Why would you constantly tell everyone you wear old Stihl promark chaps but then recommend some Mexican made not American-made Husqvarna chaps I don't get that. And Amazon doesn't even say in the description how many layers they are are they 4 6-9? I just find that very strange that you've been wearing promark for years you said but wouldn't recommend those. I'd rather pay $80 for the Stihl Woodcutter 6-ply that are made in America and available at any Stihl dealer or ace hardware store then the $88 Husqvarna ones from Amazon that aren't. In fact Kevin the one that sent you the ones from the ace here in Tri-Cities Washington is in fact my local store that I go to to buy my Stihl products.
I know cleaning that bar was alot of work, but honestly id be okay with my chaps destroying a $1000 saw entirely if it means my femoral artery remains intact. Thanks for the video man, its the kind of eye opener people really need
Yesterday, for the first time in my life, I nearly got injured with a chainsaw. Late into the day, and far too tired and distracted, I let the spinning down bar graze my leg without chaps and boy am I lucky because the freshly sharpened chain only caught my jeans and did not touch my leg. So the timing of this video is great because that incident made me realize I really need a pair of good chaps. Thank you Wranglerstar!
Thank you. I showed this to my wife and we went and picked out some stihl chaps for me! I was talking to an old timer when we picked up my chaps. He said the most expensive chaps where still cheaper than a trip to the ER.
Yup! Safety first. I almost chopped off my finger a few weeks ago. Just a simple dumb rookie mistake. Dr. visit and stitches etc. after my insurance cost me $400. I'm spending some good money today on quality chaps, glove, are protectors and a helmet. A good investment since I'll be working with these tools in the long run. Still cheaper than a trip to the ER. My wife was pissed and panic after my accident. Safe first everyone. Like my pop would always say...IT only takes one time to learn a valuable lesson. A+++
Nice video. I work with a chainsaw daily and I tend to run the lighter chaps. I've always told my son chaps aren't made for keeping you from getting cut, they keep things from getting cut off. If you want to make sure you never get cut. Learn to use the chain brake before you take a step. That habit will protect you better than chaps ever will.
Hi there what do you mean by use the break before you take a step. I know what the break is but I’m interested to know how to employ it strategically as I assume you are suggesting. Lmk. Thanks!
I wish Wranglerstar would experiment now with a pig carcass with no chaps. Perhaps those viewers who don't wear chaps at all would start wearing them after seeing the carnage.
Agreed. It always horrifies me just how cavalier some folks are when using chainsaws. Dammit, if you are a little careless, you can give yourself quite nasty cut just sharpening the things!
Brian--Great idea, now if you will buy wranglerstar a pig carcass the man could try it and see. I priced them and they varied from producer to producer and it's usually sold by $/pound--- anywhere from $159.00 to $350.00 +, for the whole gutted pig. It widely differs from butcher to butcher and the bigger the pig, the lower the price per pound. Google it, look for whole pig carcass for roasting or bulk meat buying. Then you'll have the expense of shipping or taking the hog carcass to Wanglerstar, I'm sure you can handle the details.
In this regard i also think it be nice to just drop the saw on the log without the chaps, as that would also put the result of the cheap ones in a whole new perspective... While that was an injury for sure, compared to what did it protect you? ... and what about those prosumer level chaps? 95% of people will have those, are you better off getting the Chinese ones compared to those?
Dutch Courage if you drop a chainsaw on a log on full throttle with no chaps on the log, the chainsaw cuts through the log. Lots of videos are available of chainsaws cutting down trees.
I used to work in the woods, I remember the time I got my saw into my chaps. I was initially terrified to even look down and then realized that I had my chaps on. Since the chaps are not tight around the leg, the saw actually pulled the chaps away from my leg and they stopped the saw and did not go all the way through. That day made a firm believer out of me on wearing my chaps and taking care of them.
Stopped the video 2 min in to say it should be recognized that you tried to shop local rather than just immediately ordering online (even though they were eventually sent to you). Supporting local businesses keeps the economy going strong and puts food on the table for local families. We're all in this together!
It is also important to note that chaps should be washed once a month and air dried. The layers matte together and can become ineffective. Washing them restores them to being "fluffy"
Since you have the two chaps and they shouldn't be worn, you should test them both on something that simulates a loose fit on a vertical leg. I don't know if you are down to clean out your bar two more times though
There are the 'bottom leg' locations and the other leg for more tests, i agree... also 'prosumer level ones' ? ... and what about just a drop of the chainsaw on the log for some objective comparison of the results.
Logic and common sense doesnt apply here, he starts saws with the chain brake on.... so old chaps you have doubts about means stuff all and you should continue using them
@@ollysfishing4231 Even though starting the saws with the chain brake on is bad for the saws it is way safer. It is cheaper to replace a clutch than a leg
My wife bought be a pair of Husqvarna chaps some years ago. I brought the saw across my left thigh around the femoral Artery and and it stopped in the first two layers. No doubt I would have died before I got to the truck had I not had the chaps.
wear the pants, save a couple blood bags (and lives) chainsaw injuries are super bad, not a thin slice like a knife, but a thick jagged groove that doesnt close
When I was in my early 20s (still invincible) I was clearing land with my chainsaw, I was walking with the saw idling, chain slowly turning and my left thigh hit the chain. Instant gash, it took 20 stitches to close. I wear my chaps faithfully now. I don't want to think what a saw could do to flesh at wot.
My step dad hopped a fence with an idling chainsaw on the other side and sliced right in the middle of his foot. He was millimeters away from severing a tendon or something that would have needed to be amputated. I've never seen so much blood in my life😅 He camp hopping inside on one foot and calmly said "I need a ride to the ER." Now he wears better footwear instead of sandals when using a chainsaw 🙄
The saw did not cut through! The material was pulled toward you, and the far edge of the chaps rolled up. Then the saw cut it. These chaps offer full protection! Watch starting at 11:34.
Also if you watch other TH-cam channel videos that tested them, they never go all the way through. I just bought a pair but like he says they're pretty big and bulky. Now I need to get a lighter pair for summer.
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I once worked for a power company and I was part of their tree crew. I had just received a brand new pair of husqvarna chaps. While cutting underbrush I had the saw running at max speed and the tip of the bar ran into a tree root and kicked back on me. The bar hit me diagonally on my left thigh hard enough to leave a nasty purple and green color bruise. The chaps definitely saved my leg and possibly my life that day. There was a knick in my jeans from where the chain barely came through the back.
after looking at the footage in a slower speed i noticed that the saw does NOT penetrate the chaps in my opinion, the fabric inverts when the chain grabs the leg. (you see the black inside come up) great video !!!
Kevlar vests "expire" varranty expires after 5 years.. so i think kevlar does not age that much... allso bulletproof vest does need to be in top condition to work.. chaps fibers are not the same so it can be ok much longer
Thank you for this! We released a video of my husband using his chainsaw without chaps, and we got chewed up more than those cheap Amazon chaps! That being said, I'll check out the ones you recommend.
maybe not, but still. they are both nice couples. they are both font of their dogs, i like vet ranch too, the softer side of matt LOL. i can see them shooting all kinds of stuff or just a sniper contest. demolition ranch and furious pete was also a strange collab but the mood and entertainment factor was great.
