I might actually consider buying one. I have heard increasingly more and more negative opinions about you know who. The fun thing about action cams is that you can use them on all kinds of different things.
Props for you being honest about it being an ad. The onboard mic still doesn't sound amazing, something I have to give to GoPro is that I can record in camera with no messing and it comes out perfect. Until the GoPro doesn't work of course! Great vid.
I watched your injuries suck video, thought that some other road rider who tells the story interestingly. So I subscribed. But now I see you know cameras, garmin, and also do MX. It will be more likely that I watch your videos from now on. ❤
Honestly, is it for bikers, though? I'm flabbergasted that no company came out with dual lense (front and back) camera yet that'd mount one lense on the back of the helmet and the other one on the front using flat cable. It'd be hard to notice, aerodynamic, the weight could be evenly distributed, it wouldn't protrude from the chin hitting things like traditional action cameras do, and it could still stitch the image together creating the illusion of 360° view. But somehow we get those cumbersome boxes instead.
I get what you're saying, and I'd ABSOLUTELY love to see Cardo integrate a helmet cam option like this (for the first few models of front-back mounted cams we'd have to deal with our current 3M VHB Chin Mount Mounts, but after the idea has 2 or 3 models in the consumer space helmet makers kike HJC may integrate a thicker chin bar so they can make a square 1x1x0.5 inch recess into the helmet, and likewise maybe a flush mount solution at back of helmet with a 1x1x1 inch square recess (thickening the back area too)) Only comment: It wouldn't be a 360 chop-up in video software like Adobe Premiere, because there would be a human-sized head making a gap between the front/back cameras so the side-to-side wouldn't be as seamless as the Insta360 solutions where the side-to-side is pretty seamless. I imagine for a 3rd or 4th iteration you'd want side-cameras on the helmet, and instead of thickening the helmet at the ear/jaw sides of the helmet, you have the side cameras as JUST cameras, and the processing chip/processing components are done where a Cardo Packtalk Slim has it's bulky box in current models, at the back of helmet but flush to the bottom-rim of the helmet. This could be an add-on to models 2/3 of the front-back camera, or just be what sets models 4/5 apart from the predecessors. The side cams could be built onto flexible PCB and the camera body itself is not directly on the PCB (otherwise it'd be too rigid/strengthening the flexibility of the thin PCB) but the wires go to PCB of course, and the Camera Body (lens, protective cover, etc etc) could be mounted onto thin-ish flexible silicone ring or rubber ring (think rubber grommet material) so that the Camera Body doesn't get affected by whichever way the thing PCB gets mounted/curved onto the helmet. Because with a soft flexible silicone ring or rubber ring the Camera Body could be independent of the PCB aside from the power and data connections going to the PCB. TL;DR This idea is doable, I hope to see Klim, Alpinestars (hopefully not them, they'll likely just patent the shit out of it and have it be proprietary or closed ecosystem), Cardo (hopefully, to break into the video space, would help push their comms units too since they could control the audio processing for their camera system natively, taking away the "need" for external mics with action cameras), Insta360 (would probably be a jump out of their wheelhouse, but they have cameras and motorcycle niche on point, they could solidify that even more if when you heard GoPro you'd associate it with being the Sena of motorcycle comms systems, slightly good, has flaws, doesn't work as well, and is locked down and over marketed. If Insta360 would make a "Line 2" or "X-4 Full Camera System" they'd be as synonymous with motorcycle helmets as Cardo is. I expect and hope to see this idea by 2035, come on Insta360, you guys already have a strong motorcycle niche on lock, go and solidify yourselves by making GoPro and DJI just completely irrelevant for Motorcyclists that want that great camera footage for both motovlogging with a great POV, but also great dashcam. Cardo, I implore you guys to also develop this idea too, you've made deals where HJC cock-blocked non-Cardo units and even cock-blocked Cardo Packtalk Slim units from being installed before. I'm sure you could leverage your Helmet Manufacturer connections to make a clean and integrated solution like all the abundant helmets with comms-speaker cut outs in them today. You guys have the helmet manufacturer connections and fantastic audio, all Insta360 has is a growing niche of motorcyclist fans, they don't have prior Audio and Helmet capabilities, you do, you (Cardo) could really lock yourselves down here and let Sena just waste away with their Shoei specific helmets that we (cardo lovers that want nice not-closed-down quiet helmets) both want and despise, make Sena and their closed-ecosystem completely irrelevant by blowing their shoddy quality out of the water in a whole new way.
