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@@jaswanthkumar4450 Sure, but read the comments, some people just don't understand what any of this means even when it's explained as clearly as it gets, they only hear "Quadro retired" then look see they have a Quadro and panic that what they have is now going to stop working. It sounds ridiculous but a lot of people who are end users of these products just aren't savvy with how all this works.
I'm sure somebody at Nvidia had a "good" reason for this change, but axing a name as prolific as Quadro off your branding is monumentally stupid. Apparently, they decided it wasn't worth asking their target customer base for input prior to plowing ahead.
I was looking for the explanation of this Ampere all over the Internet and only this video could gave me the most important information in the simpliest easiest way without wasting my time behind a half hour long video. Thank you so much 😍. Creative Designers need to be informed about the lastest technolgy available for their uses but off course Tech Experts need to understand they are just artists, not Techno Geek. We don't need to know all the hour long science behind it. We just need the simpliest guidence on how the new Tech is gonna impact on my creative world. We are just users. 😍
Thanks for the clarification!! I am one of those end users who knows nothing about software and was thinking maybe buying an older model workstation would be better because it “still had Quadro”, not knowing that the newer versions basically also have it, it’s just named differently. Thanks!!
Here I am, a year after this video was uploaded because my confusion with Quadro/RTX branding was immeasurable. I’m a 20-year Nvidia loyalist who’s now just disappointed. They’re going the way of USB-IF with naming insanity that seems to almost be intentionally frustrating
@@ProjectPhysX Personally being using the T400 and T1000 for some testing for CAD/DataScience workloads and they are still the same, pretty slow gpus basically with a volta encoder and some tensor features.
nooo QUADRO... i need this word on my graphics card in my non transparent workstation case. haha jokes aside, i kind of do miss the sick chrome and quadro name for some reason
What a poor move - I could understand if there was a new groundbreaking feature that made old Quadros look bad like how Intel added i9 to the core series. Quadro is such a well-known brand and so visible I can easily tell someone what to easily look for in the name rather than just a letter. Saying a Quadro will not benefit Inventor anymore than a Geforce except for VRAM etc is far easier than saying the NVIDIA Card with an A before the big number will not benefit Inventor anymore than Geforce except for VRAM etc... Unlearning Quadro is not going to be fun.
Exactly! Like I say, what do you refer to these as!? Its easy enough to say hey, get an A4000 or an A3000 but when discussing GeForce vs Pro Cards, that's just become something I want to Ostrich the f**k out of and smash bury my head into the sand for the foreseeable!
I personally love A2000 6gb for itx pc. :) My pc is really small but the whole system gaming performance is like rtx 3050 and :) it is consuming less watt. :3 Quadro has potential.
For me, Im beginning my inventor 3d modeling journey so I'd personally like to have the Rtx 3090 kingpin with the additional kingpin water block to add into my loop on my Threadripper 3960x workstation. But thats just me.
When I saw the title I was hopping that certified drivers for CAD programs are gone and I safely can use an rtx 3070 for my next build. Well I guess I was wrong.
Yea all of that is still on Nvidia and no change there unfortunately, what this means though is you now have two different named sets of drivers, or 1 driver which has to be weirdly titled to make sure it covers both the old Quadro brand and whatever they're calling these. It's just daft.
If they just thought of using "Q" as a designator it would have made a lot more sense. And Q is much cooler looking and sounding than A. It's like Quantum, or Quadro, or that pesky Godlike creature from Star Trek, Q.... NVIDIA RTX Q6000 would have been much better... They really didn't think this through, did they?
Wow... I missed that news by a couple years. It was hard enough to understand their old model numbers for desktops and mobiles to realise the performance was not the same.
Thanks for the info! Also, please, make the intro and outro sound equal to the main video. They are so much loud, like 10 times more. And I like an old natural background than meaningless low-quality chromakey background.
I am 100% agreed to what you explained.... thats really confusing. QUADRO name is so punchy.. Like.. Yeah we have a professional grade graphic card.. NOW ITS LIKE SH.....I Don't understand why they came up with this shity decision.
Hi, there. What kind of graphic card would be better for architectural programs that require gpu? Between *nividia quadro p5200 16gb, hp zbook g5 *nividia geforce rtx 3050 4gb. on a asus vivobook x14 I dont know which one would be better, and after watching this video I'm not that sure.
@@phay8118 Hello, Noo I still havent found one. But nividia p5200 can render scenes more than rtx 3050, cuase it has more vram. If you want something fast go for an rtx 3070 not lower.
Frell me dead! Or whow! Thank you for making this video. I almost spent money on buying water-blocks for the NVIDIA Quadro 8000 and, thanks to you, I now know not to do that. I agree Steve Ritter, axing the name "Quadro" without any apparent rhyme or reason for it just doesn't seem to make any sense, especially for someone like me, who is building a high-end workstation computer for the very first time. I have a B.S. from a college and I majored in architecture, but at the particular time I went to college, they resisted CAD and actually spent the most time putting focus on the models we built. I chose to finally build one myself (because there is no place around town that deals in anything high-end). Now, I've got to go and watch the video on these new cards. ;-{ Thanks for catching it!
Haha I've never read a comment starting with Frell me dead, that was a first! Before you go buying new RTX A... whatever these are called cards, what application are you using? Revit?
