@Back2Bay6 I love my new Kawasaki W800 Street but, before that I owned a Harley touring bike for 10 years and 85,000km. I loved that bike and can't say anything really bad about it other than it was damn heavy. The heaviness makes it incredibly stable and comfortable on the highway mind you. Cruising along at highway speeds in 6th gear is a magic carpet ride. I'm loving the character and maneuverability of my W800, but then, it's not really meant as a touring bike like my beloved red Harley.
It's not retro. Retro is modern but deliberately styled to make it look old. This is just the basic way that Guzzis have looked for years. It's not harking back; it's a natural evolution of an existing look. You could say the version with wire wheels and clip ons is retro, I suppose. For comparison, when John Bloor bought Triumph, he tried to get away from the old Triumph look, made all those excellent modular-engined modern-looking bikes, to establish the brand and THEN started making ones styled to look a bit like the old Bonnies and cash in on the heritage. That is retro - which doesn't stop the Triumphs from being good bikes, by the way. That aside, any bike is either good to ride or not. The V7 is good to ride. I'm on my 2nd (the first was stolen) and I've used it for everything from a 40 mile round trip commute, in all weathers, to 200 mile day trips, and 2 up camping trips. It will exceed the highest speed limit in the country by 40%, it is economical to ride, will out accelerate anything but a sports car or sports bike, and it is comfortable, reliable, and a joy to ride.
I’ve had the same bike but the Racer version for 2 years. No issues at all other than dealership is 4 hours away. The red frame and chrome tank make my heart flutter. The sound makes my blood flow ever so much quicker.
I am an owner of a 2009 V7 Classic.. Love the motorcycle and completely agree with this reviewer. I am also in agreement with Andrew (below) that this is one of the best motorcycle review presentation.
One of the best reviews on a beautiful Moto Guzzi, been obsessed with them yet never owned one. No dealership anywhere near me and well the dry clutch (use the friction zone). Cheers
Thanks Andrew, sorry you haven't got a dealer near you but I'll be posting a lot more videos on it in the future so believe me you'll feel like you own one by the end
I agree, Andrew, Rarified was clear in describing the pros and cons. One point was kept clear of another. Keep those hopes alive you one day own one, because as the reviewer said ,overall this is a bike that you can live with in a relaxed way,and that doesn't have to live up to a lot of hype. A reviewer of the V7 111 Stone, went abroad on it and did nearly 300 miles one day- BMW plus fairing territory!. For me that just about sums up the fun and comfort of riding the modern Guzzis
PS Poor handling in wet is down to the tyres. Rarefied ws too diplomtic to say it, but ditch the original tyres as soon as poss. Bridgestones are a good replacement but read 80;8 photography and design's recommendation in his reviews
I frankly have no idea where the nearest Moto Guzzi dealer is in comparison to where I live but I sure am glad that I banished all those totally rational fears before I bought the lightly used '03 Cali Stone 1100 that I picked up north of Seattle approx. 90 days ago. Great ride home 175 miles back South to my place. I wanted a Griso but this was a desperate private party who had just bumped his ad down from $3,500 to $2,800. Needless to say I pounced. So glad I did because it surpasses every expectation I had of them. I also have owned a 1976 V 1000 I convert for half a dozen years with 55,000 miles that I am sort of "resto modding". Total comprehensive brake system rebuild. Ported the heads and lapped in the valves. Tearing into the dual range gearbox to solve the dilemma of why it won't go into either range. Having a peek into the engine and how little wear was evident sold me on the brand. So much so that I yearned for another M.G. and this Cali. Stone had caught my eye with it's low miles and asking price. Best $2,800 I ever spent and OMG! The sound that comes out of those twin stainless LaFranconi's!!! I guess both my M.G.'s are cruisers yet they both are built on the Tonti frame and handle great. My biggest fear is what I have heard about the Nikasil treatment of the cylinders flaking off to some extent on certain bikes. Alas my '76 has iron liners per police spec. and the model conceived to satisfy the desire for An auto trans. that would allow for simplified riding and must make for the best funeral escort bike ever. Relatively simple bikes with great engineering, handling and power which I actually find more than adequate. Yeah, I'm glad I stuck to my convictions and bought another Moto Guzzi. If it continues to run as it has since I bought it then I will have the luxury of not being overly concerned about the big gaps in the dealer network.
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I live smack bang in the middle of Japan and own one. It upsets the nationals. Lmao
The first minute of this review might be the best motorcycle review EVER on the internet. Seriously. You just answered all the questions of your viewers, in a sweet and succinct way.
I have recently bought a V7 STONE II myself (my first every motorbike after passing my test), and your review was a factor in me going with this bike, so thanks for that. In regards to the electrical smell - in my excitement to receive delivery of the bike, I did something I never normally do and read the PDF manual - in the manual it states that the dry clutch used on the bike can produce an electrical smell in use and its nothing to worry about?!
That would actually make sense. Nothing ever seemed to break on it after the smell and nothing was smoking so it probably was the dry clutch. Either way it lasted me well. Hope you enjoy the bike mate, it's a cracking bike to start on.
Thanks for your review. Unfortunately I am no longer able to drive/ride due to health issues. The upside is that I enjoy the fact that my son has just bought a new V7 3 Stone with Night pack, and waiting for a screen and centre stand. I had a V50 Guzzi many years ago ( probably the first in Wales, at least South Wales) and loved the bike. I’ve just subscribed and lol forward to more videos. Regards, Bob M, South Wales
Thanks Bob, sorry to hear that you're off the road but I'm sure your son is representing you well on those twisty welsh roads. Thanks for subscribing, I'll do my best not to disappoint.
To all the people who say "retro bikes are for posers": No, it's for me as an owner to love looking at. It's the bike that poses for me. I don't pose with it, I ride the thing. Same reason I enjoy having a hot girlfriend.
I agree . To me retro bikes look like a bike should. Some of the more modern bikes with pointy light noses, and other angular bits, just look plain ugly. Some of the sports bikes, I'm thinking Ducati Panigale look good, but I haven't got the money, don't want the riding position giving me an aching neck and wrists, and this side of doing track days I can't see why I'd want one. 200BHP on the road is just insane, I guess don't twist the throttle too much, but then what's the point ? (yes there are some supersport 600cc class machines that are not quite so insane, but there's still the riding position.) So a modern take on retro roadster does it for me . I like modern brakes, traction control, ABS, oil tight seals and not breaking down every 100 miles. (Maybe I'll have a classic to "fettle" one day , but it wouldn't be my only bike )
I just got mine, a '14 V7 Stone. Less than 9600mi on it and it is a really fun bike! Last bike before this one was an '85 Honda Nighthawk 450 so this is quite an upgrade!
Lovely review. As an owner of the dark Carbon 2018, I must say so far - touch wood, no electronics or otherwise any issues. What I love about this bike is exactly as you put it, not too fast, not too slow neither, gives you a relax ride, and not to mention the turning point is massive, perfect for commute and filtering. I Put Mistral pipes and the sweet sound of heaven comes out with a cheeky boost in torque.
