I think the confusing part to the dealer and the floor was the fact the suspected angle shooter said "OK". He was saying after the fact, that his "OK" wasn't binding and it seemed like the floor was going to give him the benefit of the doubt until they decided to see if his chips crossed the line. Luckily for the other player, he put them over the line but can you imagine if he didn't and the floor ruled that "OK" wasn't binding and he had an option to fold after seeing the KJss?!
Dealer should have confirmed for a pot like that. for that kind of money you just want to confirm everything 100%. I thought it was a call for sure but where is the harm in confirming when a player uses another word instead of 'call'. it takes 2 seconds.
That is so shady. Why play knowing you can be beat and lose money? I can’t stand people like that. Thank goodness they went to the camera. What a shit trying to get out of his all in call!!! Shame shame shame!! Nice win!! 💙💥🍀💰😉
Thats why I like enforcing the betting line, or forward motion of the chips. More than 1 stack forward of cards and line, it's a call, all in, in anyone's book as far as I'm concerned.
There's no "confusion" here. He's just straight up angle-shooting, and it's not even a clever angle shoot. In pretty much any card room in America, the "line" doesn't mean anything... Example, if you were just pushed a mountain of chips from the previous hand, the new hand is dealt, and the player to your right opens for $100 while you're still stacking your chips from the last hand, it's not like they say "well you have chips over the line, so that's a call". The delineation between a call or not is the forward motion which he clearly makes at 14:17. Glad the floor didn't make some dumb decision about whether the chips broke the plane above the table track. This isn't football. You push your stack forward, it's a call.
On the last hand, I agree with ruling, with both forward motion and over the line. My fear was the set as you thought, and then the river paired the board. Great session with the long wait.
He said okey and then puts the chips in front of the Line.... Then the other player shows his hand and villian refuse.... Angleshoot hahaha a donke called whit air and then dont want to lose his money it happens lot of time whit recreational and fools players
what a dream situation flush over flush over flush... and they both had the 2nd and third nuts that's crazy. and UTG was holding the jack of spades too thats a wild hand.
Great final hand to wrap up this vlog! Yes.. it’s definitely forward motion, from your camera angle, so his all in stands.. I would have went all in with your stack too.
I think that one hand was definitely an angle shoot but it is true that dealers sometimes move too fast and get a little careless about verifying the action. I once had a dealer think that I checked when I hadn't done anything. It seems that they will sometimes take even the most subtle movement as a check.
He was definitely all in and angle shooting because he saw he was lost. And I would of left the table after immediately no way am I playing with a guy like that
15:25 Actually, they don't have to put the turn card back since you went all-in and say the early middle player folded and the late position called your all-in. So the turn card is good. If the floor puts the turn card back to the deck, that means they have to shuffle the deck and then you are fucked.
I usually don't word communication with utilizing education. I am glad you found an independent drive , I'm roller skating. Simple . The tournaments are a great experience ; enjoy
A lottery ticket at 2$ can go further , as well. Knowing you are making the reality of the winner and that the winner can be you. Had to add this communication, brings luck
Forward motion is forward motion.. regardless of the line.. definitely angle shooting.. it was wrong for the other guy to flip his card.. Glad it worked out for you.
Negative. Once all action is closed (it was closed bc the jackazz moved all in) it is ok to flip your cards. The Only problem was the jackazz trying to angle- very Happy to see he was busted 👊🏽
I always ask the dealers when I sit down if their bet line is truly commital for just this reason. They all should be, that’s the point of them to avoid these type delays. I was wondering earlier in the video when you take a full stack over it to put in like a $25 or $50 bet. Be careful with that, some would call you on that for the same angle shooting theories. Nice win!
Interesting play style. Just a general comment, I would suggest looking at your bet sizing. I think you bet too large on your c bets (1/2 to 2/3 pot size bets is usually too much for worse range to call, you’re only getting called my even or better ranges). Your 3-bet with the 64s hand was way too small. 15 raise, 15 call you should generally make it 3-4x plus add more for players in the pot. 3x = 45, and then two more bet sizes for two players = $70-75. Study bet sizing, it will help your win rate.
Good afternoon enjoy your blogs. But to clear the flush up. If they deemed it to not be a call. The 6 would have been put into the deck, but the deck would also be shuffled 1 time as the rules state. Thanks again buddy.
