Drove this and the mazda3 hatch recently... I wanted to love the mazda but I didn't. The Civic was significantly faster and handles better imo. Civic cabin is lighter and visibility is way better... the mazda3 feel is dark and tight (which some people might like) with honestly bad visibility in the hatch Also, the Civic has more cargo space and it's not the same ballpark... the mazda cargo space is tiny. The mazda looks great and the interior design is nice.
@@t.k.morris yeah got the 2019 civic hatch sport touring. It’s been great. I just got the CVT as it’s mainly commute driving (or it used to be at least). It’s a good CVT, I don’t even notice.
We really like our 2020 Civic Sport Sedan manual with the 6 speed manual and the K20C2 engine no turbo no GDI, Never had a problem with it so far 🇺🇸👍. But I did upgrade the headlights to Morimoto XB LED headlights and smoked taillights lights with the sequential turn signals and the sequential side markers.
Your shifting seems as quick as mine, but I think it's better to lift-off the gas a tad quicker. Not sure with other cars, but with the Genx Civic, making sure you get off the gas first doesn't slow you down and bonus reduction on pesky front-drive chirp. However, ugly rev hang is still there, something I don't experience with my 2.0L 6MT Sedan (I might have subconsciously adjusted to it, but it's definitely not as bad as that 1.5t). That Touring Sedan did seem slower. It might be a weight thing, but I think it'd be at a disadvantage against my 2.0L 6MT that only wieghts 2770lb and accelerate to 5800 to 6800 rpm in a blink (lower gears). Another factor is brake-in..mine's at peek power with about 60k on the odo... Japanese port injection tend to take awhile before they start getting quick, while direct-inject needs tlc.
@@argen809 2.0L k20C02 engine is an old school engine that was brought back by Honda. It used to be the RSX 2.0L but modernized. It's port injection and shares the same engine block as the Type-R. (whoever, type-r is direct injection). North America Formula 4 uses the same engine in their race cars. It might not have the Turbo boost as the 1.5T (which is direct injection) but it's a proven engine for race situations and like to hang-out at the redline. Most people are running it with a cvt transmission, but when you hook it up with 6MT, it has more personality.
@@ElNelsonMundo yep. The clutch is the left handle that looks like a bicycle brake and shifter is a little lever over your left foot. Down for 1st gear up for the rest. That is if you start in neutral
I mean...it's way way way easier on a motorcycle. At least the experiences I've had. Been driving my manual subaru for a year now and still struggle to be smooth quite often. Whereas I was smooth on the motorcycle basically the first time I ever tried.
The Honda 1.5 is hands down the best motor in the small displacement category . Has oil sprayers for the pistons and cylinder walls which cools and lubricates= Longevity. Has a patented design crosshatch pattern on the cylinder walls to reduce friction consequently heat= Longevity. Has a water cooled exhaust pre turbo for cooler operating = Longevity. Has injector ports slightly aimed at the intake valves to keep them clean of carbon = Longevity. List goes on. Its a motor designed for a turbo and GDI starting with block. The oil dilution is totally over blown. Some of the first motors in the northern states had some issues because people were starting their cars making short runs and they had no time to warm up. This in turn would not let the oil get hot enough to evaporate the extra fuel that gets dumped at start. Since these motors are designed to run cooler it takes more time to warm them up. To solve this issue one needs to change oil every 5000 miles during the winter instead of 7 or at least keep an eye on the dip stick once and awhile. Summers are no problem in fact these motors eat it up for the reasons listed. 