Why Ninja Turtles 3 FAILED
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 มิ.ย. 2024
- TMNT fans almost universally agree that Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 3 is the worst film in the franchise, and here we are 30 years later with three more flawed sequels that all failed to recapture the quality of the 1990 original movie and its sequel The Secret of the Ooze. But none failed as horribly as the third live-action TMNT movie and I wanted to find out why. So here's a deep-dive to compare the film with the core principles of what makes a good sequel to find out why Ninja Turtles 3 failed where the previous two films succeeded. Enjoy!
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00:00 - The Flawed Legacy of TMNT Movies
01:12 - Rules of a Good Sequel
02:25 - Where TMNT 3 Went Wrong
04:40 - The Aftermath
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When the 1987 TMNT Cartoon Series Died - th-cam.com/video/Xo5daPOwyLk/w-d-xo.html
Me personally, I will always blame the downfall of the TMNT movies on 2 things!
1: The crying and complaining of the Parents and Groups after the first movie which lead to them giving in starting with the changes in the second movie!
2: Not sticking with the Jim Henson Workshop team! Come on now, if any team back then could have pulled of the mousers, it was them! Even then they made the Turtles come alive, that and amazing stun actors!
But that’s just my old man beef I have had for a while now 🤣
Clinton's election too. Conspiracy theories can also be easily created as too why the original animated series ended the Saturday before his re-election. It was during his time as President that adult animation could be accepted beyond even The Simpsons.
i'd still rather watch ninja turtles 3 than the newer movies
*Still a better love story than Twilight*
I actually did a few months ago. As kid-orientated and corny as it was, it was still easier to watch that the Michael Bay mess.
@@ultraseb Personally, I would rather watch Michael Bay's produce movies than 3. Don't get me wrong, I don't like those movies either, but I find myself to be way more entertain by those film than I ever did in Turtles 3. Turtles 3 for me just felt like a big waste time.
@@DarkHeroesForever I tell all my kid family members to watch the original and part 2 and to set part three on fire before they watch it
Honestly same Lol
I don’t really care what people say, I love this movie. There are two type of movies; one that I only watch once and never watch again, and there are movies I would watch over and over again and never get bored watching it. This is one of those movies that fits the latter.
Yeah this movie was amazing to me
Totally agree, I always loved this too🤙
You're obviously on drugs
Yeah you’re right they brought back The violence from the original movie yet still toned down because Leonardo uses his swords again
@@troymcclure681 you probably likes the Michael Bay turtles
I always felt that TMNT 3 should’ve added Krang, Bebop & Rocksteady and The Technodrome. It would’ve been a nice end to the trilogy to see more elements from the cartoon we grew up on.
yes.
The budget would have exploded
I heard it was the rights issue. That’s why it took them so long to actually get the characters in the movies
@@DW3010 Yeah and actually the studio wanted Bebop & Rocksteady to appear in the 2nd movie but the Turtles' creators Peter Laird and Kevin Eastman decided against it but even from a business point of view I still think TMNT 3 would've done better than the one we got had they added more of those characters in because kids would be hyped to see them
Unfortunately this movie wasn't as good as the first one and 2nd secret of ooz which was my favorite.
Nothing beats the original TMNT!
100%,the 1st movie has great action,great story,great music and great emotion,the emotion element gets less with each movie which completely ruins it!
Burn out mostly is what "killed" the franchise. In the span of 12 years you had a comic book, a toy line, a 193 episode cartoon show, 3 live action films, a musical touring act, 1 live action TV show, and 12 video games.
Same with the original power rangers.
@@Mxyz Yeah. By 97, I was burned out from the power rangers. That would have been around the time Turbo had started.
@@KRS2000 same as me, Once the remaining OG rangers left, so did I lol.
@@Mxyz During those days, I was missing out on Zeo episodes, so I was having a hard time keeping up with what was happening with the story. Then the Turbo movie came along, and then the story line for that series came along and I had no clue who that Justin kid was. Then Tommy, Adam, and Tanya left, and so was my interest. Then Zordon and Alpha left, and so was I by that point. The last episode I taped was when the power chamber got blown up, and everyone minus Justin went to space.
As soon as it said "To be continued, next season on Power Rangers In Space", I just said "Yeah, I'm done", but realize now that I was already done during Zeo.
