Thanks for watching! The lut I'm using is made with Dehancer plug-in, but I can recommend this website: freshluts.com/ It's got many free luts and some are great too.
WOW. thankyou for the vid and just knowing what questions to answer straight off the bat!. much appreciated getting my zv-e1 next week and will use this to get me up and shooting in no time. so thankyou. subscribed. Dont suppose you got a place for some good s3logs btw? those look exceptional at the end. sending thanks from 🇬🇧
Greetings from Taiwan! Congrats on the new camera and thanks for subbing! I got some of the luts from: freshluts.com/ and others I edited with Dehancer plug-in
i just waiting my a6700 and I will save this video to watch it a couple of times because it is really well explained as you wrote step by step...thank you so much👌🌹
Great video! Question: When using the first method you mentioned to bake in the LUT, Can you click on your imported LUT picture profile and adjust it in camera for things like Black Level, Color Depth, Saturation, and ect?
I just wanted to ask, a few questions below PP11 you added your lut to PPLUT1: 1. Does baking in your lut mean that you are no longer shooting in S-Log3? 2. Does the camera bake/apply the lut on top of standard zv-e1 video or on top of S-Log3? 3. To see what the out of camera video is going to look like on the camera display when baking in our luts, should we turn on "Gamma Display Assist" and "Gamma Disp. Assist Tyoe" to S-Log3 -> 709(800%)? 4. Don't you usually convert the footage using a Conversion Rec 709 before applying a custom grade/look lut? So when you bake in a custom grade/look lut onto the ZV-E1, wouldn't it look bad on the lcd/display on the camera without the Rec 709? (Kind of like not applying a color space transform before applying a lut?) Sorry if it's a bit confusing. I'm just trying to get a better understanding. Thank you!
1 you are still using s-log3, it's actually just like applying a lut during post production, but now you can view it on the camera 2 on top of s-log3 3 no, turning on Gamma Display Assist is just for viewing the s-log3 conversion to rec709, if you want to preview the outcome of your appointed lut, just choose PPLUT1 4 it depends on different luts, some are created for slog3, some are for rec709, so you will have to install those that are created for slog3.
@@ConstantineSPhotographydo you have the copy of lut that we can try, and can this work on a7c ii too? i have this option ony my csmera but i dont have the lut file yet. cheers
@@ConstantineSPhotography thanks. I installed the LUT to my a7cii as per your video now. now if I want the footage to be baked in to the final video, slog3 to 709 lut as well, do i need to select 8bit video format? or is it still recommended to shoot in 10bit 422? thanks
Hi , i really like your video. May i ask you if we are using bake-in LUT when shooting the video , do we always have to exxpose to 1.7 or just 0.0 ( the MM)
Is the highest LUT grid size you can import 33? You can't import 65? Does that affect overall quality since normally you can edit slog footage in post at 65. Thanks. Good video.
When using a "baked - in LUT", should you over expose (i.e. S-Log requires) or should you just expose properly (or what you see in the camera - i.e. S-Cinetone)?
If you're baking the LUT into the footage, then you're essentially finalizing the color grade during the shooting process, so you can expose by eye depending on how you want it to look. If you're not baking the lut into the footage, then you're just exposing for S-Log3. You just have a preview of it.
For some reason, that original Sony "embed lut" setting just copy .cube file to sd card, but in another folder, not in "pro". You can move it to "pro" folder, and then use a "user lut" picture profile option. It bakes in then in footage.
Hi on my a6700 on pplut1-4 all the luts are have a lack of contrast , The same luts applied in the log lut assist they are correct contrasty. But in the mode "burn in lut" pplut1-4 they lack contrast. Do you know something about this ?
@@ConstantineSPhotography Yes, i found out that the image from “log shooting” is a little different than a “pplut1-4” without any lut, so that s the issue , I need to Make the lut for pplut image not log
I am looking for a simple solution. I dont want to post process in pc. I want to record luts directly from the camera. If I use your first method, is it similar quality of slog3?
