Why Suspension Seatposts Are The ULTIMATE Comfort Upgrade!

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  • Here is my completely over-the-top resource outlining the best suspension seatposts.
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    BEST Spring Suspension Seatposts (affiliate links send me a small commission for my work):
    - Kinekt Spring Post - 25.4, 27.2, 30.9, 31.6mm - amzn.to/3xIRJWj
    - Kinekt Carbon Lightweight Post - 27.2mm - amzn.to/3eb5PrH
    - Redshift Shockstop - 27.2mm (shims available) - amzn.to/3tkl5qp
    - By.schulz G.2 - amzn.to/3tthIgX
    - Cheap SR Suntour NCX - 27.2mm - amzn.to/33rkcC1
    - Cheap SR Suntour NCX - 30.9mm - amzn.to/3uvWi45
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    BEST Elastomer Suspension Seatposts (affiliate links send me a small commission for my work):
    - Cane Creek 50mm Thudbuster - 27.2mm - amzn.to/3nXvMOE
    - Cane Creek 50mm Thudbuster - 30.9mm - amzn.to/3nZY6A6
    - Cane Creek 50mm Thudbuster - 31.6mm - amzn.to/2Q6kHi0
    - Cane Creek 90mm Travel - 27.2mm - amzn.to/3xToDDI
    - Cane Creek 90mm Travel - 30.9mm - amzn.to/3xQD3Vf
    - Cane Creek 90mm Travel - 31.6mm - amzn.to/3exa7Km
    - Cane Creek 20mm eeSilk (what I currently use) -
    BEST Dropper Suspension Seatpost (affiliate links send me a small commission for my work):
    PNW Coast - 30.9, 31.6mm - amzn.to/3vF0uPe
    Microbac seatpost lab test: www.bikeradar.com/features/fi...
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    0:00 - Intro
    0:49 - 6 Reasons To Use Suspension Seatposts
    2:30 - 4 Reasons To NOT Use Suspension Seatposts
    3:14 - Damping & Deflection
    3:57 - Dangers of High Vibration Exposure
    4:53 - The Three Different Seatpost Damping Systems
    6:29 - The Two Different Seatpost Designs
    7:17 - Seatpost Field Testing Data
    8:21 - How To Choose The Suspension Travel
    9:07 - Best Spring Seatposts
    11:09 - Best Elastomer Seatposts
    11:51 - Best Dropper Suspension Seatposts
    12:38 - Summary
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  • @Cyclingabout
    @Cyclingabout  3 ปีที่แล้ว +238

    Suspension seatposts are the bee's knees! 🐝The duck's nuts! 🦆The cat's pyjamas! 🐈 The dog's bollocks! 🐕The fox' socks! 🦊
    Ok, I'll stop...

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@solitaryrefinement6787 Let them ride in discomfort! 😅

    • @K1989L
      @K1989L 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      What about suspension saddles? Brooks b67? Flyer?

    • @jacobkeller29
      @jacobkeller29 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Please, go on....

    • @solitaryrefinement6787
      @solitaryrefinement6787 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Cyclingabout I'm a firm believer in ultraRIGHT over ultralight personally. While I ride a 15lb wonder bike that I could easily take down to 14, why? At 15, she's my definition of bombproof and she won't be breaking parts on the road.
      In the end, a 14lb bike that isn't reliable is a 14lb anchor when you have to toss it in the back of a car to get a ride home. And for my steel bike? 18lbs is damn good. While I immediately began to weenieize it, I stopped myself. Honestly, for how I ride, I can't really discern it from my 16lb aluminum bike or my 15lb carbon bike.
      After a while, like Tom Cruise in "Risky Business", sometimes, you just gotta say, "What the..." and forget the numbers and just enjoy a perfectly functioning, shifting, rolling bike for what it is.

    • @HD-yq9jx
      @HD-yq9jx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@solitaryrefinement6787 average 750 grams

  • @SYLVAINDURAND77
    @SYLVAINDURAND77 3 ปีที่แล้ว +661

    I can only imagine the amount of work you spend gathering the information and then make a video that's summarize it all. Really impressive!

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Many thanks! This one has been a huge project - testing multiple posts, thinking about the physics, finding the data, weighing up the pros and cons. 👍🏻

    • @Cyclonut96
      @Cyclonut96 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Why not include a major bike mfr TREK, they specifically developed shock absorbing seat post....?

    • @josephhorton85
      @josephhorton85 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yep ... what he said ... ditto!

