As talented as KD is (and his talent is definitely generational), he's not worth the headache at this point in his career, let alone the fact that he hasn't played a full season in several years due to injury.
to be specific you cant say that cause one of the reason nets would be good is with kd and if nets want a legacy they have to dp what kd ask look when kd left in okc legacy was over and theres no team that wan there future for 4 years to be broken
If i would have to lead a team KD would be the last guy i would pick. He is not taking responsibility. Always blames others. Ohh, lebron does that too...
@@cainedelacruz5922 doesn’t matter. Rebuild and get a package for kd. Kd is not a leader and will never be. He is a bus rider and will always be. Kyrie is also a bus rider as well. Trade both of them, get a great package and rebuild. All this headache and drama is not worth it just to lose in the first round and kd had his worst playoffs performance yet last year. Hes very talented but he is a bitch and bitches get kicked to the curb.
if i’m the nets i wouldn’t care about being a lottery team again. stand up for yourself and put your foot down, can’t let these players walk all over you
Agreed, can't be saying that they need to keep KD to win a championship, when has he ever won other than the time he joined a 73-9 team? What excuses did he have this year to get bounced out in the first round? Milwaukee will be healthy next year, Boston will improve next year. I'd play hard to get the most value for KD and rebuild, Brooklyn is not the OKC, they are based in New York, they will still be able to attract other talents in the future.
What is the guarantee that even if they fire GM and coach then KD doesn't demand a trade again near deadline if they're in the middle of the table best case?There is none. He asked out after 1 year of new deal because his own decisions were shit. And I also don't agree that you have to keep him. OKC that you claim "was shit" did better in the playoffs for the next four years than the Nets WITH KD this year. Even though he left for nothing in free agency. And the Warriors, which he left on a trade, are doing great and no one can deny that. "But it was a different situation" some may say - to which I respond that if it depends on situation, then you don't keep him at all cost.
KD already screwed the Nets future with the rest of his ideas, and now you're not gonna get much back for him. So Joe Tsai should send a message to the players. Keep KD through his contract and let KD choose to waste the next 3-4 years of his career by not trying. That will hurt KD WAY more than the Nets. KD's got 4-5 years of good basketball left in him. The Nets don't have that timer.
On me, and tbh 4-5 years of good basketball is being pretty generous imo. I’d give him 2, maybe 3 more years of good basketball before he starts to really decline
Exactly what I would do. Good man. "It's not about money, it's about sending a message." "This city deserves a better class of team owner, and I'm going to give it to them." -Joe Tsai 2022
I will forever despise KD And Kyrie For Ruining A Great Team In The 2018-2019 Brooklyn Nets.They Had So Much Potential But Now KD And Kyrie Had To Ruin The Fun.
I’ve hated them both since burner KD and conspiracy theorist Kyrie, but same. I hope both of them end up in China next year (yes I know that’s never gonna happen I’m just saying)
Oh yea cause d’Angelo Russell has been a negative impact on every team he’s been on. They were a fun team but there was no championship potential on that team
Joe cares about his ego more than winning, if it was about “a team to be proud of” then he wouldn’t have given the ok on a trade that got rid of all their young talent that made their team a free agency destination for someone who was literally in the process of quitting out of Houston. Nah he just doesn’t want to look like a chump
Very bad take my man, letting Durant go is the correct decision. You think that giving him what he wants is going to keep him there or they inmediately win a chip? No. F' no. The Nets are not a team and it's all because of KD.
@@octoxicbeballin They need Jaylen Brown immediately. Only 25, could make them a little competitive. So the picks to Houston are not lottery. I would say try to get Jaylen Brown, Marcus Smart, Daniel Theis or two picks. At some point, Nets have to consider a deal.
I disagree, they ain't winning a championship, KD is great but he never won other then by joining a 73-9 team and they are not even close to be in OKC's situation, the Nets are based in Brooklyn, they will always be able to attract talent as long as they have a healthy culture, having a good culture is what attracted KD and Kyrie to choose them over the Knicks in the first place. Don't fire the GM and the coach, if KD doesn't want to play, fine, let him waste his final years, he ain't doing that, he's gonna play, you run it one more year with Kyrie (because if they don't win with Kyrie they certainly won't win without him) and trade KD next off-season.
as a nets fan, I must say that I disagree with the idea of firing marks right now in accordance with KD's will. Because if every gm interested in the position knows that they are one moody superstar away from being fired, they will struggle to get someone of merit for the position, not just right now, but in the future. marks got this team out of a hole once, he can do it again. a lot of the bad moves from the past few years were only made because of pressure from kd and kyrie. ik you said that coaches and GMs are common, but quality ones are not. marks is a good gm, and imo firing him would be the real death of the organization. it wouldn't be easy to find someone else nearly as good, and imo the nets aren't any type of contender right now anyway with KD unless they get a veteran big man to deal with Giannis and the other bigs in the east. nic claxton and dayron sharpe aint gonna cut it.
Exactly this dude is overacting and over dramatic This franchise won't die They can rebuild and retool Kd ain't guaranteeing no ring In the long run this will be ok But giving what Durant wants will make this franchise a laughing stock forever
mate thats the truth, KD may be generational talent but I don't think he can contribute on both ends of the floor after 2 seasons, As great as Lebron is, he is masking some the age related problem with his athleticism & huge presence of mind. KD will shoot mid range Jumper for his life like Carmelo but he will be picked by quicker guards & stronger wing players on his defense. I am really enticed by Jaylen Brown. Jaylen Brown plus Ben Simmons will be the best wing defending Combos after PG13 & Kawahi. Mike Conely & Bogdan is in the trade market, I would do a trade kyrie taking for Bogdon & Conley & lakers 1st round pick . Starting 5 Mike Conley Seth Curry Jaylen Brown Bogdon Ben Simmons Bench TJ Warren Royce O'Neale Robert Williams Cam Thomas Derrick white Plus you get Three 1st round pick from Boston, one 1st round pick from Lakers. I will take this team over Whatever team you can build around KD. But Sean Marks is great GM he will build a better team than this.
