Leclerc definitely has a nice guy tax. I am pretty sure if someone crashed the cars multiple times like him or battled Hass for the entire race , the disrespect from the fans would have been much more
Well he has performed at that level as well ..and he is best driver out there for Ferrari rn..so he's not nice guy kinda thing but whole situation makes him nice guy
He doesn't have the X factor nor the ruthlessness of a Max or Lewis or Alonso or Seb or any other champion. Champion sare generally ruthless, dictate their wishes, oppose the team when they see fit.
At miami in Q3 he took so much kerb because verstappen was doing it aswell, and that is where he gained the most time on Perez. There is a tweet I saw which compared the Q2 run from Max to Leclercs crash. They took the same amount of kerb but the RB just swallows it like it' nothing
The RB was set-up at a higher suspension setting with more ground clearance. At least that's what it looked like. The Ferrari's are setting up low to the ground to maximise ground effect in the slower corners. You can see it in comparisons, slow and windy pieces of track Ferrari fast, long straights it's the RB. It does mean the RB has less trouble clearing bumps and bottoms out less.
If this is true as to why he crashed (and I’m not convinced) then it is an amateurish decision to make and only confirms to me that he has a lot of maturing to do. Each car is different and especially at his level in Motorsport, you cannot mimic a setup that is on a completely different constructor’s car. Brundle talked about this very thing on the sky podcast and how LeClerc should know not to do this, it’s basic…and that he’s pushing himself into mistakes and revealing an inability to work under pressure
Did you compare the telemetry of the gas pedal as well? Driving the same line is only part of the comparison. When they put the power on and how much is at least as important.
I don't necessarily agree that Leclerc's crashes should be THAT worrying for Ferrari. I understand that pointing them out after such a blunder of a weekend the Monegasque had is a very easy way to get acclaim from the internet community, but there is one major argument that is (in my opinion at least) constantly overlooked when discussing Leclerc's crashes. Basically, I think that Leclerc crashes because he has to overdrive the car and tries to put it in places where it does not belong. Let's take a quick look back at the start of 2022. When he had the fastest car on the grid and didn't have to overdrive, he was a true qualifying machine - easily the best qualifier on the grid, who made no mistakes whatsoever. In my opinion, if there is a pattern for Charles and crashes, it is the one that he is incapable of accepting the limits of his car when it's bad - which causes him to overdrive, and, subsequently, make costly mistakes.
What can you expect from the F1 community? Only 10% of the people who watch F1 will be able to have decent debate about these type of things, the other 90% will have a brainfart and then say Lecrash because that´ll get them likes
Finally someone in the comments with common sense. It’s like people want Leclerc to accept he can’t compete with Red Bull, then also have this “champion’s mentality” and never settle for less than P1. He’s in a no win situation here 🤦♂️
How you described Leclerc is exactly the problem with him. He does not know his limits. There is a time to push and a time to be safe.If you are making the same mistakes over and over again....there is a problem.
The problem is Charles is pushing to be competitive in a car that cannot run with the RB19. But he can’t be in that car so it is not worth the risk to get pole only to either crash or win pole and get passed quickly by Red Bull in the race.
@@johngriffiths118 But are the top drivers actually at the limit? We saw this with both Lewis and Max, in the Merc dominance era Lewis was by far the fastest and most consistent driver on the grid, while Max in inferior machinery earned the name “Crashstappen.” Now it’s reversed. It’s a lot easier to be consistent when your car is half a second faster than everyone else’s, and your teammate isn’t on your level. This is also ignoring ‘21 where Lewis had multiple massive mistakes bailed out by sheer luck, and Max drove like an amateur near the end of the season
@@nextyear523 to be fair to Max, he really started to clean up his act in 2019 and was becoming much more consistent. Lewis has always been a bit crash prone throughout his career but matched that with his outstanding racecraft and incredible race-pace.
@@johngriffiths118 is easier to not make mistakes when u have a rocket ship that is why lewis and max used to be reckelss before they had dominant cars
The issue is that Leclerc has that "When in doubt, flat out" mentality. Where he prioritizes raw speed over consistency. Sure, it's amazing and the fans love to see him push a mediocre Ferrari to the limit. But that does not bring consistency and greatly increases the chance of crashing. At least Sainz whilst slower on Quali pace, is a lot cleaner and consistent in terms of scoring points.
Max Verstappen has literally had the same mentality every single race he has entered in his whole life, he integrated consistency without compromising that mentality, without that mentality leclerc might as well quit F1 and wash dishes at home.
I think it's difficult to make the claim that Leclerc is the quickest driver in F1. I get the feeling that if Max, Lewis or George took the additional risks Charles does, they would be able to achieve similar lap times. But they don't because they understand that being quick is all about managing risk to reward. A good example of this is Max's infamous lap at the end of qualifying in Jeddah 2021. He was so quick (maybe 2 tenths up on pole) and taking so many risks on that one lap ... and then put it in the wall. Just my two cents 😅 What do you guys think?
yea but Verstappen, Alonso and Hamilton, even Vettel in the past and on the odd occasion in his final years just pulled out fast lap times while their laps looked slow and sedate and not on edge. Leclerc CAN hang with them in terms of one lap pace and can extract incredibly great performances out of even bad cars quite often. He's just sometimes taking that one tiny extra risk that puts him over the limit like early 2018 SuperMax or Romain or the Lord Pastor......
I mean Leclerc is the quickest because he takes so much risk in Q3, and he actually doesn't crash that often in Quali. I can think of Baku 19, Monaco 21 and Miami 23
Agreed, i also think that it shows in the fact Max and Lewis’ race pace is always so impressive, and Leclerc does not, ferrari tire wear taken into account as well.
@@suckieduckie Well Max´s cars have only been getting better since 2018, while charles have been either shit or only good in qualy (except last year´s Ferrari from Bahrain to France)
Its a problem. He is prone to crash. But its not because of his driving style. But because he have a tendency to push the car over the limit. Go big or go home.
When you look at his crashes in the last two years its when he tries to chase something that is beyond or very close to beyond his cars limits. I think if he was in a stable environment like rb he wouldnt crash as much. So for me a big part of it is ferrari tax like we saw with Vettel.
As a fannatic SF fan, I am totally fine with Leclerc's mistakes. He never cared, since he got there, If his car was the slowest on the grid, or second fastest (last year). He'll always try to win, and by not having the best car, to over compensate. He drives with passion, and quite frankly, you can ALWAYS expect a trilling qualy with him (Monaco's crazy lap-that-never-was last year, Sakhir 2020, Barcelona 2022) I understand the strategic approach, such as Max's nowadays (wich reminds us of a certain Michael Schumacher, Fernando Alonso), but this craziness, always on the edge, doesn't matter if he's first or last, from Leclerc, reminds us of Pironi, Villeneuve, Senna, which is passion, always letting us on the edge of our seats. Keep driving like you do Charles, you represent everything that we, Tifosi, love. Never lose this passionate driving style!
Hamilton is known to stay out of trouble and be mistake free. But in 2021 we saw how much more error prone he was compared to Verstappen. Alonso has been even better in terms of not making mistakes as we've seen since the early 2010s.....Leclerc seems to make more than all of them combined.
I usually love your videos but disagree with this. Leclerc is only considered error prone because the car and team he’s in demand driving on the knife edge to be in contention. Verstappen can cruise to wins and poles. Charles has to push to even get close. I believe it’s a conscious choice. Leclerc’s speed speaks for itself; his crashes aren’t a lack in skill, it’s a lack of a car and team that push him too far.
That's because Max basically has some characteristics of the best drivers to ever be in F1's history. Not to mention, Max has been great with tyre management since he joined the sport and built his race pace up to where it is now. Max not only has raw speed, he also knows how to control and win a race even when at odds. There's a reason why Leclerc may never get to the same level of Max and why Senna is the best driver to compare him too whereas Max has parts of Prost, Schumi, Lewis and Senna.
Lol, Max never spun out and crashed into the wall, he used to be aggressive while racing wheel to wheel. He always pushed hard and outperformed his car, ever since he entered F1.