May I ask Please, WHERE did you purchase the 'Mistral pipes'? And WHAT country are you in? Thank You and regards. (Melbourne, Victoria, 'OZ', - Australia)
@@coolatzo THANK YOU Farshad, GREATLY APPRECIATED. I will make enquiries on Monday at the Guzzi dealership 'spare parts'. They should be able to get it here to 'OZ'. Thanks again. - Hav a gd 1.
I had a Moto Guzzi Le Mans for 35 years. I used it as my ride to work bike, and drove it all over UK & Europe. I added a 1200 Sport to my "stable" in 2007 for daily use, but it was written off in an accident the same year. I can now only ride automatic bikes with modified controls, so I had to part with the Le Mans - which broke my heart. I still have and love one Moto Guzzi - a 1978 I-Convert (side car outfit), and I also have a Honda NC750X DCT (solo) which is a delight to ride, but I just drool at the sight and sound of these new V7's!! They are just the dog's bollocks!
Old Guzzi owner here, had a T3 back in the 80's, very reliable and sounded gorgeous with Lafranconi pipes. I love the fact they have kept their heritage with the same air cooled V twin motor and the 'add ons' only make your V7 even better. Thinking I should sell my Beema and get a Guzzi again. Thanks for the excellent video.
I own a 2016 Motto Guzzi Stone and I love it. Most likely will never get rid of it. I also own a 2015 Harley Super Low 1200T that I also love. The Motto Guzzi when I ride it takes me back to the 1970's. Great bike for what it is and what it represents. just replaced the tires on the MG V7II due to excessive riding ;-)
Brilliant. I test rode a V7iii, couldn't agree more with your summary of the V7, most importantly, how it's not in competition and allows you to enjoy a ride, planning and thinking about what you are doing, instead of relying on the bike to sort out your riding shortcomings. Thanks.
I found the V7 very easy to ride, not one you have to overthink. You can enjoy the ride and the scenery more. I bought a V7 II because it was cheaper used, and because it has a much longer power band than the V7 III. The 3 seemed to need the gears shifted more often; riding in town needed a lower gear. And two clocks.
That is the thing I like most about it, it makes me appreciate the ride a bit more than some other bikes that I've ridden. And I get off it at the other end feeling a little more calm.
As far as Italian bikes, I have owned a ducati 860, moto morini 500 camel, laverda 3cl 1000, cagiva 650, and currently have a 1989 Moto Guzzi Mille GT 1000 and a 2013 Moto Guzzi Stone 750. Have owned several German bikes to include BMW and Zundaps. Grew up with British bikes--meaning Triumph and BSA. Have never been interested in Harley. Owned several Suzuki's to include 2-stroke models and the Wankel rotary 750. The Moto Guzzis have been my favorite above all the rest. Quirky, reliable, tractor-like in that the Japanese "refinement" is not there--but if you love just being connected to machinery and sound--Moto Guzzi!--mike battle
Today, I bought a 2016 V7 II Special with under 500 miles on it for just over half the price of a new 2022 Special. It ran great during the 45 mile ride home on Texas interstates, but I did notice a slight burning smell.
I enjoyed your review, thanks. I have the V7II Racer and I love it. Enough speed for me - 150kph is easy to find, but at risk of losing my licence her in Aust. I've owned over 16 different bikes, including a Moto Guzzi Daytona 1000 and MK V and very happy with this bike. The fuel tank is large and I am getting 20km per litre - happy with that. Racer suspension is good, if set up correctly. I have Agostini mufflers and a revised map and no problems - touch wood. Gorgeous to boot :)
Sounds nice. I'd quite like to attempt some performance upgrades for mine actually now that I've got it looking how I wanted. Does the remapping make it feel much different?
On open road she is needs just a bit of fuel. I ride the V7iii and did 520km with 23,5 lt of fuel 1o days ago. In the city though, I live in Athens she needs more than 50% fuel for the same distance though!
Well done young man |Good review... I think you will always have a soft spot for guzzi's. Once bitten there is no going back.... Live to ride, ride to work...Good luck
Enjoyed your insights. I have 40,000+ km on a 2013 V7 Special. Mine handles fine in the rain since I upgraded tyres and suspension. Whenever something comes off it usually goes back on with non-permanent thread lock... a suggestion built on experience.
What tyres and suspend you get? 😜I'm keen to get a v7iii soon and I've heard other people mentioning the suspension and how good it is after they've changed it.👌🏼
Thank you, I've got a good supply on thread lock from owning an old MT03 so I'll take your suggestion. My tyres are almost fit for changing now anyway so I think I'll make sure I stick on something a bit better. I'm leaning towards either some Continentals or Bridgestone's.
@@gabriellajaro5326 It's an Italian bike so I went with Mupo suspension. Replaced rear shocks, changed fork springs (rated to my weight) and added an emulator kit. A day of tinkering.
@@RarefiedRoad I've had a couple sets of Bridgestone BTX45, Pirelli Sport Demon and Pirelli Scorpion Trail (1). BTX are decent all rounders, Sport D were good but short lived, I'd have another set of the Trails if I could find them.
Great video. I like how you answer the stupid questions right up front. I don't care about electronics but I do want it not to leak fluids. Went to see a 2013 V7 this weekend and it had small oil leak. Loved the sound and the quirky feel of the engine's pistons pulling to the side. Never felt that sensation before. I look for bikes that have an addictive quality that transcends specs. The fact that they have been making the same thing for so long is a good sign. I also like the factory, the people that make it, the town it is made in and the pedigree. I also like the character of the engine as it has a personality. Perfection is boring and sterile. This bike has no pretense. Thanks for conveying what it is and what it is not.
Thanks James. It certainly does have an additictive quality, it's the sort of bike I find myself wanting to ride a lot. Some other bikes that I've owned haven't had that effect.
Actually since owning it I've had nothing but comments about it, I think it was just a few reviews that I'd seen and read that were less than complimentary about the retro scene. It's a brilliant bike to own.
If you're smelling hot electrics there's a good chance it's your rectifier regulator overheating. I dont know about guzzis specifically but that's the part that gets hot and can take quite a bit of cooking before it does completely. Might want to see how hot it is next time you smell the smell.
Great review! I have a V711 for about a year and a half. I have had no issues with the motorcycle and have been mainly using as a commuter back and forth to work. I just went to North Carolina to ride the tail of the dragon and mountain riding. I noticed the electric smell that you mentioned for the first time. I do not know where it is coming from, but like you said I have had no issues on my trip. I did ride the bike in second and third gear a lot with high revs to get through the elevations. I have had a California sport for 10 years and rode cross country twice and never had that smell. I will try to find out from one of the dealers around me.
Thanks. It's nice to know they can do the mileage, we haven't got as much land over here so I've only been able to take it 500 miles or so. Mine hasn't made the smell in a while so I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it's gone, maybe it was a cable getting hot somewhere and I've moved it when I've been adjusting things. Let me know if you get an answer from the dealer.