I've been looking for something like this for a long time! More for security/safety/accountability reasons, than for motovlogging. That way with it being on your helmet front & back, you could use it on multiple bikes instead of getting installed dashcams mounted for each bike.
@@ivecentral And not only when riding but when you go to pay on a petrol station or go shopping, etc, as long as you're still in your helmet and people don't even see the camera - it's just that extra layer of safety in case of issues. Imagine being a food delivery guy and have the ability to show your boss you didn't f*ck with the order no matter what the customer claims. 🤷♂ I mean cameras like that exist, just not dedicated for bikers.
Thank you for this video... the settings seem amazing enough to make me consider buying one... The only thing I find that the GoPro 11 has in its favor is the built in GPS (which I need) and would rather not have an external item and the GoPro 12 which has bluetooth which lets me use my Sena's (Camera 10c Pro, 30k, SMH10 and hopefully soon the 50c camera) for sound and comes out in great quality. I know people have done reviews of the 12 with ear pods and the like and the quality is low but I have never had an issue sound wise with the Sena's (better quality parts I guess). But hardly anyone actually really properly wants to review this feature of the GoPro 12.... I would on my motorcycle channel (under a different name than the one I am using to post here) but my channel is not for reviewing accessories. LOL Anyway the Ace Pro really does seem like a good option for just A roll recording videos. I am very interested so thank you for the video.
Nice video man! Seems like Insta 360 is taking over, Ryan F9 did a video on this as well, your video is more informative, not easy beating F9! Well done! Keep on keeping on.
I have to be honest. I would love to film a motorcycle trip this summer with my son. We will be on different bikes. But what camera do I use. 360? 180? If I only had one camera, which should I have?
My first experience. I’m using it for mountain biking. Didn’t use pure mode, was recording in 4k hdr in dark forest. And to be honest it was good. Overall. Next time I was using pure video and it was better, even I forgot to turn on stabilization on. It was solid. Didn’t fail or freeze at any point. I use to have GoPro 9. Didn’t regret to buy Ace pro. Thank you for your review
You too can be one of the first people to leave a meaningless comment since none of us have had time to watch the full video yet, -if you also hit that notification bell and say to always alert you on a new video drop! (Is Sunday just the best motovlogger day? Chaos Causes at 9am Eastern (-5 UTC) and then Life Of Burch in the afternoon-evening of Sunday? Really puts the Funday in Sunday when two great motorcycle channels upload on the same day)
Absolutely great videos, most enjoyable and enlightening. Apart from the odd editing glitch, like fist instead of first, or assitant vs assistant. I'm agonna get me one of those !
For a casual weekend warrior, the form factor of these new additions is just more of the same. I really just would like something more sleek and less obnoxious than the current gopro or this, even with less functionality. Its just a mess on a helmet. My very old contour 1080p was better suited, just as big just in a different profile. My hero session as well. These big things hook on branches and all sorts riding enduro. No beuno.
