2:37 No, Piastri didn't sign out of frustration. Alpine had an Option to take Piastri under contract for the F1 team in November. Alpine didn't take the Option. And when Szafnauer wanted to take it in (i think) march, Piastri had already looked somwhere else. This was a fuckup by the Alpine Management. Edit: Szafnauer wasn't TP in that November, he just got the blame for it.
Laurent Rossi was responsible for Piastri AND Alonso falling through. Otmar literally warned him not to toy with Alonso or keep Oscar waiting. Rossi ignored Otmar + blamed him.
Also, Alonso wasn’t angry over or _even at Alpine_ yet when EO got the 3-yr extension (another genius Rossi move). Ocon had zero options yet Rossi handcuffed the team to EO which was why they didn’t have space for both Alonso and Piastri. Imagine losing both those drivers because you decided to give Ocon a guaranteed 3-yr extension despite the fact they could have signed him to a deal which gave them the option to keep or release him at the end of each season. He would have signed that in a second because he had zero sponsors and no other teams interested.
@chrisjohnson3253 Pretty much. Alpine wasn’t aware of the deadline (or Rossi assumed OP wouldn’t dare leave). _But Alonso was aware…_ and engineered the disaster. Webber (FA’s buddy + OP’s manager) & Alonso intentionally timed his AM deal announcement so they’d lose both drivers at once and OP could sign with McLaren. Alonso was angry because Rossi, proving once again how little he knows about F1 or people, tried to play hardball with Fernando and offer a take it or leave it 1+1 deal assuming Alonso would blink.
Yep, Alpine were going to offer Oscar to Williams for up to 3 Years!!! Alpine didn’t have a valid contract with Oscar & McLaren jumped at the chance to sign him…
He had nothing to do w/any of the events he talked about. He literally only came back to Alpine in late summer. Briatore built title winning teams w/Benetton + Renault. Enstone’s lucky to have a competent manager back.
@@The_ZeroLine The current doohan vs colapinto stuff is definitely Briatore's doing. And thats pretty messed up, i mean basically ruining your first ever junior's chance in f1.
Briatore is inheriting the mess Laurent Rossi, who’s 100% responsible for Enstone’s driver debacles + endless management changes, left. As for Jack, who no other team was interested in & FB recognizes is likely a dud, is another inheritance. He is totally justified in lining up a replacement who is both better and brings money to a team that needs it for development. Is F1 a charity or the “pinnacle of performance?” It’s why Doohan was given only a six-race deal in the first place. It’ll be crazy pressure, but the best drivers always manage to prove themselves no matter the situation. I like Jack and hope he succeeds, but the FC deal is just smart planning.
They even gave Jack Doohan the same type of unfair and harsh treatment like Red Bull did with Nyck De Vries. Nyck De Vries be like: "First time, Doohan?"
2022: Loses alonso and piastri 2023: Loses long term key members 2024: Loses Ocon, doesn't trust doohan 2025: Loses Renault engines All that's left is to sell away the team to a more competent company, and nobody will remember anything about alpine in f1. Maybe its time toyota makes a full return and steer away from haas
Colapinto will replace Doohan at some point. Briatore clearly wants him to drive for Alpine and there's nothing Doohan can do to keep his seat even if he exceeds expectations in his performance clause
@@aslamnurfikri7640 you are spot on. Alpine is reported to have paid $8.3 million to buy it Franco’s contract. Given that massive investment, there is no way they’re going to let Franck sit on the sidelines in a reserve driver role. Doohan’s fate has already been decided the rest is just window dressing. Doohan is done.
That's not fair. Jack Doohan didn't even got started with behind the wheel. Uh, Flavio Briatore. Still butchering his drivers as per usual since 1990's. He never learns anything.
Alpine’s biggest mistake was giving Ocon that ludicrous 3- year contract extension in 2021, effectively tying a hand behind their back when it came to managing Alonso and Piastri. For Alonso and Piastri, that worked out for the better for them as I think they’re now in teams who value them more, but Alpine really dropped the ball with the pair of them.
It’s just wrong to say Piastri signed the contract behind Alpine’s back. They didn’t give him for a contract for 2023 so he signed with McLaren and told them as much. And then even after they knew he was already signed with McLaren they tried to announce him as their 2023 driver 😂.
