More Gamma always helps. I really enjoyed this idea! I can see the "Mission... Completed..." with Unbound playing as he, much less violently this time, dies
I personally think Amy should have been the one to say goodbye to Gamma as she was the one who helped him have a heart. You could keep the Sonic speech as well.
Since this is base of Forces,, Gamma takes the place of Classic Sonic and this spends the most time with Tails. In addition, since I was trying to be accurate, Tails still needed to feel sad about his buddy vanishing.
Genuinely this is wonderful. As a HUGE fan of Gamma as a character, I really did love this. Personally I would’ve had Gamma and Amy interact a little more, as they were friends in Adventure, but overall this was pretty dang solid! ❤️
Wouldn't Gamma's first instinct be to try to dismantle Omega while he's inactive? I'm not totally familiar with Omega's lore but I'm assuming he's powered by Chaos drives or something, which Gamma wouldn't know about since he died before the events of SA2. He'd probably assume all of Eggman's robots are powered by Flickies and attempt to destroy any he comes across. Although maybe he could express confusion due to the absence of Flickies popping out of the new robot models he'd been destroying up until the point he meets Omega. Also, I see you made your Avatar a reference to Jet the Hawk as well. A man of culture.
He was indeed supposed to be jet, something I make a larger point with I'm the actual review. As for Omega, my logic was since Tails was in the middle of repairing Omega it should have been obvious. Plus, remember Gamma gets to access Omega's data directly to repair him.
I usually think Gamma should be left alone, much as I miss him, because his story is already complete. But if he were to return, these circumstances and your attention to his character makes it plenty justified. I love the attention to detail in explaining the flicky landing on the prototype ruby. Usual recent sonic writing would just leave that unanswered, but I really felt satisfied with that reveal at the end. Great work, man 😊
Thanks a bunch! Likewise I would prefer Gamma is left as a good story rather than needlessly recycled, but I felt like the situation around Forces would allow for a cameo that doesn't take away from the original.
This is an interesting What If. Gamma in Classic Sonic's place makes it even more interesting including the part of the spirit within the flicky in Sonic Adventure. Though if I may bring it up, you might have forgot that Gamma was in SA2 in the form of E-Series 1000. I understand if you forgot about that.
I did not forget, I simply ignored them because much like Chaos Gamma, those were not him at all. They were mass produced E series variants that Eggman ends up abandoning with the rest after Omega.
I don't want to write negative comments anymore. With that being said, I always appreciate your music choices. Hearing the gamma song, makes me want to listen to the entire SA soundtrack all over again lol.
😮 I wasn't expecting this nor Gamma! 👀 I have Forces but clearly have not played enough of it to even remotely remember the story lol. But that didn't detract from my enjoyment of this video! 😀 The ideas you presented were really interesting. We haven't seen Gamma since Adventure 1 (I think 🤔) so it was really interesting to bring him back, especially since Omega has been more present in mainline Sonic games since Heroes. I liked how you wove Gamma into the story and as a result, emphasized Tails' role and created an interesting dynamic between Gamma and Omega. When we think of complex characters, I think most fans tend to point to Shadow as a good example but Gamma had a rather emotional and unique story in Adventure. Returning to that a bit would be really cool in a mainline game. You were able to have continuity but also create something new and fresh. I really liked that! 🙂 Gamma's story here was sweet but also not a rehash of his old story. I feel like if Sega decided to kill off Shadow again after bringing him back, like if he was killed in Heroes or after or something, this would have been a way to do it. It's not retreading old waters in a way that is meaningless or just for some fan points. Gamma here served a purpose and I think you created that well. Good job. 🙂 I wouldn't mind more videos like this! You're a great writer and your impressions were really fun to listen to lol 😄
Thank you so much my guy! I made an effort to avoid simply re-doing the same story with a new coat of paint. I probably could have expanded a couple details but I like the result. Gamma does have a great story and I am glad his reputation has been tarnished by any sloppy additions. And thanks for your comment on my writing!
OMG Gamma Is my favorite sonic character and to be honest I’m sad yet happy he never came back.. Gammas Story was Satisfying enough to not need a sequel… and your explanation of his return was Good… you also never compromised character I have one thing to note…Eggman Never found out Gamma Defected he believed he died in the battle with sonic on the egg carrier in SA1… another thing to maybe do a continuation or side story to this would be What if tails rebuild gamma… I mean we saw tails Hack into Eggman Tech and Gamma was one of his more successful creations because he later refined The E-1000 in gammas image
Dang, I thought Eggman learned Gamma betrayed him over the course of Sonic Battle (Or the time leading up to it) but I suppose he never did confirm that...
