Everyone knows about Achilles but hardly anyone knows about the very similar hero Bophades. Whereas Achilles was dipped into the water held by his foot, Bophades was held by the groin. Thus we have “Achilles heel” and “Bophades Nuts.”
I'd suggest that Achilles was not a hero, but the embodiment of hubris and all the foolishness that that brings. Perhaps Hector was the real hero who sacrificed where Achilles merely served his own ego.
"You won't have eyes tonight. You won't have ears or a tongue. You will wander the underworld blind, deaf and dumb, and all the dead will know: This is Hector. The fool who thought he killed Achilles." This goes much harder
@ontyam yeah hero doesn't mean what you guys seem to think in this context. Besides, if you have two sides of a conflict, no matter how much you think one side is the clear evil side, they will still have people they deem as their heroes, hence "The greek hero Achilles".
Alexander the Great almost got himself killed a few times because he wanted to be like Achilles😅 including charging directly into the lines of the enemy
Alexander The Great conquered the entire known world something nobody else in all of history has ever done Alexander The Great is literally THE ONLY HUMAN BEING WHO CONQUERED THE ENTIRE KNOWN WORLD LOL Many believe that Alexander The Great is a reincarnation of Achilles a big reason why Alexander The Great was so obsessed with Achilles because in a past life he was Achilles lol
Alexander the Great visited the site of Ancient Troy in 334 B.C., as he embarked on his campaign to avenge the Persian Empire, leading a unified Greek Army (Hellenic League). The visit to Troy held both personal and strategic significance for Alexander. On one hand, it fulfilled his long-held desire to pay tribute to his hero Achilles and connect with the glorious past of Greek mythology. On the other hand, the visit served as a powerful symbolic gesture that showcased his intention to unite the Greek world under his rule and carry on the legacy of the legendary heroes. Upon reaching the Tomb of Achilles, Alexander took a moment to pay his respects and acknowledge the greatness of the legendary warrior. Then, Alexander poured oil over the tomb, a customary practice in ancient Greek funerary rituals, symbolizing purification and sanctification. He also placed garlands of flowers and foliage on the tomb, signifying honor and respect for the deceased. Next, Alexander and Hephaestion sacrificed animals, likely horses, to honor the spirits of Achilles and Patroclus. This ritual was meant to appease the souls of the dead and seek their favor. Finally, Alexander is believed to have organized athletic games at the site, following the ancient Greek tradition of hosting such competitions in memory of deceased heroes. By paying homage to Achilles, Alexander was reinforcing his connection to the heroic past and legitimizing his claim to lead the Greek world. After Troy and his first victory at the battle of the Granicus, while leading a unified Greek Army (Hellenic League) to avenge the Persian invasions in Greece 150 years prior, Alexander the Great sent 300 suits of full Persian armour (to honor the legendary last stand of the 300 Spartans in Thermopylae) to Athens, as a votive offering to Goddess Athena, to be hung on the Acropolis. He ordered an inscription to be fixed over them; “Alexander, son of Philip and all the Greeks, present this offering from the spoils taken from the barbarians inhabiting Asia". A statue group, known as the Granicus Monument, was erected by Alexander in the sanctuary of Zeus at Dion. This consisted of bronze statues by Lysippus, of Alexander with twenty-five of his companions who had died in the initial cavalry charge, all on horseback. Alexander the Great is a sacred, immortal, legendary figure for us Greeks. Mostly for uniting all Greek City States and Kingdoms and spreading the unique Hellenic culture to the edges of the world. The rightful descendant of Achilles. Eternal Hellas 🔥🇬🇷
Aquiles, el más grande de los héroes de la guerra de Troya,y también uno de los más grandes héroes de la mitología griega, es considerado como el mayor héroe que existió y que alcanzó una fama nunca antes vista, por sus hazañas cuando esté peleaba. Hijo del gran héroe peleo y la ninfa Tetis, había sido marcado para el un destino tanto glorioso como tragico. Entrenado desde temprana edad por el centauro Quirón, el más grande entrenador de los héroes más conocidos de la guerra de Troya; y que el se enlistó en las filas griegas y ahí comenzó su trayectoria como guerrero y héroe. Antes de eso, su madre quiso ocultarlo para salvar su vida, pero el estaba dispuesto a aceptar su destino. En su entrenamiento con Quirón, conoció a Ajax el grande, otro conocido héroe que se convertiría en su más grande amigo. El era conocido por ser un guerrero imbatible, valiente, audaz; y que sabía cómo comandar un ejército, además también de su coraje, determinación y valentía en el campo de batalla; cuando entraba en cualquier pelea, lo hacía con una furia y determinación sorprendentes. Además en un momento determinado recibió una gloriosa y espléndida armadura dorada, con la que muchos lo empezaron a reconocer como un gran líder, un gran guerrero extraordinario y un gran hombre. Pero el siempre tuvo disputas con el pueblo de Troya y Aquiles y su ejército intentaron tomar por todos los medios posibles la poderosa cuidad de Troya. Se enfrentó a muchos retos, dificultades y peligros inminentes, pero el siguió adelante para alcanzar la victoria contra los troyanos. Incluso llegó a enfrentarse a Héctor, el mas audaz y valiente de los guerreros troyanos al que terminó matando y atando a su carruaje como humillación. Y contra la reina 👑 de las amazonas, que a diferencia de Héctor, reconoció el valor y coraje de la formidable y hermosa mujer. Aquiles, dirigió a su ejército con perseverancia y valentía, además de planificar siempre como iban a ser sus estrategias contra los troyanos. Durante muchos años de guerra, muerte y sangre, Aquiles intentó tomar Troya para alcanzar la cúspide de su destino. Pero el destino tenía otros planes para el, una flecha le atravesó el talón de la rodilla y terminó muriendo. Así, el más grande héroe de la guerra de Troya, murió. Pero fue siempre recordado, y su nombre se convirtió en leyenda inmortal que pasó a la historia, y generaciones después, hasta el propio emperador alejandro magno quería ser como, una leyenda inmortal. Sin duda como personaje y leyenda de guerra, Aquiles me ha resultado un personaje interesante, con un trasfondo complejo, y con varias cosas que él logró. Te quedó genial y chido el vídeo 📹😃😄, carnal, creo que este es el vídeo de tu sección de la saga de la guerra de Troya, que más me gusta. Sigue sacando videos como esté bien geniales e interesantes. Y bueno creo que no tengo más que decir.