@@KRS2000 yeah, it just wasn't the same anymore.
Personally I had zero problem with 3.
The costumes were different yep, but honestly loved it .
Ninja, Samurai, time travel... bit of fun .....
I'm partial to feudal Japan though ...but I certainly didn't think it was as crap as you make out here brother 😉🤘
Appreciate the vid though.
It did failed miserably at the box office.
It is as this youtuber made it out to be.
@@seferino and + it was 1993
@@seferino who cares it’s a classic deal with it
@@theghostofsparta4528 how ?
I wish they could have gone with villains like the Rat king, Baxter Stockman or maybe the continuation of Secret of the Ooze where David Warner was supposed to be an Utrom.
I feel like Walker should have been an ancestor of the Rat King, and his minion was an ancestor of Shredder.
@@matthewballon7553 don’t you mean Ancestors of the Shredder and the Rat king?
@@srstriker6420 Yeah that's what I meant to say sorry.
@@matthewballon7553 well maybe that should have been the rewrite
@@srstriker6420 I agree, I honestly don't see any point in the Emperor and Walker, I didn't see any point of Walker having birds Mitsu that girl could've also been an ancestor to either Splinters master or Oroku saki.
The Shredder in the original TMNT was one of the greatest movie villains I’ve ever seen, I found TMNT 2 disappointing because Shredder didn’t fight and his character wasn’t the same (among other reasons), TMNT 3 bombed, majorly (for me, at least), mostly due to the absence of the Shredder. I didn’t go see it in theatres, tried to watch it on tv once and got bored about halfway through, then changed the channel!
The very first TMNT with shredder will always be number 1 movie. Your right about the second one, I believe they didn't make shredder fight because how he fell like five or six stories into a garbage truck, so they made shredder looked injured from previous battle.
@@Anonymous-gh8kt Actually, from what I understand, the Shredder beating up the turtles in the first one scared a lot of kids... I was 9 when that movie came out and I thought that was the best part of the movie!
@@gymguy25 first time I seen it I was 5, that eas the coolest scene, but I don't know how it scared kids lol
If anything, it probably bothered the parents who were watching with their kids than the kids themselves 😉
@@gymguy25 It made sense to me why they didn't do well against him in the movie. In the first season of the 1987 cartoon, I don't believe the Turtles fought Shredder at all, just Splinter. And he lost on a technicality because Krang needed help. Shredder schooled the Turtles easily in "The Incredible Shrinking Turtles" only to succumb to slapstick the next time.
They used their brains the next time, emphasizing brains over brawn at least.
As a 7 year old, I loved TMNT3 when I saw it in theaters. My mom bought the VHS when it came out and I watched it dozens of times.
I believe what ultimately stole TMNT’s thunder is Power Rangers, which also came out in 1993. I remember kids switching from collecting TMNT action figures to Power Rangers that year. Slow TNNT toy sales means no TMNT4 movie.
Yes thats exactly right
You have to admit though, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles has been more successful at a movie franchise than Marvel’s Fantastic Four. No offense to Marvel.
Ya Fantastic Four has had a tough go. Maybe the next one will break the curse.
i actually like the 2005 version of Fantastic Four and its sequel. it was underrated.
Stop. Just stop. I will never understand the hatred for the Fantastic Four with Chris Evans
@Mona Vanderwaal Yes
@@jamfilmsofficial I’m with you, I’m one of the few fans of both those films
The daytime scenes didn't do those suits any justice that they already didn't have to begin with. Putting the Turtles in more dark scenes would've alleviated their ugliness a little. The night time scenes were where the first 2 films shined the most. Even when the bros were in brighter environments such as their layer it was still somewhat dim. Overexposing them in light just highlighted how much of a downgrade TMNT3's suits were...
I totally agree
It would have been better to just pay Jim Henson’s workshop. It is like the Newline studios went cheapo on purpose so they could make more money off the box office. Pure greed and tomfoolery
You know it was bad when 10 year old me who still had TMNT fever thought it sucked.
It’s not bad chill dude
@@theghostofsparta4528 👍
I was 6 and knew it was bad, honestly. It was so disappointing, cringy and embarrassing. I had a feeling new line would give up with the franchise for a while after this.
I'd actually forgotten there was a third film.
