Transition Spire Bike Check & Review | Better Than My Enduro?
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- Here's what I think about the new Transition Spire mtb. I've had it for about a month now, and i'm stoked to put more months on it! What a killer enduro mountain bike!
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The spire is one hell of a bike, had to make the difficult decision between the Spire, Norco Range and of course the Enduro, less than a week later I am extremely happy with the purchase. Like they said in the video it is surprising just how agile the bike is, there is tons of good trail feedback too, its honestly a bike that can plow and also be a well mannered trail bike when needed.
This is exactly it. It’s insane!
Solid review, especially the note on your seat. I’ve been looking for a good chammy-less seat for a while
It's a great seat! I have used the same one for over a year now and love it!
You can do the stroke adjustment externally with 2.5 allen key just need to remove the 2 bolts at the end of the shock body. Then remove the 2 2.5mm spacer that cut in half.
That's what I was about to write! lol So simple to do on a Fox coil shock... no need to open it like on an air shock!
You may alter the glossiness of the bike paint by wrapping it with protective vinyl wrap - in gloss option. Many MTB companies for that do have a matte and gloss versions to pick from.
Yall my favorite youtubers right now. More than Barrelli and Remy and Matt Jones or Brendan Fairclough. You guys just get the stoke on so good and to live in the midwest like me is cool too.
Hell yea bud!!
Hey, love the bike stand! 😎
Excited for this video. I just built up an alloy Spire from a frame and the X2 shock it came with is great. One of the Pinkbike reviewers didn't like the superdeluxe either, so I guess the frame just works better with Fox. Also, a 205x60 and 205x65 are the same shock, the shorter one just has a spacer to limit travel. You should be able to have the spacer removed by a competent bike shop for no more than the price of a full shock service. I'm looking at the Cascade link since I had one on my 18 Patrol and loved it, but I can't justify it since the Spire feels so good stock (and actully has the same progression stock as my Patrol did with the Cascade link).
I just blew up my dhx2 so I’m back on the air shock and I will be getting a coil back on asap! Makes the bike feel amazing
@@Blake_Cherubini I will have to try it with my Marzocci Bomber coil. I've just been so pleased with how poppy and playful it feels and I don't want to dampen that too much. I tried it on the Patrol but went back to air for that reason. Plus my alloy build with a factory 38 is about 37.5 lbs and adding the coil starts moving it closer to e-bike weight....
ordered a alloy spire in the gx kit, so excited!
due to covid it comes with trp dhr evo brakes and float x performance elite shock, might swap the rear out to a xfusion h3c rcp
That sounds like it will be a sick build bro! Hope you like it
Not sure about fox but rockshox uses a spacer to change the stroke between 60 and 65. It can be removed by a shop or you can cut it off yourself.
The “this bike fucks” sticker is the soul reason I like that bike
😂
@@Blake_Cherubini I want one, I looked around and couldn't find any...
If you changed the shock stroke to 60mm then your Spire is now 160mm travel, it says so in Transition's specs ;)
I'm also loving my ALLOY Spire cause I ALSO broke a Stumpy Evo..(and doesn't hold water like the carbon model) I do notice the longer 446mm chain stay length for stability at high speeds but also corners like a moto on rails! This bike rules
Great review! I particularly liked the fact that apart from how the bike rides you also addressed servicing - being someone who does it myself, I find it very important! How would you rate the amount of dirt getting into the suspension pivot bearings - especially the ones near the rear tyre (the rear of the rocker)? On my 2018 Scout they get a lot of dust and require frequent servicing. Also: have you been able to extract all the bearings from the frame?
Thanks! I wish I could answer your questions but I haven’t had the bike quite long enough to notice any issues with the bearings or the need to replace them yet
@@Blake_Cherubini on my bike - depending on conditions - I sometimes have to service the pivots even a couple of weeks after the prior service. I usually just clean the dirt build up from the bearings and check how they rotate. If I can feel resistance or grit inside, I pull them out, remove the seals using a tiny screwdriver, wash in gasoline, apply fresh grease, put the seals back on and assemble the susp... It may sound like a lot of work, but actually it's not, and helps to avoid the need for bearing replacement. Also - it is usually the rear rocker bearings and the ones on the lower main pivot (sometimes also the middle rocker pivot) which need such thorough cleaning the most often . Also - I have learnt it the hard way - no mater now gentle I was washing my bike using water (no pressure washers - just a garden hose, tiny stream etc) the ball bearings were ceasing and even rusting (not to mention the bearings remained dirty), they would start rotating on the pivot - creating grooves in it and forcing me to replace the whole assembly - so now I only dry clean my bike or use wet rag to remove the mud stuck to it.