We dont actually know if Patroclus was his lover or brother in arms. In the original myth is never stated. We do know that in Alexander the Great times they believe the lovers version, but that interpretation of the myth is hundreds of years apart from the original story.
It was common for influential men not just Alexander to have male and female lovers. They didn’t exactly view sexuality through a Christian lens because it wasn’t a THING back then and before you start to argue..bestie I’m Greek. I know my history
@LizardsLore nah it's the modern lens that mix up brotherly love that is displayed with homosexual desire that was mostly frowned upon in ancient Greece
Do you know that in Ancient Greece the ones who were gay didnt have the right to vote or take part in elections or be leaders? Do you know that in ancient Greeks 99% of the gay pottery included Satyrus? Do you know that Satyrus were considered as examples to be avoided and dirty,wicked,disgusting? Do you know that if someone was openly gay in Sparta or even worse a pederast he was exoristed or even executed? Nahhhh you have no clue you just read "Song of Achilles" a 100% not historical based book and now all of sudden you express your invalid opinion
Oh right😂😂😂 Now youtube policy deletes my comments😂😂😂😂 Ok let me write this again... RIGHT NOW YOU CALL SOMEONE AS "GAY" IN ANCIENT GREECE "GAYS" WERE CALLED "KINAIDOI" WHICH LITERALY MEANT THE ONES WHO BRING/CAUSE SHAME I THINK THIS IS ENOUGH PROOF ABOUT THE WHOLE GAY PROPAGANDA THAT MODERN AMERICAN/J3WISH LGBTQ HISTORIANS ARE SPREADING
I thought sparta encouraged homosexuality to make sure their men didn't abandon each other during battle. Also the theory of achilles and patroculus being lovers has been disputed since the creation of the illiad, I dont think there's a clear answer so it's up to interpretation (but to be fair wanting to mix your ashes with your "best friends" ashes so you can be together even in death seems to suggests they were more than friends, or maybe mingling your ashes with your bffs was normal back then idk).
I mean i have a bestfriend and a brother too and of course love them but I never call them my beloved, my own, blah blah blah and who would say to mingle their ashes and bury them together to a brother or a best friend, I mean bury me beside my friend is okay but together is what a lovers will possible say. So I hope you get it why people debate about their relationship. And even famous writers like William Shakespeare and Plato even thought that they are more than friends.
@@aphewangsa8979 good points for this era and I don’t want to say you are completely off the mark. That said there is an intense closeness you go through with other men when surviving battle. There is a bond in war that is not analogous to friendship of everyday civilians. Take that distinction and add 3000 years of cultural shift and change. I’m not saying it is impossible that they were lovers but the book just doesn’t say so, and really doesn’t even imply it unless you just really want it to in your head canon. It seems like what modern tumblr fans do with characters in cartoons and anime.
@@bensondavido4525"It's not said they're gay" My guy, no one back then was gay, because no one back then was straight. They literally didn't label relationships that way.
0:24 Let’s really think about this and be honest. Who is dipping a baby in a river like that? That’s a quick way to either drown or drop the baby. There is no situation I can imagine to ever hold a baby by the ankle. Why not dip the baby back first or stomach first?
It is said that Achilles was approximately 14 years old when he went to Troy. Can you believe the size of their testicles back then? Imagine sending a 14 year old in a battle like that nowadays.... Achilles had unimaginable leadership skills.
And thus the reason why the Tendon Connecting the heel to the Calf Muscle is called The Achilles Tendon, And where the term Achilles Heel Comes from, Named after Achilles of The Trojan War who snuck into the City of Troy in a Giant Wooden Horse. And according To Troy (2004) it was Achilles Played by Brad Pitt That entered Troy in The Horse.
En realidad su historia tiene más similitudes con la de Helena y Menelao, ya que tanto Menelao y Patroclo fueron exiliados en su adolescencia y conocieron a sus compañeros en esta etapa
@@darrensterling3039 re-affirmed? there was never any affirmation to begin with. Homer never emphasized it nor implied it. It was only Plato's interpretation, thats why no one takes it seriously and hardly anyone knows about it. Also, Greece looked down on that stuff. Do your research. There were laws in place prohibiting those of that behavior from offices, military, gatherings, etc....
wow that's awesome all complete history are Hero Achilles Greek Sparta i saw that this movie path from TV awesome very longer time i but i can't remember that jah anyway i love your history my brother father.
