2016 Moto Guzzi V7 | Owners Review
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- It took me a long time to fall for the stylish charm of Moto Guzzi. But after 5 years of riding and some 50 bikes ridden they finally caught my eye, or probably more accurately my ear judging by the sound of this one.
Out of all the bikes I've ridden I think It's is the closest I'd say I've come to 'loving' any of them. This one's here to stay.
It's not without its little teething problems though, namely the brake reservoir. If your V7 II has the same problem mine had then I'd recommend changing the pump cover like I did for the one on from the original V7.
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I am an older guy, and Moto Guzzi bikes have always been among the most reliable that we had, before the Japanese invasion of two stroke engines. And they always had crappy electrical, as Ducati, but Ducati was not mechanically reliable.
Remember Moto Guzzi made engines for planes too, in the early days. Everybody knows that of BMW, few of Moto Guzzi. The Guzzi remained reliable throughout the years.
The V7 engine will never let you down. They have come a long way from the clonking gear boxes, and they are now almost perfect. A good vibration bike that never lets you down!
I am an owner of a 2009 V7 Classic.. Love the motorcycle and completely agree with this reviewer.
I am also in agreement with Andrew (below) that this is one of the best motorcycle review presentation.
Thanks David, it's an easy bike to put mileage on, I'm just trying to keep it as clean as I can for as long as I can.
A British guy talking about Italian electronics being flaky gave me a chuckle. I've owned a Land Rover...
Lucas...LOL
1951 MG TD would not start if there was an overnight dew...Lucas. 👎
And I ‘ve owned a Triumph ! Between issue with the transmission and the electronics … lol
Lucas, the prince of darkness.
I have a Jaguar which has Italian electronics and reliability is......
...absolutely fine surprisingly
I’ve had the same bike but the Racer version for 2 years. No issues at all other than dealership is 4 hours away. The red frame and chrome tank make my heart flutter. The sound makes my blood flow ever so much quicker.
The Raver is a pretty bike. Really nice sound straight out of the shop.
I just got mine, a '14 V7 Stone. Less than 9600mi on it and it is a really fun bike! Last bike before this one was an '85 Honda Nighthawk 450 so this is quite an upgrade!
I had a Moto Guzzi Le Mans for 35 years. I used it as my ride to work bike, and drove it all over UK & Europe. I added a 1200 Sport to my "stable" in 2007 for daily use, but it was written off in an accident the same year. I can now only ride automatic bikes with modified controls, so I had to part with the Le Mans - which broke my heart. I still have and love one Moto Guzzi - a 1978 I-Convert (side car outfit), and I also have a Honda NC750X DCT (solo) which is a delight to ride, but I just drool at the sight and sound of these new V7's!! They are just the dog's bollocks!
Sorry to hear that, glad you're still able to get out on a set of wheels but I hope your Le Mans is still being enjoyed somewhere
@@RarefiedRoad Bart Crawels of The Motorcycle Factory took it off my hands. There's a Le Mans, now on Belgian plates, giving somebody a big smile.
VERY SORRY to hear of your accident.
I enjoyed your review, thanks. I have the V7II Racer and I love it. Enough speed for me - 150kph is easy to find, but at risk of losing my licence her in Aust. I've owned over 16 different bikes, including a Moto Guzzi Daytona 1000 and MK V and very happy with this bike. The fuel tank is large and I am getting 20km per litre - happy with that. Racer suspension is good, if set up correctly. I have Agostini mufflers and a revised map and no problems - touch wood. Gorgeous to boot :)
Sounds nice. I'd quite like to attempt some performance upgrades for mine actually now that I've got it looking how I wanted. Does the remapping make it feel much different?
On open road she is needs just a bit of fuel. I ride the V7iii and did 520km with 23,5 lt of fuel 1o days ago. In the city though, I live in Athens she needs more than 50% fuel for the same distance though!
Enjoyed your insights. I have 40,000+ km on a 2013 V7 Special. Mine handles fine in the rain since I upgraded tyres and suspension.
Whenever something comes off it usually goes back on with non-permanent thread lock... a suggestion built on experience.
What tyres and suspend you get? 😜I'm keen to get a v7iii soon and I've heard other people mentioning the suspension and how good it is after they've changed it.👌🏼
Thank you, I've got a good supply on thread lock from owning an old MT03 so I'll take your suggestion.
My tyres are almost fit for changing now anyway so I think I'll make sure I stick on something a bit better. I'm leaning towards either some Continentals or Bridgestone's.
@@gabriellajaro5326 It's an Italian bike so I went with Mupo suspension. Replaced rear shocks, changed fork springs (rated to my weight) and added an emulator kit. A day of tinkering.