    • @brauljo
      @brauljo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Cyclonut96 You mean like isospeed?

    • @ididnotkilljfk861
      @ididnotkilljfk861 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That reaearch must have take all of 5 nano seconds ! Seatpost suspension is a road to back, hip and knee pain !

  • @messenger8279
    @messenger8279 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I just saw this and remembered I made one of these as a kid back in the 70s. It was a car engine valve spring , and one tube that fitted inside another. A role pin went through both to stop it rotating. really simple and made riding very smooth off rd or along a bumpy footpath. Cost me nothing to make.

  • @jackhargreaves1911
    @jackhargreaves1911 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    A superb video. I suffer acute chronic pain after my back was broken four years ago (it has since been fused twice). Suspension seat posts are the difference between my riding or never riding again (even after optimising wheels, tyres, pressures, saddle, handlebars etc). Your video helped me enormously. Thank you.

  • @charithaellapola2285
    @charithaellapola2285 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Thanks for the elaborate & independent research. You've put in considerable work indeed.

  • @cheftt6863
    @cheftt6863 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Of the great number of bicycle touring guys on here, this guy is truly worth watching and deserves support. I found most others to be more of useless content fillers and scammers. Their videos offer nothing.
    There is even a guy that all he does is this:
    -cycle to a mountain
    -walk up the mountain
    -walk down
    -cycle back to a van
    -cook a chicken
    -unashamedly thank supporters for keeping him out of the factory.

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the support!

    • @Grefenius
      @Grefenius 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Foresty Forest.

    • @henrykuppens9097
      @henrykuppens9097 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The one and only Foresty Forest.

  • @Biking360
    @Biking360 3 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    When I was deciding on the set-up of my touring bike I referenced a lot of your online material that is quite frankly head and shoulders above anything else out there. This channel is similarly outstanding. The information is well presented, relevant, and in-depth. A great job guys.

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thanks so much. I always strive to create the best info out there, so it's nice to hear you like it!

    • @Biking360
      @Biking360 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Cyclingabout Your content is exceptional. Well done lad.

    • @gopackgo4036
      @gopackgo4036 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Cyclingabout They way you get right to the point, no nonsense, is great. Your analysis of the mechanics makes me think you have a masters in ME or CivE. Just very well done.

  • @nicpurton
    @nicpurton 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Superb video, very informative! I've been using suspension seatposts for the last 20 years, mainly the telescopic variety from USE and currently have one on my road bike and one on my hardtail MTB. Definitely going to give one of the linkage / spring versions a go soon based on your recommendations! Thank you 😊

  • @szwagijer
    @szwagijer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    this is perfect bicycle channel for me on youtube, not about the newest and most expensive bikes or the lighest. just practice information and comprassion by experienced man for people who want to "eat kilometers" . subscribed after 1 video! good content and execution

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for the kind words!

  • @thedownhillerboy
    @thedownhillerboy ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I trully think the suspension seatpost market is clearly gaining momentum right now as this segment is being picked up a lot by people in the last years.I myself have been wanting to get me a spring/air/elastometer suspension seatpost for my street training adapted dirt jumper, didn't knew much yet until I get to watch this video which revealed itself to be full with useful information on the several suspension seatpost systems in the market right now.Thanks for sharing the video and all the info in it, best regards from a Portuguese🇵🇹downhiller to you uploader 🙂👍🏻.

  • @davomccranko
    @davomccranko 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Seat choice also has a huge influence on the amount of suspension you have. My Fizik Arione wing flex, flexes beautifully. The combination of saddle, post, frame, wheel and tire flex combine to create the Shangri-la of rider butt bliss.

    • @0xsergy
      @0xsergy ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't know if all split saddles are like mine but the Serfas RX flexes really nicely. Bought it for a hardtail mtb and it has a decent amount of travel. I would check out all split saddles because i assume most will flex a bunch. the middle plastic allows a ton of movement on mine anyway

    • @1zaimundo
      @1zaimundo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@0xsergy Ive gone noseless, and despite the loss of control and the breaking in period, I can't ever look back.

  • @porqpai7082
    @porqpai7082 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Thank you for introducing me to this! I never knew this was even a thing!

  • @YewtBoot
    @YewtBoot 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the effort to research and publish this valuable information. I had already gotten a suspension seatpost for my Ti frame road/touring bike. Your results show that I made the correct choice for the type of riding I do the most. Thanks.