Best part about this toxicity is that it lowers Kevin's trade value. Doubt any other GM, especially ones of the current powerhouse teams of the league, want anything to do with a player like this, no matter how talented he is.
well, if he really landed in Miami Pat Spo Jimmy and UD would take care of that part, if there is a team where antics like these aint gonna fly, its Miami. Basically one of the few teams able to manage talent this big without getting all the negatives that go along with it
@@Yashiro205 he will try but he simply doesn't have the assets. I look at the Heat assets and it is laughable. The Heat have the worse player assets. Even bad teams can offer more than the Heat. Beyond Hero and picks what do the Heat have to offer? Lowry is washed and Robinson is a liability rather than an asset. I am not insulting the Heat but they have terrible player assets. I could name over a dozen teams with better assets. The Nets have probably already turned down better packages than the Heat could offer.
Sooo glad you said it, what people don't understand is that this league, this association, this game belongs ot the players, they determine everything, without them the owners have nothing!
It's really an unwinnable situation in my opinion. If Durant gets traded, he gets his way. If the nets fire nash and marks, he gets his way. Either way the nets will have to capitulate in some way and it'll only encourage more of this sort of behavior by players moving forward
As a nets fan, great video. You said everything that I’ve been feeling about this entire situation. So glad you mentioned what Sean marks and Kenny Atkinson did for the franchise before KD and Kyrie got there. Hopefully the words “the pairing” means we can get rid of just Steve and not Sean, but if it’s both or KD then I guess both have to go. Joe Tsai needs to sit KD down and say: “hey, we’ll do this but from now on you need to trust us. Steve was your guy. You need to trust our decisions and believe we’re doing what’s best for the team.”
You’re as soft as KD. Bunch of bitches. Mark’s and Nash have done way more than either KD or Kyrie and you guys aren’t gonna win a chip anyway. It’s high key pathetic of y’all to switch up like that!
You know Casey, your opening delivery is great but when you said that KD's demands must prevail, I disagree with it! I would like to see KD being the laughing stock of the NBA for being a Diva! For wanting to elevate his stature as to what Steph, Klay & Dray is during his tenure in the Warriors.
I usually like your videos, but this one makes no sense. How can you say a player like KD only comes along once every 50 years? Both Jordan and Kobe were better at doing what KD does. Also, what makes you so sure KD makes a team a title contender? He didn't win in Brooklyn. He didn't win in OKC. He only won in Golden State, a team that already had a ring. You're overrating his positive impact on a team.
He meant to say that KD is a generational talent, meaning one of the best players of his generation. And tbh if you don't agree with that, you don't understand basketball. No matter how much of a jerk you think he might be, you gotta know by now the dude is an absolute superstar in the league. Also, the teams called "title contenders" aren't necessarily automatic NBA champions, I hope you know that.
@@user-vk6ix2yx5v having great stats doesn't mean a sh*t. If KD couldn't win with westbrook, harden, kyrie... maybe he isn't that great. Maybe his behavior is kinda toxic ? Maybe that makes him worth a lot less ?
@@valuxlevelux5618 even Lebron fanboy Nic Wright has KD rated 13th greatest player to ever play the game. He is simply one of the most talented players in history. Doesn't matter if you like him or not he simply is one of the greats. He isn't the best leader or the most accomplished but his game and skills say he is one of the greats.
Lol he isnt steph curry but he and lebron are still very generational talents like curry, no 7 footer could shoot move and dribble like KD, no one could ever shoot like Curry and no one can be as an all around player like Lebron. Those 3 are generational talents. The difference is he is like Lebron, cannot win without a superteam. Curry is the least talented in those 3 but he won the most, losing like Lebron and KD did do not diminish your value like you are saying since Lebron is still in the goat convo despite winning only 4 in 19 seasons while Curry won 4 in 13. Not winning without a superteam should not be a knock on KD if youre not using it on lebron, just saying.
KD not taking responsibility for his decisions, sadly proves even with his generational talent, KD is not a leader that can take you to a chip. Bro learned nothing when he was at GSW. Says a lot.
I understand players wanting specific coaches or GMs that fit their style. I understand players wanting to play with their friends on super teams, even if I don't support it. That said, I'm so sick of KD's antics.
KD asked for Nash and at the end of the season said he's still the right coach. lmao. Yeah I can't support KD anymore, he's a 🤡. Warriors winning the finals have broke him.
Majority of nets fans actually follow the team and the incompetency of Nash, front office and ownership. We realize that casual fans that don’t actually watch nets games don’t understand how bad these guys are. Nash can’t make basic adjustments in a playoff series, marks allows Bruce to WALK without even making an offer after already letting Jeff green leave the previous year. The media will have you believe that Kd is the owner gm and coach when in reality he was the only constant for the last 2 years. Unfounded rumors and anonymous sources can pick away at the man’s reputation but he can’t respond or he’s petty and sensitive. He played as much ball as possible coming off an Achilles and other injuries that ppl claimed would make him a shell of himself. He played his ass off against Giannis and got clowned for nearly beating the best team in basketball by himself. He gets clowned for leaving golden state after his own teammate and the bat media tell him to leave. He literally can’t do anything without being bashed by everyone. Easy target, let’s dump it all on him because he’s supposed to be the number one guy
I gotta go the other way, the only reason KD wants Marks gone is that Marks took back his team from the dysfunction and KD wants it back. Also, with almost every team powering up in free agency, how sure are we that KD and Kyrie will get a championship
Just by logic Marks cant be a good GM. He signed KD and Kyrie which flopped. Then he shipped all talent away to sign Harden for a short deal, which we all knew was not going to work out because of 3 divas, then they got rid of Harden when Kyrie was proven to be a liability because he's insane and often isnt in the mood to play ball. And dont gimme that BS about KD orchestrating all that. If that were the case then, and one player ruins a franchise, what is the GM doing? Not his job for sure!
Man no. I think you are wrong. As important as is to find a generational talent like kd, it's also extremely important to have a sustainable franchise, good front office and respectable coach. We can see every year generational talents fail (sixers and embiid, lakers and lebron, kd and the nets, kawhi and the clippers etc) in comparison to generational talents win with good front offices. Like steph and the warriors, like giannis and the bucks, like kawhi with the raptors. I think you are seeing only the superstar and forget the bigger picture that is needed to win an NBA championship. Without a good owner, a nice supporting cast, a smart GM and a good nba coach, superstars can't win on they own.