@@RarefiedRoad I've had a couple sets of Bridgestone BTX45, Pirelli Sport Demon and Pirelli Scorpion Trail (1). BTX are decent all rounders, Sport D were good but short lived, I'd have another set of the Trails if I could find them.
Nice. I'll have a look at the Mupo springs for price. And I think I'm likely to go Bridgestone for tyres next.
I dont care what people think. The bike looks good and sounds beautifull. Want one.
Actually since owning it I've had nothing but comments about it, I think it was just a few reviews that I'd seen and read that were less than complimentary about the retro scene. It's a brilliant bike to own.
Rode a Harley in the US. Meh.
Owned a Honda Shadow here in England. Ok.
Tried a Triumph Bonnie for a bit. Too refined and chain drive (unsuitable for our weather)
Switched it for a Guzzi...
First few months were difficult.
Akin to taming a horse.
The beauty of the bike is
It becomes yours with time.
And in the end.
You can’t part with it.
Great Guzzi review.
Now I have to read all these comments to learn about the burning electrical smell.
But they are beautiful and Italian.
To all the people who say "retro bikes are for posers":
No, it's for me as an owner to love looking at. It's the bike that poses for me. I don't pose with it, I ride the thing.
Same reason I enjoy having a hot girlfriend.
I agree .
To me retro bikes look like a bike should.
Some of the more modern bikes with pointy light noses, and other angular bits, just look plain ugly.
Some of the sports bikes, I'm thinking Ducati Panigale look good, but I haven't got the money, don't want the riding position giving me an aching neck and wrists, and this side of doing track days I can't see why I'd want one. 200BHP on the road is just insane, I guess don't twist the throttle too much, but then what's the point ?
(yes there are some supersport 600cc class machines that are not quite so insane, but there's still the riding position.)
So a modern take on retro roadster does it for me . I like modern brakes, traction control, ABS, oil tight seals and not breaking down every 100 miles. (Maybe I'll have a classic to "fettle" one day , but it wouldn't be my only bike )
Sounds reasonable to me. This is the response I'll give next time someone tells me I'm a poser for having it.
@@RarefiedRoad It could be argued people on "Rat" bikes are posing, just in a different way ! But that's not my kind of thing .
What will last longer, the bike or the girlfriend?
@@killingtime8612 Well there are plenty of bikes still running from the 1950s and earlier that have outlasted their original owners :-D
Nice review, thanks! I just got a 2019 V7 III Stone "Night Pack" - led head/tail lights. As you didn't say (but implied), this is one of the most beautiful bikes out there! Not just the looks but the sound too. No electronics problems so far, but I do miss the tach! MG charge a silly price for the tach, sadly. I've also heard that the tires are the problem with handling and should be replaced asap.
Best looking bike on the road..😎
Till you meet a commando or a lemans
EXCELLENT review.
I APPRECIATE your comments.
10/10.
Very cool! Great review and fun presenting style! I have a 2015 V7 Racer and when you turned on / revved the engine I was like oh yeah, that’s the sound. Top notch!
I don`t know why I`m rewatching this! I guess my desire for MG V7 is not fading. Recently I got Suzuki VX800 as a stepping stone to V7. Hopefully in 1-2seasons I`ll get V7.
That air of confidence . Inspiring.
I would certainly believe every word you said.
Next Cap America ?
I believe that position is filled. Thanks for the ego boost though.
V7II Stone owner here.
The MGCT (circle with the triangle) light comes on when there’s issues with the engine/ power transmission. It shouldn’t be a problem unless the bike starts revving and accelerating slower than usual. It’s something I’ve experienced a few times with my own bike, sometimes it goes away but if it doesn’t or gets worse you should see your dealer. That actually the reason my V7 is at the garage atm... usually it’s an easy cheap fix, so don’t get too worried about it!
My tip: Try Pirelli Sport Demons, at least the back wheel. Those are stickier and softer than the originals and I absolutely adore them! It will also help with the handling in wet conditions.
Thanks Charlotte, I'm glad to have an explanation for the light, really appreciate that. And I'm happier still to hear that it's potentially not that expensive. It's very rare that it happens but I'll keep an eye on it.
Best review Ive seen of the V7. entertaining & informative.
Thanks man
Great review! I have a V711 for about a year and a half. I have had no issues with the motorcycle and have been mainly using as a commuter back and forth to work. I just went to North Carolina to ride the tail of the dragon and mountain riding. I noticed the electric smell that you mentioned for the first time. I do not know where it is coming from, but like you said I have had no issues on my trip. I did ride the bike in second and third gear a lot with high revs to get through the elevations. I have had a California sport for 10 years and rode cross country twice and never had that smell. I will try to find out from one of the dealers around me.