@@Neil3D "Frell me dead!" is a phrase from a heavily irreverent sci-fi TV show called "Farscape" (1999-2004). One of the terms they "made" to substitute for swear words. So, "frell" was used instead of "f!%#". "Mivonks" was used as a substitute for "testicles" -"Now, don't get your mivonks in a twizzy." So on. I'm looking to use the GPU's with MAYA, a 3D Rendering Program of Autodesk. As I said, I'm building the computer myself b/c in this area I've already gotten screwed over on one build I ordered an upgrade on and it took the guy three weeks to give me a computer with exactly the same specs, just a slight increase in RAM and CPU.
But the problem I have now is I don't know what to buy for the GPU! I planned on buying 2 GPU- Quadro 8000. I'm buying now all the parts I need to put the computer together (radiator just came today), already had the chassis, fans and controls should be coming on the 18th. Got the new mouse yesterday. Then one right after the other should come. Intel Gen Xeon Platinum (or something similar to that) for a CPU, and on and on it goes...This is for my business! Then I am putting it together under the supervision of a computer engineering professor at the University in our town. I also have the PrimochillVue liquid coming. I did major in Architecture, so it's going to look excellent!
I'm going to use MAYA b/c it fits my style best- I know I have a "spatial" (visual +) learning style, with a secondary "kinetic" learning style. Building anything is right up my wheelhouse, I've done that since I was in 4th grade when I designed my first Halloween costume.
I'm not briefed on all that stuff but I see no reason why it wouldn't be, might take a while to reach mobile but I don't see why it would be any different to that last few generations!
Kind of cool I have one of the last Quadro models in my Dell Precision 7740 workstation, the RTX 5000 Mobile. The only newer one is the Quadro RTX 6000 Mobile - but who has that? There's only one laptop I can find that has it, the Asus ProArt StudioBook One. May become a collector's item.
Do Nvidia not bother with “budget” level CAD cards anymore? Cheapest current Quadro RTX - the 4000 is around £750, and for some reason the repackaged the very aging Pascal P2000 and called it a P2200 last year, not sure why they didn’t just make an Quadro RTX 2000 on a Turing architecture. Anyone wanting a
You didn't said anything about the driver integration of RTX and Quadro in nVidia? G-code processing with Quadro and RTX and integration of driver of Quadro vs. driver of RTX. When you said the 'Quadro' is gone does that only meant the brand name or by that you meant the tight integration of Quadro card driver integration with respect to 3D G-Code processing programs like AutoCAD also gone?
I'm using a rtx 2080ti for unreal engine raytrace rendering animation videos. My project always gets bogged down to 1 to 4 fps. Will adding another rtx 2080ti double my fps? Or will it increase it more than that? I have AMD ryzen 6 with 64 gigs of ram.
If you're using GPU based raytracing in UE4 then adding another GPU should help yes just for the rendering part, but I'd do a lot of research on that before doing it. You need to make sure what you're doing 100% definitely is bound to the GPU for starters, then you need to make sure you have enough room in your PC case for a second GPU, does your motherboard even support SLI as not all of them do, is your power supply rated highly enough for 2x 2080Tis, and after going through all that you're max going to get 2-8fps based on your 1-4fps numbers there... is it even worth it for that. Are their optimisations you can make to the project to speed that up rather than just throwing another GPU at it.
@@Neil3D Thanks. I'll check on if the render is bound to the GPU. I think my power supply might be close to max. Yes I have another slot. And another 4 or so frames isn't worth it. I guess I would have to go to a quadro 8000 to get enough to make a difference. I don't want to cheat with using combination or rasterizaion and raytracing. They raytrace looks too good 😁
I don't know where you got this info but I just called nvidia and asked about this and I was told that this was not true maybe you are referring to a name change but that doesn't mean it's retired but you can call it what you want
Hi, love your videos, I have a question, I'm building a workstation for my wife who uses Imaris software, what card should I go with , Quadro rtx 4000 or 3090?
Clearly go for the 3090. The RTX 4000 is identical to an RTX 2070 with lower clocks (same GPU, same 8GB non-ECC memory, 2x the price of a 2070). The 3090 is 5x (!!!) faster in FP32 compute, 3x faster in FP64 and FP16 compute, and has 3x the memory at 2x the bandwidth. Performance per Watt is 2x as well.
trying to build new workstations, as we are moving away from MAC based machines, due to pricing and support locally. We mainly do Indesign, photoshop and illustrator, with very milted work in Video and visual effects. would you recommend Quadro or normal desktop Geforce 3060s?
Quadro would be an overkill. tbf if you are primarily using it for photoshop, illustrator, even a mid range pc with a 2070s with 8GB+ vram would set you for years but I'm not exactly sure what kind of additional visual effects you are talking about. You can get any 30series with 10GB+ vram, especially if you plan on using 3D motion graphics n rendering. Just make sure you distribute the budget for high end CPU, Ram, SSD etc that would overall boost the performance.
The 3080 Ti will be anywhere between 5x (compute) and 2x (memory bandwidth) faster than the RTX 4000. Also keep in mind that the RTX 4000 is identical to a lower clocked RTX 2070 (same GPU, same 8GB non-ECC memory) for double the price.
So does this presumably mean Autodesk will have to start saying that for 'certified' graphics cards you can use (for example) NVIDIA Quadro RTX 6000 but then in time also a NVIDIA RTX A6000 ? 🤯
@@Neil3D Premier doesnt work with the 980ti because its not "certified". Hopefully this will put a stop to that sort of thing. Programs should check the capabilities, not the specific model, of the card in use.
