Why Did the Supreme Court Turn Its Back On AR-15 Owners? Justice Thomas Speaks Out!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ก.ค. 2024
- The Supreme Court has once again declined to review the Illinois law banning semi-automatic rifles and Standard-capacity magazines.
Now, why did the Supreme Court refuse to hear this case?
Justice Thomas expressed his disappointment in the denial, emphasizing the importance of the issues at hand.
In his statement, Justice Thomas said, 'The AR-15 is the most popular semi-automatic rifle in America and is therefore undeniably in common use today.
He criticized the Seventh Circuit's decision, stating that it 'illustrates why this Court must provide more guidance on which weapons the Second Amendment covers.
He pointed out the Court's past recognition that the Second Amendment extends to 'all instruments that constitute bearable arms, even those that were not in existence at the time of the founding.
However, he noted that there's still a lack of a comprehensive framework for evaluating restrictions on types of weapons.
Thomas didn't hold back, calling out the Seventh Circuit's logic. He said, 'The AR-15 is a civilian, not military, weapon. No army in the world uses a service rifle that is only semiautomatic.' He also highlighted that Illinois' ban is 'highly suspect because it broadly prohibits common semiautomatic firearms used for lawful purposes.'
So, what does this mean for our Second Amendment rights? Well, by refusing to hear this case, the Supreme Court has basically left the Seventh Circuit's decision in place, at least for now.
This means Illinois can continue enforcing its ban on 'semi-auto rifles,' which concerns me because it sets a precedent that could gas up other states to enact their own Assault weapon bans because they'll see it as open season on Semi-Auto Rifles and Standard Capacity Magazines.
Whatever you do, don’t ever let anyone tell you the Second Amendment doesn’t protect your right to own an AR15.
If there is one gun on this planet that the Second Amendment protects, it is absolutely the AR-15.
Not because the AR-15 was specifically what the framers had in mind when the Second Amendment was drafted, but because the framers were thinking about how to protect the people's right to own the most effective tool to preserve this free state and protect themselves.
At that time, that tool was the musket, and today, that musket is the AR-15.
So Yes, AR-15s are Protected by the Second Amendment.
"A Regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."
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Never give your guns up or register them.
hell yea right on
Always
Word
You’re goddamned right
The weak ones will!
Man they just need to make all of America Constitutional carry. I'm so tired of both party's being unconstitutional.
Illinois will be the absolute last state to let that happen. They didn’t even have conceal carry licenses till like 2014 if I’m not mistaken.
Hawaii. They didn’t start issuing carry permits until last year.
@@aarondmason808thats ironic asf considering how Hawaiians really feel ab the US government.😂
@@OleMisss New Jersey won't ever be constitutional carry, even if forced. You need an FOID to buy and another separate to carry it. Good luck trying to get a concealed carry permit. That state is so anti 2A, they don't allow ammo to be shipped there.
All licenses/permits are unconstitutional therefore illegal and void in violation of the supremacy clause, article 4 section 2 paragraph 1,2nd amendment,10th amendment,14th amendment section 1 combined. No American citizen needs permission from anyone to buy, possess, Cary any weapon (ARMS) anywhere in the united states of America whatsoever.
"shall not be infringed" covers ALL weapons.
All Weapons? Any Weapon?
YUP! What were Privateers? Non Government, Private Owners of War Ships.With Attack Sailors ( Marines) and CANNONS.
No that makes me feel scared so no, your rights don’t exist
noone making sure that is being enforced, so they will continue to slowly chip away at it
"the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed." It's OUR right to keep and bear ANY arm to protect our state and our freedom from tyranny. I personally believe that we should have the right to own ANY firearm including rocket launchers, grenades, fully automatic firearms, tanks and fighter jets. The founding fathers left specifics out because they knew the technology would change. For us to protect ourselves we would need everything that any country's military or the US military would use. They intended for us to be just as armed as the US military. We have become weak and have surrendered that to the government. This is what socialism does. it makes us weak. It says, Hey, let me take care of that for you so you don't have to worry. Just sit back in your armchair and get fat and complacent. We have surrendered too much already. I will abide by the law, but I will also fight through legal channels to take back what the founding fathers intended for us to have. Full freedom to bear ANY arms!
@@gamerelated3887 . Those ARE the EXACT Principles the Founding Fathers Believed in.
Like EVERY other Civil Right, there is only one type of Person Prohibited: DEAD PEOPLE. Which people are DENIED the Freedom of Speech? Which people are DENIED, Freedom of Religion? Etc Etc. only, Dead People. No one else. Founders TRUSTED everyone around them, UNLESS they proved otherwise. Bring in Capitol Punishment. IF, didn't do anything worthy of Execution, You kept all your Rights.