Just some info: A firearms projectile ballistic penetration test on the chainsaw chaps probably will be disappointing, but minimally comically entertaining. There is generally a technique used with the weaving patterns of the Kevlar (or other ballistic fibers) and the cross-layering of the multiple "fabric" layers that make the ballistic vests function properly to stop or restrict accelerated blunt projectile penetration such as that from a firearm.
Thanks for making this video, I had an incident yesterday where I cut myself 3 inches below the knee cap, went to bone but no tendon cut. Luckily I was at home doing clean up work so I was able to get to the ER fairly fast. Definitely going to invest in a good pair of chaps. Thank you again
Cody if you look at the video carefully it looks more like the chaps rolled over and got cut on the back. I believe if the chaps were pulled tight it would not have ripped.
Yes, that does look like it might have been the case. It would be nice if Cody could shoot at 60fps and replay in slow motion (or get the SloMo guys to do it at 1000+ fps). The real question however is was it a realistic test compared to how you would normally wear them, I doubt anyone would cinch their chaps up too tight to cut off circulation. All in all however there was a significant improvement over the cheap ones.
I think your assessment of both chaps at the 15 minute mark is right on the money. Even the cheap chaps offer an additional level of protection and we should not be discouraged from buying them. Thanks for the great video.
I can tell you, you are 100 percent correct on the test. Early on working for the CCC I had somehow managed to have the chain resting on my leg as I was moving through brush and chopped the gas to keep the saw running when it suddenly bogged... that was my LEG! Didn't cut me, but left a couple marks on the pants. That was the last time I have ever had anything like that happen. It tends to make you hyper aware. :)
Wow, I didn't realize the importance of wearing chaps while working with a chainsaw. I'll be buying a pair when I need to work with one in the future. Watching this video just potentially saved my life, hopefully others will do the same. Thanks for the video.
These videos have absolutely NOTHING relative to my city lifestyle, yet I still enjoy watching for some off reason. You keep it interesting I suppose. I'm learning something new with each video. Well done sir.
Several years ago, my VIce Pres at work asked me to top out a small oak tree that had died about 15 feet above ground level. Having had several days helping clear a new trap field at my gun club I agreed to do it. Winter time, I was wearing a 69\40 jacket (3/4 length). I very carefully warmed up the Pouland (Craftsman) saw, climbed the ladder, tied the ladder securely to the tree, hoisted the running saw and very, very carefully topped the tree. Shut the saw down, lowered it and climbed down the ladder. When I got down and turned around, my VP asked “what happened”, Looking down at my coat. My nice 60/40 jacket had about a 4-6 inch cut right across the area of my Femoral (spelling) artery. I was astounded. The cut did not penetrate to my skin but it ruined my mind. After all the very smart precautions, I could have died before the ambulance could have arrived. I kept and wore that jacket with the roughly sewn repair and everyone Seeing it and asking “what happened” heard the story and was admonished to 1. Never go up a tree with a chain saw unless you are wearing chaps, 2. Never even handle a chain saw without chaps, 3. Leave the tree topping to the pros. I have no idea how or when that slash across that artery area occurred. The Good LORD was watching out for me that day.
This truly is a responsible video. I like your thinking and logic that goes into a video such as this. You truly are a conscious thinker. Personally I wear the labonville W850CKP. I wear them because I want protection. They cost a few more dollars than the budget chaps but they could save you from permanently injuring yourself. Two drawbacks with better chaps, cost and comfort. The better chaps have increased layers and that means increased warmth. My legs sweat like crazy whether it is winter or summer in them. IMO it is a small price to pay to save your legs. What most people don't understand is a chainsaw just doesn't cut, it removes. There is no bringing back the tissue and flesh that gets tossed by the blade when it comes in contact with a limb (and not a tree limb).
Really like it how your actually concerned about waste. No other youtuber thinks twice about smashing a new car or phone or expensive object. You sir are a decent human being! I really wish i could buy and send you a new pair for free to say thanks!
Awesome. Saw that test in real life. While cutting a survey line a forestry co-worker who repeatedly kept arguing which direction the trees were going to fall while I was cutting. So ... I handed him the chainsaw. There was 2' of snow with a thick crust. With me watching with my arms crossed on the sidelines, he was reaching above his head delimbing some branches while putting most of his weight on the crusted surface with his right foot. His left foot was planted 2' lower on the ground. As he was limping his right foot broke thought the crust jarring him forward and bringing the saw bar,at full throttle, down across his right thigh. The chainsaw pants fiber stopped the saw in a millisecond. We quickly took his gear off fearing the worst. The chain had cut through the outside shell, the fiber, the inside liner, his work pants and ONE layer of his dufold (double layered) longjohns! He ended up with a 3" red mark on his upper thigh and he was white as a ghost. Needless to say he allowed me to do all the chainsawing with out a peep and we both realized what chainsaw pants were made of and why 😳
After doing a bunch of research, I was confident with the purchase of my new Stihl MS261CM saw (which has turned out to be amazing). What I wasn't completely confident with was coughing up the extra $$$ for these Pro Mark chaps until I saw this video a couple weeks after I bought them! Since I find myself doing much more more awkward limbing than felling and bucking, I'm totally ok with the extra weight for a bit more piece-of-mind. Thanks for the quality content Mr. W.
I doubt that the chaps will be much if any protection to a bullet. Although both the chaps and vests are made using kevlar threads; The main difference is the design of the weave and how each layer is stacked. The chaps use a very loose wave. This loose design is such as for the thread to unravel, and jam the saw's sockets . Vests on the other hand have a very tight weave, and the layers over lap in a way to cover gaps between the treads of each layer. The tight weave is designed to tightly grab and slow down the bullet, as it passes through each layer. That said it would be interesting to see a demonstration between the two. But to be fair you should get your hands on a vest, and see how well it would stop a chainsaw.
it makes sense that this test came out the way it did. My father has an old pair of leather fronted chaps with the kevlar interior but the fronts are a tough leather as well to give (in my opinion) an extra layer of protection. In the end though safety is no laughing matter and especially with something designed to be felling trees a person is nowhere near as tough as a tree. So personally I will be purchasing a nice heavy set of chaps for any work that I do
I think this proves that chaps don't turn you invincible. I think sometimes safety gear like chaps puts you into a lull, where you are not as vigilant about safe handling of your chainsaw. I logged for years without chaps, never cut my leg. Then I took a job where chaps were required, and I kept snagging the darn things with my saw. I eventually went back to my old job where chaps weren't required and I cut my leg the first day back. Log rolled and I threw the saw it caught me in the knee at an idle and left a nasty gash.
BarnGeek: Ain't it funny, the things the Lord uses to teach us!? My story is, very long ago when I knew almost nothing about chain saws, and was out in the woods cutting firewood. I was walking with a running saw, the brake was not set, the idle was too fast. As I stepped over a log, left leg first, the spinning chain nicked my left thigh. Just a little bit. It snagged my bib overalls, and put a small hole in the skin tight red union suit I was wearing underneath. But the Lord spared me!! The skin of my leg was UNTOUCHED!! This is where I learned. I Had received a hint from Heaven. Now I wear chaps. For once it didn't take blood and stiches to teach me something! Thank you, my merciful Father!!