Enstone’s done pretty well for a team that’s “a joke” (finishing ahead of half the field the majority of the time over the last decade), but fans like Simple Jack takes like this.
@The_ZeroLine and yet they have regressed so far as a team who has been a factory team since 2016 and should be doing better. In house engines which hasn't made any difference, losing Piastri and Alonso was pretty laughable, and hiring a driver who they've openly admitted might not last the season. Williams, Haas and to some extent Sauber/Audi demonstrate they have a goal to move forwards. Alpine got one good result in 2024 but can't overshadow they've been pretty poor otherwise
Let's also not forget that Alpine have also signed Ryo Hirakawa (He was signed first this week) for the same job Colapinto is signed up for too (Test and Reserve Driver).
They’ll never be more than an interim solution for great drivers waiting for a better option (Alonso did that 3x w/them lol) until the team is stable + Renault commits to invest or sells to someone who will.
While Doohan isn't regarded as the best from the new generation that doesn't mean anything. Colapinto also wasn't regarded as the best before he joined mid season and showed he's good immediately. But Alpine definitely will hinder them both if they continue this charade to show their full potential
Alpine feels like late 90s to mid 2000s Williams. A revolving door of great and good drivers being let go or simply leaving due to the team losing pace and not taking their drivers seriously.
It's not charity. All drivers get their chance. If the results are not up to expectations, someone else gets a chance. It's that simple. Briatore, like him or hate him, has improved every team he's been in. And you can't debate his eye for talent (Schumacher, Alonso, Webber, etc).
Alpine/Renault are crap no doubt, but Doohan already made his debut before Colapinto signed. I think signing Colapinto was actually the wisest decision they have made in a long time. Rookies are always going to be a risk, and junior formula performance is not an exact science when it comes to moving up to F1 as we have seen many successful juniors fail miserably in F1 and even seen some pretty mid juniors thrive in F1. If Doohan signed a contract which has a 6 race clause he already knew from the off his seat is at risk, so signing Colapinto should be the fire under him to make sure he performs at a level to keep his seat. Colapinto has shown some great pace, but after a strong start he started making serious errors, but he at least has experience. Alpine as a team is a joke, no doubt, but you actually cannot blame them for having a back up. Plus, I am sure Franco brings plenty of money with him.
Would the appointment of franco not be a nod to the new Mercedes partnership and with Williams using Mercedes power units it could be a contractual link
And so did Red Bull with Yuki Tsunoda, Alex Albon, Pierre Gasly, Daniel Ricciardo, Nyck De Vries and Daniel Kvyat. Red Bull is no better than Alpine either after that. So many careers destroyed. Flavio Briatore didn't learn anything after that Crash gate scandal at Singapore in 2009.
Doohan already next on the block, Gasly very likely to pop off if things don’t go well now that he’s seen off Ocon. The end of their poor relationships with drivers will end once Renault are out the team (which might not be long now)
Can we expect anything else but the latest moves from Mr. Briatore ? There are some awesome people on the team itself, but the management is horrifyingly evil and nasty
Doohan feels like a driver nobody wants, and nobody even wants to get to know lol. Even though he did nothing wrong. Yet. In opposition, Piastri is a driver that everyone wanted, and wanted to see. Much like Kimi Antonelli.
I think that saying Alpine are destroying their own drivers is being over specific. If they're just destroying themselves in general, then it naturally follows that they're also destroying their drivers too.
you can leave out Ricciardo, they did right by him. They were building the car specifically to his style, they paid him a tonne, they gave him the publicity/backing, and hein turn left them right when they were finding their groove. Ricciardo sabotaged both himself and Renault at that stage. After that, Renault transitioned the team to Alpine and it seemed like they lost interest due to that domino that Ricciardo set in motion.