If I were Joe Tsai, the limit of giving in I would do is firing Nash for a better coach. Marks stays because he is good at his job and he is likely to be there for a long time after the rest of this roster goes. If one parses Durant’s demand, it can be argued that he doesn’t want the combo of Nash and Marks next season. Replacing Nash but keeping Marks meets the demand based on how it is phrased. Durant gets a tiny win to assuage his bruised ego while the Nets jettison a coach who had no business having the job other than Durant and Kyrie pushing for it.
At this point they are keeping Nash just to prove a point. I don't think anyone in their right mind believes that Nash can coach worth a damn, but they are going to keep him just to spite KD and restore some of the credibility they have lost over the past few years. If they keep bending over and firing coaches just because one player demands it, then no reputable coach will ever want to sign for then in the future and contrary to what Kyrie thinks, they do need a good coach.
A new video on Tuesday? I was confused! I had to check my watch for the day. KD has got all the talent in the world, but he doesn't have what it takes to lead ... he's too petty. (Yes, that was a Steph reference)! You can't demand a trade and then turnaround and demand your current team fire the coach and GM.
To be fair KD IS RIGHT. Steve mash isn’t a championship coach have patty mills run baseline and swing it to KD for an iso all game with the occasional apsss to kyrie ISNT a championship winning formula
If Joe Tsai has any skill at 4D chess, he has probably already given Sean Marks the unenviable task of firing Steve Nash in such a way that it gives Marks more time to repair his relationship with Kevin Durant. Tsai can't be seen as caving in so soon, so Marks must be the hatchet man, which is in his job description, anyway. Like Casey correctly implies, there is no way KD is showing up to training camp if Nash is still the coach. If Marks miraculously finds a coach the entire team can be excited about, KD and Kyrie just might buy in. But if you see NOTHING happen from the Brooklyn front office in the next 10 days, I guarantee Joe Tsai moves on this. Sean and Steve are toast, and should start sending out résumés to prospective employers. 💁🏻♂️🏀📜
Come on KD. Everyone knew Nash was your puppet. You wanted hero ball, he gave you hero ball. He wasn't a great coach, but he did what you wanted. Nash as a player was one of the most unselfish guy to ever play in the NBA. There's no way he won't think of something that ACTUALLY involves the whole team smh.
What is Nash's excuse for losing 12 games in a row without KD? If KD forced the non structure on the Nets then why couldn't Nash do anything when KD wasn't there? Why were the Nets blowing teams out the previous season when they had Udoka and Dantoni but struggled all season without them? Why did Nash only win games with KD playing over 40 minutes every night? Nash has no offensive or defensive schemes and that's on him. If Nash had these great schemes but was prevented from implementing them why did he lose 12 in a row without KD?
i think they still need to replace steve nash, his choices have been poor and if the nets have gotten to the playoffs it's been because of KD, not nash
People for this don’t understand how business works. You don’t change your management team for an employee no matter how much of a superstar that employee is. It is the management team you need to stand by if they haven’t done anything wrong. This is a corporation at the end of the day and if they fire someone from management for no reason other then an employee wanting them out then future managers, coaches etc will think twice before doing business with you and joining the company.
Tired of hearing about 1 or 2 players being able to hold a team hostage for whatever they want. If I'm the Nets I keep Durant and put him and Kyrie on the new 'Play-for-pay' contract.
@am hoops i believe it was KD's way of killing any talk of him coming back and the nets rolling it back with KD and Kyrie. By publicly announcing what he said to Tsai, he is telling the nets he wants out, to force a trade out before the season starts. I guess its Kd's way of putting the nets into a corner and telling them he doesnt want to play in brooklyn. tough spot for knicks cuz it lowers his value even more. Basically its Celtics if they offer Jalen Brown, or the Raptors.
Casey, if you think Steve Nash should fired to let KD run his show, then I think if a hypothetical Vancouver team comes in, I would think Nash would be a slam dunk choice for that team as HC. Tough situation for Sean Marks and Steve Nash in Brooklyn.
Rumors say that Kyrie wanted Phil handy to be the coach while KD wanted Ty Lou to be the coach but they got Steve Nash instead. I don’t think they wanted Nash as a coach. Especially if KD and Kyrie both hate him.
If I was the owner Kyrie and KD would be a NET until their contracts are up period. No more giving to either one of them. Either they play in NJ or they forfeit some money and ruin their own careers!!!
As a New York Knicks fan for centuries, I couldn't care less what Kevin Durant does, because he and Kyrie Irving disrespected my New York Knicks. I hope the Nets franchises go into a tailspin for the next 50 years 👍🏽 🙂 😆 😅 🤣
Total nonsense. Do you understand the game? The Nets were injured and he was surrounded by undersized guards that couldn't defend or defenders that couldn't shoot. It isn't his fault the playoff roster was garbage. The Nets traded their depth for Harden and traded Harden for a guy that didn't play a single minute and then they didn't get a minute from their 4th highest paid player as well. You are totally clueless. Seriously the Nets were injured and the injuries weren't to the end of the roster guys but player 3 and 4.
NETS SHOULD GIVE IN: TO WIN A TITLE YOU NEED A MVP CALIBER PLAYER, KD IS AN MVP CALIBER PLAYER(THERE'S LESS THAN 10 IN THE WHO LEAGUE:STEPH,LUKA,KA2HI,KD,BRON,GANNIS, BIG JOJO AND JOKER) IF YOU DON'T HAVE ONE OF THOSE YOU STAND NO CHANCE, YOU CAN FIRE NASH AND SIGN D'ANTONI AND THE PURPOSE OF A GM IS TO GET A MVP CALIBER PLAYER IN THE FIRST PLACE, THEY ALREADY GOT KD
Casey done gone lost his mind. Someone call an ambulance, he needs help. In what world does KD become GM, coach and star player after the years he has shafted the Nets with already??? You would think the low trade offers would clue some people in but apparently not. Casey still thinks Bam or Scottie will be swapped for KD!!! Dude that has NEVER been on the table and most certainly will NEVER be done...because KD's value is NOT generational anymore. His value is 'DIVA' who gets injured and is on a max 4 year deal that some team is going to swallow hard on.
very bad take, both coach and GM are bad and need to be fired eventually, but first he needs to get rid of KD no coach or GM with self respect will take a job if you fire them for KD
Saying a guy like KD only comes around once every 50 years...come on. That’s like saying a guy like KD has only come around twice since beginning of the NBA. Jordan, Kobe, Lebron, Curry that’s roughly 10 years a piece. As good as KD is he’s just not that guy cuz he ain’t no leader! Your statement is something Skip Bayless would say LOL
KD's basically came to to Brooklyn just to destroy the Nets from inside out, Got Atkinson fired, Got rid of their deep role players and all star Jarrett Allen's and a haul of picks. Giving them thought situation now about Simmons and choosing between him and Gm seasn marks and the Head coach that he handpicked. Like Stephen a smith once said about Phil Jackson "Get this man out of New York" Im losing KD's respect day by day ever since he left my warriors just because he's too sensitive about the media
Also Im choosing the gm and head coach over Durant, Durant's not winning the nets anything with the craziness he's bringing and without Shawn marks you would even have a good roster
Let’s be clear. KD said he doesn’t like the direction of the team because he wants to be traded but unsuccessful. That’s the main reason why. If Sean Mark and Nash were fired, KD would still force to be traded.