99.9% of the people won't have a dilution issue with these motors because they get warmed up and Honda did a redesign of the programming -another reason not to buy new production models of an engine . If I lived there I'd put a plastic cover over my radiator like a diesel truck but on the inside during the winter months. If you want to spend a few extra bucks you can install the thermo operated vents to really dial it in. Hell even Toyota needs to add an extra injector to the intake of their GDI motor to keep their intake valves clean which adds another level of complication and has only acquit cooling. Seems like an after thought solution to GDI carbon build up. Watch for a redesign. If I was in the market for a compact car this year I'd by the Honda Hatch with the 6 spd but their CVT's are pretty solid and they have paddle shifters to play with. First, all the hatches are produced in 1 factory located in England( Serious quality control). Inside they have alot of room for the compact segment without being big outside. They handle great, (Mazda 3's have that old school torsion tube rear suspension and that compression timed spark motor) they have enough power to get you in trouble without going crazy and sacrificing durability, and they have a good price point for what your getting. Hell go thru Costco and save a few bucks because you will need to order a 6sp hatch and wait a few months. Fing resale is unbelievable. Just buy new and get the warranty along with having only 1 longshoremen's fart on the seat. Looks. If I bought one I'd by the Sport model and save my money for gas. Hell who needs a Vac-U-Jack or heated rear seats of the touring. Next I'd paint the black fake vents the same color as the body along with the spoilers. It really tones down the ricer look. I think the front is fine stock but I think the rear gets in your face and painting them does take it down a notch. Heck its a Honda they are coming up with 50 different inserts and some that really work. I really don't care that much because the mechanical's shine for a compact at this price point and because they designed the motor to take a turbo and GDI starting with the block and they are rolling with 300,000 no problem. Thats my take.
I ONLY drive manual transmissions and I have to say it is so hard to find a manufacturer that doesnt ruin the experience with horrible rev hang. No wonder take rate of manual transmission is so low. They are taking all the fun out of it. Mazda in my opinion does it best. A mazda 3 or mx5 with manual is top notch
@@MrTrashcan1 I have never tried those. I have driven a veloster N which definitely did have some pretty bad rev hang, but only between the 1-2 shift. I think a lot of people naturally shift at a slower speed and don't even realize they are dealing with rev hang. Most young drivers only have experience with 1 manual transmission and have nothing to compare to. Drive any porsche, mazda, hell even a BRZ and you will see what no rev hang is like.
This is a great car but minus the rattles. I have a 18 and the interior around the driver area rattles like nothing else. Dash, glove box, headliner, seats all rattles.
@@x1prodigy0x yeah I'm starting to get annoyed of it. Thinking of getting mazda3 or maybe even a Kia Stinger. Would you deal with all these rattles for the next 5 to 7 years?
@@kalashnikov1343 not really crazy. Toyota and Hondas of old were built more solidly then they are now (I can say for honda at least) all these rattle want me to trade the car in since some literally sound like they are next to my ear so music doesn't fix it
@@A_guan yeah that's very disappointing especially on a new car. I've heard of paint issues too on new model Hondas. It's a shame. You could attempt to find the rattles and tighten things down or cram some foam blocks in the gaps. I think I'd attempt to fix it before I traded it in. Then again I don't know as my car doesn't rattle
He listed a time of 7.5 for the Civic Turbo manual hatchback. That is exactly the same as the Corolla Manual hatchback. With slightly less weight and an extra 11hp /26 Torque I would have thought the Civic would be faster.
The reason I've been given in the past is that the Hatches are built in the UK, and the Si is only built in Ontario. For some logistical reason, it's not possible to mix them.
Might be similar situation like the Accord 2.0T. The 2.0T Accord uses the same engine as the Type-R, but they can't just do a body swap to make an Accord Type-R. The Northern American made Accord uses a Japanese wiring harness, and it is not compatible with the German made sensors and ECU/computers. This was mentioned in an interview with Hondata about how Honda *could* make, and revive the Accord Type-R. Hatchbacks are made in the UK, and it might be a pain in the ass to make it work with the North American electronics, etc.
I had a 2016 1.5t with a manual and the rev hang made it miserable to use. It made it where you either had to shift unrealistically slow, or shift at your regular speed and have it be jittery and lurchy. Also, the shifter gates felt like a Tonka plastic toy shifter.