Max stopped constantly crashing after Monaco 2018, which was halfway through his 4th season. Charles is now in his 6th season and still doing the same mistakes. Can't call it 'early years' anymore for Charles. I mean Max has more race wins from Charles poles than Charles himself ffs.
I think leclerc is brilliant and a rapid qualifier, however he has a pattern of not being able to judge a cars limit like other drivers in the top bracket can. He also seems to always set the car up too quali heavy.
To be a world champion, one needs: 1. Talent 2. A reliable competitive car 3. A good team Unfortunately, Leclerc has only 1. He compensates the missing things through his talent. For eg: when Max was fighting with Mercedes, he knew he didn't have the same machinery. That's why he was pushing it to the limit and often crashing. Leclerc knows he has to compete with what he has and that unbalanced nature of sf23 is making him lose control.
Max was crashing back when he was a teenager, he was flawless on his own in 2021 and only being overly agressive when side by side with Lewis. Charles has been making costly solo mistakes. This is not the same thing
@@martimxavier9690 and also Ferrari strategy calls not doing Leclerc favours. I mean how many times already Leclerc got screwed by his own team when comes to strategy calls and what's even worse is some of the calls are completely wrong? Far too often: Monaco 2022 which Ferrari should've pit Leclerc on the same lap as Checo comes in for Inters despite Gasly and Seb running a lot faster on inters than those full wet tyre runners upfront. Secondly, Silverstone 2022 I mean wtf??!!! Sainz definitely should've let Leclerc through a lot earlier because Lewis and Checo at that point(before safety car comes out on lap 39) already closing in on NOT 1 ferrari driver BUT 2 ferrari drivers.
Assuming Ferrari get their act together on the technical front of chassis and aero design philosophy, quality control for reliability etc.,. Then it comes down to Charles Leclerc calming down and making his own calls in terms of strategy. Alonso essentially plays F1 Manager and drives the car like Leclerc or Hamilton or Verstappen which is why he's so good.
These Ferrari videos must be like a stake through the heart to you. I honestly was surprised to see Leclerc hit that same divot after the curbing in Miami TWICE causing a bottoming out.
Earlier this season i think it was the race in which carlos clipped Alonzo in race reset. I think lecrec spun in the first lap into dirt. He was ordered to dnf. I did not understand why. The car was absolutely fine.
I think people, especially those from Twitter and likes to stir up drama between Max and Lewis, are hypocrites. When Max entered F1 in 2015, he made a lot of mistakes, especially 2017 and 2018 which are his 3rd and 4th season. Whenever Max crashes, people always call him as Crashtappen. Look at him now, Max is becoming consistent and rarely crashes. As for Leclerc, he entered F1 in 2018, 2023 is his 6th season. To be crashing twice in a weekend is unacceptable. But people always defend him for his crashes, saying he was overdriving the car to compensate having a weaker car. I feel that this is so unfair, why does Max gets so much hate when Leclerc is making more mistakes at a more experienced level?
Twitter is ground zero and they’ll spend their final days crying about Abu Dhabi 2021. That’s the reason they like to hate on Max. But Max has shown he won’t collapse when under pressure and will do whatever it takes to win. Charles seems to let the pressure get him at times as soon as a Red Bull or Merc is chasing him for the lead. We love to clown on Ferrari and their team errors but when it’s not Ferrari it’s Charles spinning the car off track. People defend him because he’s the internet’s golden boy. He has a friendly personality, he has a rough backstory to making it in F1, his attractiveness (according to twitter). He will always get defended for any error he makes but how long can it go on for? There’s times he looks unstoppable and there’s times where his own worst enemy is himself
On the france thing: LAP: Max--------------- || Charles L17: 32.8 29.7 43.0 || 25.5 30.2 43.5 L18: 24.6 29.6 :D---- || 25.0 30.0 xx.x Max pits on Lap16, and thus has a crappy S1 in L17, but look at the rest of them 0.5, 0.5, 0.4, 0.4 seconds quicker. When Max pits, he is about 1.5s behind LEC. And RBR had a "normal" 2.4s pitstop. Charles is pushing like a madman to try to overcut, or atleast defend the undercut. Sure it was from the lead, but some people saying its an unforced error. I will very much say it was a very forced error, as he was so hard trying to defend the undercut.
I have so much respect and appreciation for Charles be so willing to put his hands up and admit his own mistakes and/or contribution in poor times/races. It's a double-edge sword to hear it from him though, as it's nice to hear often but means he's under-performing often, which is disappointing as I like and respect him overall (despite being in a Ferrari, a team I've LONG disliked).
The thing is, that Leclerc is the only driver with this high skill that has any patience for modern Ferrari, Max and Lewis would be gone within a few weeks. People calling for his replacement forget that any other driver available would do the same as Sainz on a good weekend, 5th or 6th, whereas for Leclerc, that's his bad or "off" weekends. And not to compare the two directly or anything (so don't come at me old fans), I think his approach and his style and his effect on the Tifosi is very much Gilles Villenueve esc, but that's just my opinion. The bin it or win it mentality that has been missing from F1 for quite a lot of years.
Too much has been made of Leclerc’s crashes this year. I concede that last year Leclerc bottled it one too many times. But this year, it’s down to the car
To be honest, looking at struggles of Carlos Sainz (yes he had a bit of spins) in Ferrari 2022 (especially at the start of the season) you can not escape the idea of Ferrari being really difficult to drive. And the gap looks like to be bigger between Carlos and Charles in quali. So I think Charles crashing natureof driving is a bit exaggerated.
He's only crashing bc he has to push 110% through every single corner to have a chance of keeping pace. I don't blame Leclerc for trying. I blame Ferrari for not.
I blame Leclerc, he’s not fighting the Red Bulls, nobody is he needs to accept that and get on with fighting the Aston Martin’s and Mercedes. Right now he is just throwing away points left and right while costing a huge sum of money for Ferrari in an era of budget cap. His crashes will start to affect their ability to bring upgrades.
Aldas, I love your F1 insight, you have a crazy knack for explaining all your reasons for why state your facts. I never miss any of your videos. However when you said back in 2014 when Alonso raced actual tractors. pure jokes!
To me Leclerc is modern Gilles Villeneuve. Incredibly quick, but always driving on the limit and has tendency to crash because of it. Leclerc has the speed to become world champion, but I'm still not convinced he has the required consistency even if Ferrari fixes their car issues. Always driving on the limit might be exciting for fans, but it doesn't tend to be how you win championships. In 79 it was Jody Scheckter who won the title ahead of quicker Villeneuve.
Pure hypothetical of course, but could Leclerc have done what Max did in '21 against prime Hamilton (if Leclerc had a competetive car like the RB)? I dont think so. He wouldnt be able to deal with the pressure and that's the biggest factor. Think about the pressure Lewis and Max have been put under in the past and look how well they coped with it all. They're a totally different level to Chuck.
Charles won F2 title right after his father died. He won in Monza 2019 under huge pressure from Lewis and from the crowd of tiffosi. So I think he's more than strong enough for the title fight.
I mean isn’t the main issues are: -car speed -car reliability -always slow on development against RB and Merc -inconsistent pit stop -strategy -politics within that team (how many team principals they had when RB and Merc stick with Horner and Toto?) SF wouldn’t win the title even if the first driver is Max or Lewis. So I am not worried about the driver at all. I am pretty sure if Charles doesn’t need to push 120% those mistakes will go away. After all he didn’t crash at Alfa in 2018. On the other hand when was the last year Ferrari didn’t f*ck themselves up?
thank god someone made a video on this. Leclerc is amazing. leclerc is incompetent. he is the most crash prone driver on the grid. he is also the fastest driver on the grid on his day. he needs to smooth it out. it will be the best for the sport. sincerely a max fan.
He’s 25, he still has time to keep learning and improving. We’re getting used to drivers getting younger and younger, so we forget just how young these kids actually are. Max is his age but he has more F1 experience and went through his “Crashstappen” stages early on. So I’m not too worried about Charles tbh. I think he has great things in his future.
He’s wasting the best years of his career lol. He may only be 25 but regardless of age the amount of time you have at a top team is limited, and leclerc has already spent 4 years at one. Even if leclerc is still at his best in the future if it doesn’t match where Ferrari is they will have to eventually drop him or he will have to leave. And after that his options get fewer and fewer
We were having the same conversations about Seb, and seb never crashed the Aston in qualifying. I think there is a pretty serious driver coaching issue within Ferrari that pushes overdriving instead of getting the car home in one peice.