😆 "Human Malware Plague" 🤣🤦 I find that funnier than I probably should. I don't care if the Quadro name is gone, but the 48Gb GDDR6 cards better not go away, I always hated that they wouldn't let you overclock the Quadro cards (should have selectable power profiles for like enterprise or datacenters or gaming or enthusiast or something)...not sure why "SLI" is dead but I think the RTX move is probably aimed at my generation probably cuz those high-end cards largely only benefit from some more "oomph" frm the memory and firmware drivers that unlocks whatever settings that the RTX drivers wouldn't. I wonder if it's for software development streamline, make one software/driver that works with all of them rather than two or four different tiers, just hardware recognition of what card is installed and run/download/install whatever's required. I think they all the same shit. There's no reason why Quadro cards wouldn't be great for gaming (apart from the lower clockspeed and lack of overclocking ability). I think more people are beginning to understand that whether a card has 8 GB of onboard memory or 48 Gb...for all intents and purposes....a GPU is a GPU (assuming of course all things are relative and all either do or do not have tensor cores or the same architecture and the only difference is memory, power consumption, and muscle*). I don't mind the Quadro name is gone, but good on you for informing people. The nomenclature change I think is probably for software development streamlining, that's my best guess. But with such an established "Quadro" brand, I don't understand why they didn't just keep it. Whatever, I think it's easier to make one driver/firmware that turns on all cards and just have GeForce Experience and like GeForce Experience "Professional/Enterprise" for engineering offices that doesn't target games at engineering offices hahaha and just have that system run driver delivery. It's all the same stuff for the most part.
It ain't going to make drivers much simpler for the consumer for a long time though unless they've come up with a genius way to combat it, because now you've millions of people looking for actual Quadro drivers for Quadro products because they still exist, and now you've got millions of people looking for the new-used-to-be-Quadro drivers with no name, which use the same driver package, no idea how they plan on doing that!
@TFI Well, if "legacy" or previous product support is the primary focus, I wouldn't alter the driver nomenclature for cards that are actually labelled "Quadro" and would develop Quadro drivers for those cards until end of life. If I were in charge, this would make it easier and less stressful for products already in the field as the company shifts towards a new direction. The goal, however, is to (for lack of a better term) "dripfeed" the enterprise Quadro clients the future and current nomenclature direction so that they understand nothing old is changing, but here on out, it's new. It's less stressful if the old stuff is as irrelevant as possible to the new direction. As far as the "new genius way" is concerned, you can go about it in a variety of ways, "automation" being the primary focus, especially when it comes to enterprise solutions. The difference between a driver, software, and firmware, if we talk about their "soul," they are the same - a single or a collection of computer programs assigned with some task to do on the machine. But it’s the work that defines the roots of those categories in which we put them. In other words, the fundamental difference between firmware, driver, and software is their design purpose. Firmware is a program that gives life to the device hardware. A driver is a middle man between the OS and the hardware components. And software (GeForce Experience) makes the use of the hardware in the best possible ways and has the potential to update the other two (if they are built to leverage it). The Firmware is designed to control the hardware of a device. It is present on a non-volatile memory chip and rarely requires an update. In the case of a personal computer, we call it the BIOS (Basic Input/Output System) or UEFI (Unified Extensible Firmware Interface). A driver, much like the driver of a car, its task is to drive the hardware it’s designed for, i.e., act as the mediator between the hardware and the operating system. Think of the firmware as the drivers ability and skill to drive, not the actual training/certifications required for let's say lorry or tractor trailer driving. Firmware and software development is what is largely going to be the focus in this regard (if I had to make an educated guess) because the firmware just has to allow you to use the device, for example allow you to use the GPU display ports in a new system build without the most optimized driver for the OS or the intended purpose of the GPU. Nvidia has made great strides in this regard and I imagine they will largely focus on automated driver delivery so that the job of "selecting the driver" in the first place becomes extraneous, irrelevant. What I would do is focus more on hardware recognition and automated driver delivery and improve support for Linux based operating systems so that the user just hits "Update" and that's it. Their Jetson Developer kits and increased Linux support is proof of this, but they are unfortunately unnecessarily proprietary because they don't want to give any market share to AMD or anyone else. I suspect we'll see more of this proof in 2021, if it had to guess. Microsoft, I believe, is headed toward the Linux kernel. [Microsoft last week announced a preview of the new Edge for Linux would be available to Edge Insider testers in October. The Linux version of Edge is intended for IT pros and developers to test web sites. "Microsoft developers are now landing features in the Linux kernel to improve WSL. And that points in a fascinating technical direction," writes Raymond.] If that is true, than Nvidia is forced to write legitimate Nvidia Drivers which makes their development easier as well because Unix and Linux systems, although not exactly the same, are far more similar to Windows's shitty unstable kernel and Linux's just unbelievable superior kernel. The scalability with Linux is far easier, in my personal opinion.
@Tegridy Farms Lmfao dude I love the name 🤣 That truly doesn't surprise me at all that workstations are becoming more RTX based, I would probably stop at the RTX Titan if it were my money unless I needed the massive ram and power (like more cuda cores and tensor cores) for Machine Learning or Deep Neural Network simulation/training. I think that's the only real benefit. VRAM does, however, speed up simulation rendering significantly, at least from what I've noticed with things like complex Toolpath generation inside Fusion 360 or Inventor HSM/CAM. But that's only going like 2 or 4 Gb to like 8 or 12Gb, I imagined a relatively linear curve though plateauing a bit after 24Gb, but I have not tested it yet. Memory has its uses, for sure, but without comparable clock speeds and core count linear scaling, it's all just marketing. I know games can't leverage that yet, but VRAM is definitely useful for things like VR and whatnot, but I'm thinking ahead more so than anything else. Nvidia is nothing if not good at marketing 😆 at least I think they are, not perfect, but respectable.
