I bought the White 'bargain seat' (they only had a choice of red or all black when I bought mine) and the Zoom seat post after watching this video. I would rate it as a much larger improvement than he mentioned in the video - A HUGE improvement, IMO.. I chose the bargain seat based on the compliance of it's springs, shown in the video. The Cloud 9 seat's springs look like they were designed for a 400 pound rider as they were not flexing at all and now I know why the Cloud 9 I bought for my last bike was such a waste of money. If you buy this seat and then play around with the spring adjustment in the Zoom post and get it just right for your weight, you will end up with at LEAST a 5X more comfortable ride than the stock seat on the stock seat post . . . . and all for about $50. Certainly the biggest bang for the buck of all the mods I've made to my bike. Kudos for a very well made and very helpful video! - I don't usually run out and buy things based on a single video, but it really paid off this time
Thanks so much for the kind words and feedback! I am glad the video was helpful and I will definitely take your advice and try playing around with the adjustments now. It was such an improvement without adjusting anything, I didn't bother trying. After reading your post, I will try a bunch of different levels. Now that I've been riding a little longer, I agree with you that the Cloud 9 springs don't do as much as the white seat springs do.
Nice review! Just received my XP 2.0 Step-Thru and it’s my favorite ebike so far. I like the size and overall versatility and so far the best value and support. I labored for weeks making a decision on a folder with more power than the XP at a good price. I finally gave up and glad I bought the XP after receiving it. I’m now working on accessorizing the bike but I have to say it really doesn’t need much. Mainly a more comfortable seat and good bike lock to slow down the thieves. Also added a six gallon milk crate on the rear rack for hauling. Lectric is shipping me the comfort seat package included with the Mother’s Day bundle. Waiting to see how comfortable it is and if I will need to improve further with better seat and post. Thanks!
Nice demonstration! I think it would be cool if you did a comparison between the comfort group that you can now order from Electric versus the Cloud 9 and that Zoom post. My bikes are on order, and I ordered that Comfort group with them because I heard of the complaints about the stock seat.
Just out of curiosity sake…. Noticing the compression of the seat post…How much do you weigh, and where did you have the Zoom (6mm) adjustment set??? Screwed in, screwed out, and by how much based on your weight???
I am 172lbs. I have them set at the stock position which is almost flush at the lowest level, maybe a just a few mm in, so basically at the lowest level. I also lifted my feet off the pedal to show it really bouncy as much as possible, but normally it doesn't bounce that much with normal riding as my legs are usually on the pedals taking off a bunch of leg weight during normal riding.
It may actually be the same manufacturer. I got those as samples to see if I might carry them on the website. Still debating if it will be worthwhile. They take up a ton of space and are expensive to ship.
Great video! I did purchase the suspension seat post and the Cloud 9 seat. I am having trouble connecting the 2 together, any advice? There must be something I am missing. Thanks!
I am so sorry this reply is so late. I hope you were able to get the post and seat connected by now. If you weren't able to figure it out, can you explain the difficulty you are having? Maybe I can make a video for you and others that might be having the same difficulty with the attachment.
Sucks that the Zoom seat post is so short. The stock XP seat post is barely long enough for me. I placed an order for 2 of yours but had to cancel after I noticed that they are not long enough for taller riders.
1000% agree. I Should’ve definitely talked some about the posts. Those ZOOM posts are the best and it’s why I decided to start carrying them on my ecommerce store.
The C9 will work with almost any seat post and should be compatible to work with the XPeak. The XPeak has a 31.8mm seatpost diameter and the 31.6mm posts should fit and will just need the bracket tightening screw turned a couple of times.
What seat and post you recommend for a 6 foot three 275 pound man? Everything seems made for me, but my husband is outside the weight range of everything we were looking at. Ideally post needs to be a bit tall, and max out above the top 250lbs we've found.