Leclerc looks like Seb now....😢. Sainz while a bit slower is able to hit back at the pitwall and see thru their crap strategies more often than Leclerc and startegise for himself.
When you drive a car over the limit you crash. This was the problem with Vettel at Ferrari and early max with the Renault engine. You try and make up 5/10ths of car deficit and dump it from time to time. About the only ones you dont see it from are Lewis and Fernando.
If any other driver was as crash prone as Charles they would be bullied to death. I think the only reason why people give him a pass is because he's very handsome
Every f1 team would want to have Charles. I feel that he pushes over the line at times but only when he is forced into that position. Like France GP last year he was pushing the car to try and keep his championship alive.
charles definitely has a crash problem, but it also worth noting how many times he been in the lead or a podium position and his car just breaks down. i feel like i can remember at least 5 or 6 in the last couple of years
That's what happens when you have the 2nd or 3rd best car and are expected to fight for wins and podiums. I think people have forgotten that even Max used to crash a lot back in 2018 and was even nicknamed crashtappen lol. Charles just needs a car that suits his driving style
I actually disagree with you here, leclerc is the only one capable of forcing a result in that Ferrari. Ferrari aren’t competing for any major honors this year, and let’s be frank they don’t need the prize money. The consistent points don’t really matter compared to snagging an unlikely win, so while it’s not a good thing I can excuse leclerc crashing out of pushing too hard
could you do a data driven comparison of leclerc with verstappen, hamilton, alonso, vettel in their first five years? i think it'd be interesting. and i think myself and alot of f1 fans are new enough to not have seen it firsthand.
Why have people out him on the level of other greats when the guy hasnt done jack to prove it? I like the guy but cmon, he hasnt done much unless everything has fallen in place. Never takes charge, never disagrees with the team and does something about it. People have nicknamed Max as Crashtappen but he has the edge of a champ. Even russell many times has dictated strategy and done something for himself. Carlos did it in britain last year. Charles is overrated in the sense that hes put in the same league as Max or other champs. Absolutely wrong imo. Let him prove and we'll talk.
To me he does not have a car that can handle the amount of risk and push he puts it through. Until they have a better car he has to manage better and be patient while trying to extract the most out of what the car will allow him to, not easy. Im not a Ferrari fan but I do admire the drivers and their determination. I can only imagine the frustration and difficulties but until something changes one has to manage properly.
I'm grateful you made this video about Charles. He's a great driver, certainly belonging in the conversation of fastest drivers on the grid. But due to the growing number of minor/ big incidents he makes, it can be argued that this is the department he is still lacking in. Consistency and management of risk and reward. While I disagree that his crashes are becoming a big problem for Ferrari, he really does need to calm down and be more methodical in hustling his car around the track trying to get the maximum out of the car. Whilst we do not know if it is pressure seeping in or just Ferrari failing to adjust their car to the drivers' liking, his recent incidents have become comparable to the ones Seb made in 2018. It's likely that he's over pushing the car because he knows the RB 18 & 19 are just superior. Kind of reminds me of how Seb took care of his races in the 2nd half of the 2018 season, where he took risks in a lot of races and ended up backfiring on him. But oh well, Charles is still young, still a bit early to place such doubts on him. It's more imperative that Ferrari get their act together in the development and race to race strategies lol.
The thing is, with redbull being so far and away with the championship, the teams like ferrari and mercedes are being grouped closer to the upper middle like lance stroll and Alpine, meaning there is much more competition than normal, because they have to hold off the upper middle, compete with eachother, and try to beat redbull, that isn't too bad for a driver like alonso or Hamilton who are consistent and safe drivers, but LeClerc is naturally a much riskier driver, so with more pressure he takes more risks, and much riskier plays. He also seems to forget the limits of his car sometimes, trying to stretch it, which in it of itself is a risk, and when the car can't keep up with him he suffers. He just doesn't seem to be able to accept that his car can't beat Max. I would say that if he had a car on par with redbull he might be ok, but ferrari are too far out of redbull's league, and LeClerc isn't willing to accept that, resulting in him going too far and, in fact, racing too good for his car to handle.
It looks to me as the yamaha motogp situation: they used to had amazing riders like Rossi, Vinales and most of all Quartararo that simply hided the gaps and the limits of the bike, to the point that now they are not enough developed
This is what happens when you have an inferior car compared to your opponent but there is huge pressure on you to match them. You tend to over-push, often leading to mistakes. Wasn't there a time when Verstappen was often nicknamed "Crashtappen" by his critics online because it felt like he made costly mistakes quite often back when Red Bull was not this competitive? It usually happens to any driver who are under pressure to "out-perform" their car in order to compete with others. Plus, there is no such thing as pushing a car to 110%. You cannot go over 100% of the car's ability, otherwise you either crash or the car breaks down.
Leclerc should realize that Ferrari is not racing with Red Bull. They are racing with Aston Martin and Mercedes. He shouldn't push that far to match with RB. He should dial down a notch and fight for 3rd place in every race.
everyone said the same about max crashing a lot but when you have a driver thats shown his talent is up there with max, you'll support him. out of all the drivers of the big 3 except george, he has the least seasons out of the 6. he's the only driver other than max with the current gen of cars that has a grand slam. and when you consider how much wins he has lost out on through no fault of his own, that can be reason for the crashes. when you dont have consistency with the team, its hard for a driver to have that as well. out of Charles win has it because "he lucked out or he won because of a ferrari strategy". the guy has the talent to match Max and he's shown it, and yes he crashes but id rather have a driver who's got the pace and talent to be the best and learn how to keep it under control like Max than a slow driver who cant increase his pace.
i think leclerc is more of a button or a hill at the moment even a kimi. when the car is in the right window he’s unstoppable. the issue is getting the car into that window consistently. I think he has the capacity for one world championship but with where he’s at right now. i can’t see him winning multiple championships.
I'm not saying that I don't like Leclerc or think he's a bad driver but I've never looked at him and thought future world champion. That and the fact he had a former 4x world champion on his joining with Ferrari, poised as being better and younger than vettel, leclerc in my eyes was only younger you could say more daring? Inter team mingling at ferrari causing vettel to use a broken chassis ( for 3 races or more? ) and poor setup from his side of the garage all contributed to the often common belief leclerc was better than vettel. Time will tell, but how things are within Ferrari and Leclercs pressures he's increasingly failing to hide and personal frustrations with the car I doubt he will become a champion, not least with ferrari.
Ryzard "But he's driving past the limit of his car to compete, he has a worse car!" The issue is that he's pushing the car for no reason. He isn't going to beat red bull. Even on pole, he nearly got caught by Alonso in the following race. If you decide to push the car to p1 when at best you are getting p3, the best thing you will end up doing is getting pole and risking wheel to wheel contact in the race. There's no point, and it shows in the points totals compared to his teammates. He's taking stupid risks, not smart ones. Yes, you should push as hard as possible, but he clearly doesn't know his limit, or doesn't care.
While I agree with you on most everything you’ve said, if you compare him to max, Rookie as a backmarker Wins in 2nd season with top team 2016-2020 finds his groove from being crash prone/over aggressive That’s 5 seasons of learning before his first title Charles: Backmarker team in rookie season Wins in second season with top team 2019-2023 5 seasons to figure it out Next season is the tell all for him imo
Whilst I think the comparison is good, Leclerc is 25 going 26, not 22 going 23 like Verstappen was in 2020. Also there was a clear step up from Max in 2019 and then again in 2022. I’m not sure Leclerc has had a similar step up during the 2019 - 2023 period.