While i disagree, your take makes perfect sense. Maybe no one in nets org wants to keep kd at this point. But realistically, they have to choose kd over marks and nash if they want to win immediately.
I don’t think anyone has an issue with KD’s demands, it’s the inclusion of Sean Marks that’s ridiculous. The man is good at his job. He gets things done, it’s the players that can’t get it done.
I would love for Joe to start doing the petty billionaire moves he can afford to do. Just go nah. Stop trying to trade him and if he sits, let him sit out for 4 years. Only accept teams gutting the roster.
Sean Marks helped them rebuild from a horrible situation before. If they don't fire him, he could do it for the Nets again even after KD is gone. How much longer is KD's prime? Like 1 or 2 more years? I would keep Marks. Nets are gonna have to blow it up sooner or later anyway.
The point of keeping KD should be looked at from a business angle, where he's generating profits for the Nets, not necessarily a championship. In this sense, Joe Tsai maybe forced to give in to his demands. They've made conscious choices of getting super stars onto the team and gutted all future assets for the win now / profit now mode. All they need to do is to keep the average fans in NY area happy and keep buying stuff and coming to games and get the revenue. They don't need to build team culture as not enough fans appreciate that.
I get your point man but I disagree. Outside of enabling KDs toxic behavior, bringing back KD isn’t gonna win Brooklyn a title bc atp in his career he’s injury prone and hasn’t proven that he can lead a team while healthy to the finals since 2012. KD and Kyrie aren’t the recipe for a championships as the focal points of an offense bc they literally proved they can’t do it. They’re both proven GOAT tier supporting championship pieces but look what just happened this past postseason when they’re matched up against an actual good team in the Celtics🤷🏾♂️
KD only won on the Warriors. Kyrie only won with Lebron. Both are worse now, and bring more baggage. And the Nets aren't the Warriors. KD isn't Lebron. Even Lebron isn't winning anymore. The Nets aren't winning a Chip with KD or without him, so why let him call the shots?
@@shorewall although I’ll say that KD and Kyrie aren’t necessarily worse than they were w/ they’re previous teams, I agree. The baggage is too much for them and that’s definitely tanked their value. Unless they’re each playing with another top 10 player in the league as the sidekick, I don’t see either of them winning a ring again
If KD is the best or second best player in the league why he doesn’t win titles? While Curry won with a 50% Klay, a pasted his prime Green, and no bench depth. Giannis won with the Bucks, Lebron won everywhere he went to, so to me it’s disrespectful to say KD even belongs in that conversation.
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As talented as KD is (and his talent is definitely generational), he's not worth the headache at this point in his career, let alone the fact that he hasn't played a full season in several years due to injury.
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to be specific you cant say that cause one of the reason nets would be good is with kd and if nets want a legacy they have to dp what kd ask look when kd left in okc legacy was over and theres no team that wan there future for 4 years to be broken
generational diva
If i would have to lead a team KD would be the last guy i would pick. He is not taking responsibility. Always blames others. Ohh, lebron does that too...
@@cainedelacruz5922 doesn’t matter. Rebuild and get a package for kd. Kd is not a leader and will never be. He is a bus rider and will always be. Kyrie is also a bus rider as well. Trade both of them, get a great package and rebuild. All this headache and drama is not worth it just to lose in the first round and kd had his worst playoffs performance yet last year. Hes very talented but he is a bitch and bitches get kicked to the curb.
if i’m the nets i wouldn’t care about being a lottery team again. stand up for yourself and put your foot down, can’t let these players walk all over you
Agreed, can't be saying that they need to keep KD to win a championship, when has he ever won other than the time he joined a 73-9 team? What excuses did he have this year to get bounced out in the first round? Milwaukee will be healthy next year, Boston will improve next year.
I'd play hard to get the most value for KD and rebuild, Brooklyn is not the OKC, they are based in New York, they will still be able to attract other talents in the future.
We don’t have any picks
Kevin ain't gonna waste the rest of his career sitting.
Agreed, they are gonna have to make an example out of Kd
They won’t be a Lottery team the rockets have all their picks
What is the guarantee that even if they fire GM and coach then KD doesn't demand a trade again near deadline if they're in the middle of the table best case?There is none. He asked out after 1 year of new deal because his own decisions were shit.
And I also don't agree that you have to keep him. OKC that you claim "was shit" did better in the playoffs for the next four years than the Nets WITH KD this year. Even though he left for nothing in free agency. And the Warriors, which he left on a trade, are doing great and no one can deny that. "But it was a different situation" some may say - to which I respond that if it depends on situation, then you don't keep him at all cost.
Front office shouldn’t entertain any trade conversations or demands. The nets should get their 4 years worth
KD already screwed the Nets future with the rest of his ideas, and now you're not gonna get much back for him. So Joe Tsai should send a message to the players. Keep KD through his contract and let KD choose to waste the next 3-4 years of his career by not trying. That will hurt KD WAY more than the Nets. KD's got 4-5 years of good basketball left in him. The Nets don't have that timer.
On me, and tbh 4-5 years of good basketball is being pretty generous imo. I’d give him 2, maybe 3 more years of good basketball before he starts to really decline
And then never get another big time FA
@@buttkicker900 And? Big time FAs aren’t guaranteed for most teams in the NBA especially if you’re not LA, Miami, maybe Chicago, and the Celtics.
