Will say one thing I never liked about Vegeta's techniques... as soon as he learns a new one, he basically forgets all previous ones. It's like a pokemon. "Vegeta is trying to learn Final Flash! Vegeta can only know one move, please select a move to forget!"
Side note: Vegeta can actually use ki like a sword. In the manga, he used a spirit sword like technique to preventing himself from falling off the tournament of power arena. So we know where Vegito gets it from.
That’s a great shout! I mean it could also be the opposite. That fusing into vegito made him learn that technique. Alternatively, it could just be that he learned it after seeing Goku black and Zamasu. Though I prefer the idea that vegito got it from his royal blood counter part.
Vegetto stole it from a movie, but in-verse it would make sense Vegeta made it (along with Banshee Blast) since the one who makes technique is always Vegeta in canon. Super having him use it was good, but not the way he employed it (nor waiting until after Zamasu had). The flex was weird to me. He had already demonstrated a ki augmented strike (with aura) against Goku in the first fight. Vegetto's fully body aura barrier likely would be Vegeta, too.
@@BigVEE Oh yeah, I forgot he did the ki infused punch in the Saiyan Saga. That would make sense for it being a precursor to what he'll eventually form and perfect when fused into Vegito.
@@MarshallXeno Nappa also had such a thing. Even a full body (electric) aura barrier (not unlike Vegetto), just that he didn't use it for anything notable. Nappa used a variant of Dirty Fireworks (odd move that destroys without travel time **the canon depiction of Death Wave should just be that as with the move that killed Krillin is close to theft from Vegeta**) on the environment, too. There was overlap in the moves they knew/used. Technically as an Oozaru Vegeta had a mouth blast, as well (mind you, even Gohan did **just not Goku**).
Any fighter with Ki control can do that if they choose. DB moves aren’t unique to the users. They’re just special applications of the energy. For example Frieza’s Death Beam is a thin beam that pierces. Krillin can make a sharp disk. That’s why Vegeta could copy the Destructo Disk just from seeing it.
@@giodoubledover More or less, yes. He really should have used his ability to focus even a full-body blast not for an AoE, but a directed beam (at least) with regards to Final Atonement. His conclusion that Buu just needed to be blown to bits is a silly logical leap when even Cell would recover from this. Testing the water with a ki disc would have been enough (Atomic Blast as a technique looks neat, but I'm not seeing the point of a piercing move that isn't punching above its weight to that extent) to realize what he learned.
I think what makes the Final Flash the best was, at the moment, Cell was trying to prove a point. "Do your worst, and I won't even feel it." Then Vegeta busts this out and, while he doesn't kill him, disintegrates half his body instantly humiliating him. Truly a recognizable moment of defiance and something I wish Vegeta could have done to Frieza before he died.
Vegeta's humiliation ritual against Frieza was owed to fan letters. Kondo was already making him keep Vegeta around, but he couldn't defy this editor. Fans saying to not kill Vegeta was too much. He knew he could just bring him back, so he acted out. Not only killing him (briefly), but returning him a different character. Also, the death would be super embarrassing (Goku tier jobbing). Even cried for the only time in canon (noted as first in his life, too).
The first Jobber Pose was Giran (on Goku). The CURSE was Goku CHEATING and being forgiven (then miracles a tail regen to save him from taking the L anyway). Tien was the first to beat the curse (against Roshi). In Z, Goku is the first to use it. Jobs to Raditz (one-shot). Second user? Goku again (against VEGETA and Nappa). Said he would win against both without KK. Needed KK and a cheapshot for the latter. Jobs completely to the former. Vegeta finally uses it? Beats Semi. Loses rematch. Later Gohan uses it with Dabura. Vegeta helped make it a win (by forfeit) through his stunt intentionally trying to get charmed for an amp. Next time Gohan used it? Vegeta wasn't there (and Gokek's firstborn got a horrible beating). But that's canon talk. You kids love citing filler and the like.
Piccolo has a lot of jank. HZG is a guided ki barrage (combining homing with ki spam). Light Grenade didn't punch above its weight much at all (doing nada to the stronger target unlike FF). SBC proved itself with Raditz, but people WRONGLY downplay it as impractical charge (then point to non-canon). The correct version is 2H and instant (used on Nappa **who evaded**). Masenko is wrongly credited to him (he never used this in reality). Also, it is weaker than KMHM (which is not an especially good move). Limb stretch should give utility, but that's a natural ability. As with size changing though you can pretend it is spirit control (this was also awful as it didn't make him stronger). Can't pretend regen is a technique. Clothes beam is an ability (and one he doesn't use well). An overreach to include. Explosive Wave is very whatever (and led to him jobbing for attacking all over the place instead of just his target). Mouth blast is serviceable for utility. Same for eye beams. Antenna shock needed more work. Filler has him with multi-body (not used well). Probably should have copied multi-arm while at it. Flight is a technique, but nobody even thinks to include it, so whatever. We're more looking to deal DMG, right? He knows ECW enough to reverse, but we never see him actually do the thing per se. It has clear utility value. Destructive Wave punches over its weight class enough that it threatened to kill the slightly stronger Goku in the original showing (Tien had to interfere). Still, at least he was making his own stuff. Not bad for how young he is (even if he does have a head start with magical abilities and his father's memories **potentially some from Kami so older than he is physically in that regard**). His only master was King Kai (who taught him nothing).
Its still pretty cool, its like a stronger kamehameha but obv more taxing. The only beams that would be stronger than it if used by the same people are the super kamehameha(arguably equal), the fusion beams, and a fully charged special beam cannon.
Guess Slugger didn't want to be purely himself anymore. Was happy with the amps as a multi-fusion (merged being). Doubled down with a wish for potential unlock (that got a bonus for free). How unfortunate to see someone who works so hard go this far into welfare territory (Gohan skipping the hardwork in his own case).
