Surprised I’ve never seen this footage, still the greatest record to come out of the hardcore scene as far as I’m concerned, and the best live show as well. Great group of dudes, both Harley and John. Had a big impact on my life!
Thanks, the day it was posted was the day it was "let out..." I was warned that night by CrisW that if he saw it for sale at the bootleg stores in the village... he would sick the NYHC on me... LOL - I didn't let it out and thought 32 years was enough to finally see the brilliance and energy of the time...
@@JohnnyangelNIU that’s a tough one. Both are killer albums. I would give the nod to discharge though. It came out first, and obviously had influenced age of quarrel. I go back to that album more than i do quarrel
I saw them on this tour at City Gardens in Trenton when I was 17 I was against the stage I thought I was gonna be crushed to death. The place went bezerk
@@silverblack5475 Exodus doesn't have the breakdowns that they have, their breakdowns incited the pit, at shows like Exodus people moshed because they thought that is what they should be doing. Just my take, but hey, what the fuck do I know bro..
where are the black hoodies, the black thick framed glasses, the fitted Yankees hats? I don't even recognize this as a NY hardcore show if I don't see big obnoxious Xs on hands
JOHN COULD HAVE BEEN AN MMA FIGHTER, HE HAS THAT EXPLOSIVE ,QUICK THRASHING MOVEMENTS!!! HIM AND HARLEY BOTH COULD HAVE FOUGHT IN MIXED MARTIAL ARTS WITH THEIR STREET FIGHTING EXPERIENCE 🤘🤘💪💪💪
I remember cro mags without jon played in the late 90's in sf. Harley could barely remember the lyrics he was so doped out. Ton of old heads wanted to smash him real bad over some shit he did that fucked a bunch of people over involving dope deals i think. He bitched out in the back and wouldn't face anyone. Had security protect him till everyone left after the show was over. Cro mags is nothing without jon.
I'm guessing Harley, he's in much better shape, a bit younger, and has more of a background in self-defense. Wattie has heart issues (God bless the guy he's had about 4 heart attacks) and should really be taking things a bit easier these days.
At their peaks i 'd give it to Harley just because of the Jiu Jitsu. Wattie was bad ass in his day. I saw him during a show in 1990 W/ Biohazard and type O Negative Fight 3 skindeads one on three and he layed ALL of them out. The bouncers dragged their unconcious asses outside. Hey Wattie gave them guys a warning to stop punching the peeps with Mohawks and spiked hair, they didn't listen and paid the price.
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Man i wish there was bands with singers like jon these days. So much energetic charisma!
A legit frontman.
I was at this show, back in the day when thrash and hardcore bands were on the same bill , shit was crazy , lots of fights .
silver black yea i saw AF w slayer at the ritz in 86 was tons of fights
Is there really that much difference between thrash and hardcore? Sounds like splitting hairs. Like two factions of the same religion.
crushsatan yea true but it was more short hair vs long hair from 84-89 some ugly shit went down
Thrash+Hardcore=Crossover
More details plz like who played with who, craziest fights, ect
Who is hittin this in 2020, the real Cro-Mags
Deadly 👌🏻🔪☠️
2022 😁
There is no real cro-mags anymore.
All they do is talk shit about each other.
No amount of money could recapture the best days of this awesome band.
@@boris1387 I think he was referring to the real Cro-mags in this video
2022
Doug Holland never gets the love he should....thanks for this great upload WB!
I was 20 days old when this show happened. Pissed I didn't make it out.
I was 17, dang.
AMTube club is
real proud a ya!
As someone who was there, You missed a great show. This is when they were at their best.
🤣🤣🤣 it's the thought that counts
16:03 - me fav Cro-Mags track ever!!
Pretty amazing live vocalist, wow
@@postlex both are awesome. If it weren't for Harley then the crossover metal stuff wouldn't have came out both are badass.
The vocalist is just the vessel. The music is the crackwhip and the audience is satans spawn.
@@Oi325they both were playing Paris songs
Amazing the results of playing the same songs for 7 years!
Parris just did a interview with HardLore podcast, it was really in depth about the process of being in CroMags. It’s really interesting
post the link please.
Great show! I was there to see Cro-Mags and was really impressed with Leeway who I'd not heard before being from out of town.