@@hurronivich2652 let's also not forget, Max before F1 had 1 year of single seater experience. Charles has gone through the F1 feeder series so his adjustment shouldn't have been as harsh as Max
I’ve not really seen anything that convinces me that Charles is a mega driver - or on a level higher than your average GP driver. He’s done a great job convincing Ferrari that he’s a star , but don’t really see what the fuss is about - am sure loads of other drivers could do as well as he is - they could do a lot worse than swapping him for Danny Ricc 😊
LeClerk is a nice guy and very fast but its at a cost of making his driving crash prone. At Saudi I saw Lando touch a wall and damage his steering and my thought was Thats a rare thing to see. Lando is also very fast but he is consistent and has few errors. To me Lando is a more capable driver to possibly be a wdc. Charles may ultimately be a faster one lap driver but you have to finish the race.
I think one of LeClerc’s problems is that he KNOWS Ferrari isn’t competitive enough (especially over a whole season) to compete for world titles. So he likely feels extreme pressure to stay right on the limit of the car, no matter how difficult it is to stay ON and not OVER it. Over a whole race though that just doesn’t work out, especially in this generation of car. LeClerc seems to just be unable to grasp that these cars CAN’T take kerbs like the last gen, as highlighted by imola last year. LeClerc imo puts more faith in the car than the car deserves, causing him to push over the car’s limits and lose it. LeClerc is a phenomenal driver and I believe with a more comfortable car he could actually contend for titles, but I can’t convince myself LeClerc is anymore than 50% to blame with how mediocre his car has been at Ferrari.
Lol, you dare others to compare leclerc with mick or latifi but in the same sentence, you actually dared to compare leclerc with alonso and verstappen...😂 you can compare leclerc to hamilton because both are just slightly above average f1 drivers, but none of them is top tier like verstappen or alonso.
As a max fan I love the way he drives and I would love to have him on my team . Anyone talking shit is a hater but he is crash prone . Multiple things can be true guys let’s grow up
i think people forget that: Yes, Leclerc crashes, but look at Ferrari's recent philosophy to building cars. It's all about speed, nothing to do with reliability. Ferrari choose speed over any other variable, so yes while Ferrari were quick last year, they were always unstable. Charles finds around 5 tenths in quali over Sainz and took the most piles in 2019. You dont do that without a reason. The truth (from my perspective) is that modern day Ferrari F1 cars, punish drivers like Charles. Bcs like we saw in almost all of the crashes here, Charles rarely makes "mistakes". It's just a balance in the car that, when being pushed as hard as Charles pushes, becomes an unreliable untrustworthy car. Miami Quali crash was down to inbalance in the car. I feel like yes Charles pushes too hard and has crashed a lot this year, but he hasnt got anything to lose, Ferrari are nowhere and Charles can put them on pole, so why not push like that? If he crashes, oh well on we go, if he doesnt you've just witnessed a top tier driver doing top tier things.
I do not think for one moment that LeClerc is the quickest guys in F1….if you take out the ability to make wise decisions under pressure, then he is quick? Quickness is all about being under pressure, it’s not something that can be taken away from the equation.
It’s a lot like how Verstappen used to be. Once he got the Championship (let’s not argue how) only that’s when I believe his driving to become a lot Calmer. Even in 2021 at times he was pushing way to hard. Even Hamilton as astonishing as his First Season were used to do this from time to time. I would lie to say I remember lots of Alonso from Back in the Day but I wouldn’t be surprised to see it there as well. I believe the Mental „Gold Factor“ is what makes the Difference and eventually I believe he will get there.
We have to realize tho, Max had his crashes while being a teenager who had 1 year of single seater experince before F1. And by the age of 20/21 his act was mostly clean getting some great wins. When he was fighting in 2021, he was very agressive with Lewis, BUT virtually flawless on his own during the season, something that we haven't seen Charles do. When he had a great car in the beginning of last year, he was still making costly mistakes on his own
@@martimxavier9690 that’s why I said alike not the same. Max and Lewis both are in my opinion Mentally stronger. However none of them had to lose someone they deeply cared about at a young age who’s place they have directly taken. It may sound harsh but losing Jules definitely must have done something inside Charles simply for the fact that he is a human being.
Comparing Charles to Max Fernando Hamilton and Vettel is funny. Leclerc doesn't desrerve to be compared to these legends and also its disrepctful to them. Even Checo is better in the races that Charles right now
One bad weekend and now Checo is better than Charles even tho Leclerc finished higher in the championship last year huh. Recency bias is a hell of a drug…..
I didn't like the fact that Leclerc beat Vettel but I have to concede that he is probably almost as fast as Verstappen in terms of qualifying pace. The performances he pulled in the 2020 Ferrari tractor and 2018 Sauber.....that's speed and talent of a potential world champion
If Leclerc were to not continue his ferrari contract after next year and approach Aston for a drive instead of alsonso do you think Aston should take it?
Verstappen was infamously “Crashtappen” for the first few years of his career, then at the 2018 Canadian GP he said he would head butt someone if he gets more questions about it. That’s when his mistakes dropped off dramatically. Maybe Charles needs to threaten some journalists for his crashes to stop.
History tells us that drivers like Leclerc will relax in time and become champions. Scheckter is a prime example. Better to have raw pace and be able to dial it back. The other way is not so possible.
Leclerc definitely has a nice guy tax. I am pretty sure if someone crashed the cars multiple times like him or battled Hass for the entire race , the disrespect from the fans would have been much more
Well he has performed at that level as well ..and he is best driver out there for Ferrari rn..so he's not nice guy kinda thing but whole situation makes him nice guy
He doesn't have the X factor nor the ruthlessness of a Max or Lewis or Alonso or Seb or any other champion. Champion sare generally ruthless, dictate their wishes, oppose the team when they see fit.
Qualifying tax*
It's clear you haven't read this comment section and you're not on Twitter
Max and Lewis fanboys spent the entire weekend lighting him up lol. What tax are you talking about..
At miami in Q3 he took so much kerb because verstappen was doing it aswell, and that is where he gained the most time on Perez. There is a tweet I saw which compared the Q2 run from Max to Leclercs crash. They took the same amount of kerb but the RB just swallows it like it' nothing
The RB was set-up at a higher suspension setting with more ground clearance. At least that's what it looked like. The Ferrari's are setting up low to the ground to maximise ground effect in the slower corners. You can see it in comparisons, slow and windy pieces of track Ferrari fast, long straights it's the RB. It does mean the RB has less trouble clearing bumps and bottoms out less.
If this is true as to why he crashed (and I’m not convinced) then it is an amateurish decision to make and only confirms to me that he has a lot of maturing to do. Each car is different and especially at his level in Motorsport, you cannot mimic a setup that is on a completely different constructor’s car.
Brundle talked about this very thing on the sky podcast and how LeClerc should know not to do this, it’s basic…and that he’s pushing himself into mistakes and revealing an inability to work under pressure
The Ferraris Floor slammed against the kerb and then he lost the rear
And that’s what separates a very good driver vs a champion, knowing your limits in the car you are driving, and to have a full control.
Did you compare the telemetry of the gas pedal as well? Driving the same line is only part of the comparison. When they put the power on and how much is at least as important.
I don't necessarily agree that Leclerc's crashes should be THAT worrying for Ferrari. I understand that pointing them out after such a blunder of a weekend the Monegasque had is a very easy way to get acclaim from the internet community, but there is one major argument that is (in my opinion at least) constantly overlooked when discussing Leclerc's crashes. Basically, I think that Leclerc crashes because he has to overdrive the car and tries to put it in places where it does not belong. Let's take a quick look back at the start of 2022. When he had the fastest car on the grid and didn't have to overdrive, he was a true qualifying machine - easily the best qualifier on the grid, who made no mistakes whatsoever. In my opinion, if there is a pattern for Charles and crashes, it is the one that he is incapable of accepting the limits of his car when it's bad - which causes him to overdrive, and, subsequently, make costly mistakes.
What can you expect from the F1 community? Only 10% of the people who watch F1 will be able to have decent debate about these type of things, the other 90% will have a brainfart and then say Lecrash because that´ll get them likes
My thoughts exactly!!
The only relevant opinion on the matter. Congratulations...
Finally someone in the comments with common sense. It’s like people want Leclerc to accept he can’t compete with Red Bull, then also have this “champion’s mentality” and never settle for less than P1. He’s in a no win situation here 🤦♂️
How you described Leclerc is exactly the problem with him.
He does not know his limits.
There is a time to push and a time to be safe.If you are making the same mistakes over and over again....there is a problem.