Mahabharata war and Trojan war has some similarities. In Mahabharata Karna is like Achilles. This is how ancient civilizations created these beautiful tales.
Its nice to see Achilles's story being told, but i feel like there should be at least a bit more focus on what he did off the battle field. He spent 18 out of 24 books not in battle, instead he was wrapped in a burrito blanked (im not joking theres an actuall historic depiction of this) , cooking, sulking, playing music, spending time with his friends, general domestic stuff. There's also this scene where he's watching the fleeing greeks die from the advancing Trojans, and he's just standing there outside his tent that's stationed away from the other greeks, jovialy playing his lyre. Achilles was a menace and the peak of toxic masculinity but god do i still love his character and story.
@@Whyyoubullyingmeeveryone doesn't know that. Especially those who are younger. Don't be rude or condescending. It's unnecessary. Let's have a decent comment section for once
There are many accounts of Achilles stories... actually... and I have personally read them... but I would say that what you said are the most common and agreed versions... thank you for actually being accurate... (there are actually many more stories... but do remember that it was Achilles' son Neoptolemus (Pyrrhus), that killed Hector's son Astyanax when they finally took the city, repeating their father's fates...)
As a Greek Achilles didn’t hide because his mother said it Achilles wanted to go to the Trojan war to get his name in glory to be remembered forever also the arrow had poison so he can enter the on part that wasn’t immortal
Not to much of a surprise considering Achillies was an embodied representation of chaos while Hector represented order. Just like how Cain’s grandson made the first steel weapons or something like that
There's no sources from the original story that imply they were homosexual, only revisited pieces of theatre who took place centuries later, and "hearsay"
Imagine if the ancient Greeks knew about the rest of the world imagine what stories they would come up with I mean imagine the stories of Japanese mythology mixed with Greek mythology imagine just how crazy the stories would get
Santa Monica Studio had blended Greek and Norse mythologies in their latest God of War game. They would most likely do it again, probably with Egyptian or Roman mythology
Achilles would make a great hero in the comic books! Achilles possesses enhanced strength, intelligence, speed, and agility, enhanced durability against bullets, and enhanced healing allowing him to grow back his limbs, organs, and head if cut off! Achilles's second power ought to be self-resurrection if he is killed off by the writer!
Though, over 5000 years ago, the most memorable moment was with Brad Pitt (Troy), yes Pitt died when Paris shot him with him, with the arrow (hitting him at the ankle).
It bothers me how no one really talks about Diomedes when discussing the Trojan war. He was Greece's second most powerful warrior after Achilles, everyone acts like it was Ajax but allegedly Diomedes was the other Greek hero Hector feared.
This is an interesting point. The Iliad is supposed to be all about Achilles, the greatest warrior of his age ... but ask your typical college class who the hero of the Iliad was, and they'll instinctively reply with horse-taming Hector, Prince of Troy. IMHO this isn't just because Hector is the underdog, and we extol the plucky underdog in our day. It's also because Hector's fighting for something worthwhile -- his people -- while Achilles is just an overblown glory hound.
The Illiad is about the Trojan War, there were several heroes on both sides including one that inherited Hercules's club, lion skin and arrows dipped in Hydra's blood. If anything, the story is about how Troy fell, and it's all because of Odysseus, that's why there's a follow-up story called the Oddysey.
The battle of Troy took place over 10 years (the Iliad just describes events in the last year of the battle). But, time is funny in fiction tales - here's another fun one: The Wedding where Paris had to give the Golden Apple of Discord to the "most fair" (where Paris chose Aphrodite so that he'd get Helen's love, which kicked off the Trojan War) was the wedding of Achilles parents, Thetis and Peleus. If Paris took Helen immediately after the wedding, and the war started immediately after that (and lasted 10 years), then Achilles was only 9 when he was fighting in the Iliad (and his kid was probably an infant with a sword, ha ha). But Achilles (and most of these characters) are like our modern day comic book heroes. How does Batman stay the same age when the Robins keep growing up? Same concept here.
I didn't like how they portrayed him in the movie: overpowered, arrogant, selfish, hypocritical and merciless. I can't respect a human who serves only himself and looks down on the weak. I cheered when he died.
It is very strange how often people depict Achilles and the other Achaean’s armor as classic Greek Armor. The actual armor from Bronze Age Aegean warriors was way cooler
I’m just curious as to how much proof we have that this actually happened. The book of Ilad was written by a guy named Homer who was blind, deaf and dumb and wrote it over 500 years after is allegedly happened.
@@TheRealKingKevin The stories of what happened in battles are embellishments. Was there a real Troy? Most likely. Was there a 10 year long battle with Gods interfering and choosing sides (and performing miracles) for immortal soldiers with slight weaknesses in their heels? Nope. The Iliad is as factual as Marvel's Captain America fighting the Red Skull in WWII. Did WWII happen? Yes. Did Captain America and Red Skull duke it out with futuristic weapons built from an Infinity Stone? Not a chance. This is the Greek's Captain America story (but more tragic).