The best cro mags line up ever ! 👍🖖🤙❤🎸🎸🎸📢🎼🎶🎵
The only one
@@maverickworld8192 Only one that mattered lol
@@justsomedudeyouknow8372 true 👍
Surprised I’ve never seen this footage, still the greatest record to come out of the hardcore scene as far as I’m concerned, and the best live show as well. Great group of dudes, both Harley and John. Had a big impact on my life!
Thanks, the day it was posted was the day it was "let out..." I was warned that night by CrisW that if he saw it for sale at the bootleg stores in the village... he would sick the NYHC on me... LOL - I didn't let it out and thought 32 years was enough to finally see the brilliance and energy of the time...
Thanks for posting it amigo
@@WoodstockBuddha well done, sir.
@@DiamorphineDeath Slightly diff genre, but how do you feel AOC matches up against that first Discharge LP?
@@JohnnyangelNIU that’s a tough one. Both are killer albums. I would give the nod to discharge though. It came out first, and obviously had influenced age of quarrel. I go back to that album more than i do quarrel
Gd old days in Bklyn NY i miss this club so much.
Thomas Ackerly me too brother
Alec Friedman be m
@@yadillahnai Leeway ALEC Friedman where are u
Probably one the most powerful intro of all time!
Agreed
One of my preferred bands ever. Whatta stage presence from John n Harley! John has the same energy as Henry Rollins.
Meth head he said
He is coping HR. All of his moves are like watching HR.
I've always loved these guys I love the energy
John Joseph & Harley ! 2 PSYCHOS 🤘
John Joseph rocking like H.R!!!
And a good band to, like the bad brains
@rajivaksha dasa dude what?
dasa dude what the fuck are you saying
@@silverblack5475 I don't even think he knows what he was saying..
I saw them on this tour at City Gardens in Trenton when I was 17 I was against the stage I thought I was gonna be crushed to death. The place went bezerk
I miss city gardens
I love live shows somewhat close to the record release date.
CRO-MAGS RULE!!!!
1 week ago live at JunkYard Dortmund, Germany. Still the same power !
I'm 41 years old and I still want to destroy when i hear Age of Quarrel.
It's a malfunction
Im 50 and I go crazy at the gym 🏋️♂️ benching 350 pounds 100x then I go crazy and bench 135 pounds 1000x
I'm going to be 51 September 1st..still a maniac
Incredible performance
JOHN IS SO ENERGETIC, LIKE A BOXER IN THE RING🤘🤘
John and Harley act exactly the same after all these years. Same energy too! Take care of yourselves kids!
L'Amour-the fucking greatest club. This was a great show
I literally spent my whole life there. Best 👌 times ⏲️ 👌 of my life
@@maverickworld8192I did for 3years 83 to 86 then I left for military 🪖🪖🎖️ in 86
Great show.
This is beautiful
great upload.... real treasure
THANK YOU.
I opened up for them once at the loft in Poughkeepsie I had a bad cold society today
And thanks for video!
i was born 9 months later just missed it 😂🤘
These were the days!
NYC hardcore hardest punching lifestyle from the beginning to end.
These were the days , no one could fuck with a NY crowd back in the 80s , man i miss fuckin La' mours
Crush the Demoniac with John Joseph singing the last song is incredible
Metalheads used to run for cover when they played, that pit was not the the faint of heart.
I'm a metalhead and I've been in cro mags pit , they don't compare to an EXODUS pit .
@@silverblack5475 Exodus doesn't have the breakdowns that they have, their breakdowns incited the pit, at shows like Exodus people moshed because they thought that is what they should be doing. Just my take, but hey, what the fuck do I know bro..
@@silverblack5475
I been to both too..
Nothing compares to the violent mosh pits at the Chro Mags show.. Or any NYHC show at CBGB's
Life of Agony, Kid died stage diving🙏🙏
OBITUARY and CANNIBAL CORPSE have some GREAT MOSH pits ALSO, BUT CRO MAGS PITS AT LAMOURS BACK IN THE DAY WERE LEGENDARY🤘🤘🤘🤘💪💪💪💪
Wow! You made my day thanks!
You went to L'Amour Saturday night...
joseph best vocal
Still here in 2021...
