You're an absolute legend! no one goes over anything like this in the detail that you do! Me and I'm sure the retro community appreciates your detail thank you so much!
Amazing video! I managed to fix my cousin's ROB after it had trouble opening it's arms, and had trouble moving it's torso left and right. Thank you very much!
Thats my Fami-Rob! His first problem was that one gear wouldn't even stay on the vertical track. His body just dropped. So as you saw, I glued that one gear in his body. Guess it didn't hold lol. Also the leaf switch in his back was messed up, and the one in his "feet" was slightly off, and he was getting hung up going left and right. The bottom one could be salvaged, but the one in his back could not. Putting him back together was a pain because you put one gear back, and two more would pop out. Thankfully I took plenty of pictures. This was the most comprehensive video I have seen on the subject of fixing Rob. So I hope it helped someone give new life to their old Rob, or fix Ebay junk so he works again. Thanks again for the repair!
I think those wavy metal springs you glued on is supposed to be working as a clutch, so the motor wouldn't be damaged when Rob is already at his end movement position but the motor keeps spinning for another second or so. I wonder if glueing those springs down would damage things over time. Maybe glueing a rubber ring on to the gear side between the springs and the gear would be a better idea to create more friction for reliable movements?
That’s interesting, I think the metal components might be a clutch. But it’s also very clear that Nintendo glued them to the plastic as well. You can see that glue on untouched ones that still work
@@LIRetroGaming I guess it's kinda hard to figure out how things were originally. Maybe the metal wavy part was glued on on only one side to prevent slippage from at least there? As long as everything is working better than before, things are fine, i guess, as long as the motors are ok with it. we should ask them *lol* ^_~
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I always wanted one of these as a kid. One of the things that occurred to me as you were working on this was whether or not someone should go into a Rob and model all his gears so they can be 3D printed at a later date for replacements. Otherwise, great video as always!
i had that same thought. youll be glad to know someone out there are 3D printing spare "clamp" hands and theyre actually not bad quality. mine can pick up the gyros so yeah you could 3D print a bunch of spare parts for R.O.B
@@LIRetroGaming tho wanted to make note tho! I wish I had your video back when I was working on mine! Who I used was ok, but 2010s era was tricky to find any HD in depth tutorials on this. You did a fantastic job!
I was so overjoyed when I bought a near mint condition in box deluxe set back in 2008 at Play N Trade in Prien Lake Mall paid like $ 200 + something like that. I would love a 3rd party to develop some new game for him it would be wonderful especially with a new accessory play set
Interesting that one of the gear racks in the center column is just for show. Looks like it was designed to have two gears but Nintendo only installed one to save a few Yen. What would be neat to see is how it does the up and down movement and the arm movement separately with the gearing connecting left and right uses a common shaft with the up/down final gear bonded to it. An experiment to try would be to quiet the gear noise with some of that thin yet super sticky white grease often used on plastic gears driven by small electric motors.
thats good to see, thats the issue with mine, failed slip gears, those metal/plastic assemblies are supposed to allow it to move if forced or if it goes past its intended bounds, but be rigid enough that it will move and hold position, got mine today and first issue i found after fixing the battery corrosion was the rotation not working and the rail movement isnt quite right, but im fairly sure that part is just it needing to be cleaned
I’ve had one since I was a kid, recently booted him up for the first time in 10ish years. Doesn’t fall or do anything dramatic lol but he gets stuck when coming back around. Maybe giving my old pal a tune-up would be a fun project to help cope with midterms!
Update: I fixed him! And then the motor started grinding horribly and sticking again right after.🥲😂 not a huge deal. R.O.Bs still R.O.B, and he’ll always be my little childhood buddy lol. Maybe someday I’ll buy new parts and properly get him working again!
Those wave washers look to me like a rudimentary slipper clutch which are designed to give under load i.e when a kid presses down when they shouldn't. I think what has happened over time is that those washers have lost their tension so the gears slip under not much load. Your fix will work but you will have lost the functionality of the slipper function. .
That is for sure a clutch. The correct repair is to replace the spring that has lost it's tension over time. By gluing it shut, if the arm ever gets caught against something, it's going to break the gears or motor instead of slipping.