Another question, is it possible to revert back to the flat profile of slog3 without any LUT if I want after recording If I follow step 1? Another thing, I don't want to color grade, I want to color correct. Where did you get these luts and where should I look for these luts?
@@reyjohn88 I don't think you can reverse this process once you bake it in. Here's a tutorial about how I get free LUTs: th-cam.com/video/vYLOleqa0n0/w-d-xo.html You can find some color correction luts there.
By shooting with loaded LUT, is that mean I should only either select ISO640 or ISO12800 for the cleanest video? Even in sunny day time, ISO640 is still better than ISO100 ?
Do the zebra's behave the same way even with the LUT applied? I want to expose my SLOG3 to 94+ Zebras and I am afraid that the baked LUT will somehow affect the exposure and then the Zebras might behave differently.
You’re right about that LUTs would affect the zebra function. It’s better to import a video into your computer to make sure if the exposure level that the zebra detects is right at where you want it to be.
@@ConstantineSPhotography aha right, I was thinking about download one for importing into the camera to let the camera apply the lut directly. But it seems the camera also has this lut built in. My camera arrived in a few days, we will see 😬
Hi Constantine and thanks for your wonderful explanations. I however have a big problem : when I want to import the luts inside my ZV-E1, it says "This file cannot be loaded", whatever the lut is. Moreover, I cannot find SLOG-3 anymore, as my pictures profiles opportunities go from PP6 directly to PP10. So, PP7, PP8 and PP9 have disappeared. Thanks for helping me, please :-)) go
1 Check whether your lut is a 17-point or 33-point cube file, and the file name should be less than 63 alphanumeric characters 2 This is normal, there's no pp7-9 on ZVE1, you can choose whichever picture profile, set the gamma to s-log3, color mode to S-Gamut3.Cine and there you have the s-log3 setting
@@ConstantineSPhotography thanks for Nr 2 but I don't know what 17-point or 33-point cube file means ?Should this one, for instance, be ok ? "01 P&F Stylecine.cube" because it does not work as all others... I have tried. Should I rename it and if yes, how ? Many thanks again 😀
@@ConstantineSPhotography it still does not work. I have red anywhere that it might be because il is a 65 point lut and that it should be converted to a 17 or 33 to make it work. I will forget about it as it works inside Premiere Pro. Thanks anyway for having tried to help me 😉👍🏻😁
Thank you for this video. I think it is very confusing that when you enable Log Shooting and select to embed the LUT, that it is ONLY embedded/baked into the footage when you view the clip inside the camera but it is NOT embedded/baked into the footage when you view the clip on the computer. I think this is a software bug. It is also confusing that when you select a picture profile after the PP11 with your LUT selected, that the LUT actually gets baked into the footage but you don't see if you are shooting in S-Log3 or something else like HLG3 etc.. Your video shows that the base ISOs are 640 and 12,800 so we know that it is indeed S-Log3 but we don't know if the chosen Color Mode is S-Gamut3 or S-Gamut3.Cine.
Thanks for your comment! I think it is confusing too, which is why I made this video to demonstrate how it works and show you how it looks when I choose a certain setting.
If you make the lut by yourself, you can choose which format you want to export, but it's not always indicated if you download it from a website. I think maybe you can try this: freshluts.com/luts/185 I've successfully installed it on my ZVE1. If it also works for you, then you know it's the problem of that lut you couldn't install.
Thank you very much for this perfect video. Perfect explanation, the right questions we want to ask and excellent answers. Bravo!!
I'm very glad to hear that, thanks for watching!
Thank you for the video! Is the LUT that you are using freely available?
Thanks for watching! The lut I'm using is made with Dehancer plug-in, but I can recommend this website: freshluts.com/ It's got many free luts and some are great too.
@@ConstantineSPhotography Thank you for the reply!
WOW. thankyou for the vid and just knowing what questions to answer straight off the bat!.
much appreciated getting my zv-e1 next week and will use this to get me up and shooting in no time. so thankyou. subscribed.
