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Hi Guys, join me as we take another trip to Aston barclay Shropshire branch. in this video we are taking a look at prestige branded vehicles to see what's been going on with prices.
Filmed February 2024 at Aston Barclay Car Auction
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A guy I know bought a cheap Q7, it had injector problems as well as all sorts of other stuff, blocked DPF etc, he has spent 9K on it so far and it has just broken down again, that's why the big old barges are cheap.
Agreed
VAG diesels are utterly dreadful products. Speaking from (bitter) experience.Shite EGR/DPF usually placed as terribly as possible and shite injectors are the norm...
Not just Range Rovers then. 😉
Erm......................................................
Invest in property maybe 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Massive supply coming in due to people not being able to keep up with credit plan repayments.
Or their mortgages, which they probably MEWed every couple of years to pay the deposit on a new SUV.
Resale to the Irish market, has collapsed with the introduction of NOX Tax VRT VAT & Brexit
What no one is taking about is the 50 to 6o % increase in car insurance this year
a) theyre too dear to begin with
b) Thyre too complicated with sophisticated electronics, complex suspension systems etc (my friend has a Range Rover HSE which blew a headlight bulb..it caused damage to the BCM and also required recoding (main agent.) Final cost to replace the blown bulb?? £1500..who wants that?
c) parts are too expensive
d) as the cars are so complex and designed with built in obsolescence in mind, they are very difficult and therefore expansive to work on
e) running costs are indredibly high
f) they are poser vehicles subject to the whims of fashion and purchased by posers. Fashions change very quickly in order to sow the seeds of discontent. Fools play along, thus meaning an enormous drop in residual value as last years car is an embarrassment. these are the same people who trade in their phone every year and choose their postcode for no other reason than to fulgfill a deep seated need to impress and be validated
g) they are unreliable
These are just a few reasons why prestige and fashion vehicles are worthless and has been the case since the dawn of time with very few exceptions.
F - 100%, Lease crew, own nothing, absolute to55er5
I think some people who buy prestige cars like prestige cars and want something a bit more upmarket than a VW 😂. Ps not everyone driving a prestige car leases them…
@@lolitapitpong3826you obviously like to burn sack fulls of cash on a car to impress the neighbours (who couldn’t give a toss) then. Thick as mince.
£1500 is average for a modern headlight, Mercedes e class is £1800
You missed the "more chance of getting nicked/vandalized" as well. You can't have anything nice these days.
It’s the running costs. Parts prices. Etc etc
First time in years i just dont wont to get a car due to cost of living. Will just stick with my crappy car.
Same here I've looked at changing my 59 reg Mondeo 1.8tdci (yes the wet belt one) but 65 66 reg Mondeos have more miles on than mine which has done nearly 150k
06 citroen diesel with 225 thou on clock.... Bought for £100... Only 8 years ago.... Still going strong.... Free motoring 😊
@@user-bz9cb8bp2yI smell bs
@@user-bz9cb8bp2yyou make me feel like I've been robbed 😂. £300 7 yrs ago for a micra k11 with 32k on the clock, still going strong.
It's not crappy if it's still running 👍
Top tip. Buy a Honda jazz and keep it forever. If you service it every year it might outlive you.
Or a Toyota Yaris!
Toyota Yaris every time - from experience - hold value like nothing else.
A friend recently traded in his elderly but low-mileage Jazz because he broke the door mirror - cheapest quote to replace was £800!
people nowadays are too far up their own ass to drive a yaris @@janebrown7231
@@saxon-mt5by They're about £40-50 second hand off ebay and about an hours DIY to fit, if you stop for a cuppa. Quotes for £800 are frankly ludicrous, bordering on criminal.
Lee, that Range Rover when you said, De twat, made me laugh out loud, brilliant,. Mark
Hi Lee, great video - love the walk arounds. Big tubs, big running costs. Cost of buying isn’t everything- still have to tax, insure, service it and drive from petrol station to petrol station. Dave Birmingham
Thanks 👍
It’s not just owning these prestige cars, it’s taxing them, servicing and repairing them along with insurance. They are just not worth the hassle especially with Ulez etc etc.
My six litre W12 Bentley is ULEZ compliant. ULEZ is really not an important matter.