The Kienzan was probably something he saw another Alien do, but Nappa never saw it before, and was unknowingly going to die. In fact its why Vegeta realy decided to kill him. He just Finished up Krillin's kill that he stole from him earlier.
@@gladionlunix5547 Nah, Vegeta already knew how to do it, but just didn't show it off to Nappa (instead warning him when he recognized it). Vegeta doesn't like to do what others do at all. Frieza isn't even one for learning (and Goku is a person assigning credit or taking it without any idea of what he's talking about). His movelist is super sad, by the way. Very little of substance in reality (Nova Strike is about the only thing I'd praise from him). Krillin did okay for himself figuring a ki disc out, but otherwise his best is Scatter Shot (splitting a whole attack with cast offs able to kill a bunch of foes relative to you isn't a bad showing at all **not so simple as a glorified ki blast barrage**). Actual theft with Solar Flare (to the point he wrongly gets to keep it as his own **wild stuff with games sometimes having him use it, but not Tien**). Copied KMHM (nobody is taught this). But enough about Chestnut.
When it comes to the second time of him using final explosion/atonement, I feel Vegeta actually would’ve died if he both wasn’t strong enough and didn’t have good enough ki control and that would’ve been probably the saddest thing to happen in the tournament next to Both Roshi and Android 17’s sacrifices. The fact that we had 3 close calls like that is nutty itself.
He was also a lot less willing to die compared to back with Buu since even if it did work theres still Jiren to deal with; probably also helped that he would know to keep it under control since his allies could be caught in the blast and its not like he was trying to kill Toppo and get disqualified.
@@thepixelman4776 good point yeah, but I know for a fact if he did it against Jiren, he knew he could go all in and at the most hurt jiren enough to mean something without killing him, although it would cost him his life.
It is still folly not to direct the attack as he demonstrated he could with Galaxy Breaker. Very wasteful attacking a bunch of places where the enemy is not.
You know the final flash is cool when it is almost never effective yet every time it’s used it still manages to make some of the coolest moments in the entire series
Factoring Rule of Cool and Story Circumstance is a mistake. Only utility and potency should factor. The value of the thing (not how it gets worked). Not ideal to blind subjective with objective (favoring the former).
19:28 Like all Ki attacks including the Kamehameha, it is a variable. The Big Bang attack can be shot as an orb or as a beam depending on the use case. The Kamehameha has been shot as an orb before. So have many attacks.
KMHM from Goku was dual-wielded as guided orbs (Torpedo), yes. That aside from guiding the beam, using his feet to propel or a damned barrage. However, these are CANON. The BBA instances noted were not. Only one exists (and was totally unproven as it went after a wounded, off-guard and much weaker foe).
I sure hope you continue on creating Dragon Ball characters attacks from worst to best. We truly need a ranking like this so we know each and every character's attacks too.
The final flash scene is one of the best moments in DBZ. The drama, the intensity of the animation, his muscles, the electricity, not actually seeing the Ki, Trunks and Krillin shaking in fear, the weather changing, the earth shaking, and that falconer soundtrack.
@@moodzi1322 I'm just glad you didn't meme on it saying the move has an impractical charge time (only to do Galaxy Buster dirty for some reason). Canon has him ready right away, but provoking in the hopes to NOT get evaded.
The way you describe these attacks takes me back, way back. Back to the early 00's and middle school to times where i would try to get into role playing some custom dragon ball z on some Internet forums... Man we all did cringe things as young kids huh?
If used correctly, Vegeta’s Energy Blast Volley can actually be a pretty badass finisher. Anybody remember the absolute onslaught he put Ginyu through?
Love how Vegeta has a great low 10% battery warning where he holds that one arm. So other than Vegeta's technique 'spam blast uselessly' I agree with the top 4 picks even in that order.
I heard that the "Final Flash" was the strongest attack in the cell saga. Cell just... dodged it. Watch his various usages of final flash and you'll notice a fundamental aspect to it. I would go so far to say it is part of the attack: He uses it when he has lost the fight. Using his pride as a facade, he challenges the opponent "your stronger than me? You're mocking my pride as being bigger than my strength? If I'm so much weaker than you, stand there and wait for me to charge up all my strength."
Also the fact that final flash first showed up after vegeta and trunks trained in the time chamber and that trunks knows it as well just adds to its coolness.
What really makes Final Shine stand out to me was that most blasts are blue, purple or yellow. The beam being green doesn’t really make that much of a difference in all honesty but for some reason it just looks cool as hell to me
*Goku's NOTE: This in Koyama verse, of course (inspired by a canon event exaggerated manifold over repeatedly until the meme of Dragon Fist was born into an absolute absurdity).
Could be that Toriyama forgot but when Goku used the kamehameha it boosted his power temporarily by 45% just before firing the beam. Initially Goku had a power level of 416 but when using the Kamehameha it jumped to 924. If we were to factor this Vegeta’s Galick Gun is actually really strong.
I've always considered the beam version of Big Bang Attack to be a separate technique. Vegeta's fight with Android 19 is generally considered to be the first use of Big Bang Attack but he used the beam version all throughout the Namek Arc (In fact it was probably is most used attack). So in my mind Big Bang Attack is the energy ball version while the beam version is Big Bang Cannon (no a canon name, just what I call it in my head.)
Would love a Piccolo list like this. Feels like the only two techniques of his that get any spotlight are special beam and hellzone grenade. Also, at 22:58 did you mean fundamental?
Small correction: it's not a beam in Buu's Fury. The move works differently though. In LoG2, it shoots forward and hits once, but in Buu's fury, it is a ball that does multiple hits as long as it is in contact with the foe.
Weird headcanon. There is no known drawback for GBF (he used it low on energy, beat up, etc. on two stronger foes to blow them to bits without really harming himself). FF has no charge time in canon. He near instantly had it ready for Cell, but needed to provoke him to avoid it being dodged. The anime deceive you with dramatics (the 10s long Spirit Bomb was made 3m as one fun example).
