Following Tradition vs. Finding Your Own Way. MOANA with guest Ana Katia
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- How do you balance honoring the traditions of your family and where you come from with following your calling and finding your own path in life?
Licensed therapist Jonathan Decker, filmmaker Alan Seawright, and special guest author Ana Katia talk about their experiences and insights with this in our newest episode of Cinema Therapy.
Ana shares some of her journey of relating to Moana and being inspired by her courage to follow her dreams.
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I love the grandmother’s role in moana’s childhood, as she teaches moana about their forgotten heritage of being voyagers, she reassures her that she isn’t deserting her people and culture by following her own path in life, because even though it initially feels like she’s trying to escape her role/responsibility on the island, she’s actually carving out her own place within it. She follows tradition to find her own way.
i love her as well! she made me tear up (especially her speech to moana besides the sea)
Couldn't have said it better myself guys
Yes! I also love the role she plays when she appears on the boat as a spirit. She reminds Moana she is strong and supported, despite the set backs she has encountered. She doesn't tell her we're all counting on you so get going or remind her of the pressure on her shoulders. She simply makes sure Moana knows she is proud of her, and that if this is all too much and she wants to go home, she will still be proud of her. I think that's so important because disappointing someone you love is such a real fear. To hear that their love is not dependant on you doing everything perfectly, which is extremely unrealistic, but instead is just based on you being yourself, it's very reassuring. She reminds Moana she has the power to try again if she wishes, but also that she is not a failure for not trying again if she wishes. That the most crucial thing is she stays true to and listens to herself, whether her decision be to carry on or return home.
YESSS!
My grandmother is from the island of Samoa. She had taught me so much about the culture, and gave me my first ukulele. I first watched Moana at her house. It reminds me of her everytime. The grandmother in this movie always makes me tear up. Since then, she has passed away, but she had given me something that had started it all for me. I have been playing for 3 and a half years, and it's been great! I miss my Grandma, but this movie always makes me think of her.
"Why don't we all move to Polynesia?"
"Because we would probably ruin it"
Very true!
Underrated comment
* sad native american noises*
Already did
They Already did💀
if taht was a "white people are bad" joke, its pretty unfunny and distatseful -___- (yes, im a black girl)
"It's our calling, bro" everything is better if you have someone to do it with
So true.
Jolly Cooperation!
@@crestfallensunbro6001 \o/
Ikr
Eh. Social distancing isnt
One thing this movie actually did for me was to reinforce an idea that I learned from a class in college, which is that tradition endures not because it is rigid, but because it is flexible. Moana didn't break away from her culture's tradition, but rather broke away from the strict rules put in place to protect her people, and in surviving the dangers her ancestors did, rediscovered knowledge that even her grandma hadn't known. The movie doesn't end with her sailing off by herself. It ends with her bringing her family with her. Tradition grows and adapts with each new person that takes it on. Each new person is another root feeding the plants of tradition, acquiring new ideas, perspectives and technology, and sometimes reaching even deeper than some of the ones that grew before them, to blend with their heritage in unique and beautiful ways that make up the great forest of their culture.
not many seam to of noticed. Finding Your Own Way you will find something and it becomes a Tradition over time. in this film strangely the old way is returned by her finding her own way. so its not really her own way its her ancestors.
Lovely perspective! We can finally stop resisting tradition and start evolving it!!!
This was very well put.
Beautiful.
All except Western Tradition/Culture right? Or so it appears to me. That thing should be totally destroyed and not even allowed to evolve (no cultural appropriation allowed), so I am told. Why is there such hate in the heart of progressives towards their own western culture? I wonder
Oh boy, imagine if they did an analysis of avatar the last airbender.
We'll put it on the list.
That’s a great idea!
@@CinemaTherapyShow I would pay for that with my own fucking money
@@CinemaTherapyShow Please make it a multi-part series for each season!! There is SO much EXCELLENT content! Plus it's a popular show, more videos on it, more clicks; and for once I want a channel to really grow lol. You guys are awesome!
@@CinemaTherapyShow it has to be the show not the movie
musician's pov: i love how when she says "whats wrong with me" it goes to a diminished chord. very fitting
She’s just feeling a bit diminished lol.
Yes, the fact that it's almost a different key, like it doesn't fit in the song, just as she's feeling she doesn't fit within her culture.
That's a testament to the brilliance of Lin Manuel Miranda. He puts all kinds of things like this in Hamilton. If you've seen it, the one that comes to mind is when Eliza is practicing French and playing piano with Phillip. Eliza's character embodies contentment and a family life "being enough" whereas both Alexander and Phillip embody never being satisfied and always wanting more. So at the end of the second counting verse when going down the scale, Eliza sings "sept, huit, neuf" she ends on a resolved note but Phillip changes the line and ends on a dissonant note giving the impression that he's not finished while she's content being satisfied right where she is. Then when the sing in English they finish on a clash chord highlighting the differences between not only Eliza and Phillip but also Eliza and Alexander.
That's one of the reason why disney Pop versions should be forbiden
@@brandonbuchner1771 yes, its very genius. through the time I've composed, I have never composed for pop or singing, so I just thought its very smart
Some things that I love about this movie include the following: 1. That the village life is not seen as a negative burden on Moana in itself. It’s not what she wants, but she doesn’t resent becoming the chief or try to run away from that specific aspect. 2. Her father is oppressive, but she doesn’t “villainize” him. Of course she doesn’t agree with him, but she doesn’t see him as a foe to be overcome. 3. Her goals are driven not only by her personal desires, but mainly to save her family and her village. 4. The part where the grandmother gives her permission to give up. She doesn’t diminish the overwhelming situation that Moana is in in order to meet the grandmother’s agenda. Even though it will result in others being affected. There is a danger in putting others before yourself and too often this is downplayed in order to meet an agenda
Definitely a parallel here to Angelic Schuyler in Hamilton, “I’ll be satisfied if I play along, but the voice inside sings a different song”
So, yesterday I watched the first episodes of the fourth season of Big Mouth. The last episode I've seen was the one where Missy (who has a white mum and a black dad) visits her cousins and they tell her that her parents suck basically. Her dad didn't teach her about "black culture" and doesn't live it himself. He decided to just be himself and follow the way that he wants. Both he and his wife are professors, so what he's passionate about is science and knowledge, which is what he gave to his daughter. Missy's cousins take her out to get sexier clothes and her hair done for the first time because her mum, who doesn't seem to care about her own looks that much herself, always kept Missy's hair simple. Missy calls out her parents for not teaching her anything about "being black", which seems to be one of the first time that she's ever fought with her parents, whom she calls her best friends.
I really wonder where the series is going with this. Does this want to say that you're a bad parent if your skin looks a certain way and you don't teach your kid certain things? Because why does Missy's dad have to teach her certain things? Missy is already on a great path, having found multiple things she's passionate about. Also, her parents love her, and apart from certain times she has a stable, happy personality. So is it really wrong that her parents decided to teach her different things?