Rockets, Jets, Missiles, grenades etc. YUP! Controlled by The People. Well Regulated Militia. Like the Swiss have today. Minute Men. Citizen Soldiers. Not GOVERNMENT SOLDIERS!
Founders DETESTED Standing Armies. They could be turned on the People. They Cost Lots of Money. ( Taxes?) Used by Politicians to project OFFENSIVE Force. Not civilian DEFENSIVE Force.
What were Privateers? Citizens with their own WAR SHIPS, Right? Founders Delightfully HIRED them to Battle Enemies.
Does ANYONE Believe, If Ar-15/M16 existed, the Founders WOULDN'T, have used them against the British? Or, told everyone/anyone, who could afford them, not to get as MANY, as they could? Why did we build CIVILIAN ARMORIES? Those were OUR Military Grade Weapons. Stockpiled in case of Foreign Invaders, or DOMESTIC insurrection. New York City , alone had over FIFTY, Civilian Armories.. Look it up. They were moved to Government, Military control.
Those laws are unconstitutional on their face and any lawyer who says otherwise should be disbarred.
Since this law violates the Bill of Rights and the Supreme Court decision said they were legal, all those attempting to uphold this law should be arrested.
@@jameylawson8743 You're funny dude, so funny i forgot to laugh.
@@jameylawson8743 paw paw as you called him, will probably put YOU to sleep
You need to back off the soy. Mmmkay?
You think tyrants will throw themselves in jail? Nah what they're doing is illegal and they don't care, they would sooner have there three letter agency hit squads take you out.
They could care less about the only document that makes them anything other than organized crime gang and it's despicable!
@@jameylawson8743Hey fellow bot. I'm clocking out now, have fun.
Illinois is just going to keep continuing to lose population and they will still wonder why that is happening…
Not as much as California has
@@dreadedddd1008 i’m from California and my parents still live in the Bay Area but it’s been a long time since I have even visited there, so I don’t know how much of a population loss they have. Feel free to clue me in if you like.
There are 30 MILLION ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS looking for a safe haven.
its a ploy ti make us leave and te migrants to move in smh
If the state seceded from Chicago and the surrounding counties they'd probably have a lot fewer problems.
Most divisive issue in America and the Supreme court decides to delay it
Probably has to do with the upcoming election. They don't want to make any big decisions before they see who is going to hold the torch.
I don't agree with it, but I can't think of another possible reason why they would delay it.
It's bubbling
Keep a close watch on crime in IL.....it's NOT going to go down.
Sure it is, they'll stop reporting on it. See, it's going down!
These bans violate numerous SCOTUS rulings and the court does not have the balls to say as much.
The Democrat appointed lower court judges know that if they swamp SCOTUS with enough BS rulings, they’ll definitely get some of their unconstitutional rulings to stand when SCOTUS declines to hear a case.
We need to make a list and document which of these judges are partisan actors and swiftly impeach them.
Why should Americans have to suffer at the hands of an “honorable” judge that came out of university believing that all laws are racist and that the entire system needs to be dismantled? Why would anyone expect a judge to uphold laws that they don’t even respect?
the problem is, it doesn't violate anything yet. because as long as they remain interlocutory, nothing has been decided.
which is kind of why SCOTUS is waiting, because if they step in and say "no, A, C, D, E and F are wrong" all you'll get is Illinois fixing the wording and getting what they want and SCOTUS can't take up the case again because they already ruled on it.
@@NoESanity Have you read the law? Fixing the wording would eliminate 99% of it.
Probly got a nice check to keep the games going.
You didn't listen to what was said and don't understand how the court system works or what state this law is in. The court did nothing of the sort.
When the goverment says you cannot Exercise your freedoms. Then it's time for a new government.
"The tree of Liberty" quote applies here rather distinctly for Illinois right now.
@@4evrfree826 I will be in my state this November
@@4evrfree826 you can’t seriously still believe your vote still matters?
Ask the British what happened to them?
Exactly, for the people, by the people!! Not for the gov,by the gov!!!
This is a Constitutional RIGHT and "shale not be infringed" The Supreme Court should defend that right expeditiously.
Bingo
I love how the State likes to pretend like they have no idea what the second amendment means, or the whole bill of rights for that matter
Right??
There's no such thing as a civilian rifle in America. The point of the 2A is to bear the same arms as the authorities
absolutely!
Correct!
What "Authorities" Do you think there were back then? We didnt have a large police force as we do today. Colin maked a point about Muskets at the time that I think you should take another listen to.
And authorities can have literally any weapon in existence.
@michaellangston9668 there's always been an authority ever since the colonies. That's what separated us from the wild savages we defeated. I don't give a shit what you think I should listen to
He said these laws are constitutional, apparently they don't know what Constitutional means: SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!