Thanks. It's nice to know they can do the mileage, we haven't got as much land over here so I've only been able to take it 500 miles or so. Mine hasn't made the smell in a while so I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it's gone, maybe it was a cable getting hot somewhere and I've moved it when I've been adjusting things. Let me know if you get an answer from the dealer.
Only listened to the first minute and knew this would be a great, funny AF review. Nice one!!! Next stop, get the Moto Guzzi...
Thanks, hope you enjoy the bike
I’ve wanted one for years, and it’s on my list for finally buying a retro bike, but the electrics scare me. Not to mention depreciation and lack of demand on the used market. But Guzzi is so appealing for the heritage, the brand, and the culture. It’s just wonderfully different compared to other retro bikes from India, England and Japan.
Just buy 2nd hand and the depreciation becomes your friend :)
Agree with that. And I wouldn't worry about selling it afterwards, don't know where you live obviously but mine sold really quickly.
Rarefied Road Southern California. The few Guzzi dealers left have unsold bikes going back as far as 2017 in some cases, with plenty of 2018 and 2019 models still available. Obviously the discounts are tempting, but I might be stuck with it for awhile if I grow tired of it. I’m also still very interested in the RE 650, W800, and Bonneville/Speed Twin. I am biased toward Triumph.
Alex LaJeunesse had the RE650 and really the only gem is the engine and the looks. Can easily tell that the designing and budget went mostly into the engine. Rest of the bike is really on the cheap side, but that’s to be expected for a $5900 bike. For the price, it’s unbeatable. If you really need to get an RE, get a single pumper. That’s where the real character of the bikes lie
In the Pacific NorthWest of the U.S. I find Moto Guzzi generally seem to retain value pretty well. At any rate I have no desire to part with mine. Especially the newer of my 2 M.G.'s and one I made an exceptional buy on due to the economic impact of the pandemic and the sellers wife hopefully winning against cancer but I never come across Moto Guzzi's offered at bargain basement prices. The $2,800 I paid for my 5,700 mile 03 California Stone is the lowest by far I have seen. So I bought it with no time wasted.
Getting me a V7 Special next week. Excellent video, I enjoyed it.
I lusted for the v7 for months. Stopped by a Yamaha shop, sat on a 2001 1600 roadstar for half the price and bought it. Of course I still want the v7.
There's always time
Not sure a comparison that includes a nearly 20 year old bike is a ringing endorsement but maybe. I bought a Moto Guzzi California Stone 2003 with 5,700 miles for $2,800 so maybe. An older low mile well kept/stored bike can be among the best value for money spent in the motorcycling world.
Love the review and your accent--and the comment about "POSER" "What of it." I have the 2017 V7 III Stone (Giallo Energetico Tank)
Thanks. I'd go for the stone if I was getting a new one, allows for some nice customisation.
Tyres tip - Michelin Pilot Road (latest version just called Road)
High silica content = great wet grip. Read the reviews.
Apparently the new Metzler is similarly good.
[Think you've grasped this, cos you mention your Griso is wearing Michelins on the other review -
but for everybody else..]
Michelin pilots are generally my favourite too. They didn't make them in the right size for this when I was looking though. Settled for Continentals in the end.
Thanks for the no BS review.
Excellent review, very helpful, very engaging, thanks!
Thank you
Great review, Mate. Shopping for one...
I have a V11 Bassa. It is 100% reliable. Comfortable and very fast too.
Good bike, just a little bit faster than mine :)
Oh That sound man, what exhaust do you have fitted in? Do you have a DB killers in? I presume not . Cheers
Nice review. Looks and sounds great.
I see you went for it! I guess you bought it with the after market exhaust fitted, and it really sounds great! Clutch lever made my grip more manly indeed! Enjoy the rides!
My grip's just about getting used to it now, I can crush a walnut with my left hand. The pipes were fitted when I bought it, it was the convincer for me, love that exhaust note.
Great overview bud. I love my V7, I have the previous version, and have modified it quite a lot now. I've done a couple of trackdays on it and it is hilarious fun. With aftermarket pipes it sounds amazing. Not had any electrical issues on mine, but mine doesn't have TC or ABS. Touring Europe on mine I did find the clutch would slip when it got hot in town, but other than that it is an awesome bike.
I've heard about the clutch problems actually, keeping my fingers crossed that mine holds up but the weather isn't too hot in the UK so it should be fine. Really interested to find out how it fairs on a track day though. Was it with other classic themed bikes or were you getting lapped by Ninjas and R1's?
@@RarefiedRoad There were all sorts, it was a normal trackday. There was a race that weekend too so all the groups had ACU riders getting practice in too! :D It was hilarious fun! :D I'll put a link to the video if of interest to you below, it might go into your needing approval or suspected spam notifications though as that normally happens when folk share links on comments in my vids....