  • @jamesmoros1274
    @jamesmoros1274 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    A stem suspension and Long travel 50mm suspension post has kept me riding, after 45 years on bicycles I’m still to see a new idea that hasn’t been done. Good review by the way.

    • @maxspies8908
      @maxspies8908 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i have it for like 10 years on my bike. it is'nt very new. but love it on my hard tail.

    • @MB-jz3uu
      @MB-jz3uu ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's cuz it soaks up a lot of energy that would otherwise be transferred into your pedaling.

  • @nathanblomgren1304
    @nathanblomgren1304 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have a RockShox Reverb dropper post on my full-suspension mountain bike. After a couple years of use, I noticed that when fully extended, it was no longer totally locked in position - it would bob a bit when I put my weight on it. The guy at the bike shop said it always happens to the Reverb and can't be economically repaired. So, I raised my seat post by a centimeter, so that the seat height is still correct when I'm sitting on it. And now I have an amazing suspension-slash-dropper seat post all in one. I just hope it doesn't deteriorate further because it is now perfect.

  • @PeterU.D.L.
    @PeterU.D.L. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Wow! What an impressive, well researched, organized, produced, and informative video! Well done sir.

  • @JDJoeil
    @JDJoeil ปีที่แล้ว

    Found your channel a couple days ago. Your Videos are so well thought out and informative. Seeing that you bike a lot and everywhere, it's also easy to trust you. Thanks!

  • @jimthompson717
    @jimthompson717 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I bought the Suntour NCX yesterday for my 2021 Trek Powerfly 4. It doesn't bob, or bounce, but softens the jolts on rocky trails, down curbs, and occasional stairs. Money well spent, relative to the cost of the bike.

  • @goobfilmcast4239
    @goobfilmcast4239 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I am a big guy and have a Fat tire e-bike. I do a lot off-road and horse trail riding...front forks help immensely but it was the addition of a Cane Creek Thudbuster (elastomer-type) that made all the difference in ride comfort

    • @ffdragis
      @ffdragis 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      thanks for the tip on the elastomer type Thudbuster.
      would you mind sharing what fat tire e bike you have? ive been searching for days.. im a big guy 300lb

  • @marcalvarez4890
    @marcalvarez4890 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hands down, you make the best biking information videos online.
    Aloha from Hawaii, and thank you!

  • @dalerobson5084
    @dalerobson5084 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the best and most concise group review format videos. Thanks

  • @johnsuarez1404
    @johnsuarez1404 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I really like how you you divided the video into sections because I revisited it to look at the different types and that made it a lot easier to find exactly what I wanted to know again

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Great to hear the timestamps helped!

  • @NinthwaveThe
    @NinthwaveThe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wow! What a comprehensive presentation.

  • @alchemist.3
    @alchemist.3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You are a blessing to the true cyclists out there... You videos are down to earth and realistic. Many cycling channels are nothing but Teleshopping Network of Cycling. They compare very very expensive component with very very very expensive one and recommend why you should go for a very very very expensive product. If you don't then you are not a cyclist.
    Keep up the good work.

  • @Karl-pq1di
    @Karl-pq1di 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is a super impressive video. Thank you so much for compiling all of this information - very, very informative.

  • @lightdark00
    @lightdark00 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I am very happy with my Cane Creek Thudbuster(elastomer) for city, trail, and gravel use. Riding concrete trails the gap bumps were so annoying before. Made a huge difference for me.

    • @tylerfields2368
      @tylerfields2368 ปีที่แล้ว

      In the video he said spring damped would be for slow and off road and for rougher road surfaces. And the elastomer for smoother roads and suspension bob. What made you choose the elastomer cane creek? What bike do you have? I'm indecisive, I have a giant cypress hybrid bike and ride rough asphalt city roads and bumpy bike trails with lots of bumps, incline and decline, and gravel. Main rides to work daily are 15 min. Commutes, but summer riding is 2-3 hour rides

    • @lightdark00
      @lightdark00 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tylerfields2368 When I bought it, I went for best result for the money. Cane Creek even shipped me new screws with barrels, as mine bent with time. Probably a bad batch, because the replacements show no sign of weakness.
      Basically I wanted the least travel and to knock off the spike of the motion. No back complaints after the seat post change. The bike in question was a big box hybrid, just front suspension fork, and nothing for the back, otherwise.
      The real question is do you want more movement that changes the distance from the pedal to the seat, or do you want something that takes the hard edge off of riding?