Rev hang is killing standard vehicles. I had a 2020 Si Coupe that has it bad and driving that car was horrible because of it. I couldn't stand how the car drove. I would rather get an automatic vehicle than have a standard vehicle with rev hang. I can't stand the rev hang. I traded the Si in a couple weeks ago and half the reason I traded it in is because of the rev hang.
@@TheRandallSan Good point! It would be nice to have the middle ground of performance. I would love an Si hatch a bit cheaper than this model with a bit better performance and skip the leather, etc.
Well the thing about Honda & Toyota is the automakers are aware that many wanted to drive a manual because of what manual tends to do like if you don't release the clutch slowly or simultaneously hit the gas, the car can stall and in some cases it can jerk when your try to switch between 1st to 2nd or even 3rd in rare cases. So what manufacturers have done is they have almost deleted the initial stall so even if you release it slowly or dump the clutch the car in most cases will not stall, rather it would kinda encourage you to now step on the accelerator pedal inorder to move forward (almost similar to what we see in automatic cars as in when we shift in to 'D' the car wouldn't stall or jerk but would kinda move forward). Secondly they have also kinda addressed in deleting the jerkiness while shifting gears, so you can now pretty much shift the gears smoothly without much hassle and have a more relaxed and fun experience.
I'd have to spend more time with the manual Mazda3 to say for sure, but from my first impression I'd lean towards the Mazda over this Civic, especially since they're basically the same price. If I was on a budget I'd probably save a few bucks and go for the Corolla Hatch.
Buy the LX. The LX has no rev hang. I had a 2018 LX Coupe and it had zero rev hang. I had an Si after the LX and I regretted getting rid of the LX for the Si so much because of how bad the rev hang is on the Si. I ended up getting rid of the Si and half of the reason I got rid of it is because of the rev hang. Rev hang made it absolutely horrible to drive.
@@rastradamus1074 when it is freshly washed. But it's hard to keep clean. Had a black 99 Si and you had to frequently wash to keep it looking good. Pollen in the spring was horrible and black also makes the car hotter in the summer.
As a daily commuter in an area with tons of traffic, driving manual isn’t ideal. I’d like an auto, but cvt is shit. They also have problems. Turbo isn’t good for long term either. Probably going to Toyota.
Honda ruined the 2020 Si with horrible rev hang so I'd stay away from the Si. I had a 2020 Si Coupe and the rev hang completely killed the experience for me. I got rid of the car a couple weeks ago and half the reason i got rid of it is because of the rev hang. Obviously, what you do is up to you but my suggestion is stay away from the Si until Honda fixes the rev hang issue in them. I had an LX before the Si and I'd go for the LX over the Si any day if I had to choose again because the LX has no rev hang.
@maychieus It's hard to find a standard in any vehicle these days. I got lucky to find an LX that was a standard. As for the Si, the Si's only come in standard. However, Honda ruined the Si with the atrocious rev hang so I highly recommend staying far away from that car until Honda fixes it. If you want a standard Civic, stick with the LX. I wish I had. I bought an Si after the LX and I regretted it because of the rev hang. The LX doesn't have that issue and the car is way more fun to drive because of it. In my opinion, the LX is Honda's best standard transmission vehicle.
Not all newer standards have it. I had a 2018 LX Coupe that was a standard and there was no rev hang in that car and I currently drive a 2023 WRX and my WRX has no rev hang whatsoever. The only vehicles I've driven that had it are the Si's and a Jeep Wrangler.
These are such nice looking and feeling cars, but I could never bring myself To own one because of all of the shitty ricers that ruined this car’s name
skbuoy just would never consider it. I have a mustang and am more of a muscle guy. Every time I hear the word Honda or civic I just can’t help but cringe
J High did you just not read my comment at all? I said they are such nice vehicles, and I enjoy Matt’s videos as well so I clicked the video. I simply said that I like the newer civics, but can’t stand the reputation they have. Typically people read a comment before replying to it
Canadians had the sport touring 6sp since day 1- thanks Honda for offering loaded manuals in this day an age
Vic P
Canada seems to get the better trim and options compared to the United States.