I am an older guy, and Moto Guzzi bikes have always been among the most reliable that we had, before the Japanese invasion of two stroke engines. And they always had crappy electrical, as Ducati, but Ducati was not mechanically reliable. Remember Moto Guzzi made engines for planes too, in the early days. Everybody knows that of BMW, few of Moto Guzzi. The Guzzi remained reliable throughout the years. The V7 engine will never let you down. They have come a long way from the clonking gear boxes, and they are now almost perfect. A good vibration bike that never lets you down!
Nice review, thanks! I just got a 2019 V7 III Stone "Night Pack" - led head/tail lights. As you didn't say (but implied), this is one of the most beautiful bikes out there! Not just the looks but the sound too. No electronics problems so far, but I do miss the tach! MG charge a silly price for the tach, sadly. I've also heard that the tires are the problem with handling and should be replaced asap.
Rode a Harley in the US. Meh. Owned a Honda Shadow here in England. Ok. Tried a Triumph Bonnie for a bit. Too refined and chain drive (unsuitable for our weather) Switched it for a Guzzi... First few months were difficult. Akin to taming a horse. The beauty of the bike is It becomes yours with time. And in the end. You can’t part with it.
I had a 2003 Moto Guzzi Breva 750 IE which was the first of a new generation made at that time by Aprillia. I had no problems with Electronics and it had a lot of miles on the clock, however I did have to renew the battery. I put a motobat battery in it and had no further issues.
Not sure a comparison that includes a nearly 20 year old bike is a ringing endorsement but maybe. I bought a Moto Guzzi California Stone 2003 with 5,700 miles for $2,800 so maybe. An older low mile well kept/stored bike can be among the best value for money spent in the motorcycling world.
I don`t know why I`m rewatching this! I guess my desire for MG V7 is not fading. Recently I got Suzuki VX800 as a stepping stone to V7. Hopefully in 1-2seasons I`ll get V7.
Very cool! Great review and fun presenting style! I have a 2015 V7 Racer and when you turned on / revved the engine I was like oh yeah, that’s the sound. Top notch!
Moto Guzzi will supply a performance exhaust by Agostini - a whole system if required - Those can's sound very much like the base note's of Agostini and no bad thing at all.
Thank you for this. I love the honesty. This helped me realize that I still need some easy don't need to be a mechanic just put fuel in go Japanese bike lol
Nice review once again ! I do like the look, the finish and the sound of this bike. Looks like you could make a trip around the world with this bike, i like it. Still have troubles with this V engine design but.. keep in mind it's a "bug eyes" speed Triple owner who says that, one of the most controversed design ever :D Enjoy, have fun and keep up the good work :)
Thank you. I wasn't sure on the styling, but then it grew on me. But then I wasn't sure of the styling on my Street Triple and that grew on me too. Extremely different bikes and enjoyable in very different ways, I guess what I'm trying to say is that all bikes are great and I love them all :) Thanks for watching.
I’ve wanted one for years, and it’s on my list for finally buying a retro bike, but the electrics scare me. Not to mention depreciation and lack of demand on the used market. But Guzzi is so appealing for the heritage, the brand, and the culture. It’s just wonderfully different compared to other retro bikes from India, England and Japan.
Rarefied Road Southern California. The few Guzzi dealers left have unsold bikes going back as far as 2017 in some cases, with plenty of 2018 and 2019 models still available. Obviously the discounts are tempting, but I might be stuck with it for awhile if I grow tired of it. I’m also still very interested in the RE 650, W800, and Bonneville/Speed Twin. I am biased toward Triumph.
Alex LaJeunesse had the RE650 and really the only gem is the engine and the looks. Can easily tell that the designing and budget went mostly into the engine. Rest of the bike is really on the cheap side, but that’s to be expected for a $5900 bike. For the price, it’s unbeatable. If you really need to get an RE, get a single pumper. That’s where the real character of the bikes lie
In the Pacific NorthWest of the U.S. I find Moto Guzzi generally seem to retain value pretty well. At any rate I have no desire to part with mine. Especially the newer of my 2 M.G.'s and one I made an exceptional buy on due to the economic impact of the pandemic and the sellers wife hopefully winning against cancer but I never come across Moto Guzzi's offered at bargain basement prices. The $2,800 I paid for my 5,700 mile 03 California Stone is the lowest by far I have seen. So I bought it with no time wasted.
I would. Generally they are pretty solid, I never had any major issues with mine and you can find them second hand cheaper than some of their competition
V7II Stone owner here. The MGCT (circle with the triangle) light comes on when there’s issues with the engine/ power transmission. It shouldn’t be a problem unless the bike starts revving and accelerating slower than usual. It’s something I’ve experienced a few times with my own bike, sometimes it goes away but if it doesn’t or gets worse you should see your dealer. That actually the reason my V7 is at the garage atm... usually it’s an easy cheap fix, so don’t get too worried about it! My tip: Try Pirelli Sport Demons, at least the back wheel. Those are stickier and softer than the originals and I absolutely adore them! It will also help with the handling in wet conditions.
Thanks Charlotte, I'm glad to have an explanation for the light, really appreciate that. And I'm happier still to hear that it's potentially not that expensive. It's very rare that it happens but I'll keep an eye on it.
Tyres tip - Michelin Pilot Road (latest version just called Road) High silica content = great wet grip. Read the reviews. Apparently the new Metzler is similarly good. [Think you've grasped this, cos you mention your Griso is wearing Michelins on the other review - but for everybody else..]
Michelin pilots are generally my favourite too. They didn't make them in the right size for this when I was looking though. Settled for Continentals in the end.
I had a 2000 Moto Guzzi Centauro. Beautiful bike. Some days it ran really well. Other days it bucked, snorted and complained every mile. Very stereotypical Italian machine.
I much prefer the untreated cooling fins on the II and the chrome exhaust instead of the matte blacke. Speaking of exhausts - didn't sound like it can be stock? Are those Mistrals?
Second this ☝️and it would go down well to do a vid on all the mods you’ve done. Think I spotted a tail tidy and a nice model from lsl handlebar range.
Agree with that completely. I like the cleaner looking engine and dual clocks. And well spotted they are Mistrals, the bike caught my eye but the exhaust caught my wallet because that's the reason I bought this one.
I've only ever owned one bike with spoke wheels. I think if I ever have another one it's going to be a fair weather bike because I hated cleaning them too. Shame they look so good.
Good review thanks. I was quite excited about this bike but your comment about handling in the wet is putting me off. As you say, the tyres will be a big factor, but is there something else inherent in its design that would cause this? I want a 2nd bike for daily riding and I live in northern Scotland where it's very often wet, damp, rain, sleet, snow etc. Would be interested to get your (or other commenters) thoughts. Cheers
The tyres made a huge difference actually it's just that the choice is limited because of the wheel size. Can't fully explain I just had a few trips in the damp on the stock tyres I think they were sport demons and I didn't feel confident of them. Otherwise though it's such a good bike.
Hello mate. I'm switching the side plates from the original plástica ones to the aluminum ones that you have also. I'm struggling to change the left one. I didn't get how to take it out. The right one is already out and the new one is in place. Can you or someone help me explaining how to take out the left one? Thanks.
I'm not sure if I can remember exactly how I did it to be honest, it's pretty fiddly because of the seat lock on that side. You've got to detach the cable and take a lot of it apart to get it off. If you're really struggling you might have to message Baak motorcycles and ask them to help as it's their product.