    • @tylerfields2368
      @tylerfields2368 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lightdark00 something that takes the hard edge off riding, while maintaining fast speeds. Also what type of saddle is compatible with this?

    • @lightdark00
      @lightdark00 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tylerfields2368 I don't see why any saddle would be incompatible. Of course the more free space under the saddle, the easier it is to put on.
      As for speed, there's never been a time that the seat made me question it. Just to note, I do have the short travel version, which did put the joy back in cycling long distances and jumping curbs.

    • @tylerfields2368
      @tylerfields2368 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lightdark00 yeah I do long distance riding, 70 miles, average or more, when headed to beach 2-3 hour commutes. After a hour with my seatpost and saddle, even with bike shorts, I'm sore. I'm 5'10 and 185-191 lbs. / Bike is size medium/l. I hear the short travel is for shorter riders?

  • @ericpeysar2593
    @ericpeysar2593 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Great info here for sure. One consideration for fat bikes if i may. I like a suspension seat post on my fat bike. When you pedal you can get an ever magnifying bounce in the tires at lower pressures. If you activate some flex in the suspension seat post, it seems to change the wavelength between oscillations, and cancels out the tire bob.

    • @lorenyager8271
      @lorenyager8271 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      One other issue with fat bikes is that many of us ride these on snowy trails where people hike, and these are always bumpy. Lowering the air pressure to 3-4 lbs works but is a drag when going back on hard surfaces. So you can bring a mini electric pump or get one of these seatposts.

  • @Iamkayaky
    @Iamkayaky 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The spring loaded seatpost I use on my eFat with 5" tires makes for a very satisfying ride on gravel, trails and bumpy city paths.

  • @serg_skkver
    @serg_skkver 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Riding on suspension seatpost for three years. It is a game changer for me!

  • @fredmaldonado9204
    @fredmaldonado9204 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you so very much for explaining the different seat post.

  • @charlesjames4194
    @charlesjames4194 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Solid research and good video documentation. Thanks for making a web page as well. My sound was out and it helped me make my purchasing decision. SOLD

  • @markpayne4274
    @markpayne4274 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Jones LWB - already a super-comfortable bike, two improvements I can certainly recommend… 80mm redshift shockstop stem; and a Cane creek eesilk seatpost. Now that’s perfect.

  • @briankimtaborek713
    @briankimtaborek713 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, thought I'd research this topic by watching many videos etc. and found this one does it all. Excellent review! Thanks

  • @Archi2g
    @Archi2g 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video, thank you. I’ve been eyeballing the canyon one for a while

  • @smitajky
    @smitajky 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    One thing you overlooked was the sprung seat. These have been around for over a hundred years and were common enough because roads were once a lot rougher than we expect today. When vinyl became available in the mid 60s those seats had multiple fore aft springing under the seat and two large rear springs. These were intended to do a similar job to a suspension seat post. It seems strange to use the suspension post with a light and scarcely padded seat.

    • @yanami1241
      @yanami1241 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I use such a seat plus a suspension post on my bike and its really comfortable even on really bumpy roads. It can just get really bouncy sometimes.

    • @philhunt1442
      @philhunt1442 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      how much do these springed setups weigh?

    • @MB-jz3uu
      @MB-jz3uu ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Those seats weigh like 8x as much as scarcely padded seats.

    • @estebanleacho9315
      @estebanleacho9315 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@philhunt1442 watch the video ,it says in there

    • @philhunt1442
      @philhunt1442 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@estebanleacho9315 Oh, I thought the commenter was referring to the old school spring seats, not the modern spring based suspension seats which were included in the video

  • @johncotter8434
    @johncotter8434 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I recently acquired a straightforward spring-type suspension post, unbranded and quite worn where it slides. The extra comfort has been a revelation, especially on gravel roads. The downside is that it creaks with almost every turn of the pedals, even though the bike it came off was little used. Replacement needed. Thanks Alee for the excellent review of the market.

  • @Mookd0g1
    @Mookd0g1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great work on this. Super clear, thorough and detailed. Thanks for posting.

  • @cherepaha3
    @cherepaha3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I was thinking to myself that it would be great if someone made suspended dropper post as I wanted dropper but didn't want to resign from my suspension seat post. Here are 3 models. Very informative video

  • @patrykblog
    @patrykblog 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Yesterday I've started thinking that probably you stopped preparing videos for youtube but as we can see - I was wrong. Good stuff

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Lots more videos to come!