As a Ducati monster 796 owner I can whole heartedly attest to the leaking master cylinder with the janky diaphragm!
Controversial choice! I love it.
Love a bit of controversy
I do like these, great review, thanks mate.
Wet road? Ditch the Pirelli and fit Avon Roadrider. Better dry too and no following grooves. Better wear and higher rating. Compare chalk and very sticky rubber
Thank for the heads up, I'll check them out
I can not choose between the Harley 883 iron and tis one. I also like the Triumph street twin....
If you like those 3 then this is the happy middle ground. It feels similar to both, not quite a cruiser not quite a cafe racer. It's faster than the Harley and it will go round a corner, but it's softer then the Triumph. In my opinion.
@@RarefiedRoad Thank you!
Triumph has had some gearbox issues of late and have been addressed in a totally unsatisfactory manner IMO and from what I have heard. No personal experience with the "new" Triumph brand but am old enough to have bought a 1973 Trophy Trail 500 new in early '74.
Love it , I have a v-7 version 1
Phenomenal video!
It looks fantastic.
Thanks
Lovely looking bike. I've got a 2012 Mk 1 Stone in Black . I really like the rear light arrangement on yours - is the fender eliminator required or could I retro-fit with the original mudguard? The new Mk4 (850cc) has a lovely circular rear light which I think really befits the look of the bike.
There wasn't a way of fitting the light to the stock fender, it's plastic for a start so it's hard to rework so I just decided to make my own. BAAK do a bolt on version but it's pricey.
Would you recommend this bike for a new rider
Deffinitely
Yes. It can be the first, last and maybe only bike one need ever own. Of course the possibility exists that in time one may want an 1100 or even 1400 for touring.
Lovely! Are those mudguards standard? I'm looking for similar ones to change the looks a bit. I have a 2008 V7 i found in a garage and bought as a non runner (only needed a battery and the 5 year old fuel draining out!). I now ride it more than my bloody Fireblade!
I got these from motone and had to modify them to fit, there's a company called BAAK that make some very similar ones for this bike.
@@RarefiedRoad thanks mate 👍
Gorgeous machine.
Just watching this again. 3:20 High Beach! I used to be a regular. From 1994 to 2011. Do you still own this bike? Has it been reliable?
I sold it at the end of last year but it was pretty reliable. I did have a gasket start to leak on me but it was easily accessed because of the cylinder position. Otherwise I have no complaints.
@@RarefiedRoad That shouldn't have happened, though. Thanks for replying.
Good review thanks. I was quite excited about this bike but your comment about handling in the wet is putting me off. As you say, the tyres will be a big factor, but is there something else inherent in its design that would cause this? I want a 2nd bike for daily riding and I live in northern Scotland where it's very often wet, damp, rain, sleet, snow etc. Would be interested to get your (or other commenters) thoughts. Cheers
The tyres made a huge difference actually it's just that the choice is limited because of the wheel size. Can't fully explain I just had a few trips in the damp on the stock tyres I think they were sport demons and I didn't feel confident of them. Otherwise though it's such a good bike.
@@RarefiedRoad I bought a 2015 V7ii Special. Being delivered later this week :)
How can it be retro if it’s got Traction Control and ABS.
Because they don't work :)
Rarefied Road nice.
It's actually not a retro. It's a classic, and there is a difference. The Bonnie's are retro, with half the visible bits fake.
Just out of curiosity.. how hard could it be to get the wiring and electronic components right on a bike you are selling around the world?
Always enjoy your vids. Does the bike have cats on?
Thanks, I'm not actually sure if it has the cats on but the Mistral's definitely still have the baffles in. I'd like to have a play with it at some point and see if I can get it to breath a little more freely.
@@RarefiedRoad - check the spark plug gaps 0.69mm to 0.71mm and very tight tolerance on the valves, spot-on is right. If the gap is too wider it won't like running high revs, the sparks break down.
If you have any hesitancy, flat spots, check the breather pipes and HT leads.
Don't disconnect the Lambda, it uses those things to start and warm up[ the motor. Guzzi have two 'self-learning' maps, hot and cold; reset by powering down the ECU, disconnecting the main fuse is simplest. The Guzzi ECU can be remapped, there are a couple of places that offer this. Doing so won't transform it into a crotch rocket and will probably push the insurance way up. Do you want to spend a lot of money for another five horses?
If you change the silencers, no-cat, it will be louder but won't actually go any quicker.