Yes. It can be the first, last and maybe only bike one need ever own. Of course the possibility exists that in time one may want an 1100 or even 1400 for touring.
Torque on the V7 II is 60Nm down at 2800rpm, on the V7 III same torque but now up at 4000rpm. Horsepower of the V7 II depends what you read. Guzzi didn't publish numbers and the compression ratio seems to vary by world region; 9.8, 10.4, 10.5, 10.8? Is it 48bhp? We know the V7 I was 48bhp and the V7 I got another 2 horses, elsewhere we read 55bhp. Is it A2? They reckon it's 35kW, probably not. Power is given at 6200 or 6250 (which spec sheet again) but it will happily rev beyond that pulling hard to the limiter. Steering angle is 27°50' much the same as a sports bike. Does it need harder suspension, it corners like a cat on rails, all Guzzi do that, go figure. It lifts the front at high speed? All bikes do that, lean forwards and put some weight on the bars. Brembo have been making Guzzi brakes since Brembo started making brakes. The ones on this one are very sophisticated.
@Stamatis Synodinos - Nice. that shows the long linear power band but the numbers shown are (wheel) whp not bhp; bhp is always crank by definition. Add about 15% to that for bhp (10% to 20% is ballpark). The gearbox converts torque, so the power varies too. My V7ii has 10.4 compression or so the book says. Elsewhere we read 9.6:1. This may be for fuel in different world market locations; this will affect power output.
Just traded a CB650R for a V7 III Stone a week ago and could not be happier. The Honda is an amazing bike, but this one certainly lets me enjoy riding and the ride itself a lot more and I couldn't get over it since I test drove one. I guess going from A to B too fast, can actually happen and it did on the Honda. I would've liked to have kept both, but if keeping only one... Guzzi, any day. What exhaust's are those? Zard's? They sound amazing. Also, does that windscreen help in the endless battle against air resistance or is it more for looks? Enjoy your bike!
Same as you if I could only have one bike this would be a close contender, to the point that I'm not sure if I'll ever sell it. The exhausts are Mistral, they are the best sounding aftermarkets you can get for one of these in my opinion. And the Fly screen is purely for looks. I'd love to say that it helps with wind but I'd be lying. You can get a bigger one though if you are going touring on it I'd contemplate sticking one on just for the trip. I'm editing another video to list all the mods by the way which should be up soon.
@@RarefiedRoad Yeah, I reckon a short, efficient windscreen only comes paired up with a unicorn. A video with mod list would be great, I'll be waiting! Thanks.
Lovely! Are those mudguards standard? I'm looking for similar ones to change the looks a bit. I have a 2008 V7 i found in a garage and bought as a non runner (only needed a battery and the 5 year old fuel draining out!). I now ride it more than my bloody Fireblade!
A British guy talking about Italian electronics being flaky gave me a chuckle. I've owned a Land Rover...
Lucas...LOL
1951 MG TD would not start if there was an overnight dew...Lucas. 👎
And I ‘ve owned a Triumph ! Between issue with the transmission and the electronics … lol
Lucas, the prince of darkness.
I have a Jaguar which has Italian electronics and reliability is......
...absolutely fine surprisingly
I've been looking around for my first bike and just last night I came across the V7 and I instantly fell in love.
You neglected to mention that it's gorgeous.
Reg Natarajan big point right here.
Oh it was implied, I love looking at this thing.
Cool review bro ! Would you recommend it as a first bike in A2 ?
Reg Natarajan its Italian how could it not be.
@@bngr_bngr like Fiat Multipla for example😁
Hello son, good of you to keep in touch, so pleased that your suspension is awesome, hope to hear from you again soon 😂
I owned Harley for 20 years, until I tried a Moto Guzzi V7, and realized that I had wasted a lot of time before enjoying riding anywhere.
Thanks for sharing your story. Regards
@Back2Bay6 I love my new Kawasaki W800 Street but, before that I owned a Harley touring bike for 10 years and 85,000km. I loved that bike and can't say anything really bad about it other than it was damn heavy. The heaviness makes it incredibly stable and comfortable on the highway mind you. Cruising along at highway speeds in 6th gear is a magic carpet ride. I'm loving the character and maneuverability of my W800, but then, it's not really meant as a touring bike like my beloved red Harley.
@@dougfielding8215 what harley was?
WOW !!!
Bought (ordered) a 2022 V7 Special today. 5 month wait.
(OZ - Australia)
I've had Harleys for twenty + years. No issues. Also a few Guzzi. Just a few relay failures but otherwise fine. Horses for courses.
One of the best no bullshit reviews ever
It's not retro. Retro is modern but deliberately styled to make it look old. This is just the basic way that Guzzis have looked for years. It's not harking back; it's a natural evolution of an existing look. You could say the version with wire wheels and clip ons is retro, I suppose. For comparison, when John Bloor bought Triumph, he tried to get away from the old Triumph look, made all those excellent modular-engined modern-looking bikes, to establish the brand and THEN started making ones styled to look a bit like the old Bonnies and cash in on the heritage. That is retro - which doesn't stop the Triumphs from being good bikes, by the way. That aside, any bike is either good to ride or not. The V7 is good to ride. I'm on my 2nd (the first was stolen) and I've used it for everything from a 40 mile round trip commute, in all weathers, to 200 mile day trips, and 2 up camping trips. It will exceed the highest speed limit in the country by 40%, it is economical to ride, will out accelerate anything but a sports car or sports bike, and it is comfortable, reliable, and a joy to ride.
Guzzi style is abit like Porsche 911 style, but les monotonous
It's a wonderful machine& I want one ASAP despite what idiot rarefied road bloke says
Moto guzzi is timeles &classy 911 is hrrible monotony
The Italians do know how to design a bike that looks good.
I rarely comment, but, Excellent review! Oozes honesty. And coolness. And it sounds like it comes out of the mouth of a true biker. Cheers, man!
Very kind, thanks Giorgos. Ride safe
I’ve had the same bike but the Racer version for 2 years. No issues at all other than dealership is 4 hours away. The red frame and chrome tank make my heart flutter. The sound makes my blood flow ever so much quicker.
The Raver is a pretty bike. Really nice sound straight out of the shop.
I am an owner of a 2009 V7 Classic.. Love the motorcycle and completely agree with this reviewer.
I am also in agreement with Andrew (below) that this is one of the best motorcycle review presentation.
Thanks David, it's an easy bike to put mileage on, I'm just trying to keep it as clean as I can for as long as I can.
One of the best reviews on a beautiful Moto Guzzi, been obsessed with them yet never owned one. No dealership anywhere near me and well the dry clutch (use the friction zone).