Is this still a good option today... I have limited finance to start my channel but spotted an insta 360 one rs with additional 360 lens at good price.. What do you think...? 🎉
Hey there Justin I have a question for you. I also have a 2019 yz250f and I just wanted to know if you had any problems with fouling spark plugs. I am running the stock map and head gaskets and everything are all replaced. I would like to hear from you and keep up the good work
I have my doubt or the insta360 go3 or insta360 ace pro. I would use it on my motorcycle what do you prefer? The go3 is small enough battery life is beter but the ace pro is better in low light. End both is to expensive 😂
Not a review becaise "When people pay me, i tend to like things more." 😂 your honesty about the product still leaked out. Regareless.. what a great comparison. .. Really appreciate all the tips in photography too.
Quick question what brand are those brown cargos you have on they look really nice I like the cut on them , the insta camara is ok good I like your none review 👍
The sensor is better on the Ace pro. So it does better low light pictures and video. However, other than the screen, it's the same cameras as the one RS.
@@ChaosCauses I usually really like your content but how can you sell a camera without testing one of the biggest competitor in the field. I get that you need money and stuff but man, there are proper ways to do it
@@ChaosCauses try the GoPro 12 (or 11 if you need GPS logs because the 12 lost GPS for extra battery life (I a decide if this is a big deal or not but I don’t like losing features. Clearly they were feeling pressure). The 8:7 recording alone is super cool and useful, can be tuned down to 16:9 but gives you lots of room for activities
And all action cams fail when it comes to providing audio for bikers. Even this one. As soon as you place a lav mic in the helmet, i.e. directly in the chin area, to reduce wind noise and record your own comments, it gets very lonely with the action cams. Not a single action cam can simply plug in a lav mic and deliver clean sound. You need the expensive media mod from GoPro or the new DJI adapter from DJI to get clean audio. Not even the Osmo Action 3 delivers undistorted - i.e. usable - sound. Insta also requires an additional adapter and the sound is disappointing to say the least.
4:43 I get this is not a review but this is...questionable? Couldn't you have just gone back and grabbed some footage? You could've charged it a little too since I guarantee you had a usb-c cable on you.
I might actually consider buying one. I have heard increasingly more and more negative opinions about you know who. The fun thing about action cams is that you can use them on all kinds of different things.
U talking about GoPro ??
To me the action camera to buy now is the dji osmo action 3. I got it for 280€ and i think that for the price there is no better alternative
@@yashuftwxDyes, GoPro is going down
Not a camera nerd, but I enjoyed your explanations. Glad you are happy with the camera.
Props for you being honest about it being an ad. The onboard mic still doesn't sound amazing, something I have to give to GoPro is that I can record in camera with no messing and it comes out perfect. Until the GoPro doesn't work of course! Great vid.
I watched your injuries suck video, thought that some other road rider who tells the story interestingly. So I subscribed. But now I see you know cameras, garmin, and also do MX. It will be more likely that I watch your videos from now on. ❤
"If they pay me i like it more", 😂 love your honesty
Honestly, is it for bikers, though? I'm flabbergasted that no company came out with dual lense (front and back) camera yet that'd mount one lense on the back of the helmet and the other one on the front using flat cable. It'd be hard to notice, aerodynamic, the weight could be evenly distributed, it wouldn't protrude from the chin hitting things like traditional action cameras do, and it could still stitch the image together creating the illusion of 360° view. But somehow we get those cumbersome boxes instead.
Business idea 👀
I get what you're saying, and I'd ABSOLUTELY love to see Cardo integrate a helmet cam option like this (for the first few models of front-back mounted cams we'd have to deal with our current 3M VHB Chin Mount Mounts, but after the idea has 2 or 3 models in the consumer space helmet makers kike HJC may integrate a thicker chin bar so they can make a square 1x1x0.5 inch recess into the helmet, and likewise maybe a flush mount solution at back of helmet with a 1x1x1 inch square recess (thickening the back area too))
Only comment: It wouldn't be a 360 chop-up in video software like Adobe Premiere, because there would be a human-sized head making a gap between the front/back cameras so the side-to-side wouldn't be as seamless as the Insta360 solutions where the side-to-side is pretty seamless.
