Looks good the only issue is if the motor shuts down from overload or whatever, propane is still pumping into the carb fyi. That's why they use a vacuum regulator that opens the gas when the engine creates a vacuum in the regulator and shuts it off when the engine stops
Kind Sir you done well. And the main thing you did; was to end your narrative with, "God bless". ❤it...and I will say this,; may Jesus (The only True God Almighty, there will ever be) bless you and yours always.
I did this to a riding mower and I had 5 bucks into the whole shebang but I later installed what's called a backfire valve, and they can be purchased at a welding supply store ( Norco, oxarc,) on the west side of the USA. This valve is installed on cutting torches.using propane as a cutting gas. and it's nothing more than a way to prevent a 🔥 or explosion should your engine backfire through the carb. by the way my mower was 18 horse power and it mowed grass just fine. I set my throttle at 3/4 open and used the on / off valve as a fuel increase/ decrease. good luck! to who ever try's this method and as a foot note it works best on engines that don't need constant throttle adjustment
So, you walk away, the sparking plug fails or any other part of the ignition system fails, LPG carries on blowing into the air intake. You come back, turn on the light and .....BOOM!!! It needs an automatic shut of valve in that event.
I think I will stick to my own idea and just change over to a tri fuel carb.. It's worth the $25.00 - $30.00. I haven't liked loud noises since I got back from Nam. Definitely need an on demand regulator for safety reasons. I think I would sleep better too.
I did same thing with my generator after Sandy hit nj. I love the fact I will not have to smell gas anymore. The right way to do the conversion would be to get garretson on demand regulator ($70 on ebay) and Are going to need larger hose since propane with be sucked into carburetor. Your conversion works but you can not walk away it is a time bomb they will blow.
Dennis Evers Install a 110vac solenoid in your gas line and a valved by-pass for starting. Plug solenoid to generator and when it starts generating power close by pass. If the engine dies power loss will close solenoid, shutting off any gas .
NO, It is in a tiny vented metal out building, and I don't leave it unattended. It is only run to fill a water tank which takes a few minutes..It is a dedicated generator for the well pump only.
When the generator is under load, how does it get more fuel to compensate, like a Gas engine's butterfly valve? It seems like you would have low efficiency if you burn the same amount of propane all the time.
Use the govoner ..it already opens or closes air intake ... run a linkage to a fuel valve on the propane.. make the valve open and close with n the carb air intake ..just have to get it to idle then at more throttle hold the wire from gov.. to beside fuel valve handle .. then with gov.. open start to open fuel valve handle until you get the result you want.. hook the gov.. wire linkage to the fuel valve at that adj . .. .
MrKellysnodgrass The solenoid has a valve inside that shuts off the flow of gas when power from the generator quits. The solenoid is plugged into one of the generator power outlets. Hope this helps..
yeah you could just use a simple on that uses the generators electricity.... that way if the generator goes wonky there is no power to the solenoid and no gas flow I was wondering what regulator he used and what Inches of flow
Hi the problem with that is that, you'd never be able to start the generator without power to open the solenoid. You'd need a solenoid with a mechanical override to open it on startup, but once power is lost again would close it. Or plumb in a bypass around the solenoid, for startup, but don't forget to close the bypass once its running. Still not idiot proof, but close!
It would be a Good Idea to Check Engine Speed so that 60 Cycles can be Checked--All Houses in America Run Off that Frequency from Production Power Plants...
Why? Why? why all the bending & soldering & working to do a simple 5 min job? Drill hole in air filter or use crank case return vent, (older genset models use vent), cut hose, press cut end on carb vent hole, apply hose other end to propane container of your choosing( a variable propane turkey fryer hose/regulator) turn on gas at bottle, regulate w/ valve, voila! 5-10min tops. Not using carb vent? Drill hole in air filter box behind filter element ( engine side) get brass fitting, 3/8" x 1/4"compression, hole sized to fitting, open air box remove filter element, poke fitting into air box, thread on compression fitting with 1 1/2"x 1/4" copper tubing attached, RTV around inside & outside of gas fitting, Voila, maybe 15-30 min. This works with natural gas as well with slight modification to the gas end connection, obviously wouldn't use a propane hose but the genset end works for both. Not knocking your vid, just 2 different ways of doing same thing. Good Luck & God Bless!