Nice win. I had my biggest win last Sunday at Morongo. I was in the 1/3 and 2/5. Won a huge bomb pot to get me up then ran hot after that. Won about 1500/1600 profit.
So the five hour wait was worth it. Nice finish. How about a recap of how 2020 went for you and plans for playing in 2021. Look forward to your next post. Run good Wolf!
Congratulations to huge win! 🤤 I know where you can get more than 58 free spins.Best choice. After all these years, it still thrills me to watch this race!
I've warned you about taking excess chips over the line before but don't think you realized you dodged an open ended straight flush on the board, the 2 or 7 of spades would have been bad to see. Keep grinding Alex
The state of California has lost its mind. Cant believe you have to wait 5 hours to play, I love florida so different lol great vids as always though. Hope you can continue to play!
always such a difficult call mentally I know its standard with 3 spades down and the nut flush draw but so often you're going to be behind with 2 all ins - infront. fair play great turn deserved to smash them. great content keep it up.
The issue seemed to be between the other two stacks. He clearly called your all-in and seemed to want the dealer to count it out. He then pulled back a stack of $100. The bigger stack didn't seem to make any motion and if there is a language barrier then factor in the walls, the other guy may not have known that he went all-in for that last 100.
2 big guys from the pit followed 2 old folks that were winning at the slots all the time to their car in parking lot and told them don't come back here if you know what's good for you. I've learned life hands back exactly what you put in eventually
I think the pot should have been made right before the next card.dont make sense to call 2 all ins with a queen high flush draw. I believe he would have tanked and folded eventually....to me asking if someone is all in and saying ok is not committed...dealer should have confirmed...the guy may have played an angle but I can certainly see wanting to think about it before calling the over the top all in
When you lead with Ah3h, can I ask - what is your leading range? because leads are often top pair with a middling kicker the Q on the turn really saves your bacon. The villain should have snap raised your lead with any 2...
Definitely an angle on that player. But what's hilarious is even if no spaded came, you still would've had the best hand, barring a Queen or Jack coming. Your AK>AQ>KJ. You would've won a $1700 pot with Ace high. Lol
Morongo is 1.5 hrs EAST of LA dude, not south of LA. 1.5 hrs south of LA is San Diego. And yeah, Morongo only has a 1 or 2 tables of each limit, so unless u arrive at Morongo at 7am, the wait is going to be half a day. Jamul is much better, plus u can call in an hr ahead of time.
Angler cheat I’d stay at the table to keep beating him... imagine if he ended up runner straight flush they let him fold then he wants to go all in once he hits 😂 good work
That was a crazy hand. A high vs. K high vs. Q high? I bet if anyone folded the 7s, they were kicking rocks. What was that buffoon thinking with his Q?
Base on ur video, the EMP definitely called and pushed his chips across the line. The middle player made a stupid mistake by showing his hand. I said stupid as if he holds the nut. ✌️
You got your money. They way you put your hand and chips over the line for a call or raise or whatever technically you put the chips over the line. So same thing. Maybe clean that up a little but it was right call your money on the confusing play
No, you may not have won the hand if the 6 of spade was put back in the deck. Because If that happen and the 6 went back in the deck, the dealer would have had to hand shuffle the reminder of the deck. The 4 of spade or any other spade may not have come up on the river. Of course there were still two chances to hit a spade if the 6 of spade went back in the deck.
That's Shady! I would've claimed the pot said my goodbyes and used that as an excuse to hit and run, fuck that kinda vibe and poker etiquette! That's absolutely terrible! Well done on keeping a cool head!
I think the confusing part to the dealer and the floor was the fact the suspected angle shooter said "OK". He was saying after the fact, that his "OK" wasn't binding and it seemed like the floor was going to give him the benefit of the doubt until they decided to see if his chips crossed the line. Luckily for the other player, he put them over the line but can you imagine if he didn't and the floor ruled that "OK" wasn't binding and he had an option to fold after seeing the KJss?!
Early middle position player has his chips ahead of his cards. If he folded his card would be given back. He called. What a cheater.