@@ijustmightsaysomething f it hold him hostage then
Exactly what I would do. Good man. "It's not about money, it's about sending a message." "This city deserves a better class of team owner, and I'm going to give it to them." -Joe Tsai 2022
I will forever despise KD And Kyrie For Ruining A Great Team In The 2018-2019
Brooklyn Nets.They Had So Much Potential But Now KD And Kyrie Had To Ruin The Fun.
Agreed.
I’ve hated them both since burner KD and conspiracy theorist Kyrie, but same. I hope both of them end up in China next year (yes I know that’s never gonna happen I’m just saying)
Oh yea cause d’Angelo Russell has been a negative impact on every team he’s been on. They were a fun team but there was no championship potential on that team
@@dongreene7235 they were second round exit at best . Most likely 1st
Not to mention, they were probably the most fun team to watch for a couple years.
It’s really childish of KD but props for Tsai for sticking to his guns for not letting another grown man punk him 🤷🏿♂️
Joe cares about his ego more than winning, if it was about “a team to be proud of” then he wouldn’t have given the ok on a trade that got rid of all their young talent that made their team a free agency destination for someone who was literally in the process of quitting out of Houston. Nah he just doesn’t want to look like a chump
Ok
If Joe Tsai means that then the Nets shouldn’t trade KD because trading their best player is not in the best interest of the Brooklyn Nets.
Very bad take my man, letting Durant go is the correct decision. You think that giving him what he wants is going to keep him there or they inmediately win a chip? No. F' no. The Nets are not a team and it's all because of KD.
Exactly they need a guy like Jaylen Brown to save the dying team. KD is only someone that’ll bring drama
@@octoxicbeballin They need Jaylen Brown immediately. Only 25, could make them a little competitive. So the picks to Houston are not lottery. I would say try to get Jaylen Brown, Marcus Smart, Daniel Theis or two picks. At some point, Nets have to consider a deal.
@@ansonthomas5804 exactly
I disagree, they ain't winning a championship, KD is great but he never won other then by joining a 73-9 team and they are not even close to be in OKC's situation, the Nets are based in Brooklyn, they will always be able to attract talent as long as they have a healthy culture, having a good culture is what attracted KD and Kyrie to choose them over the Knicks in the first place.
Don't fire the GM and the coach, if KD doesn't want to play, fine, let him waste his final years, he ain't doing that, he's gonna play, you run it one more year with Kyrie (because if they don't win with Kyrie they certainly won't win without him) and trade KD next off-season.
as a nets fan, I must say that I disagree with the idea of firing marks right now in accordance with KD's will. Because if every gm interested in the position knows that they are one moody superstar away from being fired, they will struggle to get someone of merit for the position, not just right now, but in the future. marks got this team out of a hole once, he can do it again. a lot of the bad moves from the past few years were only made because of pressure from kd and kyrie. ik you said that coaches and GMs are common, but quality ones are not. marks is a good gm, and imo firing him would be the real death of the organization. it wouldn't be easy to find someone else nearly as good, and imo the nets aren't any type of contender right now anyway with KD unless they get a veteran big man to deal with Giannis and the other bigs in the east. nic claxton and dayron sharpe aint gonna cut it.
Exactly this dude is overacting and over dramatic
This franchise won't die
They can rebuild and retool
Kd ain't guaranteeing no ring
In the long run this will be ok
But giving what Durant wants will make this franchise a laughing stock forever
mate thats the truth, KD may be generational talent but I don't think he can contribute on both ends of the floor after 2 seasons, As great as Lebron is, he is masking some the age related problem with his athleticism & huge presence of mind. KD will shoot mid range Jumper for his life like Carmelo but he will be picked by quicker guards & stronger wing players on his defense. I am really enticed by Jaylen Brown. Jaylen Brown plus Ben Simmons will be the best wing defending Combos after PG13 & Kawahi.
Mike Conely & Bogdan is in the trade market, I would do a trade kyrie taking for Bogdon & Conley & lakers 1st round pick .
Starting 5
Mike Conley
Seth Curry
Jaylen Brown
Bogdon
Ben Simmons
Bench
TJ Warren
Royce O'Neale
Robert Williams
Cam Thomas
Derrick white Plus you get Three 1st round pick from Boston, one 1st round pick from Lakers. I will take this team over Whatever team you can build around KD. But Sean Marks is great GM he will build a better team than this.
perfect timing i just finished a different video 😂
Best part about this toxicity is that it lowers Kevin's trade value. Doubt any other GM, especially ones of the current powerhouse teams of the league, want anything to do with a player like this, no matter how talented he is.
well, if he really landed in Miami Pat Spo Jimmy and UD would take care of that part, if there is a team where antics like these aint gonna fly, its Miami. Basically one of the few teams able to manage talent this big without getting all the negatives that go along with it
@@weedhigh2564 the Heat don't have the assets to get any star. You aren't in the running.
@@almac9203 true but you know pat will do whatever is takes to get KD without trading Jimmy and Bam
@@Yashiro205 he will try but he simply doesn't have the assets. I look at the Heat assets and it is laughable. The Heat have the worse player assets. Even bad teams can offer more than the Heat. Beyond Hero and picks what do the Heat have to offer? Lowry is washed and Robinson is a liability rather than an asset. I am not insulting the Heat but they have terrible player assets. I could name over a dozen teams with better assets. The Nets have probably already turned down better packages than the Heat could offer.
@@almac9203 true
KD really going out bad right now.
Sooo glad you said it, what people don't understand is that this league, this association, this game belongs ot the players, they determine everything, without them the owners have nothing!
It's really an unwinnable situation in my opinion. If Durant gets traded, he gets his way. If the nets fire nash and marks, he gets his way. Either way the nets will have to capitulate in some way and it'll only encourage more of this sort of behavior by players moving forward
lol do neither its not that hard
Ian it’s called
Do nothing . Make him stay . Doesn’t play ? Don’t pay . Simple
They should trade him to the worst team in the league for acting like a child that’s what I’d do
I think this really just puts enough gas on the fire that next CBA the owners will demand some reform and this LeGM era will end as we know it today.
As a nets fan, great video. You said everything that I’ve been feeling about this entire situation. So glad you mentioned what Sean marks and Kenny Atkinson did for the franchise before KD and Kyrie got there. Hopefully the words “the pairing” means we can get rid of just Steve and not Sean, but if it’s both or KD then I guess both have to go. Joe Tsai needs to sit KD down and say: “hey, we’ll do this but from now on you need to trust us. Steve was your guy. You need to trust our decisions and believe we’re doing what’s best for the team.”