@@evers0537 I liked your video but you should have said you have to make sure you're generator is running if it stops running and the gas valve is on all the propane tank will empty out. Thanks for the video
@@Dishtech48 only if you keep adding propane... gasoline has more avail energy than propane or lp gas one plus one . It's simple math.. gasoline goes farther
Propane is the way to go--Gasoline will not last very long since the addition of Alcohol to fuel, maybe several months--Propane will Last forever and the engine will run Much Cleaner extending oil changes...
Anyone how what happens to the cylender head valves from runing LP, i had a low mileage engine with rebuilt heads, the owner siad it was from running propane.
+Dennis Evers Hello Dennis. Hey, i purchased a Powerland 4,000/4,500 w 7.5 hp gas generator.Can it be converted to lpg/propane? And if so? What or which type/kind ofconversion kit should i use for it? Thanks Soo Much & God Bless You!! P.S. Please reply ASAP If you can!! Thanks again.
it says my comment was 6 years ago, im not sure when i did it, well out here propane is more expensive then gas could ever get, i did here there going to dishout the bio till you quit everything internal explosion,
Tony, I don't know the specs, I am going to try an adjustable regulator shortly as it will allow me to fine tune it by running it rich then backing off.
BE CAREFUL . As your propane bottle gets low, it will lean out and make your engine run hot and you could burn out the valves on your engine. NOT GOOD . Just make sure your not running low on propane
Please don’t do this!!! Without an on demand LP regulator there will be no governor throttle control to maintain speed under load and worse yet and deadly dangerous is that if the motor stalls under load, the LP continues to flow and can blow up your house!!!!!
run the same load on both for the same duration. which used more of your hard earned dollars at your local prices for each? that will be the LESS economical alternative. if it costs 5 bucks to run a pump for 12 hours with gas (petrol), and 4 bucks to run the same pump for the same amount of time on propane, the propane is the more efficient per buck. that gives you "real world results" for your actual conditions, soup to nuts (assuming it will be running the pump, of course). you can do the same test the "other way", by buying a BBQ can of propane, and jerry cans of gasoline of the same cost total. run the genny under your normal loads expected, and keep track of hours of use per fuel reserve (gas and propane individually accounted). which fuel gave most hours for the single "fuel price" is the most economical (buck efficient). if prices go far from the current spread, you can always repeat periodically to insure current economic bliss. that gives you EXACT "apples to apples real world for you" custom results entirely weighted to your local fuel costs, that will HAVE to be reflected in your everyday use (as that was the "test duty cycle" used). play with a slide rule all day long, you will never get more accurate results than that, lol.
I think he was hoping to get an answer from someone else who tried it. From other articles, the fuel cost is similar, but not having to refresh the fuel every three months makes the big difference.
Very unsafe. When your engine dies you still have all that propaine shooting in your engine. Make shure you you are aware of that. I would invest in a low presure regulator that is made to shut off the propane when the engine dies or not running
Looks good the only issue is if the motor shuts down from overload or whatever, propane is still pumping into the carb fyi. That's why they use a vacuum regulator that opens the gas when the engine creates a vacuum in the regulator and shuts it off when the engine stops
Thanks, good to know, just went through a storm and lost power for a day, had water though, worked like a charm.
Yes, You can get regulators and kits online for LPG conversions.
Kind Sir you done well. And the main thing you did; was to end your narrative with, "God bless". ❤it...and I will say this,; may Jesus (The only True God Almighty, there will ever be) bless you and yours always.
May GOD bless you Dennis as you things , ive tried on golf cart but not with smaller regular
Don's Garage 7bh
I did this to a riding mower and I had 5 bucks into the whole shebang but I later installed what's called a backfire valve, and they can be purchased at a welding supply store ( Norco, oxarc,) on the west side of the USA. This valve is installed on cutting torches.using propane as a cutting gas. and it's nothing more than a way to prevent a 🔥 or explosion should your engine backfire through the carb. by the way my mower was 18 horse power and it mowed grass just fine. I set my throttle at 3/4 open and used the on / off valve as a fuel increase/ decrease. good luck! to who ever try's this method and as a foot note it works best on engines that don't need constant throttle adjustment
So, you walk away, the sparking plug fails or any other part of the ignition system fails, LPG carries on blowing into the air intake. You come back, turn on the light and .....BOOM!!! It needs an automatic shut of valve in that event.
I think I will stick to my own idea and just change over to a tri fuel carb.. It's worth the $25.00 - $30.00. I haven't liked loud noises since I got back from Nam. Definitely need an on demand regulator for safety reasons. I think I would sleep better too.