Dealer should have confirmed for a pot like that. for that kind of money you just want to confirm everything 100%. I thought it was a call for sure but where is the harm in confirming when a player uses another word instead of 'call'. it takes 2 seconds.
i got angled like this a few weeks ago. ur lucky floor went to camera. they didnt for me and i got screwed out of hundreds of bucks
That is so shady. Why play knowing you can be beat and lose money? I can’t stand people like that. Thank goodness they went to the camera. What a shit trying to get out of his all in call!!! Shame shame shame!! Nice win!! 💙💥🍀💰😉
Thats why I like enforcing the betting line, or forward motion of the chips. More than 1 stack forward of cards and line, it's a call, all in, in anyone's book as far as I'm concerned.
There's no "confusion" here. He's just straight up angle-shooting, and it's not even a clever angle shoot. In pretty much any card room in America, the "line" doesn't mean anything... Example, if you were just pushed a mountain of chips from the previous hand, the new hand is dealt, and the player to your right opens for $100 while you're still stacking your chips from the last hand, it's not like they say "well you have chips over the line, so that's a call". The delineation between a call or not is the forward motion which he clearly makes at 14:17. Glad the floor didn't make some dumb decision about whether the chips broke the plane above the table track. This isn't football. You push your stack forward, it's a call.
His angle shooting changes the vibe of the table. I would have left also.
Well done vlog, nice win! Always an enjoyable watch. That was a call, no question about it.
Thanks Doug!
On the last hand, I agree with ruling, with both forward motion and over the line. My fear was the set as you thought, and then the river paired the board. Great session with the long wait.
I got rewarded for waiting it out!
He was all in, and he kept his cards. What a cheater!
Lol, good point...
Yah. Why did he keep his cards the n?
It’s the forward motion that has to be ruled on and not the line , don’t think the line on the table matters . Not where I’m from anyways
Yeah I agree if you shove your chips out there when action is on you that's a call.
A lot of casinos use forward motion, but at Morongo, they use the line.
Some places have what is called a "betting line". Where in order for the bet to be valid the chips must cross the line.
A good dealer will verify all-in calls with a verbal "all-in"?? When it's verbal, it's binding.
He said okey and then puts the chips in front of the Line....
Then the other player shows his hand and villian refuse....
Angleshoot hahaha a donke called whit air and then dont want to lose his money it happens lot of time whit recreational and fools players
Definitely an angle shooter. He has to try lol but that’s an weak move for sure. Glad you came out on top.
he has to try? to cheat? i dont think so...
@@jimpepper1 I don’t think we’re on the same page.
legally if it doesn't pass the line he doesn't have to pay it, big angle shooting
Sick hand. My heart would’ve been pounding. I gotta be honest. I loved when you said scooped the pot before. You changed it up this vlog. Oh well.
what a dream situation flush over flush over flush... and they both had the 2nd and third nuts that's crazy. and UTG was holding the jack of spades too thats a wild hand.
Over the line is Over the line.... eye in the sky confirmed it!!! Good Wolfgang!!!
Graduated from UCLA, that first clip driving through Westwood brought back memories :)
Love Westwood!
Great final hand to wrap up this vlog! Yes.. it’s definitely forward motion, from your camera angle, so his all in stands.. I would have went all in with your stack too.
I think that one hand was definitely an angle shoot but it is true that dealers sometimes move too fast and get a little careless about verifying the action. I once had a dealer think that I checked when I hadn't done anything. It seems that they will sometimes take even the most subtle movement as a check.
Checking your hole cards every monotone board could give information away js 👍🏻
Awesome stuff! Keep them coming!🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
He was definitely all in and angle shooting because he saw he was lost. And I would of left the table after immediately no way am I playing with a guy like that
I would still play with him because hes obviously a bad player. He can try angle shoot all he wants as long as hes shipping that money
I disagree. I Love playing with idiots like that, I stay and Destroy them.
15:25
Actually, they don't have to put the turn card back since you went all-in and say the early middle player folded and the late position called your all-in. So the turn card is good.
If the floor puts the turn card back to the deck, that means they have to shuffle the deck and then you are fucked.
Not necessarily, he still had two chances to hit a spade.
Great video, love watching you play these hands. Congrats on that flush baby!
I usually don't word communication with utilizing education. I am glad you found an independent drive , I'm roller skating. Simple . The tournaments are a great experience ; enjoy
A lottery ticket at 2$ can go further , as well. Knowing you are making the reality of the winner and that the winner can be you. Had to add this communication, brings luck
Morongo will always have a great memory, a BADBEAT jackpot
Whoo-hoo!! Great win!..Chips over the line- all players know what that means.