Michael Dougfir What's the lord teaching kids that are raped, murdered, have cancer, severe burns, abusive parents or any other serious problems? Or is it only God teaching you a lesson when it sounds good in your head?
The most important safety reminder I have EVER had is the superficial slash across the right thigh on my chaps. I see it every time I put them on. It is the best reminder possible.
I have had two incidents with chains hitting my legs. Both incidents were where limbs under tension sprung back and hit the bar driving it into my leg. Each time, the chaps stopped the saw dead instantly. I had a bruise but not a cut. Having them a little loose allows the time for the fibers to react with the saw. By the way, I believe they use another type of fiber now, rather than Kevlar as a few years ago. The way the fibers are woven in chaps vs the weave in ballistic panels are very different even though it is the same material. I wore Kevlar for over 28 years as a police officer. The amount of layers and design are quite different. Chaps made similar to ballistic vests would be so stiff it would be very difficult to wear them. At least you could stand them in the corner to dry out the sweat when you are done. Just sayin’.
I’ve had those kinds of kick backs I’ve never worn chaps and never been injured but I know how to use a chainsaw and what to do when one kicks back on me, I bet you get really close to what your cutting
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Its weird how he doesn't seem to know that chaps are designed to clog up the sprocket and stop the chain from moving asap. That is the main safety function of them.
I havent finished watching the video so dunno where youre getting this vibe from but he does know. watch the vid where he chopped up the cheap ones first and he really describes exactly that. BEFORE cutting them. he does definitely understand the concept EDIT: Oh I see.
I wear lebonville x-treme competition full wrap 10 layer chaps and they are not bad in the heat. They may seem bulky at first but like anything they break in after wearing them and get more comfortable.
@@techtalk490 The bar is off the saw. Thirty seconds of wiping it down would clear most oil, and a bit of flame would be nominal and not damage anything. The oil might even prevent the plastic fibres from adhering to the bar.
Thank you wranglerstar for doing this review of the stihl promarks I just started to learn from my dad how to do firewood and cut down trees and I saw your video and it helped me choose promarks, also you said you cannot find promarks at stihl dealers I recommend trying ace hardware Not sure if you have one near you that sells stihl equipment but that’s what I recomend
I think they would protect you better. I thing the initial grab of the material pulled the outer edge up into the blade away from the skin, hence why there were no marks on the log. Great review video!
I have just recently found your channel and I have to say I am a huge fan. I noticed that you don't seem to have too much trepidation about jumping right in, and climbing on or around the piles of timber. I was wondering if you guys ever get the timber rattlers like we do in Colorado? I would be interested to know if you are at too high an elevation or what.
@@yummy_6410 Something can be very corrosive but not very acidic. How easily a substance corrodes is typically the most important factor when it comes to dissolving things. Edit: Just realized how old this comment was. My bad.
Interesting video, liked it. Heavy and hot or not, better than bleeding out after a momentary mistake. Fun fact: plate armor wasn't that cumbersome and the weight was well distributed. Knights were pretty quick and mobile :) Keep up the good work!!
Well, I'm getting into the firewood business now, and I am definitely going to invest in these. Doesn't make sense not to. One other way to help mitigate injury is to use your brake if it's going at you. I at least have the reaction time to shove the brake forward, it already saved me once.
I don’t think you cut through the chaps. It looks like they rolled over and you cut the backside with the blade. The pulled through threads are evidence of that.
I agree the Promark chaps are hot and heavy in the summer but I will always error on the side of caution and being over kill wearing these. I carry a 30 lb pack into the woods and will not skimp on PPE one bit.
I'd prefer to spend a couple of hours in the workshop freeing a stuck sprocket instead of spending a few hours in the ER having my leg stitched back together. Great video, thank you for taking the time to do this review.
You should watch videos of electric saws, they are constantly stalling from a little too much down pressure or heat or any number of reasons. A motor is a motor and you can easily stall a small one out, granted a three phase motor on a lathe would spin a body around to bits without batting an eyelash but electric chainsaw... eh.. Stihl probably has that disclaimer for liability reasons because you know, fresh coffee is hot and only an idiot would spill it on themselves and claim ignorance and sue for millions.
I'd say it depends on the electric chainsaw too. I use a cordless brushless chainsaw, which is designed for high fps chain speed but lower torque even when compared to a base model cordless chainsaw from the same brand. The chaps should work fine in that scenario. The older corded ones with low chain speed but high torque might be able to overcome the fibres of the cheap chaps. Someone should test it. I'd offer but Stihl's entry level chaps cost US$170 in my country!
3:35 I'm a lefty, so when you said there were no injuries to the right hand reported, I immediately thought to myself, "Yep, we lefties are a little more careful in our chainsaw use. LOL. Then when I thought about it, and picked up my chainsaw, I realised that by design (of my chainsaw), I hold the throttle with my right as well. Touch wood, in 30 odd years of using these leg eaters, I've never had even a close call. I have a deep, abiding respect for chainsaws. They are awesome tools, but potentially deadly if taken for granted.
If I had to work with a chainsaw all day, I'd be more than willing to spend as much on the chaps as the saw. Think of it this way, $80-$600 for chaps, or $30 for chaps and $150,000 for medical bills.
Chuck Sherron i was told in a chain saw Shop in Germany to never wash them with Soap or any other stuff so you don't disallign the fibres... because they go strait up and down
Interesting. I would have thought that a good set of leather chaps would have been a great idea, but the way the material binds the chain up in the saw so fast I think leather chaps wouldn't work as good as either chaps in this video. Thank you for the review and the insight of how chaps are made. :)
I know here in Canada they cut down trees mostly in winter... Lakes are frozen there's less underbrush and bush roads are not buddy so they don't get stuck as much. Those bigger chaps would be better for them for sure.
Don't buy chaps buy full protective chainsaw trousers I cut trees as my job and I've cut my trousers I would like to be wearing chaps from what I've seen
Dean morris totally agree ! 30 years comercial with saws ! Always always get the best most comfortable full protection ! You don't get refunds when you're dead !
Hey Cody, old video I know, but do you think the saw caught the edge of the Stihl pants and folded them over a bit so that it actually grabbed the backside (black side) rather than have gone all the way through them?
Yeah $80,- sounds better than $120 ... but i'm more interested in the 'prosumer' level ones now ... how do they compare? ... and also, 'to what?' would love to see the saw just dropped on the log, to put the results into perspective.
Another factor would be the solid log had no give on impact like the thigh would. The test was not perfect, but an excellent comparison of the ability of the two different materials. Like any safety gear, something is better than nothing. Now I need to pull my Husqvarna chaps out of the bin and see how many layers I have. Thanks for putting this out there.