I did same thing with my generator after Sandy hit nj. I love the fact I will not have to smell gas anymore. The right way to do the conversion would be to get garretson on demand regulator ($70 on ebay) and Are going to need larger hose since propane with be sucked into carburetor. Your conversion works but you can not walk away it is a time bomb they will blow.
Understood, it is a dedicated genset for the water pump and only runs 8-10 minutes under adult supervision.
Dennis Evers
Install a 110vac solenoid in your gas line and a valved by-pass for starting. Plug solenoid to generator and when it starts generating power close by pass. If the engine dies power loss will close solenoid, shutting off any gas .
A areas which I've read say a regulator is needed and to adjust the air fuel mixture
@@halo281474 Thank you because I was looking at adding the auto shut off.
NO, It is in a tiny vented metal out building, and I don't leave it unattended. It is only run to fill a water tank which takes a few minutes..It is a dedicated generator for the well pump only.
Great idea and it leaves the Gasoline option on if you choose to run with it.
Thanks.
Hi Dennis, I was wondering if I could stick the tank end of that hose up my rear, and use my own gas to power that generator?
But you'd have to take Mr. Potatohead out.
@@itsruf1 and the gerbal
That conversion kit should work and its free
When the generator is under load, how does it get more fuel to compensate, like a Gas engine's butterfly valve? It seems like you would have low efficiency if you burn the same amount of propane all the time.
Use an on-demand regulator according to a comment above.
Thanks, I will take a look at that.
so just buy a kit since the regulator seems to be the most expensive part of a conversion?
Use the govoner ..it already opens or closes air intake ... run a linkage to a fuel valve on the propane.. make the valve open and close with n the carb air intake ..just have to get it to idle then at more throttle hold the wire from gov.. to beside fuel valve handle .. then with gov.. open start to open fuel valve handle until you get the result you want.. hook the gov.. wire linkage to the fuel valve at that adj . .. .
Do you have a regulator on the propane / lpg bottle ?
Use a vacuum three way shutoff that will shut the gas off if the engine stops running, on amazon for about ten bucks. Thanks for the video.
Link?
Great video! Thanks for sharing it.
Might add a in-line solenoid in case the motor quits, the solenoid will shut the gas flow off automatically.
That was my concern. Can you elaborate?
MrKellysnodgrass The solenoid has a valve inside that shuts off the flow of gas when power from the generator quits. The solenoid
is plugged into one of the generator power outlets. Hope this helps..
yeah you could just use a simple on that uses the generators electricity.... that way if the generator goes wonky there is no power to the solenoid and no gas flow
I was wondering what regulator he used and what Inches of flow
Hi the problem with that is that, you'd never be able to start the generator without power to open the solenoid. You'd need a solenoid with a mechanical override to open it on startup, but once power is lost again would close it. Or plumb in a bypass around the solenoid, for startup, but don't forget to close the bypass once its running. Still not idiot proof, but close!
Very cool
You mean gasoline to propane conversion, right?
It would be a Good Idea to Check Engine Speed so that 60 Cycles can be Checked--All Houses in America Run Off that Frequency from Production Power Plants...
You won't lose any of the volume of flow. Not just flow.
Why? Why? why all the bending & soldering & working to do a simple 5 min job? Drill hole in air filter or use crank case return vent, (older genset models use vent), cut hose, press cut end on carb vent hole, apply hose other end to propane container of your choosing( a variable propane turkey fryer hose/regulator) turn on gas at bottle, regulate w/ valve, voila! 5-10min tops. Not using carb vent? Drill hole in air filter box behind filter element ( engine side) get brass fitting, 3/8" x 1/4"compression, hole sized to fitting, open air box remove filter element, poke fitting into air box, thread on compression fitting with 1 1/2"x 1/4" copper tubing attached, RTV around inside & outside of gas fitting, Voila, maybe 15-30 min. This works with natural gas as well with slight modification to the gas end connection, obviously wouldn't use a propane hose but the genset end works for both. Not knocking your vid, just 2 different ways of doing same thing. Good Luck & God Bless!
+Dan Roy Calm down it's just a different way to do the same job.
With the conversion to lp gas, do you expect to get longer running time? Thanks for sharing your work.
LP has fewer BTU's than gas, but is cleaner, easier on the equipment and stores for years without any degradation. You are most welcome.