So I would like to clarify on Super saiyan 4 vegetas attack with both. So it is said that it was suppose to be the final flash not the final shine attack. Because on the game Dokkan battle LR SSj 4 goku and vegeta and the normal Str lr ssj 4 vegeta have the same animations as the anime and their attacks are actually named final flash.
>Super Neat, but not canon. Vegeta has no masters. If including that material, it is like Kenny says (with Pybara as the only one doing real teaching of technique **as KK was to Goku where other masters did nothing**).
@@BigVEE Do you live under a rock? It had been long confirmed that the anime and comic of super are official continuities of Z’s anime and comic, respectively.
Funnily enough even Goku couldn't do anything with the generic ki spam. The only character who was really effective with it was Gogeta against Broly. That definitely did a lot of damage.
Despite the move's extremely low success rate, the issues with the ki blast barrage come more from who Vegeta uses it against than the technique itself. This is best demonstrated, ironically, when *Goku* uses the technique during the Cell games. Both in the anime and manga, Cell does seem to suffer real damage from the barrage--he has to spend energy on a barrier to escape, and even commends Goku on "forcing" him to do so. While the ki blast barrage technique is less powerful and less energy-efficient than many of his other techniques, it does have its own unique merits. Firstly, it doesn't really need time to charge; you just throw out some ki blasts. Then, if it hits, you can choose to keep blasting or to save ki and press your advantage by rushing in. If it misses, adjusting your aim is easier than trying to bend a beam or blast back around, and missing a few ki blasts spends less ki than missing a beam. Personally, I would at least put it above Explosive Wave, especially since it is arguably Vegeta's 5th-most iconic move, under the Final Explosion, Big Bang Attack, Final Flash, and Galick Gun. Comparatively, the Galaxy Breaker only looks powerful because of who it was used against; it was basically just a flex. A simple one-handed charged ki wave would have hit just as hard with less energy spent--Vegeta just had so much energy to flaunt (compared to everyone else on the battlefield) that he saw no need to be conservative. Similarly, Dirty Fireworks is also most likely a technique that only works against opponents weaker than him, though in this case, I believe it probably is fairly energy efficient.
At the same time though, I suppose this video is judging attacks by more than just their effectiveness, so I suppose its extremely low success rate for Vegeta does provide some justification for it being at the lowest spot, even if it is stronger than some of his other techniques.
Ki barrage defense is on point. It is a ranged melee barrage (using ki) in essence. Galaxy Breaker didn't earn credit via whom it killed, but deserves a nod for the concept of full body blast. He SHOULD have done this to focus Final Atonement upon Buu (if not a Dirty Fireworks Shine Shot to Combust him). DF possibly only letting him invade the body of weaker foes could be an anti-hax measure, yes. Still not a thing you can defend against doing huge DMG for little energy with zero travel time even were it so he can't just start it inside a foe relative to him (dropped guard cases beware **read: Goku**). The effectiveness the video favors is not potential of the move, but mere results (plot can put something over with merit or hold it back undeservedly). Not good.
>GBF in a proper game and not some joke now Oh? **checks** Given little fanfare, orange/red (bad choice) and wrong posture. It is technically in the game. A start, I suppose. Thanks for the heads up. I suppose the ban on Toyo is lifting.
Final Flash being Vegeta's best attack is criminal since it caught no bodies and has no accolades unlike Big Bang Attack. He didn't defeat anyone with it unless you count those jobbers in super which i don't since they're not even named.
>Power Ball Glad someone recalled it. With how GT made "SS4" work (just about amount of Blutz), you SHOULD be able to make a Super Power Ball to force the initial transformation unlock potentially even without a tail with even more power applied.
I would love to know a canon explanation for how Galick Gun, Final Flash, Final Shine, etc, are actually different from each other in a functional sense. They have different names and poses and colors obviously, but they are essentially all boiled down to just being a big ki beam. We know techniques are able to be scaled based on the strength of the user and the ki they pour into the attack, so it's not like Vegeta was required to make new techniques to replace weaker ones in that case. Logically, that must mean that he developed Final Flash because it somehow did something that the Galick Gun couldn't, which is very interesting. And Super confirmed that it isn't like Galick Gun was locked behind having evil ki or something, so keeping both GG and FF as two separate techniques that are equally usable to current Vegeta is very curious. Is one better for lethality and the other better for energy control? I know there is no real answer but it would be wonderful to have one.
True, I think that’s one of the many fundamental issues of the show. I would excuse this in dragon ball z since it was in the 90’s but since we had new gen animes that use similar concepts of Ki and life energy manipulation. You’d think dragon ball super would do the same, since dragon ball has directly influenced these animes! But no DBS took inspiration from DBZ abridged apparently.
Cell would have died if he took the Final Flash dead on as challenged but its clear Cell tried to dodge it and lost an arm. The Final Flash was key in Vegeta defeating Magetta also in the Universe 6 V 7 tournament, so you can actually say that the move does have a win under its belt.
Yo, I got a question. Somewhat related to Vageta, but mostly involving Trunks: Why was Trunks's tail removed, wouldn't he be able to control the Oozaru transformation? Vageta stated that he was capable of controlling the Oozaru simply because he was royalty. Trunks, being Vageta's son, also has royal saiyan blood; therefore, he too can control the Oozaru transformation, right? So he wouldn't be much of a danger (though he would definitely end up destroying some stuff by accident, but we won't talk about accidents) Has anyone else ever thought of this, or just me?
19:27 Vegeta's big bang in Buu's Fury is a chargable attack just like in LoG2, but instead of detonating on impact, it travels a lot slower and sustains it's form, dealing contious damage to any foe making contact with until it hits a wall or is hit with a regular energy blast. You were confusing it for the Final Flash
You’re right! I actually confused it for something completely different. I was thinking of vegito’s finger beam attack. For some reason that registered as vegeta’s big bang attack…..