I want to see what the aftermath was for the saw! Did it bind the front sprocket again? It looked like these chaps actually got the drive sprocket this time
I am a wildland firefighter, have been since 2005. I have chapped my saw and have seen other people chap their saw. I have never used a nine layer chap and have never had a saw cut through more than the top layer of the large thread weave, seven layer orange F.S.S. chaps that are basically standard on most any wild fire. The bunching together of the kevlar, and then weaving that into the sheets, that is the important thing to consider. How big are the weaved bunches. How many crossed threads in a given area, you in fact want a ton of air space between the fibers so that they can rip stretch and reach the clutch housing (meaning large bunches, in a loose weave). Usually on forest fires you see people resting the warmed up saw, with its stretched out chain, on their leg and the clutch housing is directly above, meaning the fibers do not have to travel as far to stop the saw. That make up the bulk of incidents, I have seen brush cutting incidents where the saw was too large and it made the sawyer off balance pulling their leg into the path of the cut. Those also do not usually occur at full speed. The only full speed incident I can think of was when an inexperienced person cutting through a pinched log which was already too big for them, dropped the saw out the bottom of the log without releasing the throttle, the saw pulled itself down to his leg and then stopped in the fibers. THE FIRST TWO LAYERS ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT, everything else is just padding. If the layers are too tight, the teeth just cut right through them, and if they are too loose they angel-hair up like the cheap pair did. Happy medium and a cautious respect for the chain, like the fire because both are uncompromising. Overhead cutting tends to have people dropping the saw without letting it come to rest first, so I never recommend that as a tool to use. Always rest the saw on the pull-cord housing between the air vent and the handle, then the chain is as far away from your leg as possible. wrap your thumb. ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS do these things and you should not have to spend $175 on perty chaps unless that is totally your thing.
to much of a variable , with the cheap chaps you cut with the nose of the saw down and with the stihl you cut with the nose up ,giving you more chain on chaps with the cheap ones , compare side by side . i would say that you should have been more careful and dropped the saw level on each pair ,as far as i can tell they are equal , they did what they were supposed to do ,and if you are a once a year chain saw guy on a budget the cheap chaps are going to do just fine , and as far as money goes if you run a saw every day and are going to drop 1400 on a saw I m sure the dealer would cut you a deal on a pair of stihl you know to match your hat boots and gloves , for the casual saw owner they are probable going to have a smaller saw , smaller chain and less HP
Razzors Edge I saw some things that were different on both tests also, favoring the stihl chaps. When he dropped it on the cheap chaps it seemed more intentional with better grip and pressure into the chaps. On the stihl chaps it seems he just “dropped” the saw on the chaps
If you are buying the cheapest chaps on Amazon you probably have a cheap little crappy chain saw. You should try the other leg of the Amazon chaps with the smallest saw you have.
diyVT it's more likely that a homeowner will not buy either of them. I have lived in rural MN my entire life and don't know a single person that actually wears chaps.
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well the bummer about those husky chaps is that they dont ship to NZ. :(
and they are $240 in the store here
On sale at 2-for-1, as long as you want two left legs.
As a fellow Christian, I would say that God wants you to wear those chaps, not test them, given the outcome and the problems with the saw!!!!
Why would you constantly tell everyone you wear old Stihl promark chaps but then recommend some Mexican made not American-made Husqvarna chaps I don't get that. And Amazon doesn't even say in the description how many layers they are are they 4 6-9? I just find that very strange that you've been wearing promark for years you said but wouldn't recommend those. I'd rather pay $80 for the Stihl Woodcutter 6-ply that are made in America and available at any Stihl dealer or ace hardware store then the $88 Husqvarna ones from Amazon that aren't. In fact Kevin the one that sent you the ones from the ace here in Tri-Cities Washington is in fact my local store that I go to to buy my Stihl products.
I know cleaning that bar was alot of work, but honestly id be okay with my chaps destroying a $1000 saw entirely if it means my femoral artery remains intact. Thanks for the video man, its the kind of eye opener people really need
Forget saving your life, that 1000 saw will be a lot cheaper than the reconstruction surgeries.
Couldn't have said it better myself. So excited. My dad just shipped me his mint Stihl 270C
@@Gabronthe It's cheaper than just the ambulance ride
Even if it saves you from a trip to the ER for stitches it’s worth it.
Yesterday, for the first time in my life, I nearly got injured with a chainsaw. Late into the day, and far too tired and distracted, I let the spinning down bar graze my leg without chaps and boy am I lucky because the freshly sharpened chain only caught my jeans and did not touch my leg. So the timing of this video is great because that incident made me realize I really need a pair of good chaps. Thank you Wranglerstar!
same thing happened to me today. getting some chaps. been using a saw for 50 yrs... 1st incidence. wise up...
You dont need safety gear if you never make an accident. That's what makes safety gear so important - no one ever plans on making an accident.
I'm new to chain saw usage got the headgear gloves with the kevlar and chaps. The chaps have already saved my left leg
Thank you. I showed this to my wife and we went and picked out some stihl chaps for me! I was talking to an old timer when we picked up my chaps. He said the most expensive chaps where still cheaper than a trip to the ER.
The ER doesn’t cost a penny though?🇬🇧
Let's see in America about 2000 dollers for a ambulance alone so yeah.
@Deus Vult socialists and their delusions.
Yup! Safety first. I almost chopped off my finger a few weeks ago. Just a simple dumb rookie mistake. Dr. visit and stitches etc. after my insurance cost me $400. I'm spending some good money today on quality chaps, glove, are protectors and a helmet. A good investment since I'll be working with these tools in the long run. Still cheaper than a trip to the ER. My wife was pissed and panic after my accident. Safe first everyone. Like my pop would always say...IT only takes one time to learn a valuable lesson. A+++
@@tomalophicon well, do you count tax money as money spent, or do you only actually consider the money you get into your account as spendable income?
Nice video. I work with a chainsaw daily and I tend to run the lighter chaps. I've always told my son chaps aren't made for keeping you from getting cut, they keep things from getting cut off. If you want to make sure you never get cut. Learn to use the chain brake before you take a step. That habit will protect you better than chaps ever will.
Hi there what do you mean by use the break before you take a step. I know what the break is but I’m interested to know how to employ it strategically as I assume you are suggesting. Lmk. Thanks!
I wish Wranglerstar would experiment now with a pig carcass with no chaps. Perhaps those viewers who don't wear chaps at all would start wearing them after seeing the carnage.
Agreed. It always horrifies me just how cavalier some folks are when using chainsaws. Dammit, if you are a little careless, you can give yourself quite nasty cut just sharpening the things!
That is a good idea, but also test the chaps again on the pig carcass! it would be a far more realistic set up.
Brian--Great idea, now if you will buy wranglerstar a pig carcass the man could try it and see. I priced them and they varied from producer to producer and it's usually sold by $/pound--- anywhere from $159.00 to $350.00 +, for the whole gutted pig. It widely differs from butcher to butcher and the bigger the pig, the lower the price per pound. Google it, look for whole pig carcass for roasting or bulk meat buying. Then you'll have the expense of shipping or taking the hog carcass to Wanglerstar, I'm sure you can handle the details.
In this regard i also think it be nice to just drop the saw on the log without the chaps, as that would also put the result of the cheap ones in a whole new perspective... While that was an injury for sure, compared to what did it protect you? ... and what about those prosumer level chaps? 95% of people will have those, are you better off getting the Chinese ones compared to those?
Dutch Courage if you drop a chainsaw on a log on full throttle with no chaps on the log, the chainsaw cuts through the log. Lots of videos are available of chainsaws cutting down trees.
