That has to be a series of extremely useful tips for those folks who have one of these who have a similar or same NH baler to this machine Ted. Just brilliant helpful advice for dealing with this nightmare problem - it has to be really exasperating for anyone in this situation with a crop needing to be baled!
I can't find the net wrap on my baler. thanks for the video it is very useful for people that have round balers not Square balers. hope you have a great day
YOurs just has that really heavy twine that gets tangled on everything.... should have a wrapper on the back of your big baler ... that would be pretty sweet!
Little late seeing this video, but hopefully you can provide some insight. We have the RB 564, so a red new Holland. It ran great until we changed the netwrap. Now it’ll make the bale but won’t engage or Pick up the netwrap.
I'm running a 664. Had a helluva time running it yesterday as the net wrap wouldn't get grabbed because parts of the mesh were breaking and wrapping around the roller. I had to stop and cut the mesh off of the metal roller (that keeps the mesh inline with the duckbill) and restart the mesh. Finally ran out of the old roll of mesh and Dad and I put in the new one-and the problem completely went away. One question I have is whenever the duckbill moves in for the bale to catch I'm hearing metal on metal for a second or two like the duckbill is dragging on a roller. Surely this isn't supposed to happen is it? I'm learning the quirks and tricks on the fly with this and I'll gladly take a few mesh problems over the old Vermeer 650F we had that took SO much time to twine wrap, shut off the baler, open gate, close gate, and then pull forward 10 feet to drag up a wad of hay praying the bale would start. This year has been extraordinary for red clover hay as our 664 was gobbling up windrows sometimes 4 feet high. Thanks for the video-there are simply things a manual can't teach that practical experience does. (Oh and don't forget to release the brake catch! I forgot and wrapped a bale at least 4 or 5 times instead of the usual 2 lol.) Things have come a long way from the old Allis Chalmers Rotobaler. (That my Dad still uses. Talk about a baler that requires the most absolutely perfect hay to work.)
Tom Servo yea I would guess it’s incerting it too far. Should be a mechanical stop so it doesn’t go in to far Had that happen once and it got caught and did thousands in damage
My baler won't leave enough net through the duck bill and I have to thread it through every bale. Had all the other issues you talked about but not surprising that the baler I brought hadn't been stored well or used for 3 years
hope you get it going perfectly... check everthing make sure the roll turns free make sure the brake is adjusted. THe system works well when it works but it can be a pita when it doesnt
Hi Ted. I have a cropcutter 644. When the bale is full it catches the net and starts wrapping. Then an error sounds on the box and the net keeps going. It does not retract the actuator itself. You can manually retract it on the control box and guess when there is enough wrap applied and retract fully and it cuts properly. I have replaced the sensor on the wrap roller. Any idea what to look at next? TIA
Ted I have question on br 7090 why would the net wrap stop working when there is 1.25 inch of net left on spool I have to re thread the net every time any ideas thanks
Very possible the counter or the roller that measure the net going on is hung up and not touching the roll. Also possible the brake tention is week and not cutting good as the larger roller has more tention on brake
I have the exact same baler baler but its the crop cutter version and this fall late it has started slipping the belts without any hay in the chamber, it also has 0 belt pressure when it does this. so far we have rebuilt one of the pressure cylinders that wasnt holding pressure and put adifferent adjustment valve on off another baler and still the same problem.the baler only has 3600 bales threw it,i was wondering if u had any ideas to try?
What would cause the baler not to cut the net wrap all the time. Most of the time I’m having to turn off the pto and turn it back on for it to cut. If I don’t it just keeps wrapping the bale
The knife should or could be in need of sharpening. The spring could need adjusted The brake could also be in need of adjustment. Also make sure the roll is spinning the right way
I enjoyed your video. very informative. I have a br740A round baler it has a problem im having a hard time tackling. I keep getting a actuator error i did what the book said put independent 12 volts to see if it works and it retracts and extends with power. it will retract with the controller it will not extend. It isn't making any bales. have you had this?
i had a br 780 and a 7090 with voltage problems and towards the end of the cord where you hook it up to the battery there is a little black box thing... there is a relay in there like a 30 or 40 amp one. There is just plastic covering it. i have had the relay go bad not letting the power get to the acuator at full voltage cut covering back hooked jumper wire across terminals on relay to test that was the problem replaced the relay and problem went away... very hard to figure out the probems for sure but might be worth a try
with baler off and even tractor off you can have your net out and hit the wrap button and jump out of cab and spin the wheel that counts the net going on..... keep spinning and it will think that the bale is wrapping and you can watch the actuator cycle. some times its easier to do with two people. not starting could be alot of different things
I have a BR 780 when the net wrap gets low it won’t take it you have to pull the net wrap back out of the rolls re-threaded and then I will take it but if you put a brand new roll in it works every time perfect ~Net wrap gifts low again . Any ideas on why this is happening?