Cheers
Thanks Andrew, sorry you haven't got a dealer near you but I'll be posting a lot more videos on it in the future so believe me you'll feel like you own one by the end
I agree, Andrew, Rarified was clear in describing the pros and cons. One point was kept clear of another. Keep those hopes alive you one day own one, because as the reviewer said ,overall this is a bike that you can live with in a relaxed way,and that doesn't have to live up to a lot of hype. A reviewer of the V7 111 Stone, went abroad on it and did nearly 300 miles one day- BMW plus fairing territory!. For me that just about sums up the fun and comfort of riding the modern Guzzis
PS Poor handling in wet is down to the tyres. Rarefied ws too diplomtic to say it, but ditch the original tyres as soon as poss. Bridgestones are a good replacement but read 80;8 photography and design's recommendation in his reviews
I frankly have no idea where the nearest Moto Guzzi dealer is in comparison to where I live but I sure am glad that I banished all those totally rational fears before I bought the lightly used '03 Cali Stone 1100 that I picked up north of Seattle approx. 90 days ago. Great ride home 175 miles back South to my place. I wanted a Griso but this was a desperate private party who had just bumped his ad down from $3,500 to $2,800. Needless to say I pounced. So glad I did because it surpasses every expectation I had of them. I also have owned a 1976 V 1000 I convert for half a dozen years with 55,000 miles that I am sort of "resto modding". Total comprehensive brake system rebuild. Ported the heads and lapped in the valves. Tearing into the dual range gearbox to solve the dilemma of why it won't go into either range. Having a peek into the engine and how little wear was evident sold me on the brand. So much so that I yearned for another M.G. and this Cali. Stone had caught my eye with it's low miles and asking price. Best $2,800 I ever spent and OMG! The sound that comes out of those twin stainless LaFranconi's!!! I guess both my M.G.'s are cruisers yet they both are built on the Tonti frame and handle great. My biggest fear is what I have heard about the Nikasil treatment of the cylinders flaking off to some extent on certain bikes. Alas my '76 has iron liners per police spec. and the model conceived to satisfy the desire for An auto trans. that would allow for simplified riding and must make for the best funeral escort bike ever. Relatively simple bikes with great engineering, handling and power which I actually find more than adequate. Yeah, I'm glad I stuck to my convictions and bought another Moto Guzzi. If it continues to run as it has since I bought it then I will have the luxury of not being overly concerned about the big gaps in the dealer network.
I live smack bang in the middle of Japan and own one. It upsets the nationals. Lmao
They secretly love it I'm sure
The first minute of this review might be the best motorcycle review EVER on the internet.
Seriously. You just answered all the questions of your viewers, in a sweet and succinct way.
I have recently bought a V7 STONE II myself (my first every motorbike after passing my test), and your review was a factor in me going with this bike, so thanks for that.
In regards to the electrical smell - in my excitement to receive delivery of the bike, I did something I never normally do and read the PDF manual - in the manual it states that the dry clutch used on the bike can produce an electrical smell in use and its nothing to worry about?!
That would actually make sense. Nothing ever seemed to break on it after the smell and nothing was smoking so it probably was the dry clutch. Either way it lasted me well.
Hope you enjoy the bike mate, it's a cracking bike to start on.
Rarefied Road - thanks yes seems like the perfect bike for me at the moment - and as you stated in your review it sounds amazing also.
Thanks for your review. Unfortunately I am no longer able to drive/ride due to health issues. The upside is that I enjoy the fact that my son has just bought a new V7 3 Stone with Night pack, and waiting for a screen and centre stand. I had a V50 Guzzi many years ago ( probably the first in Wales, at least South Wales) and loved the bike. I’ve just subscribed and lol forward to more videos. Regards, Bob M, South Wales
Thanks Bob, sorry to hear that you're off the road but I'm sure your son is representing you well on those twisty welsh roads. Thanks for subscribing, I'll do my best not to disappoint.
To all the people who say "retro bikes are for posers":
No, it's for me as an owner to love looking at. It's the bike that poses for me. I don't pose with it, I ride the thing.
Same reason I enjoy having a hot girlfriend.
I agree .
To me retro bikes look like a bike should.
Some of the more modern bikes with pointy light noses, and other angular bits, just look plain ugly.
Some of the sports bikes, I'm thinking Ducati Panigale look good, but I haven't got the money, don't want the riding position giving me an aching neck and wrists, and this side of doing track days I can't see why I'd want one. 200BHP on the road is just insane, I guess don't twist the throttle too much, but then what's the point ?
(yes there are some supersport 600cc class machines that are not quite so insane, but there's still the riding position.)
So a modern take on retro roadster does it for me . I like modern brakes, traction control, ABS, oil tight seals and not breaking down every 100 miles. (Maybe I'll have a classic to "fettle" one day , but it wouldn't be my only bike )
Sounds reasonable to me. This is the response I'll give next time someone tells me I'm a poser for having it.
@@RarefiedRoad It could be argued people on "Rat" bikes are posing, just in a different way ! But that's not my kind of thing .
What will last longer, the bike or the girlfriend?
@@killingtime8612 Well there are plenty of bikes still running from the 1950s and earlier that have outlasted their original owners :-D
I just got mine, a '14 V7 Stone. Less than 9600mi on it and it is a really fun bike! Last bike before this one was an '85 Honda Nighthawk 450 so this is quite an upgrade!
Lovely review. As an owner of the dark Carbon 2018, I must say so far - touch wood, no electronics or otherwise any issues. What I love about this bike is exactly as you put it, not too fast, not too slow neither, gives you a relax ride, and not to mention the turning point is massive, perfect for commute and filtering. I Put Mistral pipes and the sweet sound of heaven comes out with a cheeky boost in torque.
My understanding is that in 2017 Piaggio took over QA on Motto Guzzi and the overall reliability has gone up a great deal.
May I ask Please, WHERE did you purchase the 'Mistral pipes'?
And WHAT country are you in?
Thank You and regards.
(Melbourne, Victoria, 'OZ', - Australia)
@@tpv59 Mistral is in Italy. I got my sales rep to order me one and delivered to them and installed in their workshop in London, UK.
@@coolatzo
THANK YOU Farshad, GREATLY APPRECIATED.
I will make enquiries on Monday at the Guzzi dealership 'spare parts'.
They should be able to get it here to 'OZ'.
Thanks again.
- Hav a gd 1.
I had a Moto Guzzi Le Mans for 35 years. I used it as my ride to work bike, and drove it all over UK & Europe. I added a 1200 Sport to my "stable" in 2007 for daily use, but it was written off in an accident the same year. I can now only ride automatic bikes with modified controls, so I had to part with the Le Mans - which broke my heart. I still have and love one Moto Guzzi - a 1978 I-Convert (side car outfit), and I also have a Honda NC750X DCT (solo) which is a delight to ride, but I just drool at the sight and sound of these new V7's!! They are just the dog's bollocks!
Sorry to hear that, glad you're still able to get out on a set of wheels but I hope your Le Mans is still being enjoyed somewhere
@@RarefiedRoad Bart Crawels of The Motorcycle Factory took it off my hands. There's a Le Mans, now on Belgian plates, giving somebody a big smile.
VERY SORRY to hear of your accident.
Old Guzzi owner here, had a T3 back in the 80's, very reliable and sounded gorgeous with Lafranconi pipes. I love the fact they have kept their heritage with the same air cooled V twin motor and the 'add ons' only make your V7 even better. Thinking I should sell my Beema and get a Guzzi again. Thanks for the excellent video.