@@arrownoir I mean that’s your opinion bro. Majority of the attacks in DBZ has zero bodies but that doesn’t make them trash. Hellzone grenade is a prime example.
@@ytwhattup6128 probably, probably not. If we’re being realistic the final flash in that moment would have vaporized cell destroying his nucleus like go hand kamehameha. Vegeta attack wouldn’t have been nearly as strong but strong enough to take out cell in his current form. Cell even knew if it hit him directly it would’ve been bad or either would’ve taken it head on or atleast not showed fear when Vegeta released the attack. But it’s just a theory
@JohnnyShotGunz Goku hit Cell point blank with a Kamehameha, and was notably way stronger than everyone else, which includes Vegeta when he used the Final Flash and it still didn't take Cell out. Cell more than likely didn't even dodge it.
It may not have killed anyone, it may not be his most powerful attack, but the final flash is just fucking epic
Preach!
FINAL FLAAAAAAAAASH🎹🎹
One might call it the first flash
You could argue that it would have killed cell if it hit his nucleus.
@@Danosauruscrecks Vegeta's best move yet
I love how a generic ki spam attack is considered “Vegeta’s Technique.” How appropriate for him
Vegetas technique™️
>how appropriate
How so? Do tell.
we all know Vegeta best attack is the "Vegeta Technique"
Its so good everyone uses it
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Wait! If Vegeta uses one more time the Vegeta's Technique™, The multiverse will be wiped out. Not even Zeno can't survive the Vegeta's Technique™
Fun fact:in the manga it's actually Goku who spams it a lot and it works.
Bejita no waza da!
Will say one thing I never liked about Vegeta's techniques... as soon as he learns a new one, he basically forgets all previous ones. It's like a pokemon. "Vegeta is trying to learn Final Flash! Vegeta can only know one move, please select a move to forget!"
and for some reason he never decides to forget Vegeta's Technique TM
If Gogeta combine Vegeta Atomic Blast with Goku Spirit Bomb you got yourself a OHKO called Atomic Bomb.
10:04 and 11:24 + 19:01 so badass
@@KGAGamer that's not entirely true, he does the galic gun and the bing bang in super just not nearly as much as final flash and gamma ray burst
@Danosauruscrecks yeah I'm aware, just saying he basically forgets them and barely uses them.
Side note: Vegeta can actually use ki like a sword. In the manga, he used a spirit sword like technique to preventing himself from falling off the tournament of power arena.
So we know where Vegito gets it from.
That’s a great shout! I mean it could also be the opposite. That fusing into vegito made him learn that technique. Alternatively, it could just be that he learned it after seeing Goku black and Zamasu. Though I prefer the idea that vegito got it from his royal blood counter part.
Vegetto stole it from a movie, but in-verse it would make sense Vegeta made it (along with Banshee Blast) since the one who makes technique is always Vegeta in canon. Super having him use it was good, but not the way he employed it (nor waiting until after Zamasu had). The flex was weird to me. He had already demonstrated a ki augmented strike (with aura) against Goku in the first fight. Vegetto's fully body aura barrier likely would be Vegeta, too.
@@BigVEE Oh yeah, I forgot he did the ki infused punch in the Saiyan Saga. That would make sense for it being a precursor to what he'll eventually form and perfect when fused into Vegito.
@@MarshallXeno Nappa also had such a thing. Even a full body (electric) aura barrier (not unlike Vegetto), just that he didn't use it for anything notable. Nappa used a variant of Dirty Fireworks (odd move that destroys without travel time **the canon depiction of Death Wave should just be that as with the move that killed Krillin is close to theft from Vegeta**) on the environment, too. There was overlap in the moves they knew/used. Technically as an Oozaru Vegeta had a mouth blast, as well (mind you, even Gohan did **just not Goku**).
Any fighter with Ki control can do that if they choose.
DB moves aren’t unique to the users. They’re just special applications of the energy. For example Frieza’s Death Beam is a thin beam that pierces. Krillin can make a sharp disk. That’s why Vegeta could copy the Destructo Disk just from seeing it.
2:09 "i don't know who vegeta is yet, but that's his technique!!!"
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Don’t forget the classic “The Sayians are a true warrior race! Don’t underestimate us!” rush attack
✊🏻⚡✊🏻 The sayians are a true warrior race ✊🏻 don't understimate us ✊🏻⚡✊🏻
We saiyans have no limits
2:19 Just realized Vegeta pretty much did his own version of Hellzone Grenade
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and galaxy breaker is pretty much an early version of Trunks heat dome attack
Royal landmine
@@giodoubledoverConsidering the lineage, it would make a lot of sense.
@@giodoubledover More or less, yes. He really should have used his ability to focus even a full-body blast not for an AoE, but a directed beam (at least) with regards to Final Atonement. His conclusion that Buu just needed to be blown to bits is a silly logical leap when even Cell would recover from this. Testing the water with a ki disc would have been enough (Atomic Blast as a technique looks neat, but I'm not seeing the point of a piercing move that isn't punching above its weight to that extent) to realize what he learned.
I think what makes the Final Flash the best was, at the moment, Cell was trying to prove a point. "Do your worst, and I won't even feel it." Then Vegeta busts this out and, while he doesn't kill him, disintegrates half his body instantly humiliating him. Truly a recognizable moment of defiance and something I wish Vegeta could have done to Frieza before he died.
Vegeta's humiliation ritual against Frieza was owed to fan letters. Kondo was already making him keep Vegeta around, but he couldn't defy this editor. Fans saying to not kill Vegeta was too much. He knew he could just bring him back, so he acted out. Not only killing him (briefly), but returning him a different character. Also, the death would be super embarrassing (Goku tier jobbing). Even cried for the only time in canon (noted as first in his life, too).