    • @patrykblog
      @patrykblog 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Cyclingabout would you recommend the eeSilk for bikepacking trip around the world or does it require a lot of maintenance over time?

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Highly recommended! I only apply a little lube to mine every six months or so.

    • @patrykblog
      @patrykblog 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Cyclingabout ok, so maintenance frequency same as for Brooks saddle. Nice. Thank you, I needed this information :)

  • @OPET_EV
    @OPET_EV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well done 👍
    One of the best invents that I've ever seen

  • @diggiediggz
    @diggiediggz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been riding with a cane creek LT for years now and love it.

  • @Stelios.Posantzis
    @Stelios.Posantzis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Fantastic review!
    Could you please also do one for sprung seats? Especially, one comparing sprung seats with suspension seat posts? It'd be interesting to see what you get for the same weight or price penalty.

    • @oleg72333
      @oleg72333 ปีที่แล้ว

      I tried to find a narrow spring saddle but couldn't. Are they produced at all?

    • @Stelios.Posantzis
      @Stelios.Posantzis ปีที่แล้ว

      @@oleg72333 I don't think I've ever seen a narrow seat that comes with springs. They are invariably either wide, very wide or ultra-wide (and weigh as much as some bike frames on their own).

    • @oleg72333
      @oleg72333 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@Stelios.Posantzis that's why I made my own narrow spring seat out of 2 others for my hardtail. Very happy with it. Lightweight and good absorption

  • @phooongtion
    @phooongtion 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Def buying one, i never knew i needed one but this makes 1000% sense to cop one. Thanks for introducing in a friendly and informative way. Cheers

  • @hoodio
    @hoodio 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    starting a video with why you don't need what is shown in the video is just incredible for building trust, in-your-face honesty 👍

  • @CactusJackSlade
    @CactusJackSlade 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Nice video, thanks. Personally if I'm going to add the weight of a suspension post I prefer a combo dropper/suspension post like the PNW Coast Suspension dropper :-) You make a valid point on the angle of a shaft type suspension vs a "levered" type, but I only need it to work on the compression hits not so much on the small stuff - and it keeps my saddle height the same most of the time.

  • @stevenr5149
    @stevenr5149 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks!! The best reviews/comparisons in the business.

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm glad you think so! 😊

  • @TayyarePilotuOfficial
    @TayyarePilotuOfficial 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You are scientist of cycling/bikepacking world. You prevent me from going blind by examining 200 different sources for 10 hours in order to get answers to the questions I'm curious about. Nearly an article.

  • @stefanhansen5882
    @stefanhansen5882 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was amazing! I am going back to biking and want to build my own fixed gear bicycle. This helped me decide on a seat post. Thanks!

  • @StanEby1
    @StanEby1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So glad to see another of your videos. No one does it as well as you. Thanks.

  • @evanwert2530
    @evanwert2530 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Very well done video! Great info and even though you prefer the eesilk, we at Kinekt ( Cirrus Cycles), support and thank you for the overview of suspension! Thanks, Evan Wert

  • @vanillabear1177
    @vanillabear1177 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    never thought I could need this, but this video was so impressive, that I'll check my bike shop - nice work

  • @shughy1
    @shughy1 ปีที่แล้ว

    The best video on the internet explaining them all, much appreciated 👍

  • @valeraanovsk1468
    @valeraanovsk1468 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Would be amazing if big travel suspension posts had the ability to lock out through some sort of lever on the bar - when you go from rough terrain to a smooth road or vice versa. Or at least on the post itself

    • @keithstewart7514
      @keithstewart7514 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sounds like you need a HaiBike, 5000 miles plus on my own. Lever adjustable rock shocks.

    • @jcam4071
      @jcam4071 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You might need to replay the video and stop more or less at the middle, there´s a mention to PNW Components, they have a product that is a suspension seatpost and a dropper post at the same time with the functionality you ask for

  • @benoittissier58
    @benoittissier58 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent information.

  • @1zaimundo
    @1zaimundo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow. What a concise and well put together video. Bravo.

  • @diegoalvarado1771
    @diegoalvarado1771 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your channel is one of the most helpful, information dense resources I have turned to while building my first touring bike. Thank you, just bought a redshift suspension seatpost.

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm really glad to hear! Many thanks.

  • @luke_fabis
    @luke_fabis ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I'm a little surprised there isn't a spring suspension with a damper to control the rebound speed. In theory, that should give you the most control over the suspension's characteristics, since the spring and damper can both be adjusted.