Maurico Druon, secretary of the French Academy: "Albanians belonging to those people older than History itself. Albanian grandparents participated in the war of Troy, led by Achilles (on one side) and Hector (the other side). " Troy was a battle between North Albanians/ Illyrians Gheg und South Albanians/Pelasgians Tosk. Helen was never the reason! There were some religious conflicts between Illyrians and Pelasgians. Troy was not a city but a region with 12 communities in North Albania. You find all the myths of that time stamped on the North Albanian folkloric costumes. After Illyad, the language of Gods was Gheg/ North Albanian Dialect. (Herodotus)
@@Aethon515 That's kind of what happens in the story - at the beginning of the Iliad, the Trojans are not Greek (who are called Achaeans and led by Agamemnon), but are their own land led by King Priam. When Troy falls, they fall under the control of Agamemnon. As for the villains - both? There's heroes and villains on both sides of the story, and often the characters all do something good and something bad throughout the story. The only two "honorable" characters (and even that is debatable) are Odysseus on Agamemnon's side, and Hector on Priam's side. Everyone else it's pretty much up to the reader to decide (which is how a lot of the Greek stories and myths go, honestly). They didn't really believe in the "perfect" person idea - everyone had flaws and made mistakes that cost them dearly.
There is no real evidence that Achilles was a real person, nor that the Trojan war actually took place in the way we are told. This is a point of contention among historians from what I have researched, but at the end of the day evidence is evidence, and there is very little.
Everyone knows about Achilles but hardly anyone knows about the very similar hero Bophades. Whereas Achilles was dipped into the water held by his foot, Bophades was held by the groin. Thus we have “Achilles heel” and “Bophades Nuts.”
That joke took a little setup but when you got there….
@@ceasetheday87Lol yep😂
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I want to hate this joke so much but I just can't.
“Here lies Hector..the fool who thought he killed Achilles”
Here lies Achilles,, the arrogant gay killed by Paris.
I'd suggest that Achilles was not a hero, but the embodiment of hubris and all the foolishness that that brings. Perhaps Hector was the real hero who sacrificed where Achilles merely served his own ego.
@andrewthomas695 Hector was in all ways a hero and protector, there is no doubt. but calling achilles a fool is not a good argument.
"You won't have eyes tonight. You won't have ears or a tongue. You will wander the underworld blind, deaf and dumb, and all the dead will know: This is Hector. The fool who thought he killed Achilles."
This goes much harder
@ontyam yeah hero doesn't mean what you guys seem to think in this context. Besides, if you have two sides of a conflict, no matter how much you think one side is the clear evil side, they will still have people they deem as their heroes, hence "The greek hero Achilles".
Alexander the Great almost got himself killed a few times because he wanted to be like Achilles😅 including charging directly into the lines of the enemy
And? So? He became a Legend!
And like Achilles he died young but was immortalized
He was Great, thanks to Aristotles.
Alexander The Great conquered the entire known world something nobody else in all of history has ever done Alexander The Great is literally THE ONLY HUMAN BEING WHO CONQUERED THE ENTIRE KNOWN WORLD LOL
Many believe that Alexander The Great is a reincarnation of Achilles a big reason why Alexander The Great was so obsessed with Achilles because in a past life he was Achilles lol
almost.
Love the fighting choreography in Troy movie
Alexander the Great visited the site of Ancient Troy in 334 B.C., as he embarked on his campaign to avenge the Persian Empire, leading a unified Greek Army (Hellenic League).
The visit to Troy held both personal and strategic significance for Alexander. On one hand, it fulfilled his long-held desire to pay tribute to his hero Achilles and connect with the glorious past of Greek mythology.
On the other hand, the visit served as a powerful symbolic gesture that showcased his intention to unite the Greek world under his rule and carry on the legacy of the legendary heroes.
Upon reaching the Tomb of Achilles, Alexander took a moment to pay his respects and acknowledge the greatness of the legendary warrior.
Then, Alexander poured oil over the tomb, a customary practice in ancient Greek funerary rituals, symbolizing purification and sanctification.
He also placed garlands of flowers and foliage on the tomb, signifying honor and respect for the deceased.
Next, Alexander and Hephaestion sacrificed animals, likely horses, to honor the spirits of Achilles and Patroclus. This ritual was meant to appease the souls of the dead and seek their favor.
Finally, Alexander is believed to have organized athletic games at the site, following the ancient Greek tradition of hosting such competitions in memory of deceased heroes.
By paying homage to Achilles, Alexander was reinforcing his connection to the heroic past and legitimizing his claim to lead the Greek world.
After Troy and his first victory at the battle of the Granicus, while leading a unified Greek Army (Hellenic League) to avenge the Persian invasions in Greece 150 years prior, Alexander the Great sent 300 suits of full Persian armour (to honor the legendary last stand of the 300 Spartans in Thermopylae) to Athens, as a votive offering to Goddess Athena, to be hung on the Acropolis.
He ordered an inscription to be fixed over them; “Alexander, son of Philip and all the Greeks, present this offering from the spoils taken from the barbarians inhabiting Asia".
A statue group, known as the Granicus Monument, was erected by Alexander in the sanctuary of Zeus at Dion. This consisted of bronze statues by Lysippus, of Alexander with twenty-five of his companions who had died in the initial cavalry charge, all on horseback.
Alexander the Great is a sacred, immortal, legendary figure for us Greeks. Mostly for uniting all Greek City States and Kingdoms and spreading the unique Hellenic culture to the edges of the world. The rightful descendant of Achilles.