Matt got the FIRST review on Civic Sport Touring Hatch 6MT. Thanks for the video!
Elon Y. Kim there’s been other reviews this trim has always been available in Canada since 2017
6:24 no one else posted so here you go.
Manual gang, gang!
Alex on autos acts like the civic is a sleeper...I’m glad to hear an honest opinion on its actual abilities.
Manual Transmission is a bloodclaat must!!!!
Drove this and the mazda3 hatch recently... I wanted to love the mazda but I didn't.
The Civic was significantly faster and handles better imo.
Civic cabin is lighter and visibility is way better... the mazda3 feel is dark and tight (which some people might like) with honestly bad visibility in the hatch
Also, the Civic has more cargo space and it's not the same ballpark... the mazda cargo space is tiny.
The mazda looks great and the interior design is nice.
Did you buy either one? And which one shifted gears better for you?
@@t.k.morris yeah got the 2019 civic hatch sport touring. It’s been great. I just got the CVT as it’s mainly commute driving (or it used to be at least). It’s a good CVT, I don’t even notice.
We really like our 2020 Civic Sport Sedan manual with the 6 speed manual and the K20C2 engine no turbo no GDI, Never had a problem with it so far 🇺🇸👍. But I did upgrade the headlights to Morimoto XB LED headlights and smoked taillights lights with the sequential turn signals and the sequential side markers.
Is it fun to drive? Somewhat quick for daily driving?
I have the 2021 sport touring - sonic gray pearl color. The car is amazing. Just wish the pedals are placed for heel-toe downshifting.
Only Corolla has auto rev match, Type R has it also but different price range.
Your shifting seems as quick as mine, but I think it's better to lift-off the gas a tad quicker. Not sure with other cars, but with the Genx Civic, making sure you get off the gas first doesn't slow you down and bonus reduction on pesky front-drive chirp. However, ugly rev hang is still there, something I don't experience with my 2.0L 6MT Sedan (I might have subconsciously adjusted to it, but it's definitely not as bad as that 1.5t).
That Touring Sedan did seem slower. It might be a weight thing, but I think it'd be at a disadvantage against my 2.0L 6MT that only wieghts 2770lb and accelerate to 5800 to 6800 rpm in a blink (lower gears). Another factor is brake-in..mine's at peek power with about 60k on the odo... Japanese port injection tend to take awhile before they start getting quick, while direct-inject needs tlc.
The 2.0 engine is direct injection as well it’s not port injection all of Honda’s engines are direct injection
@@argen809 2.0L k20C02 engine is an old school engine that was brought back by Honda. It used to be the RSX 2.0L but modernized. It's port injection and shares the same engine block as the Type-R. (whoever, type-r is direct injection). North America Formula 4 uses the same engine in their race cars. It might not have the Turbo boost as the 1.5T (which is direct injection) but it's a proven engine for race situations and like to hang-out at the redline. Most people are running it with a cvt transmission, but when you hook it up with 6MT, it has more personality.
I learned manual on a motorcycle lol. Than I just applied what I learned there to a car. Easy!!
I’ve never ridden a motorcycle but is it safe to assume I’ll apply the same technique? From car to bike?
@@ElNelsonMundo yep. The clutch is the left handle that looks like a bicycle brake and shifter is a little lever over your left foot. Down for 1st gear up for the rest. That is if you start in neutral
I mean...it's way way way easier on a motorcycle. At least the experiences I've had. Been driving my manual subaru for a year now and still struggle to be smooth quite often. Whereas I was smooth on the motorcycle basically the first time I ever tried.
very hard to find one in manual
Thanks for doing this review. I was wondering whether this car would be worth considering or not. I like loaded manuals.