Cell actually dodged it at the last moment.
Vegeta's best technique is his thumb pose, no contest.
It has a 100% success rate too. Every time he uses it he loses 😂
He gotta trick his enemies to do it to win
The first Jobber Pose was Giran (on Goku). The CURSE was Goku CHEATING and being forgiven (then miracles a tail regen to save him from taking the L anyway). Tien was the first to beat the curse (against Roshi). In Z, Goku is the first to use it. Jobs to Raditz (one-shot). Second user? Goku again (against VEGETA and Nappa). Said he would win against both without KK. Needed KK and a cheapshot for the latter. Jobs completely to the former. Vegeta finally uses it? Beats Semi. Loses rematch. Later Gohan uses it with Dabura. Vegeta helped make it a win (by forfeit) through his stunt intentionally trying to get charmed for an amp. Next time Gohan used it? Vegeta wasn't there (and Gokek's firstborn got a horrible beating). But that's canon talk. You kids love citing filler and the like.
@@darkemperormaniac8869 nah he just gotta point at them
2:09
"I don't know who Vegeta is yet, but that's his technique!"
I would LOVE to see a ranking of Piccolo's attacks :)
Piccolo has a cool variety
Special beam cannon the strongest
His super explosive wave is op as HIFL in Kakarot
Piccolo has a lot of jank. HZG is a guided ki barrage (combining homing with ki spam). Light Grenade didn't punch above its weight much at all (doing nada to the stronger target unlike FF). SBC proved itself with Raditz, but people WRONGLY downplay it as impractical charge (then point to non-canon). The correct version is 2H and instant (used on Nappa **who evaded**). Masenko is wrongly credited to him (he never used this in reality). Also, it is weaker than KMHM (which is not an especially good move).
Limb stretch should give utility, but that's a natural ability. As with size changing though you can pretend it is spirit control (this was also awful as it didn't make him stronger). Can't pretend regen is a technique. Clothes beam is an ability (and one he doesn't use well). An overreach to include. Explosive Wave is very whatever (and led to him jobbing for attacking all over the place instead of just his target). Mouth blast is serviceable for utility. Same for eye beams. Antenna shock needed more work.
Filler has him with multi-body (not used well). Probably should have copied multi-arm while at it. Flight is a technique, but nobody even thinks to include it, so whatever. We're more looking to deal DMG, right? He knows ECW enough to reverse, but we never see him actually do the thing per se. It has clear utility value. Destructive Wave punches over its weight class enough that it threatened to kill the slightly stronger Goku in the original showing (Tien had to interfere). Still, at least he was making his own stuff. Not bad for how young he is (even if he does have a head start with magical abilities and his father's memories **potentially some from Kami so older than he is physically in that regard**). His only master was King Kai (who taught him nothing).
1. Special Beam Cannon
And then everything else in whatever order cause they don't matter, Special Beam Cannon is too cool.
Oh how cute, he named it------OH SHIT
The only proper way to consume the final flash experience
3:02 “MY BABY BOYYYYYYYYY”
"VEGETA NO!"
VEGETA, YESSSSSSSSSS!!!!
@@minjuice2269Vegeta no
"Keyblasts are useless" being used for the tenkaichi games is such a wrong statement 🤣🤣
Definitely, but i think he just was referring to vegeta in bt1 bc ten ki blasts only did 900 damage lol
Thats Vegeta's technique!!
Go ahead and put that Final Flash at the bottom, 0% win rate. You know when he hits that pose he’s cooked.
Didn’t he beat Magetta with it?
@@ThePrinceVon nah, he used it as a distraction to punch him out of the ring
Exactly. It’s never beaten anybody.
Its still pretty cool, its like a stronger kamehameha but obv more taxing. The only beams that would be stronger than it if used by the same people are the super kamehameha(arguably equal), the fusion beams, and a fully charged special beam cannon.
@@rednaxela5960galick gun > Kamehameha
Final flash > super Kamehameha
Vegeta casually mentioning he could separate Nail and Kami from Piccolo is crazy
Guess Slugger didn't want to be purely himself anymore. Was happy with the amps as a multi-fusion (merged being). Doubled down with a wish for potential unlock (that got a bonus for free). How unfortunate to see someone who works so hard go this far into welfare territory (Gohan skipping the hardwork in his own case).
I feel like tgis would be even cooler if he could use this on potara fusions(back when they were permanent period.)
@@suscrow661 They are again (with Daima). Just depends on continuity. Now one just needs FSF to exist at the same time (don't hold your breath).
The Kienzan was probably something he saw another Alien do, but Nappa never saw it before, and was unknowingly going to die. In fact its why Vegeta realy decided to kill him. He just Finished up Krillin's kill that he stole from him earlier.
Nah krillin created it and vegeta just copy it, frieza too in his arc
@@gladionlunix5547 Nah, Vegeta already knew how to do it, but just didn't show it off to Nappa (instead warning him when he recognized it). Vegeta doesn't like to do what others do at all. Frieza isn't even one for learning (and Goku is a person assigning credit or taking it without any idea of what he's talking about). His movelist is super sad, by the way. Very little of substance in reality (Nova Strike is about the only thing I'd praise from him).
Krillin did okay for himself figuring a ki disc out, but otherwise his best is Scatter Shot (splitting a whole attack with cast offs able to kill a bunch of foes relative to you isn't a bad showing at all **not so simple as a glorified ki blast barrage**). Actual theft with Solar Flare (to the point he wrongly gets to keep it as his own **wild stuff with games sometimes having him use it, but not Tien**). Copied KMHM (nobody is taught this). But enough about Chestnut.