He also said the are effective, lol
Absolutely brother!
And 14th amendment section 1
NO state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the united states
10th amendment
Nor prohibited by it to the states clause.
Shall not abridge; yet Democrats and Republicans ignore that all the time.
@@dragonf1092
Exactly, the Bill of Rights was intended to only limit the federal government, not the states.
Therefore, restricting guns is only available to the states.
WTH?!
Why can't America simply return to stricter use of the US Constitution?!
Not that hard. "Was" the Law of the Land as I grew up and not suggestions!
Simply sick of the same exact attacks on the 2A over and over and over again! *_"ENOUGH ALREADY!!"_*
Justice Thomas is a hardcore patriot.
Let's not forget that he's openly accepted bribes from billionaire "friends".
@@colinmetzger6755 Good for 2a, bad for everything else. Him and his wife are corrupt.
if 30-round mags are illegal, we should buy them anyway
Right
And then, Man the F-ck up, walk right down to your Local Illinois Police Dept, FBI or ATF Office. And let them know that YOU DID IT ANYWAY...
Glad I got 42 rd mags😊
All their power comes from our willingness to follow the law no matter how unconstitutional or unjust
Do you know someone in a free state that will ship you some? That would be the get around.
SHALL. NOT. BE. INFRINGED.
noone making sure that is being enforced, so they will continue to slowly chip away at it
What are you gonna do about it?
@@JasonNortwich”peacefully protest”
God bless, and protect Justice C. Thomas!
He is definitely bought and paid for.
We must support and defend Justice Thomas to the bitter end.
“A Law repugnant to the Constitution is void.”
- Chief Justice John Marshall
You register privilege. Not rights.
How do I get a Carry Permit for Freedom of Religion? or Free Speech? Where is my Right to a Jury Trial permit? Etc.
hmmm. A seemingly obvious point well summarized.
Meaning?
@@willbrink Meaning? You rode the "short Bus" to school?
So we shouldn't have social security numbers then? That is essentially registering your existence.
Someone needs to start taking judges to court for being anti constitutional.
yes...to court...
Who will judge?
@@tuts40 Eventually God does
@@thehuguenot5615no……….no he doesn’t 😂😂😂😂😂
@@justin8561Agreed. Where was he when we needed him most? He’s forsaken us and we’re on our own.
Do not comply.
the Second Amendment is about protecting our right to bear arms, and that includes AR-15s.
And cannons and flamethrowers. "Ninjie stars and nunchux and tire thumpers, OH MYY!!"
@@thankfullyredeemedmaderigh7436 yep I’ve got grizzly bear arms
It also includes M-16s. We’ve just allowed the other side to take too much ground on the topic.
Does it include nukes too?
Founding Father John Adams even ensured that cannons are protected by the 2nd Amendment
Ahh yes. Making sure that only criminals have them. How progressive.
You can bet the Crips and the Bloods are not going to give up their Mac-10's or 9mils. Regards, Denis Berte' USMC
Just under 80% of all guns used in crimes, came from LEGAL owners.
To put that another way, without LEGAL owners, 80% of criminals would have to get their guns from other countries.
@@BoecifusJonesbig deal Venezuela is a poor country yet the favelas have gun shots all day how do they have guns with strict laws and poor they still have ammo because criminals can be funded and supplied so long as there is demand it will continue🤡
@@BoecifusJones YES, about 86% of violent crimes that involve firearms are already by law "prohibited possessors", so we see how well that's going.
To put *that* in another way, if a person is too dangerous to be in a society with a firearm that protects firearm possession as a human rights (or obligation to self defense), they are too dangerous to be let out of prison. Comprende?
@@troy3456789 most criminals get their guns from corrupt LEGAL dealers, or straw purchases. Often, legal owners sell or give a gun to someone and believe the buyer can legally own one. Technically illegal, but unless a cop is standing right there, we don't have laws to stop it from happening. A national gun registry without the red tape preventing the sharing of information between state and federal government agencies, we'd be able to track who's selling guns illegally.
Sometimes it's the cops themselves, like the former police chief here in Florida who got busted selling his arsenal (some of which he stole from evidence) to the local gangs.
The number of straw purchases have gone up 3x in recent years, and the number of legal owners who go on a shooting spree are going up as well.
Law bidding citizens should have more rights than criminals. So why aren't they enforcing the laws on criminals.
So Government can CONTROL. Capital Punishment, gives us an Honorable , Sterile Society. You can Trust your fellow Citizens. The Problem People get REMOVED.The rest are on CLEAR Notice.
I hope the people of Illinois ignore this unconstitutional ban.