I'm not American, so I don't know this theme that well from my own country. It's not unusual at all that people of colour date white people. One of my best friends, who is half Gambian, half Polish, only ever dated people with a light skin, and no one found this odd. I don't feel like there's any pressure for her to teach her kids that she might have at some point specific things, just because of her looks.
I'm really wondering where the series is going. Just wanted to add my thoughts because this fits the theme of following your heritage vs. following who you are well.
@@ArtistaGirl192 Lin really can't escape, can he?
@@solar0wind I also watched the season and felt exactly the same way. The only crime I felt the parents had committed was washing her hair with a 6 in 1, 😣 horrible for black hair and I highly doubt it's the best for other races' hair either.
I didn't mind much when Missy was first mad at her parents for not teaching her how to be black because I thought in the following episodes she'll realise that doing stereotypical 'black' things or wearing certain clothes doesn't determine how 'black' she is and she can know her heritage and history without necessarily changing herself to fit this mold but that didn't happen. Instead she got braids, the end.
@@internetcookie2064 I haven't watched the show, but I'm assuming that she's a teenager. I'm assuming that because your teenage years are when you pull back from your parents and start taking more cues from your peer group. It's a completely natural progression of searching out an identity that is separate from your parents. For a few years there, the tendency is to throw out the baby with the bathwater, going completely overboard as you chuck out everything that you used to be, looking for who you want to be. After a while, with a little growth, you start adding back in those things which you actually loved and which were really part of your own identity and you want to keep. But, before you can know who you are, you have to figure out who you're not and it sounds like that's where the character is now.
"it is through our failures that we succeed" never a truer word spoken.
Thank you :)
I'm side-eyeing the live action Mulan movie as we speak-
The difference between a master and a novice is that the master has failed more times than the novice has tried.
@@dokadoka4922 it sounds so boring tbh
@@______________5470 they took out all the songs and the romantic interest. I mean I’m all for women empowerment, but it was sort of an essential part of the story lmao
Speaking of tradition, my mother has a story she tells about a young bride who decides to make a large Sunday dinner when they return from their honeymoon. That day, her husband watches her cut both ends off the ham before she puts it in a pan to go in the oven. His mother always served ham with the ends on so he asked her why she cut them off. she replies that she didn't know but her mother had always done it that way. After dinner, the bride calls her mother and asks why she always cut the ends off the ham? The mother responds with I don't know that's how my mother always made it. So the bride called her grandmother to ask why she cut the ends off the ham. The grandmother said that they lived in a small house with an apartment sized oven and the ham wouldn't fit unless she cut the ends off. Basically, sometimes its good to revisit the way things are done to see if it could be done better.
I like that a lot!
Very similarly, my grandma alway made buttermilk biscuits cut in to squares instead of using a round biscuit cutter like the vast majority of people.
One day, when my mom and her siblings were young, my aunt asked why and my grandma said “well, because that’s the way my mom showed me” with a shrug.
But the question bothered Grandma, so she asked her mom about it. Her mom said that when she was a young mother, she had asked her mom the same thing. Turned out that back around 1900 or the late-1800s, her own grandmother had been so poor that she couldn’t afford the penny it cost for a new biscuit cutter when her old one fell apart.
So, to make do, she threw the dough in to a sheet pan and cut the dough in to squares with a knife.
More than 100 years later, several of us in our family still make square biscuits because of this.
Honestly, at this point it’s a fun story and a way of showing that we used the family recipe instead of store-bought, but also it’s a sweet little tradition that reminds us where we came from and how hard our ancestors worked for us to have the privileges we do.
everyone should question their own belief. We just do things that our parents do but don't think about and that is very bad. Like religion, does people really question themselves about why they follow that religion?? what if they don't relate to anything is taught on church but just do it because is the right thing to do?? We should question every single belief we have.
Hopefully in a few more generations, the women of that family will be asking: "Why is cooking for the family a job automatically assigned to me?"
@@fructifer4502 That's a question me and my sister already ask, actually. My mom is is trying to teach my brother's too cook as well, have them make meals and stuff like my sister and I do, but because of the way she was raised it's still her first instinct to have my sister and I do it if she ants a night off. We're working on it though, change comes in shades.
They were talking about how we want to all live in Polynesia but we shouldn’t, this is very true. If you look at Hawai’i, it’s culture has been torn to shreds, it was almost lost. Invasive species have been introduced and because of modern civilization, the ecosystems are dying. The way we live, we can’t be doing this to the few pristine places that are left.
plus it is basically still being held captive by the military...
Yeah, I was gonna say. This movie is actually a metaphor for what has happened to the Polynesian islands environmentally and culturally.
That's what I thought. We already did. We ruined it.
Agree. I'm Maori and lived in NZ for nearly 7 years before moving to the UK. It's a mess.
@@ghosty8193 what’s a mess
As a Maori person, this movie is golden and it hit home for me. I watched it with my kuia and she literally has a tattoo of a stingray on her back like Moana's kuia. I also cried when they sang in te reo maori
My 5 year old son is a bit neurodivergent, and ever since he saw this film, he is obsessed with Maori culture. He knows all the songs and looks down at his little pale tattoo-less chest kind of sadly, bless him. I'm putting money aside to visit, if he met a real life Maui, he would just die of happiness. Love from Scotland xx
@@gemh89 there is a Maori dub of this movie that’s on Disney+. The whole movie is in Maori like all the songs all of the dialogue.
@linaelhabashy4608 You wouldn't know if there is somewhere/subtitles where I can see the actual words and lyrics so he isn't just emulating the sounds?
Also, was talking with some Moari people (some ladies, but a whole bunch of dudes were particularly happy at the sound of them having a wee 5 year old Scottish lad looking up to them, loving them and their culture so much.) They suggested temporary tattoos for him, and when I expressed worry about cultural appropriation (my sis in law is very much a white saviour and would have blown a fuse) I have a list of, like 30 names, who all say that this sounds much more like appreciation and I've to tell her or anyone else who has a problem, to "buzz off"
As a Scot, I'll probably not be quite so polite about it lol.
It's really lovely to see the mutual excitement from both sides at this turn of events.
"Don't do that! Be a villager."
me, on my 3rd year of film college: ...oh.
He was kidding lol.
It's a hard path, but you gotta follow your heart, even if it takes you on a path that's full of potholes and dangerous loops. While it's nice to be a villager, that doesn't mean it's the right path. And tbf, you can be a "villager" with a highly specialized education. I am taking an education in cybernetics, but I have no aspirations to change the world heavily. I'd be happy to be just a cog in the machinery, and, uh... try not to develop unbreakable, unstoppable war-machines.
The ocean is hard to sail. So what. If you want your ocean, are you gonna just stay on your island?
No. You learn to sail.
@@RedRoseSeptember22 I know! I was too lol I love my major ♥️
@@PanthereaLeonis If we ever reach Terminator phase, I'm blaming you (jk). Good luck 💕
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Right!? I mean, we’re amazing!
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because a person's analysis only goes as far as their political bias.