Same
Dude I dont care. TMNT 3 was still better than the Bay sequels. I will take that over them any day lol
Disagreeable.. time travel was not "shoe horned " in because of the video game. The Time Scepter is ripped right out of the early comics. And eventually they did travel back to Japan in the Mirage books.
Some one did their research. 💯 salute.
@@SDSOverfiend thx. ⏳🐢🔮🧝♀️⛩
TMNT III & The Super Mario Bros. movie was a literal one-two punch that year...I saw both of them...in a theater...and I still want my money back 🤦🏿♂️
This was nowhere as bad as Super Mario. Come on
@@LukeLovesRose Coming off the high of the first two movies & the Saturday morning cartoon was still cookin' at the time...uh, yes. It really was that bad.
The theme was great. I actually wanted to see the Turtles as samurai; I thought that was an interesting take--even bought one of the samurai themed action figures before seeing the movie. However, the execution was so tone deaf. If I had something else to do, I swear I would've walked out of the theater
I want the exact same thing is that other guy said in the comments I want a Michael Bay and a TMNT 2007 fun facts video.
Me too
3 did get a few things right.
Some (not all) of the jokes were genuinely funny.
The set design was serviceable; the period costumes would convince a lay audience; and the cinematography actually wasn't half bad. Other than the one infamously bad "bungee jumping without a bungee" shot, 3 doesn't really jar you with "wait, that shot doesn't look right" moments. The writers may very well have left something on the table, but the set, wardrobe, and camera crews did yeoman's work on this one.
And the "Tomorrow, you might die" scene did have a competent level of gravitas, which...actually was no small feat, when you consider that it had a child actor (in his only screen role, no less!) acting opposite one of those bulky turtle suits.
No, it's not great; but I think the radically different costume designs, and the admittedly lackluster script, make the whole thing seem worse than it arguably was. It definitely had its moments, and it generally did well below the line.
Yes, it probably should have been better; but it definitely could have been worse.
Thanks for sharing Trevor
There was no sense in making a time-traveling "sequel" while throwing away all established things from just the prior movie. The turtles acted if there were zero threat in the city without Shredder. They brought back Casey Jones to play hockey with four guards. They clearly did not give a crap about David Warner returning as an utrom, or the ooze canister taken away. They didn't care about the trilogy. The ONLY thing they did right was allow more actual combat, though it comes off overly cheesy like the rest of the film. What makes it even worse besides the turtles designs being less good looking than the first, is the high budget that doesn't look like it went anywhere, to make "john wayne" walker the main villain. The dimule easily could've been an ancestor of shredder's, and been far more sinister in regards to his son and Mitsu. The joke levels are also way too high. The movie dived in power rangers territory and came out when people wanted more of what the established movie canon was, and got a somehow expensive direct-to-video sequel. The first sequel was literally 100,000,000 or more times better than it, and given it's flaws, that's saying something, when we had to deal with a more campy shredder, and a ridicoulous finale.
@4:43 That's INSANE!
For a being the worst of the trilogy it did pretty damned well I'd say.
I think TMNT 2007 was okay I think a lot of it stems from the fact that they used CGI and I mean I get that but that shouldn't take away from the story it was trying to tell
I think the main problem was it's expectations about the audience. It relied too heavily on prior knowledge about the characters and lore. It's awesome if you knew everything but falls flat if your waiting for it to explain who certain characters are.
@@yujiro424 that's pretty fair
At the end of Secret when Super Shredder's hand rose up from the rubble, you would kind of expect he would have been involved in the following movie, no matter how major or minor.
It rose but immediately went limp as did Shredder's breath. So yes, "nobody could have survived that!" and it was "the end of the Shredder".
As a 10 year old kid when it came out I recognized right away that the costumes were pretty crappy compared to the first 2 movies but gave the movie a shot and did end up enjoying it on some level being a pretty hard core Turtle fan at the time. It was entertaining enough to watch and enjoy for what it was at the time.
I'm guessing Im the only one who enjoyed TMNT as a kid even now I still love this film it was different I guess they didn't wanna do the same thing again
i enjoy it also it is what it is.