  • @TRUEiMPROrecords
    @TRUEiMPROrecords 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I love the old wide saddles with giant springs that those vintage women's bikes have.. Boi-oi-oi-iingg...

    • @Lughnerson
      @Lughnerson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah, what about them compared to the suspension seatposts?

    • @ClockworksOfGL
      @ClockworksOfGL 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Brooks Flyer FTW.

  • @Alley00Cat
    @Alley00Cat ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a heavy non-suspension e-cargo bike and thought I was doomed to absorb all heavy road bumps. This is so brilliant!!! Getting one

  • @emiledaudet5255
    @emiledaudet5255 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a great rundown about this subject. Good work sir.

  • @panchoxbrr301
    @panchoxbrr301 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Every time I watch one of your videos, it's over far too soon. Great job.
    Have a Cane Creek ST on my Troll...it's awesome.

  • @dalevalentine9008
    @dalevalentine9008 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great post. I have been considering one for my hardtail salsa

  • @zodiacfml
    @zodiacfml 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    not into biking for decades but he is on-point with comments also his last recommendation. I think the elastics is the all around solution since a rider can easily anticipate a more bumpy or rougher ride unlike smoother surfaces with smaller, unanticipated vibrations

  • @STEVEWONDA1976
    @STEVEWONDA1976 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I purchased an NCX directly through Sr Suntour's online store this same time last year. I got it for my quality hardtail MTB. I love it. I mainly ride from my home on streets to trails in my area, some pretty rough. When the post is adjusted properly it works wonderfully. You don't want it too loose or too tight. It is heavy but worth it if you ask me. Be prepared to take it apart often to clean and grease it as it can become creaky, usually seeming like something else on your bike is acting up but after a cleaning & greasing the noises stop. You can usually find a promo/coupon code for SR Suntour stuff and they ship free. I think I only paid about $80 USD total for mine shipped.

  • @MaximC
    @MaximC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Never knew about such thing. Thank you, very useful video, I'd definitely add this to my city bicycle.

  • @henrykuppens9097
    @henrykuppens9097 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I use the Kinekt spring post for years now on a Surly ecr 29+ , and in my view it also compensates for the bouncing of the big tyres to, and of cause absorbs vibrations. A bicycle to explore hidden corners in my country.
    I also use them on an E-bike and on an other regular (travel) bike because of the comfort it gives.
    So I have 3 in use. They are expensive but it's worth the money when it gives good riding comfort.
    Nice review, I really enjoy reading your guide and this kind of technical explanations.
    I'm retired now (63) and can enjoy bicycling full time now.
    I live in the Netherlands, a champion in bicycle roads and luckily also enough off road possibility's.
    All my bicycles need to have reasonable off road capability's.
    The heavy lifting, traveling the world, that I leave to you.

  • @leopaulhan
    @leopaulhan ปีที่แล้ว

    Your channel is amazing ! Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us 🙏🏻

  • @solarwind907
    @solarwind907 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good info! Taking care of your vertebrae makes a lot of sense! Thank you very much sir!

  • @richardharker2775
    @richardharker2775 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    After coming off a weekend of gravel riding I'm thanking my Redshift seat post.

  • @marcelknop1
    @marcelknop1 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Great review. One consideration to take in to account would be the potential effect on the knees of the seat changing height when pedalling. I know from personal experience that if a seat post is even 3mm too low, my knees pain terribly to the extent that I can't cycle. Get the seat post height spot on and the problem immediately disappears. I can imagine that the sprung seat post changing height over bumps and under load of pedalling could potentially affect the knees.

    • @chow-chihuang4903
      @chow-chihuang4903 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The telescoping, pogo-stick style definitely tweaks the knees when compressing. The linkage style moves the saddle backwards as it moves down, moving the saddle in kind of an arc, rather than towards the bottom bracket, and it feels much easier on my knees.

  • @chuchuchip
    @chuchuchip 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Found this very informative. I'm thinking about one of these seat posts for my grocery getter, which what I ride the most now that I'm retired. You provided the most & best information, more than some of the manufacturers. Thank you!

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @gcprost
    @gcprost 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for all the research you did on this.

  • @eBikeaholic
    @eBikeaholic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Agreed, thanks for sharing this! I'm really happy with my Sr Suntour NCX so far. My diy commuter eBike does 40 mph, and paired with some slightly wider puncture resistant tires (40c) there's no need for heavy, expensive, bouncy frame suspension for gravel / road car replacement.