You’re as soft as KD. Bunch of bitches. Mark’s and Nash have done way more than either KD or Kyrie and you guys aren’t gonna win a chip anyway. It’s high key pathetic of y’all to switch up like that!
You know Casey, your opening delivery is great but when you said that KD's demands must prevail, I disagree with it! I would like to see KD being the laughing stock of the NBA for being a Diva! For wanting to elevate his stature as to what Steph, Klay & Dray is during his tenure in the Warriors.
KD just the perfect example of
NEVER LET PLAYER DO WHAT THEY WANT EVER AGAIN
I wish someone could send his videos to their teams. It would help out so much.
I usually like your videos, but this one makes no sense. How can you say a player like KD only comes along once every 50 years? Both Jordan and Kobe were better at doing what KD does. Also, what makes you so sure KD makes a team a title contender? He didn't win in Brooklyn. He didn't win in OKC. He only won in Golden State, a team that already had a ring. You're overrating his positive impact on a team.
He meant to say that KD is a generational talent, meaning one of the best players of his generation. And tbh if you don't agree with that, you don't understand basketball. No matter how much of a jerk you think he might be, you gotta know by now the dude is an absolute superstar in the league.
Also, the teams called "title contenders" aren't necessarily automatic NBA champions, I hope you know that.
@@user-vk6ix2yx5v having great stats doesn't mean a sh*t.
If KD couldn't win with westbrook, harden, kyrie... maybe he isn't that great.
Maybe his behavior is kinda toxic ?
Maybe that makes him worth a lot less ?
@@valuxlevelux5618 even Lebron fanboy Nic Wright has KD rated 13th greatest player to ever play the game. He is simply one of the most talented players in history. Doesn't matter if you like him or not he simply is one of the greats. He isn't the best leader or the most accomplished but his game and skills say he is one of the greats.
Lol he isnt steph curry but he and lebron are still very generational talents like curry, no 7 footer could shoot move and dribble like KD, no one could ever shoot like Curry and no one can be as an all around player like Lebron. Those 3 are generational talents. The difference is he is like Lebron, cannot win without a superteam. Curry is the least talented in those 3 but he won the most, losing like Lebron and KD did do not diminish your value like you are saying since Lebron is still in the goat convo despite winning only 4 in 19 seasons while Curry won 4 in 13. Not winning without a superteam should not be a knock on KD if youre not using it on lebron, just saying.
@@almac9203 if he is a lebron fanboy, his words are clueless.
Agreed, they are gonna have to make an example out of Kd
This take is why I like your channel you know they are not going to listen to kd but it makes the most basketball sense easily
To be honest, I think Sean Marks should stay but Steve trash should go.
Nash was working with trash. He also wasn't out there on the court.
I’m a new viewer and I got to say that you’re videos are awesome! Keep it up man!
Im with you KD, No Matter what they say are do. Because at the end of the day Your the Best Basket player Ever On The Court!!
KD not taking responsibility for his decisions, sadly proves even with his generational talent, KD is not a leader that can take you to a chip. Bro learned nothing when he was at GSW. Says a lot.
This is one of your best takes on this channel
Been here since like 50k subs. Look at you now. Keep up the good work.
They better hire Snyder as coach and retain Sean marks.
Great channel! Your personal is good too. Looking forward to the hair video
The KD slander is crazy 😕
Simmons, Kyrie and KD? Leave all the divas to rot on one team.
It's a League Quarantine.
I understand players wanting specific coaches or GMs that fit their style. I understand players wanting to play with their friends on super teams, even if I don't support it. That said, I'm so sick of KD's antics.
KD asked for Nash and at the end of the season said he's still the right coach. lmao. Yeah I can't support KD anymore, he's a 🤡. Warriors winning the finals have broke him.
He was handpicked by KD and Kyrie? Says who bro?
KD just got swept. That generational talent has come and gone.
facts
Awesome balanced and honest commentary!
Majority of nets fans actually follow the team and the incompetency of Nash, front office and ownership. We realize that casual fans that don’t actually watch nets games don’t understand how bad these guys are. Nash can’t make basic adjustments in a playoff series, marks allows Bruce to WALK without even making an offer after already letting Jeff green leave the previous year. The media will have you believe that Kd is the owner gm and coach when in reality he was the only constant for the last 2 years. Unfounded rumors and anonymous sources can pick away at the man’s reputation but he can’t respond or he’s petty and sensitive. He played as much ball as possible coming off an Achilles and other injuries that ppl claimed would make him a shell of himself. He played his ass off against Giannis and got clowned for nearly beating the best team in basketball by himself. He gets clowned for leaving golden state after his own teammate and the bat media tell him to leave. He literally can’t do anything without being bashed by everyone. Easy target, let’s dump it all on him because he’s supposed to be the number one guy
They could just get rid off steve nash honestly the gm did nothing wrong they could keep marks tbh and work things out .
Congrats on 200k!
'that's just surface level stuff'...such a good channel!!!!
your close to 200k!
I gotta go the other way, the only reason KD wants Marks gone is that Marks took back his team from the dysfunction and KD wants it back. Also, with almost every team powering up in free agency, how sure are we that KD and Kyrie will get a championship
Just by logic Marks cant be a good GM. He signed KD and Kyrie which flopped. Then he shipped all talent away to sign Harden for a short deal, which we all knew was not going to work out because of 3 divas, then they got rid of Harden when Kyrie was proven to be a liability because he's insane and often isnt in the mood to play ball. And dont gimme that BS about KD orchestrating all that. If that were the case then, and one player ruins a franchise, what is the GM doing? Not his job for sure!
Man no. I think you are wrong. As important as is to find a generational talent like kd, it's also extremely important to have a sustainable franchise, good front office and respectable coach. We can see every year generational talents fail (sixers and embiid, lakers and lebron, kd and the nets, kawhi and the clippers etc) in comparison to generational talents win with good front offices. Like steph and the warriors, like giannis and the bucks, like kawhi with the raptors. I think you are seeing only the superstar and forget the bigger picture that is needed to win an NBA championship. Without a good owner, a nice supporting cast, a smart GM and a good nba coach, superstars can't win on they own.
I'm a C's fan, why the hell would I want someone we just swept. The C's are already a championship contender with 26 JB not old man Durant.