@@evers0537 I liked your video but you should have said you have to make sure you're generator is running if it stops running and the gas valve is on all the propane tank will empty out. Thanks for the video
Yes it does run longer on LP than Gas..
@@Dishtech48 only if you keep adding propane... gasoline has more avail energy than propane or lp gas one plus one . It's simple math.. gasoline goes farther
Did you have to do anything to make it not take gasoline and LP at the same time or does it matter?
The gas tank should have a shutoff. You don’t want to mix it.
Propane is the way to go--Gasoline will not last very long since the addition of Alcohol to fuel, maybe several months--Propane will Last forever and the engine will run Much Cleaner extending oil changes...
Hi, do you think this method may work on a Quantum engine, the vertical one !
Anyone how what happens to the cylender head valves from runing LP, i had a low mileage engine with rebuilt heads, the owner siad it was from running propane.
Well even on generators ment for lp gas the heads will still rust.
Cool
uea but put it under a full load and see what happens
Thanks, I have full tanks and roll them over to the BBQ when they are at 1/4.
+Dennis Evers Hello Dennis. Hey, i purchased a Powerland 4,000/4,500 w 7.5 hp gas generator.Can it be converted to lpg/propane? And if so? What or which type/kind ofconversion kit should i use for it? Thanks Soo Much & God Bless You!! P.S. Please reply ASAP If you can!! Thanks again.
+bill powers Bill,There are kits online for sale, other than that I don't have specifics.Thanks
it says my comment was 6 years ago, im not sure when i did it, well out here propane is more expensive then gas could ever get, i did here there going to dishout the bio till you quit everything internal explosion,
I tried a similar experiment last week and failed. i used some 1/4 tube, i think too small and haven't fixed it yet
Louis Anderson and 5
Dennis where you just using an 11 inch pressure regulator?
Tony, I don't know the specs, I am going to try an adjustable regulator shortly as it will allow me to fine tune it by running it rich then backing off.
Does propane last longer than gasoline, how many hours can you get from a full propane tank, like the grill ones?
Propane never goes bad.
@@platinumsky845 thanks that helps
@@platinumsky845 better late than never 😂
If the engine fails, the gas will continue to go out and saturate the room. Stupidly dangerous!
Man your awesome
BE CAREFUL . As your propane bottle gets low, it will lean out and make your engine run hot and you could burn out the valves on your engine. NOT GOOD . Just make sure your not running low on propane
Is this guy still alive?
What cuts off your lip flow if the generator fails?
Please don’t do this!!! Without an on demand LP regulator there will be no governor throttle control to maintain speed under load and worse yet and deadly dangerous is that if the motor stalls under load, the LP continues to flow and can blow up your house!!!!!
How do u know if its more economical on propane then gasoline???
run the same load on both for the same duration. which used more of your hard earned dollars at your local prices for each? that will be the LESS economical alternative. if it costs 5 bucks to run a pump for 12 hours with gas (petrol), and 4 bucks to run the same pump for the same amount of time on propane, the propane is the more efficient per buck. that gives you "real world results" for your actual conditions, soup to nuts (assuming it will be running the pump, of course). you can do the same test the "other way", by buying a BBQ can of propane, and jerry cans of gasoline of the same cost total. run the genny under your normal loads expected, and keep track of hours of use per fuel reserve (gas and propane individually accounted). which fuel gave most hours for the single "fuel price" is the most economical (buck efficient). if prices go far from the current spread, you can always repeat periodically to insure current economic bliss. that gives you EXACT "apples to apples real world for you" custom results entirely weighted to your local fuel costs, that will HAVE to be reflected in your everyday use (as that was the "test duty cycle" used). play with a slide rule all day long, you will never get more accurate results than that, lol.
@@platinumsky845 I concur
I think he was hoping to get an answer from someone else who tried it. From other articles, the fuel cost is similar, but not having to refresh the fuel every three months makes the big difference.
Very unsafe. When your engine dies you still have all that propaine shooting in your engine. Make shure you you are aware of that. I would invest in a low presure regulator that is made to shut off the propane when the engine dies or not running
1/2" 12V DC Electric Brass Solenoid Valve
Will this work with either a bad carberator or no carb?
Yes it will as the mixing of the propane is done pryer to the carb or lack there of
As long as the carb is open. If the butterfly is frozen closed no fuel mixture can get in. 🥴