Great review. Love your honest approach.
It’s fun to see people that have no idea what their talking about on TH-cam. My type r and 2020si will differ from every single thing you said.
*they're
I thought it was just me that dealt with the rev hang with that one LOL. It annoyed the crap out of me
you can disable rev hang with a tuner
These civics are easy to drive the manual with as low as 5 mils.
I'm thinking about going back to a honda car from driving trucks/suvs for a decade. This would be the exact spec and color i want
This is definitely faster than the Corolla hatchback or Mazda 3 hatchback in a straight line
The Honda 1.5 is hands down the best motor in the small displacement category . Has oil sprayers for the pistons and cylinder walls which cools and lubricates= Longevity. Has a patented design crosshatch pattern on the cylinder walls to reduce friction consequently heat= Longevity. Has a water cooled exhaust pre turbo for cooler operating = Longevity. Has injector ports slightly aimed at the intake valves to keep them clean of carbon = Longevity. List goes on. Its a motor designed for a turbo and GDI starting with block. The oil dilution is totally over blown. Some of the first motors in the northern states had some issues because people were starting their cars making short runs and they had no time to warm up. This in turn would not let the oil get hot enough to evaporate the extra fuel that gets dumped at start. Since these motors are designed to run cooler it takes more time to warm them up. To solve this issue one needs to change oil every 5000 miles during the winter instead of 7 or at least keep an eye on the dip stick once and awhile. Summers are no problem in fact these motors eat it up for the reasons listed. 99.9% of the people won't have a dilution issue with these motors because they get warmed up and Honda did a redesign of the programming -another reason not to buy new production models of an engine . If I lived there I'd put a plastic cover over my radiator like a diesel truck but on the inside during the winter months. If you want to spend a few extra bucks you can install the thermo operated vents to really dial it in.
Hell even Toyota needs to add an extra injector to the intake of their GDI motor to keep their intake valves clean which adds another level of complication and has only acquit cooling. Seems like an after thought solution to GDI carbon build up. Watch for a redesign.
If I was in the market for a compact car this year I'd by the Honda Hatch with the 6 spd but their CVT's are pretty solid and they have paddle shifters to play with. First, all the hatches are produced in 1 factory located in England( Serious quality control). Inside they have alot of room for the compact segment without being big outside. They handle great, (Mazda 3's have that old school torsion tube rear suspension and that compression timed spark motor) they have enough power to get you in trouble without going crazy and sacrificing durability, and they have a good price point for what your getting. Hell go thru Costco and save a few bucks because you will need to order a 6sp hatch and wait a few months. Fing resale is unbelievable. Just buy new and get the warranty along with having only 1 longshoremen's fart on the seat. Looks. If I bought one I'd by the Sport model and save my money for gas. Hell who needs a Vac-U-Jack or heated rear seats of the touring. Next I'd paint the black fake vents the same color as the body along with the spoilers. It really tones down the ricer look. I think the front is fine stock but I think the rear gets in your face and painting them does take it down a notch. Heck its a Honda they are coming up with 50 different inserts and some that really work. I really don't care that much because the mechanical's shine for a compact at this price point and because they designed the motor to take a turbo and GDI starting with the block and they are rolling with 300,000 no problem. Thats my take.
@@Tsalinger why is everyone complaining about the CVT
f181234 Yah because it has turbo, naturally aspirated engines are still better
@@Tsalinger Fantastic write up, thanks!
@@Tsalinger gas in to the oil dilution issues with honda
Which one do u prefer, Civic Touring Sport manual Hatchback or Accord Sport 2.0 manual????
