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One very dangerous situations is when you spot a vehicle in the lane next to you on the left. You see it coming and wait for it to pass. As soon as they pass you see an opportunity to switch lanes and pass the person in front of you only to see that person that passed you was pulling a trailer. This has append to me twice and fortunately I didn't fully commit to switching lanes.
Track up to 64 targets? So, can I wire it into my bikes anti-car missile system?
Great video, love your channel and content. Can't help thinking though that your new procedure left one thing out. Mirror, Innovv, Head Check.....Run into the back of a car. lol.
Thanks for the info but at that price I think I'll just stick to my blind spot mirrors at about Aus.$6 a set.
or just turning your head
Like with cars most don't set the mirrors up correctly
@@wobblysauce That's assuming you can set them correctly. A cars mirrors can pretty much always be set so that you can just barely see your rear fender when you're in your normal driving position. Motorcycle mirrors are a lot harder to get right, especially since you might not always be sitting the same way depending upon how you're riding or what's going on. It's an especially significant problem, if you're a wider guy on a smaller motorcycle.
@@SmallSpoonBrigadeexactly. One position affords me no views of my mirror.
For someone like me, who has serious neck issues and reduced range of motion, blind spot indicators are a an additional piece of safety equipment and actually factored into my last motorcycle purchase decision. Doesn’t replace head checks but complete the range I no longer have. Like any piece of safety equipment (abs, traction control, etc.) it’s to be used in addition to, but not replace, good practice.
Panoramic stick-on additional mirrors are a far more reliable option readily available at any parts store.
What are your camera settings? The motion blur looks quite good
I think this is a great addition to riding safety on the road. I think it definitely has a place. I think at some point I'd likely buy so I have that extra layer of safety for those times when you do a head check and a car still comes up behind unexpectedly.
This really suit for daily commute rider. When they are in busy traffic this can make easier because you can still focus ahead sn get information too
Pretty cool product and great addition to rider safety. I always see this feature on newer SUV's and pick ups while lane splitting and hope I get seen.
Heya Chaos, if you're getting with Innovv/Denali Electronics, could you ask for their H5 Helmet Cam? And do a comparison to the Insta360 and GoPro if you still have GoPro?
I think the H5 weakness is it has only a 512GB maximum size TF Card, the the H5's biggedt strength would be the long battery life OR charging the H5 with an "alternate power supply" that could ideally go into a DC Port so that the battery life isn't the limiting factor.
It's particularly difficult to look over your shoulder on a Superbike - however, the radar unit will be more difficult to fit where it won't look hideous. Good concept - will definitely suit some riders and bikes. Great, informative video!!
It's definitely a nice to have safety product, and if you only have 1 motorcycle I'd recommend it, especially to new riders. But, if you have 2 bikes it's harder to recommend. And if you have 3 or more like I do then it's just too expensive to kit out all of them with it.
If they made a system that fits on a helmet then I'd be all for it. But in the mean time I'll keep to my head checks & using a chin mounted action camera as a dash cam.
Its funny how some are complaining about the price. Nothing is too expensive if it can save lives. Skip couple of morning coffies and 300$ is payed off. I would buy it if it costs 500$
And if you are a tech person you can make it for under 50$
TBH, $300 seemed a lot less expensive than I was expecting. That was less than what I paid for my GPS.
The point is that these are completely useless on a motorcycle. A motorcycle has no b pillar, or c pillar, or however fucking many pillars and obstructions that a car has. You can turn your entire body on a motorcycle if needed and see everything completely unobstructed. Better yet, you can slightly turn your head and still see everything completely unobstructed. These could cost a couple of cents, and they would still be completely irrelevant on a motorcycle. I like chaos, but be honest, if this video wasn't sponsored would he even talk about this product? I'll let you answer that
i like this ide. I test rode a multistrada with the warning signals and was impressed how intuitive those work. i agree you would probably be best off if you attach them to your mirrors. Would have liked to see how they worked on the free way as well
I have to say I'm not sure if this is one I'd install on my bike. However, it is REALLY refreshing to see an innovative moto product that actually does exactly what it claims to do.
tech for the techies. I just put some convex stick-on mirrors to the bike's mirrors. Works for for a few dollars and a minute to install
Very cool! Great video, boss. I think, for many who do city rides, this is the one to get. Great accessory. They will sell lots of these.
Hey man how about you find a good motorcycle dash cam that works well at night also or maybe best fog lights ?
Eagerly waiting for the R1 makeover
5:53 they are called 'life savers' for a very good reason 👍🏻
I'm not sure about a place in motorcycling. I need to do a little more research on this product. But thank you for bringing this to my attention. Very interesting to say the least.