Vegetable my goatt
Vegetable 🗣️ 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Because he is the prince of all vegetables 🔥
When it comes to the second time of him using final explosion/atonement, I feel Vegeta actually would’ve died if he both wasn’t strong enough and didn’t have good enough ki control and that would’ve been probably the saddest thing to happen in the tournament next to Both Roshi and Android 17’s sacrifices. The fact that we had 3 close calls like that is nutty itself.
He was also a lot less willing to die compared to back with Buu since even if it did work theres still Jiren to deal with; probably also helped that he would know to keep it under control since his allies could be caught in the blast and its not like he was trying to kill Toppo and get disqualified.
@@thepixelman4776 good point yeah, but I know for a fact if he did it against Jiren, he knew he could go all in and at the most hurt jiren enough to mean something without killing him, although it would cost him his life.
It is still folly not to direct the attack as he demonstrated he could with Galaxy Breaker. Very wasteful attacking a bunch of places where the enemy is not.
The final explosion in DBS was cool/ good vs crazy people
You know the final flash is cool when it is almost never effective yet every time it’s used it still manages to make some of the coolest moments in the entire series
Big bang over galick gun is crazy
Big Bang is lamer looking but it at least defeated an enemy
Factoring Rule of Cool and Story Circumstance is a mistake. Only utility and potency should factor. The value of the thing (not how it gets worked). Not ideal to blind subjective with objective (favoring the former).
the ki bullet really good because he uses it to calm down in a safe distance so its also a mental thing
dont ever use these 60fps clips ever again they look horrible
14: Vegeta's Technique
Water Vegeta 🔛🔝
19:28 Like all Ki attacks including the Kamehameha, it is a variable. The Big Bang attack can be shot as an orb or as a beam depending on the use case. The Kamehameha has been shot as an orb before. So have many attacks.
KMHM from Goku was dual-wielded as guided orbs (Torpedo), yes. That aside from guiding the beam, using his feet to propel or a damned barrage. However, these are CANON. The BBA instances noted were not. Only one exists (and was totally unproven as it went after a wounded, off-guard and much weaker foe).
lets not forget the legendary arm hold thats an iconic vegeta technique
How is Vegeta the only saiyan that doesn't get stronger when angry 😭
19:33 the beam form of the big bang attack is the big bang cannon
I sure hope you continue on creating Dragon Ball characters attacks from worst to best. We truly need a ranking like this so we know each and every character's attacks too.
It’s glad to see you post again you was really my childhood frfr
AWESOME VID BRO!!!!💯💯💯
I’m not the most creative person but I can tell Vegeta made these moves up himself😂
The final flash scene is one of the best moments in DBZ. The drama, the intensity of the animation, his muscles, the electricity, not actually seeing the Ki, Trunks and Krillin shaking in fear, the weather changing, the earth shaking, and that falconer soundtrack.
YES! Exactly it’s not the attack itself, it’s the execution. Too bad some people don’t understand what makes it so great
@@moodzi1322 I'm just glad you didn't meme on it saying the move has an impractical charge time (only to do Galaxy Buster dirty for some reason). Canon has him ready right away, but provoking in the hopes to NOT get evaded.
Out of all the attacks, Final Shine Attack is my favorite. Something about it is just *chef’s kiss*
Probably just the green. GBF should have been like that (Hulk would approve).
The way you describe these attacks takes me back, way back. Back to the early 00's and middle school to times where i would try to get into role playing some custom dragon ball z on some Internet forums...
Man we all did cringe things as young kids huh?
I respect you for the Final Atonement placement.
If used correctly, Vegeta’s Energy Blast Volley can actually be a pretty badass finisher. Anybody remember the absolute onslaught he put Ginyu through?
Love how Vegeta has a great low 10% battery warning where he holds that one arm. So other than Vegeta's technique 'spam blast uselessly' I agree with the top 4 picks even in that order.
I heard that the "Final Flash" was the strongest attack in the cell saga. Cell just... dodged it.
Watch his various usages of final flash and you'll notice a fundamental aspect to it. I would go so far to say it is part of the attack:
He uses it when he has lost the fight. Using his pride as a facade, he challenges the opponent "your stronger than me? You're mocking my pride as being bigger than my strength? If I'm so much weaker than you, stand there and wait for me to charge up all my strength."
I loved the thumbnail
Also the fact that final flash first showed up after vegeta and trunks trained in the time chamber and that trunks knows it as well just adds to its coolness.
What really makes Final Shine stand out to me was that most blasts are blue, purple or yellow. The beam being green doesn’t really make that much of a difference in all honesty but for some reason it just looks cool as hell to me
Vegeta’s strongest move is called “punch them really REALLY hard”
*Goku's
NOTE: This in Koyama verse, of course (inspired by a canon event exaggerated manifold over repeatedly until the meme of Dragon Fist was born into an absolute absurdity).
Could be that Toriyama forgot but when Goku used the kamehameha it boosted his power temporarily by 45% just before firing the beam. Initially Goku had a power level of 416 but when using the Kamehameha it jumped to 924. If we were to factor this Vegeta’s Galick Gun is actually really strong.
It's Vegeta's technique! Love ya, MoodZi!
Dirty Fireworks is his most badass💥 Followed closely by Final Shine🔥
Amazing vid!!!!!
another banger video man!
Guess who’s back, back again!
I've always considered the beam version of Big Bang Attack to be a separate technique. Vegeta's fight with Android 19 is generally considered to be the first use of Big Bang Attack but he used the beam version all throughout the Namek Arc (In fact it was probably is most used attack). So in my mind Big Bang Attack is the energy ball version while the beam version is Big Bang Cannon (no a canon name, just what I call it in my head.)
The Final explosion is one of the greatest moments in all of anime, if not literature.
Yugioh music in a Dragon Ball video is oh so satisfying.
Rapid energy blast, never does anything...until FighterZ happened and it became the best assist in the game
FSF, combined with UE, would be one kind of technique you just don't wanna face in battle
Would love a Piccolo list like this. Feels like the only two techniques of his that get any spotlight are special beam and hellzone grenade.