That’s exactly what I’m doing selling my /6 and getting a Guzzi
I own a 2016 Motto Guzzi Stone and I love it. Most likely will never get rid of it. I also own a 2015 Harley Super Low 1200T that I also love. The Motto Guzzi when I ride it takes me back to the 1970's. Great bike for what it is and what it represents. just replaced the tires on the MG V7II due to excessive riding ;-)
Brilliant. I test rode a V7iii, couldn't agree more with your summary of the V7, most importantly, how it's not in competition and allows you to enjoy a ride, planning and thinking about what you are doing, instead of relying on the bike to sort out your riding shortcomings. Thanks.
I found the V7 very easy to ride, not one you have to overthink. You can enjoy the ride and the scenery more.
I bought a V7 II because it was cheaper used, and because it has a much longer power band than the V7 III. The 3 seemed to need the gears shifted more often; riding in town needed a lower gear. And two clocks.
That is the thing I like most about it, it makes me appreciate the ride a bit more than some other bikes that I've ridden. And I get off it at the other end feeling a little more calm.
best V7 review I've seen.
Thanks
My 86 Lemans has been rock solid and reliable.
Beautiful bike
One of most beautiful bikes ever made
As far as Italian bikes, I have owned a ducati 860, moto morini 500 camel, laverda 3cl 1000, cagiva 650, and currently have a 1989 Moto Guzzi Mille GT 1000 and a 2013 Moto Guzzi Stone 750. Have owned several German bikes to include BMW and Zundaps. Grew up with British bikes--meaning Triumph and BSA. Have never been interested in Harley. Owned several Suzuki's to include 2-stroke models and the Wankel rotary 750. The Moto Guzzis have been my favorite above all the rest. Quirky, reliable, tractor-like in that the Japanese "refinement" is not there--but if you love just being connected to machinery and sound--Moto Guzzi!--mike battle
Today, I bought a 2016 V7 II Special with under 500 miles on it for just over half the price of a new 2022 Special. It ran great during the 45 mile ride home on Texas interstates, but I did notice a slight burning smell.
I enjoyed your review, thanks. I have the V7II Racer and I love it. Enough speed for me - 150kph is easy to find, but at risk of losing my licence her in Aust. I've owned over 16 different bikes, including a Moto Guzzi Daytona 1000 and MK V and very happy with this bike. The fuel tank is large and I am getting 20km per litre - happy with that. Racer suspension is good, if set up correctly. I have Agostini mufflers and a revised map and no problems - touch wood. Gorgeous to boot :)
Sounds nice. I'd quite like to attempt some performance upgrades for mine actually now that I've got it looking how I wanted. Does the remapping make it feel much different?
On open road she is needs just a bit of fuel. I ride the V7iii and did 520km with 23,5 lt of fuel 1o days ago. In the city though, I live in Athens she needs more than 50% fuel for the same distance though!
Well done young man |Good review... I think you will always have a soft spot for guzzi's. Once bitten there is no going back.... Live to ride, ride to work...Good luck
Thanks Alan, It's definitely going to stay with me.
Great review, Mate. Shopping for one...
EXCELLENT review.
I APPRECIATE your comments.
10/10.
Enjoyed your insights. I have 40,000+ km on a 2013 V7 Special. Mine handles fine in the rain since I upgraded tyres and suspension.
Whenever something comes off it usually goes back on with non-permanent thread lock... a suggestion built on experience.
What tyres and suspend you get? 😜I'm keen to get a v7iii soon and I've heard other people mentioning the suspension and how good it is after they've changed it.👌🏼
Thank you, I've got a good supply on thread lock from owning an old MT03 so I'll take your suggestion.
My tyres are almost fit for changing now anyway so I think I'll make sure I stick on something a bit better. I'm leaning towards either some Continentals or Bridgestone's.
@@gabriellajaro5326 It's an Italian bike so I went with Mupo suspension. Replaced rear shocks, changed fork springs (rated to my weight) and added an emulator kit. A day of tinkering.
@@RarefiedRoad I've had a couple sets of Bridgestone BTX45, Pirelli Sport Demon and Pirelli Scorpion Trail (1). BTX are decent all rounders, Sport D were good but short lived, I'd have another set of the Trails if I could find them.
Nice. I'll have a look at the Mupo springs for price. And I think I'm likely to go Bridgestone for tyres next.
Great video. I like how you answer the stupid questions right up front. I don't care about electronics but I do want it not to leak fluids. Went to see a 2013 V7 this weekend and it had small oil leak. Loved the sound and the quirky feel of the engine's pistons pulling to the side. Never felt that sensation before. I look for bikes that have an addictive quality that transcends specs. The fact that they have been making the same thing for so long is a good sign. I also like the factory, the people that make it, the town it is made in and the pedigree. I also like the character of the engine as it has a personality. Perfection is boring and sterile. This bike has no pretense. Thanks for conveying what it is and what it is not.
Thanks James. It certainly does have an additictive quality, it's the sort of bike I find myself wanting to ride a lot. Some other bikes that I've owned haven't had that effect.
Great review! Getting my Motoguzzi in a few days… excited!
I dont care what people think. The bike looks good and sounds beautifull. Want one.
Actually since owning it I've had nothing but comments about it, I think it was just a few reviews that I'd seen and read that were less than complimentary about the retro scene. It's a brilliant bike to own.
Got one last week. You forgot to mention that it's the most effortlessly beautiful bike on the road.
It does stand out. I love it.
If you're smelling hot electrics there's a good chance it's your rectifier regulator overheating. I dont know about guzzis specifically but that's the part that gets hot and can take quite a bit of cooking before it does completely. Might want to see how hot it is next time you smell the smell.
Sound advice thank you, I'll go investigating next time it happens but it sounds like you might be right.
Great Guzzi review.
Now I have to read all these comments to learn about the burning electrical smell.
But they are beautiful and Italian.
That was a very good review, well done, and enjoyed it too. Good to hear the engine too, nice!
Thanks man
Great review from an owner's point of view. Well done. To the point and .... cheeky too. LOL
i had v7 and sold it after 96,000 klm with no issues mechanicly or electrics and the new owner is still riding it
I can believe that, good to know they last well
that's a better looking guzzi than the recent ones. i had a 600cc, adequate power, great handling, and re-doing the electrics is part of growing up.
Great review! I have a V711 for about a year and a half. I have had no issues with the motorcycle and have been mainly using as a commuter back and forth to work. I just went to North Carolina to ride the tail of the dragon and mountain riding. I noticed the electric smell that you mentioned for the first time. I do not know where it is coming from, but like you said I have had no issues on my trip. I did ride the bike in second and third gear a lot with high revs to get through the elevations. I have had a California sport for 10 years and rode cross country twice and never had that smell. I will try to find out from one of the dealers around me.
Thanks. It's nice to know they can do the mileage, we haven't got as much land over here so I've only been able to take it 500 miles or so. Mine hasn't made the smell in a while so I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it's gone, maybe it was a cable getting hot somewhere and I've moved it when I've been adjusting things. Let me know if you get an answer from the dealer.