Yea the Celtics look exciting and hopeful, so sad to hear them entertain trading Brown.
If I were Joe Tsai, the limit of giving in I would do is firing Nash for a better coach.
Marks stays because he is good at his job and he is likely to be there for a long time after the rest of this roster goes.
If one parses Durant’s demand, it can be argued that he doesn’t want the combo of Nash and Marks next season. Replacing Nash but keeping Marks meets the demand based on how it is phrased.
Durant gets a tiny win to assuage his bruised ego while the Nets jettison a coach who had no business having the job other than Durant and Kyrie pushing for it.
At this point they are keeping Nash just to prove a point.
I don't think anyone in their right mind believes that Nash can coach worth a damn, but they are going to keep him just to spite KD and restore some of the credibility they have lost over the past few years.
If they keep bending over and firing coaches just because one player demands it, then no reputable coach will ever want to sign for then in the future and contrary to what Kyrie thinks, they do need a good coach.
A new video on Tuesday? I was confused! I had to check my watch for the day. KD has got all the talent in the world, but he doesn't have what it takes to lead ... he's too petty. (Yes, that was a Steph reference)! You can't demand a trade and then turnaround and demand your current team fire the coach and GM.
Players should do their jobs and gms/coaches should do their own jobs cuz players are having too much power these days 🤦♂️
Totally agree💯 MJ didn’t like Krause but let him do his job and they won 6 rings
I tottaly 100 % agreeing with you sir.
Great video
To be fair KD IS RIGHT. Steve mash isn’t a championship coach have patty mills run baseline and swing it to KD for an iso all game with the occasional apsss to kyrie ISNT a championship winning formula
At least KD was direct in what he wanted. These teams would do the same to the players so the players that can should do the same.
Thank you 🙏🏾
If Joe Tsai has any skill at 4D chess, he has probably already given Sean Marks the unenviable task of firing Steve Nash in such a way that it gives Marks more time to repair his relationship with Kevin Durant. Tsai can't be seen as caving in so soon, so Marks must be the hatchet man, which is in his job description, anyway.
Like Casey correctly implies, there is no way KD is showing up to training camp if Nash is still the coach. If Marks miraculously finds a coach the entire team can be excited about, KD and Kyrie just might buy in.
But if you see NOTHING happen from the Brooklyn front office in the next 10 days, I guarantee Joe Tsai moves on this. Sean and Steve are toast, and should start sending out résumés to prospective employers. 💁🏻♂️🏀📜
As a celtics fan I hope they dont trade for KD great player but too much downside
Why was I just thinking that this man is trying to bully his way out. We're in for a hell of a lockout season.
Imagine getting rid of d-lo and then for this bs
He is actually not that good. However, as a whole, give me that D'Angelo Russell roster over this crap any day.
Come on KD. Everyone knew Nash was your puppet. You wanted hero ball, he gave you hero ball. He wasn't a great coach, but he did what you wanted. Nash as a player was one of the most unselfish guy to ever play in the NBA. There's no way he won't think of something that ACTUALLY involves the whole team smh.
What is Nash's excuse for losing 12 games in a row without KD? If KD forced the non structure on the Nets then why couldn't Nash do anything when KD wasn't there? Why were the Nets blowing teams out the previous season when they had Udoka and Dantoni but struggled all season without them? Why did Nash only win games with KD playing over 40 minutes every night? Nash has no offensive or defensive schemes and that's on him. If Nash had these great schemes but was prevented from implementing them why did he lose 12 in a row without KD?
I would fire nash but sean marks. I dont care what kd demanded. retaining sean marks being there still in brooklyn's interest
i think they still need to replace steve nash, his choices have been poor and if the nets have gotten to the playoffs it's been because of KD, not nash
Letting KD walk all over you now means you’ll lose respect from players moving forward for a long time
You fire Mark's it is a win for KD but if you trade him to a contender it is a win for KD. You lose respect doing either option.
@@almac9203 this is true, but one has short term consequences where as the other has long term, reputation damaging consequences
People for this don’t understand how business works. You don’t change your management team for an employee no matter how much of a superstar that employee is. It is the management team you need to stand by if they haven’t done anything wrong. This is a corporation at the end of the day and if they fire someone from management for no reason other then an employee wanting them out then future managers, coaches etc will think twice before doing business with you and joining the company.
Tired of hearing about 1 or 2 players being able to hold a team hostage for whatever they want. If I'm the Nets I keep Durant and put him and Kyrie on the new 'Play-for-pay' contract.
@am hoops i believe it was KD's way of killing any talk of him coming back and the nets rolling it back with KD and Kyrie. By publicly announcing what he said to Tsai, he is telling the nets he wants out, to force a trade out before the season starts. I guess its Kd's way of putting the nets into a corner and telling them he doesnt want to play in brooklyn.
tough spot for knicks cuz it lowers his value even more. Basically its Celtics if they offer Jalen Brown, or the Raptors.
As a Knicks fan, I wish Joe Tsai was our owner lol
Same feeling here
There are so many better coaches out there but Sean Marks isn’t because he’s a bad GM it’s because he won’t sign Kyrie to a max
Casey, if you think Steve Nash should fired to let KD run his show, then I think if a hypothetical Vancouver team comes in, I would think Nash would be a slam dunk choice for that team as HC. Tough situation for Sean Marks and Steve Nash in Brooklyn.
Rumors say that Kyrie wanted Phil handy to be the coach while KD wanted Ty Lou to be the coach but they got Steve Nash instead. I don’t think they wanted Nash as a coach. Especially if KD and Kyrie both hate him.
If I was the owner Kyrie and KD would be a NET until their contracts are up period. No more giving to either one of them. Either they play in NJ or they forfeit some money and ruin their own careers!!!
As a New York Knicks fan for centuries, I couldn't care less what Kevin Durant does, because he and Kyrie Irving disrespected my New York Knicks.
I hope the Nets franchises go into a tailspin for the next 50 years 👍🏽 🙂 😆 😅 🤣
Choosing KD would be the worst decision. They got swept in the first round with him. KD isn't what he used to be.
Total nonsense. Do you understand the game? The Nets were injured and he was surrounded by undersized guards that couldn't defend or defenders that couldn't shoot. It isn't his fault the playoff roster was garbage. The Nets traded their depth for Harden and traded Harden for a guy that didn't play a single minute and then they didn't get a minute from their 4th highest paid player as well. You are totally clueless. Seriously the Nets were injured and the injuries weren't to the end of the roster guys but player 3 and 4.