@@Neil3D touchè my dear friend. Amd has invested allot in making drivers legit from launch. The w5000 is a good example of that. They tend to learn and listen to their customers better then their competition.
rtx quadro are more intended for game develop then professional design unless they work with the main brands of software and make more compelling architecture develop maybe a virtual tour to your future house
I don't believe Nvidia have ever marketed Quadro as being more intended for Game design over any other market, they have global teams within Nvidia employed to push Quadro within each sector and to my knowledge Game Design has never been the 'primary' target market above all else for Quadro products.
Hello. I have Quadro RTX5000 1 and a half years ago it was work for Premiere cc 2020 video editing and DaVinci Resolve 17 also 3D, I am very satisfied and very fast rendering. RTX 2080 Ti for gaming.
They're completely different, you can't compare them and put one as being better. 3080 is what you'd get if you're wanting to play games and use CAD programs that support GeForce, the RTX5000 is something you'd get if you need GPU power for hardware accelerated pro apps and need lots of VRAM... but don't particularly care about games at all. Very different use cases.
I think it's a good move. From what I have understood, what nvidia is simply doing is that it's simply rebranding the quadro cards but maintaining their performance abilities. I support the move because its stressful for entry level users who do not have much knowledge concerning graphics cards when choosing a graphics card. I was once stressed when I wanted to buy a new pc that would work well with both lumion and revit for my architectural works. Lumion recommended the rtx cards while revit recommended the quadro cards. It was important that i acquired a pc with graphics card that offered the best performance for the both softwares. With this move, i feel the debate can be over once and for all.
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I am a victim of this goof-up. I wanted to buy a graphic card for Solidworks but ended up in buying 3060 Ti which is for gaming I understand. Any idea if this card can be used for it.
@@Neil3D just wondering if you'll be getting a 3080 or 3090? Would love to see performance numbers for some cad and cam pro packages. Not sure if NVlink has VRAM pooling on the 3080/3090. I know my last gen Quadro RTX 6000 had it thou
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Just get straight to the point please,too much blablabla. Just tell us the reason why they change the name ? And what's the difference compared with Quadro ?
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It's not really my job or responsibility to clarify this, and I don't owe Nvidia anything or any favours, but for clarity... this news doesn't mean that 'old' or previously sold Quadros are now obsolete or rendered useless. Nvidia will still support their previously sold Quadro products, they will still produce drivers for them, and software vendors like Autodesk will still support previous GPUs with the Quadro name for many many years to come. This is simply a branding name decision, a new Quadro was due now, if this was called a Quadro or not called a Quadro it makes no difference to your old Quadro card that you bought earlier this year or last year, or the year before etc.
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@@jaswanthkumar4450 Sure, but read the comments, some people just don't understand what any of this means even when it's explained as clearly as it gets, they only hear "Quadro retired" then look see they have a Quadro and panic that what they have is now going to stop working. It sounds ridiculous but a lot of people who are end users of these products just aren't savvy with how all this works.
@@Neil3D yesss😀😄😄
If everyone keeps calling the professional cards Quadro they might re-introduce Quadro!
😃 Quattro
True and i personally love the A2000 for any kind of itx gaming build.
I'm sure somebody at Nvidia had a "good" reason for this change, but axing a name as prolific as Quadro off your branding is monumentally stupid. Apparently, they decided it wasn't worth asking their target customer base for input prior to plowing ahead.
Who knows. Maybe AMD FirePro might get some love for a change
I was looking for the explanation of this Ampere all over the Internet and only this video could gave me the most important information in the simpliest easiest way without wasting my time behind a half hour long video. Thank you so much 😍. Creative Designers need to be informed about the lastest technolgy available for their uses but off course Tech Experts need to understand they are just artists, not Techno Geek. We don't need to know all the hour long science behind it. We just need the simpliest guidence on how the new Tech is gonna impact on my creative world. We are just users. 😍
Thanks for the clarification!! I am one of those end users who knows nothing about software and was thinking maybe buying an older model workstation would be better because it “still had Quadro”, not knowing that the newer versions basically also have it, it’s just named differently. Thanks!!
Here I am, a year after this video was uploaded because my confusion with Quadro/RTX branding was immeasurable. I’m a 20-year Nvidia loyalist who’s now just disappointed. They’re going the way of USB-IF with naming insanity that seems to almost be intentionally frustrating
I wonder what will happen to replacement "entry level" spec quadro cards eg. Quadro P1000.
We have some P1000 in our office PCs. It's as slow as a 750 Ti or 960M, so maybe entry level gaming in systems without discrete 6-pin power connector.
@@ProjectPhysX Personally being using the T400 and T1000 for some testing for CAD/DataScience workloads and they are still the same, pretty slow gpus basically with a volta encoder and some tensor features.