I hated this film as a kid. Found it mostly boring with no memorable new characters and a dull setting. My favorite as a kid was the 2nd movie. However I recently watched all 3 films recently and couldn't feel any more different now. The 1st one is a classic and without a doubt the best. The 2nd was is terrible and extremely annoying. They go too far with the silliness. However the club scene still holds up well and the new Asian kid and the 2 big monsters are interesting as far as characters go. The 3rd film I'd have to say is better than the 2nd one. Sure there's no new interesting characters and the setting is worse than the 1st two films but at least the tone of the film goes back to more how it was in the 1st film unlike the 2nd movie. Had they changed the setting to an alien planet and made the villain Krang, I think the film would have been a lot more successful.
@@blueblur2273 me personally I loved this film as a kid I mean when I look at it now as an adult it's not that great the story was different to what where used to but I still enjoy watching cause it's my childhood I'd prefer watching this anyday over the Michael bay reboots
I personally really loved the 2007 movie, it had a lot more nuance you would notice after the initial viewing, and I wish the planned sequels had become a reality.
its a shame what they did with that film, i owned the whole trilogy as a kid, but after my disappointment, i never felt willing to take a chance on watching any of the later films
That was a poor decision fam
@@TheInfantry98 was it really? i mean the only truly things worth watching were the shows
@@TheInfantry98 well, everyone makes decisions in their life they have to live with, no point dredging up old ones, or being bitter about them, eh?
Yeah The Movie Was Awful Comapre To First Two Films In The Trilogy Literally The Worst Film In Trilogy But Did Ninja Turtles 3 Made So Much Money In The Box Office Like The First Two Films
Judith Hoag is still the best April O’ Neil and it’s not even close.
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Megan Fox
@@christian_user23 megan fox as april o neal doesnt even sound right.
I don’t know if I agree with the stakes being so unnfamiliar to Turtle fans.
Time travel seemed to be a recurring theme in the comics.
Yeah this youtuber doesn't know what he's talking about. It's easy to judge and criticize when your job only consists of watching the movie and not creating it
Give the Michael Bay movies some credit, they at least FEEL like Ninja Turtle movies!
I'm convinced that the original script for this movie was meant to be a dramatic period piece set in Edo Japan meant as an homage to the films of Akira Kurosawa. But somewhere down the line some brain dead executives at New Line said "Hey! We're making a third Ninja Turtles movie and that Turtles in Time game is popular! Let's turn this historical drama script into a Ninja Turtles movie! I'm a genius!"
I owned all three movies growing up and they were my only window into the TMNT franchise. I missed out on the 2003 series and I didn't even know the '87 series existed until I saw this review in 2011/2012. So even with my small experience with the Turtles even as a kid I knew Turtles III was such a bizarre and disappointing left turn for a Ninja Turtles movie.
The only thing I recall from TMNT 3 was the absolute garbage costumes.I didn't even watch the movie cause the costumes sucked so bad...TMNT 1 and 2 is what I remember.The effects and the overall feel of those movies just felt like they hit it right.
There were early plans for a fourth instalment, a script entitled "TMNT IV: The Foot Walks Again" was written by Craig Shapiro and John Travis. Peter Laird has released concept designs for a version which he says would have been titled "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles IV: The Next Mutation". Playmates catalogues indicated a fourth film would be released in 1996 but it never materialised.
As a kid I loved this film, it wasnt the best but I take it anyday over the next mutation series thats what ruined the franchise
There was no shredder, no krang, no bebop/rocksteady (or even toka/raja). It had nothing to do with nothing except they brought back casey jones, but he didnt even have any scenes with the turtles
As a kid i absolutely loved this movie.
I was 12 years old when the first one came out and the fact they treated a little darker made every kid love it all the more. It was like they were finding something that we loved and taking it very seriously.
The 3rd was PG
The 3rd movie just bored me to tears. The 1st one was good. I have always preferred 'THE SECRET OF THE OOZE'. I loved it and still do. The 3rd movie just bored me to tears. The 1st one was 'ok' to me. But then again I was 10 years old when it came out, lol.
I always wished the 2007 TMNT Movies had some sequels because I quite liked that film and still do, they had plans for many fan favorites but it wasn’t well liked so… here we are.
The 3rd is golden! People that hate it need a brain scan. The 3rd movie had the "Tarzan Boy" scene with the Honor Guards and Casey Jones in the arcade, best scene in all 3 except the Turtle Bowling Ball scene the first movie.
2007 needs to be shown respect though
The tmnt 2007 movie. I wish they did a pre-qual then a sequel on that franchise
I agree with most of the points made here, but there are some wrong things said.