Hey Tim...Tim, right?? Anyway, older video but a good reference as I'm looking to buy a V7. Question if you see this. What tires does the v7 run? And, if you've got one with the mag wheels, can you go with radials? I believe the spoked ones need bias ply? AND...are radials really much better in regards to handling road groves, expanded metal surfaces, etc? I live in NYC so these are real questions! Cheers.
Hello, I don't think I can answer in as much detail as you need but I can tell you that the bike originally came with Pirelli Sport Demons which are pretty crap in my opinion. Unfortunately because of the sizes your options are limited but I ended up going for Continental Road Attack 2 which I would recomend actually, decent dry and wet grip and really nice feel. Hope that helps in some way. Fort 9 and revzilla have the most comprehensive run downs on youtube if you need technical knowledge.
@@RarefiedRoad Great, thanks so much. Yeah, I thought you might say that about those Pirellis. I'm a bit spoiled by great sport touring tires like Michelin pilot roads, and have learned that all tires ain't quite the same! Thank you, sir!
Yeah I know what you mean. I really wanted pilots for the V7 but I don't think they make them in the right size so I had to learn a little about what makes a good tyre, hence the Rev Zilla and Fort 9 viewing. Didn't imagine I'd ever get to the stage where I was getting my kicks watching tyre reviews online. Best of luck finding the right set.
Cool review ! Would you recommend it as a first bike (A2) ? I hesitate also between Ducati scrambler (full throttle) and Royal enfield 650 gt, I hope you could help me ^^. Thanks.
All good choices to start with. Ducati would be the quickest but the other two are very similar. I personally prefer the V7 but try all of them.
Rarefied Road Yes this is the best thing to do ^^
TEST ride !!!!!
It IS the ONLY way.
Great looking bike. MIght upgrade to this.
The engine looks like a giant pair of ..... - I can't type that. Lol
It's got a big set on it
Exahust is mistral long?
It is
Nice bike ! Kinda sounds like a Ducati.
Thanks Tim, it definitely has the same Italian roar.
An excellent bike needs to eat miles after miles with zero worries. Shaft drive, excellent, agricultural mechanical reliability and ease of maintenance, excellent. Electronics that might fail? That's a failing grade from me.
Why pay for a Moto Guzzi when a Honda CX500, cx650 from back in the day has a similar engine config, engine note and is electronically reliable? Unfortunately parts scarcity does suck.
Ha ha, I had a CX500 in the 1990's and within 10 days of purchase (used) the water pump impeller stripped on the shaft costing me an engine. Plus the Moto Guzzi is engineered simply with a trans. that is separate from the engine case. I got another engine from a salvage outlet and kept that CX a couple of years but honestly I found it a liquid cooled pale imitation of a Moto Guzzi. With the Honda having sub par handling suspension, comfort, power. Sure, they are popular to revamp into Cafe Racers but they really are hard pressed to do distance rides at the speed limit on interstate highways.
which pipes are those?
Mistrals. Made right down the road from MG in Italy!
Okay, maybe the Guzzi isn't what you call fast but mine runs 132 + and that's fast enough for me and there was an 1)8th of a throttle left.
Are the mirrors optional?
We are a Treguzzi famiglia, I own a Breva 750, my Brother who is younger and better looking than me owns a Tutto Terreno 350, and my Nephew owns a V7 like this, which he constantly points out is far better looking than my Breva, we have toured Europe with them and never found them wanting, often over difficult terrain, at one point I could not keep up with him and enjoyed a spot of off roading, he also travels much lighter than me, and is much much more stylish, I am rather jealous of his fine looking machine, perhaps I will purchase one to keep my Breva company
owned mine for nearly 18 years now, that tells you how good they are, they do have a few faults and vices, but so has Sophia Loren, and I would much rather wake up next to her than that skinny cow kate Moss
Maybe you will ride over ot Mandello next year for the Centenary and meet the Guzzi family ?
Any oil burning issues ?
No mine never had any
I have 2. One with 55,000 miles and the valve guides and cylinder walls look pristine and neither bike consumes any noticeable amount of oil.
I want to see it with a square headlight with a dirtbike shroud
Is it boxer engine just like BMw and how is different from the BMW
It's what they call a transverse V Twin because it's mounted sideways instead of front to back, so it's similar to the BMW's flat twin but not exactly the same. The angle of the cylinders and firing order are the main differences.
Mpg?
How tall are you? How do you find the fit?
I'm 5'10'' and it was pretty comfortable but I would say because it's low down it had less leg room for a long trip.
Not a ringing endorsement, which is good, as it is one less bike I have to long for.
That's great as we Guzzi riders enjoy the brand distinction and relative rarity. Along with the fact that they can be "lifetime" bikes with automotive style engineering and longevity.
I've got the same one (in black) =D
Stock exhaust sounds that good?