@@CinemaTherapyShow I guess we can walk to random strangers on the street and tell them to subscribe to this then😅
I know right? I just found this channel and I'm baffled they don't have more subscribers, this is amazing
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Alan Tudyk: *clucks*
"I went to Juliard..."
I felt that
I loves him
I laughed so hard😂
I love Tudyk
AND THAT'S WHY HIS CLUCK SOUNDS SO DARN GOOD!!
Would love to see you talk about Azula from Avatar the Last Airbender! I see a lot of people talk about Zuko mostly because it's easier to so I would love to see you cover the ladder his sister Azula
Jonathan here. I've been meaning to watch that series. Heard so many great things. Perfect excuse!
Alan here. I'm currently watching it with my kids. Never seen it before. I get why it's so beloved. GREAT SHOW!!!
@@CinemaTherapyShow I'm glad you're enjoying it! I can't wait to hear your in depth thoughts!! :D
@@CinemaTherapyShow Please tell me that analysis is coming out soon 🙏
@@leigh-anjohnsonwe can't promise "soon," (Jonathan hasn't even watched it yet), but the interest is there, so we'll try to make it happen!
Something I've always liked about Moana is she doesn't reject her duty as chief for the entirety of the movie; she understands her responsibility and knows what she needs to do and the ocean is a main priority.
This is one wonderful interpretation, another reason why I love Moana is that I feel like it demonstrates the difference between extrinsic and intrinsic motivation.
In the beginning she tries to always justfiy her going out on the ocean with other reasons, that it will help her people, that she has been chosen, that there is a call out there.
After she has her breakdown before act 3 in the song "I am Moana" she literally sings "But the call isnt out there at all, it's inside me!" Which to is the moment when she stops trying to justify her wants extrinsically and admits that she wants this.... Because she wants it. And because intrinsic motivation is more powerful than extrinsic, that gives her the energy needed to push though the rest of the movie.
what a beautiful addition, thank you
Shit that’s true. I never realized all that. I always knew it was intrinsic but I didn’t think about how Moana probably felt bad or guilty for that, so she denied it and used the stone as an extrinsic reason to justify her sailing from the island.
But at the end she realized no, _she wants this._ And even more, it’s going to _help people_ to follow through. Really puts an already powerful scene in a new light, damn.
She realizes her want isn’t selfish or detrimental, which lessens her guilt because now she sees how this isn’t abandoning her culture and tradition, it’s saving it
I wish, in real life, we only needed 1 song after 1 breakdown to suddenly have clarity and know exactly what we want...
@@Metzli same
I may not be able to afford therapy but I can watch these videos because they're free.
Yup. Really entertaining and makes you more open-minded.
Having insurances can be helpful
Same!
There's resources out there for people that are struggling financially . Like florish therapy helps therapy more affordable and accessible for lgbt people. That's how I've been able to keep my therapist for as long as I have without having to swich a bunch of times again like I had to do before because of insurance. I'm sure there's other programs out there too just gotta look.
Grandparents are often the most likeable characters.
In movies and in life
I love to picture how much of a delightfully embarrassing mom she must have been to Chief Tui when he was a kid!
Especially in Disney movies....and yes, I'm talking about Queen Clarisse, cause, well, she's played by Julie Andrews!
I think because they have that bit of distance in perspective if not in love. Parents are often so caught up in expectation and worry that they can't see things objectively. A grandparent may have had time to reflect on their own choices as a parent and they do not typically have primary responsibility for the child.
I miss my gramma
I would die to get a video (or a series!) on Avatar: The Last Airbender. Some of the most fascinating psychology in the world is in that show, from the more obvious, but still unmatched (Zuko and Azula), to the more subtle (Aang, Katara, and Toph). It merits so much careful analysis, something that you guys and your crew specialize in! The best episode to break down would probably be S1E12, "The Storm", but there's also "The Day of Black Sun (Parts 1 & 2)", "The Southern Raiders", "The Puppetmaster", and "Sozin's Comet (Parts 1-4)", all in season 3. Or even "Jet" in season 1, or "A City of Walls and Secrets" or "Lake Laogai" in season 2. There's so much gold in ATLA.
You're our new favorite.
The last 2 episodes are good too for anng
@@thesadumbreon I put all four of the Sozin's Comet episodes on the list
ATLA is simplistic on the surface but narratively soooo deep. You can keep digging and digging and still find new things to analyze. One of the reasons it just shouldn’t be a movie, cause it would trivialize so much. I can think of maybe 2 filler episodes throughout the entire series you could skip. The rest are crucial.
Don’t forget Zuko Alone!!!!!!
Most of my family: *studying medicine*
Me: *wants to do something with drawing and animation*
Love that
Go for it!
Go for it but have a plan B.
Everyone in my family is taking engineering and computer science and I'm literally majoring in Animation and Illustration xD
If you're really sure about it, go right ahead!
If it's really your passion, follow it!
I have a very simple rule "Tradition is meant to serve man not rule over him" that is, as long as tradition adds to your life it is a good thing, the moment it detracts from your life it's a bad thing, and need to be modified to once again be a good thing or abandoned altogether. Oh and obviously you should let each person decide what tradition means to them.
I like your rule.
My favorite thing about Moana is that the conflict is so complex. It isn't "Do what I want versus do what's best for my family", it's "do one thing I want or do a mutually exclusive thing that I want". The resolution isn't about choosing, it's about reconciling. She WANTS to be a leader, she just also wants to be a sailor.
maybe there should be more
shows/movies like that or more there is/are?
When Jonathan sings "Tradition" from Fiddler on the Roof off the cuff in the correct key.... awesome.
Thank you!
What I really like about this movie is the fact that when she was about to give up in the middle of her journey, her grandmother went and told her that it's okay to be tired. It was not the toxic optimism where you just need to "keep going" and "you can do it!" that most disney characters usually get. It felt so real how her grandmother acknowledges the fact that she really tried and it's her choice if she wants to go back or to continue her journey because her grandmother will always be there for her.
Thank you for the great content again! Lots of love.
What I was hoping to see you guys talk about is the "How Far I'll Go (Reprise)" where Moana feels defeated, and Grandma Tala shows up and tells her that she understands that Moana is tired and she feels defeated and that if it was heer desire to go back she can, as long as she knows who she is and what she wants. She doesn't push her to keep going or to shrug off the negativity and press on. She encourages her to be herself and I think that's great
god that scene makes me cry everytime when grandmas stingray comes.
Clearly we need a follow up video.
"It's your calling, man"
"It's our calling, bro"
Oddly, that had a slighty ominous sound to it.
And Ana Katia totally cut it and ruined the moment 💔
What I love about Moana is that she's encouraged to become the next chief of her people. Her parents aren't like, "You're not a boy, you can't lead," they're telling her that it's her duty to become the next leader. It's such an empowering and progressive movie.
And no one bats an eye! Her father never makes any suggestion of wishing for a son, the mom isn't overprotective not wanting her daughter in leadership, the villagers have no issue with being led by a woman. Not that movies where the woman has to fight for her place is bad, but it's nice to see a movie where it's not even questioned, her being female has no bearing on it.