Good cruiser thingie. Adv bike thingie. Will one of these get installed on the R1? Hm. Nice to see you today, Justin!
If ADV means like just Africa Twin and Teneré 700, yeah.
If ADV means like KLR650 (right on the line of dual-sport and ADV, too heavy for most to call dual sport, and has big old gas tank for ADV style highway cruising to get to the adventure) lolno. Just get DoubleTake mirrors and position them accordingly.
Sounds great for beginner riders, but it's like you said - constantly being ahead of traffic isn't going to garner much use for it.
Are you back in South Africa?
R1 please video
Fr its like, the numbers speak for themself.
As a new sport bike rider can confirm i lost the ability to read as soon as it sat on my bike.
Bought a full Innovv cam system for my bike 5 years ago. Product was of nice materials, but several spelling mistakes on the product it self, and the parking sentry mode (Which was the only reason I bought the product), constantly had false triggers, which filled up the "Locked" part of SD card. For approx. 400 dollars the software was not good enough, they never fixed the problem even though I contacted them several times. I even was told to go out and buy a new Samsung SD card, which I did (And paid for) but it didnt help the issue.
Such a shame, because the material quality seemed very good. They might have fixed it on the current product line, but I dont trust the company anymore.
Ended up selling the bike and buying a 100 dollar cam system, with parkering sentry mode for my new bike, which worked as it should.
When you can't see something in the mirror but can if you turn your head than it's not in a blind spot. Something is in a blind spot where you can't see it even by turning your head e.g. right behind a lorry or right in front of the vehicle if its lower than a bonnet.
It feels like I just watched a long commercial. I agree with the other comment of a R1 video. not that this wasn't a great video.......I always look forward to your videos!
This was definitely an infomercial.
Will buy if there are no communication wiring. Radar->controller->light via bluetooth
I think these could cause more of a distraction than its worth. Great idea but i also think its a problem that doesn't really need solved
Agreed! It can lull you into a false sense of security and then when you get used to them and lose your good riding awareness an they fail because of rain/cold... the risk of accident rises.
To an extent yes. I would prefer if it pretty much just looked directly behind you because you've got a left and a right mirror on a motorcycle, you don't have a particularly good view directly behind you the way that you would with a car. Knowing that somebody is too close behind you so that you can potentially slow down or pull over to the side to allow them to pass would be a significant safety addition.
Try to install it on mirrors. And do a test drive during night, to see how annoying they are.
What we need are roads that are built for purpose the roads in the UK 🇬🇧 are obliterated with ruts and potholes
Seems like a gr8 solution for ppl who shouldn't be on a bikes...😅😅😅
Could they perhaps make a universal wide angle rear mounted camera? Behind you is the biggest blind spot you have.
Starting to think hes never gonna resell this bike😂
Idk how much it costs but my blind spot mirrors only costed me US$3.00. I sticked them into the main mirrors and voilà
Been waiting for eps 4 of R1 🥲
2:55 tail light, park light, driving light, some cases head light but not brake light
A 2" convex mirror solves this problem as well.
Where is the third eye from
Were is if from .
Does it come in brown?
Ever heard of the “over the shoulder” never lets you down 😂
I have an innov k6 it’s pretty good overall
Do NOT wire it into a brake light. Whenever I see a car/bike device with direct red/black wires without a Vref cable (it's a simple transistor ffs) it automatically gets binned.
Or you could rid yourself of the normal useless factory mirrors and get bar-end mirrors that give you a view of more than, and past your elbows and shoulders. Mine cover directly behind me and allow detection of flanking traffic when set properly. All without losing forward vision, where most of the hazards lie. I will still do the shoulder glance when changing lanes. This device seems to work OK but is also an additional complication.
Also, select your helmets with peripheral vision as one of the main factors. Many impinge upon this.
He Chaos, finally you uploaded a video again. I’m always curious what’s your next video. However this was just a long commercial. I know you need money to make (original) content, but this is not what we’re used to. Hopefully you will upload a R1 another GS video with less ads soon… 😅
Dude, no. Plese don't wire the system to the brake light. That's a bad idea. xD.
(1: System will only be on when you activate the brake light.
2: The system draws more power than your brakelight circuit want (especially since both the system and your brake light draws power) )
Other than that. Coo,l gadget. Made we want one. :) Good job!