These are aftermarket from mistral. Still sounds nice stock but not this nice.
@@RarefiedRoad Just the sound I'm looking for, Thanks!
Would it be a good first bike?
It's a really good first bike.
Good Honest review- no matter what you say someones not going to agree , I got the impression the bikes a bit like a good wife , not perfect ..but the the one I choose because in the end we can accept each others flaws.....ooowh & the sex is still good despite the mileage !
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That would be an accurate summation yes. It's a brilliant set of wheels.
not known for being electricians??? volta was italian last time i checked
Fistful Pennies and Marconi too
Fair point, they're not that commonly interested in plumbing either if I'm honest.
@@RarefiedRoad depend if you do the plumber and go to fix something for a beautiful lady we are truly interested to plumb. 100% guarantee from an italian one, me. :-)
Time to change that rear brake fluid....
Good spot, thank you
Guzzi lost some of their good looks with all the blackout paint. I bought a Royal enfield cuz they look so cool with all the chrome
Ops, Italians aren't electricians? Where did you get this parfume?
Can you motivate why?
I have had bunch of ltalian bikes, Moto Morini, Cagiva, Gilera and always happy wirh those.
So why don't you tell us what did happen to you and your Guzzi so bad to label ALL the Italians like that? I am really curious, being a well-paid successful ltalian engineer working abroad.
Critcism is interesting, and ok, but when motivated by real experience and details, so we can judge and discuss friendly, British, French, Germans, ltalians, also Nigro's if you allow them, without the "they are Italians" thing. Can't we sir? Prejudice against a nation is a bad thing to read. You know.
In general, l recommend here all the ltalian's haters to move to Kawa, Honda, Yamaha bikes. They are not ltalians, but simply gorgeous bikes. Really, l guarantee.
Please Do Not buy "Italy tagged" bikes, so l do not have to read again stupid prejuduces about myself because "They are Italians", and l am ltalian.
I will keep riding my "Italy Tagged" bikes and
I won't care if l will be the only one "Italy Tagged" rider among all the Japan and Germany tagged riders (do not get me wrong l love and l have Japanese bikes).
And l will keep selling with success high tech made in ltaly industrial machinery all over the world. With the permission of "they are ltalians" things.
Thank you.
It was really more of a joke my friend, obviously I like Italian bikes and it's pretty clear from the review that I'm actually encouraging people to buy it so trust me the pride of your nation and 'well-paid' (congratulations) career are not being challenged so relax.
@@RarefiedRoad My friend, please try to understand that l do not give a damn whether you encourage your followers to buy an ltalian bike or not. I do not really care. You may say for examples that MOTO GUZZI's are pieces of shit, poorly made by MOTO GUZZI Co. and everything you want to add about this Company you do not like, if you think it is true and you have evidence. But this has nothing to do with ITALY, ITALIAN TAG or ITALIANS can't do this or that. Because you know nothing about it.
Can you understand that? I think you can.
I had a similar argue with a dumbass who was criticizing the Royal Enfield's saying that they were unreliable and poorly made (untrue, l own one in my collection and it is great) because done by Indians, not real skilled people.
I told him, before criticizing 1 billion people, please criticize your particular bike saying what isn't good, or why had some problems, and why you think that.
Royal Enfield Co. indeed as any company, makes the bikes as the managers decide to, based on their strategies. Nothing to do with THE INDIANS can't make bikes, or Indians work poorly, or INDIAN TAG etc.. .
Thank you for your reply, best regards.
You neglected to mention that it's gorgeous.
Reg Natarajan big point right here.
Oh it was implied, I love looking at this thing.
Cool review bro ! Would you recommend it as a first bike in A2 ?
Reg Natarajan its Italian how could it not be.
@@bngr_bngr like Fiat Multipla for example😁
I owned Harley for 20 years, until I tried a Moto Guzzi V7, and realized that I had wasted a lot of time before enjoying riding anywhere.
Thanks for sharing your story. Regards
@Back2Bay6 I love my new Kawasaki W800 Street but, before that I owned a Harley touring bike for 10 years and 85,000km. I loved that bike and can't say anything really bad about it other than it was damn heavy. The heaviness makes it incredibly stable and comfortable on the highway mind you. Cruising along at highway speeds in 6th gear is a magic carpet ride. I'm loving the character and maneuverability of my W800, but then, it's not really meant as a touring bike like my beloved red Harley.
@@dougfielding8215 what harley was?
WOW !!!
Bought (ordered) a 2022 V7 Special today. 5 month wait.
(OZ - Australia)
I've had Harleys for twenty + years. No issues. Also a few Guzzi. Just a few relay failures but otherwise fine. Horses for courses.