@@desolatefox Exactly! That's exactly right!
@@rueinred3153, I just read up on it: Apparently Hawaiian culture used to be matriarchal / matrilinear, so this is just the way it was. It's possibly more surprising that the father is the current chief.
@@g.strobl4458 cool!
@g.strobl4458 Moana isn't just Hawaii..Samoans still practice Chief structures to thus day
“It’s your calling, man”
“It’s our calling, bro”
I want a friendship like theirs
The thing I really appreciate about what grandmother tells Moana is she isn’t like “just do whatever you want, ignore your father.” She’s telling her to listen but ultimately be true to herself. Moana’s people matter but they’ll be better served by Moana being who she is. It’s a healthy dynamic. Plus there’s someone on the island that sees Mona for who she is, which is also really nice.
That quick shot of Grandma dancing by the water while Moana marches towards becoming chief always makes me cry, and I can't even express why.
Perhaps because her grandmother is the only person who isn't imposing an overwhelming pressure on her to be something or do things the 'right way'. She is relaxed, positive, encouraging, and also marches to the beat of her own drum. She doesn't have any expectations for Moana beyond what Moana wants for herself. This is exemplified by her telling Moana later during the 'How far I'll go' reprise that it is ok for her to give up if that's what she wants. I think the scene you are talking of represents her at her best and describes her character completely simply through visuals alone. Everyone else with expectations for Moana and a plan for her future is lined up watching her, while her grandmother has no expectations and is thus off doing her own wacky grandma thing. She trusts that Moana will find her own way and doesn't need her to watch over her and guide her. And in being that way, she is providing the best guidance of anyone.
I like how the pig and chicken represent tradition and ambition respectively. The pig, like tradition, has been with her all along and signifies her anchor to home, as it’s when she’s with the pig that she fails at escaping the reef. When she finally reaches the outer ocean and starts her journey, she ends up with the chicken that appears on the ship out of nowhere, similar to how ambition can just arise out of nowhere and lead us somewhere
"This thing we call 'failure' isn't the falling down, it's the staying down."
Have you played "getting over it"?
This exact quote is in it.
Thank you by the way for it... It's a great reminder
That said, there's a difference between giving up and accepting that the only path to success involves taking a nap.
_"Doing something different is hard and uncomfortable."_
This sort of ties into the other conflict she has with her father. Like Moana, he also tried to deviate from tradition and go out into the ocean, but his experience went badly and he suffered for it, and that directly flavors how he approaches Moana's own desire to go out and explore. He's trying to paint certain things as tradition and contentment when they're actually his fear of how her doing something different could go wrong.
And on that note, only because I just watched it, The Croods has a similar message about the necessity for change and flexibility, and maybe you guys could do a video about that movie some time. :)
Moana came out when I was in my first year of college and it was my first time living away from my family. No one had ever went to college or moved away in my family so I was not feeling great, to put it lightly. I sobbed throughout the entire movie. I rewatched it 20 times and each time I just cried and cried and cried. This movie was a very nice punch to the gut.
I was really hoping they would put in the scene where Moana realize who Te Ka was actually Te Fiti and returned her heart to her. I would have loved to hear them talk about that scene and how powerful it was. It's my favorite scene from the movie.
Ohh yeah! I really love the movie for that!
Probably because the supposed villain is not actually like a "villain with malicious intention", but more to "someone hurt who went the wrong way".
@@nuraleshaafreen6835 I think it's kind of why I like Moana so much. So many of the antagonists in life aren't those of malicious intent (though they do exist), but people who've been hurt and gone down a bad road, but so often media goes the easy route and shows the maliciously intended antagonists. I think it's far easier for story writers to right a intentionally malicious antagonist than someone who's hurt and lashing out because of that and easier for audiences to root against a clear villain than a wronged soul taking their hurt out on others.
Show not tell
My favorite is when Moana is talking to her grandmother's spirit and she realizes what her purpose really is-- to learn who and what she is, and how it relates to her family. It's like a light bulb goes on. That's a really powerful moment.
I was a teen mother and for over 13 years I believed that graduating High School with a 2.5 GPA and a 2 year old was the best I could do. That 2 year old is 19 now, and I am 2 months away from my Bachelor's in Accounting with a 3.7 GPA. Life throws so much, but Moana is true inspiration. 🥰
"I went to Julliard." lmao Thank you for playing that clip.
I think that part of the parent pushing children into a certain life style is that they know that life style, and maybe have connections so they have (or think they have) the ability to help, to pave the way. And the feeling of belonging.
Circus preformers, attorney... guess everyone has their own hoops to jump through.
Yeh I forgot a comma when I first posted. It did make it a bit confusing without it.
The "cultural indoctrination" is something that runs in my family as well, though my parents never deliberately pushed it on me (in most aspects), I didn't realize that until high school was almost over. For example, My grandfather and dad are engineers, and my mother teaches math. This year, my brother and I will both graduate in engineering. Ironically, because of my infatuation with language and writing, my dad actually asked me, when I told him I was going into engineering, "are you sure you don't want to be a writer?" I just thought it was interesting how that "cultural indoctrination" was perceived by both my brother and me, but my parents never did anything deliberate to enforce it.
It is the most normal thing to do, you are raising a child, you are teaching the child your costumes at anything that you do. There is no other way
@@panqueques4538 what?
Without understanding your cultural background, I don't see that as necessarily doctrination. Both hubby and I are history nuts, albeit in different aspects. We both serve(d) in the military. Our kids are young, but I'd be a bit surprised if they DON'T at least understand that history is an ongoing conversation, whether or not they choose to take part in it actively, they don't at least consider the military as an option, etc. That's what they know and grow up around.
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oh my lord i'm sorry, i'm still only a few minutes into the video, and that clip of Alan Tudyk sort of bemusedly, almost dejectedly saying 'i went to Juliard' after literally clucking into a microphone...i had to pause the video I was ugly laughing help I cannot breathe
coincidentally I'm watching this video right as I'm drawing, it took so long to realize it but art really is to me what the ocean is to Moana, so many of the things you've said here really speak to me, I remember how many fights I've had with my parents over my passion for not being "a real job" or "something you can be successful at". it hasn't been easy but I'm still here and still going, your video is really a big motivation and it honestly makes me feel validated, like maybe it really wasn't the wrong choice to go down this path, thank you
You're so welcome, Fae! We wish you great success with your art. Did you do your avatar? We'd love to see your work.
@@CinemaTherapyShow Thank you so much! It's not easy, but I'm trying my hardest!
and yes I did! It's a few months old by now and not the best, but it's one of the art pieces I made that makes me the happiest :) I'm still learning, but I'm trying to put my best of the best on artstation! www.artstation.com/undeadfae
@@faeb.9618 Hey friend, being the best isn't the goal, it's having a good time and always progressing. I pity the best, for they have no room to compete and grow! Best of luck with your art, friend!