I am so sorry, but at this time I don't have any recommendations for riders that tall on a Lectric XP. Is it an option to look for a larger ebike for him with a little more power? It would be a lot more comfortable for him. Something like the Magicycle Cruiser, Snapcycle R1, or Mokwheel Upland. These are all on the larger side and you wouldn't need such a long post. All of them would also be able to flatten hills pretty easily even at 275.
How much side movement is their in the electric suspension upgrade seat, what is the best seat and post you recommend for a person that is 250lbs, thanks
What would you recommend for someone who was 125 pounds, 5'7? I am worried about purchasing the wrong option because I want something that would work with my size.
The length is all depends on how tall you are. The ZOOM posts I sell are 31.6mm in diameter and guaranteed to fit all the Lectric 2.0 and 1.0 ebikes and are recommended for those between 5'2" and 6' tall. If you decide to buy another suspension seat post elsewhere, just be sure it is at least 31.6mm diameter up to 31.8 max. I've only tried the 31.6mm, but the stock post on the 1.0 was 31.8mm so that should work on third party posts too.
Just watched your video! That was awesome! If anyone reading this wants to see how a second battery was added, check out the video here: th-cam.com/video/X5GGnqpHkHo/w-d-xo.html Do you happen to have links to where you got all the parts? Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge! I may end up copying your lesson and do a video on it as well (if you don't mind). I will be sure to give you all the credit as I would not have thought about doing it as I usually don't like touching electrical stuff that I could end up blowing up, but you definitely made it seem quite easy.
@@EbikeProducts I dont mind. I dont know how to link sorry. message me on my vid if you have more questions ill be happy to help you or take pics of the packages of the parts I dont do electric etc either but my friend showed me how a year ago and its worked great, Privately we've shown dozens people how and they love it too ,,so simple
Sorry, I do not recommend the post for riders 6ft or taller who like to have full leg extension when they ride. Some people at 6ft don’t mind it, but I think it’s best to get a post that can go higher.
Sorry, I haven't tested or researched any other seat posts. Some of the others on the market are soo expensive I wasn't able to buy any to test. If I do get a chance to get my hands on any other brands, I'll definitely make a video of it.
Awesome! I'll be doing a suspension post giveaway in my next video. Be sure to comment on that video when it comes out to get a chance to win! Thanks for watching and commenting!
I’m not sure about the performance differences of the posts, but a big difference is the length. The Zoom posts is too short for anyone over 6 feet tall who wants full leg extension when riding. Check out Jeremiah McIntosh’s channel. He has a great video comparing them (and maybe even more than just those 2)
@@EbikeProducts I'm 6'2.5", but I have a long torso. When I bought my mountain bike, I was looking at one model and the salesman told me not to bother, that I was too short for that bike. First time I'd ever been called short in my life. He meant that my legs were proportionately short for my height, so maybe the Zoom will work.
The Cloud 9 was definitely a little more soft when I focused on what I was feeling. I now realize that most of the time the white seat is comfortable enough that I don't have any discomfort so I don't even think about what seat I have on. Since it is about 2 pounds lighter, I will be using the white seat more to save that little extra weight to get a little more battery life. I know it's not a lot to make a difference by itself, but when I put all the accessories and stuff that adds extra weight together, that 2 pounds may help to squeeze out maybe a mile or two when I really need it or if the battery dies and I need to manpower pedal my way home.
Hello, what is the difference (besides about $10) btw the zoom IDY - www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07SHSV6ZV/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A25SU2U3DED2JB&th=1 and the Zoom DJC - www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08BGB8G1V/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A3N3AA9FSEQI1O&psc=1
Coincidentally, I am exactly 5'5" tall and also with 29" inseam too! I have the seat lifted a few inches off the minimum to get full leg extensions while peddling and dismount from the seat at stops. It's my most comfortable way to ride. You should be able to reach the ground if you want to put the Zoom seatpost all the way down with a Cloud 9 on it, but I don't think you'll be flatfooted. The zoom post and cloud 9 add about 2 inches more than the stock seat and post at their lowest point.