The problem is Charles is pushing to be competitive in a car that cannot run with the RB19. But he can’t be in that car so it is not worth the risk to get pole only to either crash or win pole and get passed quickly by Red Bull in the race.
To be an F1 World Champion you dont need only pace you need to have consistency, that is what makes the difference
The top drivers seem to rarely make driving mistakes at the limit . They can simply not afford it in a championship . Consistency is everything
@@johngriffiths118 But are the top drivers actually at the limit? We saw this with both Lewis and Max, in the Merc dominance era Lewis was by far the fastest and most consistent driver on the grid, while Max in inferior machinery earned the name “Crashstappen.” Now it’s reversed. It’s a lot easier to be consistent when your car is half a second faster than everyone else’s, and your teammate isn’t on your level. This is also ignoring ‘21 where Lewis had multiple massive mistakes bailed out by sheer luck, and Max drove like an amateur near the end of the season
@@nextyear523 to be fair to Max, he really started to clean up his act in 2019 and was becoming much more consistent. Lewis has always been a bit crash prone throughout his career but matched that with his outstanding racecraft and incredible race-pace.
No shit lol but how can he consistent when Ferrari isn’t?
@@johngriffiths118 is easier to not make mistakes when u have a rocket ship that is why lewis and max used to be reckelss before they had dominant cars
The issue is that Leclerc has that "When in doubt, flat out" mentality. Where he prioritizes raw speed over consistency. Sure, it's amazing and the fans love to see him push a mediocre Ferrari to the limit. But that does not bring consistency and greatly increases the chance of crashing. At least Sainz whilst slower on Quali pace, is a lot cleaner and consistent in terms of scoring points.
This is why I consider Sainz to be slightly better then LeClerc.
Your point on Sainz is based on one weekend only.
@@elianioriofarrell not really this is based over the last couple of races, notably Australia and Miami
Jean Alesi is back at Ferrari
Max Verstappen has literally had the same mentality every single race he has entered in his whole life, he integrated consistency without compromising that mentality, without that mentality leclerc might as well quit F1 and wash dishes at home.
I think it's difficult to make the claim that Leclerc is the quickest driver in F1. I get the feeling that if Max, Lewis or George took the additional risks Charles does, they would be able to achieve similar lap times. But they don't because they understand that being quick is all about managing risk to reward. A good example of this is Max's infamous lap at the end of qualifying in Jeddah 2021. He was so quick (maybe 2 tenths up on pole) and taking so many risks on that one lap ... and then put it in the wall. Just my two cents 😅 What do you guys think?
yea but Verstappen, Alonso and Hamilton, even Vettel in the past and on the odd occasion in his final years just pulled out fast lap times while their laps looked slow and sedate and not on edge. Leclerc CAN hang with them in terms of one lap pace and can extract incredibly great performances out of even bad cars quite often. He's just sometimes taking that one tiny extra risk that puts him over the limit like early 2018 SuperMax or Romain or the Lord Pastor......
Completely agree also. And I'm still sad about Max's Jeddah lap in 2021 🤣
I mean Leclerc is the quickest because he takes so much risk in Q3, and he actually doesn't crash that often in Quali. I can think of Baku 19, Monaco 21 and Miami 23
Agreed, i also think that it shows in the fact Max and Lewis’ race pace is always so impressive, and Leclerc does not, ferrari tire wear taken into account as well.
ya zool
9:06 exactly what Marko said about Verstappen in 2018....you can tame a fast driver to not crash, can't speed up a slow driver.
Everyone has been saying that about Leclerc since what 2019? At some point you got to admit that we won't iron out these mistakes
@@SnackBrown-yt6dl 2019 was his second year, 2018 was Max's fourth year
@@ross587 Still, Max's number of crashes have been trending downwards since early 2018, Leclerc has been trending up.
@@suckieduckie Well Max´s cars have only been getting better since 2018, while charles have been either shit or only good in qualy (except last year´s Ferrari from Bahrain to France)
@Wietse op de Weegh that's because Max was in his 4th or 5th year in 2018, Leclerc is in his 5th year now.
Its a problem. He is prone to crash. But its not because of his driving style. But because he have a tendency to push the car over the limit. Go big or go home.
And then if he didnt these mindless idiots would be making videos about "LECLERK TOO SLOW? SHOULD HE BE THE #2 DRIVER AT FERRARI INSTEAD?"
When you look at his crashes in the last two years its when he tries to chase something that is beyond or very close to beyond his cars limits. I think if he was in a stable environment like rb he wouldnt crash as much. So for me a big part of it is ferrari tax like we saw with Vettel.
As a fannatic SF fan, I am totally fine with Leclerc's mistakes. He never cared, since he got there, If his car was the slowest on the grid, or second fastest (last year). He'll always try to win, and by not having the best car, to over compensate. He drives with passion, and quite frankly, you can ALWAYS expect a trilling qualy with him (Monaco's crazy lap-that-never-was last year, Sakhir 2020, Barcelona 2022) I understand the strategic approach, such as Max's nowadays (wich reminds us of a certain Michael Schumacher, Fernando Alonso), but this craziness, always on the edge, doesn't matter if he's first or last, from Leclerc, reminds us of Pironi, Villeneuve, Senna, which is passion, always letting us on the edge of our seats. Keep driving like you do Charles, you represent everything that we, Tifosi, love. Never lose this passionate driving style!
Hamilton is known to stay out of trouble and be mistake free. But in 2021 we saw how much more error prone he was compared to Verstappen. Alonso has been even better in terms of not making mistakes as we've seen since the early 2010s.....Leclerc seems to make more than all of them combined.
You seem to forget 2011.
@@l5e2n9 lewis even crashed into massa in the PITLANE lmao.
@@0megalul309 🤣 yes
Max made a lot more mistakes than Lewis in 2021, especially in the last 3 races he became do desperate he wasn’t even making corners.
@@Guyfawx42 meanwhile lewis was crashing, cutting corners, and fucking up restarts
I usually love your videos but disagree with this. Leclerc is only considered error prone because the car and team he’s in demand driving on the knife edge to be in contention. Verstappen can cruise to wins and poles. Charles has to push to even get close.
I believe it’s a conscious choice. Leclerc’s speed speaks for itself; his crashes aren’t a lack in skill, it’s a lack of a car and team that push him too far.
Remember guys Max was deemed to incident prone in his early years in F1 also and now he is considered one of the best to ever do it.
That's because Max basically has some characteristics of the best drivers to ever be in F1's history. Not to mention, Max has been great with tyre management since he joined the sport and built his race pace up to where it is now. Max not only has raw speed, he also knows how to control and win a race even when at odds. There's a reason why Leclerc may never get to the same level of Max and why Senna is the best driver to compare him too whereas Max has parts of Prost, Schumi, Lewis and Senna.
Yeah but Max was literally an inexperienced teenager when he got into F1...
Lol, Max never spun out and crashed into the wall, he used to be aggressive while racing wheel to wheel. He always pushed hard and outperformed his car, ever since he entered F1.
@@rosek7114but was better than most in his rookie season
Max stopped constantly crashing after Monaco 2018, which was halfway through his 4th season. Charles is now in his 6th season and still doing the same mistakes. Can't call it 'early years' anymore for Charles. I mean Max has more race wins from Charles poles than Charles himself ffs.
I think leclerc is brilliant and a rapid qualifier, however he has a pattern of not being able to judge a cars limit like other drivers in the top bracket can. He also seems to always set the car up too quali heavy.
He also has zero tyre management skills, which doesn't help when you're driving a car that performs poorly in that area.
Looks like this is gonna become the next s🅱️inalla
They are just some inchidents.
To be a world champion, one needs:
1. Talent
2. A reliable competitive car
3. A good team
Unfortunately, Leclerc has only 1. He compensates the missing things through his talent.
For eg: when Max was fighting with Mercedes, he knew he didn't have the same machinery. That's why he was pushing it to the limit and often crashing. Leclerc knows he has to compete with what he has and that unbalanced nature of sf23 is making him lose control.