Insurance with LV is £30 per month and tax is £50 for the months I use it. Surprising how many people would rather pay £250 pm on PCP for a hatchback.
It’s Such a shame 😢
cause a hatchback doesn't cost 500 for a service @@bmpowellicio
If running a car is a issue a prestige car aint for you.Anyone looking for this type of motor would
Not really be interested in the running cost stick with a micra.
Car trader's attire is now hoodies, Tracksuit bottoms and trainers, Arthur Daley be turning in his grave 😂
Swiss Tony is dismayed too.
Terrible way for anyone to dress themselves... Slobs
I noticed that as well.
Maybe it’s the auction attire to scare off other bidders. 😂
What no sheepskin coat?😮😂😂😂
Prestige cars are great if you buy a really old one without all the modern gizmo bullshittery - like my 40 year old Rolls-Royce Spur that's still running like buttered silk - 140,000 odd miles and just about run in now.
For that marque and Bentley the spares (genuine, OEM and aftermarket) are readily available.
Simple to maintain (spanners and screwdrivers mainly and admittedly a heavy duty lift because it's a little under 3 tonnes) no modern computerised tricky stuff just fuses and relays, the oldest and cheapest car I've ever insured (inflation adjusted).
Bought at auction with all the caveats (which i didn't follow properly but got away with it) and maintained by my local garage.
But I guess the gods were smiling on me.
Overall the cheapest car I've ever owned (my 20yo runabout costs me more to maintain) and 1/3rd to 1/6th the capital cost of a new showroom model which would be tied to exorbitant parts and service costs.
Plus there's nothing on four wheels to beat following the winged lady down the road.
Folk have short memories, prices went north at a stupid rate because of covid and supply. Now Mr Punter doesn't have the spare cash to go chasing inflationary prices and bingo, something is only worth what somebody is willing to pay for it
Hear hear
That's a fact
The visual of waving the Costa cup at the Alfa of the same colour was great.
A great vid, I prefer this to the really cheap stuff. Please do more of these
I have a auction video on the cheapies landing later this week
I am more interested in the high end bargains as well, just great to see how money evaporates..
When the main dealers of prestige cars charge £100 just to open the bonnet even before they touch a thing it’s no wonder people go elsewhere.
I work in Saudi and get to drive all round the country, there's a saying here.
"you can drive into the desert in a Range Rover, but you will drive out of the desert in a Pajero (Land Cruiser)"
Because the hyped market is changing.....sensible people like me got sick of cars and didn't run one for a long while then a good cheap Hyundai is all I need.....reliable comfortable and I'm many years away from even needing to look at the car market until evs and hybrids hit a sweeter price zone......keeping up with the Joneses is a mugs game with cars and I think more people are realising that
Those of us that know what's coming are certainly not investing our money in cars!
... and we don't suffer from number- plate - phobia ..... 😉
Now that's a fact 👍🏽
We are just returning back to the days of how it used to be.
Good about time.
Austin Princess, Alegro, Montego, Morris Minor, Datsun 120Y..yeah super
@@fhm3762 With regards to not changing your car every 3 years but im sure you knew this already. With regards to cars being lighter and more basic but im sure you knew this already.
Not a return to BL cars on the road pillock, more the end of the road for the Chelsea tractor and probably the big German brands dominating as well. Back to normal value family cars for most people.
@northseawolf It was supposed to be a joke, Mr Cortina, man.
I think anything you find striking about the used car market is worth a video.
Now you’re established (& please continue, your in depth knowledge is invaluable) please feel freer to spread your wings.
Geoff Buys Cars is an inspiration. He still does old bangers and he’s a daft sod / funny, but he also talks more widely about the car industry and market.
Conspiracy realism entirely optional 🤔
It's not just the UK. Went to Manheim auctions in Melbourne last week, a 2005 Mazda 3 sold for AUD $4K, around $1K less than that 5 series! Anything diesel with the exception of dual cabs & big 4WD's is taking a big hit here as well..... Yaris's & the like, even with big mileages (even 300,000kms & up) are getting silly money as they can be put straight to work doing Uber Eats, Amazon Flex & the like
All the people who wanted a range rover have now owned one, and will never buy one again.
cause people are getting poorer in this country. wages haven't increased, but, everything else has doubled in price, so, not many people with lots of cash unless, they have something dodgy going on
It's interesting that demand for small cheap hatchbacks on the used market is in complete contrast with manufactures stopping production of small hatchbacks and concentrating on SUVs. I wonder if they'll get caught out and small Chinese and Korean imports will take over that segment.