Hi Matt, check your yahoo email that is associated with your account that you ordered the post from me. I sent you my contact phone number so you can text or call me. If you prefer to email me for questions, reply to the email I just sent and I can help you that way as well. Thanks!
how did you come up with such a stupid idea to test the saddle for softness. using shock-absorbing pins??? attach an ordinary piece of plywood to the pin with a spring and it will already ride softly and comfortably! you can even see from the video that the cushioning of the saddle does not work !!! since the pin absorbs the entire amplitude of vibrations. and you just liked the saddle with more paralon!!! remove adequate video. with a conventional hard pin. and compare comfort!
Mmmm. The test is actually very real in feeling comfort difference even with a suspension seatpost. You’re right that the comfort of a seat softness may have been amplified better if it was a solid seat post rather than one with some spring in it, but the seat softness is still huge in feeling comfort differences between brands. I guess the seat post springs really work for bigger impacts, but standard ride (non bumpy) feelings are first felt from the softener saddle before bumps get felt later. Sorry, it’s hard to explain, but rest assured the difference between seats feel is significant in the test. Thanks for the feedback!
a comfort test would be better and more objective if external factors affecting comfort are excluded. let only the saddle show comfort. to show your best. another minus of your test: you used different racks! each rack is individual in terms of softness and cushioning. even if you deepen the adjustment nut by the same distance! these are not precision instruments. and for their manufacture different alloys and different hardening of springs are used by different companies. even for the same company. Springs may vary between batches. that will not be a violation during manufacture. and using different racks you could already use somewhere softer, somewhere tighter springs in the racks themselves. which will affect the comfort of the trip. and for this reason it might seem to you that some saddle is softer on bumps, some is rougher. so the only option that can give an assessment of saddle comfort is to use a rigid seatpost. ;) and when the best saddle will be determined. then in combination with a shock-absorbing pin. there will be maximum comfort. :))))) even how tight the plastic stem guide is. and its lubricant. greatly affect the ease of movement of the rod in the pin. and there will already be differences in comfort on bumps. in any case, when using a shock-absorbing pin. only the amount of paralon in the saddle will somehow affect the sensations. and nothing more.
saddle with rubber shock absorber. will be comfortable only on smooth asphalt. a saddle with double springs only works if the rider is very heavy. the only saddle cushioning option that works everywhere is single steel springs.
ZOOM (the manufacturer) rates the maximum recommended weight at 220lbs. I know of riders and others who were heavier and said they didn't have a problem with it, but I am not sure how much spring back it will give even if you tighten the adjustment to it's max.
I bought the White 'bargain seat' (they only had a choice of red or all black when I bought mine) and the Zoom seat post after watching this video. I would rate it as a much larger improvement than he mentioned in the video - A HUGE improvement, IMO.. I chose the bargain seat based on the compliance of it's springs, shown in the video. The Cloud 9 seat's springs look like they were designed for a 400 pound rider as they were not flexing at all and now I know why the Cloud 9 I bought for my last bike was such a waste of money. If you buy this seat and then play around with the spring adjustment in the Zoom post and get it just right for your weight, you will end up with at LEAST a 5X more comfortable ride than the stock seat on the stock seat post . . . . and all for about $50. Certainly the biggest bang for the buck of all the mods I've made to my bike. Kudos for a very well made and very helpful video! - I don't usually run out and buy things based on a single video, but it really paid off this time
Thanks so much for the kind words and feedback! I am glad the video was helpful and I will definitely take your advice and try playing around with the adjustments now. It was such an improvement without adjusting anything, I didn't bother trying. After reading your post, I will try a bunch of different levels. Now that I've been riding a little longer, I agree with you that the Cloud 9 springs don't do as much as the white seat springs do.