Edit: Just checked out your art and wow! It's so good! Certainly don't sell yourself short, you're standing very tall
@@caldeauwolf5534 aaaa thank you so much, I'm so glad to hear that! :D It's been hard after a lot of self doubt and such, but I'm learning to start to appreciate what I can do more for what it is and what it gives me than what I think it should be, it's hard but working to get there!
Keep doing what you love 💜
“My wife likes to say that we have our passions for a reason. Like, the thing that you really care about that you keep coming back to. It's your way of doing good in the world and making a difference.” Your wife is a very wise person indeed.
"Don't go into film"
*laugh-cries in cinematography student*
"It is impossible to suceed without failure"..gosh I NEED TO ACCEPT THIS!
I see my ocean, but I don't know how to sail just yet. People tell me alot of things about how difficult or hopeless it is but I just have this pull in my chest that drags me to it. Everyone's supportive about it, but it's clear that one thinks it'll work. I've had alot of doubts about it myself, especially money wise, but I realised that I never needed that much money. This movie, and this video reminding me about it, helped me realise how fundamental my ocean is to who I am and how far I'm willing to go with it.
I don't quite know what I want, but I know how I want to go about it.
I don't know what my point was exactly. I think I just wanted to get it out. To anyone who read this, thanks for reading about my issues. I think I'll just do the older teen/ young adult thing and backpack across the world so I can figure myself out
"I Wish I could be the Perfect Daughter but I come back to the Water. Never really knowing why.
It Calls Me!" That's pretty much Me.
the scene with the old men and them throwing the leis onto moana until it covers her face while a cute joke, actually could be a nice nod towards graduation tradition in Hawai'i (& possibly other polynesian cultures). When students graduate in Hawai'i, family and friends bring lei (usually made out of flowers, thread, or money) or floaties (to put around their waist) as gifts for the graduate. a lot of times the leis pile so high that they end up covering a big part of their face lol
You guys deserve MILLIONS of subscribers! I have been bingeing your videos and they are so insightful. Keep it up!
Wow! Thank you so much! Comments like this keep us going, you have no idea. Truth is, we very much want to be one of the big, "millions of subs" channels, so anything you can do to spread the word would be much appreciated :)
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I always just really felt it when she says "What is wrong with me?"
Maybe my own circumstances aren't all that similar to hers, but as an autistic person I've spent most of my life being told I wasn't supposed to be the way I was and there have been times when I fell into a deep self-loathing as I tried to figure out what was broken about me that made me not be able to fit into society's expectations. But now I know there's nothing broken about me. It's society that's broken because it tells everyone they have to be a certain way instead of respecting people for what they are.
I feel this as a dyslexic as well.
@@owenbevt3 I've never been formally diagnosed with dyslexia but for a long time now I've suspected I have it. This is making things hard for me now because I recently started a job where an important part of what I'm doing is writing down long strings of numbers.
I related a lot to this video in that my family is very religious and I am not (I'm the only atheist in my family). I definitely feel their push to try and make me religious again even though I feel happier as an atheist. Some examples of this push include, making me pray with them, refusing to let me tell my younger siblings that I don't believe in god, and telling me am just going through a phase/will be happier with christ in my life. I love my family more than anyone else on the planet by it can be a bit frustrating/isolating when they refuse to let me go down my own path in terms of my beliefs. Thank you for this wonderful analysis.
You're very welcome. Maybe you can show them this and our "Serenity and the Power of Belief" video and tell them these are from two dude who believe in Jesus who also think that your family should let you do your own thing and just love you.
Oh hon. My heart goes out to you. As a Christian, I feel for your family. However, what they need to realize is that if Christ is going to be a part of your life, you have to choose Him for yourself. Their pushing you and trying to make you is just going to turn you off. They need to just love you and accept you as you are. After all, God does.
The scene with the grandmother when moana tosses the gem always gets me. For me, it’s a reminder that even when we think the least of ourselves, we have that family and the spirit of them that lives on in us that if we listen are there to encourage us by reminding us of who we really are, instead of the lie we believe in.
"it's your calling, man" "its *our* calling, *bro* " Hahaha that moment was funny to me11:32 just perfect
I just watched Moana one month ago and I'm so angry at myself for not believing the reviews. I'm absolutely in love with this movie and feel a very strong emotional link towards it
I'm so glad I'm not the only one obsessing over this movie I cry my eyes out every time I see it. I'm a descendant of Italian inmigrants and I have such respect for their courage of getting on a ship for weeks to go find a new life I get so emotional.
Man this is all too relatable... really insightful discussion. If you guys ever consider discussing Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind i'd tune in in a heartbeat.
We will DEFINITELY do Eternal Sunshine at some point. Probably multiple episodes. SO MUCH RELATIONSHIP in that one.
As someone who, like many others, has been through traumatic experiences the resonating moment for me with Moana was seeing the portrayal of Te Fiti/Te Ka and how trauma affects someone in the thereafter.. how it can feel like individuals have had something taken away from them and been stripped of a key component of their personalities. Being rotted from the core and becoming someone we do not even recognize..
To see that Te Ka wasn't just wrath and fire but someone who is wounded and hurt.. someone who is only trying to protect and hold onto what little is left of who they once were that outwardly they become this shell of their former self just to do it.. Literally, one of the hardest things to see portrayed because it is so real for me.. We see these so called 'monsters' all the time when in reality the actual monsters who caused the harm go unchecked.
It would be awesome to see an analysis on Brave, more specifically Merida and the pressure to marry someone or the pressure of responsibility.
I think she is a very underrated princess and most even forget she exists in the Disney world franchise. She has such a unique story compared to all of them. And no matter what anyone else may say, she was the first princess to not want a man to solve her problems or have her movie end in marriage. (Even Frozen ended up having a romantic side plot) She is also the only one not to sing any songs in her own movie.
Merida has to marry and accept her responsibility as a princess. she should want a man and her movie should end in marriage.
Brave pretty much ignored Merida's conflict once after it introduced the witch and the mother was turned into a bear
Merida was mostly forgotten because her internal conflict was pretty much left unsolved unlike Moana. There is nothing inspiring about her. And the fact she has no songs in her movie makes her even more forgetful.
In every disney movie, the songs is the reflection of the characters
The fact that this movie is so good that I’m upset they were talking through the song 😂🤦🏻♀️
As if that isn’t my main purpose of clicking
When I was little, I came to the belief at a VERY young age that I needed to be just like the rest of my family in order to be happy and have a future worth living. Many of my family members were very successful people who are extremely happy and content with their lives and shared many of the same things. However, when I attempted to be like my family and aim for what was perceived as the “norm”. I dropped my actual interests that gave me a passion in life and started trying all these things that my family thought were right for me and that my friends were doing, but only become miserable and ended up hating myself. For the longest time, I thought that there was something wrong with me. I used to cry over my failures and made myself completely disheartened with myself simply because I couldn’t live up to these ideas I and my family had for me. There were so many times when I just wanted to give up because I believed that I was not worth it.