Prices dropping fast? Please tell Cinch, Cazoo and Carshop as their prices certainly haven't.
Check out what WBAC are paying for cars. Put in the reg of any big expensive bus and see what they say.
Another great auction video Lee, that 7 series was rough 😮.....top work yet again ....👌👍
Just luv your auction walkabouts...! 👍🏾
Thanks 👍John more auction videos later in the week
Can't wait... ! 👍🏾
Big cars, big bills.
Been there several times..I learned the hard way..never again. Life's too short for that nonsense.
Great auction video as always, I look forward to these.
Quick question, at the pre-auction walkaround you chatted about a silver or white Audi Q5 but it was not shown going through the auction, would you happen to have made a note of the bidding price and how it compared to CAP book prices, thx?
The nice thing with the diesel focus ST 2015 is that it’s a petrol ST with a diesel engine dropped in. Same seats. Suspension. Steering rack. Unlike a golf GTD which vs a GTI has different rack different suspension seats etc. the Ford keeps the ST drivability. The GTD doesn’t
Hi Lee. Nice Audi TT. Even though I hate them. There like a Ferrari. If you sneeze too hard then the bloody engine has to come out to fix anything lol. That's a Rough BMW. Even the Headlights are faded. Sorry one of my Pet hates. It doesn't cost much to sort them out. So what else is wrong...Nice colour Range Rover. I think the Silver BMW was the buy of the Night for me. Lovely up grade to the Channel. "Car U.K" in the Backround lol. Wicked Video Lee, very good. 👏👏. Keep it up. 😅 🇨🇮
Liking your way of stopping people stealing your content. Hasn’t bothered me at all and keeps your content yours 👍
I appreciate that
@@carukchannel i have CTF in top right corner through out my videos Lee
Cooking travel food
Great one Lee. I'm waiting for video about CLS
My mates got a right fetish for expensive tackle, he bought an R8 last summer, 75k,he doesn't want it now and thinks he'll get his money back (!) he's just bought a Bentley convertable and a porsche cayenne this week, he's absolutely off his head, but after cancer and then a stroke he's living it large, dubi at Christmas, trouble is if he lives he'll be bankrupt.
He most likely will be bankrupt but wishing your pal all the best with his recovery. Best wishes
@@yofinance1777 ta mate, first cancer then that's brought on a stroke, he goes out then and buys a v10 r8 (!)
Tell him I'll buy the R8 for £25k if he's not that fussed :)
@@MRFUCKOFF202 it's up at 75k bud at a prestige dealer, he thinks he'll get it (!)
Cancer then stroke.....sounds all too familiar......divoc 91 juice
It’s probably been said but PCP financing has grossly inflated prices of new cars. When you hear the likes of Matt Dawson at Carwow talk through the list of options on a reviewed vehicle it’s utterly eye watering. I recall an Audi A6 where the panoramic roof was around 2.5 k (part of a pack) so the buyer would be paying around £45 a month for just that option over a 3 year PCP deal, absolutely nuts.
It hasn’t inflated it pcp has actually made the purchase price irrelevant- it’s about the monthly not the cost new. It has given a huge opportunity to buy a new range of cars which most people could never had afforded. You can get a three four year old M4 Comp for £8k down and £100 a week - all of a sudden the price is irrelevant.
@@c11yan Fair point, i got my m4 f82 comp in 2019 for 549 down and 549 a month on 2.9% apr. Wouldnt have been able to afford the car without that pcp tbf
@@faisalfaruque2849 Late car sales is all down to the monthly payments and cost to change ie px difference / balloon figure vs market value. You can still do it cost effectively to the point where driving a banger is unjustifiable.
@@c11yanfair comment
But you don't own the car
You are merely renting it
@@russthebiker no you are certainly not renting it as you are responsible for it. PCP is effectively like an 8 year loan with a three year break clause with an agreed value / hand back alternative. I’ve never pcp a car myself but worked in industry)
Agree with you about red cars. I had focus zetec 2012. Putting aside the issue about wetbelt the metalic candy red paintwork was made for this model.