I have a roll belt 450 and I’ve had trouble with it tomahawking bales. I watch my levels in the cab almost every time it right on but kicks out a tomahawk bale. Any thoughts on a fix ?
Mark Miller is the net wrapping on a roller or just making it tomahawk ? If not wrapping does you belts stop turning when you open door. If they do not your door could be opening to slow and making it bind up and writ the net as your dumping the bale
@@tedkahler9738 Thanks for get back to me. My baler would wrap just great maybe about 5 then tomahawk one then a good one then tomahawk. My belts keep turning when I eject the bale. Im new to this baler but seems to do it more and more. I can do 30 bales and 8 would be tomahawks. Most of my fields are bumpy and not all flat many hills.
I’d suspect the spreading rollls for the net are locked up installed between wrong or not enough brake applied As well as a problem with the actuator on where the net brake is applied
We just got a BR750. Many times to won't grab the net wrap to begin wrapping. We have to get under and cut the net wrap to a length and then initiate the wrap again. Any ideas?
Is your net spinning free when break is released? Is the setting for tail length too short. Normally when not cutting or starting is because it’s not spinning free when break is off
@@tedkahler9738 How do I adjust the tail length? My BR7070 is leaving a really short tail and then it struggles to catch the wrap when starting the next bale.
@@ryanstockwell7623 have to check the book but I would make sure till is free spinning when. Brake is released first as that caused a lot of issues for me with net not starting
I've had the brake too loose and wrap the bale about 7 times before I could get everything shut down. Had error code and it fell down on the shaft wrapped up on the pto and short shaft from gearbox to triple sprockets. What a mess.
Jordan Carroll I’m running 64 inch in a br 7090 I’d be willing to help diagnose problem Make sure the net is routed properly (I know I have had it wrong before). Net needs to be comming off top of roll . Make sure all the spreader rollers are turning free have seen them get net wrapped on them and lock up or slow down. I always run the brake much tighter than they say to. So that is something to check. It’s possible the sensor became loose and the net duckbill needs recalibrated. Even possible the linkage became loose and the brake is not engaging as it should either . I could pm my number to you if you would want to talk to me more about anything
Good vid Dads baler has something wrong in the computer because it won't even do anything if you select net wrap but it isn't worth fixing. It is $5500 just to fix the pick up so we asked what about just buying a new pick up but that is $24,000 lol
service man said it was the computer but that doesn't mean he knows anything you know how that goes sometimes they really don't know much. Might check the motor now.
Anybody have any suggestions on a BR 780 every 5-8 bale the net wrap will not wrap the outside edge of the bale And does not cut well Changed the bearings on the cutter as the cutter bar would hang up occasionally Changed the brake pad on the net wrap roll as it was pretty worn Both improved the issue but did not eliminate it Most recently due to a poor net wrap cut pieces of net wrap got mixed in with the drive bearing and caused it to fail Any suggestions are much appreciated
This baler has been doing fine until here lately it just won't start the wrap it rolls off too much wrap on the previous bale and that's the problem, on this baler if it's too much wrap off it want start
Jenny Plummer I have had it over extend or over retract and get stuck. Had to take bolt out of actuator that holds it to duckbill then turn by hand to get it free re install then re calibrate and if issues continues your actuator clutch is getting bad
Gustav not exactly seeing your point?? Not a dealer for them with ink 200 miles .... be pretty hard to convince me that you will never break down and need dealer support
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That has to be a series of extremely useful tips for those folks who have one of these who have a similar or same NH baler to this machine Ted. Just brilliant helpful advice for dealing with this nightmare problem - it has to be really exasperating for anyone in this situation with a crop needing to be baled!
It is sure a pain in the rear... especially when the rain is comming and your messing around with your net wrap!!!
Thank you for doing that Ted. I have not had those issues yet, but checking those few things will become part of my start up checklist.
Atleast you know in the future if it does happen
I can't find the net wrap on my baler. thanks for the video it is very useful for people that have round balers not Square balers. hope you have a great day
YOurs just has that really heavy twine that gets tangled on everything.... should have a wrapper on the back of your big baler ... that would be pretty sweet!