Finally, by the time I was in middle school, I rediscovered my old passions and remembered how happy they made me. Desperate for ANYTHING that could ignite some form of happiness in me, I started getting back into my old passions that I had abandoned to try and be like my family and discovered that they were the things that truly made me happy. While I was very much out of practice and needed to relearn quite a few things, I quickly found that I had a true natural talent for them and that they were what gave me a purpose in life. After rediscovering my passions and talent for them, I needed to somehow face my family and inform them of who I truly was and that the life I had been living before was not meant for me. I was pretty scared to do this as I always had a pretty hard time speaking up to my family. But, eventually, I managed to show them who I truly am and was even able to put my foot down against the things they forced upon me that I despised with every fiber of my being.
I still have yet to reach my full potential, but I am so much happier with who I am and don’t feel the need to hide myself. I even was brave enough to confide in my parents about my asexuality when I finally learned about it, and they were so accepting of it. If the day comes that I ever have children of my own (planning to adopt), I want them to know that they should always be true to themselves and should never be afraid to follow their hearts. Having spent so much of my life wasting away pursuing a life I never truly wanted and neglecting who I truly was really showed me how important it is to be myself and not force myself to change simply because it’s different from those around me. In the end, so long as I can be myself and show my family what I am truly capable of, even if they don’t fully understand it, that is a happiness far greater than following some pre-determined path set for you by others. If it’s not in your heart, then it is not the path truly meant for you.
Glad you found your way to happiness!
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This is pretty relatable... honestly (and oddly coincidentally XD), it was only today that I realized: I don't have to be what my parents want.
Growing up, I've always had a decent talent and ear for music (no, I'm not trying to brag, but it feels nice to acknowledge one of y main strengths). At first, I took a liking to it.. then, one day, I decided that perhaps I found it boring-I just didn't have a passion for it anymore. The years passed, and I kept disappointing my parents (and most of all, my private teacher) by not practicing the one main strength I've had for a good chunk of my life. My parents would always tell me how I'm wasting my talent and how I'm wasting their money-which, in all fairness, I was.
Fast forward to today. Today is the final day for me to hand in an All-State audition (it's online because of corona), and no, I am not prepared at all. I didn't practice when I had the time to, so it will ultimately be my fault when I absolutely flunk the ending of the piece, as well as all of the parts I have just not worked on. Of course, that guilt started to really tear me apart until I realized something: after everything is done and over, I'll be free. I mean yeah, sure, I've always been free after a competition or test of some sort, but... I realized (since this is my last chance to try out for All State) that I'd be free. I realized that, more than ever, I wanted to play my violin after it was all over and-due to my grade/age-I wouldn't need to try out for anything because there isn't anything left to try out for. All there is is the terrifying vast expanse of time that I have to improve upon my abilities at my own pace, setting my own rules. And that... that was a guilty liberation.
I'm saying this because for the first time, I really, truly accepted that all these years, I've kept at music because my parents expected me to. I was afraid that I would disappoint them, my teacher, and myself, and I'd waste all the talent and money that had been given to and spent on me. And so, I never took the time to really enjoy it at my own pace: I was always preparing for another concert, always playing and preparing for more competition, but yet I never actually improved just for the sake of improving and enjoying it. I always put aside the pieces/songs I really wanted to play and opted to force myself to try and enjoy it, because that's what I've always been good at. And yet... when I realized that after this, I wouldn't have anyone else to play for (aside from school concerts and musicals, of course), that I would be free to do what I wanted, I realized that that was what I needed all along: I needed time to-instead of playing because others expected me to or because of my insecurities about disappointing everyone-play because I truly want to keep improving. Despite how much I practice and despite my severe stage fright, I love performing, it's always been mostly because of someone else's expectations; I never got better for the sake of playing.
Sorry this is a bit of a rant, but I'm so glad to know that people can relate to me, and that I can relate to them. I still will always feel guilty about letting everyone down (especially my private teacher, who is the best teacher and friend that I could ever ask for), for wasting my talent, and for wasting everyone's time. I need to apologize to everyone who I've ever affected in that way, and I fully intend on doing just that. But since I've accepted that no, it isn't my life's passion and it doesn't need to be, now I'm free to play whatever I want, at the pace that I want-that is true enjoyment, not living up to other's wants and expectations.
Thank you to everyone who took the time to read this oversized reply XD, and rip I realized that I still need to turn in that audition (I know that there's like a billionth of a chance that I'll make it into All State, but I hope the judge doesn't make fun of me or anything for what he/she is going to hear XD). Please, follow your heart. If you don't know what that is, then first realize the things that make you choose what you want now; if there are any pressures that are making you do what you're doing now, then stop. Take time to think, and calm yourself down. Only after you've eliminated the want to satisfy others' desires will you find what you truly want. Thanks again, and good luck to all of you!
@@yourneighborhoodfbi7518 Yeah, that does sound kinda similar to me. I'm sorry that it took you so long to realize why you were so unhappy and disinterested in something you do love. But I am glad that finally figured things out. Better late than never, ya know? I wish you the best of luck in talking to your family and teacher about your situation. I know how scary and hard it can be, but you're regret not saying anything if you don't just go for it.
I'm not perfect, and I've had to go through a lot, but I'm at least happier now that I've chosen to live my own life and am working hard to achieve my dreams. Even if I don't achieve much in life, I'm living my life with passion and proving my own worth on my own. I do still worry about disappointing others around me. But I've found that it is better to disappoint others than yourself. Your life and value is what you make it.
In middle school, after my choir class finished a big concert, we decided to take a break from lessons and celebrate by watching a musical movie called Fame (we sang the main song from the movie in our concert). There was a scene in the movie where a girl who was classically trained discovered she loved preforming music that wasn't classical and was scared when her parents found out. While the father was outraged and threatened to pull her out of her arts school, her mother saw that she didn't love her classical training but loved the friends she made and preformed with and the school she attended. In the end, the girl was finally able to find her true voice and held true passion for what she was doing. Maybe, when you have your talk with your family about your situation, you could show them this movie? It might help explain yourself to them.
Here's one of the song from the movie. I hope it inspires you: th-cam.com/video/WFJhtN8eGq8/w-d-xo.html
@@yourneighborhoodfbi7518, the best remedy for stage-fright: Trust in the music. You are only the interpreter, the music is good already, you just have to open up to it and let it flow through you. Yeah, sure, you can mess that part up, but you can only mess up THAT part, not the music itself. Let it carry you, and it will. When you are practising, you are aligning yourself for that moment, so that it can flow. In that process, mistakes can be a big deal, but when you are on stage, you just let it flow. And when the music flows, it will wash them away, if you let it. Hope that helps.
I watched this movie in my English class to talk about the hero’s journey!!! I love Moana. 💕
I’ve always been interested in how Moana finding her own way led to reviving the lost traditions of her people. Glad to see you speak about this movie. I don’t know why but when it was first released, I felt very annoyed by Moana. I’m not sure what it was but now a little bit older I appreciate her so much more, especially now that I’ve felt what she did in the movie.
Moana is the bee's knees. So glad you came around ;)
Wonder if it is because it is a bit meandering without the traitorous antagonist, etc.