Quick vid idea that no ones done... Spire mullet, vs Patrol mullet. Transition says you can do it with the Spire flip chip on high. PS thanks for the great content!
not sure if you already know but you should be able to remove spacers in that shock and extend the stroke by 5mm in 2.5mm increments.
You can change the stroke of the rear shock with an allen key on the bottom of the damper body. Super easy
So which one will be better at plowing through rough stuff, like rockgardens and roots? Or which one will deal better with braking bumps in the bikepark?
Interesting to hear paint peeves. I’ve got the alloy version with gloss orange paint and it scuffs and wears easier than any other bike I’ve owned. I thought the carbon version with matte paint would be better. Ride Wrap to the rescue.
I live in south Florida, and is pretty flat down here so we pedal a lot. I also ride park. I currently have a Jeffsy, which is great for the trails but not so great at the park. How well does the spire pedals? I can only afford one bike so I rather sacrifice pedal efficiency over comfort and confidence at the park. Though I need a bike that can pedal decently. Is the spire it? TIA. 🤟🏼
Sick bike have you guys seen the 2021 Vitus Sommet CRX? It is between the Patrol and the spire and similar suspension platform. It is one you guys may want to consider for a future bike. The value is insane too.
An even better value is the E-sommet, $6200 for an ebike with hayes dominion a4's, gx transmission wireless shifting, and 2023 rockshox ultimate level suspension
@@spencerimre i just got that bike and I have a custom built Sommet CRX Analog bike. Yes you are correct
Looks like a cool bike 🤘🔥
Thanks bro!
Is Blake still editing these? He's killing it if so. Great review and great edits!
Yes he’s still doing the editing!
I'm curios about a mullet Spire, just because I like the orange more!
Awesome review!! Seems to really be more agile than the numbers suggest. How easy is it to do manuals and bunnyhops?
Bunny hops like a big bike haha plus I’m not great at them but it manuals like a dream!
Thanks man! Appreciated!!
550# spring seems heavy, how much you weigh? Good to know about the shock working despite the 5mm shorter stroke length. I'm switching from a kona process 153 to a process x and it's the exact same situation 60mm vs 62.5 stroke but both are 205mm eye to eye.
I weight 185-190 full geared up. It might be a little on the heavy side but I like how it feels like that
Seeing your tires: How do you find the Wild AM2 vs. Dh22 / 34 in terms of rolling resistance?
The wild AM2 is way faster. They are a more trail oriented tire so they roll faster and they are lighter.
Nice vid. The stroke spacers on your DHX2 are stupid easy to remove if you feel like it. 5 min job
Do you guys think this is a good all around bike for multiple different types of riding? I know it’s impossible to find a bike that does everything right, but I’d like a bike that I can use in the bike park and also go pedal with my friends. The one thing I’m worried about is pedal strikes due to the low bottom bracket. I ride a lot of technical rocky trails. The videos are awesome, and def helpful 🤙🏻
I think that it’s a good all around bike. Any bike that’s in that 150-170mm range will be able to handle just about anything very well. This BB is low, but pedal strikes happen on any bike. It’s more about pedal awareness imo
If u put a larger negative chamber on the super deluxe it fixes the issue. U can buy directly from rockshox
That thing or the patrol is honestly my dream bike :)
Same bro!
@TheCherubinis Where can I find that sticker!? I want one 🤘🏻
I have this bike on order, ships out soon. I am 5’10” and kind of torn on what size to get, according to transition I fit a medium or a large. What is you height and what bike frame size are you on?
I’m 6ft on a large
Yo buds, how does this thing jump being on a full 29er compared to a mullet. Just ordered my spire and I’m a big jump kind of guy. So I’m hoping it’s nothing different than my other mullet bike. Thanks!
I don't think you will even be able to tell a difference!
Great video and bike, the headset setup on the specialized seems sketchy.
Yea it could use an update
So do all Transitions come with that sticker ? If so, I’m sold !!
Haha the sticker seals the deal!
Have you had any problems with denting or cracking the carbon frame?
No issues!
You should do reviews of bike parks
Would love to get out to more bike parks!
How do the Force AM2s compare to the DH22s?
I feel like it's almost the same level of grip and tread durability but without being super heavy. It's a lighter casing so flats could be an issue if your used to the DH22
How would you compare the am2 tires to enduros?
I actually like them more. They feel similar to the dh22s without the weight of the dh casing
You can most likely very easily take off a couple travel spacers from the DHX2 and get 170mm travel
What setting is the flip chip in?
High 🤙🏻
I have a spire. The stock handlebars suck indeed. Sick stem and seat also. So does the paint job.
But she rides real nice. Feels way too long but rides just fine anyway. Definitely not a wheelie bike. Lol
Good for hauling ass downhill and inspiring confidence. I take it down fear and Loaming as well as thrillium in the PNW. Good times.