All I have to say is forward motion.
First of your videos I’ve seen and your play and honesty about it was great. New sub for sure
Thanks Chaz!
Forward motion is forward motion.. regardless of the line.. definitely angle shooting.. it was wrong for the other guy to flip his card.. Glad it worked out for you.
Negative. Once all action is closed (it was closed bc the jackazz moved all in) it is ok to flip your cards. The Only problem was the jackazz trying to angle- very Happy to see he was busted 👊🏽
first time viewer. nice job, nice video, nice win... but that music is nails on a chalkboard
Pocket kings=ace magnets. But he could have royal flush to make it evil. Congratulations on your win!
I always ask the dealers when I sit down if their bet line is truly commital for just this reason. They all should be, that’s the point of them to avoid these type delays. I was wondering earlier in the video when you take a full stack over it to put in like a $25 or $50 bet. Be careful with that, some would call you on that for the same angle shooting theories. Nice win!
Perfect read on the Diamond board, fam.
thanks 🤙🏻
Interesting play style. Just a general comment, I would suggest looking at your bet sizing. I think you bet too large on your c bets (1/2 to 2/3 pot size bets is usually too much for worse range to call, you’re only getting called my even or better ranges). Your 3-bet with the 64s hand was way too small. 15 raise, 15 call you should generally make it 3-4x plus add more for players in the pot. 3x = 45, and then two more bet sizes for two players = $70-75. Study bet sizing, it will help your win rate.
Thanks for the tips!
I got angle shooted at Red Rock casino in Las vegas and when I complained, I got banned. Wish I poker vlogged and recorded it.
I love it when you say nice hand when you have the ace 10. You do realize you sent them the newspaper to read right. Can't stop laughing
That was some shady ish! Glad it worked out for you though. 🙌🏽
Beautiful read on the monotone broadway board.
Helll yeah! Great win! Shady players LOL
Good afternoon enjoy your blogs. But to clear the flush up. If they deemed it to not be a call. The 6 would have been put into the deck, but the deck would also be shuffled 1 time as the rules state. Thanks again buddy.
Nice win. I had my biggest win last Sunday at Morongo. I was in the 1/3 and 2/5. Won a huge bomb pot to get me up then ran hot after that. Won about 1500/1600 profit.
Love it, gotta document!
Wolfgang is a champion!
As are you Mike!
So the five hour wait was worth it. Nice finish. How about a recap of how 2020 went for you and plans for playing in 2021. Look forward to your next post. Run good Wolf!
might have to make a recap video!
Congratulations to huge win! 🤤 I know where you can get more than 58 free spins.Best choice.
After all these years, it still thrills me to watch this race!
Nice win! Wow what a final hand!
I've warned you about taking excess chips over the line before but don't think you realized you dodged an open ended straight flush on the board, the 2 or 7 of spades would have been bad to see. Keep grinding Alex
The state of California has lost its mind. Cant believe you have to wait 5 hours to play, I love florida so different lol great vids as always though. Hope you can continue to play!
Thanks Bradley!
always such a difficult call mentally I know its standard with 3 spades down and the nut flush draw but so often you're going to be behind with 2 all ins - infront. fair play great turn deserved to smash them. great content keep it up.
Thanks!
The issue seemed to be between the other two stacks. He clearly called your all-in and seemed to want the dealer to count it out. He then pulled back a stack of $100. The bigger stack didn't seem to make any motion and if there is a language barrier then factor in the walls, the other guy may not have known that he went all-in for that last 100.
Wild hand! Nice W!
on the last hand a 7 of spades makes a straight flush
Come to jamul casino man. Best poker action in San Diego! Big fan and hopefully you come play this way!
will definitely make a trip out there at some point!
2 big guys from the pit followed 2 old folks that were winning at the slots all the time to their car in parking lot and told them don't come back here if you know what's good for you. I've learned life hands back exactly what you put in eventually
Helluva ending good shit!!
Thanks Rich!
The music was nice.
We can ask for chip racks when we cash out? Or bring your own?