Nice review! Just received my XP 2.0 Step-Thru and it’s my favorite ebike so far. I like the size and overall versatility and so far the best value and support. I labored for weeks making a decision on a folder with more power than the XP at a good price. I finally gave up and glad I bought the XP after receiving it. I’m now working on accessorizing the bike but I have to say it really doesn’t need much. Mainly a more comfortable seat and good bike lock to slow down the thieves. Also added a six gallon milk crate on the rear rack for hauling. Lectric is shipping me the comfort seat package included with the Mother’s Day bundle. Waiting to see how comfortable it is and if I will need to improve further with better seat and post. Thanks!
Nice demonstration! I think it would be cool if you did a comparison between the comfort group that you can now order from Electric versus the Cloud 9 and that Zoom post. My bikes are on order, and I ordered that Comfort group with them because I heard of the complaints about the stock seat.
Thank you for the details. Post length was my curiosity for taller riders.
I have bought a 27.2mm shock absorber seat pole and big bum gel spring saddle from ebay to go on my Fortis bike (has same tyres as Lectric)
Those suspension seat posts are great and a softer wider seat definitely makes the ride a more comfy. Thanks for taking the time to comment and share!
Thanks for the review, just ordered a seat using your link.
Awesome, thank you! I really appreciate the support.
I've never liked the 'foam springs', real steel springs are the way to go. Thanks for your review.
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Just out of curiosity sake…. Noticing the compression of the seat post…How much do you weigh, and where did you have the Zoom (6mm) adjustment set??? Screwed in, screwed out, and by how much based on your weight???
I am 172lbs. I have them set at the stock position which is almost flush at the lowest level, maybe a just a few mm in, so basically at the lowest level. I also lifted my feet off the pedal to show it really bouncy as much as possible, but normally it doesn't bounce that much with normal riding as my legs are usually on the pedals taking off a bunch of leg weight during normal riding.
The white seat looks a lot like the puroma suspension saddle
It may actually be the same manufacturer. I got those as samples to see if I might carry them on the website. Still debating if it will be worthwhile. They take up a ton of space and are expensive to ship.
Great video! I did purchase the suspension seat post and the Cloud 9 seat. I am having trouble connecting the 2 together, any advice? There must be something I am missing. Thanks!
I am so sorry this reply is so late. I hope you were able to get the post and seat connected by now. If you weren't able to figure it out, can you explain the difficulty you are having? Maybe I can make a video for you and others that might be having the same difficulty with the attachment.
Sucks that the Zoom seat post is so short. The stock XP seat post is barely long enough for me. I placed an order for 2 of yours but had to cancel after I noticed that they are not long enough for taller riders.
What about the lectric comfort package ????
I was thinking about ordering a Cloud9 seat looking at the reviews since I'm only 155lb, I might Not be heavy enough to feel the difference.
Video was ok, but disappointed you did not give any info on the suspension post. The post and seat go together in my view.
1000% agree. I Should’ve definitely talked some about the posts. Those ZOOM posts are the best and it’s why I decided to start carrying them on my ecommerce store.
If possible please get at least 430 mm length suspension seat post for lectric xp2. Thanks
What is the name of the seat post and seat where the seat can be push forward?
The seat post is called a ZOOM suspension post.
Will this c9 work with my ne lectric xpeak ? And what size of the extension post I will need will it be 31.6 mm ?
The C9 will work with almost any seat post and should be compatible to work with the XPeak. The XPeak has a 31.8mm seatpost diameter and the 31.6mm posts should fit and will just need the bracket tightening screw turned a couple of times.
My bolts on the post broke I need replacement!
What seat and post you recommend for a 6 foot three 275 pound man? Everything seems made for me, but my husband is outside the weight range of everything we were looking at. Ideally post needs to be a bit tall, and max out above the top 250lbs we've found.
I am so sorry, but at this time I don't have any recommendations for riders that tall on a Lectric XP. Is it an option to look for a larger ebike for him with a little more power? It would be a lot more comfortable for him. Something like the Magicycle Cruiser, Snapcycle R1, or Mokwheel Upland. These are all on the larger side and you wouldn't need such a long post. All of them would also be able to flatten hills pretty easily even at 275.