Accord 2.0
I ONLY drive manual transmissions and I have to say it is so hard to find a manufacturer that doesnt ruin the experience with horrible rev hang. No wonder take rate of manual transmission is so low. They are taking all the fun out of it. Mazda in my opinion does it best. A mazda 3 or mx5 with manual is top notch
boost331 corolla hatch manual is great too
@@donaldzuramp4404 you trippin
@@shilohsigala485 not at all
My Elantra GT N Line has no rev hang. I don't think the base GT has any either--same gearbox. And it's a nice clutch and shifter.
@@MrTrashcan1 I have never tried those. I have driven a veloster N which definitely did have some pretty bad rev hang, but only between the 1-2 shift. I think a lot of people naturally shift at a slower speed and don't even realize they are dealing with rev hang. Most young drivers only have experience with 1 manual transmission and have nothing to compare to. Drive any porsche, mazda, hell even a BRZ and you will see what no rev hang is like.
This is a great car but minus the rattles. I have a 18 and the interior around the driver area rattles like nothing else. Dash, glove box, headliner, seats all rattles.
Tech Defender it’s the same for ours too
@@x1prodigy0x yeah I'm starting to get annoyed of it. Thinking of getting mazda3 or maybe even a Kia Stinger. Would you deal with all these rattles for the next 5 to 7 years?
as crazy as it sounds my 08 corolla has 0 rattles so I never really thought of that being an issue.
@@kalashnikov1343 not really crazy. Toyota and Hondas of old were built more solidly then they are now (I can say for honda at least) all these rattle want me to trade the car in since some literally sound like they are next to my ear so music doesn't fix it
@@A_guan yeah that's very disappointing especially on a new car. I've heard of paint issues too on new model Hondas. It's a shame. You could attempt to find the rattles and tighten things down or cram some foam blocks in the gaps. I think I'd attempt to fix it before I traded it in. Then again I don't know as my car doesn't rattle
Nice Review Matt 👍🏼
He listed a time of 7.5 for the Civic Turbo manual hatchback. That is exactly the same as the Corolla Manual hatchback. With slightly less weight and an extra 11hp /26 Torque I would have thought the Civic would be faster.
Jesse James some people have recorded in the 6 seconds range
f181234, thanks, good to hear. Really considering that manual sport hatch.
@Jesse GoVols With a tune and prl intake, my ex-l civic has 265 hp and 250tq. Goes 5.6 5-60 and 1/4mile in 13.7 at 102mph
Whoa 60fps. Keep up the good work!
Nice review. Do you know why they won’t make an SI Hatch?
The reason I've been given in the past is that the Hatches are built in the UK, and the Si is only built in Ontario. For some logistical reason, it's not possible to mix them.
Might be similar situation like the Accord 2.0T. The 2.0T Accord uses the same engine as the Type-R, but they can't just do a body swap to make an Accord Type-R. The Northern American made Accord uses a Japanese wiring harness, and it is not compatible with the German made sensors and ECU/computers.
This was mentioned in an interview with Hondata about how Honda *could* make, and revive the Accord Type-R.
Hatchbacks are made in the UK, and it might be a pain in the ass to make it work with the North American electronics, etc.
Why do we not get heated seats in America???
Whats the main difference between this and the type R? Is the type R just faster or what? They're both beautiful cars 😍😍
Yep, the Type R has a bunch of changes to make it faster and better handling!
I had a 2016 1.5t with a manual and the rev hang made it miserable to use. It made it where you either had to shift unrealistically slow, or shift at your regular speed and have it be jittery and lurchy. Also, the shifter gates felt like a Tonka plastic toy shifter.
Business Man dude just get an Audi R8 already
Rev hang is killing standard vehicles. I had a 2020 Si Coupe that has it bad and driving that car was horrible because of it. I couldn't stand how the car drove. I would rather get an automatic vehicle than have a standard vehicle with rev hang. I can't stand the rev hang. I traded the Si in a couple weeks ago and half the reason I traded it in is because of the rev hang.