Cant ignore it if we can’t buy firearms we wanna buy
We don't need Permission to exercise our Rights, otherwise it's a privilege.
Paying a fee or tax to exercise our rights is corrupt.
Bingo !
Yet here we are, always asking for permission. Whether its background checks, permits, licenses.......anyways happy 4th lol
@@mikegraves6070 the background check needs to go. Conservatives don't have a right to feel safe. Criminals don't get their arms through background checks, now do they. What is the point of a background check when criminals never even apply for one esp. if the background check is supposed to keep weapons out of the hands of criminals🤣🤣🤣🤣. Make it make sense conservatives. How about the digital ID or voter ID? The right to vote is a right not a licensed privilege.
Right why does something need to be “common use” to be permitted? It’s like they are saying “well since we weren’t paying attention while you peasants did something, I guess we have to let it slide”
What part of "shall not be infringed" is so hard for 9 of the most educated people on the planet to understand...
They might be the most educated, but they're not necessarily educated from QUALITY sources.
Not to mention three of them are incompetent affirmative action/wokeness appointments.
8, but your point stands. Outside of Thomas, they should all be impeached.
Maybe they under something you don't
@@joemcnulty6814 They do not.
@@PhotriusPyrelus there's a process and it's not ripe yet
Why anyone would choose to live in Illinois is beyond me. 🇺🇸
What part of "Shall Not be Infringed" is it not possible to understand.
The second amendment is absolute.
Yes it is a inalienable right.
Inalienable
Cannot be taken away from or given away by the possessor.
No, it's not. Or do you honestly think that people should be permitted to have their own tactical nukes? No right is absolute.
@@SmallSpoonBrigade look up the meaning of the word inalienable therefore yes the second amendment right is absolute.
@@SmallSpoonBrigade Strawman argument for trolls.
We will not comply
I second that no pun intended lmao
I lost it in a boating accident
Of course you will. You'll do just as you're told.
Really, so exactly WHAT will you not comply with...And as a "true" believer, will you walking into a Chicago Police Station, FBI or ATF office Carrying your AR15 and Hi Cap mags and Let Them Know, "You Won't Comply!!!"
@@davidsanchez9674 nah, that's just being radical
Until we the people stand up, they will continue this!
Justice Thomas is the best justice we have ever had! Live long my friend!!!!
Illinois has trapped the case into interlocutory status and will not let it leave.
Yea and it's being ignored by IL citizens too.😅
@@jpman9795 Glock switch laws are being ignored as well, probably in an ammount worthy of being called common use, but they say it’s illegal to posses there by artificially knocking off the for lawful purpose end of common use. What is ATF doing about it? Promoting AWB’s.
Bingo Mark from 4 box diner bought that up
Not really, since the video didn't say it I'll let you know why scotus didn't touch it,right now they set a date for September to hear the case based on the merits,that is going to be in the southern district of Illinois. That judge is VERY pro 2A, he will undoubtedly rule AGAINST the state. Afterwards it will most likely be appealed to the 7th (circus) circuit and knowing them they will rule in favor of the state and THEN it will be fair game for scotus to take. As an Illinois resident that is the most likely path UNLESS the 2 judges that are anti 2A on the 7th wise up and take Thomas and Alitos words to heart and rule in favor of the people (doubtful) but that is the ONLY reason they haven't touched it yet.
@@olivercook8711 I hope it is not a rare occurrence. Chevron difference is just now out of the way. I understand the point of the presidents for a case on that level. But I don’t understand the presidents of a case for those rights.
Semi-automatic rifles (the Belton flintlock), fully-automatic machineguns (the Chambers gun), and grenade launchers existed when the Constitution was written. If they were supposed to be banned for civilians, they could have been. They weren't.
don't forget the Windbüchse, Air guns that could silently fire half a dozen or more shots with lethal accuracy that made muskets look like cheap toys. The founding fathers were all fans of the windbüchse, having outfitted lewis and Clark with multiple. it was just too expensive to arm an entire military with them.
@@NoESanity Well, big-bore airguns are still legal in almost every state, including Kalifornia. I don't know if any restrict their ownership, though some restrict hunting with them.
The "in common use" standard may protect AR15s, but it also creates the grounds for banning full-auto, drum mags, and whatever innovations come next. We shouldn't settle for that.
@@NoESanity yep its really awesome air rifle
@@BacteriophagebsIdaho considers airguns guns in some counties. They include air as a propellant to define firearm in some of the southern counties. Black powder will also get you locked up happened to a guy who then appealed. If you can own guns it’s very free. Conceal carry allowed over 21 etc. I still got my ccw for traveling to different states though
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!!! Don’t give up your God given right as an American period
Cowards. The court has no balls, they care more about process than they do about your rights.