The time traveling story and the Time Scepter itself were story ideas that had 1st appeared
in the original TMNT B/W comic books from MIRAGE Studios.
Alas....if they had actually gone with an adaptation of THAT story instead of the one that they did
then we'd have seen characters like Lord Simultaneous, Renet and Savanti Romero introduced.
(maybe even Cerberus the aardvark....but probably not)
Considering how monstrous looking Savanti Romero's design actually is,
they'd have never been able to put it out and still keep the kid-friendly aesthetic.
But then again...Terry Giliam's "Time Bandits" was one of my favorite movies growing up.
And seeing as how by the time the 3rd movie had come out, most the children fanbase were older by then anyway,
So I really could see the 3rd TMNT movie being more like Time Bandits, scary parts and all.
(in fact....in the original TMNT comicbook, Lord Simultaneous's 1st appearance
actually looks a lot like The Supreme Being seen in Time Bandits)
As a kid growing up in the 90s I loved the 1st 2 ninja turtle movies but I clearly didn't like watching the 3rd! I don't think I've seen the 3rd more than twice because I just wasn't interested in it!
Turtles 3 should have been more of a follow up from secret of the ooze. It would have been nice if they would have talked about the krang and dimension x. That would have been hot. But what was it like 1992 so likely they didn't have the technology back then and it probably would have been like a big sci-fi channel b rated movie. But still choose original turtle movies from the '90s then Michael Bay's versions which were so so. Now I can't wait to see what Seth rogen does with his version of the turtles since he's working on that. As long as we get a nostalgic bits from the original into this new version of his, even though it's CGI, that'll be pretty good hopefully.
What is it about green things that make them so great. Turtles, The Incredible Hulk, money, and weed and all green, and all great.
Hello I kinda loved part three!!!
What did you enjoy about it?
I’m with ya! Ooze is trash. This is coming from someone who’s watched 1+2 a thousand times over the years. It’s only recently, after I watched 2+3 back to back that I realized it. I was living a lie!
Fun Fact Films the humor- it was so goofy!!!
@@FunFactFilms me too
Part 3 was trash. It literally made me dislike TMNT
I’m still waiting to get my money back after seeing this terrible sequel.
3 was a cash grab Nothing more. 4:46 is proof of that.
Everyone, even Splinter, was goofier than ever. That's where the bad things end. The action was good at least, and so was the rebellion story. I always figured that the season 7 episode "Legend of Koji" was made as an apology for this movie, even though the bigger reason was James Avery was quitting as Shredder's VA and he would have been perfect for this instead of the replacement VAs that would follow. Yes, he would have one more episode; but was overshadowed by the Black Heart gang.
Here is a question.. why isn’t the second April O’niel actress who played April in two TMNT movies as active in TH-cam and at the Cons as Judith H. is with TMNT 🤔
@Pro Token420 what is the real reason Judith H. got replaced? Has she talked about it? or is there a source that talks about the truth or are simple speculations?
I think it's because Judith Hoag really likes the fans and is a true fan of the first movie herself.
She is a woman of high quality tastes and refined judgement! To say the least, of course...
Overall I like TMNT 3, it's not great (not great by any imagination) but it's still was good. TMNT 1 and 2 will always will be the better films, even better than the Michael Bay movies
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I feel like a time travel plot was a fine swerve for the third film, if they'd just done it better. Fewer awful jokes, better turtle suits, perhaps some tie in to the actual ancient foot clan with a Saki ancestor.
Ya, I thought the jokes were dull, and having the story tie in to the ancient foot clan would’ve been much better
While I don't necessarily disagree with the points made in the video, it should be noted that Ninja Turtles III was said to be the "last one" anyway. As well, the plot with the sceptre is loosely (very loosely lol) based on the comics, so it isn't completely out of left field.
Did the film contribute to the decline of turtlemania? Probably. But I don't think it was the only reason that we didn't see the Turtles back on the big screen until TMNT.
It's more of a shame that this film failed. I was big into the comics as well and was hoping for some Usagi action, but, alas, while the premise of the film itself is enjoyable, the end result was lackluster.