Honestly watching this makes me connect with Moana in a whole new way. So my parents are religious and they don't really say it or shove it in my face but I know they want me to be this "perfect" little religious child. But that's not what I want. This particular religion believes that a part of me and who I am is a sin, when in actuality this part of me shouldn't matter to them at all. Because of this now when I go to any activity related to this religion I hate it, I clam up, I fight to not shutdown, I'm not myself anymore, I feel trapped and that if I make a wrong move or say something wrong I'll be judged negatively for it. These feelings have gotten worse over time and now I can barely step foot in a church building hardly at all, and the only reason I do is because I'm expected to. But once I move out and I'm away from my parents and can leave, I'm going to come out and tell them this is what I am and I'm not going to church anymore and here's why, I still want a relationship with you but if you can't respect this or can't leave it alone then I can't have this relationship anymore because I need to feel free to live my life the way I want to and do what makes me happy
It will get easier with time. I’m in the same boat as you.
@@kayhaven4710 yea I know. Everything heals with time, some wounds take longer than others, some may never completely heal and leave a scar, but scars to can heal and reveal who you are. I'll come clean about everything when I'm ready, that's just going to have to wait awhile, and when it dose come the real healing can begin
I really relate to your story. I’m the only atheist and lgbtq person in my family (haven’t told them yet) and it’s really difficult fitting in.
As a Christian who strongly disagrees with the way most Christians treat lgbtq people, I don't really know what to say to this. I can confidently say that everyone is supposed to be and feel welcome, no matter who or what they are, and there are some Christians who will welcome you and accept you without judging you, but I have no idea how you would find them except by opening yourself up to everyone you know, which will probably result in a lot of them doing stupid and hurtful things to you.
The way I see it, if your parents can’t accept you for who you are then they don’t deserve the blessing of having you in their lives
Because you are worth more than the opinions of a bunch of dead guys
I would love to heard you thoughs on Maui, on his arc, to a hypermasculine guy, to someone willing to left the protagonism, teach a young woman, and sacrifice the one thing that he thinks is who he is.
I've always thought that his hook is the idea of "traditional masculinity" and his journey is about learning other ways to be a man.
Therapy+movies is a good mix, because sometimes movies can be therapy for humans. When someone acts out or represents a moment or feeling through a film it can allow someone to have empathy for this characters and in turn be therapy for themselves. Movies inspire us, they make us cry, challenge our mindset/behavior, and/or make our day better
"What is happy for them, for her is mediocre" i love that yesss
I just noticed that every time she's on the edge or debating with herself she's standing on a lava flow
Good one, I can relate. The lava took our house out in Hawaii and it did drive us away even though we loved living there.
When they were talking about how moana smiles when she looks at the ocean. I’m only just starting off but it’s exactly how I felt about art and animation as a career, it made me happy and excited whenever I thought about it. Although I could have gone into medicine or veterinary science (and I was interested in those) it didn’t hold the same passion that I had for animation and that was ultimately my deciding factor. And although it certainly isn’t easy and can be gruelling at times I push through it because I genuinely love it and want to continually improve and convey stories.
That is exactly how I feel about writing! Even if I sometimes hate it because things go awry, or I don't like editing, it's still my passion. Can I become an engineer? Sure. And I'm going to as well, because I have a family to feed, but I can do both. Maybe as a transition, or maybe that will be my Life with a capital 'L', but I can't just *stop* writing, as I am sure you can't stop animating if you lost both arms and legs.
Coming to the film when recovering from multiple traumas in quick succession, the Te-Ka/Te-Fiti arc and the Know Who You Are song at the end really hit me like a train
I just found this channel and am currently on a binge. Maybe I’m the one that needs therapy 😂
I've been binging your videos tonight and I definitely want to see you guys talk about Onward.
Regarding why we don't all live in polynesia: the reasons I did not like living in Hawaii were mosquitoes, flies, cockroaches, lightning not usually produce audible thunder, and not much seasonal change.
I lived in Hawaii for 7 years and we loved living there. But, hurricanes are becoming more threatening and the volcano took our house out. Living in Hawaii is not for the faint of heart. I love Moana and cried through a lot of the movie because Hawaii still hold my heart
It's really hard to find that balance between 'you will be this way' and 'you do you.' My parents tried their best, with Mom maybe leaning a little hard on the tradition side (mostly in what clothing's appropriate and 'decorum') and Dad leaning a little hard the other way. Oof. I mean, he let me amass this *huge* collection of toilet paper tubes, didn't even comment on how weird it was. They were both pretty open about letting me pursue my own interests, though were kinda lacking in the actual 'encouragement' department. One week, I'd want to be a secret agent. "Okay, you do that." Next, I'd want to be a reporter. "Okay, you do that." Or a paleontologist. "Okay, you do that." So I ended up bopping around a lot of interests and never really settled on much. Mental health issues on all sides didn't help any.
On the 'what's wrong with me' line, I spent the first couple decades of my life *desperately* trying to convince the adults around me that there was something wrong. I didn't fit in with the other kids, I didn't *understand* the other kids. All the aptitude tests said I was brilliant, but my actual grades were horrible. Nothing about me fit. But the school councilors insisted that I wasn't different from everyone else despite the fact that I was *seeing a school councilor* and my parents were just 'yeah, you're different, so?' Took until I was 25 to find out I have Asperger's. Just having a name for what's wrong was *freeing.* Especially knowing that I'm not just some freak or that there's something wrong with *me* as a person, but that it's a problem with the wiring.
I am so happy you finally got something to help you! My parents were a little bit too indifferent too, "supportive", but not really. And I also have ASD. It took till I was 22 to finally settle on what my calling was, and even now I'm constantly bopping around to different interests. One day it's soapmaking, then there's hunting, another day it's leatherworking. I struggle a lot to finish projects, but I'm getting better. I guess I just really need help to seriously try the things, before I le them go. I mean, I know I'm not going to be a professional soap-maker. And I know hunting isn't going to be a profession either. I tried baking, but I couldn't keep up with my dough. It's still nice to get proper support towards the things I like and want to explore, instead of just "Uhh. Sure," or "Why do you always want to do things an hour before *bedtime*?" Turns out I'm geared for being a night owl, and my insecure upbringing gave me severe anxious insomnia. Uhh... Which reminds me, that I really need to go to bed.
@@PanthereaLeonis I feel this so much. Not the insecure part, so much, though there was some (that had very little to do with my parents directly). And I don't think they were indifferent so much as, well, Mom's very much the stoic type, complicated by clinical depression, and Dad was over-compensating for his own parents pushing him (with the best of intentions) in certain directions.
It shouldn’t be a problem
It really sucks that it’s considered a problem
Aspergers makes you unique and the fact that being so unique makes it difficult to function in real life is a huge problem with how society functions
@@normalhuman9878 Shouldn't be but *is,* which says *nothing* about how society functions. Asperger's is a *developmental disability* regarding the person's capacity for recognizing and communicating emotion and non-verbal information. We tend to take things literally. We see someone squint and don't know if we said something wrong, there's something in their eye, or they have to pee. And that's when we notice anything *at all.* Navigating even the simplest conversation is *work* for us and we're likely to slip up simply because human interaction doesn't come natural.