As soon as the 7th circuit sends that back to SCOTUS, Justice Thomas is going to destroy weapon and ammo bans forever
That's the secret: They won't send it back. They'll hold it in interlocutory posture *for decades* if they must.
@@TheZombieburner
And there you have it.
That could take years.
That was a really good joke, man. Funniest I've heard all year.
He won’t be on the bench by then!
THANK YOU for calling them what they are, *standard capacity magazines.*
Clarence Tomas is a National Treasure , And should be recognized as such , God Bless Justice Tomas !!!
The Supreme Court overturned Chicago's handgun ban in McDonald and DC's ban in Heller, but they allow the semiautomatic rifle ban in Illinois.
2nd Amendment. "Shall not be infringed."
Well... ain't that some unconstitutional shit...
Amen🙏🏻 Your words coincide with mine 110%! I love hearing someone that sounds like myself with a bit more intellect. Thank you for being a fellow American Patriot. We’re growing in numbers and welcome more to our growing list of people who know our country needs more honest decent people to step up and protect the greatest country the planet has ever seen. But we all know their have been traitors from within who sabotage our potential for possibly evil or greedy reasons. I welcome anyone who wants this country to excel and to flourish to its fullest capabilities. And just as important is our God given rights to protect ourselves and our families and friends. I have never understood how so called Americans can try to do everything they can to undermine the constitution as if they themselves were Karl Marx and Adolf Hitler in the flesh. We have to band together the best we can to keep and preserve our rights especially the first two but all of our rights as well!
Clearance Thomas is the best judge we've had in a century.
Thomas can't WAIT to get his hands on this case!
Too bad it'll be tied up in the appellate for years because 2A organizations are keeping the merry-go-round going because there's no money in resolving this.
The jumped the gun, no pun intended, by sending up to SCOTUS before it was completed.
Now the lower courts get to play their games for years on end thanks to greedy fkn lawyers. Keep those donations coming!! 🙄
Don't delude yourselves.
Unfortunately he can apparently
@@weirdguync The way court works, otherwise every half baked case that is undecided will beg for the SCOTUS to take it up before a lower court decision is ever made. Making the lower courts do their job is the right call, otherwise there should be no state courts and everthing should be federal.
I understand they like to wait . The problem is these unconstitutional laws go into effect and the cops do the governors bidding enforcing, meanwhile being exempt from them . We are going on 11 years here in CT.
@@inyourdefense0 Thomas is old he may not be around to help settle this case if we wait much longer
This will require the people of Illinois to take matters into their own hands and rid themselves of the fascists making these state laws, this will solve the problem!
There are 40rds, even 50rds and 60rds drum mags out there, which we ALL should have! 🇺🇸Shall NOT be infringed💪
"you haven't spent enough money on lawyers to get your rights yet" is what I heard.
Justice delayed is justice denied! Some of us aren’t getting any younger here! I live in a blue state, and I’m tired of being a second class citizen in my own damn country. If the Supreme Court doesn’t start standing up for our constitutional rights, the people will! Don’t push us. Remember politicians and gov’t officials, this time, you won’t have a Britain to run back to….
Send that resume to a red state. No reason to send the locals any more of your tax dollars every year or tolerate their bullshit.
@@CivilizedWarrior Your interpretation of your rights do not apply to the rest of the country. Stop talking like bully and realize constitutional rights are for the other 330 million people as well, NOT JUST YOU.
...and your interpretation of "privileges" does not apply only to you!
Exactly
@@warrenp.5916 I stand up for all Americans constitutional rights. What constitutional right did I imply I didn’t agree with? You should be able to own a gun if you want to as well. You have free speech. The right to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures. Sorry for you and your bleeding heart, but nowhere in the constitution does it guarantee your right to safety, at the expense of my rights to defend myself. If you want this to be an amendment, good luck, start lobbying for it. Please, elaborate, and tell me what constitutional right of yours that I am violating?
Thomas is the only one I respect
That's why the Democrats are trying so hard to get rid of him, he is a Constitutional Judge.
@@betsyburns1825 He's the most crooked.
WHY? Explain it from A to Z...Other than He is fairly Conservative leaning, WHY? Are you OK with him and his wife Taking Money, Vacations, Perks, violating LAW? Regardless of whether you Liked Anita Hill, she proved beyond a Shadow of a doubt that Thomas ------------Her.
@@davidsanchez9674
Okay, not to be politically partisan on the Anita Hill bit, but I’m pretty sure she just made allegations and that there wasn’t any evidence beyond that.