How are you so sure that eggman never found about Gamma defecting? I mean there's literally nothing that states that eggman knew anything about gamma's whereabouts.
Sorry for being late for this, I didn't have time to check my sub box till now. While I do think that Gamma is truly the pink flicky powering the robot, I always liked that SA1 made it ambiguous and that you kept that. I really do like this rewrite, besides fixing some issues, it makes the Zavok clone be foreshadowing instead of a error and I thought it was a nice touch that the 3 gameplay styles are in minor way a return to SA2's 3 styles. (Rookie's more open levels for Exploration, Gamma for Shooting and Sonic of course for Speed)
No worries, I am glad you found the time to check this out! I was hoping to respect official depictions of Gamma so it's good to hear you feel I did a good job.
Well, depending on what character you add the story might end up changing severely. It might go down a whole different path, so trying to avoid that if anything is no void of making what if
I always wanted to see Gamma meet Omega, Gamma's directive was to free the E series, and he succeeded all up to Omega (Amy kinda took care of Alpha herself) yet, Omega is already free and at first, intended to destroy all of Eggman's assets This could eadly lead to a conflict of both fight or distrust, Gamma is doing it for the flickies (even tho Omega may bot have a flicky) and Omega purely out of anger and revenge
I like this what if and now I'm wondering if you can do what if involving Emerl? I love Emerl and I'm sad that we would most likely would never see him again seeing how he died at the end of Battle, but I'm still holding on the false hope that we might get to either see him again or play as him again. I can't really find any stories that involve Emerl any but one series of what if from one guy.
I'm confused about how much this game respects all-stars characters more than the main forces game. It was this kind of fan service that we wanted to see at Forces.
@@skeetermagee2487shadow never died to begin with, he crashed landed on Earth and was in critical condition. Gamma exploded. Though I'm not gonna lie, Omega continuing gamma's legacy as a recurring character in the series seems like a big slap in the face to gammas legacy, cuz Omega is just a cold heartless machine with the generic robot cliche destroy everything personality. And that's why I just personally don't like Omega cuz I feel like he's a crappy replacement for Gamma. That's like You having a small puppy that was the nicest creature on the planet and it died and your parents decide to buy you a blood thirsty bear instead to Honor the puppies memory. Omega is really the only way for Gamma legacy to carry on? Really!? A blood thirsty stereotype of a robot, REALLY? Gamma was a hero, and deserved a way better living legacy,the saddest part is no one knows what good deeds Gamma did before perishing (except in sonic x amy saw his destruction.) And we only have Omega to remember Gamma by ,GTFO SEGA!
JULIO AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA TO ADD GAMMA IN SONIC FORCES THAT WAY SHADOW AND ROUGE CAN TALK TO GAMMA AND JULIO AND I WON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE TH-cam WAR HAPPENING AND BY THE WAY MY NAME IS TAC AZIZ
I dont like this video.....I LOVE IT this looks AWSOME Also I have a idea similar to this video WHAT IF MEPHILES THE DARK was In SONIC FORCES what do you think of that
i really love how you made all the characters interact. i wish they would do the characters justice like this in the games
Thanks, this is what we used to get. I hope Ian brings it back in Frontiers
More Gamma always helps. I really enjoyed this idea! I can see the "Mission... Completed..." with Unbound playing as he, much less violently this time, dies
Gamma is the hero we need
I personally think Amy should have been the one to say goodbye to Gamma as she was the one who helped him have a heart. You could keep the Sonic speech as well.
Since this is base of Forces,, Gamma takes the place of Classic Sonic and this spends the most time with Tails. In addition, since I was trying to be accurate, Tails still needed to feel sad about his buddy vanishing.
Genuinely this is wonderful. As a HUGE fan of Gamma as a character, I really did love this. Personally I would’ve had Gamma and Amy interact a little more, as they were friends in Adventure, but overall this was pretty dang solid! ❤️
Happy to provide! I tried hard to maintain his characteristics in this one
Wouldn't Gamma's first instinct be to try to dismantle Omega while he's inactive? I'm not totally familiar with Omega's lore but I'm assuming he's powered by Chaos drives or something, which Gamma wouldn't know about since he died before the events of SA2. He'd probably assume all of Eggman's robots are powered by Flickies and attempt to destroy any he comes across. Although maybe he could express confusion due to the absence of Flickies popping out of the new robot models he'd been destroying up until the point he meets Omega.
Also, I see you made your Avatar a reference to Jet the Hawk as well. A man of culture.
He was indeed supposed to be jet, something I make a larger point with I'm the actual review. As for Omega, my logic was since Tails was in the middle of repairing Omega it should have been obvious. Plus, remember Gamma gets to access Omega's data directly to repair him.