Why don't they they just flat out make it an Si? I would buy that quick.
filegumbo because the hatch is meant for the Type R as a sports trim model
@@TheRandallSan Good point! It would be nice to have the middle ground of performance. I would love an Si hatch a bit cheaper than this model with a bit better performance and skip the leather, etc.
Because you'd be the only one buying it. Markets not there over all.
filegumbo same here!
Well thats 2. Lol
Intro with some specs, engine size, power torque, price.
0:02 that almost got me. Thought someone did an LS swap in a civic
Review a Honda Odyssey
Can you make a video, or explain why is it so much easier to drive manual in this car?
Well the thing about Honda & Toyota is the automakers are aware that many wanted to drive a manual because of what manual tends to do like if you don't release the clutch slowly or simultaneously hit the gas, the car can stall and in some cases it can jerk when your try to switch between 1st to 2nd or even 3rd in rare cases.
So what manufacturers have done is they have almost deleted the initial stall so even if you release it slowly or dump the clutch the car in most cases will not stall, rather it would kinda encourage you to now step on the accelerator pedal inorder to move forward (almost similar to what we see in automatic cars as in when we shift in to 'D' the car wouldn't stall or jerk but would kinda move forward).
Secondly they have also kinda addressed in deleting the jerkiness while shifting gears, so you can now pretty much shift the gears smoothly without much hassle and have a more relaxed and fun experience.
Great Review which they offer Sport Touring on the sedan model but it is nice.
Jerald Matthews the touring sedans have sport wheels and paddle shifters but no manual touring sedan
So which would you pick after driving both? Mazda3 manual or this civic?
I'd have to spend more time with the manual Mazda3 to say for sure, but from my first impression I'd lean towards the Mazda over this Civic, especially since they're basically the same price. If I was on a budget I'd probably save a few bucks and go for the Corolla Hatch.
Here we go is not ur,usual phrase its,more like shall we see
If they’d just fix the oil dilution problem ugh
Does it have a sunroof??
They still haven't fixed the rev hang
Beach5and that’s done on purpose for emissions
Quick ECU flash fixes that
Buy the LX. The LX has no rev hang. I had a 2018 LX Coupe and it had zero rev hang. I had an Si after the LX and I regretted getting rid of the LX for the Si so much because of how bad the rev hang is on the Si. I ended up getting rid of the Si and half of the reason I got rid of it is because of the rev hang. Rev hang made it absolutely horrible to drive.
No to turbo
I hate that they limit the colors to white, gray and black for the Touring Manual.
Why? Black is by far the best color for this car
@@rastradamus1074 when it is freshly washed. But it's hard to keep clean. Had a black 99 Si and you had to frequently wash to keep it looking good. Pollen in the spring was horrible and black also makes the car hotter in the summer.
@@subvet3668 yea i have a black 2018 SI. It's always dirty lol
Its litterally the same engine. Just turn up the boost and make a hatch si
yup just need flashpro to turn up the boost and push the redline to 7k
@@Eggsplanepls I'm talking more about on hondas end. You also need to swap in a lsd too.
The SI has beefier connecting rods,adaptive dampers and much better seats. Not to mention an lsd. I own one.
I thought it had a different turbo too
These still get the oil dilution problem?
Still prefer naturally aspirated engines.
Karl Bryant go for corolla then
For 29 grand u could have a lot more car in other brands.
As a daily commuter in an area with tons of traffic, driving manual isn’t ideal. I’d like an auto, but cvt is shit. They also have problems. Turbo isn’t good for long term either. Probably going to Toyota.
What do y’all prefer this or Honda Civic 2020 si
Hatchback
Honda ruined the 2020 Si with horrible rev hang so I'd stay away from the Si. I had a 2020 Si Coupe and the rev hang completely killed the experience for me. I got rid of the car a couple weeks ago and half the reason i got rid of it is because of the rev hang. Obviously, what you do is up to you but my suggestion is stay away from the Si until Honda fixes the rev hang issue in them. I had an LX before the Si and I'd go for the LX over the Si any day if I had to choose again because the LX has no rev hang.