PS: I only watched half of the video before typing this. Gonna watch the other half now and watch you say something that makes this comment look all silly :P
Great product, good video but still waiting for a video that shows the installation on a BMW that connects not to the battery or a hez box ( I think that's the name)
You could also connect to the back of the power socket under the seat - the canbus system will then stay on for 2 minutes after you switch off the bike - I have my driving spots wired that way.
@@pietertoerien8138 , thanks!
I need R1 video! Is been a month!
Thanks for this information, I believe I will get one.
00:00:14 In the UK we call them "life savers"
I just use convex mirrors on my flat mirrors and that works fine.
Wow a touch on the pricey side, good idea tho 😳
really clever equip, but at that price point, they barely missed the sweetspot. if they went for around 150 bucks, im sure alot of people would go for it.
I agree. Los Angeles is the most beautiful city in the world.
😂😂😂
This is pointless though because you’d turn your head when that lights up to warn you anyway?
I'm too paranoid to trust technology when it comes to observation
Fiiiiinaaaaaalllllly!!!!!!!!😝😝😝It's CC time...
Spend a few weeks on a 125 scooter and shoulder checks become the norm whether you like it or not😅
The point of a product like this is mostly to avoid being run over by Teslas. Sadly, they still are being allowed on the road even though they have no problem just driving over bikers due to not having any meaningful idea about how far away we are.
Look before you leap,always works for me...
Advantages of having an R6, there's no one behind attempting to overtake me.
I can confirm nobody reads instruction manuals.
2:57 You do know that your brake light isnt always on, right.
When your bike is on, the brake light/rear light is illuminated. Its only when you actually brake does a brighter brake light actually illuminate. So yes your brake light is always on.
@@d3v_Peanut no, my bike has 2 sets of wires 1 for the rear light and 1 for the actual brake light
@@d3v_Peanut thats the running light, not brake light.
Good device. Waiting for the Chinese version to afford. Thank you
another solution, dont have mirrors.
Now you have to look back :)
At 300$ this is just way too expensive. A proper 3rd eye would be having a 160-180 degree camera at the rear displaying onto a small LCD screen at the front. Even the cheapest aliexpress camera+screen combo is better than this setup.
"Hello TukTuk! :)"
I can't not do a head check. It's completely ingrained. This thing solves a problem that shouldn't exist.
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No - I always turn my head to have a look. Not just on a motorbike.
Good idea .
Nice bit of kit but at £260 it's waaaaay too pricey
Maybe if mirrors were shaped rectangle instead of these modern, dumb cats eye shape, we can see the corner blind spot.
2 add on parabolic mirror stick to the mirror is so much better.
amazing video
Honestly, I don't even think that you found the device useful.
Wasn't the best idea for the sponsor to send the product to you lol.
I don't have mirrors so I'm forced to look over me shoulder
Garmin is selling this feature for cyclists for years :-D
How come noone sees it or hears about it?
I'm looking for a Rear Collision Warning system, but this looks like a lot of blinking lights for no actual danger.
Skully helmet would have been better
As cool as this system is I believe this'll break within the first month of riding when used in south east Asian and Indian roads since cagers and other riders alike like to ride your ass whilst you're trying to keep yourself in one piece.
Cool😊
I would have put them on my Windshield
"This should not replace over the shoulder check". Totally useless then
No, these also look directly behind you where it's kind of tough to head check. And they can warn of Teslas that are in danger of plowing over you. They also allow you to know not to bother doing a headcheck at all because there's something in your blindspot, so don't change lanes.
Sure, I can see those BMW riders getting this system because they all worry too much, but for any other rider, for R5500 ex shipping and potentially a R7000+ system, no chance!
You are on a bike, if you want safety, buy a Volvo!
My dad always told me, no need to look in the mirrors while riding, because that's the past and it can't catch you! 😂
I use use little round bar-end mirrors and they are honestly the best things ever!
I can even see someone standing directly behind the bike which is a bonus in my book and only cost a few bucks!
This system is a gimmick or toy that 90% of riders will never need.Your eyes should be on the road and not having to worry about little flashy lights on the handle bars.
Just my 2c worth!
Cheers mate... Stay awesome!
Ridiculous!
Panoramic stick-on additional mirrors are an easier, far more reliable, and cheaper option that is readily available at any parts store.
I get cut off by people with their BSM lights illuminated on their cars all the time! It is a false sense of safety that does not cater to more aware drivers/riders.
This pursuit of electronic nannies is getting out of hand. We are far too relaxed for our own good!
I'll stick woth the third eye I was born with and continue to do shoukder checks. They've kept me safe for this long. Too many gadgets doing everything for the rider. There's a reason MTs are so popular.
You went from meters to feet in the same sentence.