Eternal Hellas 🔥🇬🇷
you realize Troy never existed right
You are right mate, historians and archaeologists don’t have a clue.
“A strong bond of BROTHERLY love” uhuhhh…sure
Yeah more like a “sword fighting” relationship
AHAHAHAH I CACKED UP
Aquiles, el más grande de los héroes de la guerra de Troya,y también uno de los más grandes héroes de la mitología griega, es considerado como el mayor héroe que existió y que alcanzó una fama nunca antes vista, por sus hazañas cuando esté peleaba.
Hijo del gran héroe peleo y la ninfa Tetis, había sido marcado para el un destino tanto glorioso como tragico.
Entrenado desde temprana edad por el centauro Quirón, el más grande entrenador de los héroes más conocidos de la guerra de Troya; y que el se enlistó en las filas griegas y ahí comenzó su trayectoria como guerrero y héroe.
Antes de eso, su madre quiso ocultarlo para salvar su vida, pero el estaba dispuesto a aceptar su destino.
En su entrenamiento con Quirón, conoció a Ajax el grande, otro conocido héroe que se convertiría en su más grande amigo.
El era conocido por ser un guerrero imbatible, valiente, audaz; y que sabía cómo comandar un ejército, además también de su coraje, determinación y valentía en el campo de batalla; cuando entraba en cualquier pelea, lo hacía con una furia y determinación sorprendentes.
Además en un momento determinado recibió una gloriosa y espléndida armadura dorada, con la que muchos lo empezaron a reconocer como un gran líder, un gran guerrero extraordinario y un gran hombre.
Pero el siempre tuvo disputas con el pueblo de Troya y Aquiles y su ejército intentaron tomar por todos los medios posibles la poderosa cuidad de Troya.
Se enfrentó a muchos retos, dificultades y peligros inminentes, pero el siguió adelante para alcanzar la victoria contra los troyanos.
Incluso llegó a enfrentarse a Héctor, el mas audaz y valiente de los guerreros troyanos al que terminó matando y atando a su carruaje como humillación.
Y contra la reina 👑 de las amazonas, que a diferencia de Héctor, reconoció el valor y coraje de la formidable y hermosa mujer.
Aquiles, dirigió a su ejército con perseverancia y valentía, además de planificar siempre como iban a ser sus estrategias contra los troyanos.
Durante muchos años de guerra, muerte y sangre, Aquiles intentó tomar Troya para alcanzar la cúspide de su destino.
Pero el destino tenía otros planes para el, una flecha le atravesó el talón de la rodilla y terminó muriendo.
Así, el más grande héroe de la guerra de Troya, murió.
Pero fue siempre recordado, y su nombre se convirtió en leyenda inmortal que pasó a la historia, y generaciones después, hasta el propio emperador alejandro magno quería ser como, una leyenda inmortal.
Sin duda como personaje y leyenda de guerra, Aquiles me ha resultado un personaje interesante, con un trasfondo complejo, y con varias cosas que él logró.
Te quedó genial y chido el vídeo 📹😃😄, carnal, creo que este es el vídeo de tu sección de la saga de la guerra de Troya, que más me gusta.
Sigue sacando videos como esté bien geniales e interesantes.
Y bueno creo que no tengo más que decir.
We dont actually know if Patroclus was his lover or brother in arms.
In the original myth is never stated.
We do know that in Alexander the Great times they believe the lovers version, but that interpretation of the myth is hundreds of years apart from the original story.
It was common for influential men not just Alexander to have male and female lovers. They didn’t exactly view sexuality through a Christian lens because it wasn’t a THING back then and before you start to argue..bestie I’m Greek. I know my history
It is called Brotherly Love. Let us not pervert everything.
@LizardsLore nah it's the modern lens that mix up brotherly love that is displayed with homosexual desire that was mostly frowned upon in ancient Greece
@@LizardsLorewell this american can tell where and why you're quite wrong on multiple levels... 😂
If they made a current version they would definitely make him gay. Especially if Disney made a movie based on his life.
Achilles:"My leg!"
Why do I hear a fish character in spongebob😂
Help
@@wilbertvengco498 You mean Fred?
Could you make another Video about Hector and how he lead the trojans in the War?
I second this
Man I liked Hector's sense of dignity way more, unlike Achilles...
Hector was one of the Nine Worthies…Achilles was not deemed a worthy model.
Can't wait for the guy to make a video about the legend of Testichilles!
And his best friend bigus dikus.
He has a wife, you know. You know what she’s called?
@@jacksongibbs8998your mom?
This is definitely a series worth waiting for.