Max was crashing back when he was a teenager, he was flawless on his own in 2021 and only being overly agressive when side by side with Lewis. Charles has been making costly solo mistakes. This is not the same thing
@@martimxavier9690 and also Ferrari strategy calls not doing Leclerc favours. I mean how many times already Leclerc got screwed by his own team when comes to strategy calls and what's even worse is some of the calls are completely wrong? Far too often: Monaco 2022 which Ferrari should've pit Leclerc on the same lap as Checo comes in for Inters despite Gasly and Seb running a lot faster on inters than those full wet tyre runners upfront. Secondly, Silverstone 2022 I mean wtf??!!! Sainz definitely should've let Leclerc through a lot earlier because Lewis and Checo at that point(before safety car comes out on lap 39) already closing in on NOT 1 ferrari driver BUT 2 ferrari drivers.
Assuming Ferrari get their act together on the technical front of chassis and aero design philosophy, quality control for reliability etc.,. Then it comes down to Charles Leclerc calming down and making his own calls in terms of strategy. Alonso essentially plays F1 Manager and drives the car like Leclerc or Hamilton or Verstappen which is why he's so good.
These Ferrari videos must be like a stake through the heart to you. I honestly was surprised to see Leclerc hit that same divot after the curbing in Miami TWICE causing a bottoming out.
He didn't hit it the first time, the first time the rear just went, the second time, it bottomed out.
Earlier this season i think it was the race in which carlos clipped Alonzo in race reset. I think lecrec spun in the first lap into dirt. He was ordered to dnf. I did not understand why. The car was absolutely fine.
I think people, especially those from Twitter and likes to stir up drama between Max and Lewis, are hypocrites. When Max entered F1 in 2015, he made a lot of mistakes, especially 2017 and 2018 which are his 3rd and 4th season. Whenever Max crashes, people always call him as Crashtappen. Look at him now, Max is becoming consistent and rarely crashes.
As for Leclerc, he entered F1 in 2018, 2023 is his 6th season. To be crashing twice in a weekend is unacceptable. But people always defend him for his crashes, saying he was overdriving the car to compensate having a weaker car. I feel that this is so unfair, why does Max gets so much hate when Leclerc is making more mistakes at a more experienced level?
Twitter is ground zero and they’ll spend their final days crying about Abu Dhabi 2021. That’s the reason they like to hate on Max. But Max has shown he won’t collapse when under pressure and will do whatever it takes to win. Charles seems to let the pressure get him at times as soon as a Red Bull or Merc is chasing him for the lead. We love to clown on Ferrari and their team errors but when it’s not Ferrari it’s Charles spinning the car off track.
People defend him because he’s the internet’s golden boy. He has a friendly personality, he has a rough backstory to making it in F1, his attractiveness (according to twitter). He will always get defended for any error he makes but how long can it go on for? There’s times he looks unstoppable and there’s times where his own worst enemy is himself
On the france thing:
LAP: Max--------------- || Charles
L17: 32.8 29.7 43.0 || 25.5 30.2 43.5
L18: 24.6 29.6 :D---- || 25.0 30.0 xx.x
Max pits on Lap16, and thus has a crappy S1 in L17, but look at the rest of them
0.5, 0.5, 0.4, 0.4 seconds quicker.
When Max pits, he is about 1.5s behind LEC. And RBR had a "normal" 2.4s pitstop.
Charles is pushing like a madman to try to overcut, or atleast defend the undercut.
Sure it was from the lead, but some people saying its an unforced error. I will
very much say it was a very forced error, as he was so hard trying to defend the
undercut.
I have so much respect and appreciation for Charles be so willing to put his hands up and admit his own mistakes and/or contribution in poor times/races. It's a double-edge sword to hear it from him though, as it's nice to hear often but means he's under-performing often, which is disappointing as I like and respect him overall (despite being in a Ferrari, a team I've LONG disliked).
The thing is, that Leclerc is the only driver with this high skill that has any patience for modern Ferrari, Max and Lewis would be gone within a few weeks. People calling for his replacement forget that any other driver available would do the same as Sainz on a good weekend, 5th or 6th, whereas for Leclerc, that's his bad or "off" weekends.
And not to compare the two directly or anything (so don't come at me old fans), I think his approach and his style and his effect on the Tifosi is very much Gilles Villenueve esc, but that's just my opinion. The bin it or win it mentality that has been missing from F1 for quite a lot of years.
Too much has been made of Leclerc’s crashes this year.
I concede that last year Leclerc bottled it one too many times.
But this year, it’s down to the car
If it's not ferrari or the car, he plants it into the wall himself a lot. Such a shame 😢
To be honest, looking at struggles of Carlos Sainz (yes he had a bit of spins) in Ferrari 2022 (especially at the start of the season) you can not escape the idea of Ferrari being really difficult to drive. And the gap looks like to be bigger between Carlos and Charles in quali. So I think Charles crashing natureof driving is a bit exaggerated.
He's only crashing bc he has to push 110% through every single corner to have a chance of keeping pace. I don't blame Leclerc for trying. I blame Ferrari for not.
He's still crashing a lot.
@@MetalCharlo it’s like you read the whole comment but lack the brainpower to understand any of it
Lol and vettel crashed all on his own. The double standards are quite crazy when it comes to Charles and being a victim of Ferrari
I blame Leclerc, he’s not fighting the Red Bulls, nobody is he needs to accept that and get on with fighting the Aston Martin’s and Mercedes. Right now he is just throwing away points left and right while costing a huge sum of money for Ferrari in an era of budget cap. His crashes will start to affect their ability to bring upgrades.
Well that’s usually the reason why race drivers crash, they go over the limit.
Aldas, I love your F1 insight, you have a crazy knack for explaining all your reasons for why state your facts. I never miss any of your videos. However when you said back in 2014 when Alonso raced actual tractors. pure jokes!
To me Leclerc is modern Gilles Villeneuve. Incredibly quick, but always driving on the limit and has tendency to crash because of it. Leclerc has the speed to become world champion, but I'm still not convinced he has the required consistency even if Ferrari fixes their car issues.
Always driving on the limit might be exciting for fans, but it doesn't tend to be how you win championships. In 79 it was Jody Scheckter who won the title ahead of quicker Villeneuve.
Leclerc single-handedly making all of us feel better about spinning so easily in the F1 22 game
3:31 perfectly sums up the second half of 2018 for Vettel
Ferrari is a big problem for Ferrari, it has ruined Charles.
He now feels like Vettel was feeling at Ferrari
Pure hypothetical of course, but could Leclerc have done what Max did in '21 against prime Hamilton (if Leclerc had a competetive car like the RB)? I dont think so. He wouldnt be able to deal with the pressure and that's the biggest factor.
Think about the pressure Lewis and Max have been put under in the past and look how well they coped with it all. They're a totally different level to Chuck.
Charles won F2 title right after his father died. He won in Monza 2019 under huge pressure from Lewis and from the crowd of tiffosi. So I think he's more than strong enough for the title fight.
@@nikolaybonapartov7379 Exactly this when I hear that he can't handle pressure. Just watch Monza 2019.
I mean isn’t the main issues are:
-car speed
-car reliability
-always slow on development against RB and Merc
-inconsistent pit stop
-strategy
-politics within that team (how many team principals they had when RB and Merc stick with Horner and Toto?)
SF wouldn’t win the title even if the first driver is Max or Lewis. So I am not worried about the driver at all. I am pretty sure if Charles doesn’t need to push 120% those mistakes will go away. After all he didn’t crash at Alfa in 2018. On the other hand when was the last year Ferrari didn’t f*ck themselves up?
" Charles Lecrash " 😆🤣
Max did crash a lot early in his career, but then again he skipped F2. Made sense, he had to adjust.
thank god someone made a video on this. Leclerc is amazing. leclerc is incompetent. he is the most crash prone driver on the grid. he is also the fastest driver on the grid on his day. he needs to smooth it out. it will be the best for the sport. sincerely a max fan.
The cost of total damage between 2 days was 1.4M £ at least. And the budget cap is only 135M$
He’s 25, he still has time to keep learning and improving. We’re getting used to drivers getting younger and younger, so we forget just how young these kids actually are. Max is his age but he has more F1 experience and went through his “Crashstappen” stages early on. So I’m not too worried about Charles tbh. I think he has great things in his future.