It was confusing before as well. Big number = better. But aside from that you wouldn't know that the P1000 is newer than a 4000 🙅
nooo QUADRO... i need this word on my graphics card in my non transparent workstation case.
haha jokes aside, i kind of do miss the sick chrome and quadro name for some reason
What a poor move - I could understand if there was a new groundbreaking feature that made old Quadros look bad like how Intel added i9 to the core series. Quadro is such a well-known brand and so visible I can easily tell someone what to easily look for in the name rather than just a letter. Saying a Quadro will not benefit Inventor anymore than a Geforce except for VRAM etc is far easier than saying the NVIDIA Card with an A before the big number will not benefit Inventor anymore than Geforce except for VRAM etc... Unlearning Quadro is not going to be fun.
Exactly! Like I say, what do you refer to these as!? Its easy enough to say hey, get an A4000 or an A3000 but when discussing GeForce vs Pro Cards, that's just become something I want to Ostrich the f**k out of and smash bury my head into the sand for the foreseeable!
I personally love A2000 6gb for itx pc. :) My pc is really small but the whole system gaming performance is like rtx 3050 and :) it is consuming less watt.
:3 Quadro has potential.
It’s not called Quadro anymore though
A2000 is great for sure (A4000 too) but you now have the 4060Ti low profile which is better and less expensive.
For me, Im beginning my inventor 3d modeling journey so I'd personally like to have the Rtx 3090 kingpin with the additional kingpin water block to add into my loop on my Threadripper 3960x workstation.
But thats just me.
When I saw the title I was hopping that certified drivers for CAD programs are gone and I safely can use an rtx 3070 for my next build. Well I guess I was wrong.
Yea all of that is still on Nvidia and no change there unfortunately, what this means though is you now have two different named sets of drivers, or 1 driver which has to be weirdly titled to make sure it covers both the old Quadro brand and whatever they're calling these. It's just daft.
If they just thought of using "Q" as a designator it would have made a lot more sense. And Q is much cooler looking and sounding than A. It's like Quantum, or Quadro, or that pesky Godlike creature from Star Trek, Q....
NVIDIA RTX Q6000 would have been much better... They really didn't think this through, did they?
Is A standing for Ampere?
Wow... I missed that news by a couple years. It was hard enough to understand their old model numbers for desktops and mobiles to realise the performance was not the same.
Thanks for the info! Also, please, make the intro and outro sound equal to the main video. They are so much loud, like 10 times more. And I like an old natural background than meaningless low-quality chromakey background.
It's only the name. They're still releasing equivalent cards. T400 T1000 etc.
Are they mistakingly opening the doors for AMD ?
Nonsense.
HIM: it was around when i was a kid
ME: computers were around when you were a kid? are you reversing in age?
I am 100% agreed to what you explained.... thats really confusing. QUADRO name is so punchy.. Like.. Yeah we have a professional grade graphic card.. NOW ITS LIKE SH.....I Don't understand why they came up with this shity decision.
Hi, there. What kind of graphic card would be better for architectural programs that require gpu?
Between
*nividia quadro p5200 16gb, hp zbook g5
*nividia geforce rtx 3050 4gb. on a asus vivobook x14
I dont know which one would be better, and after watching this video I'm not that sure.
Facing the exact same decision…have you found your answer yet?
Greetings from Germany:)
@@phay8118 Hello, Noo I still havent found one. But nividia p5200 can render scenes more than rtx 3050, cuase it has more vram. If you want something fast go for an rtx 3070 not lower.
@@wendy2263 Thanks for letting me know! Hope you’ll find the right one for you soon :)
Can you tell if Quadro P1000 still is good in 2023?
....or just ignore the name and look at the price. :-)
that said, nvidias naming 'scheme' has been bonkers for years.
I only know quardro drivers are designed to utilize cad Maya etc
Frell me dead! Or whow! Thank you for making this video. I almost spent money on buying water-blocks for the NVIDIA Quadro 8000 and, thanks to you, I now know not to do that. I agree Steve Ritter, axing the name "Quadro" without any apparent rhyme or reason for it just doesn't seem to make any sense, especially for someone like me, who is building a high-end workstation computer for the very first time. I have a B.S. from a college and I majored in architecture, but at the particular time I went to college, they resisted CAD and actually spent the most time putting focus on the models we built. I chose to finally build one myself (because there is no place around town that deals in anything high-end). Now, I've got to go and watch the video on these new cards. ;-{ Thanks for catching it!
Haha I've never read a comment starting with Frell me dead, that was a first! Before you go buying new RTX A... whatever these are called cards, what application are you using? Revit?
@@Neil3D "Frell me dead!" is a phrase from a heavily irreverent sci-fi TV show called "Farscape" (1999-2004). One of the terms they "made" to substitute for swear words. So, "frell" was used instead of "f!%#". "Mivonks" was used as a substitute for "testicles" -"Now, don't get your mivonks in a twizzy." So on. I'm looking to use the GPU's with MAYA, a 3D Rendering Program of Autodesk. As I said, I'm building the computer myself b/c in this area I've already gotten screwed over on one build I ordered an upgrade on and it took the guy three weeks to give me a computer with exactly the same specs, just a slight increase in RAM and CPU.
But the problem I have now is I don't know what to buy for the GPU! I planned on buying 2 GPU- Quadro 8000. I'm buying now all the parts I need to put the computer together (radiator just came today), already had the chassis, fans and controls should be coming on the 18th. Got the new mouse yesterday. Then one right after the other should come. Intel Gen Xeon Platinum (or something similar to that) for a CPU, and on and on it goes...This is for my business! Then I am putting it together under the supervision of a computer engineering professor at the University in our town. I also have the PrimochillVue liquid coming. I did major in Architecture, so it's going to look excellent!