Little late seeing this video, but hopefully you can provide some insight.
We have the RB 564, so a red new Holland.
It ran great until we changed the netwrap.
Now it’ll make the bale but won’t engage or
Pick up the netwrap.
thank you for posting...very informative. keep em coming!
achieversgymnasts thanks I really appreciate the kind worrs
Don’t forget about the duckbill adjustment …Your tips are spot on 👍
thanks
I was having that exact problem on our NH baler! Extremely helpful video. Thanks!!
Were you able to get the problem solved?? If you did what was the problem Thanks for watching
I'm running a 664. Had a helluva time running it yesterday as the net wrap wouldn't get grabbed because parts of the mesh were breaking and wrapping around the roller. I had to stop and cut the mesh off of the metal roller (that keeps the mesh inline with the duckbill) and restart the mesh. Finally ran out of the old roll of mesh and Dad and I put in the new one-and the problem completely went away.
One question I have is whenever the duckbill moves in for the bale to catch I'm hearing metal on metal for a second or two like the duckbill is dragging on a roller. Surely this isn't supposed to happen is it? I'm learning the quirks and tricks on the fly with this and I'll gladly take a few mesh problems over the old Vermeer 650F we had that took SO much time to twine wrap, shut off the baler, open gate, close gate, and then pull forward 10 feet to drag up a wad of hay praying the bale would start. This year has been extraordinary for red clover hay as our 664 was gobbling up windrows sometimes 4 feet high.
Thanks for the video-there are simply things a manual can't teach that practical experience does. (Oh and don't forget to release the brake catch! I forgot and wrapped a bale at least 4 or 5 times instead of the usual 2 lol.) Things have come a long way from the old Allis Chalmers Rotobaler. (That my Dad still uses. Talk about a baler that requires the most absolutely perfect hay to work.)
Tom Servo yea I would guess it’s incerting it too far. Should be a mechanical stop so it doesn’t go in to far Had that happen once and it got caught and did thousands in damage
another point in case of how it is good to understand the operation of your equipment.. well done Ted.
Thanks soybean farmer
We have that same kind of Baylor but we're having problems with the hay getting stuck up in it before even goes into the machine itself!?
teeth being weak can cause issues
My baler won't leave enough net through the duck bill and I have to thread it through every bale. Had all the other issues you talked about but not surprising that the baler I brought hadn't been stored well or used for 3 years
hope you get it going perfectly... check everthing make sure the roll turns free make sure the brake is adjusted. THe system works well when it works but it can be a pita when it doesnt
Hello, I'm having a issue with my case baler. ( your monitor is the same as mine) in manual mode the it won't retract. No clue. Any help appreciated.
Hi Ted. I have a cropcutter 644. When the bale is full it catches the net and starts wrapping. Then an error sounds on the box and the net keeps going. It does not retract the actuator itself. You can manually retract it on the control box and guess when there is enough wrap applied and retract fully and it cuts properly. I have replaced the sensor on the wrap roller. Any idea what to look at next? TIA
Have you tried to calibrate the actuator
Nothing beats experience....good of you too take time to share yours...👍👍
thank i appreciate that
Hello, I have a br7090 new holland baler and when the wrap gets low, it will start wrapping the bales and will not stop.
Would guess either brake is too loose or the little wheel that counts the wrap is binding up on something causing it to not touch the roll any longer
Ted I have question on br 7090 why would the net wrap stop working when there is 1.25 inch of net left on spool I have to re thread the net every time any ideas thanks
Very possible the counter or the roller that measure the net going on is hung up and not touching the roll. Also possible the brake tention is week and not cutting good as the larger roller has more tention on brake
I have the exact same baler baler but its the crop cutter version and this fall late it has started slipping the belts without any hay in the chamber, it also has 0 belt pressure when it does this. so far we have rebuilt one of the pressure cylinders that wasnt holding pressure and put adifferent adjustment valve on off another baler and still the same problem.the baler only has 3600 bales threw it,i was wondering if u had any ideas to try?