I am an older guy, and Moto Guzzi bikes have always been among the most reliable that we had, before the Japanese invasion of two stroke engines. And they always had crappy electrical, as Ducati, but Ducati was not mechanically reliable.
Remember Moto Guzzi made engines for planes too, in the early days. Everybody knows that of BMW, few of Moto Guzzi. The Guzzi remained reliable throughout the years.
The V7 engine will never let you down. They have come a long way from the clonking gear boxes, and they are now almost perfect. A good vibration bike that never lets you down!
Nice review, thanks! I just got a 2019 V7 III Stone "Night Pack" - led head/tail lights. As you didn't say (but implied), this is one of the most beautiful bikes out there! Not just the looks but the sound too. No electronics problems so far, but I do miss the tach! MG charge a silly price for the tach, sadly. I've also heard that the tires are the problem with handling and should be replaced asap.
What an excellently delivered review. Thank you.
What a great simple honest review. Tk u
Best review Ive seen of the V7. entertaining & informative.
Thanks man
Rode a Harley in the US. Meh.
Owned a Honda Shadow here in England. Ok.
Tried a Triumph Bonnie for a bit. Too refined and chain drive (unsuitable for our weather)
Switched it for a Guzzi...
First few months were difficult.
Akin to taming a horse.
The beauty of the bike is
It becomes yours with time.
And in the end.
You can’t part with it.
I had a 2003 Moto Guzzi Breva 750 IE which was the first of a new generation made at that time by Aprillia. I had no problems with Electronics and it had a lot of miles on the clock, however I did have to renew the battery. I put a motobat battery in it and had no further issues.
Very cool looking bikes, and sounds even better. Cool, man!
I lusted for the v7 for months. Stopped by a Yamaha shop, sat on a 2001 1600 roadstar for half the price and bought it. Of course I still want the v7.
There's always time
Not sure a comparison that includes a nearly 20 year old bike is a ringing endorsement but maybe. I bought a Moto Guzzi California Stone 2003 with 5,700 miles for $2,800 so maybe. An older low mile well kept/stored bike can be among the best value for money spent in the motorcycling world.
I don`t know why I`m rewatching this! I guess my desire for MG V7 is not fading. Recently I got Suzuki VX800 as a stepping stone to V7. Hopefully in 1-2seasons I`ll get V7.
Getting me a V7 Special next week. Excellent video, I enjoyed it.
Very cool! Great review and fun presenting style! I have a 2015 V7 Racer and when you turned on / revved the engine I was like oh yeah, that’s the sound. Top notch!
Moto Guzzi will supply a performance exhaust by Agostini - a whole system if required - Those can's sound very much like the base note's of Agostini and no bad thing at all.
That air of confidence . Inspiring.
I would certainly believe every word you said.
Next Cap America ?
I believe that position is filled. Thanks for the ego boost though.
It has a very fierce sounding exhaust note. Awesome.
Thank you for this. I love the honesty. This helped me realize that I still need some easy don't need to be a mechanic just put fuel in go Japanese bike lol
Love the short rear fender that's a beautiful Moto Guzzi 👍🏼
Awesome straight forward review!
Thanks
Best looking bike on the road..😎
Till you meet a commando or a lemans
Great review dude!
Hello. Your exhaust does sound terrific. Maybe I missed you mentioning it in your video... what brand is is? Mistral?
Nice review once again !
I do like the look, the finish and the sound of this bike. Looks like you could make a trip around the world with this bike, i like it.
Still have troubles with this V engine design but.. keep in mind it's a "bug eyes" speed Triple owner who says that, one of the most controversed design ever :D
Enjoy, have fun and keep up the good work :)
Thank you. I wasn't sure on the styling, but then it grew on me. But then I wasn't sure of the styling on my Street Triple and that grew on me too. Extremely different bikes and enjoyable in very different ways, I guess what I'm trying to say is that all bikes are great and I love them all :)
Thanks for watching.
I’ve wanted one for years, and it’s on my list for finally buying a retro bike, but the electrics scare me. Not to mention depreciation and lack of demand on the used market. But Guzzi is so appealing for the heritage, the brand, and the culture. It’s just wonderfully different compared to other retro bikes from India, England and Japan.
Just buy 2nd hand and the depreciation becomes your friend :)
Agree with that. And I wouldn't worry about selling it afterwards, don't know where you live obviously but mine sold really quickly.
Rarefied Road Southern California. The few Guzzi dealers left have unsold bikes going back as far as 2017 in some cases, with plenty of 2018 and 2019 models still available. Obviously the discounts are tempting, but I might be stuck with it for awhile if I grow tired of it. I’m also still very interested in the RE 650, W800, and Bonneville/Speed Twin. I am biased toward Triumph.
Alex LaJeunesse had the RE650 and really the only gem is the engine and the looks. Can easily tell that the designing and budget went mostly into the engine. Rest of the bike is really on the cheap side, but that’s to be expected for a $5900 bike. For the price, it’s unbeatable. If you really need to get an RE, get a single pumper. That’s where the real character of the bikes lie
In the Pacific NorthWest of the U.S. I find Moto Guzzi generally seem to retain value pretty well. At any rate I have no desire to part with mine. Especially the newer of my 2 M.G.'s and one I made an exceptional buy on due to the economic impact of the pandemic and the sellers wife hopefully winning against cancer but I never come across Moto Guzzi's offered at bargain basement prices. The $2,800 I paid for my 5,700 mile 03 California Stone is the lowest by far I have seen. So I bought it with no time wasted.
Only listened to the first minute and knew this would be a great, funny AF review. Nice one!!! Next stop, get the Moto Guzzi...
Thanks, hope you enjoy the bike
Well, it can cost a big bundle of money if the electronics are not reliable. Thus, is it worth taking the risk to purchase one?
I would. Generally they are pretty solid, I never had any major issues with mine and you can find them second hand cheaper than some of their competition
Really nice bike and good review from you. Enjoy it
Thank you.
V7II Stone owner here.
The MGCT (circle with the triangle) light comes on when there’s issues with the engine/ power transmission. It shouldn’t be a problem unless the bike starts revving and accelerating slower than usual. It’s something I’ve experienced a few times with my own bike, sometimes it goes away but if it doesn’t or gets worse you should see your dealer. That actually the reason my V7 is at the garage atm... usually it’s an easy cheap fix, so don’t get too worried about it!
My tip: Try Pirelli Sport Demons, at least the back wheel. Those are stickier and softer than the originals and I absolutely adore them! It will also help with the handling in wet conditions.
Thanks Charlotte, I'm glad to have an explanation for the light, really appreciate that. And I'm happier still to hear that it's potentially not that expensive. It's very rare that it happens but I'll keep an eye on it.
Tyres tip - Michelin Pilot Road (latest version just called Road)
High silica content = great wet grip. Read the reviews.
Apparently the new Metzler is similarly good.
[Think you've grasped this, cos you mention your Griso is wearing Michelins on the other review -
but for everybody else..]
Michelin pilots are generally my favourite too. They didn't make them in the right size for this when I was looking though. Settled for Continentals in the end.