It's a good Video, but a Bad Product that makes no sense in most markets.
Lol who goes to work at 9?
7:51 Personally, I dislike them in cars because it makes car drivers feel more secure/comfy and lulls them into being incredibly lackadaisical with their lane changes.
When you said before if it could identify dangerous drivers well, from an American perspective that's every driver on the road that's not on a motorcycle and has not ridden a motorcycle.
I say this because aside from changing music with a Cardo/Comms button, you're pretty well and free from distractions, so you're actually paying attention to the damn road.
Not a fan of the miniature tablets that Honda is putting on their Africa Twin and Goldwing, and not a fan of this.
Where the Innovv would excel is for people who are on Harley's, maybe they have rods in their back (because geriatric, or because never wore a jacket with backpad) up to their neck/shoulder blades and can't shoulder check easily.
The Innovv 3rd Eye is ideal for geriatrics on Harley's, if you're not an octogenarian, than use your neck.
I feel like this may be a product that sees more sales in the U.S. market than in the rest of world as the U.S. still does not allow Lane Filtering in it's proper sense.
(Yes yes (fellow) Americans, 5 states where people can go to a red light in between cars at 15mph or less, but there's still only 1 state that allows what lane filtering should be, going in between moving traffic, regardless if that traffic is 30mph or 10mph (or even two jackasses in lifted trucks going 55mph and blocking both lanes of a U.S. Highway))
For countries that aren't so car-centric that it's disgusting, Lane Filtering exists, for countries that can Lane Filter legally, I see this as a want rather than a practical need, as well.. 1. If you're lane filtering the lights are going off all the time, 2. If you can lane filter, you're not especially worried about what's behind you that you've passed.
Spending money, rather than doing a life saver maneuver? No no no if you're riding a bike like a zombie car driver it's time to hand up the helmet.
Sorry Jutin, It's a no from me, but then I'm not a biking commuter.
hallo tuktuk
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If you're not doing 'lifesaver' shouder checks then you shouldn't be riding. This might be good for people with limited neck mobility, but you shouldn't be relying on technology or even your mirrors. Use your own eyes
WTF are you talking about? What respectable rider doesn't do a head check during lane changes?
Head checks are for people that aren't driving double the posted speed limit.
head checks, no technology required...
the most useless technology for a bike
I'm all good I always do the life saver better safe than sorry :(
Only bad drivers have a true "blind spot".
There is no "blind spot" in cars if you set up your mirror correctly, or if your mirrors are too small (which can happen due to the bad design of the car you chose to spend your money on) then you have to look over your shoulder as a good driver.
For motorcycles, just look over your shoulder, it is not that hard to check your "blind spot". WHY BUY a useless 300$ dollar device!?!? Just buy bigger or more curved mirrors for a FRACTION of that price...
If you need this, you are NOT a good driver and you are recommended to get off the road (not just the motorcycle). You are leaving your life depending on a 300$ sensor and losing the habit of checking that "blind spot" which will most likely cost you your life.
This device is nothing but a money grab, and you have to be an idiot to throw your money on something this useless.
The irony of them trying to make you ride "safe" while making devices that strip you of essential habits as a motorcycle rider.
And even if you still do check your blind spot, what is the device there for?? WHY DID YOU BUY IT?? I know, I know: to waste space, money, and essential time and to look "cool and safe".
Edit: And don't be stupid and say "WhY hAvE mIrRoRs If YoU aRe GoInG tO cHeCk YoUr BlInD sPoT?"; mirrors give you at least a million times more information than this "third eye device".
Mirrors literally relay 90% of all the information you need in 90% of cases. Checking your blind spot is needed for 10% of the remaining case for that 10% of the remaining information.
And how to know when to check your blind spot? Experience, common sense, and situational awareness.
We're talking motorcycles and there's always a blind spot directly behind you, how large it is will depend on the mirrors and how well they're set up, but there's always a blindspot.
@@SmallSpoonBrigade NO, there is not "always a blind spot". With wide mirrors that are correctly set up, you will have 360 vision at a glance on your mirror. You either don't have mirrors wide enough or you don't know to set them up.
This is especially easy to do in cars, but motorcycles can have them too. You can even have a small mirror in the corner of your mirror that is extremely curved so that it reflects directly from where your normal mirror does not reach. There are all kinds of mirrors.
@@SmallSpoonBrigade even if you have a small blindspot directly behind you, it would be in a small vision angle (essentially non existing). And the original comment is criticising the stupid overpriced, useless device. Just look over your shoulder like you are supossed to, or don't and die.