The TT wheels looked ridiculous side on, must have been awful to drive😮
Good idea with the watermark. I've started seeing your footage on tiktok!
A good tip if your bidding on line and no one's bidding in the room, then it could mean the room have seen the state of the car.those bm 7 series is a big old car, you could have a sponsored walk around that.
Yep, I was thinking of upgrading a little while ago, but now, certainly for the forseeable future, I think that I'll stick to my 66 plate 1.25 Kia Rio which I've owned outright for the past 5 years.
I drive a wee 55 plate Astra which i bought two summers ago for £800. Thought it would do me a year, until the prices started levelling a bit. Ive did water pump, tyres, discs and pads and its going in to get the front calipers changed as ones sticking.
General maintenance but cant grumble as its not been heavy on my pocket. I could afford to go out and buy something nice, but im not paying over the odds, so watching with interest to see how the markets going. Especially with the slightly premium cars.
Hi Lee
Great video again 👌🏻
I am actually looking for a prestige 7 seater for the family car. My preference is a discovery preferably approx 2020 reg with low a mileage as possible.
What auction would you recommend and roughly what price range would I be at?
Ps I’m based in Glasgow but willing to travel.
Any help would be great.
All the best 👍🏻
Lee got to beg to differ ! had a 2008 Merc CLS absolute nightmare 🤔
Where do we start, i know the engine, 3.0 V6 Diesel when it runs is a great lump ;-)
Then one day it don't perform ;-( ...............The cold start 🤭🤭
Never again returned to the trusty Honda 2.2 Diesel CRV 👍👍👍👍
I have a 2.7 diesel Range Rover Sport. Best car I have ever had. Brilliant off road, superb for towing, very comfortable, nice to drive, can sleep in the back, very reliable, no major faults, and does 25 mpg. I would have another any day. £2000 is an absolute steal. People will regret not buying these while they still can, when in a few years they will be forced to take out a massive £40,000 loan to buy a dreary electric car with a measly 200 mile range and a fire risk battery.
French car engine
@Luckyjo21 So what if it is French? It has never given a hint of trouble in 120,000 miles. If you need to tow a trailer the RR Sport is a great option. I suggest you consider the interest payment on a £60,000 electric equivalent = at least £6,000 per year. You will be able to buy three entire RR Sports for simply the interest payment on the electric SUV. But hell, its your money. For someone on £20 per hour it will only take him 3,000 hours (about a year) of toil to pay for his electric car. I guess there is nothing wrong with people being forced to work for no useful outcome if it helps big business keep people in debt slavery and thus working harder than they would otherwise do. Gotta keep UK's productivity up somehow and the fear of the repo man is as good an incentive as any.
@reality9 mate £20 an hour = 60 hrs a week to make the money but what about paying tax national insurance council tax food bills etc not a chance of doing it In 2 yrs let alone a year
@@mancman7337 Good point
Don’t worry about petrol engines in a few years vs EV, the decision will make comrade Vladdi or Prince Mohamed for you. 😂
Another great insight into the world of car auctions from a traders view Lee.
These executive cars are too expensive to run and have loads of features, meaning more to go wrong so dealers don’t want to gamble on them.
Love the videos. Think it shows people don't want expensive cars due to the running costs and parts price, till they have spare money in there pockets
Don’t forget most private sellers misdescribe the vehicles on this platform car w o w and when you go to collect and try negotiate the price down most refuse saying you’ve already bought it! Or the old favourite I told car wow it’s their fault it’s not on the auction🙃.
Great video very informative live experience on the auction. 👌
Hello people, hope you are all doing well ❤
Expensive cars are expensive to maintain. So an initial good buy becomes a nightmare when it comes to service and repair, especially Landrovers, which break down all too often. People have realised this and generally won't take the risk these days.
Another great video Lee, is this because of parts going up in price since covid , my mates a mechanic and has been since leaving school he's told me certain customers are not servicing their vehicles due to high cost of parts
I have a 2004 Polo 1.4 Auto 87K and the value of it is still the same as it was worth when I bought it in 2018 with 36K on it. I'd love a big Merc or BMW but I know I couldn't afford the running costs. Probably like most people which is why the small autos like mine are holding their money. I'd love a bigger car and I'm bored of mine but barely enough cash to fix this one when it breaks.