Good job & 2 videos in the same day 👍🏻 nice ⚔️
The way I laughed at “brotherly love”. Sure bestie
Do you know that in Ancient Greece the ones who were gay didnt have the right to vote or take part in elections or be leaders? Do you know that in ancient Greeks 99% of the gay pottery included Satyrus? Do you know that Satyrus were considered as examples to be avoided and dirty,wicked,disgusting? Do you know that if someone was openly gay in Sparta or even worse a pederast he was exoristed or even executed? Nahhhh you have no clue you just read "Song of Achilles" a 100% not historical based book and now all of sudden you express your invalid opinion
Oh right😂😂😂 Now youtube policy deletes my comments😂😂😂😂 Ok let me write this again... RIGHT NOW YOU CALL SOMEONE AS "GAY" IN ANCIENT GREECE "GAYS" WERE CALLED "KINAIDOI" WHICH LITERALY MEANT THE ONES WHO BRING/CAUSE SHAME I THINK THIS IS ENOUGH PROOF ABOUT THE WHOLE GAY PROPAGANDA THAT MODERN AMERICAN/J3WISH LGBTQ HISTORIANS ARE SPREADING
@@asoasotriadiotheir trying to claim everything
@@asoasotriadioFinally someone who has a brain
I thought sparta encouraged homosexuality to make sure their men didn't abandon each other during battle. Also the theory of achilles and patroculus being lovers has been disputed since the creation of the illiad, I dont think there's a clear answer so it's up to interpretation (but to be fair wanting to mix your ashes with your "best friends" ashes so you can be together even in death seems to suggests they were more than friends, or maybe mingling your ashes with your bffs was normal back then idk).
I imagine him saying “my leg” like the fish from SpongeBob when he got hit with the arrow
Fred
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Never been so early😂😂 Nicely done!!
Excellent video.
In the Illiod, we have not one but 2 Hero, Hector and Achilles
3 counting Oddessus.
ah patroclus, achilles's faithful companion. and they were roomates
Hmmmm Achilles and Patroclus are not even hinted at being gay in the actual narrative. Thats just Roman era Tumblr style Shipping
I mean i have a bestfriend and a brother too and of course love them but I never call them my beloved, my own, blah blah blah and who would say to mingle their ashes and bury them together to a brother or a best friend, I mean bury me beside my friend is okay but together is what a lovers will possible say. So I hope you get it why people debate about their relationship. And even famous writers like William Shakespeare and Plato even thought that they are more than friends.
@@aphewangsa8979 good points for this era and I don’t want to say you are completely off the mark.
That said there is an intense closeness you go through with other men when surviving battle.
There is a bond in war that is not analogous to friendship of everyday civilians.
Take that distinction and add 3000 years of cultural shift and change.
I’m not saying it is impossible that they were lovers but the book just doesn’t say so, and really doesn’t even imply it unless you just really want it to in your head canon.
It seems like what modern tumblr fans do with characters in cartoons and anime.
@@bensondavido4525"It's not said they're gay"
My guy, no one back then was gay, because no one back then was straight. They literally didn't label relationships that way.
Oh my god, they were room mates.
good one 😊
hey i want to ask what editing software u r using for your videos
0:24 Let’s really think about this and be honest. Who is dipping a baby in a river like that? That’s a quick way to either drown or drop the baby. There is no situation I can imagine to ever hold a baby by the ankle. Why not dip the baby back first or stomach first?
Same reason you made this comment ignorance 😂
Water birth
The legendary Achilles the undefeatable warrior himself is very amazing ⚔️⚔️⚔️☺️☺️☺️💖💖💖💪💪💪
Who was Achilles? Background. Troy and Greece, explained. 🧐📝💜👍📹
It is said that Achilles was approximately 14 years old when he went to Troy. Can you believe the size of their testicles back then? Imagine sending a 14 year old in a battle like that nowadays.... Achilles had unimaginable leadership skills.
Yeah but they took years in Greece since there was no wind
Actually that's a myth. It was 22. Check it out. I thought so too, but it turns out to be 22.
And thus the reason why the Tendon Connecting the heel to the Calf Muscle is called The Achilles Tendon, And where the term Achilles Heel Comes from, Named after Achilles of The Trojan War who snuck into the City of Troy in a Giant Wooden Horse. And according To Troy (2004) it was Achilles Played by Brad Pitt That entered Troy in The Horse.
Achilles and Patroculus were friends about as much as Helen and Paris were.
En realidad su historia tiene más similitudes con la de Helena y Menelao, ya que tanto Menelao y Patroclo fueron exiliados en su adolescencia y conocieron a sus compañeros en esta etapa
They were cousins
There were greeks, not Pakistani
@@dennismasters8669 No they weren't
Achiles: I used to be a warrior like you then I got an arrow to heel
“Faithful companion”. Yeah, we know what that implies…
No! Thats just a rumor. Homer never made it clear. Besides, Greek culture looked down upon that behavior. It was shameful to them.
@@alfasiger4178no, plato reaffirmed that the relationship between patroclus and achilles was romantic
@@darrensterling3039 re-affirmed? there was never any affirmation to begin with. Homer never emphasized it nor implied it. It was only Plato's interpretation, thats why no one takes it seriously and hardly anyone knows about it.
Also, Greece looked down on that stuff. Do your research. There were laws in place prohibiting those of that behavior from offices, military, gatherings, etc....
@@alfasiger4178 BUT HALF THE GODS HAD MALE LOVERS SO LIKE???
@@flynnchampion3617 Can you give me examples?
wow that's awesome all complete history are Hero Achilles Greek Sparta i saw that this movie path from TV awesome very longer time i but i can't remember that jah anyway i love your history my brother father.
"Brotherly love" ha!
Mahabharata war and Trojan war has some similarities. In Mahabharata Karna is like Achilles. This is how ancient civilizations created these beautiful tales.
Its nice to see Achilles's story being told, but i feel like there should be at least a bit more focus on what he did off the battle field.