I'm going to use MAYA b/c it fits my style best- I know I have a "spatial" (visual +) learning style, with a secondary "kinetic" learning style. Building anything is right up my wheelhouse, I've done that since I was in 4th grade when I designed my first Halloween costume.
Nice content. Do you know if ampere is planned for mobile cards?
I'm not briefed on all that stuff but I see no reason why it wouldn't be, might take a while to reach mobile but I don't see why it would be any different to that last few generations!
@GlowyBoi do you have a guess when laptops will start being available?
@GlowyBoi noice, ima an architecture student looking for a new laptop so was wondering, thanks for the info.
Kind of cool I have one of the last Quadro models in my Dell Precision 7740 workstation, the RTX 5000 Mobile. The only newer one is the Quadro RTX 6000 Mobile - but who has that? There's only one laptop I can find that has it, the Asus ProArt StudioBook One. May become a collector's item.
Hello. Could you do some more tutorials on technical drawings please. It is a big part of the whole thing and wholly "underdone" on the interwebs.
Thanks for making this videos
Do Nvidia not bother with “budget” level CAD cards anymore? Cheapest current Quadro RTX - the 4000 is around £750, and for some reason the repackaged the very aging Pascal P2000 and called it a P2200 last year, not sure why they didn’t just make an Quadro RTX 2000 on a Turing architecture. Anyone wanting a
HELP PLEASE! Lenovo ThinkStation P320 Intel Core i7 7700K 32GB RAM - 2TB HDD + 256GB SSD - Nvidia Quadro P4000 8GB . refurbished.. 3 years guaranty 1360 Euro! For ArchiCAD, video edit, render, blender, 3dsmax.. YES or NO????
No.
@@NeededByNobody agreed i took a better one, same price, new and only the gpu is refurbished
We just ordered mobile workstations with this line in the specs. "NVIDIA Quadro RTX 3000 6GB Graphics". Better cancel it or no worries?
No worries. I've just done the same. They'll still support the old Quadro products for a good few years to come.
I ordered the RTX 5000 16 GB workstation. I did get 4 years warranty. Seemed at a discount and this explains
You didn't said anything about the driver integration of RTX and Quadro in nVidia? G-code processing with Quadro and RTX and integration of driver of Quadro vs. driver of RTX. When you said the 'Quadro' is gone does that only meant the brand name or by that you meant the tight integration of Quadro card driver integration with respect to 3D G-Code processing programs like AutoCAD also gone?
I'm using a rtx 2080ti for unreal engine raytrace rendering animation videos. My project always gets bogged down to 1 to 4 fps. Will adding another rtx 2080ti double my fps? Or will it increase it more than that?
I have AMD ryzen 6 with 64 gigs of ram.
If you're using GPU based raytracing in UE4 then adding another GPU should help yes just for the rendering part, but I'd do a lot of research on that before doing it. You need to make sure what you're doing 100% definitely is bound to the GPU for starters, then you need to make sure you have enough room in your PC case for a second GPU, does your motherboard even support SLI as not all of them do, is your power supply rated highly enough for 2x 2080Tis, and after going through all that you're max going to get 2-8fps based on your 1-4fps numbers there... is it even worth it for that. Are their optimisations you can make to the project to speed that up rather than just throwing another GPU at it.
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Thanks. I'll check on if the render is bound to the GPU. I think my power supply might be close to max. Yes I have another slot. And another 4 or so frames isn't worth it.
I guess I would have to go to a quadro 8000 to get enough to make a difference.
I don't want to cheat with using combination or rasterizaion and raytracing. They raytrace looks too good 😁
So will there be successors to the entry level Quadros like the Quadro P1000 or Quadro P620 ? Thanks for the clarifying video.
I don't know where you got this info but I just called nvidia and asked about this and I was told that this was not true maybe you are referring to a name change but that doesn't mean it's retired but you can call it what you want
Hi, love your videos, I have a question, I'm building a workstation for my wife who uses Imaris software, what card should I go with , Quadro rtx 4000 or 3090?
Clearly go for the 3090. The RTX 4000 is identical to an RTX 2070 with lower clocks (same GPU, same 8GB non-ECC memory, 2x the price of a 2070). The 3090 is 5x (!!!) faster in FP32 compute, 3x faster in FP64 and FP16 compute, and has 3x the memory at 2x the bandwidth. Performance per Watt is 2x as well.
Can't get over the jacksepticeye from the future look. :)
trying to build new workstations, as we are moving away from MAC based machines, due to pricing and support locally. We mainly do Indesign, photoshop and illustrator, with very milted work in Video and visual effects. would you recommend Quadro or normal desktop Geforce 3060s?
Quadro would be an overkill. tbf if you are primarily using it for photoshop, illustrator, even a mid range pc with a 2070s with 8GB+ vram would set you for years but I'm not exactly sure what kind of additional visual effects you are talking about.
You can get any 30series with 10GB+ vram, especially if you plan on using 3D motion graphics n rendering. Just make sure you distribute the budget for high end CPU, Ram, SSD etc that would overall boost the performance.
Sir, which one can take out faster lumion animation - Geforce RTX 3080ti or Quadro RTX 4000 8GB GDDR6
The 3080 Ti will be anywhere between 5x (compute) and 2x (memory bandwidth) faster than the RTX 4000.