When you come out of the blue with allegations like this, without having reported it at any earlier point in time, it _reeks_ of suspicion and bias. If Thomas was, indeed, accepting all of these large sums of gifts as reported, then he should be impeached and removed - along with any other judges that partook in such activities. I have a hard time believing MSM accusations at face value, especially since they still have egg all over their faces after being exposed for their anti-Trump disinformation campaigns, but if it’s the truth and can be undoubtedly proven, Thomas must go.
Pretty big fan of Gorsuch also tbh.
Clarance Thomas is the back bone of America, I’ve been saying this for years.
Just because it's on paper and they say it's law doesn't mean we have to follow up. Per the 1866 Madison ruling " any law which is repugnant to the constitution is null and void" also " no president, nor act of Congress, nor any judiciary branch may grant permission to subvert the constitution"
Shall NOT be infringed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Shall not be infringed" not the case now is it.
Government is corrupt and people are weak which is why they are getting away with infringement.
Free men don’t ask permission to exercise their rights
tell that to the Badged gangbangers.
It seems people have been grabbing their ankles for tyranny long before I was born.
Then some people don't deserve to be free.
Nah they just happily follow the rules. Your guns are registered.
@@madtabby66 Whose?
It's our duty as free Americans to disobey unconstitutional laws. Noncompliance is the only way
This is unconstitutional smh.😢😢
The supreme court is such a Rollercoaster I'm pretty sure they make all decisions by spinning the wheel
dont forget palm greasing
E plata, el plumba?
Roberts has been Blackmailed pictures of Roberts on Epsteins boat
No, they know EXACTLY what they are doing. They make just enough pro gun decisions to keep Patriots placated until it's too late.
@@teresamoore15 Silver & Lead, (Google translation did not work.)
Very stupid of the Supreme Court's decsions not to take up this case.
Did you actually listen to the video?
Well, the SC likes to be the last word on something so if a case still has to wend it's way through lower courts, they're going to do that. Yeah, they should just cut to the chase and stop this Illinois stupidity but there you go.
@@darkzak47 If they didn't wait until all other cases had finished, all other remedies are exhausted, they would have a flood of everyone asking for a ruling on half baked cases with no researched background, like the Trump cases. They weren't ready for prime time and were rushed. You don't rush them. Sucks that people are being treated illegally in the mean time. Maybe they should take up a case that measures the ability of the citizens to not comply with unlawful demands?
@@Qingeaton When it comes to CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS, they should NOT allow 'all other cases to furnish (misspelling on purpose to show how stupid this viewpoint is)'.
They should immediately pluck out the cases and be very clear and very exhaustive in their rulings to make it clear that 'shall not be infringed' means EXACTLY THAT: NO restrictions on the arms that the average citizen can own full stop. That includes 'felons' and 'dangerous people' unless adjudicated as dangerous by the courts.
And even then those 'dangerous people' should never have been released from prison in the first place if they think they are still dangerous.
@@chiliff107A I'm no lawyer (thank God), but it seems to me if the SCOTUS rules on it now, before it fully plays out in lower courts, SCOTUS's ruling is at a greater risk of being overturned down the road. If they wait until the case is exhausted at the level of the lower courts, the SCOTUS ruling is pretty much bulletproof.
The constitution isn't just protection. It is LAW. We are a Constitutional Republic. Democracy wears many faces
Nah, there are 40rds, even 50rds and 60rds drum mags out there, which we ALL should have! 🇺🇸Shall NOT be infringed💪
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I still remember watching Judge Thomas’s confirmation hearings and the abysmal treatment of him. It’s when my deep disgust of Biden began.
Mine started day one in office 😢
St. Thomas
I didn't know who Biden was until 2007. But I hated the senator who attacked Justice Thomas, not knowing it was Brandon.
@@PaintedSkyDweller It should have started in 1991.
@@Imme_begin Judge Thomas left the DNC plantation and they hate him becasue of that.
I also love the fact that Justice Thomas is pissing Biden off. I remember how he treated Justice Thomas at the hearing
They shouldn’t be allowed to say “they won’t look at it.”
In what world would you expect the government to side with the people when it comes to having real power?
2A also includes blades. Banning knives because of dimensions or unfolding methods is also unconstitutional.
The last SCOTUS decision on 'common use' for firearms - there is NO SUCH CLAUSE IN THE 2A !!! Someone just pulled it out of their ass and made a ruling!
The 2A says shall not be infringed and it doesn't make any distinction if the firearm is used by 1 person, 10 people, 100,000 people - it makes no difference and certainly doesn't make any difference if it was or is IN COMMON USE!!!
Thank you. Been saying the same thing. Many legitimate arms are not in common use.
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Perhaps some of the justices in trying to explain the 2A to the liberals on the bench came up with this 'common use' definition! That's just a pile of horse manure. It can be any firearm, common or just a one-off, it is protected by the 2A!