Is it weird that I want a 2007 and Michael Bay TMNT Fun Fact Film episode now?😂
Yeah, it's not great. But I think too many people put Secret of the Ooze on the same pedestal as the first film when to watch them all now it becomes evident only the first movie really nailed it. I actually find the concept of sending the turtles to Japan a great idea. But Walker is a total misfire. Now if the turtles had to go up against Oroku Saki's clan while learning more about the origin of their fighting style and Yoshi's clan? That would have been top tier. Fights in feudal Japan would have raised the stakes over thugs in NY.
I like the idea of having it tie in to the origins of the foot clan
"TNMT3 made 3x it's own budget..."
"nO NinJA TurTLe MOviE was As bIG a FAiL aS TNMT3"
TNMT3 was easily my favorite of the trilogy, though admittedly the costumes weren't as good. I really loved the story and taking the turtles out of their element, turning them into the teachers instead of the students.
I saw all 3 live action Ninja Turtles films in theaters (I was in Junior High and then High school the years those came out). Yes, they each got progressively worse, and the 3rd movie was bad, but I don't know if the 3rd movie alone killed the franchise. The window for Ninja Turtle mania started winding down in 1992 (when Fox Kids took over kids imagination with shows like "Batman" and "X-Men"). The Ninja Turtles were at their most popular from 1989 to 1991 (on a side note, I find is similar to how Pokemon was at the height of it's popularity from 1999 to 2001). 1992 and 1993 were "okay" for Turtles fans, but 1994 to 1996 were the Twilight Years. A good 3rd film wasn't likely to save the franchise, kids had moved on to Batman and this new "anime" craze that was starting to kick in, with the 90's.
I loved the third movie and loved the time travel concept
Too
Trash
Yeah, it was my favorite one as kid. I liked the feudal japan aspect, and it's more relaxed feel.
I don’t know if you can still say the old movies failed compared to the new ones that’s pure hot trash
TMNT 3 1993 Wasn’t So Bad But I Thought It Wasn’t That Great Either I Can See Why Many Reasons TMNT Fans Didn’t Like The Movie
1: Not Going With The Jim Henson’s Creature Company From The First Two Previous Films And The Turtles And Splinter Looking Like Garbage Compare To The Secret Of The Ooze And First 1990 Film
2: They Should’ve Had Some New Villains From The Cartoon Series
3: The Turtles Travelling To Feudal Japan Was A Good Idea But It Could’ve Been Alot Better By The Writters If It Was Done Well And Better Villains
4 : The Jokes That Are Too Corney And Doesn’t Work
It's so painfully obvious
I kept wondering why they never fought some ancient shredder and ancient foot clan, that would have been cool
Honestly for someone who grew up before the internet age. This film was a gateway into Japanese culture. As I got older and got more aquatinted with Japanese culture. I realized how historically accurate feudal Japan looked in the film. I can only think of two other productions that were American made, but historically accurate cultural wise. James Shavel's Shogun and The Last Samurai. That was the biggest take away for me that I really liked about this film.
For me, I didn't think it was bad as it seemed. Sure, it was inconsistent, but it had its moments.
I couldn't agree more. The third was a huge flop. I was disappointed then, and my opinion on it has not changed, if not worsen. The majority of us agree with what was shared in this video. The first installment was a borderline perfect overall movie, in my opinion. Nearly everything about it has aged really well in regards to the undeniably phenomenal costumes (Thank you, Jim Henson!), solid plot, lovable humor, and dark tone.
Turtles 3 was absolute GARBAGE. I remember almost walking out of the theater when seeing it.
I Agree I’m 100% Procent Sure When It Keep Out And When Kids And Everyone Went In The Theaters They Were Pretty Exited And We’re Wow The Third Movie Is Out And That Was Gonna Be Good As The Secret Of Ooze And The First Movie But After They Saw The Movie They Probably Were Not Very Happy When They Walked Out Of The Theaters I But TMNT 3 Could Of Been A lot Better Movie If It Was Jim Henson’s Company
@@abdoulkarimbandatmntpowern1815 your wrong cuz I saw the movie when I was very young and loved the film.
@@TheInfantry98 yea I didn’t realize how bad it was till I got older.
I was a kid but i dont think i developed my judgemental senses i guess i just saw it as different but didnt like it as much as 1st and 2nd
@@kashourikatsu2543 Same Here But It Felt Like 2nd Movie Was More For Kids And 1st First Movie Was More Adult Beacuse They Didn’t Use They’re Weapons In Part 2
Even as a kid, I hated how dumbed down and childish they had become. Nothing ever compared to the first film.