Hayden Hostetler does it get pressure on belts when hay is in machine. Could be density cylinders over full or belts may need tightened
yes after it makes a small core everything works as it should u just have to be careful not to plug it first lol
What would cause the baler not to cut the net wrap all the time. Most of the time I’m having to turn off the pto and turn it back on for it to cut. If I don’t it just keeps wrapping the bale
The knife should or could be in need of sharpening. The spring could need adjusted The brake could also be in need of adjustment. Also make sure the roll is spinning the right way
Thanks just what i was looking for
Hola desde Argentina! Tengo una BR7090 que no me corta la red tal vez podes ayudarme
I enjoyed your video. very informative. I have a br740A round baler it has a problem im having a hard time tackling. I keep getting a actuator error i did what the book said put independent 12 volts to see if it works and it retracts and extends with power. it will retract with the controller it will not extend. It isn't making any bales. have you had this?
i had a br 780 and a 7090 with voltage problems and towards the end of the cord where you hook it up to the battery there is a little black box thing... there is a relay in there like a 30 or 40 amp one. There is just plastic covering it. i have had the relay go bad not letting the power get to the acuator at full voltage cut covering back hooked jumper wire across terminals on relay to test that was the problem replaced the relay and problem went away... very hard to figure out the probems for sure but might be worth a try
you starting a PSA series? jk. there is so much going on with all this equipment now a days good to see someone posting their fixes.
Yea i need to start videoing more of my little fixes.... just seem i am always in a hurry though!!
thanks Ted ive never been around a round baler but interesting to know how they work.
I should show more on how they work
that would be interesting to me. never ran one or realy seen them run much.
I just bought a used BR780A and having problems with the net and twine starting. I think the actuator is bad is there anyway to check it ?
with baler off and even tractor off you can have your net out and hit the wrap button and jump out of cab and spin the wheel that counts the net going on..... keep spinning and it will think that the bale is wrapping and you can watch the actuator cycle. some times its easier to do with two people. not starting could be alot of different things
Really handy tips thank you. 👍
No problem 👍
My bailer for some reason does not wrap, but I keep having an error on the monitor saying actuator. What does that mean?
@@scot519 more than likely actuator is not going home. Either actuator is going bad or power or sensor problem
We have a New Holland BR 750 Baler and been using twine and want to change to net wrap. What do I need to do to program the baler
If you Baler is net ready you have to hit the twine net button and set number of wraps as well as load the net
I have a BR 780 when the net wrap gets low it won’t take it you have to pull the net wrap back out of the rolls re-threaded and then I will take it but if you put a brand new roll in it works every time perfect ~Net wrap gifts low again . Any ideas on why this is happening?
break is not quite releasing all the way or the roll does not spin free.. when the roll gets smaller it takes more force to get roll to spin
What would make the wrap go only to the middle and not all the way out?
Roll on backward break not adjusted right or spiral rollers bearings going out
I have a roll belt 450 and I’ve had trouble with it tomahawking bales. I watch my levels in the cab almost every time it right on but kicks out a tomahawk bale. Any thoughts on a fix ?
Mark Miller is the net wrapping on a roller or just making it tomahawk ? If not wrapping does you belts stop turning when you open door. If they do not your door could be opening to slow and making it bind up and writ the net as your dumping the bale
@@tedkahler9738 Thanks for get back to me. My baler would wrap just great maybe about 5 then tomahawk one then a good one then tomahawk. My belts keep turning when I eject the bale. Im new to this baler but seems to do it more and more. I can do 30 bales and 8 would be tomahawks. Most of my fields are bumpy and not all flat many hills.
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I have a 660 newholland that will sometimes auto tie the wrap but most the time I have to manually push the tie button. Any ideas
Paige Carney what does it do when it doesn’t wrap?
Hey. I have an br 6090. I am struggling to get it to wrap my edges of my bales
I’d suspect the spreading rollls for the net are locked up installed between wrong or not enough brake applied As well as a problem with the actuator on where the net brake is applied
is this the same as the 648 round bales?
is say the 648 is much older not sure of the similarity for sure
We just got a BR750. Many times to won't grab the net wrap to begin wrapping. We have to get under and cut the net wrap to a length and then initiate the wrap again. Any ideas?
Is your net spinning free when break is released? Is the setting for tail length too short. Normally when not cutting or starting is because it’s not spinning free when break is off
@@tedkahler9738 I will check the brake and spinning. Does the cutting blade need to be sharp or replaced after a while?
@@joelknierim1456 I have took knife off and filed back to sharp edge
@@tedkahler9738 How do I adjust the tail length? My BR7070 is leaving a really short tail and then it struggles to catch the wrap when starting the next bale.