Ugh... I still have my ROB that I bought. I tried to open him up to fix him when I was much younger. All the gears fell out. I think I put them all back.
I'd probably use an epoxy or a specific glue that chemically bonds specific plastics for something that moves. Kragle tends to be temporary and brittle, especially over time. ;3
Thanks, just got a famicom rob and he wouldn't move up/down the gear in between the metal would rotate, glue on the wavy piece like on the bottom should fix it
This video is helping me attempt to repair a ROB I just bought with most of the accessories. He has trouble going up without "assistance", and cannot turn at all. Should I add any type of lubricant to the gears, and if so what kind? I also have found that when I manually rotate the gear sets for either the base or torso they only like to rotate in one direction. Going the opposite direction makes the gears pop out! Is this just because the unit is opened or do I need to fix something else?
Not sure where to get replacements other than from another ROB. Although there are plastic gears that can be purchased, you probably need to know the diameter of the gear and the number of teeth
Great video, thank you. The problem I are having with mine is that while he moves up and down he does not stop at the correct points in either direction. Mine always skips a step in the vertical movement (effectively having 3 up and down stops instead of 6, 4 if you count bottoming out) but I do hear the leaf switch clicking in position. Those 3 positions however work perfect. Any idea how to fix it?
I tryed it a while back but i failed to get it working properly,, i sometimes wish Nintendo just used square shaped metal sticks instead wich were only round at the edge and if nintendo just designed those gears in that they could only fit to those metal gears, this sothat those gears would never slip off, this sothat you never had to glue them again,if, I still think that a company could make modern gears for those rob robots sothat you never have to replace them again.
Do you happen to know where I can get replacement discs for ROB or if they can be 3D printed? I picked up a "Like New" Deluxe Set and the discs are missing.
I believe that there are some 3-D printed projects that allow you to make new gyros for gyromite. That being said, it’s not too difficult to find replacement gyros out there.
Great video, thank you. The problem we are having with ours is that while he moves up and down he does not stop at the correct points in either direction. Probably related to this is that when rob reaches both the top and the bottom the motor clearly runs for another few seconds as if it doesn't realize it has reached the top or bottom. This is really a problem when trying to spin the gyro because he doesn't stop moving down and his arms push down on the gyro disc so it stops spinning. Do you have any thoughts what needs to be repaired or adjusted for this issue?
There’s a little switch on his back that helps determine where his vertical position is, And sometimes it gets misaligned when you reassemble it. Can you check and make sure that it’s in the right spot?
I repaired the vertical cog mechanism. But there's an odd clicking sound when he lowers himself. Is this normal? It seems to work fine, but I worry it may be breaking slowly.
@@LIRetroGaming reopened, made sure cogs were comfy, put some lithium grease, still makes clicking. I guess it's not a problem, or maybe the sensor clip at the back is catching?
What does it actually do, though? The grey version has coloured cylinders on supports that slot into the base. Does it play Towers of Hanoi with them or something?
This was five months ago so you've probably already found out the answer. For anyone else reading though: R.O.B helps you play two games: Gyromite and Stack Up. In Gyromite he moves a spinning top onto a button when commanded which shifts doors back and forth to help the player move forwards and avoid enemies. This uses another attachment which isn't shown in the video. In Stack Up you're shown an arrangement of the coloured cylinders which you must recreate by having ROB move them back and forth until they're in the correct order. This game doesn't have a method of testing if you've played correctly though, it works on an honour system. Hope that helps!
I think those gears are supposed to be tight but not glued that way if rob get jammed they give in and spin instead of breaking any of the other gears I would be hesitant to glue them
That might be the case, but either way there used to be an adhesive added from the factory. I have seen the adhesive on some ROBs that are still fully working
@@LIRetroGaming turns out your right I wasn’t having anY luck with anything else so i gave it a shot and it works great now great video👍 any idea how to make the gears less noise
I would check to see if the voltage from the battery is getting to the main controller pcb. I would also clean the power switch to make sure it’s working properly
I turned mine on and it immediately went to the left and continues a grinding noise. Do you have any idea on how to fix it? I bought a rob off ebay for my boyfriend for our anniversary, but I dont want to give him a broken one. I would appreciate some help as I dont really know where to start to help fix him. Thanks!