Tell your husband to lose weight
How much side movement is their in the electric suspension upgrade seat, what is the best seat and post you recommend for a person that is 250lbs, thanks
any idea on which folding foot pegs that's compatible to install?
Sorry, I have not looked into folding foot pegs. Thanks for watching and commenting!
What would you recommend for someone who was 125 pounds, 5'7? I am worried about purchasing the wrong option because I want something that would work with my size.
If I gone upgrade my seat today what would.you suggest I have the Letric XP 2.0
I really like the Cloud9. My second choice is the bikeroo seat. I did a comparison video on them here. th-cam.com/video/3XrOn3hB-k0/w-d-xo.html
Is there a specific Post Length I must have for my Lectric XP 2.0 STEP-THRU MODEL
The length is all depends on how tall you are. The ZOOM posts I sell are 31.6mm in diameter and guaranteed to fit all the Lectric 2.0 and 1.0 ebikes and are recommended for those between 5'2" and 6' tall. If you decide to buy another suspension seat post elsewhere, just be sure it is at least 31.6mm diameter up to 31.8 max. I've only tried the 31.6mm, but the stock post on the 1.0 was 31.8mm so that should work on third party posts too.
Very informative video
Thanks! I really appreciate you taking the time to give feedback.
How I added a second battery to my Lectric XP is now showing on youtube
Just watched your video! That was awesome! If anyone reading this wants to see how a second battery was added, check out the video here: th-cam.com/video/X5GGnqpHkHo/w-d-xo.html
Do you happen to have links to where you got all the parts?
Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge! I may end up copying your lesson and do a video on it as well (if you don't mind). I will be sure to give you all the credit as I would not have thought about doing it as I usually don't like touching electrical stuff that I could end up blowing up, but you definitely made it seem quite easy.
@@EbikeProducts I dont mind. I dont know how to link sorry. message me on my vid if you have more questions ill be happy to help you or take pics of the packages of the parts I dont do electric etc either but my friend showed me how a year ago and its worked great, Privately we've shown dozens people how and they love it too ,,so simple
Which tools do you use to apply the seat on the post?
Will that zoom post work for taller riders. I’m 6 foot.
Sorry, I do not recommend the post for riders 6ft or taller who like to have full leg extension when they ride. Some people at 6ft don’t mind it, but I think it’s best to get a post that can go higher.
Thanks!
Which seat post you recommend that is long? Thanks
Sorry, I haven't tested or researched any other seat posts. Some of the others on the market are soo expensive I wasn't able to buy any to test. If I do get a chance to get my hands on any other brands, I'll definitely make a video of it.
Will this seat post work on the xp lite also?
Yes! Thankfully, Lectric is using the same post sizes on all their bikes.
good job !
Thanks! I really appreciate the support!
I grabbed a seat on amazon for just under $30. Thanks
Awesome! I'll be doing a suspension post giveaway in my next video. Be sure to comment on that video when it comes out to get a chance to win! Thanks for watching and commenting!
How does the Zoom seat post compare to the Lectric suspension post?
I’m not sure about the performance differences of the posts, but a big difference is the length. The Zoom posts is too short for anyone over 6 feet tall who wants full leg extension when riding. Check out Jeremiah McIntosh’s channel. He has a great video comparing them (and maybe even more than just those 2)
@@EbikeProducts I'm 6'2.5", but I have a long torso. When I bought my mountain bike, I was looking at one model and the salesman told me not to bother, that I was too short for that bike. First time I'd ever been called short in my life. He meant that my legs were proportionately short for my height, so maybe the Zoom will work.
Excellent video!! I have the Cloud 9 and I love it, but after seeing your video I kind of like the white one.
The Cloud 9 was definitely a little more soft when I focused on what I was feeling. I now realize that most of the time the white seat is comfortable enough that I don't have any discomfort so I don't even think about what seat I have on. Since it is about 2 pounds lighter, I will be using the white seat more to save that little extra weight to get a little more battery life. I know it's not a lot to make a difference by itself, but when I put all the accessories and stuff that adds extra weight together, that 2 pounds may help to squeeze out maybe a mile or two when I really need it or if the battery dies and I need to manpower pedal my way home.