💯💯💯💯💯💯❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
( 37) years ago!!!!👌🤘🤘
If it weren’t for that dolt Harley imagine where these guys should and would be today. Greatest band of their era.
great!
What did you use to record this?! This is hella good sound & video quality
Especially for 87 cameras weren't that GD at all back then
Elgato capture card
@@thomasackerly2410 there were excellent cameras back then
where are the black hoodies, the black thick framed glasses, the fitted Yankees hats? I don't even recognize this as a NY hardcore show if I don't see big obnoxious Xs on hands
That was a few years later, when all the suburban and Connecticut kids got hip to the scene.
ok boomer
JOHN COULD HAVE BEEN AN MMA FIGHTER, HE HAS THAT EXPLOSIVE ,QUICK THRASHING MOVEMENTS!!! HIM AND HARLEY BOTH COULD HAVE FOUGHT IN MIXED MARTIAL ARTS WITH THEIR STREET FIGHTING EXPERIENCE 🤘🤘💪💪💪
His father was a boxer
think thats dan lilkler stage diving at 37.28
Def. Dan Lilker. He opened the show with nuclear assault so make sense.
I met Dan Lilker at a record store in Michigan not long after he had joined Brutal Truth. What a cool dude he is.
Is Pete Heinz on drums by this point or is Mackie still there?
Paris Mayhew!!!💯🔥🔥🔥🤘
I was -13 years old…. Pissed I couldn’t make it 🤬
sick
Holy fuck, did Nuclear Assault and Carnivore play at this show too? Where is the footage of them?
20:15 - not much has changed in 34 years
Seekers of the truth eqauts to SCANK!!!!!! Get in the pit ... All my buds were long haired and skins we all got along thanks to the music ..
Anybody have 1980s biohazard live(impossible2find)?thanx 4posting this I was there at 21 years old.
I remember cro mags without jon played in the late 90's in sf. Harley could barely remember the lyrics he was so doped out. Ton of old heads wanted to smash him real bad over some shit he did that fucked a bunch of people over involving dope deals i think. He bitched out in the back and wouldn't face anyone. Had security protect him till everyone left after the show was over. Cro mags is nothing without jon.
What song is at 9:00?
It`s the Song "Malfunction"
@@dirkstephan6000 malfunction-einer der besten songs ever
I malfunction is my favorite
Was this the show with Warzone and Murphy's Law? I think I was there.
No, at 22.42 JJ thanks to Nuclear Assault and Carnivore.
Anyone got the tracklist?
They played Age of Quarrel in record order, in its entirety and then Crush the Demoniac.
🎵THOSE WERE THE DAYS🎶. WHEN MENS WERE MENS & SHEEP FUCKING RAN ☠️
I’m listening to this on just (1) AirPod and it sounds great.
I always wondering who would win wattie or harley, if they were fighting lol
I'm guessing Harley, he's in much better shape, a bit younger, and has more of a background in self-defense. Wattie has heart issues (God bless the guy he's had about 4 heart attacks) and should really be taking things a bit easier these days.
@@JohnnyangelNIU wattie is a beast tho, hope he is good always
At their peaks i 'd give it to Harley just because of the Jiu Jitsu. Wattie was bad ass in his day. I saw him during a show in 1990 W/ Biohazard and type O Negative Fight 3 skindeads one on three and he layed ALL of them out. The bouncers dragged their unconcious asses outside. Hey Wattie gave them guys a warning to stop punching the peeps with Mohawks and spiked hair, they didn't listen and paid the price.
Ahhh the god fathers of New York Hardcore.Bands like this gave the sissies on the West Coast a wake up call
Кро маньонцы!!!!!!!! Почему они никак не помирятся. Тандем Флэнэген и Джозеф - это просто убийственно!
i don’t speak italian
@@carsontrump5613 it's Russian, fool
You lucky bastard
we cause a mosh pit like cro mags at l’amour
I wonder who actually wrote these songs
I love how cro mags breaks the myth of vegan leftists
only one of this lineup is vegan, and none are "leftists".
I never understood the new york hari krishna stuff. All good tho. Skins 4 life!
the vocal lines have something to do with a German barking out orders
That boy is obviously all hopped up on goofballs.
Cro-mags history: m.th-cam.com/video/E_8s9Jm49vw/w-d-xo.html
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