2:35 The actual title of the game should be "Sonic Forces Classic Sonic into This Game"
Lol
I never wanted classic Sonic in Forces tbh. I remember originally thinking maybe Shadow would save Sonic not....Classic Sonic -_-
I think we have all been there!
I usually think Gamma should be left alone, much as I miss him, because his story is already complete. But if he were to return, these circumstances and your attention to his character makes it plenty justified. I love the attention to detail in explaining the flicky landing on the prototype ruby. Usual recent sonic writing would just leave that unanswered, but I really felt satisfied with that reveal at the end. Great work, man 😊
Thanks a bunch! Likewise I would prefer Gamma is left as a good story rather than needlessly recycled, but I felt like the situation around Forces would allow for a cameo that doesn't take away from the original.
Shadow lived, so why not him?
Gamma did not know why he was was alive.
But all he knew was that he must destroy eggman robots
Do any of us? Gamma did what he thought was best. RIP
Rest in peace gamma. Unfortunately, you were not the last of the e series
@The Mighty Emperor THIS IS AMAZING!
Thanks! I put a lot of thought into it
This is an interesting What If. Gamma in Classic Sonic's place makes it even more interesting including the part of the spirit within the flicky in Sonic Adventure. Though if I may bring it up, you might have forgot that Gamma was in SA2 in the form of E-Series 1000. I understand if you forgot about that.
I did not forget, I simply ignored them because much like Chaos Gamma, those were not him at all. They were mass produced E series variants that Eggman ends up abandoning with the rest after Omega.
I love this version of the story.
Glad you are enjoying it so far
@@TheRealMightyEmperor Thank you, If I could rewrite Sonic Forces, I would add the Freedom Fighters in place of Clastic Sonic.
@@daviddyster4145 That is something many of us originally expected with "Join the resistance"
@@TheRealMightyEmperor They would probably be there own cell of the resistance.
I don't want to write negative comments anymore. With that being said, I always appreciate your music choices. Hearing the gamma song, makes me want to listen to the entire SA soundtrack all over again lol.
That is one of the most memorable tracks I have ever heard, from one of the most memorable sound tracks to exist
@@TheRealMightyEmperor definately
this is great glad to see that my fav sonic character still getting lots of love
Glad to help
😮 I wasn't expecting this nor Gamma! 👀
I have Forces but clearly have not played enough of it to even remotely remember the story lol. But that didn't detract from my enjoyment of this video! 😀
The ideas you presented were really interesting. We haven't seen Gamma since Adventure 1 (I think 🤔) so it was really interesting to bring him back, especially since Omega has been more present in mainline Sonic games since Heroes.
I liked how you wove Gamma into the story and as a result, emphasized Tails' role and created an interesting dynamic between Gamma and Omega. When we think of complex characters, I think most fans tend to point to Shadow as a good example but Gamma had a rather emotional and unique story in Adventure. Returning to that a bit would be really cool in a mainline game. You were able to have continuity but also create something new and fresh. I really liked that! 🙂
Gamma's story here was sweet but also not a rehash of his old story. I feel like if Sega decided to kill off Shadow again after bringing him back, like if he was killed in Heroes or after or something, this would have been a way to do it. It's not retreading old waters in a way that is meaningless or just for some fan points. Gamma here served a purpose and I think you created that well. Good job. 🙂
I wouldn't mind more videos like this! You're a great writer and your impressions were really fun to listen to lol 😄
Thank you so much my guy! I made an effort to avoid simply re-doing the same story with a new coat of paint. I probably could have expanded a couple details but I like the result. Gamma does have a great story and I am glad his reputation has been tarnished by any sloppy additions.
And thanks for your comment on my writing!
Gamma has appeared in sonic adventure 2 as a random enemy and chaos gamma as mentioned in the video
@@jaroto12they are not actually gamma
Eventhough this story is a bit cheesy i would love it, and eventhough this would be kinda weird sinds gamma is unknown, i still want it
I would take it over classic Sonic
OMG Gamma Is my favorite sonic character and to be honest I’m sad yet happy he never came back.. Gammas Story was Satisfying enough to not need a sequel… and your explanation of his return was Good… you also never compromised character I have one thing to note…Eggman Never found out Gamma Defected he believed he died in the battle with sonic on the egg carrier in SA1… another thing to maybe do a continuation or side story to this would be What if tails rebuild gamma… I mean we saw tails Hack into Eggman Tech and Gamma was one of his more successful creations because he later refined The E-1000 in gammas image
Dang, I thought Eggman learned Gamma betrayed him over the course of Sonic Battle (Or the time leading up to it) but I suppose he never did confirm that...