U should test the bmw 550i v8 twin turbo, I would love that review please
Already did, here's the link: th-cam.com/video/67g0ldwzHZQ/w-d-xo.html
35-36 for a type R???? More like 55-65
Video is 4 years old, so he is not talking about the current type r. Maybe this is before the pandemic raised prices.
Does 2016 civic lx or ex come with manual stick shift
The LX does and I'm pretty sure the EX does as well. I know the LX does for sure though as I had an LX that was a standard.
@@riley1733 Its hard to find LX or EX stick shift on 2016 & 2017 but it easy to find on Turbo engine or SI
@maychieus It's hard to find a standard in any vehicle these days. I got lucky to find an LX that was a standard. As for the Si, the Si's only come in standard. However, Honda ruined the Si with the atrocious rev hang so I highly recommend staying far away from that car until Honda fixes it. If you want a standard Civic, stick with the LX. I wish I had. I bought an Si after the LX and I regretted it because of the rev hang. The LX doesn't have that issue and the car is way more fun to drive because of it. In my opinion, the LX is Honda's best standard transmission vehicle.
@@riley1733 thanks for your informations 👍
Rev hang sucks, all new manuals are guilty of it. Emissions Regs.
Not all newer standards have it. I had a 2018 LX Coupe that was a standard and there was no rev hang in that car and I currently drive a 2023 WRX and my WRX has no rev hang whatsoever. The only vehicles I've driven that had it are the Si's and a Jeep Wrangler.
@@riley1733 Interesting.
Si hands down
They dont make an Si at the moment.
Quick Drive: Manual 2020 Honda Civic Sport Touring Hatch
$29K......LOL That's definitely the wrong Civic to get.
It has 6 more hp than before ?
Robert Graham same hp. Sport trims always have 6hp more than other trims
I thought it was just si
I know the sport touring hatchback had more b cause of owning it ,I just put on wind deflectors and 15 percent tint on windows so it feels 5hp faster
Not big on Honda's but whatever happened to the civics that revved really high
james4v Honda doesn't give a fuck anymore, they would rather sell these overpriced cars to Indian students.
And what happened to reliable Honda’s?
8th gen was the last of its breed. 9th gen is subpar just has more torgue and nicer interior. 10th gen is where they lost me.
because its all about them turbo engines now
thank you EU emissions laws and displacement taxes
H Mills nah it’s just turbos are better for Performance and fuel efficiency right now than NA
The Honda Civic/SI they are starting to look very DATED!!!
Mike J Autos and stuff dated? it came out in 2017
U should do a review in the cobalt ss turbo
These are such nice looking and feeling cars, but I could never bring myself
To own one because of all of the shitty ricers that ruined this car’s name
skbuoy just would never consider it. I have a mustang and am more of a muscle guy. Every time I hear the word Honda or civic I just can’t help but cringe
@@wolfovodin7193
But yet you clicked on a Honda Civic review, despite its cringe inducing subject matter?🤔🤔
@@JulezWinnfield Nothing wrong being curious.
J High did you just not read my comment at all? I said they are such nice vehicles, and I enjoy Matt’s videos as well so I clicked the video. I simply said that I like the newer civics, but can’t stand the reputation they have. Typically people read a comment before replying to it
@@wolfovodin7193
I thoroughly digested your comment.
👍🏾😁😍🧡😇👀
Offer an automatic in the type r
Hell No
Absolutely terrible shifting, its amazing how many of these car reviewers cant shift well.
How are the leather seats? Do they seem like they will hold up?
I bought a used 2016 Civic Touring sedan last year and the whole interior (leather seat, dashboard, etc.) still looks great.
if you are worried about leather not holding up get some leather soap and hydrate it once in a while.
@@kalashnikov1343 yeah clean with leather designated cleaner and then condition a couple coats they'll stay fresh forever