I used to work in the woods, I remember the time I got my saw into my chaps. I was initially terrified to even look down and then realized that I had my chaps on. Since the chaps are not tight around the leg, the saw actually pulled the chaps away from my leg and they stopped the saw and did not go all the way through. That day made a firm believer out of me on wearing my chaps and taking care of them.
Stopped the video 2 min in to say it should be recognized that you tried to shop local rather than just immediately ordering online (even though they were eventually sent to you). Supporting local businesses keeps the economy going strong and puts food on the table for local families. We're all in this together!
Great test! You should conclude with testing a pair of jeans or carharts to see what the damage could be.
Not
How about go make me a sandwich
@@skipperskipper2233 honestly bro my ole lady runs a saw. So why do you be a good boy and shut your mouth and sit down. Smh.
@@skipperskipper2233 lol
@@kirkkidwell2984 omg oh hell nah
It is also important to note that chaps should be washed once a month and air dried. The layers matte together and can become ineffective. Washing them restores them to being "fluffy"
This channel is pure quality, you stick to your words and never give us bad videos! Please never retire this channel and keep up the good work!
Since you have the two chaps and they shouldn't be worn, you should test them both on something that simulates a loose fit on a vertical leg. I don't know if you are down to clean out your bar two more times though
There are the 'bottom leg' locations and the other leg for more tests, i agree... also 'prosumer level ones' ? ... and what about just a drop of the chainsaw on the log for some objective comparison of the results.
Wait so if your chaps are 15 years old and your afraid of them deteriorating then shouldn't u replace them in case u to accidentally saw your leg
@wranglerstar
25klikes and the bullet test isn't the first recommended. Very angry.
Logic and common sense doesnt apply here, he starts saws with the chain brake on.... so old chaps you have doubts about means stuff all and you should continue using them
@@nmmxiii9389 Took a while but it is now!
@@ollysfishing4231 Even though starting the saws with the chain brake on is bad for the saws it is way safer. It is cheaper to replace a clutch than a leg
Your channel is so versatile, always something new and interesting. I love all the work you put into your video's keep it up!
Thank you. Appreciate that,
I learned only recently the nuissance of the internal chap fibers binding the gearing is by design. Thanks for demonstrating this for us!
Wrangler star: *destroys $300 drill* ehhh no problem
Also wranglerstar: *omg cant believe im destroying these $100 chaps*
The fibers are supposed to tangle up the bar. I do believe that is part of the design.
Yep, protection is about saving humans. If a machine gets destroyed in the process so be it. So... don't have accidents.
I work in an ER and we had two left thigh chainsaw injuries in one day. Wear the pants
My wife bought be a pair of Husqvarna chaps some years ago. I brought the saw across my left thigh around the femoral Artery and and it stopped in the first two layers. No doubt I would have died before I got to the truck had I not had the chaps.
wear the pants, save a couple blood bags (and lives)
chainsaw injuries are super bad, not a thin slice like a knife, but a thick jagged groove that doesnt close
When I was in my early 20s (still invincible) I was clearing land with my chainsaw, I was walking with the saw idling, chain slowly turning and my left thigh hit the chain.
Instant gash, it took 20 stitches to close.
I wear my chaps faithfully now. I don't want to think what a saw could do to flesh at wot.
My step dad hopped a fence with an idling chainsaw on the other side and sliced right in the middle of his foot. He was millimeters away from severing a tendon or something that would have needed to be amputated. I've never seen so much blood in my life😅 He camp hopping inside on one foot and calmly said "I need a ride to the ER." Now he wears better footwear instead of sandals when using a chainsaw 🙄
The saw did not cut through! The material was pulled toward you, and the far edge of the chaps rolled up. Then the saw cut it. These chaps offer full protection! Watch starting at 11:34.
Uisge Pick I saw the same thing
Also if you watch other TH-cam channel videos that tested them, they never go all the way through. I just bought a pair but like he says they're pretty big and bulky. Now I need to get a lighter pair for summer.
nothing offers full protection
Kyle fulerton I agree. The statement had more to do with full thickness protection, and being unlikely to cut through the nine layers.
Kyle fulerton: I OFFER FULL PROTECTION! ! My clients can expect to be kept safe and secure with 360° protection. Never underestimate a man with a plan and carnàtha in his hand.... Full Protection: Where there is a will there is a Way! Full Protection can be attained using the highest quality equipment specified as: "FULL PROTECTION" by the manufacturer. Eh?
the backside penetration is from the chaps pulling around and up not the chain going through
I agree.
"Backside penetration"?
That would come from wearing chaps without pants.
I once worked for a power company and I was part of their tree crew. I had just received a brand new pair of husqvarna chaps. While cutting underbrush I had the saw running at max speed and the tip of the bar ran into a tree root and kicked back on me. The bar hit me diagonally on my left thigh hard enough to leave a nasty purple and green color bruise. The chaps definitely saved my leg and possibly my life that day. There was a knick in my jeans from where the chain barely came through the back.
after looking at the footage in a slower speed i noticed that the saw does NOT penetrate the chaps in my opinion, the fabric inverts when the chain grabs the leg. (you see the black inside come up) great video !!!
I would be very interested in comparing the brand new chaps and your heavily used ones against each other
Or to an old used pair like what a logger might own
Kevlar vests "expire" varranty expires after 5 years.. so i think kevlar does not age that much... allso bulletproof vest does need to be in top condition to work.. chaps fibers are not the same so it can be ok much longer
Thank you for this! We released a video of my husband using his chainsaw without chaps, and we got chewed up more than those cheap Amazon chaps! That being said, I'll check out the ones you recommend.
Doing the gun test on the chaps, would be Wranglerstar's version of a Demolition Ranch episode! All he needs is a 50 BMG for the finally!
would like to see a collab of them.
Red Sampler That would be cool.
Would never happen
maybe not, but still. they are both nice couples.
they are both font of their dogs,
i like vet ranch too, the softer side of matt LOL.
i can see them shooting all kinds of stuff or just a sniper contest.
demolition ranch and furious pete was also a strange collab but the mood and entertainment factor was great.
Just some info:
A firearms projectile ballistic penetration test on the chainsaw chaps probably will be disappointing, but minimally comically entertaining.
There is generally a technique used with the weaving patterns of the Kevlar (or other ballistic fibers) and the cross-layering of the multiple "fabric" layers that make the ballistic vests function properly to stop or restrict accelerated blunt projectile penetration such as that from a firearm.
Thanks for making this video, I had an incident yesterday where I cut myself 3 inches below the knee cap, went to bone but no tendon cut. Luckily I was at home doing clean up work so I was able to get to the ER fairly fast. Definitely going to invest in a good pair of chaps. Thank you again
Cody if you look at the video carefully it looks more like the chaps rolled over and got cut on the back. I believe if the chaps were pulled tight it would not have ripped.
Steven P yep! We need a retest.
Bryan Sisco I don't know.
Yes, that does look like it might have been the case. It would be nice if Cody could shoot at 60fps and replay in slow motion (or get the SloMo guys to do it at 1000+ fps). The real question however is was it a realistic test compared to how you would normally wear them, I doubt anyone would cinch their chaps up too tight to cut off circulation.
All in all however there was a significant improvement over the cheap ones.
Questionable Impact I doubt too that anyone would wear them super tight, but I also doubt that any logical person would leave them unbuckled.