In Doohan position, I think I would hand in my resignation. There is nothing especially wrong with Colapinto (if you have a good spares package), but the Briatore decision making process shows that Alpine Renault is not going to be a place to start a career in F1.
no they didn't, ocon got his long term deal in 2021, in alonso's first season back, coz i specifically remember ocon having a drop-off in pace at the 2021 french gp, just after that deal was announced, and the commentators bringing that up during the weekend
I think colopinto must of been offered something because he was test and reserve driver for Williams now he's test and reserve driver for alpine same roles different team he's only done that if he's confident in some way that he will get a seat at alpine
Typical Renault behavior. Enter, climb up, dont know to handle a good standing, anger with drivers, decline, leave the sport… Since the early 80s.. The last time i has been a fan of their stints.
strongly disagree on the fact that alpine shouldnt have kept ocon, over those two years ocon had at least matched alonso and was the man who was supposed to be their poster boy for the medim term future. Even with hindsight letting alonso go made sense, piastri obviously not... anyways this team is a joke and will become hitech soon
2:37 No, Piastri didn't sign out of frustration.
Alpine had an Option to take Piastri under contract for the F1 team in November.
Alpine didn't take the Option.
And when Szafnauer wanted to take it in (i think) march, Piastri had already looked somwhere else.
This was a fuckup by the Alpine Management.
Edit: Szafnauer wasn't TP in that November, he just got the blame for it.
Laurent Rossi was responsible for Piastri AND Alonso falling through. Otmar literally warned him not to toy with Alonso or keep Oscar waiting. Rossi ignored Otmar + blamed him.
Yes so he was frustrated by alpine taking the piss so he signed elsewhere that's what he said
Also, Alonso wasn’t angry over or _even at Alpine_ yet when EO got the 3-yr extension (another genius Rossi move). Ocon had zero options yet Rossi handcuffed the team to EO which was why they didn’t have space for both Alonso and Piastri. Imagine losing both those drivers because you decided to give Ocon a guaranteed 3-yr extension despite the fact they could have signed him to a deal which gave them the option to keep or release him at the end of each season. He would have signed that in a second because he had zero sponsors and no other teams interested.
@chrisjohnson3253 Pretty much. Alpine wasn’t aware of the deadline (or Rossi assumed OP wouldn’t dare leave). _But Alonso was aware…_ and engineered the disaster. Webber (FA’s buddy + OP’s manager) & Alonso intentionally timed his AM deal announcement so they’d lose both drivers at once and OP could sign with McLaren. Alonso was angry because Rossi, proving once again how little he knows about F1 or people, tried to play hardball with Fernando and offer a take it or leave it 1+1 deal assuming Alonso would blink.
Yep, Alpine were going to offer Oscar to Williams for up to 3 Years!!! Alpine didn’t have a valid contract with Oscar & McLaren jumped at the chance to sign him…
This is a certified Flavio Briatore moment
I don’t like that squirrel
Once a beast always a beast .
He had nothing to do w/any of the events he talked about. He literally only came back to Alpine in late summer. Briatore built title winning teams w/Benetton + Renault. Enstone’s lucky to have a competent manager back.
@@The_ZeroLine The current doohan vs colapinto stuff is definitely Briatore's doing. And thats pretty messed up, i mean basically ruining your first ever junior's chance in f1.
Briatore is inheriting the mess Laurent Rossi, who’s 100% responsible for Enstone’s driver debacles + endless management changes, left. As for Jack, who no other team was interested in & FB recognizes is likely a dud, is another inheritance. He is totally justified in lining up a replacement who is both better and brings money to a team that needs it for development. Is F1 a charity or the “pinnacle of performance?” It’s why Doohan was given only a six-race deal in the first place. It’ll be crazy pressure, but the best drivers always manage to prove themselves no matter the situation. I like Jack and hope he succeeds, but the FC deal is just smart planning.
Alpine. Desperate, Greedy, Clueless.
French
They even gave Jack Doohan the same type of unfair and harsh treatment like Red Bull did with Nyck De Vries.
Nyck De Vries be like: "First time, Doohan?"
2022: Loses alonso and piastri
2023: Loses long term key members
2024: Loses Ocon, doesn't trust doohan
2025: Loses Renault engines
All that's left is to sell away the team to a more competent company, and nobody will remember anything about alpine in f1. Maybe its time toyota makes a full return and steer away from haas
What next they are going to lose their touching factory 😂😂😂
Yeah, because Toyotas first venture into F1 went SO WELL, didn't it???😂😂😂😂😂
@@Spike-sk7ql and look at where that got them, try to sound less stupid next time
I wouldn't call Ocon a loss...
@@Randomvideos-zi7pe stupid? He makes a good point
Alpine make Lance Stroll look competent....