Also keep in mind that the RTX 4000 is identical to a lower clocked RTX 2070 (same GPU, same 8GB non-ECC memory) for double the price.
Maybe they'll finally unlock 10 bit color on GeForce cards.
Does Quadro P1000 do something good in games?
It is basically a GTX1050 but with 4GB of VRAM. Not quite a 1050Ti although you may be able to overclock it to a similar frequency.
So does this presumably mean Autodesk will have to start saying that for 'certified' graphics cards you can use (for example) NVIDIA Quadro RTX 6000
but then in time also a NVIDIA RTX A6000 ? 🤯
They'll just list the RTX A6000 alongside the Quadro RTX6000 etc on their certified page yea
@@Neil3D Premier doesnt work with the 980ti because its not "certified". Hopefully this will put a stop to that sort of thing. Programs should check the capabilities, not the specific model, of the card in use.
quadro product lineup already is confusing AF.
😆 "Human Malware Plague" 🤣🤦 I find that funnier than I probably should.
I don't care if the Quadro name is gone, but the 48Gb GDDR6 cards better not go away, I always hated that they wouldn't let you overclock the Quadro cards (should have selectable power profiles for like enterprise or datacenters or gaming or enthusiast or something)...not sure why "SLI" is dead but I think the RTX move is probably aimed at my generation probably cuz those high-end cards largely only benefit from some more "oomph" frm the memory and firmware drivers that unlocks whatever settings that the RTX drivers wouldn't.
I wonder if it's for software development streamline, make one software/driver that works with all of them rather than two or four different tiers, just hardware recognition of what card is installed and run/download/install whatever's required.
I think they all the same shit. There's no reason why Quadro cards wouldn't be great for gaming (apart from the lower clockspeed and lack of overclocking ability). I think more people are beginning to understand that whether a card has 8 GB of onboard memory or 48 Gb...for all intents and purposes....a GPU is a GPU (assuming of course all things are relative and all either do or do not have tensor cores or the same architecture and the only difference is memory, power consumption, and muscle*).
I don't mind the Quadro name is gone, but good on you for informing people. The nomenclature change I think is probably for software development streamlining, that's my best guess. But with such an established "Quadro" brand, I don't understand why they didn't just keep it. Whatever, I think it's easier to make one driver/firmware that turns on all cards and just have GeForce Experience and like GeForce Experience "Professional/Enterprise" for engineering offices that doesn't target games at engineering offices hahaha and just have that system run driver delivery. It's all the same stuff for the most part.
It ain't going to make drivers much simpler for the consumer for a long time though unless they've come up with a genius way to combat it, because now you've millions of people looking for actual Quadro drivers for Quadro products because they still exist, and now you've got millions of people looking for the new-used-to-be-Quadro drivers with no name, which use the same driver package, no idea how they plan on doing that!
@TFI Well, if "legacy" or previous product support is the primary focus, I wouldn't alter the driver nomenclature for cards that are actually labelled "Quadro" and would develop Quadro drivers for those cards until end of life. If I were in charge, this would make it easier and less stressful for products already in the field as the company shifts towards a new direction. The goal, however, is to (for lack of a better term) "dripfeed" the enterprise Quadro clients the future and current nomenclature direction so that they understand nothing old is changing, but here on out, it's new. It's less stressful if the old stuff is as irrelevant as possible to the new direction.
As far as the "new genius way" is concerned, you can go about it in a variety of ways, "automation" being the primary focus, especially when it comes to enterprise solutions.
The difference between a driver, software, and firmware, if we talk about their "soul," they are the same - a single or a collection of computer programs assigned with some task to do on the machine. But it’s the work that defines the roots of those categories in which we put them.
In other words, the fundamental difference between firmware, driver, and software is their design purpose. Firmware is a program that gives life to the device hardware. A driver is a middle man between the OS and the hardware components. And software (GeForce Experience) makes the use of the hardware in the best possible ways and has the potential to update the other two (if they are built to leverage it). The Firmware is designed to control the hardware of a device. It is present on a non-volatile memory chip and rarely requires an update. In the case of a personal computer, we call it the BIOS (Basic Input/Output System) or UEFI (Unified Extensible Firmware Interface).
A driver, much like the driver of a car, its task is to drive the hardware it’s designed for, i.e., act as the mediator between the hardware and the operating system. Think of the firmware as the drivers ability and skill to drive, not the actual training/certifications required for let's say lorry or tractor trailer driving.
Firmware and software development is what is largely going to be the focus in this regard (if I had to make an educated guess) because the firmware just has to allow you to use the device, for example allow you to use the GPU display ports in a new system build without the most optimized driver for the OS or the intended purpose of the GPU.
Nvidia has made great strides in this regard and I imagine they will largely focus on automated driver delivery so that the job of "selecting the driver" in the first place becomes extraneous, irrelevant. What I would do is focus more on hardware recognition and automated driver delivery and improve support for Linux based operating systems so that the user just hits "Update" and that's it. Their Jetson Developer kits and increased Linux support is proof of this, but they are unfortunately unnecessarily proprietary because they don't want to give any market share to AMD or anyone else.
I suspect we'll see more of this proof in 2021, if it had to guess.
Microsoft, I believe, is headed toward the Linux kernel.
[Microsoft last week announced a preview of the new Edge for Linux would be available to Edge Insider testers in October. The Linux version of Edge is intended for IT pros and developers to test web sites.
"Microsoft developers are now landing features in the Linux kernel to improve WSL. And that points in a fascinating technical direction," writes Raymond.]