But there was much more criticism on Max than on Charles.
@@riancastermans1607 because Max is an AntiHero character. Like Earlier Alonso. The sport always need a "Villain" .
He’s wasting the best years of his career lol. He may only be 25 but regardless of age the amount of time you have at a top team is limited, and leclerc has already spent 4 years at one. Even if leclerc is still at his best in the future if it doesn’t match where Ferrari is they will have to eventually drop him or he will have to leave. And after that his options get fewer and fewer
@@Danker19991 They’re nowhere near dropping the guy that has given them the most amount of race wins since he joined.
We were having the same conversations about Seb, and seb never crashed the Aston in qualifying. I think there is a pretty serious driver coaching issue within Ferrari that pushes overdriving instead of getting the car home in one peice.
Leclerc brothers have a love and hate relationship with the chequered flag.
Leclerc looks like Seb now....😢.
Sainz while a bit slower is able to hit back at the pitwall and see thru their crap strategies more often than Leclerc and startegise for himself.
If he isn't crashing then hes always giving top tier performances
Leclerc fans keep saying he is on max's level,this proves he isnt even close
@@gameofender4463 but George is torpedo Lecler crashing his car only so Lecler is superior to him
@@gameofender4463 please re watch 2022 since he became Merc driver he crashing more often
When you drive a car over the limit you crash. This was the problem with Vettel at Ferrari and early max with the Renault engine. You try and make up 5/10ths of car deficit and dump it from time to time.
About the only ones you dont see it from are Lewis and Fernando.
If any other driver was as crash prone as Charles they would be bullied to death. I think the only reason why people give him a pass is because he's very handsome
Leclerc isn't the fastest in one lap. Verstappen is.
Every f1 team would want to have Charles. I feel that he pushes over the line at times but only when he is forced into that position. Like France GP last year he was pushing the car to try and keep his championship alive.
The Ferrari is not designed to go the extra speed that Charles is going
Then he shouldn't be pushing it over the limit. Simple as that.
@@Whatreally123 midfield mentality
He is extreme annoyeer now with spoiling so many pole position chances for Verstappen.
Yet people are still calling Max “Crashtappen” as if they’re stuck in 2018. While we have Crash Leclerc, or Charles Leclerror.
The hypocrisy of the mainstream coverage of this has been ridiculous. Especially with how they have treated Vettel in recent years and Danny Ric
charles definitely has a crash problem, but it also worth noting how many times he been in the lead or a podium position and his car just breaks down. i feel like i can remember at least 5 or 6 in the last couple of years
That's what happens when you have the 2nd or 3rd best car and are expected to fight for wins and podiums. I think people have forgotten that even Max used to crash a lot back in 2018 and was even nicknamed crashtappen lol. Charles just needs a car that suits his driving style
I actually disagree with you here, leclerc is the only one capable of forcing a result in that Ferrari. Ferrari aren’t competing for any major honors this year, and let’s be frank they don’t need the prize money. The consistent points don’t really matter compared to snagging an unlikely win, so while it’s not a good thing I can excuse leclerc crashing out of pushing too hard
No wonder they call him “Chuck” Leclerc
could you do a data driven comparison of leclerc with verstappen, hamilton, alonso, vettel in their first five years? i think it'd be interesting. and i think myself and alot of f1 fans are new enough to not have seen it firsthand.
Why have people out him on the level of other greats when the guy hasnt done jack to prove it? I like the guy but cmon, he hasnt done much unless everything has fallen in place. Never takes charge, never disagrees with the team and does something about it. People have nicknamed Max as Crashtappen but he has the edge of a champ. Even russell many times has dictated strategy and done something for himself. Carlos did it in britain last year.
Charles is overrated in the sense that hes put in the same league as Max or other champs. Absolutely wrong imo. Let him prove and we'll talk.
I think they should fire him and bring back the goat, the king, Latifi.
To me he does not have a car that can handle the amount of risk and push he puts it through. Until they have a better car he has to manage better and be patient while trying to extract the most out of what the car will allow him to, not easy. Im not a Ferrari fan but I do admire the drivers and their determination. I can only imagine the frustration and difficulties but until something changes one has to manage properly.
I'm grateful you made this video about Charles. He's a great driver, certainly belonging in the conversation of fastest drivers on the grid. But due to the growing number of minor/ big incidents he makes, it can be argued that this is the department he is still lacking in. Consistency and management of risk and reward. While I disagree that his crashes are becoming a big problem for Ferrari, he really does need to calm down and be more methodical in hustling his car around the track trying to get the maximum out of the car. Whilst we do not know if it is pressure seeping in or just Ferrari failing to adjust their car to the drivers' liking, his recent incidents have become comparable to the ones Seb made in 2018. It's likely that he's over pushing the car because he knows the RB 18 & 19 are just superior. Kind of reminds me of how Seb took care of his races in the 2nd half of the 2018 season, where he took risks in a lot of races and ended up backfiring on him. But oh well, Charles is still young, still a bit early to place such doubts on him. It's more imperative that Ferrari get their act together in the development and race to race strategies lol.
The thing is, with redbull being so far and away with the championship, the teams like ferrari and mercedes are being grouped closer to the upper middle like lance stroll and Alpine, meaning there is much more competition than normal, because they have to hold off the upper middle, compete with eachother, and try to beat redbull, that isn't too bad for a driver like alonso or Hamilton who are consistent and safe drivers, but LeClerc is naturally a much riskier driver, so with more pressure he takes more risks, and much riskier plays. He also seems to forget the limits of his car sometimes, trying to stretch it, which in it of itself is a risk, and when the car can't keep up with him he suffers. He just doesn't seem to be able to accept that his car can't beat Max.
I would say that if he had a car on par with redbull he might be ok, but ferrari are too far out of redbull's league, and LeClerc isn't willing to accept that, resulting in him going too far and, in fact, racing too good for his car to handle.
It looks to me as the yamaha motogp situation: they used to had amazing riders like Rossi, Vinales and most of all Quartararo that simply hided the gaps and the limits of the bike, to the point that now they are not enough developed
This is what happens when you have an inferior car compared to your opponent but there is huge pressure on you to match them. You tend to over-push, often leading to mistakes. Wasn't there a time when Verstappen was often nicknamed "Crashtappen" by his critics online because it felt like he made costly mistakes quite often back when Red Bull was not this competitive? It usually happens to any driver who are under pressure to "out-perform" their car in order to compete with others.
Plus, there is no such thing as pushing a car to 110%. You cannot go over 100% of the car's ability, otherwise you either crash or the car breaks down.
Leclerc to Red Bull
Perez to Ferrari
Problem solved!
Leclerc should realize that Ferrari is not racing with Red Bull. They are racing with Aston Martin and Mercedes. He shouldn't push that far to match with RB. He should dial down a notch and fight for 3rd place in every race.
I don't know which is which. Some thought Carlos Sainz was bad timing as well at the moment.
His desire to be on the edge, combined with his ability to handle pressure being less than amazing is just a bad combination.
everyone said the same about max crashing a lot but when you have a driver thats shown his talent is up there with max, you'll support him. out of all the drivers of the big 3 except george, he has the least seasons out of the 6. he's the only driver other than max with the current gen of cars that has a grand slam. and when you consider how much wins he has lost out on through no fault of his own, that can be reason for the crashes. when you dont have consistency with the team, its hard for a driver to have that as well. out of Charles win has it because "he lucked out or he won because of a ferrari strategy". the guy has the talent to match Max and he's shown it, and yes he crashes but id rather have a driver who's got the pace and talent to be the best and learn how to keep it under control like Max than a slow driver who cant increase his pace.
i think leclerc is more of a button or a hill at the moment even a kimi. when the car is in the right window he’s unstoppable. the issue is getting the car into that window consistently. I think he has the capacity for one world championship but with where he’s at right now. i can’t see him winning multiple championships.
Leclerc is crashing because he is having to push that mediocre Ferrari like hell to get anywhere near pole position
I'm not saying that I don't like Leclerc or think he's a bad driver but I've never looked at him and thought future world champion.