KD is so unlovable and blames others for his doing
Who's gonna coach the team if Nash is fired? Luke Walton? Derek Fisher? Ain't nobody in a current job wants to deal with that mess.
I'm with the Brooklyn owner. Attitude over talent.
That will be there downfall idiot’s
NETS SHOULD GIVE IN: TO WIN A TITLE YOU NEED A MVP CALIBER PLAYER, KD IS AN MVP CALIBER PLAYER(THERE'S LESS THAN 10 IN THE WHO LEAGUE:STEPH,LUKA,KA2HI,KD,BRON,GANNIS, BIG JOJO AND JOKER) IF YOU DON'T HAVE ONE OF THOSE YOU STAND NO CHANCE, YOU CAN FIRE NASH AND SIGN D'ANTONI AND THE PURPOSE OF A GM IS TO GET A MVP CALIBER PLAYER IN THE FIRST PLACE, THEY ALREADY GOT KD
Casey done gone lost his mind. Someone call an ambulance, he needs help. In what world does KD become GM, coach and star player after the years he has shafted the Nets with already??? You would think the low trade offers would clue some people in but apparently not. Casey still thinks Bam or Scottie will be swapped for KD!!! Dude that has NEVER been on the table and most certainly will NEVER be done...because KD's value is NOT generational anymore. His value is 'DIVA' who gets injured and is on a max 4 year deal that some team is going to swallow hard on.
very bad take, both coach and GM are bad and need to be fired eventually, but first he needs to get rid of KD no coach or GM with self respect will take a job if you fire them for KD
I wouldn’t fire anyone. KD needs to grow up.
Nash deserves it. He’s a terrible coach.
Lottery team without picks until 2050
Saying a guy like KD only comes around once every 50 years...come on. That’s like saying a guy like KD has only come around twice since beginning of the NBA. Jordan, Kobe, Lebron, Curry that’s roughly 10 years a piece. As good as KD is he’s just not that guy cuz he ain’t no leader! Your statement is something Skip Bayless would say LOL
Nets need to hire Quin Snyder
KD's basically came to to Brooklyn just to destroy the Nets from inside out, Got Atkinson fired, Got rid of their deep role players and all star Jarrett Allen's and a haul of picks. Giving them thought situation now about Simmons and choosing between him and Gm seasn marks and the Head coach that he handpicked. Like Stephen a smith once said about Phil Jackson "Get this man out of New York" Im losing KD's respect day by day ever since he left my warriors just because he's too sensitive about the media
Also Im choosing the gm and head coach over Durant, Durant's not winning the nets anything with the craziness he's bringing and without Shawn marks you would even have a good roster
Let’s be clear. KD said he doesn’t like the direction of the team because he wants to be traded but unsuccessful. That’s the main reason why.
If Sean Mark and Nash were fired, KD would still force to be traded.
I think Casey is wrong! Nets need trade kd or keep him for the 4 yrs. Nets list3n kd always gonna change his mind n make Nets worse than ever .
But trading Jb for Kd is a Biiiiiiig mistake.
Did everybody forgot the playoffs this season
While i disagree, your take makes perfect sense. Maybe no one in nets org wants to keep kd at this point. But realistically, they have to choose kd over marks and nash if they want to win immediately.
I don’t think anyone has an issue with KD’s demands, it’s the inclusion of Sean Marks that’s ridiculous. The man is good at his job. He gets things done, it’s the players that can’t get it done.
Great video
Every 50 years? 😂
I would love for Joe to start doing the petty billionaire moves he can afford to do. Just go nah. Stop trying to trade him and if he sits, let him sit out for 4 years. Only accept teams gutting the roster.
You can really feel Casey's frustration towards KD in this video 🤣
But we can't blame him, KD is really frustrating
I don’t get why they can just keep KD and Sean Marks-Steve Nash, and not let KD have all the power
Kd tryna pull some LeBron crap
You're wrong Casey. Enough with the "Players get what they want" nonsense.
Sean Marks helped them rebuild from a horrible situation before. If they don't fire him, he could do it for the Nets again even after KD is gone. How much longer is KD's prime? Like 1 or 2 more years? I would keep Marks. Nets are gonna have to blow it up sooner or later anyway.
The point of keeping KD should be looked at from a business angle, where he's generating profits for the Nets, not necessarily a championship. In this sense, Joe Tsai maybe forced to give in to his demands. They've made conscious choices of getting super stars onto the team and gutted all future assets for the win now / profit now mode. All they need to do is to keep the average fans in NY area happy and keep buying stuff and coming to games and get the revenue. They don't need to build team culture as not enough fans appreciate that.
Why does Sean marks looks like Nowitzki 😂😂😂😂
I get your point man but I disagree. Outside of enabling KDs toxic behavior, bringing back KD isn’t gonna win Brooklyn a title bc atp in his career he’s injury prone and hasn’t proven that he can lead a team while healthy to the finals since 2012. KD and Kyrie aren’t the recipe for a championships as the focal points of an offense bc they literally proved they can’t do it. They’re both proven GOAT tier supporting championship pieces but look what just happened this past postseason when they’re matched up against an actual good team in the Celtics🤷🏾♂️
KD only won on the Warriors. Kyrie only won with Lebron. Both are worse now, and bring more baggage. And the Nets aren't the Warriors. KD isn't Lebron. Even Lebron isn't winning anymore. The Nets aren't winning a Chip with KD or without him, so why let him call the shots?
@@shorewall although I’ll say that KD and Kyrie aren’t necessarily worse than they were w/ they’re previous teams, I agree. The baggage is too much for them and that’s definitely tanked their value. Unless they’re each playing with another top 10 player in the league as the sidekick, I don’t see either of them winning a ring again
Casey KD is coming to Phoenix, there’s nothing you can do about it. I can’t wait for your ‘I’m wrong’ video.
I feel sorry for nash man, one of the greats won so many awards yet still being disrespected.
But ig we really dont know whats happening there
If KD is the best or second best player in the league why he doesn’t win titles? While Curry won with a 50% Klay, a pasted his prime Green, and no bench depth. Giannis won with the Bucks, Lebron won everywhere he went to, so to me it’s disrespectful to say KD even belongs in that conversation.