If the law is subject to interpretation, then it is being violated. It is very clear and no where does the 2A say 'subject to interpretation - by anyone, SCOTUS or otherwise!!!
And the SCOTUS keeps throwing these legal challenges back down to the lower courts to be re-litigated / re-evaluated! Just make a ruling that the IL assault weapons ban is UNCONSTITUTIONAL! And lower courts in the future will get the message that if they can read the 2A, then the should already know what the answer is before it even goes to court!
The SCOTUS can make it perfectly clear - violating the 2A will not be tolerated!!! Instead, they make the wishy washy ruling by throwing many back down to the lower courts!
Just because the Supreme Court has decided not to hear the case doesn't mean the law 'legal and constitutional'. That's a pretty extreme leap of logic but not out of character for the fearmongers.
Thomas is the best Supreme court judge we have.
In 1776, the Pennsylvania long gun was a military rifle, and was one of the most commonly used rifles by the citizens!
Justice noir to Supreme Court one day?
Justice Noir from TX and Justice Armed Scholar from CA 😂
@@dchiznit209 don’t forget the honorable Justices Herrera and GarandThumb.
@@dchiznit209Armed Scholar is awful. James Reeves from TFB TV, William T Kirk from Washington Gun Law, Mark Smith from Four Boxes Diner, Tom Grieve, The Armed Attorneys... anyone but him in my opinion. I'm sure he's a great guy, but he is painful to listen to.
If people only strangled people and the murder rate went up what would they ban ,hands?
Imagine following 2a restriction laws
Thomas is the best one. That's why they demonize him constantly from the beginging..
Justice Thomas is a very wise man and is absolutely a staunch defender of the constitution, as it is written. I think he will go down in history as one of the best justices of our lifetime
Despite his corruption?
Shall not be infringed.
Sick of SCOTUS not doing their job
Shall Not Be Infringed!
Who's trying to disarm the national guard?
@@SmallSpoonBrigadeso all of the bill of rights are talking to civilians except the second amendment?
@@SmallSpoonBrigade Having trouble with reading and comprehension? What a S.A.L.L.I.
@@SmallSpoonBrigadeok let me expand on what the original post said
“The right of the PEOPLE to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed”
Stress on the word “PEOPLE”
The National Guard is a government entity and, strictly speaking, is not the PEOPLE.
The “PEOPLE” in the case of most constitutional amendments refers to the individual citizen’s rights.
Clearance Thomas certainly is the best justice on the court, the others barely even come close.
By far. The next best is Alito.
On the 2A he is. He's had some dumb takes on other issues over the years though.
Clarence Thomas…
Justice Thomas really needs way more credit than what he gets. The dude has been a life saver in the courts for a while now.
"and they're effective.", there is no evidence that those laws are effective.
This "law" is not constitutional.
Explain it. Show you Constitutional Law education and experience. Explain It. if you say something, Back it up,,,,
@@davidsanchez9674 Arguments from authority are fallacies for a reason. Don't be in a rush to prove you are ignorant. 2a covers all weapons period.
@davidsanchez9674 Do you understand that purchasing a full auto rifle only requires a tax stamp you pay to the government? So it's only illegal to have one unless you purchase and register it through the government.
@@CD-vb9fi That is an absolute lie. That has never in the entire history of this country been the case, and even with the massive expansion to the interpretation of the 2nd amendment in recent decades, still not true. The 2nd amendment was always about the national guard and policing agencies.
That being said, grenades, RPGs, nukes, switchblades, gravity knifes, tanks, daisy cutters etc., are not now legal really anywhere, and some of those things have never been legal for possession or use by private individuals.
It's kind of amazes me that there's so much ignorance on the pro-2nd amendment side about what precisely the text means.
I would argue that this law as well as most firearm law most definitely is unconstitutional. There are no exceptions, other than due process following a conviction at trial, for natural rights. You don't need permission to exercise any other right. Do you ask permission to worship or not worship? Do you ask permission to vote or not vote? Do you ask permission for legal counsel or not to have such counsel? Do you ask permission to not incriminate yourself or to incriminate yourself? Further, the 2nd Amendment applies to all arms and not exclusively to firearms! People need to learn how to read plain English!
Agreed! Justice Thomas is the man!
Yup! He got hisself paid! White folk giving him gifts and trips 24/7. Thug life!
How many crimes are committed w AR15s vs other weapons?
They did not pay him off enough to do that.
It doesn't matter if they're semi auto or full auto, the military and government agencies have full auto so we should absolutely have them as well.
The "in common use" standard may protect AR15s, but it also creates the grounds for banning full-auto, drum mags, and whatever innovations come next. We shouldn't settle for that.