That and the fact he had a former 4x world champion on his joining with Ferrari, poised as being better and younger than vettel, leclerc in my eyes was only younger you could say more daring? Inter team mingling at ferrari causing vettel to use a broken chassis ( for 3 races or more? ) and poor setup from his side of the garage all contributed to the often common belief leclerc was better than vettel.
Time will tell, but how things are within Ferrari and Leclercs pressures he's increasingly failing to hide and personal frustrations with the car I doubt he will become a champion, not least with ferrari.
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"But he's driving past the limit of his car to compete, he has a worse car!"
The issue is that he's pushing the car for no reason. He isn't going to beat red bull. Even on pole, he nearly got caught by Alonso in the following race.
If you decide to push the car to p1 when at best you are getting p3, the best thing you will end up doing is getting pole and risking wheel to wheel contact in the race.
There's no point, and it shows in the points totals compared to his teammates. He's taking stupid risks, not smart ones. Yes, you should push as hard as possible, but he clearly doesn't know his limit, or doesn't care.
While I agree with you on most everything you’ve said, if you compare him to max,
Rookie as a backmarker
Wins in 2nd season with top team
2016-2020 finds his groove from being crash prone/over aggressive
That’s 5 seasons of learning before his first title
Charles:
Backmarker team in rookie season
Wins in second season with top team
2019-2023 5 seasons to figure it out
Next season is the tell all for him imo
Whilst I think the comparison is good, Leclerc is 25 going 26, not 22 going 23 like Verstappen was in 2020.
Also there was a clear step up from Max in 2019 and then again in 2022. I’m not sure Leclerc has had a similar step up during the 2019 - 2023 period.
2020* not 2022
@@hurronivich2652 let's also not forget, Max before F1 had 1 year of single seater experience. Charles has gone through the F1 feeder series so his adjustment shouldn't have been as harsh as Max
I’ve not really seen anything that convinces me that Charles is a mega driver - or on a level higher than your average GP driver. He’s done a great job convincing Ferrari that he’s a star , but don’t really see what the fuss is about - am sure loads of other drivers could do as well as he is - they could do a lot worse than swapping him for Danny Ricc 😊
LeClerk is a nice guy and very fast but its at a cost of making his driving crash prone. At Saudi I saw Lando touch a wall and damage his steering and my thought was Thats a rare thing to see. Lando is also very fast but he is consistent and has few errors. To me Lando is a more capable driver to possibly be a wdc. Charles may ultimately be a faster one lap driver but you have to finish the race.
I think one of LeClerc’s problems is that he KNOWS Ferrari isn’t competitive enough (especially over a whole season) to compete for world titles. So he likely feels extreme pressure to stay right on the limit of the car, no matter how difficult it is to stay ON and not OVER it. Over a whole race though that just doesn’t work out, especially in this generation of car. LeClerc seems to just be unable to grasp that these cars CAN’T take kerbs like the last gen, as highlighted by imola last year. LeClerc imo puts more faith in the car than the car deserves, causing him to push over the car’s limits and lose it. LeClerc is a phenomenal driver and I believe with a more comfortable car he could actually contend for titles, but I can’t convince myself LeClerc is anymore than 50% to blame with how mediocre his car has been at Ferrari.
Lol, you dare others to compare leclerc with mick or latifi but in the same sentence, you actually dared to compare leclerc with alonso and verstappen...😂 you can compare leclerc to hamilton because both are just slightly above average f1 drivers, but none of them is top tier like verstappen or alonso.
As a max fan I love the way he drives and I would love to have him on my team . Anyone talking shit is a hater but he is crash prone . Multiple things can be true guys let’s grow up
The real question I have after Miami is did he feeled it? We know that last year Chuck, Chuck LaClair said he feeled it.
Even David Coulthard said on F1 that Leclerc is more prone to crashing g and mistakes than Sainz
i think people forget that: Yes, Leclerc crashes, but look at Ferrari's recent philosophy to building cars. It's all about speed, nothing to do with reliability. Ferrari choose speed over any other variable, so yes while Ferrari were quick last year, they were always unstable. Charles finds around 5 tenths in quali over Sainz and took the most piles in 2019. You dont do that without a reason. The truth (from my perspective) is that modern day Ferrari F1 cars, punish drivers like Charles. Bcs like we saw in almost all of the crashes here, Charles rarely makes "mistakes". It's just a balance in the car that, when being pushed as hard as Charles pushes, becomes an unreliable untrustworthy car. Miami Quali crash was down to inbalance in the car. I feel like yes Charles pushes too hard and has crashed a lot this year, but he hasnt got anything to lose, Ferrari are nowhere and Charles can put them on pole, so why not push like that? If he crashes, oh well on we go, if he doesnt you've just witnessed a top tier driver doing top tier things.
I think you should have mentioned the fact that Leclerc came off the track in his crash at Miami because he tried to push the kerb too hard.
Last week was bad but Leclerc had 1 season for half of the season he had the best car
I do not think for one moment that LeClerc is the quickest guys in F1….if you take out the ability to make wise decisions under pressure, then he is quick? Quickness is all about being under pressure, it’s not something that can be taken away from the equation.
I am obviously taking the piss a bit but remember another driver blaming his crashes on taking more risks than others?
Leclerc is the new Maldonado 🤐
I don't think LeClerc should be compared to Verstappen or Hamilton. I think maybe a Montoya/Massa would be a better peer group.
sometimes trying too hard can get you in more trouble..then good...
It’s a lot like how Verstappen used to be. Once he got the Championship (let’s not argue how) only that’s when I believe his driving to become a lot Calmer. Even in 2021 at times he was pushing way to hard. Even Hamilton as astonishing as his First Season were used to do this from time to time. I would lie to say I remember lots of Alonso from Back in the Day but I wouldn’t be surprised to see it there as well. I believe the Mental „Gold Factor“ is what makes the Difference and eventually I believe he will get there.
We have to realize tho, Max had his crashes while being a teenager who had 1 year of single seater experince before F1. And by the age of 20/21 his act was mostly clean getting some great wins. When he was fighting in 2021, he was very agressive with Lewis, BUT virtually flawless on his own during the season, something that we haven't seen Charles do. When he had a great car in the beginning of last year, he was still making costly mistakes on his own
@@martimxavier9690 that’s why I said alike not the same. Max and Lewis both are in my opinion Mentally stronger. However none of them had to lose someone they deeply cared about at a young age who’s place they have directly taken. It may sound harsh but losing Jules definitely must have done something inside Charles simply for the fact that he is a human being.
He's just sabotaging Ferrari so that he could move to Mercedes and Hamilton to Ferrari
Comparing Charles to Max Fernando Hamilton and Vettel is funny. Leclerc doesn't desrerve to be compared to these legends and also its disrepctful to them. Even Checo is better in the races that Charles right now
One bad weekend and now Checo is better than Charles even tho Leclerc finished higher in the championship last year huh. Recency bias is a hell of a drug…..
I didn't like the fact that Leclerc beat Vettel but I have to concede that he is probably almost as fast as Verstappen in terms of qualifying pace. The performances he pulled in the 2020 Ferrari tractor and 2018 Sauber.....that's speed and talent of a potential world champion
@@entransify Gilles would have been world champion if he didn't tragically lose his life that season.
I agree with the first part but Charles is definitely far far better than Checo.
People like you should pay to use the internet
The ferrari effect is taking it's toll, Sbinalla.
I think the other argument is that the sheer cost of these wrecks prevents money from going into other areas.
If Leclerc were to not continue his ferrari contract after next year and approach Aston for a drive instead of alsonso do you think Aston should take it?
Verstappen was infamously “Crashtappen” for the first few years of his career, then at the 2018 Canadian GP he said he would head butt someone if he gets more questions about it. That’s when his mistakes dropped off dramatically.
Maybe Charles needs to threaten some journalists for his crashes to stop.
Weird how true that is. Wasn't the race before Canada the last crash he caused until like 2021?
Hinestly Leclerc is a driver with more Yin and Yang than any other driver I've seen.
History tells us that drivers like Leclerc will relax in time and become champions. Scheckter is a prime example. Better to have raw pace and be able to dial it back. The other way is not so possible.
Finally Leclerc is getting called out for his mistakes. Blaming Ferrari for everything was boring and unfair.