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A very good video
Thank you very much! I appreciate you watching and commenting.
Hello, what is the difference (besides about $10) btw the zoom IDY -
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07SHSV6ZV/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A25SU2U3DED2JB&th=1 and the Zoom DJC - www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08BGB8G1V/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A3N3AA9FSEQI1O&psc=1
How tall are you? Would the zoom and cloud work for a 5'5 guy with 29" inseam?
Coincidentally, I am exactly 5'5" tall and also with 29" inseam too! I have the seat lifted a few inches off the minimum to get full leg extensions while peddling and dismount from the seat at stops. It's my most comfortable way to ride. You should be able to reach the ground if you want to put the Zoom seatpost all the way down with a Cloud 9 on it, but I don't think you'll be flatfooted. The zoom post and cloud 9 add about 2 inches more than the stock seat and post at their lowest point.
I want to talk to customer support
Hi Matt, check your yahoo email that is associated with your account that you ordered the post from me. I sent you my contact phone number so you can text or call me. If you prefer to email me for questions, reply to the email I just sent and I can help you that way as well. Thanks!
Yep..YeP!!😊😎👊👍😚👌🤙💯!!
Merci Canada M.T.L Québec love
That first seat looks like a log splitter. Ouch.
😂
🖐
It should have rear suspension!
how did you come up with such a stupid idea to test the saddle for softness. using shock-absorbing pins???
attach an ordinary piece of plywood to the pin with a spring and it will already ride softly and comfortably!
you can even see from the video that the cushioning of the saddle does not work !!!
since the pin absorbs the entire amplitude of vibrations.
and you just liked the saddle with more paralon!!!
remove adequate video. with a conventional hard pin. and compare comfort!
Mmmm. The test is actually very real in feeling comfort difference even with a suspension seatpost. You’re right that the comfort of a seat softness may have been amplified better if it was a solid seat post rather than one with some spring in it, but the seat softness is still huge in feeling comfort differences between brands. I guess the seat post springs really work for bigger impacts, but standard ride (non bumpy) feelings are first felt from the softener saddle before bumps get felt later. Sorry, it’s hard to explain, but rest assured the difference between seats feel is significant in the test. Thanks for the feedback!
a comfort test would be better and more objective if external factors affecting comfort are excluded. let only the saddle show comfort.
to show your best.
another minus of your test: you used different racks!
each rack is individual in terms of softness and cushioning. even if you deepen the adjustment nut by the same distance!
these are not precision instruments. and for their manufacture different alloys and different hardening of springs are used by different companies. even for the same company. Springs may vary between batches. that will not be a violation during manufacture.
and using different racks you could already use somewhere softer, somewhere tighter springs in the racks themselves. which will affect the comfort of the trip.
and for this reason it might seem to you that some saddle is softer on bumps, some is rougher.
so the only option that can give an assessment of saddle comfort is to use a rigid seatpost. ;)
and when the best saddle will be determined. then in combination with a shock-absorbing pin. there will be maximum comfort.
:)))))
even how tight the plastic stem guide is. and its lubricant. greatly affect the ease of movement of the rod in the pin. and there will already be differences in comfort on bumps.
in any case, when using a shock-absorbing pin. only the amount of paralon in the saddle will somehow affect the sensations. and nothing more.
saddle with rubber shock absorber. will be comfortable only on smooth asphalt.
a saddle with double springs only works if the rider is very heavy.
the only saddle cushioning option that works everywhere is single steel springs.
What is the maximum rider weight for the suspension seat post?
ZOOM (the manufacturer) rates the maximum recommended weight at 220lbs. I know of riders and others who were heavier and said they didn't have a problem with it, but I am not sure how much spring back it will give even if you tighten the adjustment to it's max.