It looks like that knot in the wood got caught on it and ripped it.
I think your assessment of both chaps at the 15 minute mark is right on the money. Even the cheap chaps offer an additional level of protection and we should not be discouraged from buying them. Thanks for the great video.
this guy really can turn a 5 minute video into 15-20 minutes every damn time
Dont watch then . its easy.
It's not so easy for everyone
Impatient sissy’s 😂😂😂
He's the nutnfancy of homesteading.
Happy he does tho
I can tell you, you are 100 percent correct on the test. Early on working for the CCC I had somehow managed to have the chain resting on my leg as I was moving through brush and chopped the gas to keep the saw running when it suddenly bogged... that was my LEG! Didn't cut me, but left a couple marks on the pants. That was the last time I have ever had anything like that happen. It tends to make you hyper aware. :)
Wow, I didn't realize the importance of wearing chaps while working with a chainsaw. I'll be buying a pair when I need to work with one in the future. Watching this video just potentially saved my life, hopefully others will do the same. Thanks for the video.
These videos have absolutely NOTHING relative to my city lifestyle, yet I still enjoy watching for some off reason. You keep it interesting I suppose. I'm learning something new with each video. Well done sir.
It may pain you, but it educates us. And we thank you to the sun and back.
Several years ago, my VIce Pres at work asked me to top out a small oak tree that had died about 15 feet above ground level. Having had several days helping clear a new trap field at my gun club I agreed to do it. Winter time, I was wearing a 69\40 jacket (3/4 length). I very carefully warmed up the Pouland (Craftsman) saw, climbed the ladder, tied the ladder securely to the tree, hoisted the running saw and very, very carefully topped the tree. Shut the saw down, lowered it and climbed down the ladder. When I got down and turned around, my VP asked “what happened”, Looking down at my coat. My nice 60/40 jacket had about a 4-6 inch cut right across the area of my Femoral (spelling) artery. I was astounded. The cut did not penetrate to my skin but it ruined my mind.
After all the very smart precautions, I could have died before the ambulance could have arrived. I kept and wore that jacket with the roughly sewn repair and everyone Seeing it and asking “what happened” heard the story and was admonished to 1. Never go up a tree with a chain saw unless you are wearing chaps, 2. Never even handle a chain saw without chaps, 3. Leave the tree topping to the pros. I have no idea how or when that slash across that artery area occurred.
The Good LORD was watching out for me that day.
I'm confused, you somehow had hit yourself with the saw and didn't even realize it until someone else pointed it out to you?
Moon and back. Don't get carried away.
@@calebdorsey7591 Neighbors house and back. Why chance getting hit by space debris?
This truly is a responsible video. I like your thinking and logic that goes into a video such as this. You truly are a conscious thinker. Personally I wear the labonville W850CKP. I wear them because I want protection. They cost a few more dollars than the budget chaps but they could save you from permanently injuring yourself. Two drawbacks with better chaps, cost and comfort. The better chaps have increased layers and that means increased warmth. My legs sweat like crazy whether it is winter or summer in them. IMO it is a small price to pay to save your legs. What most people don't understand is a chainsaw just doesn't cut, it removes. There is no bringing back the tissue and flesh that gets tossed by the blade when it comes in contact with a limb (and not a tree limb).
Bar and chain, no blades on saws. Yes they leave a messy messy cut, unlike a knife blade.
Really like it how your actually concerned about waste. No other youtuber thinks twice about smashing a new car or phone or expensive object. You sir are a decent human being! I really wish i could buy and send you a new pair for free to say thanks!
Awesome. Saw that test in real life. While cutting a survey line a forestry co-worker who repeatedly kept arguing which direction the trees were going to fall while I was cutting. So ... I handed him the chainsaw. There was 2' of snow with a thick crust. With me watching with my arms crossed on the sidelines, he was reaching above his head delimbing some branches while putting most of his weight on the crusted surface with his right foot. His left foot was planted 2' lower on the ground. As he was limping his right foot broke thought the crust jarring him forward and bringing the saw bar,at full throttle, down across his right thigh. The chainsaw pants fiber stopped the saw in a millisecond. We quickly took his gear off fearing the worst. The chain had cut through the outside shell, the fiber, the inside liner, his work pants and ONE layer of his dufold (double layered) longjohns! He ended up with a 3" red mark on his upper thigh and he was white as a ghost.
Needless to say he allowed me to do all the chainsawing with out a peep and we both realized what chainsaw pants were made of and why 😳
I just realized if someone is trying to kill you with a chainsaw throw some chaps on the chainsaw and hes powerless
BIDOOF!AROO!!!!! that is absolutley brilliant
That ruins every horror movie!!! Ever!! Lol
hoping that no zombies read this
assless chaps are leatherface's arch nemesis.
Teenagers traveling through texas in the 70's need to carry chaps
After doing a bunch of research, I was confident with the purchase of my new Stihl MS261CM saw (which has turned out to be amazing). What I wasn't completely confident with was coughing up the extra $$$ for these Pro Mark chaps until I saw this video a couple weeks after I bought them! Since I find myself doing much more more awkward limbing than felling and bucking, I'm totally ok with the extra weight for a bit more piece-of-mind. Thanks for the quality content Mr. W.
I doubt that the chaps will be much if any protection to a bullet. Although both the chaps and vests are made using kevlar threads; The main difference is the design of the weave and how each layer is stacked. The chaps use a very loose wave. This loose design is such as for the thread to unravel, and jam the saw's sockets .
Vests on the other hand have a very tight weave, and the layers over lap in a way to cover gaps between the treads of each layer. The tight weave is designed to tightly grab and slow down the bullet, as it passes through each layer.
That said it would be interesting to see a demonstration between the two. But to be fair you should get your hands on a vest, and see how well it would stop a chainsaw.
it makes sense that this test came out the way it did. My father has an old pair of leather fronted chaps with the kevlar interior but the fronts are a tough leather as well to give (in my opinion) an extra layer of protection. In the end though safety is no laughing matter and especially with something designed to be felling trees a person is nowhere near as tough as a tree. So personally I will be purchasing a nice heavy set of chaps for any work that I do
11:30 is what you came for
HI Inc. you sir are god like
not all heroes wear amazon chaps!
Thanks for this.
You're a lifesaver buddy!
i cant be the only one thats obsessed with this guys videos! Man you're amazing, thanks for the great content
I think this proves that chaps don't turn you invincible. I think sometimes safety gear like chaps puts you into a lull, where you are not as vigilant about safe handling of your chainsaw. I logged for years without chaps, never cut my leg.
Then I took a job where chaps were required, and I kept snagging the darn things with my saw. I eventually went back to my old job where chaps weren't required and I cut my leg the first day back. Log rolled and I threw the saw it caught me in the knee at an idle and left a nasty gash.
BarnGeek: Ain't it funny, the things the Lord uses to teach us!?
My story is, very long ago when I knew almost nothing about chain saws, and was out in the woods cutting firewood. I was walking with a running saw, the brake was not set, the idle was too fast. As I stepped over a log, left leg first, the spinning chain nicked my left thigh. Just a little bit. It snagged my bib overalls, and put a small hole in the skin tight red union suit I was wearing underneath. But the Lord spared me!! The skin of my leg was UNTOUCHED!! This is where I learned. I Had received a hint from Heaven. Now I wear chaps. For once it didn't take blood and stiches to teach me something! Thank you, my merciful Father!!