I think the pot should have been made right before the next card.dont make sense to call 2 all ins with a queen high flush draw. I believe he would have tanked and folded eventually....to me asking if someone is all in and saying ok is not committed...dealer should have confirmed...the guy may have played an angle but I can certainly see wanting to think about it before calling the over the top all in
You Heard The Man His Mama Told Him 👏👏👏
Love the vid man
Thanks Jiung!
When you lead with Ah3h, can I ask - what is your leading range? because leads are often top pair with a middling kicker the Q on the turn really saves your bacon. The villain should have snap raised your lead with any 2...
Ahhahah Skechers off the 60fwy. The open areas after. Gonna watch it later.
Damn L.E. closed.
5 hours wtf
He knew he went all-in but as soon as he saw the king high flush he wanted his money back. Great hand though....
I came from the tiktok to learn more, lol thanks for giving me knowledge.
You show pocket J's, and 8s that you didn't play. Did you outright fold those hands or did you try to build pot and folded after flop was bad?
Yeah that early position player was angling.
Definitely an angle on that player. But what's hilarious is even if no spaded came, you still would've had the best hand, barring a Queen or Jack coming. Your AK>AQ>KJ. You would've won a $1700 pot with Ace high. Lol
Lets gooooooooo!!
What day did you go on this video? Trying to head out there don’t want to be waiting 5 hours
First time seeing you. I subbed!
Awesome! Thank you!
Organization are u folding pps and other cards like q9 s ?
Morongo is 1.5 hrs EAST of LA dude, not south of LA. 1.5 hrs south of LA is San Diego. And yeah, Morongo only has a 1 or 2 tables of each limit, so unless u arrive at Morongo at 7am, the wait is going to be half a day. Jamul is much better, plus u can call in an hr ahead of time.
Angler cheat I’d stay at the table to keep beating him... imagine if he ended up runner straight flush they let him fold then he wants to go all in once he hits 😂 good work
clean playing...couldn't play that session any cleaner!!!
Thanks Joel!
wouldn’t the river card have been the burn card & that would have effected the outcome If the floor ruled in favor of the fold ?
5 hour wait!?!? What did you do to kill the time? Table games?
That was a crazy hand. A high vs. K high vs. Q high? I bet if anyone folded the 7s, they were kicking rocks. What was that buffoon thinking with his Q?
you should be 3 betting larger with the 64cc hand.
Yes that guy said ok and moved his chips over the line.
In most rooms that I've played the line doesn't matter. He made a forward motion which commits him.
Wow way to hit and run
Congrats man.
Thanks Jamie!
Great
That’s wssup bro happy u won
Did pechenga open up their room?
Nice win!!
He was in.
Nice win yo
Base on ur video, the EMP definitely called and pushed his chips across the line. The middle player made a stupid mistake by showing his hand. I said stupid as if he holds the nut. ✌️
Don’t understand that AJs/ QJo/ 33/ all folds?? Was it due to action before you, your position, what? Lol I mean those are all semi premium holdings
14:10
Yeah, he called. Just look at how he grab all of his chips.
You left right after that hand!!??
He was all in...
14:19 Angle shooter has his chips over the line. At least on the line. Why are people trying to be shady when there's a camera?
You got your money. They way you put your hand and chips over the line for a call or raise or whatever technically you put the chips over the line. So same thing. Maybe clean that up a little but it was right call your money on the confusing play
Once the the player saw the king of spades all he could try was to take a SHOT and try to save some chips....
No, you may not have won the hand if the 6 of spade was put back in the deck. Because If that happen and the 6 went back in the deck, the dealer would have had to hand shuffle the reminder of the deck. The 4 of spade or any other spade may not have come up on the river.
Of course there were still two chances to hit a spade if the 6 of spade went back in the deck.
elsinore runs poker again now btw
14:20 he calls.14:23 you can see his hand withdrawing some chips from the stack after he pushed it forward. It's a call and he knew it.
@@delg1211 done :)
@@wikwyre I withdraw; you're a gentleman and a scholar 🙏🏻
That's Shady! I would've claimed the pot said my goodbyes and used that as an excuse to hit and run, fuck that kinda vibe and poker etiquette! That's absolutely terrible!
Well done on keeping a cool head!
Do u play blackjack too?
OMC = old man coffee .... old guy who sips coffee all day and is tighter then a clam with lock jaw
Yup. Or reads a book at the table and folds to any raise unless he has exactly KK or AA
Good vlog Thanks