I imagine for a 3rd or 4th iteration you'd want side-cameras on the helmet, and instead of thickening the helmet at the ear/jaw sides of the helmet, you have the side cameras as JUST cameras, and the processing chip/processing components are done where a Cardo Packtalk Slim has it's bulky box in current models, at the back of helmet but flush to the bottom-rim of the helmet.
This could be an add-on to models 2/3 of the front-back camera, or just be what sets models 4/5 apart from the predecessors. The side cams could be built onto flexible PCB and the camera body itself is not directly on the PCB (otherwise it'd be too rigid/strengthening the flexibility of the thin PCB) but the wires go to PCB of course, and the Camera Body (lens, protective cover, etc etc) could be mounted onto thin-ish flexible silicone ring or rubber ring (think rubber grommet material) so that the Camera Body doesn't get affected by whichever way the thing PCB gets mounted/curved onto the helmet. Because with a soft flexible silicone ring or rubber ring the Camera Body could be independent of the PCB aside from the power and data connections going to the PCB.
TL;DR This idea is doable, I hope to see Klim, Alpinestars (hopefully not them, they'll likely just patent the shit out of it and have it be proprietary or closed ecosystem), Cardo (hopefully, to break into the video space, would help push their comms units too since they could control the audio processing for their camera system natively, taking away the "need" for external mics with action cameras), Insta360 (would probably be a jump out of their wheelhouse, but they have cameras and motorcycle niche on point, they could solidify that even more if when you heard GoPro you'd associate it with being the Sena of motorcycle comms systems, slightly good, has flaws, doesn't work as well, and is locked down and over marketed. If Insta360 would make a "Line 2" or "X-4 Full Camera System" they'd be as synonymous with motorcycle helmets as Cardo is.
I expect and hope to see this idea by 2035, come on Insta360, you guys already have a strong motorcycle niche on lock, go and solidify yourselves by making GoPro and DJI just completely irrelevant for Motorcyclists that want that great camera footage for both motovlogging with a great POV, but also great dashcam.
Cardo, I implore you guys to also develop this idea too, you've made deals where HJC cock-blocked non-Cardo units and even cock-blocked Cardo Packtalk Slim units from being installed before. I'm sure you could leverage your Helmet Manufacturer connections to make a clean and integrated solution like all the abundant helmets with comms-speaker cut outs in them today. You guys have the helmet manufacturer connections and fantastic audio, all Insta360 has is a growing niche of motorcyclist fans, they don't have prior Audio and Helmet capabilities, you do, you (Cardo) could really lock yourselves down here and let Sena just waste away with their Shoei specific helmets that we (cardo lovers that want nice not-closed-down quiet helmets) both want and despise, make Sena and their closed-ecosystem completely irrelevant by blowing their shoddy quality out of the water in a whole new way.
I've been looking for something like this for a long time! More for security/safety/accountability reasons, than for motovlogging. That way with it being on your helmet front & back, you could use it on multiple bikes instead of getting installed dashcams mounted for each bike.
@@ivecentral And not only when riding but when you go to pay on a petrol station or go shopping, etc, as long as you're still in your helmet and people don't even see the camera - it's just that extra layer of safety in case of issues. Imagine being a food delivery guy and have the ability to show your boss you didn't f*ck with the order no matter what the customer claims. 🤷♂ I mean cameras like that exist, just not dedicated for bikers.
@cprn. Exactly! I 100% agree!
Thank you for this video... the settings seem amazing enough to make me consider buying one... The only thing I find that the GoPro 11 has in its favor is the built in GPS (which I need) and would rather not have an external item and the GoPro 12 which has bluetooth which lets me use my Sena's (Camera 10c Pro, 30k, SMH10 and hopefully soon the 50c camera) for sound and comes out in great quality. I know people have done reviews of the 12 with ear pods and the like and the quality is low but I have never had an issue sound wise with the Sena's (better quality parts I guess). But hardly anyone actually really properly wants to review this feature of the GoPro 12.... I would on my motorcycle channel (under a different name than the one I am using to post here) but my channel is not for reviewing accessories. LOL
Anyway the Ace Pro really does seem like a good option for just A roll recording videos. I am very interested so thank you for the video.