He spent 18 out of 24 books not in battle, instead he was wrapped in a burrito blanked (im not joking theres an actuall historic depiction of this) , cooking, sulking, playing music, spending time with his friends, general domestic stuff.
There's also this scene where he's watching the fleeing greeks die from the advancing Trojans, and he's just standing there outside his tent that's stationed away from the other greeks, jovialy playing his lyre. Achilles was a menace and the peak of toxic masculinity but god do i still love his character and story.
A nice story - epic
THIS EXPLAINS
HOW THE HEEL WAS NAMED
No duh
@@Whyyoubullyingmeeveryone doesn't know that. Especially those who are younger. Don't be rude or condescending. It's unnecessary. Let's have a decent comment section for once
Thank you for this video.
Good video of the greatest hero Achilles.
“brotherly love” we living in alabama then?
There are many accounts of Achilles stories... actually... and I have personally read them... but I would say that what you said are the most common and agreed versions... thank you for actually being accurate... (there are actually many more stories... but do remember that it was Achilles' son Neoptolemus (Pyrrhus), that killed Hector's son Astyanax when they finally took the city, repeating their father's fates...)
A great man in the great war
His weak point was his heel not his ankle - hence Achilles Heel
i like how you spent about 10 seconds talking about his heel and weakness, but went on and on about random battles
As a Greek Achilles didn’t hide because his mother said it Achilles wanted to go to the Trojan war to get his name in glory to be remembered forever also the arrow had poison so he can enter the on part that wasn’t immortal
Its a shame that the son of Achilles was a genuine monster of a person
Not to much of a surprise considering Achillies was an embodied representation of chaos while Hector represented order. Just like how Cain’s grandson made the first steel weapons or something like that
Achilles the warrior for all Time 👑
Eventhough, Achilles met his end. The blood of his son rise from the ground.
HECTOR!!!
can you just let the children have a good sleep, please
Achilles, the 🐐 for sure
When are you going to make the story of Hector, Ajax, Sarpedon, Patroclus, and Aeneas
❤🤍💙 all your videos mate👍
When he said “brotherly love” , I laughed... For real bro? You don't know anything about the relationship of Achilles and Patroclus?
ever heard of euphemism?
There's no sources from the original story that imply they were homosexual, only revisited pieces of theatre who took place centuries later, and "hearsay"
@@Cesare-Borgia the greeks didnt distungish beetween str8 and homosexaul relationships, any sing of love is a sing of love gender regardless
@@SeeUinHistoryEver heard about lying to your audience?
Weren't they friends? Weren't they brothers in arms? Wasn't there affection between them? where is the lie, exactly?
Imagine if the ancient Greeks knew about the rest of the world imagine what stories they
would come up with I mean imagine the stories of Japanese mythology mixed with Greek mythology
imagine just how crazy the stories would get
Santa Monica Studio had blended Greek and Norse mythologies in their latest God of War game. They would most likely do it again, probably with Egyptian or Roman mythology
Or India. Zeus meets Kali and nopes right out of that
Koei Tecmo blended Greek, Norse, Chinese and Japanese mythologies in Warriors Orochi 4.@@containedhurricane
@@containedhurricanenot gon lie I'd would rather be in a roman mythology then Egypt in gow but either one I'm down for
If she had just grabbed the other leg and dipped him again he would've been totally immortal. Shame...
Achilles would make a great hero in the comic books! Achilles possesses enhanced strength, intelligence, speed, and agility, enhanced durability against bullets, and enhanced healing allowing him to grow back his limbs, organs, and head if cut off! Achilles's second power ought to be self-resurrection if he is killed off by the writer!
I might have said instead: "a destiny that brought premature death, but also eternal Glory." After all, we still remember his name.
Achilles being invulnerable isn't part of the original story. It's something the Romans added later.
You might say it was a dirty heel that did in Achilles. 😁
What about his son? What happened to him?
He was killed after R wording someone’s wife
Can you make a video about Achilles son after the war
“Brotherly love” he said
Pra mim eo maior semiDeus de todos belo impecável no combate
could everybody arguing about the relationship between partoclus and achilles start citing sources please?
Arthur Dane vs Achilles HAS to happen. Personally I’ll pay 15 percent of that fight
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The true hero of the Illiad is, was and forever will remain...
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Hector
Though, over 5000 years ago, the most memorable moment was with Brad Pitt (Troy), yes Pitt died when Paris shot him with him, with the arrow (hitting him at the ankle).
It bothers me how no one really talks about Diomedes when discussing the Trojan war.
He was Greece's second most powerful warrior after Achilles, everyone acts like it was Ajax but allegedly Diomedes was the other Greek hero Hector feared.
Achilles:im coming for you tractor. Hector:........................ Hector:come and get me anklelocks. Achilles:......................
Paris was a coward that never had the skills to fight on the front lines
This was the most stressful BL i've read
There may have been a real person who inspired Achilles...thousands of years ago
Meanwhile in FGO..... He's a 5 Star Rider Class Servant and he's voiced by One Punch Man himself.
so that's why it's called Achilles heel, arguably the most devastating injury in sports
U didn't know that before?
@@BuriedAlien-TRN242not a lot of people don't know bout these myths so it's cool seeing people learn new things
I don't care what anyone says, Brad Pitt delivered an amazing performance as Achilles in Troy.