Looking for the next bike after my sporster and that looks like the top contender.
It's a nice transition from the sportster. They'll blend well together
Cool bike, excellent no BS review!!! Enjoy your Guzzi!!
Thanks man
I have a V11 Bassa. It is 100% reliable. Comfortable and very fast too.
Good bike, just a little bit faster than mine :)
Excellent review, very helpful, very engaging, thanks!
Thank you
I had a 2000 Moto Guzzi Centauro. Beautiful bike. Some days it ran really well. Other days it bucked, snorted and complained every mile. Very stereotypical Italian machine.
I much prefer the untreated cooling fins on the II and the chrome exhaust instead of the matte blacke. Speaking of exhausts - didn't sound like it can be stock? Are those Mistrals?
Second this ☝️and it would go down well to do a vid on all the mods you’ve done. Think I spotted a tail tidy and a nice model from lsl handlebar range.
Agree with that completely. I like the cleaner looking engine and dual clocks. And well spotted they are Mistrals, the bike caught my eye but the exhaust caught my wallet because that's the reason I bought this one.
@@maxneilson5175 Yes to all those things. I'm finishing up an edit listing the mods which I'll put up soon but you pretty much spotted all of them.
@@RarefiedRoad Great shout. They sound gorgeous and look completely classic. I fell in love in Paris once.... With a V7 running Mistrals. Phwoar!
I have a v7 111 and it’s awesome! Only downside is cleaning the spoke wheels🙁
I've only ever owned one bike with spoke wheels. I think if I ever have another one it's going to be a fair weather bike because I hated cleaning them too. Shame they look so good.
Love spokes
You should check out the sc project exhaust for the v7. Makes it sound much bigger than it is.
I will have a look
''sc exhaust''???? Please explain.
Thank You.
SORRY, ''sc project''. SORRY.
Good review thanks. I was quite excited about this bike but your comment about handling in the wet is putting me off. As you say, the tyres will be a big factor, but is there something else inherent in its design that would cause this? I want a 2nd bike for daily riding and I live in northern Scotland where it's very often wet, damp, rain, sleet, snow etc. Would be interested to get your (or other commenters) thoughts. Cheers
The tyres made a huge difference actually it's just that the choice is limited because of the wheel size. Can't fully explain I just had a few trips in the damp on the stock tyres I think they were sport demons and I didn't feel confident of them. Otherwise though it's such a good bike.
@@RarefiedRoad I bought a 2015 V7ii Special. Being delivered later this week :)
great vid! what slip ons do you have on it?
Very nice review. Thank you !
Very good presentation, enjoyed watching, thanks.
Thank you
Another great review! Just great. Thanx J/Sweden
Thank you
Love the review and your accent--and the comment about "POSER" "What of it." I have the 2017 V7 III Stone (Giallo Energetico Tank)
Thanks. I'd go for the stone if I was getting a new one, allows for some nice customisation.
Thanks for the no BS review.
I’m a bit late but that was really good, couldn’t have said it better myself!
Looks & sounds gorgeous. Stock pipes?
Hello mate. I'm switching the side plates from the original plástica ones to the aluminum ones that you have also. I'm struggling to change the left one. I didn't get how to take it out. The right one is already out and the new one is in place. Can you or someone help me explaining how to take out the left one? Thanks.
I'm not sure if I can remember exactly how I did it to be honest, it's pretty fiddly because of the seat lock on that side. You've got to detach the cable and take a lot of it apart to get it off. If you're really struggling you might have to message Baak motorcycles and ask them to help as it's their product.
@@RarefiedRoad Yeah it's a real pain in the ass but i manage to do it. One took only 5 minutes the other 30 lol. Thank you for your reply.
Standard pipes? Sounds great.
I think its a Mistral Exhaust
Great to the point review. That is a great sound. Are those pipes stock?
Would you recommend this bike for a new rider
Deffinitely
Yes. It can be the first, last and maybe only bike one need ever own. Of course the possibility exists that in time one may want an 1100 or even 1400 for touring.
Torque on the V7 II is 60Nm down at 2800rpm, on the V7 III same torque but now up at 4000rpm.
Horsepower of the V7 II depends what you read. Guzzi didn't publish numbers and the compression ratio seems to vary by world region; 9.8, 10.4, 10.5, 10.8? Is it 48bhp? We know the V7 I was 48bhp and the V7 I got another 2 horses, elsewhere we read 55bhp. Is it A2? They reckon it's 35kW, probably not.
Power is given at 6200 or 6250 (which spec sheet again) but it will happily rev beyond that pulling hard to the limiter.
Steering angle is 27°50' much the same as a sports bike. Does it need harder suspension, it corners like a cat on rails, all Guzzi do that, go figure.
It lifts the front at high speed? All bikes do that, lean forwards and put some weight on the bars.
Brembo have been making Guzzi brakes since Brembo started making brakes. The ones on this one are very sophisticated.
@Stamatis Synodinos - Nice. that shows the long linear power band but the numbers shown are (wheel) whp not bhp; bhp is always crank by definition. Add about 15% to that for bhp (10% to 20% is ballpark). The gearbox converts torque, so the power varies too. My V7ii has 10.4 compression or so the book says. Elsewhere we read 9.6:1. This may be for fuel in different world market locations; this will affect power output.
Owned 3 v7s, slow,slow, slow, great review, spot on, fuel injection is terribly notchy and jumpy
Nice review. Looks and sounds great.
Very informative video thank you ! is that stock exhaust? Cheers Allan USA
They're aftermarket. Mistral I believe, they sound even better in person.
Just traded a CB650R for a V7 III Stone a week ago and could not be happier. The Honda is an amazing bike, but this one certainly lets me enjoy riding and the ride itself a lot more and I couldn't get over it since I test drove one. I guess going from A to B too fast, can actually happen and it did on the Honda. I would've liked to have kept both, but if keeping only one... Guzzi, any day.
What exhaust's are those? Zard's? They sound amazing. Also, does that windscreen help in the endless battle against air resistance or is it more for looks? Enjoy your bike!
Same as you if I could only have one bike this would be a close contender, to the point that I'm not sure if I'll ever sell it.
The exhausts are Mistral, they are the best sounding aftermarkets you can get for one of these in my opinion. And the Fly screen is purely for looks. I'd love to say that it helps with wind but I'd be lying. You can get a bigger one though if you are going touring on it I'd contemplate sticking one on just for the trip.
I'm editing another video to list all the mods by the way which should be up soon.
@@RarefiedRoad Yeah, I reckon a short, efficient windscreen only comes paired up with a unicorn. A video with mod list would be great, I'll be waiting! Thanks.
Lovely! Are those mudguards standard? I'm looking for similar ones to change the looks a bit. I have a 2008 V7 i found in a garage and bought as a non runner (only needed a battery and the 5 year old fuel draining out!). I now ride it more than my bloody Fireblade!
I got these from motone and had to modify them to fit, there's a company called BAAK that make some very similar ones for this bike.
@@RarefiedRoad thanks mate 👍
Oh That sound man, what exhaust do you have fitted in? Do you have a DB killers in? I presume not . Cheers
It should be a mistral exhaust