Again, it's not a problem with society. Having *any* sort of disability is going to make functioning in real life difficult. That's why they're *disabilities.*
I love when she return, everyone comes to welcome her and she is happiest to see Pua the pig
When I saw Moana for the first time I felt...understood. For the first time. I'm the only 'weird' one in my family, 30, single and childless next to my grandma with now 8 grand children. Living the normal life with 40h job, family house and children sounds like a brainless hell to me and my dad wants me doing exactly that. I know I have a call, just not for what. Not knowing makes it even harder but I'm not feeling like a walking failure anymore. I just try to live my life as best as I can and hope to find my true calling somewhere on the way.
When I watched this movie with my dad I was so nervous, I hoped he would understand, tying the dots so to say but I don't think he got it. Well, it was a try. But I still love this movie
I lost it when you said your cousins were circus performers, Jono! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Loved the movie therapy session!
We had to cut a massive, embarrassing snort from Alan on that one. Stay tuned for an outtakes reel at some point. It’s... a lot.
Thanks Heather ;)
@@JonathanDecker big fan from India sir
This channel has done way more for me than the few weeks of therapy I went to. It also made me realize that there’s a lot in my life I probably should have been or should be getting therapy for.
Please NEVER STOP saying Linky Linky... it is adorable. And filled me with joy and delight.
someone once said: "if you are happy doing something and you love it, then no one can tell you you're not successful." and I think it's the only constant thing we can tell about success
I died laughing at “my cousins were circus performers.” 🤣😂
This channel is great, always glad to see a new upload from you guys.
Thank you so much! We're glad you enjoy watching.
Thanks for supportive.
I love that jonathon is a little Moana. Just like she had to learn her own path so that she was a chief of the sea instead of a chief of the land... Jonathon went to school to learn to argue like his family, but he learned to argue to resolve instead of arguing to win.
I love Moana. I grew up in the South Pacific so there are a lot of aspects about it that remind me of home. Beyond that it has my favorite trope (flawed mentor who is made better by helping the younger generation). My absolute favorite thing is that, in the end, Moana doesn't "defeat" anyone, she saves her village by giving Maui a second chance, and then by doing the same for Te-ka all for the love of her people. Brilliant story telling.
As a trans person "How far it goes" is a song I relate to, a lot. I relate to that song because, well, just think about the lyrics for two seconds and you'll know why.
Mulan's "My Reflection" was that song for me.
Still don't know but yeah whatever
@@mellophriend Think about the lyrics "I wish I could be the perfect daughter, but I come back to the water. No matter how hard I try." for example.
Same! 🌻
@@xd_liz6391 I'm panromantic grey Asexual and Nonbinary born Afab, that song and let it go both feel like it describes my life n I grew up in a cult, so that adds to how much of an impact the songs have.
Wow! I love how high-quality your videos are! I'd love to see what you think of Song of the Sea or Koe no Katachi (A Silent Voice).
Great suggestions! We'll look into both!
@@CinemaTherapyShow the silent voice is an amazing movie and it focuses on things like bullying and regret and forgiveness and other things related to those! I haven't watched the other movie, but please check them out!!!
A Silent Voice is a devastating modern classic!
I love that part where you said that we have a passion for a reason. I write it down. It really inspired me.
Johno can say linky-linky anytime. I chuckled at that. Ana, thanks for sharing why you loved Moana, yes - the hair - amazing! One of the moment I really give a solid to in this film is her conversation with her Grandma's spirit. Her Gran was so supportive, and even though there were a lot of stakes, the entire village was depending on Moana to restore balance, and she was so inexperienced even at something they were all inexperienced at, sailing, her Gran let her know that it needed to be her decision to move forward, and not feel forced. That's really healthy. And I'm glad it was in a kid's film in a way that they can understand Moana's determination, that she owned it, and did not do things simply because she was feeling forced. That agency was beautiful.
Oh and about the delicious little [cocktail] that the merging of cinema and therapy is - I think that's because cinema is therapy for many of us. it's definitely a primary therapy for me.
It’s a weird expectation of perfection that has this ungodly pressure. The expectation that, if you choose to go off on a different path than what I’ve planned for you, you better find success immediately or else.
The best metaphor I can think of of how the west ruin tractional places like Polynesia. There were no mosquitoes on Hawaii before western ships arrived with standing water in the hauls that contained mosquitoes and mosquitoes eggs. The bugs flew off the ship and brought mosquitoes and then those mosquitoes carried illness and death with them.
Don't forget the rats and mongoose and what they did to the nenes.
I love the healthy parenting in this parents. They got it wrong and they accept it and they support her then. Is beautiful
For me, what gets me in this movie is the scene of Song of the Ancestors. Man, that hits me hard when grandma says "You've come so far, my girl, and it's okay if you go back, cuz I know is too big a weight to carry. And no matter what you choose, I'll be with you". Oh my, I'm already crying.
I see myself a lot as a mix between Moana and her dad. I long for the adventure, it calls to me. I've managed to take it a couple times, like Moana does. A lot of the time, though, I get held back by my fear, like her father. He longs for the adventure, and to explore when he was younger, but he crashed and that horrible experience convinced him that he could never succeed at that, so just stay on the island, being the leader he was raised to be. Stay with what's safe, because the alternative is risky and scary.
I think I tend to let the fear of the unknown hold me back, even though it calls me, and I want to go for it.
That, or I'm just to broke to broke to go for it lol.
Look, there's nothing wrong with the people who stay on the island. It's a good life. It's just not great to stay there if fear is what's keeping you there, not love for that life.
@@CinemaTherapyShow Oh yes, exactly. I didn't mean to imply it was bad to stay on the island.
Would love to see your guys' take on the reprise of How Far I'll Go, where her grandma ends up telling her that it is okay that she wasn't successful. It's so different from what most adults tell young Chosen Ones. Most of the time, you get the "try again, you can do it" and a whole bunch of other don't give up things, but Moana's grandmother tells her that not only is it okay that she failed, but that she, grandma, expected too much of Moana.
Thank you! That’s exactly the advice I needed! Follow your calling knowing you might fail but you can smile because it’s what you love
The grandmother reminds me so much of my own great grandmother, who passed several months before this movie came out, a little off but still a guiding light. My favorite part is her saying, forge your own path, but still mind what your father is teaching you. And at the end, she doesn’t force her into continuing her mission. She gives her permission to go home if that’s what she wants.
“The call of being a film maker. Which is a terrible idea. Don’t do that”. Me: who’s studying to become an animator. 🥺😢
Do what makes you happy and you'll find your way ❤ trust that you'll have everything you need
can yall PLEASE do princess and the frog, the black version. that story and the themes are soooo good
"we have our passions for a reason, the thing that you really care about that you keep coming back to, it's your way of doing good in the world and making a difference" i love this so much
Jonathan has such an oratorical talent. Every word is honey, every message a blessing.
Best compliment ever!