Nice video man! Seems like Insta 360 is taking over, Ryan F9 did a video on this as well, your video is more informative, not easy beating F9! Well done!
Keep on keeping on.
I have to be honest. I would love to film a motorcycle trip this summer with my son. We will be on different bikes. But what camera do I use. 360? 180? If I only had one camera, which should I have?
My first experience. I’m using it for mountain biking. Didn’t use pure mode, was recording in 4k hdr in dark forest. And to be honest it was good. Overall. Next time I was using pure video and it was better, even I forgot to turn on stabilization on. It was solid. Didn’t fail or freeze at any point. I use to have GoPro 9. Didn’t regret to buy Ace pro.
Thank you for your review
I have dji action 4. Is the best!!!
I realy love the insta360 products especialy the software
You too can be one of the first people to leave a meaningless comment since none of us have had time to watch the full video yet, -if you also hit that notification bell and say to always alert you on a new video drop!
(Is Sunday just the best motovlogger day? Chaos Causes at 9am Eastern (-5 UTC) and then Life Of Burch in the afternoon-evening of Sunday? Really puts the Funday in Sunday when two great motorcycle channels upload on the same day)
Damn you do my job better than me lol!
I can’t believe they don’t have an option to shoot in LOG… so you won’t be able to get that beautiful, crisp, color graded look.
When peoples pay me, I tend to like the things more :D
Nice
I have x3 and Ace Pro
Both are excellent in their respective categories
just wanna say thats a good thumbnail
Thanks!
Absolutely great videos, most enjoyable and enlightening. Apart from the odd editing glitch, like fist instead of first, or assitant vs assistant. I'm agonna get me one of those !
For a casual weekend warrior, the form factor of these new additions is just more of the same.
I really just would like something more sleek and less obnoxious than the current gopro or this, even with less functionality. Its just a mess on a helmet.
My very old contour 1080p was better suited, just as big just in a different profile. My hero session as well. These big things hook on branches and all sorts riding enduro. No beuno.
U forgot to mention if it’s water proof. Does it has any water resistance?
Are there any experiences with the batteries? Personally, I've made a lot of bad purchases with GoPro batteries...😮
Good man, why, for being open, humorous and transparent about you are sponsored.
Is this still a good option today... I have limited finance to start my channel but spotted an insta 360 one rs with additional 360 lens at good price.. What do you think...?
🎉
Hey there Justin I have a question for you. I also have a 2019 yz250f and I just wanted to know if you had any problems with fouling spark plugs. I am running the stock map and head gaskets and everything are all replaced. I would like to hear from you and keep up the good work
Flip screen good
I have my doubt or the insta360 go3 or insta360 ace pro. I would use it on my motorcycle what do you prefer? The go3 is small enough battery life is beter but the ace pro is better in low light. End both is to expensive 😂
Not a review becaise "When people pay me, i tend to like things more." 😂 your honesty about the product still leaked out. Regareless.. what a great comparison. .. Really appreciate all the tips in photography too.
didn’t expand on the audio - does it come with an 3.5mm plug or u need an adapter for vlogging?
Does it clip when it gets loud?
Looks like you need an adapter
Adapter sold separately. Audio levels can be set manually to avoid clipping
I used to think the acepro is far better than dji action 4 since it has the 360 lens until i watched your video 🙃
Hi. Does this camera have a quick start mode like que Gopro's?
Quick question what brand are those brown cargos you have on they look really nice I like the cut on them , the insta camara is ok good I like your none review 👍
Go Pro makes it easy for the competition to take over.
Can i get a date stamp when i snap a photos during video recording?
I think I am gonna get one.