Meh, TMNT 3 was my favorite movie out of all them. I watched.. it on VHS.. probably... at least twenty times.
I hated the secret of the OOZE... my memory of why I disliked it, was perhaps the mutation and origin and animation wasn't that great. The first movie was pretty solid and familiar.
So how do I digest the series... I didn't watch the cartoons all the time.. but.. my cousin and I had toys. I played TMNT turtles in time... the game and it was multiplayer so great game... compared to the NES one that I thought was impossible as a... 5-8 year old I guess. to then.. 13 year old... Time was moving, of course there is market saturation and other forms... that affect a system. Making 3x times the amount.. plus the merchandise plus post movie rental/sales... and posters...
I feel like there was a missed opportunity to make a Ninja Turtle quadrilogy. The first movie had a theme of teenagers, with Danny and the other wayward kids being tempted to join the Foot. The second movie had a theme of mutants, with the turtles learning about their origin with the ooze and the Foot creating two new mutants. The third movie had a theme of ninjas with the turtles traveling to feudal Japan. They could have rounded it all out with a fourth movie with turtles as the central theme. Four turtles, four words in the title, four movies in the series. It would feel thematically complete that way.
I just went on a Turtles binge and watched 3 for the first time time in like 20 years and watched TMNT for the first time. 3 is better than 2 and TMNT is pretty good! I didn’t realize how bad 2 was. I’ve hyped it in my mind. There’s no action! 2 had Henson’s creature shop going for it, for sure, but watch 2 and 3 back-to-back. You’ll get over the costumes (and the disturbing Splinter Puppet…maybe). The story and action are way better. 2 has just as many “pop culture” references and is just so bad.
You pretty much summed it up right there. People can't get over issue of worse turtle costumes and no Shredder to actually watch the movie and honestly compare the second and third films side-by-side.
I never understood in the second movie why they created two monsters and didn’t bring in Bebop and Ricksteady or Krang
@@martynodonnell8467 Wasn't it because Eastman & Laird didn't want the cartoon stuff in their movie?
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I agree with this review. As a child of the 90s the 1st movie was perfect, the 2nd ok & the 3rd I remembered thinking what the funk is this.
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The 3rd movie was confused
Only film I ever saw once in the theater never watched it again. Total crap that killed the Turtles for a long time.
Casey Jones murders shredder in the 1st movie. And when the cops showed up they didnt care and the didnt take Casy Jones to jail. Did anyone catch that?
Yeah I definitely agree the only thing I liked about this film was raph and the kids relationship I thought it was kinda sweet
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I was a huge TMNT fan, when I was a little kid! And it stands out in my mind, that despite watching it on television, every chance I got, and seeing both movies at least over 20 times, I never had any interest in watching the third film. To this very day, I don't recall earner having seen more than bits and pieces of it, at relatives house. I had no interest in the toys from TMNT 3 either.
“Made for five year olds.” lol 😂 I guess that’s why TMNTIII is my favorite. Born Dec 23, 1987 (nine days AFTER S1 E1 Turtle Tracks was released), I was five in 1993; TMNTIII was made for me :3
Totally disagree on the statement that Shredder shouldn’t have been in TMNT 2. The movie had shortcomings but Shredder definitely belonged in that flick.
The animated TMNT movie that came out in 2007 was able to reproduce the quality of the first two live action TMNT movies.
The CGI film is ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC! It’s works as a direct sequel to the first film and definitely is one of the best additions and WAY WAY WAY better than “Secret Of The Ooze”
I actually liked this film as a kid. Probably because it was just stupid fun.
Don't really wanna see it again - I'd rather not spoil my nostalgia.
TMNT 3 is trash and I agree what you said. Pretty much, almost everyone would say the same reason you said.
I love all 3 TMNT 90’s movies
Honestly no TMNT film was good aside from the first, while Secret of the Oozes can be entertaining, I just wish the filmmakers would've just stick to the tone that the original had established and continue on from that. Personally, I think the 2007 CGI film was the best out of all the sequels and reboots because it returned to that darker roots that many of the fans had been clamoring about, after the original and it gave us a great moment between Leo and Ralph they had there big confrontation which I'm sure is what a lot of people haven't scene before when it comes to Ninja Turles, giving some good character moments which is something I could barely say for either of the two that came before. The real issue is the fact that it has a crappy villain plot that feels like it belongs in a different movie.