When you first power on Rob, he is supposed to make that movement. He always starts with a “home “position. So it’s very likely that yours works just fine
@@LIRetroGaming thank you so much for answering so quickly! I appreciate the answer. I just wanted to make sure everything was okay with him. His glue on the inside was fine so it was confusing me. I will be trying it with one of my friend's CRT tvs sometime soon so fingers crossed that it works like you said!
@@LIRetroGaming hello again! I tested my rob the other day and he does work, so thank you for your input. I was hoping that you had one more piece of insight. My rob goes left, right, and down but not up. Do you think that this could be a motor issue within the rob? Thanks!
My rob isn't working due to yes the gears but I can't get him to respond to the game I had to repair my NES and yes the boiling method did work for the most part but unfortunately rob will not respond to the god damn TV
You're an absolute legend! no one goes over anything like this in the detail that you do! Me and I'm sure the retro community appreciates your detail thank you so much!
Thanks so much for that, I really appreciate the feedback and I try to help out as much as possible
Amazing video! I managed to fix my cousin's ROB after it had trouble opening it's arms, and had trouble moving it's torso left and right. Thank you very much!
Thanks! Really glad to hear that this video helped and now it’s working
@@LIRetroGaming can you use Rob on a new TV that’s small?
Thats my Fami-Rob! His first problem was that one gear wouldn't even stay on the vertical track. His body just dropped. So as you saw, I glued that one gear in his body. Guess it didn't hold lol. Also the leaf switch in his back was messed up, and the one in his "feet" was slightly off, and he was getting hung up going left and right. The bottom one could be salvaged, but the one in his back could not. Putting him back together was a pain because you put one gear back, and two more would pop out. Thankfully I took plenty of pictures. This was the most comprehensive video I have seen on the subject of fixing Rob. So I hope it helped someone give new life to their old Rob, or fix Ebay junk so he works again. Thanks again for the repair!
No problem Frank! Glad everything worked out and now your robot is back to life!
Rob the Robot Gyro simply doesn't get enough love I'm so glad you've done a vid on fixing him saved a piece of gaming history
Just repaired the gears of my ROB because of this video, thanks!
Glad to hear it!
I think those wavy metal springs you glued on is supposed to be working as a clutch, so the motor wouldn't be damaged when Rob is already at his end movement position but the motor keeps spinning for another second or so. I wonder if glueing those springs down would damage things over time. Maybe glueing a rubber ring on to the gear side between the springs and the gear would be a better idea to create more friction for reliable movements?
That’s interesting, I think the metal components might be a clutch. But it’s also very clear that Nintendo glued them to the plastic as well. You can see that glue on untouched ones that still work
@@LIRetroGaming I guess it's kinda hard to figure out how things were originally. Maybe the metal wavy part was glued on on only one side to prevent slippage from at least there? As long as everything is working better than before, things are fine, i guess, as long as the motors are ok with it. we should ask them *lol* ^_~
Friday is not Friday if I don't get a Fix it Friday episode!
I always wanted one of these as a kid. One of the things that occurred to me as you were working on this was whether or not someone should go into a Rob and model all his gears so they can be 3D printed at a later date for replacements. Otherwise, great video as always!
Yeah it would be great to be able to reproduce those gears. However I think some of them might be standard sizes that can still be purchased
i had that same thought. youll be glad to know someone out there are 3D printing spare "clamp" hands and theyre actually not bad quality. mine can pick up the gyros so yeah you could 3D print a bunch of spare parts for R.O.B
as someone who's worked on multiple R.O.B.s, when you said "he's a fun little project to work on"!" in the beginning i was like "yeah right LOL"
Yeah I hear you lol. It’s starts fun but it can get frustrating
@@LIRetroGaming tho wanted to make note tho! I wish I had your video back when I was working on mine! Who I used was ok, but 2010s era was tricky to find any HD in depth tutorials on this. You did a fantastic job!
I was so overjoyed when I bought a near mint condition in box deluxe set back in 2008 at Play N Trade in Prien Lake Mall paid like $ 200 + something like that. I would love a 3rd party to develop some new game for him it would be wonderful especially with a new accessory play set
I have two ROBs that have gear issues. Thank you for some insight!!