Michael Dougfir
What's the lord teaching kids that are raped, murdered, have cancer, severe burns, abusive parents or any other serious problems? Or is it only God teaching you a lesson when it sounds good in your head?
drupy1992: God was appropriate. And on topic. But you are not.
drupy1992 you must live in such a world of pain. My you find the help you need.
Michael Dougfir god isn't real
That was absolutely worth the wait. Thanks Cody👍👊
Great! Now I know the perfect chaps to use with the chainsaw I don’t own.
The most important safety reminder I have EVER had is the superficial slash across the right thigh on my chaps. I see it every time I put them on. It is the best reminder possible.
I know you are well practiced, but you are demonstrating "drop starting" the saw which is not recommended (for novices?)
Good video.
froggy man i totally agree
If you use the chainbreak when starting does it matter?
@@scottr397 Good question, IIRC mine starts with chain brake on or off. But that's from memory which is tricky at my age, haha.
I just love how sensible this man is... Some people in 2021 could learn a lot from you.
I have had two incidents with chains hitting my legs. Both incidents were where limbs under tension sprung back and hit the bar driving it into my leg. Each time, the chaps stopped the saw dead instantly. I had a bruise but not a cut. Having them a little loose allows the time for the fibers to react with the saw. By the way, I believe they use another type of fiber now, rather than Kevlar as a few years ago. The way the fibers are woven in chaps vs the weave in ballistic panels are very different even though it is the same material. I wore Kevlar for over 28 years as a police officer. The amount of layers and design are quite different. Chaps made similar to ballistic vests would be so stiff it would be very difficult to wear them. At least you could stand them in the corner to dry out the sweat when you are done. Just sayin’.
I’ve had those kinds of kick backs I’ve never worn chaps and never been injured but I know how to use a chainsaw and what to do when one kicks back on me, I bet you get really close to what your cutting
They call them accidents for a reason smoky, and they can happen to anyone. Don't wait and see
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Its weird how he doesn't seem to know that chaps are designed to clog up the sprocket and stop the chain from moving asap. That is the main safety function of them.
I havent finished watching the video so dunno where youre getting this vibe from but he does know. watch the vid where he chopped up the cheap ones first and he really describes exactly that. BEFORE cutting them. he does definitely understand the concept
EDIT: Oh I see.
I wear lebonville x-treme competition full wrap 10 layer chaps and they are not bad in the heat. They may seem bulky at first but like anything they break in after wearing them and get more comfortable.
Just get a torch and burn the stuck fibers!!
Chris A wouldn't it melt them together and make them stuck?
Chris A the whole saw is coverd in oil
@@techtalk490 The bar is off the saw. Thirty seconds of wiping it down would clear most oil, and a bit of flame would be nominal and not damage anything. The oil might even prevent the plastic fibres from adhering to the bar.
That's exactly what I said!
Thank you wranglerstar for doing this review of the stihl promarks I just started to learn from my dad how to do firewood and cut down trees and I saw your video and it helped me choose promarks, also you said you cannot find promarks at stihl dealers I recommend trying ace hardware
Not sure if you have one near you that sells stihl equipment but that’s what I recomend
“Oh look, the saw doesn’t even want to do it...”
Incredible test, Cody. I can understand your reticence to damage those incredible tools.
I don't own a chainsaw. I don't think I'll ever need to own a chainsaw. I certainly don't need any chaps yet I'm enjoying the video lol
I think they would protect you better. I thing the initial grab of the material pulled the outer edge up into the blade away from the skin, hence why there were no marks on the log. Great review video!
It is the weave in the kevlar vest that is part of the bullet stopping power. Don't wear the chaps when you shoot them. lol
I have just recently found your channel and I have to say I am a huge fan. I noticed that you don't seem to have too much trepidation about jumping right in, and climbing on or around the piles of timber. I was wondering if you guys ever get the timber rattlers like we do in Colorado? I would be interested to know if you are at too high an elevation or what.
how would you rank or compare leather chaps to these layered products?
Leather v fiber? Hands down fiber.
Hey man don't feel bad for those chaps. Just in this test alone you may have saved hundreds of people from injuries. Seriously. Nice work.
Soak it in acetone. And it will dissolve all that stuff. Or mek.
acetone isnt acid it wont just dissolve everything it touches
@@yummy_6410 pretty sure it very very very much loves to dissolve stuff due to it being so unstable
@@yummy_6410 Something can be very corrosive but not very acidic. How easily a substance corrodes is typically the most important factor when it comes to dissolving things.
Edit: Just realized how old this comment was. My bad.
Interesting video, liked it. Heavy and hot or not, better than bleeding out after a momentary mistake. Fun fact: plate armor wasn't that cumbersome and the weight was well distributed. Knights were pretty quick and mobile :) Keep up the good work!!
The longer the bar is the longer it will take to stop the saw with this stuff.
Well, I'm getting into the firewood business now, and I am definitely going to invest in these. Doesn't make sense not to. One other way to help mitigate injury is to use your brake if it's going at you. I at least have the reaction time to shove the brake forward, it already saved me once.
I would put an iron on "Keep on Truckin" patch on those and ride!
duct tape
at the end when you were talking about doing a test in the future, you sounded a lot like Mr. Rodgers :) brought me back to my childhood days... lol
I don’t think you cut through the chaps. It looks like they rolled over and you cut the backside with the blade. The pulled through threads are evidence of that.
Great video. I've ordered my chaps. Never really thought about it to be honest. I do appreciate the sacrifice of the Stihl's.
i subbed just for this video. Thank you!
I agree the Promark chaps are hot and heavy in the summer but I will always error on the side of caution and being over kill wearing these. I carry a 30 lb pack into the woods and will not skimp on PPE one bit.
Make sure... that if you're going to drop your chainsaw on your fool leg, you've got your chain on backwards... :)
I'd prefer to spend a couple of hours in the workshop freeing a stuck sprocket instead of spending a few hours in the ER having my leg stitched back together. Great video, thank you for taking the time to do this review.
It's worth noting that Stihl in their own safety video mentions that their chaps will not work with electric saws. Anyone know what the difference is?
Torque. Gas saws will stall, electric saws won't.
Nathan Tenney probably because the electric saws wont stall
You should watch videos of electric saws, they are constantly stalling from a little too much down pressure or heat or any number of reasons. A motor is a motor and you can easily stall a small one out, granted a three phase motor on a lathe would spin a body around to bits without batting an eyelash but electric chainsaw... eh.. Stihl probably has that disclaimer for liability reasons because you know, fresh coffee is hot and only an idiot would spill it on themselves and claim ignorance and sue for millions.