I've been looking around for my first bike and just last night I came across the V7 and I instantly fell in love.
It's not retro. Retro is modern but deliberately styled to make it look old. This is just the basic way that Guzzis have looked for years. It's not harking back; it's a natural evolution of an existing look. You could say the version with wire wheels and clip ons is retro, I suppose. For comparison, when John Bloor bought Triumph, he tried to get away from the old Triumph look, made all those excellent modular-engined modern-looking bikes, to establish the brand and THEN started making ones styled to look a bit like the old Bonnies and cash in on the heritage. That is retro - which doesn't stop the Triumphs from being good bikes, by the way. That aside, any bike is either good to ride or not. The V7 is good to ride. I'm on my 2nd (the first was stolen) and I've used it for everything from a 40 mile round trip commute, in all weathers, to 200 mile day trips, and 2 up camping trips. It will exceed the highest speed limit in the country by 40%, it is economical to ride, will out accelerate anything but a sports car or sports bike, and it is comfortable, reliable, and a joy to ride.
Guzzi style is abit like Porsche 911 style, but les monotonous
It's a wonderful machine& I want one ASAP despite what idiot rarefied road bloke says
Moto guzzi is timeles &classy 911 is hrrible monotony
Thanks for your review. Unfortunately I am no longer able to drive/ride due to health issues. The upside is that I enjoy the fact that my son has just bought a new V7 3 Stone with Night pack, and waiting for a screen and centre stand. I had a V50 Guzzi many years ago ( probably the first in Wales, at least South Wales) and loved the bike. I’ve just subscribed and lol forward to more videos. Regards, Bob M, South Wales
Thanks Bob, sorry to hear that you're off the road but I'm sure your son is representing you well on those twisty welsh roads. Thanks for subscribing, I'll do my best not to disappoint.
i had v7 and sold it after 96,000 klm with no issues mechanicly or electrics and the new owner is still riding it
I can believe that, good to know they last well
The Italians do know how to design a bike that looks good.
I have recently bought a V7 STONE II myself (my first every motorbike after passing my test), and your review was a factor in me going with this bike, so thanks for that.
In regards to the electrical smell - in my excitement to receive delivery of the bike, I did something I never normally do and read the PDF manual - in the manual it states that the dry clutch used on the bike can produce an electrical smell in use and its nothing to worry about?!
That would actually make sense. Nothing ever seemed to break on it after the smell and nothing was smoking so it probably was the dry clutch. Either way it lasted me well.
Hope you enjoy the bike mate, it's a cracking bike to start on.
Rarefied Road - thanks yes seems like the perfect bike for me at the moment - and as you stated in your review it sounds amazing also.
Hello son, good of you to keep in touch, so pleased that your suspension is awesome, hope to hear from you again soon 😂
I own a 2016 Motto Guzzi Stone and I love it. Most likely will never get rid of it. I also own a 2015 Harley Super Low 1200T that I also love. The Motto Guzzi when I ride it takes me back to the 1970's. Great bike for what it is and what it represents. just replaced the tires on the MG V7II due to excessive riding ;-)
I rarely comment, but, Excellent review! Oozes honesty. And coolness. And it sounds like it comes out of the mouth of a true biker. Cheers, man!
Very kind, thanks Giorgos. Ride safe
The master cylinder is fine but it requires the following
1. Use care and the right size Philips head screwdriver
2. Clean meticulously the cap , the grooves, the edges etc BUT DONT USE BRAKE OR CARB CLEANER AS IT SWELL THE RUBBER.
3. Fill exactly to the line
4. Pre-shape the rubber bladder and refit ensuring gentle pressing into grooves
5. Check cleanlinesses
6. Refit lid gently
7. Replace and tighten screws evenly , one side then the next then the other etc , just beyond finger tight will work
I did this and it has never leaked again. Mostly its the cleanliness and over tightening of the cap that causes a twist or torque and allows a leak.
Try this before you fork out cash for new bits
One of the best reviews on a beautiful Moto Guzzi, been obsessed with them yet never owned one. No dealership anywhere near me and well the dry clutch (use the friction zone).