Awesome, glad that the videos are helpful!
Definitely a great fix wich might be doible for everybody😁
Man, I really want a R.O.B. One day!
loving the fix it friday videos! Thank you for sharing your wealth of knowledge.
this is so cool. love the videos. I watch each week keep them coming.
Thanks, I really appreciate the support!
Interesting that one of the gear racks in the center column is just for show. Looks like it was designed to have two gears but Nintendo only installed one to save a few Yen.
What would be neat to see is how it does the up and down movement and the arm movement separately with the gearing connecting left and right uses a common shaft with the up/down final gear bonded to it.
An experiment to try would be to quiet the gear noise with some of that thin yet super sticky white grease often used on plastic gears driven by small electric motors.
This totally fixed the issue I had with mine! Thanks for another great video!
Fantastic! Glad that you got it working!
thats good to see, thats the issue with mine, failed slip gears, those metal/plastic assemblies are supposed to allow it to move if forced or if it goes past its intended bounds, but be rigid enough that it will move and hold position, got mine today and first issue i found after fixing the battery corrosion was the rotation not working and the rail movement isnt quite right, but im fairly sure that part is just it needing to be cleaned
I’ve had one since I was a kid, recently booted him up for the first time in 10ish years. Doesn’t fall or do anything dramatic lol but he gets stuck when coming back around. Maybe giving my old pal a tune-up would be a fun project to help cope with midterms!
Update: I fixed him! And then the motor started grinding horribly and sticking again right after.🥲😂 not a huge deal. R.O.Bs still R.O.B, and he’ll always be my little childhood buddy lol. Maybe someday I’ll buy new parts and properly get him working again!
Those wave washers look to me like a rudimentary slipper clutch which are designed to give under load i.e when a kid presses down when they shouldn't. I think what has happened over time is that those washers have lost their tension so the gears slip under not much load. Your fix will work but you will have lost the functionality of the slipper function. .
That is for sure a clutch. The correct repair is to replace the spring that has lost it's tension over time. By gluing it shut, if the arm ever gets caught against something, it's going to break the gears or motor instead of slipping.
Ugh... I still have my ROB that I bought. I tried to open him up to fix him when I was much younger. All the gears fell out. I think I put them all back.
I'd probably use an epoxy or a specific glue that chemically bonds specific plastics for something that moves. Kragle tends to be temporary and brittle, especially over time. ;3
Thanks, just got a famicom rob and he wouldn't move up/down
the gear in between the metal would rotate, glue on the wavy piece like on the bottom should fix it
This video is helping me attempt to repair a ROB I just bought with most of the accessories. He has trouble going up without "assistance", and cannot turn at all. Should I add any type of lubricant to the gears, and if so what kind? I also have found that when I manually rotate the gear sets for either the base or torso they only like to rotate in one direction. Going the opposite direction makes the gears pop out! Is this just because the unit is opened or do I need to fix something else?
Hi, cool video. I am missing two gears in the main body. Any idea where to get them from?
Not sure where to get replacements other than from another ROB. Although there are plastic gears that can be purchased, you probably need to know the diameter of the gear and the number of teeth
Can you fix my gamecube?
It’s internal battery is broken and it keeps resetting every time i turn it on
Great video, thank you. The problem I are having with mine is that while he moves up and down he does not stop at the correct points in either direction. Mine always skips a step in the vertical movement (effectively having 3 up and down stops instead of 6, 4 if you count bottoming out) but I do hear the leaf switch clicking in position. Those 3 positions however work perfect. Any idea how to fix it?
I tryed it a while back but i failed to get it working properly,, i sometimes wish Nintendo just used square shaped metal sticks instead wich were only round at the edge and if nintendo just designed those gears in that they could only fit to those metal gears, this sothat those gears would never slip off, this sothat you never had to glue them again,if,
I still think that a company could make modern gears for those rob robots sothat you never have to replace them again.
Do you happen to know where I can get replacement discs for ROB or if they can be 3D printed? I picked up a "Like New" Deluxe Set and the discs are missing.
I believe that there are some 3-D printed projects that allow you to make new gyros for gyromite. That being said, it’s not too difficult to find replacement gyros out there.