If you could only have one would you choose the one RS or the ace pro
Given that I have an X3 as well for 360 I would choose the Ace Pro
The sensor is better on the Ace pro. So it does better low light pictures and video. However, other than the screen, it's the same cameras as the one RS.
What about voice commands ?
Yes still does that too
@@ChaosCauses wake up on voice ? (GP hero 9)
magnet? im afRaid it would fly away mid ride
What’s your thoughts on the audio? That clip sounded kind of lackluster no ?
EDIT . DJI's turf,
GoPro left the party several iterations back 👍
@ChaosCauses have you tried or tested a DJI Action Cam before?
Unfortunately not yet
@@ChaosCauses U should, they did most of this before insta360 :P
@@ChaosCauses I usually really like your content but how can you sell a camera without testing one of the biggest competitor in the field. I get that you need money and stuff but man, there are proper ways to do it
@@litare4328 Agreed.
Is the image quality better than the One RS?
Yes! Only having to accomodate one lens means it can be even better at its job.
Yes, it’s a shame they didn’t split the baby and give yes a 6k60 mode though. The new sensor is the same from the dji action 4, it’s superb.
If GoPro adopts it there’s a possibility it will be the first Go Pro that loses specs/capability
Action 4 vs Insta pro? ..hmmm i have to buy some in this week
what did you get
you mf wearing the pando jacket so often, now i need to get one 😊
You use a hero 7???
If it ain’t broke…
@@ChaosCauses try the GoPro 12 (or 11 if you need GPS logs because the 12 lost GPS for extra battery life (I a decide if this is a big deal or not but I don’t like losing features. Clearly they were feeling pressure). The 8:7 recording alone is super cool and useful, can be tuned down to 16:9 but gives you lots of room for activities
And all action cams fail when it comes to providing audio for bikers. Even this one. As soon as you place a lav mic in the helmet, i.e. directly in the chin area, to reduce wind noise and record your own comments, it gets very lonely with the action cams. Not a single action cam can simply plug in a lav mic and deliver clean sound. You need the expensive media mod from GoPro or the new DJI adapter from DJI to get clean audio. Not even the Osmo Action 3 delivers undistorted - i.e. usable - sound. Insta also requires an additional adapter and the sound is disappointing to say the least.
Im having a bad time choosing a camera, since every single review out there has associate links.....
Still prefer GoPro for my 4k footage. Did not like the quality of the Insta360 and returned it.
dunno, is it justified such prices?
I saw wilfred!
Prolly not first since 9 likes.. but uh.. First?
Do Americans hate decimal numbers that much to use 1/1.3“?! Like 1/2 makes sense but at that point just 0.77 inches or 19.5mm
My personal experience with this comanpy and camera (ONE X2) was horrendous.
I would avoid Insta360 like the plague.
Stupid name bro doesn’t film in 360 and connects to my phone Like I need to fill up my iPhones which is already full 🤯
Oh deary me. 🤐
The bike looked great. No denying that.
And STILL no South Africa button on the Insta site to buy these things!
Oh well.
I'll stick with my Hero 2 for now then... 😂😂😂😂
Already on Takealot and Orms Direct.
@@ChaosCauses Nice! Thanks!
1:28 🤣
freeframe is what still cameras SHOULD have done,
yet they are sitting on their ass and blaming others
about their loss of market
I dont know man, i would like more Biker content, not Video producer content.
$450....BARF. I'll stick to my Akaso cameras, thank you.
Good camera but i think the field of view is shit
Too expansive. Why buy it over some other cameras, even when comparing it to other Insta360 cams
Only reason this camera exists is to jump on the AI bandwagon.
4:43 I get this is not a review but this is...questionable? Couldn't you have just gone back and grabbed some footage? You could've charged it a little too since I guarantee you had a usb-c cable on you.
Cool ad👎
Did you really just say "cringy peace sign" while your government is doing more for peace than anybody?