Also, at 22:58 did you mean fundamental?
Piccolo would be so good for this kind of video. He has so much variety.
Yeah, I mistakingly said detrimental lol
Awesome video
My 6 favourites are
6 Final Shine
5 Gamma Burst Flash
4 Final Explosion
3 Big Bang Attack
2 Galick Gun
1 Final Flash
3 Final explosion 4 Big bang attack
@@SwastikBiswas-b3r ok
dirty fireworks might be my fave attack in all of dragonball
Gamma Burst literally was removed from the manga cause' it was broken af. Still the most powerful move by far and on my top 3
Small correction: it's not a beam in Buu's Fury. The move works differently though. In LoG2, it shoots forward and hits once, but in Buu's fury, it is a ball that does multiple hits as long as it is in contact with the foe.
Big bang attack, I mean.
You’re right I missremembered
7:40 what song is that
The gamma burst is a cool concept, it should see more usage. It’s like the final flash, but exchanging the long charge time for a ton of recoil.
Weird headcanon. There is no known drawback for GBF (he used it low on energy, beat up, etc. on two stronger foes to blow them to bits without really harming himself). FF has no charge time in canon. He near instantly had it ready for Cell, but needed to provoke him to avoid it being dodged. The anime deceive you with dramatics (the 10s long Spirit Bomb was made 3m as one fun example).
@@BigVEE 🤓
@@Connor_Kirkpatrick >emoji
Gross.
>no argument
I accept your concession. You may now kneel (like Gokek before Bejita-sama in all fights).
@@BigVEE I don’t disagree, I’m expressing disapproval with the way you present your argument. You come across as snarky
@@Connor_Kirkpatrick >I'm unable to finish my thought
Why?
>snarky
No need for flattery.
>argument
Just stating facts, really.
#1 As Cell once said "Ohhh!! How cute... He name th- OH SHIT!!!"
So I would like to clarify on Super saiyan 4 vegetas attack with both. So it is said that it was suppose to be the final flash not the final shine attack. Because on the game Dokkan battle LR SSj 4 goku and vegeta and the normal Str lr ssj 4 vegeta have the same animations as the anime and their attacks are actually named final flash.
Let's be honest, we all know what the top three are going to be.
So we all finna ignore vegeta doing a hellizone/hell-zone grenade at 2:20
Vegeta is a master, not a student. And that puts him above and beyond almost everyone else in the show.
He is literally whis' student and tien runs a dojo himself
Whis
Yardrats
Bills
>Super
Neat, but not canon. Vegeta has no masters. If including that material, it is like Kenny says (with Pybara as the only one doing real teaching of technique **as KK was to Goku where other masters did nothing**).
@@BigVEE Do you live under a rock? It had been long confirmed that the anime and comic of super are official continuities of Z’s anime and comic, respectively.
@@Ki-gz8ve >confuses official for canon
Shall I help you learn the term, old boy?
>comic
**glove slap**
Funnily enough even Goku couldn't do anything with the generic ki spam. The only character who was really effective with it was Gogeta against Broly. That definitely did a lot of damage.
Despite the move's extremely low success rate, the issues with the ki blast barrage come more from who Vegeta uses it against than the technique itself. This is best demonstrated, ironically, when *Goku* uses the technique during the Cell games. Both in the anime and manga, Cell does seem to suffer real damage from the barrage--he has to spend energy on a barrier to escape, and even commends Goku on "forcing" him to do so.
While the ki blast barrage technique is less powerful and less energy-efficient than many of his other techniques, it does have its own unique merits. Firstly, it doesn't really need time to charge; you just throw out some ki blasts. Then, if it hits, you can choose to keep blasting or to save ki and press your advantage by rushing in. If it misses, adjusting your aim is easier than trying to bend a beam or blast back around, and missing a few ki blasts spends less ki than missing a beam.
Personally, I would at least put it above Explosive Wave, especially since it is arguably Vegeta's 5th-most iconic move, under the Final Explosion, Big Bang Attack, Final Flash, and Galick Gun.
Comparatively, the Galaxy Breaker only looks powerful because of who it was used against; it was basically just a flex. A simple one-handed charged ki wave would have hit just as hard with less energy spent--Vegeta just had so much energy to flaunt (compared to everyone else on the battlefield) that he saw no need to be conservative.
Similarly, Dirty Fireworks is also most likely a technique that only works against opponents weaker than him, though in this case, I believe it probably is fairly energy efficient.
At the same time though, I suppose this video is judging attacks by more than just their effectiveness, so I suppose its extremely low success rate for Vegeta does provide some justification for it being at the lowest spot, even if it is stronger than some of his other techniques.
Ki barrage defense is on point. It is a ranged melee barrage (using ki) in essence. Galaxy Breaker didn't earn credit via whom it killed, but deserves a nod for the concept of full body blast. He SHOULD have done this to focus Final Atonement upon Buu (if not a Dirty Fireworks Shine Shot to Combust him). DF possibly only letting him invade the body of weaker foes could be an anti-hax measure, yes. Still not a thing you can defend against doing huge DMG for little energy with zero travel time even were it so he can't just start it inside a foe relative to him (dropped guard cases beware **read: Goku**). The effectiveness the video favors is not potential of the move, but mere results (plot can put something over with merit or hold it back undeservedly). Not good.
the gamma burst is now in sparking zero on one of vegeta presets btw seen it in gameplay footage he even calls it gamma burst too
>GBF in a proper game and not some joke now
Oh? **checks** Given little fanfare, orange/red (bad choice) and wrong posture. It is technically in the game. A start, I suppose. Thanks for the heads up. I suppose the ban on Toyo is lifting.
@@BigVEEChat what is this post talking about?