@@ryanstockwell7623 have to check the book but I would make sure till is free spinning when. Brake is released first as that caused a lot of issues for me with net not starting
How do you change your baler from twine to netwrap? It keeps telling me I have an actuator error
Button for n monitor. I’d suspect there is something wrong with your actuator if it had an error pop up
@@tedkahler9738 thank you for the reply!! I have the actuator moving but It won't move the duck bill..im stumped at the moment.
I've had the brake too loose and wrap the bale about 7 times before I could get everything shut down. Had error code and it fell down on the shaft wrapped up on the pto and short shaft from gearbox to triple sprockets. What a mess.
Thats never good..... always a mess when wrap gets wraped in the wrong places!
My BR740A silage special baler will not wrap close to the edges and I have 51 inch net wrap. Any suggestions new holland folks?
Jordan Carroll I’m running 64 inch in a br 7090 I’d be willing to help diagnose problem Make sure the net is routed properly (I know I have had it wrong before). Net needs to be comming off top of roll . Make sure all the spreader rollers are turning free have seen them get net wrapped on them and lock up or slow down. I always run the brake much tighter than they say to. So that is something to check. It’s possible the sensor became loose and the net duckbill needs recalibrated. Even possible the linkage became loose and the brake is not engaging as it should either . I could pm my number to you if you would want to talk to me more about anything
Good vid Dads baler has something wrong in the computer because it won't even do anything if you select net wrap but it isn't worth fixing. It is $5500 just to fix the pick up so we asked what about just buying a new pick up but that is $24,000 lol
Is the net moter bad??? or how do you know it is the computer?
service man said it was the computer but that doesn't mean he knows anything you know how that goes sometimes they really don't know much. Might check the motor now.
My Kuhn baler monitor goes insane sometimes but makes great bales
Seems some times the newer things just like to make noises once and a while
my NH 848 baler keeps wrapping the net wrap around the roller and not the bale how do i fix that.
Big JB 98 check roller for mud dirt if none of that check out roller for any nicks dings or welder splatters.
@@tedkahler9738 i have had it all apart before no mud or dings on the roller could it be the knife it hasent been sharpened in years
Big JB 98 sure could be knife. Take it out and hand sharpen us what I have done on mine every year
Anybody have any suggestions on a BR 780
every 5-8 bale the net wrap will not wrap the outside edge of the bale And does not cut well
Changed the bearings on the cutter as the cutter bar would hang up occasionally
Changed the brake pad on the net wrap roll as it was pretty worn
Both improved the issue but did not eliminate it
Most recently due to a poor net wrap cut pieces of net wrap got mixed in with the drive bearing and caused it to fail
Any suggestions are much appreciated
Is the roll on the correct way….. is the break mechanism working. It could be possible the sensor is failing or out of adjustment
What would cause the wrap not to start on a 450ut roll belt?
Martha Haggard any error codes?
@@tedkahler9738 no
Martha Haggard is it rounded correctly
Martha Haggard what exactly does it do
This baler has been doing fine until here lately it just won't start the wrap it rolls off too much wrap on the previous bale and that's the problem, on this baler if it's too much wrap off it want start
the actuator error code keeps coming on and it wont wrap the bale of hay how do i go about fixing this
antonio baker can you get the code to clear. Do you have Instagram might be easier to talk through there
my name is ted kahler on Instagram... send me a pm on there ill try to help you out
I have a BR780 net wrap only works in auto intermittently
that is never any good did you get it figured out?
How to fix new Holland 650 twine baler same issue
not very fimillar with twine id guess the knife would need adjusted
644 bale command plus will not extend duck bill showing er 2 error whatever that is please help thanks
Jenny Plummer could low voltage sensor could be bad or actuator could be bad
@@tedkahler9738 thank you sir will check that out
Actuator will chatter but not move where is the low voltage sensor located at and what should it read any other ideas, thanks
Jenny Plummer would you like to call me
Jenny Plummer I have had it over extend or over retract and get stuck. Had to take bolt out of actuator that holds it to duckbill then turn by hand to get it free re install then re calibrate and if issues continues your actuator clutch is getting bad
My bailer won't go back to home
Good chance actuator is bad
Get a pto guard man!!!
It was on order... and was put on ... now its traded and gone
Claas much simpler at reliable.
Gustav not exactly seeing your point?? Not a dealer for them with ink 200 miles .... be pretty hard to convince me that you will never break down and need dealer support
Solution to all of these problems... sell your NH and get a John Deere 😉
and then you get rid of these problems and then have the problems deeres have.... every brand has its problems get over it