Cheers
Thanks Andrew, sorry you haven't got a dealer near you but I'll be posting a lot more videos on it in the future so believe me you'll feel like you own one by the end
I agree, Andrew, Rarified was clear in describing the pros and cons. One point was kept clear of another. Keep those hopes alive you one day own one, because as the reviewer said ,overall this is a bike that you can live with in a relaxed way,and that doesn't have to live up to a lot of hype. A reviewer of the V7 111 Stone, went abroad on it and did nearly 300 miles one day- BMW plus fairing territory!. For me that just about sums up the fun and comfort of riding the modern Guzzis
PS Poor handling in wet is down to the tyres. Rarefied ws too diplomtic to say it, but ditch the original tyres as soon as poss. Bridgestones are a good replacement but read 80;8 photography and design's recommendation in his reviews
I frankly have no idea where the nearest Moto Guzzi dealer is in comparison to where I live but I sure am glad that I banished all those totally rational fears before I bought the lightly used '03 Cali Stone 1100 that I picked up north of Seattle approx. 90 days ago. Great ride home 175 miles back South to my place. I wanted a Griso but this was a desperate private party who had just bumped his ad down from $3,500 to $2,800. Needless to say I pounced. So glad I did because it surpasses every expectation I had of them. I also have owned a 1976 V 1000 I convert for half a dozen years with 55,000 miles that I am sort of "resto modding". Total comprehensive brake system rebuild. Ported the heads and lapped in the valves. Tearing into the dual range gearbox to solve the dilemma of why it won't go into either range. Having a peek into the engine and how little wear was evident sold me on the brand. So much so that I yearned for another M.G. and this Cali. Stone had caught my eye with it's low miles and asking price. Best $2,800 I ever spent and OMG! The sound that comes out of those twin stainless LaFranconi's!!! I guess both my M.G.'s are cruisers yet they both are built on the Tonti frame and handle great. My biggest fear is what I have heard about the Nikasil treatment of the cylinders flaking off to some extent on certain bikes. Alas my '76 has iron liners per police spec. and the model conceived to satisfy the desire for An auto trans. that would allow for simplified riding and must make for the best funeral escort bike ever. Relatively simple bikes with great engineering, handling and power which I actually find more than adequate. Yeah, I'm glad I stuck to my convictions and bought another Moto Guzzi. If it continues to run as it has since I bought it then I will have the luxury of not being overly concerned about the big gaps in the dealer network.
I had a 2000 Moto Guzzi Centauro. Beautiful bike. Some days it ran really well. Other days it bucked, snorted and complained every mile. Very stereotypical Italian machine.
best V7 review I've seen.
Thanks
As far as Italian bikes, I have owned a ducati 860, moto morini 500 camel, laverda 3cl 1000, cagiva 650, and currently have a 1989 Moto Guzzi Mille GT 1000 and a 2013 Moto Guzzi Stone 750. Have owned several German bikes to include BMW and Zundaps. Grew up with British bikes--meaning Triumph and BSA. Have never been interested in Harley. Owned several Suzuki's to include 2-stroke models and the Wankel rotary 750. The Moto Guzzis have been my favorite above all the rest. Quirky, reliable, tractor-like in that the Japanese "refinement" is not there--but if you love just being connected to machinery and sound--Moto Guzzi!--mike battle
If you're smelling hot electrics there's a good chance it's your rectifier regulator overheating. I dont know about guzzis specifically but that's the part that gets hot and can take quite a bit of cooking before it does completely. Might want to see how hot it is next time you smell the smell.
Sound advice thank you, I'll go investigating next time it happens but it sounds like you might be right.
Lovely review. As an owner of the dark Carbon 2018, I must say so far - touch wood, no electronics or otherwise any issues. What I love about this bike is exactly as you put it, not too fast, not too slow neither, gives you a relax ride, and not to mention the turning point is massive, perfect for commute and filtering. I Put Mistral pipes and the sweet sound of heaven comes out with a cheeky boost in torque.
My understanding is that in 2017 Piaggio took over QA on Motto Guzzi and the overall reliability has gone up a great deal.
May I ask Please, WHERE did you purchase the 'Mistral pipes'?
And WHAT country are you in?
Thank You and regards.
(Melbourne, Victoria, 'OZ', - Australia)
@@tpv59 Mistral is in Italy. I got my sales rep to order me one and delivered to them and installed in their workshop in London, UK.
@@coolatzo
THANK YOU Farshad, GREATLY APPRECIATED.
I will make enquiries on Monday at the Guzzi dealership 'spare parts'.
They should be able to get it here to 'OZ'.
Thanks again.
- Hav a gd 1.
One of the best no bullshit reviews ever
guzzi sound...theres nothing like it
Agreed mate. I miss it, I really do.
Got one last week. You forgot to mention that it's the most effortlessly beautiful bike on the road.
It does stand out. I love it.
Owned 3 v7s, slow,slow, slow, great review, spot on, fuel injection is terribly notchy and jumpy
Burning smell - Check the alternator connector just below the headstock, I've seen pictures of them completely melted (although no problem with mine after 5 years).
Great sound from those pipes!
PS. Your clutch cable isn't routed properly, it should slip through the gap just below the speedo.
PPS. I'm 5'11" and had to raise the seat for a better fit, now it's a great do-anything-bike :-)