Suggestion: Bike checks should have the rider height, weight, and frame size of bike right at beginning. You specified the coil #s but without weight it is useless to us.
nice bike
It looks a lot better then the Enduro, thats for sure.
agreed!
IFreakin❤ThisBike.
How does this compare to the sb150?
Never been on a yeti so o can’t help you bud 🥲
Looking at enduro frames. This one is top 3.
What are your other choices
S works enduro, gnarvana. Maybe evil wreck.
The playfulness of a mullet bike is a real thing. But. Its only really achieved with a 27.5 frame (short chainstays) and then adding a 29er front. Just dropping a small wheel into a long frame will only change the angles a bit. Might actually make the bike worse sluggish
The reason why I would like a coil shock on my superfoxy is because it’s supposed to required basically no maintenance so you don’t need to service it often, is that true? And in you opinion what difference do you notice between the coil and a good air shock, too linear or maybe a lot less poppy or that kind of stuff, sweet bike congrats!
Generally yes that's true. A coil shock tracks the ground better than any air shock I have ever ridden. If that's what you're looking for then a coil is the way to go!
Are transitions sold in the U S?
Oh yeah. Transition HQ is in Bellingham, WA.
@@Blake_Cherubini sweet thx
What size did you go with?
Large
“This bike FUCKS!” 🤣🤣🤣
My wife will not let me into Kinetic Cycles in Coquitlam, BC unescorted because of this bike.... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
You should sneak in and get it!
Code RSCs are my favorite brakes Ive tried so far. Tried Magura and TRP dh brakes on others bikes and they just aren't as smooth and consistent (never tried saints).
I do agree though... all guides get smoked riding DH and Code Rs just out of the box don't work. Shame people associate code RSCs with other sram brakes, they're great.
I have been pleasantly surprised with the rsc’s. They might be my favorite yet…
I have a set of Code R’s on my GT Force and they’ve been outstanding so far. I found that once they get warm they tend to bite a bit more but aside from that they are very consistent. It might also help that the factory wheelset isn’t super heavy. I’ve ridden them for about a month with no issues at all.
I had major issues with Code R's, being squishy. Tried bleeding, changing pads, and other things and couldn't get them like I wanted. Turned out, my pistons needed to be adjusted. Remove the brake pads, then take something that will fit in between the pistons and not damage them. Put a little inward tension on the pistons, so they don't come all the way out of the caliper, but let them move out in small increments. Takes a few tries but this will dial in your Code's. This method works the same as the pad adjustment on the RSC's. Took my Codes from brakes that I was getting ready to replace, to brakes with the feel and power that I wanted. Just throwing it out there, incase anyone else is having this issue. Crazy thing is, buddy of mine owns a nice bike shop. I went through, all the new full suspension bikes with Code R's and everyone of the new bikes on the floor needed that piston adjustment. No wonder they came out with RSC's. Hope this helps someone.
@@patrickmccormack1427 looks like I just got lucky then. Honestly if my codes screw up I’m probably swapping to Hope or Hayes anyway
@@anthonywalters7434 Sram metallic pads are very very hard to bed in in the Code R. I was tired of the poor performance,so swap the disc&pads for Galfer and now they have power. It is not crazy amount of power but enough for me being very light rider. You need to squeeze hard the brakes,even with 220 mm front rotor.
Which ones faster?
Haha you will find out tomorrow at 8pm!
What is your height? I suppose this is a large size..
Yes it's a large. I'm 6ft
I’m 6’1ish and ride a size XL slash gen 5right now, but transition says large, what do you think? (I like the Xl) But a 1322 wheelbase is inane on an Xl
£3500 for the nx alloy in UK. That's a £1000 more than a comparable top brand mtb. I guess transition have gone boutique?
Just under $5000 usd is definitely not boutique my dude
Which bikes are you comparing for £2500
@@fuddyduddy306 stuntjumper and orbea Occam. 2500 and 2300 for nx and fox float
0:02 That is the burliest, biggest, most capable bike stand I have ever seen
Very stable too haha
@@Blake_Cherubini Haha nice 👍
one word: Sprindex!!
theres so many frame cuts, I feel like I'm not getting the full truth here...
Frame cuts are used to delete pauses, umms, and uhhhs. Makes the video flow faster and better. Sorry you feel like you aren’t getting the truth☹️
Looks lk a weaker version of a gurilla gravity
This guy has jokes
If you review a bike, maybe you dont want to swap out literally half of its parts.
Like for real, what merit does this have, at all, to the average potential buyer?
If we were reviewing a specific model/build, that would have been specified in the title. It’s a bike check about how I have it set up for my preference and how I like it. Sorry it didn’t meet your expectations
once you got coil, you spoil.