Colapinto will replace Doohan at some point. Briatore clearly wants him to drive for Alpine and there's nothing Doohan can do to keep his seat even if he exceeds expectations in his performance clause
@@aslamnurfikri7640 you are spot on. Alpine is reported to have paid $8.3 million to buy it Franco’s contract. Given that massive investment, there is no way they’re going to let Franck sit on the sidelines in a reserve driver role.
Doohan’s fate has already been decided the rest is just window dressing. Doohan is done.
“I’m an F1 fan and I speak in absolutes because I think I know everything”
That's not fair. Jack Doohan didn't even got started with behind the wheel.
Uh, Flavio Briatore. Still butchering his drivers as per usual since 1990's. He never learns anything.
@@kevingarcia6368 it is sad.
@@teamredgutz399 I'm afraid so. Even for a professional that's a headache.
Alpine’s biggest mistake was giving Ocon that ludicrous 3- year contract extension in 2021, effectively tying a hand behind their back when it came to managing Alonso and Piastri.
For Alonso and Piastri, that worked out for the better for them as I think they’re now in teams who value them more, but Alpine really dropped the ball with the pair of them.
It’s just wrong to say Piastri signed the contract behind Alpine’s back. They didn’t give him for a contract for 2023 so he signed with McLaren and told them as much. And then even after they knew he was already signed with McLaren they tried to announce him as their 2023 driver 😂.
What I don't understand from Alpine is that they already signed Paul Aron to be their reserve just a few months ago
And they've also signed Ryo Hirakawa (who is one of Toyota's hypercar drivers) as a reserve driver
And they also have Franco Colapinto has reserve driver. I don’t think Alpine should hire another young driver to replace Doohan
@@AnarRamazanov-po5le Well, you do need a reserve for the reserve. And of course, a reserve for the reserve of your reserve, just in case.
How many reserves do they have???
The team is a joke 😂
Enstone’s done pretty well for a team that’s “a joke” (finishing ahead of half the field the majority of the time over the last decade), but fans like Simple Jack takes like this.
French team with French management ? What do you expect ?
@The_ZeroLine and yet they have regressed so far as a team who has been a factory team since 2016 and should be doing better. In house engines which hasn't made any difference, losing Piastri and Alonso was pretty laughable, and hiring a driver who they've openly admitted might not last the season.
Williams, Haas and to some extent Sauber/Audi demonstrate they have a goal to move forwards. Alpine got one good result in 2024 but can't overshadow they've been pretty poor otherwise
It's a yoke
@@Darko_Milosevski03 haha. At least that’s funny.
You are so right that Alpine got lucky af with Pierre. He doesnt deserve this level of chaos and noise around him.
Let's also not forget that Alpine have also signed Ryo Hirakawa (He was signed first this week) for the same job Colapinto is signed up for too (Test and Reserve Driver).
that makes it 3 (three) reserve drivers cause Paul Aron is also there
Thx for reading my comment and producing this vid, Aldas! I always love watching your videos during lunch.
They’ll never be more than an interim solution for great drivers waiting for a better option (Alonso did that 3x w/them lol) until the team is stable + Renault commits to invest or sells to someone who will.
I wonder if Ricciardo had stayed at Alpine and kept consistent form of beating Ocon, would it have been an all Aussie lineup of Ricciardo and Piastri?
That would’ve been sick
While Doohan isn't regarded as the best from the new generation that doesn't mean anything. Colapinto also wasn't regarded as the best before he joined mid season and showed he's good immediately. But Alpine definitely will hinder them both if they continue this charade to show their full potential
Alpine feels like late 90s to mid 2000s Williams. A revolving door of great and good drivers being let go or simply leaving due to the team losing pace and not taking their drivers seriously.
Of course. It's a french team. What did you expect lol.
Savage...
Did you forget about Ligier or Matra?
It's not charity.
All drivers get their chance. If the results are not up to expectations, someone else gets a chance. It's that simple.
Briatore, like him or hate him, has improved every team he's been in. And you can't debate his eye for talent (Schumacher, Alonso, Webber, etc).
Alpine/Renault are crap no doubt, but Doohan already made his debut before Colapinto signed.
