and your work .

    • @BloggingTheology
      @BloggingTheology  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Williams. I'm not on Skype.

    • @carllovlund804
      @carllovlund804 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BloggingTheology i would like to speak to you .
      I hope this covid goes away and invite you to a forum in Stockholm as a speaker please

  • @vickybhatra4536
    @vickybhatra4536 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    2 timothy 3 :13---While evil people and impostors will go on from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived.😡

  • @thepilgrim1581
    @thepilgrim1581 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    GALATIANS 1 : 6-9
    6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
    7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
    8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
    9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
    Amen
    Let it be so.

  • @miketannenbaum8909
    @miketannenbaum8909 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excuse the question of an outsider, but I'd always been under the impression that the last supper was the Passover meal. If true, what's all this discussion about a loaf of bread? On Passover, Jews eat matzah (unleavened bread), which definitely doesn't come in the form of loaves.

  • @truthchannel5285
    @truthchannel5285 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.
    2. For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.
    3. But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year.
    4. For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.
    5. Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:
    6. In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.
    7. Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.
    8. Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law;
    9. Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.
    10. By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

  • @asadaftab1731
    @asadaftab1731 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Quran does mention something similar to the last supper though. Don't know why the Gospel writers other than Paul find it not worth mentioning in clear terms. There was a heavenly meal that Jesus and the apostles indulged in.

  • @YassineJ
    @YassineJ ปีที่แล้ว

    What I'm thinking about Paul (the Apotle) is that he smoke a lot of weed.

  • @HHasan-of2vi
    @HHasan-of2vi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why Paul angry on his followers in Galatians (1:6) because they were hearing and learning different Gospel from others, I think different means nothing but Gospel from Jesus's real disciples James and Peter.

  • @allykhan8594
    @allykhan8594 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Subhana Rabbi al A'laa. Paul is either deluded, lying or met a devil. Revelation is received by Messengers appointed by the 1 God, and of the Abrahamic religions, the revelations are given to the lineage of Abraham pbuh.

  • @sevinjrustamova2782
    @sevinjrustamova2782 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Last supper was sent from Allah. Sura 5.

  • @AbidNasim
    @AbidNasim 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pontius Pilate releases Jesus Barabbas. (Mark 15:6; Mathew 27:15; John 18:39). Barabbas is derived from Aramaic "son of the father." This is compatible with Quranic view that Jesus Christ was not crucified but the matter was made fuzzy at the time.

  • @richdelarby9387
    @richdelarby9387 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Al Maidah (The Fest) in the Quoran.

  • @Malik4_ever
    @Malik4_ever 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So basically Paul had a vision and start writing and it’s not what is said in the other gospels and now we have a religion based on what this man teach but it’s not what the real Jesus preach
    I’m I right?

  • @sherifel-hadi3439
    @sherifel-hadi3439 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Paul seems to be a corruptor of the message of Jesus _par excellence_ . Mr. Williams maybe you should change your Christian (I mean first) name.😊

  • @weaponofthepeopleword-of-g7567
    @weaponofthepeopleword-of-g7567 ปีที่แล้ว

    The One God confirms the Last Supper event in the Qur'an, so it was real. Paul heard it from somewhere and just put his own spin on it.