Dont suppose you got a place for some good s3logs btw? those look exceptional at the end. sending thanks from 🇬🇧
Greetings from Taiwan! Congrats on the new camera and thanks for subbing!
I got some of the luts from: freshluts.com/
and others I edited with Dehancer plug-in
This really informative, especially for beginners such as myself. Thanks so much!
I'm glad it's helpful! Thanks for watching!
i just waiting my a6700 and I will save this video to watch it a couple of times because it is really well explained as you wrote step by step...thank you so much👌🌹
I'm glad to hear that and congrats on your new camera!
This video is extremely helpful and thank you for your time making this clip. This clip exactly answers all my questions in mind!
I'm glad it's helpful! Thanks for your comment!
Thank you for the video. Just wonder if I can load photo presets and have them baked into the photos.
Unfortunately that is not available in photo mode.
Super helpful thanks! You went through all the questions I had for the ZV-E1
Thank you! I'm glad it' helpful!
This is a great video. I tested all of this as well on my ZV-E1 and found this all to be correct. Thank you for putting this together.
Thanks for your support, I'm glad it helped!
Great video! Question: When using the first method you mentioned to bake in the LUT, Can you click on your imported LUT picture profile and adjust it in camera for things like Black Level, Color Depth, Saturation, and ect?
Thank you! Sadly you can't adjust those settings for baked in LUTs.
Perfectly summed up. Exactly what I was searching for, thanks.
Great to hear! Thanks for watching!
I just wanted to ask, a few questions below PP11 you added your lut to PPLUT1:
1. Does baking in your lut mean that you are no longer shooting in S-Log3?
2. Does the camera bake/apply the lut on top of standard zv-e1 video or on top of S-Log3?
3. To see what the out of camera video is going to look like on the camera display when baking in our luts, should we turn on "Gamma Display Assist" and "Gamma Disp. Assist Tyoe" to S-Log3 -> 709(800%)?
4. Don't you usually convert the footage using a Conversion Rec 709 before applying a custom grade/look lut? So when you bake in a custom grade/look lut onto the ZV-E1, wouldn't it look bad on the lcd/display on the camera without the Rec 709? (Kind of like not applying a color space transform before applying a lut?)
Sorry if it's a bit confusing. I'm just trying to get a better understanding. Thank you!
1 you are still using s-log3, it's actually just like applying a lut during post production, but now you can view it on the camera
2 on top of s-log3
3 no, turning on Gamma Display Assist is just for viewing the s-log3 conversion to rec709, if you want to preview the outcome of your appointed lut, just choose PPLUT1
4 it depends on different luts, some are created for slog3, some are for rec709, so you will have to install those that are created for slog3.
@@ConstantineSPhotographydo you have the copy of lut that we can try, and can this work on a7c ii too? i have this option ony my csmera but i dont have the lut file yet. cheers
@@JadeBuaya here’s a video about where I download luts, hope you find it helpful: th-cam.com/video/vYLOleqa0n0/w-d-xo.html
@@ConstantineSPhotography thanks. I installed the LUT to my a7cii as per your video now. now if I want the footage to be baked in to the final video, slog3 to 709 lut as well, do i need to select 8bit video format? or is it still recommended to shoot in 10bit 422? thanks
@@JadeBuaya I didn’t do a test about it, but I suppose 10 bit 422 would give better results
Hi , i really like your video. May i ask you if we are using bake-in LUT when shooting the video , do we always have to exxpose to 1.7 or just 0.0 ( the MM)
@@aroundnyc644 personally I still prefer overexpose +1.3 to + 1.7, I think that would work better 😊
Ok thank you so much@@ConstantineSPhotography
Welcome!
Is the highest LUT grid size you can import 33? You can't import 65? Does that affect overall quality since normally you can edit slog footage in post at 65. Thanks. Good video.
It doesn’t support 65 according to the manual. I actually don’t notice any difference in my experience
@@ConstantineSPhotography ok thanks.
Useful, thanks
You're welcome
When using a "baked - in LUT", should you over expose (i.e. S-Log requires) or should you just expose properly (or what you see in the camera - i.e. S-Cinetone)?