@@TheRealMightyEmperor nope
How are you so sure that eggman never found about Gamma defecting? I mean there's literally nothing that states that eggman knew anything about gamma's whereabouts.
Sorry for being late for this, I didn't have time to check my sub box till now. While I do think that Gamma is truly the pink flicky powering the robot, I always liked that SA1 made it ambiguous and that you kept that. I really do like this rewrite, besides fixing some issues, it makes the Zavok clone be foreshadowing instead of a error and I thought it was a nice touch that the 3 gameplay styles are in minor way a return to SA2's 3 styles. (Rookie's more open levels for Exploration, Gamma for Shooting and Sonic of course for Speed)
No worries, I am glad you found the time to check this out! I was hoping to respect official depictions of Gamma so it's good to hear you feel I did a good job.
Well, depending on what character you add the story might end up changing severely. It might go down a whole different path, so trying to avoid that if anything is no void of making what if
I mean it could be Gamma or the Chaos Gamma thats still around from sonic battle but obviously the former has more character.
This was intended to be the original since Chaos Gamma had different memories
I always wanted to see Gamma meet Omega, Gamma's directive was to free the E series, and he succeeded all up to Omega (Amy kinda took care of Alpha herself) yet, Omega is already free and at first, intended to destroy all of Eggman's assets
This could eadly lead to a conflict of both fight or distrust, Gamma is doing it for the flickies (even tho Omega may bot have a flicky) and Omega purely out of anger and revenge
I really enjoyed the Sonic Universe comic where the two met. My What If Sonic Died series also has Omega meet Gamma briefly
This would have been perfect.
Glad to hear you think so
I like this what if and now I'm wondering if you can do what if involving Emerl? I love Emerl and I'm sad that we would most likely would never see him again seeing how he died at the end of Battle, but I'm still holding on the false hope that we might get to either see him again or play as him again. I can't really find any stories that involve Emerl any but one series of what if from one guy.
Gemerl is Emerl in the current timeline, he gets some stories in IDW.
I'm confused about how much this game respects all-stars characters more than the main forces game. It was this kind of fan service that we wanted to see at Forces.
Yes it was. They had so many opportunities to do something amazing with the story, but they went with the Generations approach instead.
I love E-123 Omega and E-102 Gamma
There should be a lot for you to enjoy here then!
If you want more, I already have a video all about Gamma on the channel!
Great video
Thank you very much
i miss gamma, i guess if sonic team remake sonic adventure wee will see him again.
Probably with a different voice though....
@@TheRealMightyEmperor yeah but as long as his key character is the same id be fine with it.
It's pretty good
Thank you 😊
I legit believe that Gamma is replaced by Omega? Which is why we never see or hear of Gamma! I believe Gamma is a better character anyways
I wouldn't say replaced. Gamma died and Sega didn't want to disturb that
@@TheRealMightyEmperor Yeah but so did Shadow and look where he is at now
@@skeetermagee2487shadow never died to begin with, he crashed landed on Earth and was in critical condition. Gamma exploded. Though I'm not gonna lie, Omega continuing gamma's legacy as a recurring character in the series seems like a big slap in the face to gammas legacy, cuz Omega is just a cold heartless machine with the generic robot cliche destroy everything personality. And that's why I just personally don't like Omega cuz I feel like he's a crappy replacement for Gamma. That's like You having a small puppy that was the nicest creature on the planet and it died and your parents decide to buy you a blood thirsty bear instead to Honor the puppies memory. Omega is really the only way for Gamma legacy to carry on? Really!? A blood thirsty stereotype of a robot, REALLY? Gamma was a hero, and deserved a way better living legacy,the saddest part is no one knows what good deeds Gamma did before perishing (except in sonic x amy saw his destruction.) And we only have Omega to remember Gamma by ,GTFO SEGA!
JULIO AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA TO ADD GAMMA IN
SONIC FORCES THAT WAY SHADOW AND ROUGE CAN TALK TO GAMMA AND JULIO AND I WON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE TH-cam WAR HAPPENING AND BY THE WAY MY NAME IS TAC AZIZ
Let's go Gamma
I dont like this video.....I LOVE IT this looks AWSOME
Also I have a idea similar to this video
WHAT IF MEPHILES THE DARK was In SONIC FORCES
what do you think of that
What of Mephiles was in Sonic Forces: Infinite Dies
@@TheRealMightyEmperor oh well if your ok with it can you make a video about what if was MEPHILES in Sonic forces please
@@metalsonicforces1402 Maybe, although my mind is on Frontiers at the moment
So does Mania not exist in this timeline?
Who knows, the 1 part that matters is Sonic does not cross over from Mania.