It's ok buying the like of an evoque but if you can't do the important maintenance items stick with a vw polo , it will still get you to the shops and back
I’ve got an E320 cdi and do about 25000 miles a year it’s a cracking car 👍
Great Lee, keep the videos coming
Thanks 👍
Thanks for doing a video on these types of cars…. I no it’s not what you buy but maybe every now an then you do a video like this.
Nice channel, as most of our cars in Cyprus are from UK, only difference here is they get them cheap & think they selling gold on wheels when landed, vans on the other hand especially the small ones have doubled in price! Anyone got a small van for sale?
The thing is yes you can get a Merc or BMW for a little more than a little Yaris or Fiesta but the costs are worlds apart to maintain, and right now, people want to play it safe, bring on the next video.
Can’t wait for all these repossesed cars coming down the track cos people can’t afford the HP, there will be cars as cheap as chips this summer 😉
Most newer cars these days are a small mortgage to buy them, Mainly for the preserve of Company Car ownership!!
When it entered the hall that red Audi TT looked like Noddy's car from an Enid Blyton story. The wheels are absurd...
Astounding but worth a punt on a few of those… Still cheaper than most annual rail season tickets to London.
Nice one Lee 🙂🔧🎥✌️
Like the Chanel pre do a piece on ford power shift gearbox. I had a 2014?mondeo.3 gearbox repairs in 10 months. When so called overhauled. They just fix problems. But so many things go wrong with them. One devote a episode to it
That silver 5 series and merc were good value,,lot of car for the money,good content as always Lee.
Great video bud, was great to meet you, I'm embarrassed that we entered into the BM bidding war but my son really wanted it, I thought 6 k max as it was a mucky car, 8k plus fees is way too much, had a go at the same car at anglia car auctions, went specifically for it, when it started up, we'll it was like a pressure washer of blue smoke out of the back, did 6100,but knackered and cat d.
I thought it was expensive but when they want something the price goes out the window. Great to meet you and will no doubt bump into you again this year as planning a few trips to Wakefield AB
@@carukchannel cheaper there mate, but a good distance away from you, we'll have to have an Indian or something after.
@@roystonvehicles9129 👍👍👍👍
I don’t blame you doing the watermark to many people using your content 👍
Liked.....now i will watch!
👍😁
Great show 👍I live in the south of Spain, do you get many LHD’s going through the auctions , cars are crazy prices down here thanks 🙏
I just bought a 10 plate Jag xf Portfolio - I think it was about 45k new. I knew it had some electrical gremlins, I love that sort of challenge. Ok, there were a few more things wrong than I had expected but I am nearly done with it now. The car cost 1550, by the time spending is finished it will be about 2100. It needs a new door lock - 25 quid but several hours to fit, that sort of thing drops it's value massively as most people these days would not tackle such a job. The biggie was water damage to the rear bcm, Jag would have replaced and reprogrammed at well over 1200 plus the vat, it cost me about 8 inches of wire, a soldering iron and an hour of my time. I have mainly owned what I call ex-prestige cars ie ones that are too old or too knackered to be considered prestigious any more. I will continue doing so.
I think that deep burgundy looks good.
Renault Megane 2007 2.0 TDi GT, 104,000 on the clock…nae ego, my car, just did Lancashire to Newcastle via Carlisle and back again same day, smooth, gr8 mpg, 175 bhp, rough n ready but my car ❤it😂
My best mate's next door neighbour bought 2007 Range Rover 4.4 TDV8 a few years back. He had to spend £7k on remedial works (including a reconditioned gearbox) in less 18 months.
They may be cheap now but they're still like £70k cars to maintain (even if solid) and are 12 years older and far less reliable. That's why no one wants the fuckers especially if they're diesels.
If it was 2007 it wasn’t a 4.4. They weren’t introduced until 2011 & was never in the Mk1 RR Sport.
Good going lee
This was happening in the USA a few months ago
Probably reality. Those 10 year old luxury cars are at the age when they start costing big money. Which people don't have.