If you're baking the LUT into the footage, then you're essentially finalizing the color grade during the shooting process, so you can expose by eye depending on how you want it to look. If you're not baking the lut into the footage, then you're just exposing for S-Log3. You just have a preview of it.
For some reason, that original Sony "embed lut" setting just copy .cube file to sd card, but in another folder, not in "pro". You can move it to "pro" folder, and then use a "user lut" picture profile option. It bakes in then in footage.
Thanks for sharing, I'll try it out!
Wow this was incredible info. Thank you so much for this. Subbed.
I'm glad it's helpful. Thanks for the sub!
@@ConstantineSPhotography you welcome☺️
great video, answered all my questions!
Glad I could help!
Hi on my a6700 on pplut1-4 all the luts are have a lack of contrast , The same luts applied in the log lut assist they are correct contrasty. But in the mode "burn in lut" pplut1-4 they lack contrast. Do you know something about this ?
I think this might have something to do with gamma assist, maybe the lack of contrast ones are still log footages.
They look the same as the lut assists , same grade/colors but a little uncontrasty, they dont look like log
@@edvard2942 are you sure the lut you imported in the camera is for s-log3?
@@ConstantineSPhotography Yes, i found out that the image from “log shooting” is a little different than a “pplut1-4” without any lut, so that s the issue , I need to Make the lut for pplut image not log
Thank you so much ! Sooo helpful!
You're so welcome!
Thanks! Can’t believe they didn’t give the a7s3 this. I sold that and picked up a zv-e1 as this was one of the many reasons
I believe a lot of a7siii users think the same way as you do!
I am looking for a simple solution. I dont want to post process in pc. I want to record luts directly from the camera. If I use your first method, is it similar quality of slog3?
@@reyjohn88 correct, it is the same as when you shoot with s-log 3 and add a lut in post
Another question, is it possible to revert back to the flat profile of slog3 without any LUT if I want after recording If I follow step 1? Another thing, I don't want to color grade, I want to color correct. Where did you get these luts and where should I look for these luts?
@@reyjohn88 I don't think you can reverse this process once you bake it in.
Here's a tutorial about how I get free LUTs: th-cam.com/video/vYLOleqa0n0/w-d-xo.html
You can find some color correction luts there.
By shooting with loaded LUT, is that mean I should only either select ISO640 or ISO12800 for the cleanest video? Even in sunny day time, ISO640 is still better than ISO100 ?
Yes, in bright day light, you should use an ND filter to ensure the best quality.
So helpful, thanks...subscribed!
Glad to hear that! Thanks for supporting!
Do the zebra's behave the same way even with the LUT applied? I want to expose my SLOG3 to 94+ Zebras and I am afraid that the baked LUT will somehow affect the exposure and then the Zebras might behave differently.
You’re right about that LUTs would affect the zebra function. It’s better to import a video into your computer to make sure if the exposure level that the zebra detects is right at where you want it to be.
Can you use baked in LUTs for photography? So I can get JPEGs with the LUT baked into them?
Got answer?
@@truesharmajeevesh you can't
Thank you, this is helpful. And is there is some offical good place to download rec709 lut for slog3?
DaVinci Resolve has a built-in lut for sony s-log3 to rec709
@@ConstantineSPhotography aha right, I was thinking about download one for importing into the camera to let the camera apply the lut directly. But it seems the camera also has this lut built in. My camera arrived in a few days, we will see 😬
Any recos where to find luts?