If that is true, than Nvidia is forced to write legitimate Nvidia Drivers which makes their development easier as well because Unix and Linux systems, although not exactly the same, are far more similar to Windows's shitty unstable kernel and Linux's just unbelievable superior kernel. The scalability with Linux is far easier, in my personal opinion.
@Tegridy Farms Lmfao dude I love the name 🤣
That truly doesn't surprise me at all that workstations are becoming more RTX based, I would probably stop at the RTX Titan if it were my money unless I needed the massive ram and power (like more cuda cores and tensor cores) for Machine Learning or Deep Neural Network simulation/training. I think that's the only real benefit.
VRAM does, however, speed up simulation rendering significantly, at least from what I've noticed with things like complex Toolpath generation inside Fusion 360 or Inventor HSM/CAM. But that's only going like 2 or 4 Gb to like 8 or 12Gb, I imagined a relatively linear curve though plateauing a bit after 24Gb, but I have not tested it yet. Memory has its uses, for sure, but without comparable clock speeds and core count linear scaling, it's all just marketing. I know games can't leverage that yet, but VRAM is definitely useful for things like VR and whatnot, but I'm thinking ahead more so than anything else. Nvidia is nothing if not good at marketing 😆 at least I think they are, not perfect, but respectable.
Alternate of Quadro P620 ?
why its gone? its there
Lets face it, your probably better off buying the new amd WX when it drops...
If they can make a reliable driver for it
@@Neil3D touchè my dear friend.
Amd has invested allot in making drivers legit from launch. The w5000 is a good example of that.
They tend to learn and listen to their customers better then their competition.
rtx quadro are more intended for game develop then professional design unless they work with the main brands of software and make more compelling architecture develop maybe a virtual tour to your future house
I don't believe Nvidia have ever marketed Quadro as being more intended for Game design over any other market, they have global teams within Nvidia employed to push Quadro within each sector and to my knowledge Game Design has never been the 'primary' target market above all else for Quadro products.
Hello. I have Quadro RTX5000 1 and a half years ago it was work for Premiere cc 2020 video editing and DaVinci Resolve 17 also 3D, I am very satisfied and very fast rendering. RTX 2080 Ti for gaming.
please , Which is the better Rtx 3080 max or quadro Rtx 5000 for laptop?
They're completely different, you can't compare them and put one as being better. 3080 is what you'd get if you're wanting to play games and use CAD programs that support GeForce, the RTX5000 is something you'd get if you need GPU power for hardware accelerated pro apps and need lots of VRAM... but don't particularly care about games at all. Very different use cases.
@@Neil3D finally i have chose the rtx quadro because i need it for 3d work , thank you for clarification
I think it's a good move. From what I have understood, what nvidia is simply doing is that it's simply rebranding the quadro cards but maintaining their performance abilities. I support the move because its stressful for entry level users who do not have much knowledge concerning graphics cards when choosing a graphics card. I was once stressed when I wanted to buy a new pc that would work well with both lumion and revit for my architectural works. Lumion recommended the rtx cards while revit recommended the quadro cards. It was important that i acquired a pc with graphics card that offered the best performance for the both softwares. With this move, i feel the debate can be over once and for all.
I disagree. Now their gaming and workstation class cards are both called RTX.
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I will miss Quadro
the A6000 does look better though ngl
I only know and have Quadro TV
great video...
buy a portable workstation, skip the laptop PC kids.
I have NVIDIA QUADRO :(
Please help me will using mining motherboard with 8 gpu increase production speed ? I will use this machine for rendering video animations
just buy a 3090ti
Well i use GPU like Nvidia Quadro 600
Quadro RTX A6000??
it's a Monster, and demon if use NvLink
Maybe AMD will resurrect the FireGL name. :P
Or maybe just go all the way back to being ATI again!
@@Neil3D The A1000-Ti refresh model will be an ATI card, syntactically at least.
Excuse me sir, you can give me a help to me??? It's ok for media server PLEX, and rendering video Nvidia quadro o rtx??? I subscribe Your channel and i salute you to ITALY TAKE CARE Maurizio.
Yes I run my Plex server on a PC with a Quadro graphics card in and it's absolutely perfect! Grazie!
3090 is better and saving cost.
I am a victim of this goof-up. I wanted to buy a graphic card for Solidworks but ended up in buying 3060 Ti which is for gaming I understand. Any idea if this card can be used for it.
Can I support you with Autodesk Education Account? I loved the old DX Racer rant vid btw.
Wow that's an old one! An education account is free so that can't be used on the store, but it's cool, you're supporting by watching and commenting :)
@@Neil3D just wondering if you'll be getting a 3080 or 3090? Would love to see performance numbers for some cad and cam pro packages. Not sure if NVlink has VRAM pooling on the 3080/3090. I know my last gen Quadro RTX 6000 had it thou
What !
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I game on a quadro lol
If this tiny tiny thing confused you, you shouldn't be trying to buy a high end graphics card to begin with.
Well that's not how the world works lad
very poor marketing strategy , it is likely the decision is done by dumb upper management.
Nvidia is punishing Hardware Unboxed for reporting on news about Nvidia.
Ban Nvidia. Do not review their products.
I will unsubscribe from any reviewer or tech news/opinion maker who continues to review Nvidia products.
Just get straight to the point please,too much blablabla. Just tell us the reason why they change the name ? And what's the difference compared with Quadro ?
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