Great video, thank you. The problem we are having with ours is that while he moves up and down he does not stop at the correct points in either direction. Probably related to this is that when rob reaches both the top and the bottom the motor clearly runs for another few seconds as if it doesn't realize it has reached the top or bottom. This is really a problem when trying to spin the gyro because he doesn't stop moving down and his arms push down on the gyro disc so it stops spinning. Do you have any thoughts what needs to be repaired or adjusted for this issue?
There’s a little switch on his back that helps determine where his vertical position is, And sometimes it gets misaligned when you reassemble it. Can you check and make sure that it’s in the right spot?
Cool
I repaired the vertical cog mechanism. But there's an odd clicking sound when he lowers himself. Is this normal?
It seems to work fine, but I worry it may be breaking slowly.
It sounds like something might be installed wrong when you reassembled it. But it’s hard to know for sure without looking at it
@@LIRetroGaming I better reopen and check. Putting it back was soooo fiddly though. :(
@@LIRetroGaming reopened, made sure cogs were comfy, put some lithium grease, still makes clicking. I guess it's not a problem, or maybe the sensor clip at the back is catching?
Wacky, but very cool!
What does it actually do, though? The grey version has coloured cylinders on supports that slot into the base. Does it play Towers of Hanoi with them or something?
This was five months ago so you've probably already found out the answer.
For anyone else reading though:
R.O.B helps you play two games: Gyromite and Stack Up.
In Gyromite he moves a spinning top onto a button when commanded which shifts doors back and forth to help the player move forwards and avoid enemies. This uses another attachment which isn't shown in the video.
In Stack Up you're shown an arrangement of the coloured cylinders which you must recreate by having ROB move them back and forth until they're in the correct order. This game doesn't have a method of testing if you've played correctly though, it works on an honour system.
Hope that helps!
@@ITNODove That's great! Thanks, buddy. =)
Tempted to save up for one but if one is yellowed would it be safe to retrobrite it?
Yes you can remove these plastics and Retrobrite them
I think those gears are supposed to be tight but not glued that way if rob get jammed they give in and spin instead of breaking any of the other gears I would be hesitant to glue them
That might be the case, but either way there used to be an adhesive added from the factory. I have seen the adhesive on some ROBs that are still fully working
@@LIRetroGaming turns out your right I wasn’t having anY luck with anything else so i gave it a shot and it works great now great video👍 any idea how to make the gears less noise
My r.o.b doesnt turn on do you know any possible solutions? Yes it has fresh batteries
I would check to see if the voltage from the battery is getting to the main controller pcb. I would also clean the power switch to make sure it’s working properly
@@LIRetroGaminghow do I check that?
Couldn't you power Rob from the controller port instead batteries?
No it has to use the AA batteries
I turned mine on and it immediately went to the left and continues a grinding noise. Do you have any idea on how to fix it? I bought a rob off ebay for my boyfriend for our anniversary, but I dont want to give him a broken one. I would appreciate some help as I dont really know where to start to help fix him. Thanks!
When you first power on Rob, he is supposed to make that movement. He always starts with a “home “position. So it’s very likely that yours works just fine
@@LIRetroGaming thank you so much for answering so quickly! I appreciate the answer. I just wanted to make sure everything was okay with him. His glue on the inside was fine so it was confusing me. I will be trying it with one of my friend's CRT tvs sometime soon so fingers crossed that it works like you said!
@@LIRetroGaming hello again! I tested my rob the other day and he does work, so thank you for your input. I was hoping that you had one more piece of insight. My rob goes left, right, and down but not up. Do you think that this could be a motor issue within the rob? Thanks!
So you don't need a Nintendo to control the movement. You can use any computer to flash the CRT.
Yes, an emulator connected to a crt or a mister FPGA will work
@@LIRetroGaming I mean you could even use C64 to generate such flashes. That might be pretty interesting.
There was no glue in it you must Puch it together than its good no glue used
My rob isn't working due to yes the gears but I can't get him to respond to the game
I had to repair my NES and yes the boiling method did work for the most part but unfortunately rob will not respond to the god damn TV
Are you using a CRT? He will not work on a modern tv