I'v made a video about it! th-cam.com/video/vYLOleqa0n0/w-d-xo.html
can you do the same thing with the a6700??
yes a6700 also has customizable luts
Hi Constantine and thanks for your wonderful explanations. I however have a big problem : when I want to import the luts inside my ZV-E1, it says "This file cannot be loaded", whatever the lut is. Moreover, I cannot find SLOG-3 anymore, as my pictures profiles opportunities go from PP6 directly to PP10. So, PP7, PP8 and PP9 have disappeared. Thanks for helping me, please :-)) go
1 Check whether your lut is a 17-point or 33-point cube file, and the file name should be less than 63 alphanumeric characters
2 This is normal, there's no pp7-9 on ZVE1, you can choose whichever picture profile, set the gamma to s-log3, color mode to S-Gamut3.Cine and there you have the s-log3 setting
@@ConstantineSPhotography thanks for Nr 2 but I don't know what 17-point or 33-point cube file means ?Should this one, for instance, be ok ? "01 P&F Stylecine.cube" because it does not work as all others... I have tried. Should I rename it and if yes, how ? Many thanks again 😀
Try changing the file name to 01PFStylecine.cube
I think it's the problem of "&"
@@ConstantineSPhotography it still does not work. I have red anywhere that it might be because il is a 65 point lut and that it should be converted to a 17 or 33 to make it work. I will forget about it as it works inside Premiere Pro. Thanks anyway for having tried to help me 😉👍🏻😁
At least now you know where the problem is! Try other luts maybe they'll work.
Good video, thanks.
Thanks for supporting!
Thank you for this video. I think it is very confusing that when you enable Log Shooting and select to embed the LUT, that it is ONLY embedded/baked into the footage when you view the clip inside the camera but it is NOT embedded/baked into the footage when you view the clip on the computer. I think this is a software bug.
It is also confusing that when you select a picture profile after the PP11 with your LUT selected, that the LUT actually gets baked into the footage but you don't see if you are shooting in S-Log3 or something else like HLG3 etc.. Your video shows that the base ISOs are 640 and 12,800 so we know that it is indeed S-Log3 but we don't know if the chosen Color Mode is S-Gamut3 or S-Gamut3.Cine.
Thanks for your comment! I think it is confusing too, which is why I made this video to demonstrate how it works and show you how it looks when I choose a certain setting.
nice infos well-delivered. Many Thanks.
Glad it's helpful!
I thought the dual iso was 100 and 2000 for s-cini? And 640 and 12800 for slog With the zve1? Am I wrong?
can that lut be accessed using S&Q menu
Yes it's available in S&Q.
I’d like to see some footage from ZV-E1 shot just in Auto and with baked in LUT to see how it performs vs manual adjust
If it's auto, you can't choose the picture profile and lut, it's only in manual mode.
Oh really? That’s so disappointing
Yeah those are more advanced features that needed to be set manually.
Is it same with ZVE10???
zve10 doens't support customizable luts
Thank you 🙏🏻
You’re welcome 😊
wow that really helped
Glad to hear that!
請問有推薦的lut嗎？
這兩個是我滿喜歡的，不過還是要斟酌用在不同情境才能有恰當的氛圍
freshluts.com/luts/269
freshluts.com/luts/185
想问问如果套lut直出的话还需要向右曝光1.7吗
是的，它的功能其實就跟gamma assist 差不多，還是要過曝會比較好
Welcome to see videos shot in Taiwan.
Thank you! I'm from Taiwan😊😊
@@ConstantineSPhotography Awesome, your videos are very professional, looking forward to more videos
@@GARYTALK thank you very much, more videos coming up!
Didn't work
which part went wrong?
They aren't showing up when I go to import them in. I have them all saved as a cube file all under 64 characters. :/
@@ConstantineSPhotography
@@JakeHenry Check whether your lut is a 17-point or 33-point cube file. It should be indicated at the place you downloaded the lut.
How do I check that?@@ConstantineSPhotography
If you make the lut by yourself, you can choose which format you want to export, but it's not always indicated if you download it from a website.
I think maybe you can try this: freshluts.com/luts/185
I've successfully installed it on my ZVE1. If it also works for you, then you know it's the problem of that lut you couldn't install.
LUMIX S9 в этом плане намного лучше можно 39 лутов загружать и сразу 2 использовать можно по желанию их запекать
I'm not familiar with S9, but 39 luts seem too many to me!
解釋的很清楚，感謝！
謝謝支持！