I'd say it depends on the electric chainsaw too. I use a cordless brushless chainsaw, which is designed for high fps chain speed but lower torque even when compared to a base model cordless chainsaw from the same brand. The chaps should work fine in that scenario. The older corded ones with low chain speed but high torque might be able to overcome the fibres of the cheap chaps. Someone should test it. I'd offer but Stihl's entry level chaps cost US$170 in my country!
not fast enough and the saw wont stall
3:35 I'm a lefty, so when you said there were no injuries to the right hand reported, I immediately thought to myself, "Yep, we lefties are a little more careful in our chainsaw use. LOL. Then when I thought about it, and picked up my chainsaw, I realised that by design (of my chainsaw), I hold the throttle with my right as well. Touch wood, in 30 odd years of using these leg eaters, I've never had even a close call. I have a deep, abiding respect for chainsaws. They are awesome tools, but potentially deadly if taken for granted.
If I had to work with a chainsaw all day, I'd be more than willing to spend as much on the chaps as the saw. Think of it this way, $80-$600 for chaps, or $30 for chaps and $150,000 for medical bills.
I think the more important issue with these is the heat. More exhausted you are, the more likely to make a mistake.
TheVexCortex and you can't wash them, so You can't afford 600€ every Season in You use them every day
John Athan on the contrary, Stihl tells you to wash them every season to keep the fibers fluffed up and free of oil and grease.
Chuck Sherron i was told in a chain saw Shop in Germany to never wash them with Soap or any other stuff so you don't disallign the fibres... because they go strait up and down
And that's if your able to get yourself out of the forest alive with the cheap chaps, it can be deadly if you cut into an artery
Thanks for both videos. I wish you had put a piece of paper under these as you did with the cheap ones though. Thumbs up for the upcoming video.
Could chainsaw chaps protect against a blow from an axe?
Great idea? Who would like to see this test?
I would
Wranglerstar it Wont, compleatly different MOI
Wranglerstar i would 👌👌
They would not. Exactly how Kevlar can stop a bullet, but not a knife.
Useful info AND good clean entertainment. That's why we love Wranglerstar!
Try the other side with both on a turkey or pig leg
I enjoyed the demonstration. This is my favorite channel.
I'd still rather have the cheap chaps over nothing. The cheap chaps will still save your life
Interesting. I would have thought that a good set of leather chaps would have been a great idea, but the way the material binds the chain up in the saw so fast I think leather chaps wouldn't work as good as either chaps in this video. Thank you for the review and the insight of how chaps are made. :)
Yea I think leather would just get cut quite quickly.
I would still just use the stihl chaps, even with the cut in them😂
I know here in Canada they cut down trees mostly in winter... Lakes are frozen there's less underbrush and bush roads are not buddy so they don't get stuck as much. Those bigger chaps would be better for them for sure.
Don't buy chaps buy full protective chainsaw trousers I cut trees as my job and I've cut my trousers I would like to be wearing chaps from what I've seen
I wouldn't like to be wearing chap rather
What chainsaw trousers do you recommend
Stihl. Every time.
Dean morris totally agree ! 30 years comercial with saws ! Always always get the best most comfortable full protection ! You don't get refunds when you're dead !
Hey Cody, old video I know, but do you think the saw caught the edge of the Stihl pants and folded them over a bit so that it actually grabbed the backside (black side) rather than have gone all the way through them?
Double-up on the Chinese chaps if you can't afford the Stihl.
Yeah $80,- sounds better than $120 ... but i'm more interested in the 'prosumer' level ones now ... how do they compare? ... and also, 'to what?' would love to see the saw just dropped on the log, to put the results into perspective.
im sorry, but id rather trust my life on the stihl ones. $120 to save your life is cheap
Another factor would be the solid log had no give on impact like the thigh would. The test was not perfect, but an excellent comparison of the ability of the two different materials. Like any safety gear, something is better than nothing. Now I need to pull my Husqvarna chaps out of the bin and see how many layers I have. Thanks for putting this out there.
Sometimes I run my saw in shorts and flip flops 😂 but only when it hot out lmao
I want to see what the aftermath was for the saw! Did it bind the front sprocket again? It looked like these chaps actually got the drive sprocket this time
Like the video to see if they're bulletproof!
SD Customs the kevlar is not weaved tightly like a vest it would go right threw.
I have been wearing these chaps for many years. Only had a saw nick them once....still walking just fine thanks to those chaps.
Looked like The chaps rolled over and that is how it got to the back side .
I was looking for someone who noticed...😂
I am a wildland firefighter, have been since 2005. I have chapped my saw and have seen other people chap their saw. I have never used a nine layer chap and have never had a saw cut through more than the top layer of the large thread weave, seven layer orange F.S.S. chaps that are basically standard on most any wild fire. The bunching together of the kevlar, and then weaving that into the sheets, that is the important thing to consider. How big are the weaved bunches. How many crossed threads in a given area, you in fact want a ton of air space between the fibers so that they can rip stretch and reach the clutch housing (meaning large bunches, in a loose weave). Usually on forest fires you see people resting the warmed up saw, with its stretched out chain, on their leg and the clutch housing is directly above, meaning the fibers do not have to travel as far to stop the saw. That make up the bulk of incidents, I have seen brush cutting incidents where the saw was too large and it made the sawyer off balance pulling their leg into the path of the cut. Those also do not usually occur at full speed. The only full speed incident I can think of was when an inexperienced person cutting through a pinched log which was already too big for them, dropped the saw out the bottom of the log without releasing the throttle, the saw pulled itself down to his leg and then stopped in the fibers. THE FIRST TWO LAYERS ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT, everything else is just padding. If the layers are too tight, the teeth just cut right through them, and if they are too loose they angel-hair up like the cheap pair did. Happy medium and a cautious respect for the chain, like the fire because both are uncompromising. Overhead cutting tends to have people dropping the saw without letting it come to rest first, so I never recommend that as a tool to use. Always rest the saw on the pull-cord housing between the air vent and the handle, then the chain is as far away from your leg as possible. wrap your thumb. ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS do these things and you should not have to spend $175 on perty chaps unless that is totally your thing.
to much of a variable , with the cheap chaps you cut with the nose of the saw down and with the stihl you cut with the nose up ,giving you more chain on chaps with the cheap ones , compare side by side . i would say that you should have been more careful and dropped the saw level on each pair ,as far as i can tell they are equal , they did what they were supposed to do ,and if you are a once a year chain saw guy on a budget the cheap chaps are going to do just fine , and as far as money goes if you run a saw every day and are going to drop 1400 on a saw I m sure the dealer would cut you a deal on a pair of stihl you know to match your hat boots and gloves , for the casual saw owner they are probable going to have a smaller saw , smaller chain and less HP
Razzors Edge I saw some things that were different on both tests also, favoring the stihl chaps. When he dropped it on the cheap chaps it seemed more intentional with better grip and pressure into the chaps. On the stihl chaps it seems he just “dropped” the saw on the chaps
Great idea...chaps as bullet stoppers. How about the reverse? Fabri-cobble light Kevlar vests into chaps? Just a thought...great work today!
If you are buying the cheapest chaps on Amazon you probably have a cheap little crappy chain saw. You should try the other leg of the Amazon chaps with the smallest saw you have.
Interesting angle of approaching the scenario ! +
diyVT he has requirements. The cheapest ones with at least 4 stars and 10 reviewes.
Still it's more likely that a homeowner with a tiny homelite chain saw will buy those chaps than a pro logger.
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diyVT it's more likely that a homeowner will not buy either of them. I have lived in rural MN my entire life and don't know a single person that actually wears chaps.