  • @meganoobbg3387
    @meganoobbg3387 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    For 30$ i got a 50 year old urban bike with 3 spring suspension leather saddle. On a long trip even thou it weighs more than my collegues road bikes, i actually experienced less fatigue than them. They blew me away at first, but two hours later i caught up to them panting with sore as$ and backpain. Turns out comfort is more benefitial than aerodinamics or weight.

  • @jondo1830
    @jondo1830 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I took your advice and installed the Cane Creek 20mm eeSilk. I'm very impressed. Thanks for your videos and this recommendation.

  • @denisobrien699
    @denisobrien699 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant overview. Told me everything I wanted to know and I learnt a lot as well !

  • @SingleTrackMined
    @SingleTrackMined 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love a good suspension seatpost. The one I've found to be best is USE - Ultimate Sports Engineering - though I don't know if they still make them. I don't like the ones that just bounce but USE have effective damping so I never feel it. Ever. It just does its job. The efficiency improvement from being able to sit and spin more than makes up for any weight penalty.

    • @wolfgangmuller9661
      @wolfgangmuller9661 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Use is an innovative company in seat posts. For years I have been riding two USE Sumo Titan in 27.2, which weigh 200 grams. They flex away all the small bumps without changing the measure of the lenger or the pedals. In rough terrain I use a g2 by fault on my hardtails and an older Cane Creek Thudbuster LT that I think is even better

  • @helgeschydlo7346
    @helgeschydlo7346 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Very informative report.
    But what about saving my wrists?In my opinion they are at least stressed as much as my butt.

  • @phuygen
    @phuygen 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The best review I've seen on this. Great video.

  • @drumnbreakz
    @drumnbreakz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At this point, I just want to hug you. Amazed by the quality of your videos!

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow, thank you! I accept hugs as a form of reciprocity. 🤗

  • @arfarzam
    @arfarzam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Seriously underrated channel.

    • @ididnotkilljfk861
      @ididnotkilljfk861 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Don't you mean OVERRATED give the misinformation provided

  • @dahak972
    @dahak972 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I love how you science the sh*t out of these questions. ✌️😎

  • @MotoAventuras125
    @MotoAventuras125 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video is as good as a documentary film. Thanks very much for this awesome work.

  • @TheSpaceBrosShow
    @TheSpaceBrosShow 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The redshift post is heckin awesome. Installed one on my dad's daily commuter and he now loves going over the cobblestone bits.

    • @grantadamson3478
      @grantadamson3478 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agree. I installed one about 8 months ago. It smooths out almost all harsh vibrations. I also have the redshift stem system and that also works really well. I do a lot of MTB riding and these have made riding much more comfortable.

  • @iamiyo
    @iamiyo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great work and thank you for the lessons too. I ride my 115kgs in a trekking upright position on a Brooks Imperial Flyer saddle (springs+cutout). Have you had any experiences with that type of sprung saddle? If so, then would an elastomer post and rigid saddle be a similar comfort on road/gravel surfaces? Please stay safe.

  • @maciejwewior3296
    @maciejwewior3296 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Great video, very informative. There's just one thing unanswered - how long do they last? For example, @cyclingabout is there a km limit for the Cane Creek after which you have to change the rubber insert? Are they good for a long-term/distance bike travel?

    • @beaterbikechannel2538
      @beaterbikechannel2538 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bushings, I'm not sure. Hopefully it's all rebuildable. Service it every six months. I'd imagine when they get sloppy they'll drive you nuts. Telescope type, again keep it clean.

    • @stevenleslie8557
      @stevenleslie8557 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I've owned the Cane Creek seat post. It was great, very cushy, but I would do some bumpy MTB riding. After a few months, I had to replace the elastimer because I was always blowing them out.

    • @Llamabanger
      @Llamabanger ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! I was wondering just this☺

  • @ketansaart1546
    @ketansaart1546 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good information. I have attached telescopic seat post suspention. Works great after tuning its strength.

  • @keepontreking3661
    @keepontreking3661 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great instructional video, just about to try out my first shockstop seatpost

  • @MCKNEW77
    @MCKNEW77 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Curious as to the longevity of these while on tour. Do you find them to wear out and need replacement at some point? Have you found the need for any special maintenance while on long tours? If they break can they still be used as a seat until able to fix or replace? Thank you!