I take it a step further and say that if the government has tanks, we should have access to those as well. It may sound crazy, but there is a precedent for something similar in regards to cannons. Anything over .50 caliber came under ATF restrictions in 1968, but cannons (so long as they’re properly taxed and registered, of course) have never been specifically outlawed. Which brings me to my point-if the government can have it, we should too, even if we’re talking about a tank. I get that it’s not exactly “practical”, but in principle, it’s absolutely in alignment with the founders intentions. It’s too bad that decades of propaganda have warped ppls thinking, and a century or two of government infringements on our rights, abuses of power, wars of aggression, and political persecution of anyone it deems a threat to its own existence has failed to make skeptics out of them. Somehow, they don’t trust their neighbor with an AR-15, but they trust their government with destructive power on a level they can’t truly comprehend, despite the countless examples of that government acting in its own self interest at the expense of the ppl it’s sworn to protect. I’ve never understood it.
The importance of "is it civilian or military" is because of the "assault weapon ban" of 1950, the only time ANY gun control passed the SC. The SC said "Well, the 2nd is about a militia, therefore non-military weapons are not protected. And no military uses short barrel shotguns, therefore they are not protected"... in a case were the President pardoned the plaintiff, therefore no one could argue against the ban, and the one SC judge that had frontline experience "recused himself" after getting an advance on a book deal (IE, bribed).
And the argument is BS: The "trench sweeper" was a short barrel shotgun that was so effective in WW1 that Germany tried to have it banned as a weapon of mass destruction.
And the argument against AR-15 is the same BS: "No military uses weapons without full auto capability, therefore semi-auto is not protected"... what the *** is the M-1 Garand? Any sniper rifle? The DARN M-16A2 is only burst fire FFS, and no one uses the burst setting!
And when throughout history have their turned on citizens? How many citizens have turned on each other with their convenient freedom?
@@denverlilly3669 what you're asking for is a history lesson. Millions upon millions have fallen victim to their own governments and their police/military forces through history. At the low end estimates of losses to communist governments alone are 60 million and many believe that number is really above 100 million.
Justice Thomas did the right thing.
He's giving the Federal Court guidance to make it right but if and when it comes back to SCOTUS AR-15 &other semiautomatic weapons that are in common use will be legal.
The 2A should protect the M-16 not just the AR-15
Justice delayed is justice denied.
It is obvious the most of the justices mistook our meaning. We didn’t ask them to hear the case. WE ORDERED THEM TO THROW OUT THE LAW! PERIOD! No one gets a say in this!
I still to this day. Do not understand why the Supreme Court hasn't said anything about the wording "shall not be infringed." It seems like that alone would be negate. Any argument that any people against the second amendment would ever be able to make about getting rid of it.
I think that the Heller decision (I think it was Heller) is what is ultimately going to fix all this. We are going through the growing pains, of getting all the inferior courts to understand, accept, and use it - THEN, in time, legislators will eventually do so. I think that SCOTUS is trying to do so cleanly, rather than allowing themselves to be caught up in a game of Whack A Mole with every anti-2A law writer in the country.
@@TeranRealtor Yeah but I think in this case SCOTUS could achieve the same results using Webster's Dictionary.
They have. Both Heller and Bruen cover these arms.
If you ask me, gun shops need to start vetting customers more. Having a pulse doesn't mean you should own a gun.
@denverlilly3669 they actually do check out customers, and deny a purchase if they feel there's something wrong. But it's a Constitutional right, and if they pass their NICS check, they can buy the firearm
Why can these states pass these laws at the drop of a hat but we have to fight like he'll to overturn them over years. Why is this not the other way around, taking years to institute these laws. Tired of this bullshit.
If it was so affirming, why did SCOTUS vacate the ruling and remand the case back to be retried?
Do not register your firearms…..just look north to see what WILL happen in time.
Keep the faith….
umm. you realise all guns in Illinois are already registered via F.O.I.D card. and for all 50 states if you get a background check the ATF was caught compiling all background check forms since the 90s and has a database of over 1 billion guns
@callsignjoker2686 exactly why you should learn about basic gunsmithing and build your own. From 1911 to Mp5 can all be built at home and be untraceable as far as having a serial number.
Is this or is this not still AMERICA?
Because of a gun
What a clown
sadly it looks lik it isnt hence why a number of veterans are jumping ship my retired superior told m on the way out to get out this aint the america we fought for anymore
Yes, in the USA we have laws.
@@loganfignewtonand many in severK states a unconstitutional ; therefore should not be obeyed.
@@loganfignewton Yeah we also have the bill of rights and the Constitution
Imagine following any law that directly opposes the constitution…
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!