@@carljohanson3895 It is talking about how "grandpa" (GROOMhan) made a weak story to cover for what really happened to our immuno-compromised 'hero.
Was watching the whole video going, I hope the final flash is number 1. I was proud
Destructo disk was made by vegeta seeing krillin doing it
Krillin made it
Krillin literally threw a destructo disk at nappa before he even fought vegeta so I feel like vegeta saw krillin then copied him
@@tonydale1995 fr
Didn’t Frieza copy him kinda too? With his purple version that ended up slicing himself in half? 😂
@@trufreedom that’s a good point krillin used that shit on frieza’s second form.
Final Flash being Vegeta's best attack is criminal since it caught no bodies and has no accolades unlike Big Bang Attack. He didn't defeat anyone with it unless you count those jobbers in super which i don't since they're not even named.
Magetta could have cleaned up perfect cell by himself with ease. Cope.
Meanwhile final flash forcing jiren to block
@@staarfinger7322come on we know it did 0 damage
@@gladionlunix5547 cmon we know that jiren was scared shitless along with the rest of the audience
@@gladionlunix5547 It had Jiren on the floor.
personally big bang attack is my favourite, just so badass
We really need Majin Vegeta in DBFZ! Man's gonna be a menace at mid or anchor for sure.
Shout outs to burst open and mix for being a really cool move that makes sense for a strong saiyan to have despite it not being relevant anymore
>Power Ball
Glad someone recalled it. With how GT made "SS4" work (just about amount of Blutz), you SHOULD be able to make a Super Power Ball to force the initial transformation unlock potentially even without a tail with even more power applied.
I would love to know a canon explanation for how Galick Gun, Final Flash, Final Shine, etc, are actually different from each other in a functional sense. They have different names and poses and colors obviously, but they are essentially all boiled down to just being a big ki beam. We know techniques are able to be scaled based on the strength of the user and the ki they pour into the attack, so it's not like Vegeta was required to make new techniques to replace weaker ones in that case. Logically, that must mean that he developed Final Flash because it somehow did something that the Galick Gun couldn't, which is very interesting. And Super confirmed that it isn't like Galick Gun was locked behind having evil ki or something, so keeping both GG and FF as two separate techniques that are equally usable to current Vegeta is very curious. Is one better for lethality and the other better for energy control? I know there is no real answer but it would be wonderful to have one.
True, I think that’s one of the many fundamental issues of the show. I would excuse this in dragon ball z since it was in the 90’s but since we had new gen animes that use similar concepts of Ki and life energy manipulation. You’d think dragon ball super would do the same, since dragon ball has directly influenced these animes! But no DBS took inspiration from DBZ abridged apparently.
Galick Gun is incredibly good as an attack. It competed with a kamehameha from a goku who was much stronger at the time.
3:01 MY BABY BOY!!!
Cell would have died if he took the Final Flash dead on as challenged but its clear Cell tried to dodge it and lost an arm. The Final Flash was key in Vegeta defeating Magetta also in the Universe 6 V 7 tournament, so you can actually say that the move does have a win under its belt.
I believe he learned the destructo disc from frieza because ultimately a destructo disc like attack is used to slice him in half during namek
Yo, I got a question. Somewhat related to Vageta, but mostly involving Trunks: Why was Trunks's tail removed, wouldn't he be able to control the Oozaru transformation? Vageta stated that he was capable of controlling the Oozaru simply because he was royalty. Trunks, being Vageta's son, also has royal saiyan blood; therefore, he too can control the Oozaru transformation, right? So he wouldn't be much of a danger (though he would definitely end up destroying some stuff by accident, but we won't talk about accidents)
Has anyone else ever thought of this, or just me?
Explosive wave is technically piccolo’s technique but vegeta just took it and made it better
19:27 Vegeta's big bang in Buu's Fury is a chargable attack just like in LoG2, but instead of detonating on impact, it travels a lot slower and sustains it's form, dealing contious damage to any foe making contact with until it hits a wall or is hit with a regular energy blast.
You were confusing it for the Final Flash
You’re right! I actually confused it for something completely different. I was thinking of vegito’s finger beam attack. For some reason that registered as vegeta’s big bang attack…..
@@moodzi1322 glad I could help ;)
Putting Dirty Fireworks so low is a crime
If the final flash hit cell head on the cell saga would’ve ended right there
But it didn’t. Final Flash sucks, it has an exact number of zero bodies.
He definitely would have still regenerated
@@arrownoir I mean that’s your opinion bro. Majority of the attacks in DBZ has zero bodies but that doesn’t make them trash. Hellzone grenade is a prime example.
@@ytwhattup6128 probably, probably not. If we’re being realistic the final flash in that moment would have vaporized cell destroying his nucleus like go hand kamehameha. Vegeta attack wouldn’t have been nearly as strong but strong enough to take out cell in his current form. Cell even knew if it hit him directly it would’ve been bad or either would’ve taken it head on or atleast not showed fear when Vegeta released the attack. But it’s just a theory
@JohnnyShotGunz Goku hit Cell point blank with a Kamehameha, and was notably way stronger than everyone else, which includes Vegeta when he used the Final Flash and it still didn't take Cell out. Cell more than likely didn't even dodge it.
9:00 in my head canon this move is called "atomic bullet"
The US ss vegeta theme goes super hard
Can you do one for goku? i really like god bind. The ki mines were cool too. I like all of goku's techniques.
For sure! Just Make sure to like and subscribe and I will upload a video on that in future
@@moodzi1322 thanks. Looking forward to it
13:40 "And yes, even for you... Best Buddy. NOPE STILL HATE IT!"
I LOVE MOODZI CONTENT
That's fucking Vegeta's Technique
Vegeta Technique TM is the best technique
The interpolated clips look so bad😭
Ive been watching you since I was 10.
prediction
1. Final Flash
2. Big bang
3. Final Explosion
(Assuming how cool it is not exactly strength)