    • @alrightgeeza4216
      @alrightgeeza4216 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I've had a Suntour NCX on my commute bike for about 4 years. The most maintenance i have done to it in that time, is routine cleaning and oil. The spring mechanism is mechanically very simple and touch wood it has never let me down. The improvement in comfort cannot be understated. That said, I do not rack up thousands of miles every year and weight is not an issue for me. My commute is 40km return journey and over that time I've probably averaged twice a week on mostly sealed paths/roads. I'm 90kg and over 6ft and the NCX has performed flawlessly for me all this time. I guess it doesn't really answer your question on constant use over long periods, but periodic use over a really long time, it's been flawless. I imagine the one thing that might cause it to break is if you try to ride really big hits while seated. But if you do that, your butt won't like you any more than your seat post will.

  • @NaeMuckle
    @NaeMuckle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I remember the first time I road using suspension seat post. I went down the usual road on my way to work... And nothing. I felt nothing, no rattles no jolts, nothing.

  • @JTTechie
    @JTTechie 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing video! It's so well researched and presented. Thank you!

  • @waqashussain736
    @waqashussain736 ปีที่แล้ว

    OMG sooo much knowledge. You definitely know what your talking about. Definitely worth subscribing.

  • @amoes1824
    @amoes1824 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Maybe a video about the suspension on the stem ?

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It's coming! I have a lot to say... 😊

    • @positiivi_teme
      @positiivi_teme 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Cyclingabout i was hoping for a mention about using suspension seatposts (or stems) with bike luggage and how it will affect it.
      Edit: perhaps you could cover that in the next one? 😁

    • @richardpowell3266
      @richardpowell3266 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      My prediction: suspension stems dangerously compromise handling so don’t use them. Lesson learned by the mountain bike industry in the early 90’s.

    • @richardpowell3266
      @richardpowell3266 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also adjust your riding position so your elbows are always a bit bent. Bonus: you will never go over the bars again when you hit a bigger obstacle.

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@richardpowell3266 I've been using one for a year and it doesn't change the handling at all.

  • @Liljoozy
    @Liljoozy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    How do the suspension seatpost work with rear seat bags though

    • @andri_ju
      @andri_ju 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      have the same question, but did not succeed to find an answer..

  • @KhalilHabashi
    @KhalilHabashi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video explains exactly the differences, I was debating between the Kinekt and Thudbuster, I think that the claims such as, Thudbuster is better for roads and smooth surfaces needs to be proven such as: I rode 5 years on it on a specific bike which weights X lbs and the it covers 70% more of the smaller bumps than the rest of the seatpost!

  • @RobMacKendrick
    @RobMacKendrick 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Three saddles and as many types of shorts in, I still can't seem to get comfortable on my bike. I have no idea how TH-cam knew I needed to learn about this device, but I think it might be the key to my problem. Thanks for the thorough coverage!

  • @luigimaster111
    @luigimaster111 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I know full suspension can help protect your rims, as when you hit a bump the bike can sort of move out of the way and not barrel your full human weight onto the rock all at once. Can a suspension seat post have the same effect? I imagine it'd be not as great of an effect, but still curious.

    • @lettersquash
      @lettersquash ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I think it should be much the same, since most of the mass is the rider's, which the force on the rims will still be cushioned from if the rider experiences a similar suspension effect. For a light rider on a heavy bike, it may be more of a difference, but even this might not be much. Suspension bikes are heavy, and the amount of mass of the frame bouncing is larger than for a rigid bike. But I'm no expert, just you ask an interesting question and nobody's replied in four months.

    • @arkilmu352
      @arkilmu352 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think so..

  • @aserta
    @aserta 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Having made one for my dad (complete with split seat) none of them compare with the antique design i copied. I don't know what they're doing different (of the ones he tested to see which would work) but the simplicity of the old ones results in a really good even ride. It's entirely possible that because they're afraid to extend past 10 cm in the parallelogram system, they're limiting some aspects of the OG design. 1900's people had it right.

    • @ligmuhnugs
      @ligmuhnugs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Can you name an antique example or patent?

    • @accelerator5524
      @accelerator5524 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yeah bro. i need a comfortable ride

  • @camelazo
    @camelazo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This channel is pure gold

  • @tenzinkyedup1829
    @tenzinkyedup1829 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great details and very informative, deeply appreciate ur work, keep it up brother, i can feel the hardwork u put in this video, love it, ❤️