Ive had an Audi TT for last 6 years its been a great car .and very reasonable to run . Id have another no problem .
My favourite colour, that Skoda..
I think the ST TDCi's are underrated. Cheaper tax, better MPG and torquey.
They definitely are. I've had a few of them and they're brilliant. I've got a TXS now. If you know you know.
Detwatting - precious 😂😂
Lee I recently bought a JS2000 off your advice and one of the handy things i wanted this for was the ability to connect 12v items such as tyre inflators to the pack. on the box it shows the adaptor. in the box nothing. the distributor you linked in your description were no help they just say its not available or use my own adaptor. topdon do not appear to list it on their website as an accessory etc. any ideas where to get one from? im sure its a function you've mentioned using before?
Hi tappers, please email me at carukchannel@gmail.com with what your after / missing and I will sort this for you
I didn't know Stevie Wonder wanted a blue Range Rover! Don't worry about the watermark, it's nothing that gets in the way.
Thanks graemew 👍
Price you pay is the entry fee. Parts and labour still cost as much as when car was new. Another thing to consider is no garage wants to get balls deep in something that could be stuck on a ramp for days - or weeks. Anything with a big diesel engine is best avoided.
To expensive to run and maintain it doesn’t matter what car you own it will always get stuck in the same traffic jams stop at the same lights get scratched and dented in the supermarket car park so it makes more sense to do it in the cheaper car that fits your needs and gets you from A to B economically
Surely the 2018 M2 was bargain of the day,liked the de twating
3:54 they are original wheels on that tt. Had one at my Audi dealership today
The tyres were 35 profile, really low. Thanks for sharing josh
DE-TWATING that made me laugh 😆
Election Time all ready, vote the B******s out , we need people that answer to us.
Repair bills simple as. These modern beasts are only a second away from a 20k bill.
Audis, watch vagtechnic you’ll see it doesn’t take a big issue to require an engine out. And constant push for emissions/economy has caused the designs of engines to be so immensely complex that they fail, and when they do, immensely expensive to fix.
If ur not phased by the cost of road tax or insurance and running costs,you can get a lot of car for little money. It's sad as they're the best cars. Unfortunately not many can afford to run them. Real luxury cars for peanuts. And they're still running sweet,more than can be said for a lot of today's newer cars that will have half the shelf life.
They arent the best cars though, a good car doesn't break down as often as a Range Rover does.
Great video
Thanks gordon
Excellent video well done
Thanks
Because the cost of money has been low for years compounded by finders willing to lend with v little equity in belief prices will either rise (bizarrely for a wasting asset) or not fall overly. We are reverting to normal where cars (not the collector stuff) are doing what they do and are depreciating, funding costs higher plus more equity reqd. Insurance costs higher too. Adds up to huge falls in asset prices which has much further to go. Sorry!
High at the back and low at the bottom!
Yer just described my Missus Lee 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I would always get an insurance quote before considering a high end vehicle the rates are really shocking.
Hello mate great video as usual and story. Where on ebay did you get that Chinese bumper. Need one for my 520d m sport F07. Will be grateful if you could give me the link 🙏
Hi Lee , Another brilliant insight to car auctions ,, Can't believe how much that 09 Range Rover Sport went for,, Personally I'm looking for one , for Myself , as being disabled coming up to pension age ,, I need something high up cus of my mobility conditions , I also need a auto cus after my op and my knees I can't use my left leg as good as a I used to ,, Tell me if I'm wrong they do have comfort entry n exit ,, plus I only need it to get around and hopefully a spot of fishing , lol ,
Your channel is Brill mate watched them from the start ,, slowly gaining subscribers ,,
Wish you strength to strength with your venture ,, Keep em coming mate , Stay safe everyone , 👍
Ps loved the ,De-tw---ing ,, saying ,, wouldn't touch a blinged up motor ,, we have a Bmw f30 m sport ,, we put the upgrades on the boot and on the rear splitter ,, got the front splitter, side skirts ,rear slats , and other upgrades in the spare bedroom ,, the next owners can either put them on or I'll sell em , 👌
Simple. They were NEVER worth that much in the first place.
What’s the Škoda superbs like the Laurin and klement and the Octavia vrs diesels