Yeah he did ngl
Why? Did anyone ever said the opposite? 😂😂
i thought this was the story of achilles. its in fact the story of his part in the trojan war based on movie and not the books
Yeah I was listening to this and thinking I don't remember this in the book...
Thumbnail looks like Hector killing Patroclo from The Troy 😅
Look at all these achilles haters 😂 he was the best and influenced the best Alexander The Great ! Cry more
Brad Pitt
2004's Troy was more accurate than most 'historical' moves and doc made today
Looking at you Netflix Queen Cleopatra & Njinga
This is an interesting point. The Iliad is supposed to be all about Achilles, the greatest warrior of his age ... but ask your typical college class who the hero of the Iliad was, and they'll instinctively reply with horse-taming Hector, Prince of Troy. IMHO this isn't just because Hector is the underdog, and we extol the plucky underdog in our day. It's also because Hector's fighting for something worthwhile -- his people -- while Achilles is just an overblown glory hound.
Achilles was in essence a bully who happened to be the greatest warrior on the Greek side. It was Odysseus who won the trojan war for the greeks !
The Illiad is about the Trojan War, there were several heroes on both sides including one that inherited Hercules's club, lion skin and arrows dipped in Hydra's blood. If anything, the story is about how Troy fell, and it's all because of Odysseus, that's why there's a follow-up story called the Oddysey.
glory
There can only be one
His beloved companion 🌈
Someone here said he was 14 at Troy but he had a son who was the trojan horse attack. Was that solder like 2 years old
The battle of Troy took place over 10 years (the Iliad just describes events in the last year of the battle). But, time is funny in fiction tales - here's another fun one: The Wedding where Paris had to give the Golden Apple of Discord to the "most fair" (where Paris chose Aphrodite so that he'd get Helen's love, which kicked off the Trojan War) was the wedding of Achilles parents, Thetis and Peleus. If Paris took Helen immediately after the wedding, and the war started immediately after that (and lasted 10 years), then Achilles was only 9 when he was fighting in the Iliad (and his kid was probably an infant with a sword, ha ha). But Achilles (and most of these characters) are like our modern day comic book heroes. How does Batman stay the same age when the Robins keep growing up? Same concept here.
Here lies Achilles the egoistic arrogant that comes with hubris. Here lies Hector defender & hero of Troy.
I didn't like how they portrayed him in the movie: overpowered, arrogant, selfish, hypocritical and merciless. I can't respect a human who serves only himself and looks down on the weak. I cheered when he died.
4:25 🤦♂️
Let them say that I lived in the time of Achilles
It is very strange how often people depict Achilles and the other Achaean’s armor as classic Greek Armor. The actual armor from Bronze Age Aegean warriors was way cooler
Yes i saw Troy.
Is there anything actually to this? Like how do we know there was a guy like this?
I’m just curious as to how much proof we have that this actually happened. The book of Ilad was written by a guy named Homer who was blind, deaf and dumb and wrote it over 500 years after is allegedly happened.
Boss none of this happened 😂. This is a myth from a fiction book
@@traeyoungfan6041 😂 well then tell that to all the people who believe the country Turkey is the modern day Troy
@@TheRealKingKevin The stories of what happened in battles are embellishments. Was there a real Troy? Most likely. Was there a 10 year long battle with Gods interfering and choosing sides (and performing miracles) for immortal soldiers with slight weaknesses in their heels? Nope. The Iliad is as factual as Marvel's Captain America fighting the Red Skull in WWII. Did WWII happen? Yes. Did Captain America and Red Skull duke it out with futuristic weapons built from an Infinity Stone? Not a chance. This is the Greek's Captain America story (but more tragic).
he is always the vanguard.. means infront of army
Maurico Druon, secretary of the French Academy: "Albanians belonging to those people older than History itself. Albanian grandparents participated in the war of Troy, led by Achilles (on one side) and Hector (the other side). "
Troy was a battle between North Albanians/ Illyrians Gheg und South Albanians/Pelasgians Tosk. Helen was never the reason! There were some religious conflicts between Illyrians and Pelasgians.
Troy was not a city but a region with 12 communities in North Albania. You find all the myths of that time stamped on the North Albanian folkloric costumes.
After Illyad, the language of Gods was Gheg/ North Albanian Dialect. (Herodotus)
ok Who were the villains the Greeks or the Trojans?
Both are greeks, trojans are greek too
@@Aethon515 That's kind of what happens in the story - at the beginning of the Iliad, the Trojans are not Greek (who are called Achaeans and led by Agamemnon), but are their own land led by King Priam. When Troy falls, they fall under the control of Agamemnon. As for the villains - both? There's heroes and villains on both sides of the story, and often the characters all do something good and something bad throughout the story. The only two "honorable" characters (and even that is debatable) are Odysseus on Agamemnon's side, and Hector on Priam's side. Everyone else it's pretty much up to the reader to decide (which is how a lot of the Greek stories and myths go, honestly). They didn't really believe in the "perfect" person idea - everyone had flaws and made mistakes that cost them dearly.
Wouldn't his foot also be a weakness?
lol “brotherly love”
There is no real evidence that Achilles was a real person, nor that the Trojan war actually took place in the way we are told. This is a point of contention among historians from what I have researched, but at the end of the day evidence is evidence, and there is very little.
Your next mayor of Dalton 😅
He was a Nepheliem