I think signing Colapinto was actually the wisest decision they have made in a long time. Rookies are always going to be a risk, and junior formula performance is not an exact science when it comes to moving up to F1 as we have seen many successful juniors fail miserably in F1 and even seen some pretty mid juniors thrive in F1. If Doohan signed a contract which has a 6 race clause he already knew from the off his seat is at risk, so signing Colapinto should be the fire under him to make sure he performs at a level to keep his seat. Colapinto has shown some great pace, but after a strong start he started making serious errors, but he at least has experience.
Alpine as a team is a joke, no doubt, but you actually cannot blame them for having a back up. Plus, I am sure Franco brings plenty of money with him.
I love Aldas
Would the appointment of franco not be a nod to the new Mercedes partnership and with Williams using Mercedes power units it could be a contractual link
Need the season to start so we can get some actual content
Alpine already demoting Aussie boy before Aldas can get attached
alpine getting sold is on my 2025 bingo card
Great video keep it up you're doing amazing things 😁👍
And so did Red Bull with Yuki Tsunoda, Alex Albon, Pierre Gasly, Daniel Ricciardo, Nyck De Vries and Daniel Kvyat.
Red Bull is no better than Alpine either after that. So many careers destroyed. Flavio Briatore didn't learn anything after that Crash gate scandal at Singapore in 2009.
That's the thing, they aren't any better
Personally also hate Red Bull's driver philosophy, and so do many people
I really dislike alpine and I'm glad fernando and piastri are no longer at a mess of a team
Doohan already next on the block, Gasly very likely to pop off if things don’t go well now that he’s seen off Ocon.
The end of their poor relationships with drivers will end once Renault are out the team (which might not be long now)
Can we expect anything else but the latest moves from Mr. Briatore ? There are some awesome people on the team itself, but the management is horrifyingly evil and nasty
This is a Banjo Moment 🪕
And we should start adding Jack 😭
Doohan feels like a driver nobody wants, and nobody even wants to get to know lol.
Even though he did nothing wrong. Yet.
In opposition, Piastri is a driver that everyone wanted, and wanted to see. Much like Kimi Antonelli.
I think that saying Alpine are destroying their own drivers is being over specific. If they're just destroying themselves in general, then it naturally follows that they're also destroying their drivers too.
Team as a whole are completely clueless
you can leave out Ricciardo, they did right by him. They were building the car specifically to his style, they paid him a tonne, they gave him the publicity/backing, and hein turn left them right when they were finding their groove. Ricciardo sabotaged both himself and Renault at that stage. After that, Renault transitioned the team to Alpine and it seemed like they lost interest due to that domino that Ricciardo set in motion.
In Doohan position, I think I would hand in my resignation.
There is nothing especially wrong with Colapinto (if you have a good spares package), but the Briatore decision making process shows that Alpine Renault is not going to be a place to start a career in F1.
They gave Ocon that deal before Alonso even got there. But it was still idiotic. They handcuffed themselves long term to a driver who had no options.
no they didn't, ocon got his long term deal in 2021, in alonso's first season back, coz i specifically remember ocon having a drop-off in pace at the 2021 french gp, just after that deal was announced, and the commentators bringing that up during the weekend
I think colopinto must of been offered something because he was test and reserve driver for Williams now he's test and reserve driver for alpine same roles different team he's only done that if he's confident in some way that he will get a seat at alpine
Doohan will have 7 races.
Already had 1.
Make a video about Redbull with the same energy, seems possible 😆
Typical Renault behavior. Enter, climb up, dont know to handle a good standing, anger with drivers, decline, leave the sport…
Since the early 80s.. The last time i has been a fan of their stints.
Such a French thing to do😂.
strongly disagree on the fact that alpine shouldnt have kept ocon, over those two years ocon had at least matched alonso and was the man who was supposed to be their poster boy for the medim term future. Even with hindsight letting alonso go made sense, piastri obviously not...
anyways this team is a joke and will become hitech soon
Alpine since 2022, has screwed up everyone over and over again, from Fernando to Piastri leaving, plus the Fall in Performance after 2021
This is a certified Crash Gate moment.
How is Briatore still in F1 is beyond me.
The man is toxic. Alpine is toxic. Run Doohan, RUN! ^^
I don't know where Doohan would go though
Martins and Mini (Aron too, I guess) are the ones that need to run