The reason why the tone was different in secret of the ooze was because parents complained about how dark and violent the first movie was the complaint resulted in the turtles barely using there weapons and turning comedic!
@@caden141I am aware of that, but guess what, that darker tone is what made that movie successful to begin with because many people who saw it, felt they were watching real movie (that just so happen to have four mutated Turtles and a rat), not a 90 minute episode of the cartoon in live-action, which sadly is pretty much what TMNT 2 (and especially 3) was and that movie made less by comparison to the first and it had a higher budget. Like seriously, man.
Even as a kid, I hated this movie.
They have finally made a good movie for the TMNT almost as good as the original the best since that's for sure and that was the crossover with Batman movie.
Yes! That movie is phenomenal! Even with the terrible looks of the turtles there (especially my favourite Donatello), I don't really mind, I watch it over and over :D And the crossover comics it's based on are my favourite as well. Just the way I like the turtles, like the original cartoon, but with the tone of the original comics :)
This one to me was all over the place it took awhile to find out who was the villain now as a kid I watched and loved it cause it was a new Turtle movie now at 30 I now know why this was my least favorite one
i remember as a kid, absolutely loving the Turtles, but i remember walking through the city with my mom during peak turtle mania and thinking grown ups had gone over the top with this, you could literally buy turtle branded anything, there were turtle balloons everwhere, guys dressed up as turtle doing street performances, it seemed the whole world had gone turtle mad
Don’t forget coming outta their shells music tour…god that the worst the turtles ever been
Part 3 was so bad it's the only movie I've ever walked out of the theater while it was still on.
I was like 5 when I seen this movie and thought it was incredible
I'm not sure it's fair to say TMNT 3 is the reason the franchise failed. There was a sequel to this film. It was just in television form instead of movie form. they did a live action TV series that took place after this movie and brought the return of the Shredder and a new female turtle into the picture. Once that show failed it was clear the franchise was dead.
If were gonna be real here the decline of the series really began with TMNT 2. Even though the film made more than it's budget(so did TMNT 3 )the film didn't achieve nearly the same amount of box office success of the 1st film because they made it too "kiddie". And from that point on the series just went on a slow decline.
Now I understand why everyone hates the 3rd TNMT movie, no matter we have different opinions but I still love 3rd TNMT movie along side Halloween III season of the witch that doesn't features the Michael Myers story line
The 07 movie while flawed was what movies should be......fun.
The fighters greatest adversary, Father Time.
Time killed Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
It’s funny the show inspired the movie but then the the show became a parody of itself and relied to much on the original movie by putting clips of it on the intro in the later seasons.
TMNT 3 was my favorite when I was kid. But as an adult the first one is my favorite. But still like the 3rd one.
I remember watching this as a kid back in the day and not knowing why it was so drastically different and wasn't my favorite
...TMNT 2007 was pretty good...it's my second favorite, beside the first...the relationship between Leo and Raph, in both the first movie and TMNT, is well written...this is coming from a Mickey guy...but family matters always get me...
I loved the 2007 film. The fight between Leo and Raph was awesome. I don't have time to read comics but I didn't think Leo can be arrogant against Raph despite being level headed.
I heard that the planned (then canceled) 4th installment was suppose to bring back Shredder (or Super Shredder) and the Foot. Maybe some day they’ll bring that movie out. It could take place after the second movie ignoring the events that occurred in the third film.
What do you mean by that ?
Good review, by the way; and spot on. Casey was only there because they were already using his actor for Whit, so why not? Casey too was goofier than ever, but at least had some fun in this movie. All this was was a rebellion movie with the TMNT and co. probably to get kids ready for Lord of the Flies? Who knows? I didn't read that until Grade 12. Done right, it would have been perfect, but I can see why it was done this way just as I could with Secret of the Ooze.
What other movie would you like to see in a "Why...Failed" episode?
The meteor man I don't know if that failed but we don't here about this film it never shows on TV either it's one of those rare films that people need to know about
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No those might bay versions were by far worse then the third movie.
Chicken Little
Harley Davidson and the Marlbolo Man, ed wood, suburban commando, no holds barred, and uhf