Faulty Drum Machine / Sequencer - Yamaha RY10 | Can I FIX It?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 เม.ย. 2024
- While browsing eBay I came across a faulty Yamaha RY10 Drum machine / Sequencer. It was described as a "FAULTY UNIT" and "DEAD". Let's take it apart, see if we can figure out what's wrong with it, and hopefully repair it!
I'm not an expert, but I do enjoy trying to fix things.
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Yamaha Drum Machine Repair
Yamaha RY10 repair - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
My reminder of the day "Even if it looks totally ruined, have a go anyway." Thanks!
Cheers 👍
The "through the board" connectors remind of the early Philips CD101 CD players from the mid eighties that suffered the same fate and required some fine fusewire fed throught the hole and soldered up.
The shield is a piece of art. Such a nice combination of colours ! Battery leakage art - a new genre created by nature 😃
I like it, yes a new art genre 😂😂
I would like high res photos of it 😊
I was not expecting that when you opened it, now back to watch the rest of the video
You and me both 😂👍
That shield looks like an aerial photograph of the coast
Yes it does 😂😂👍
Did ya'll have a oil spill ??
Well you bought yourself a chemical waste dump there, it amazed me that you still got it working.
Good fix.👍🏼
Thanks 👍yes I wasn't too sure on this one at first...
It’s very satisfying watching your videos! Plus I learn a new thing here and there. Keep up the good work!
Awesome, thank you!
Electronics & Chemistry! Mick, you forgot alchemy, because everything you produce is pure gold. Well done, keep it up! 😁
Wow, thanks!
When you opened it up , I thought it was game over . Some of those tiny traces looked awful . But once again you saved another one from the bin ! Well done !👍
Thanks 👍
I really like the (dis)colouration of that shielding.
Yes it's pretty wild!
This seems like a super power that I hope to one day grasp.
Keep up the kick ass efforts!
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Thank you 👍
Thanks for the tip to use vinegar for cleaning the battery corrosion. I use baking soda for car batteries, but that is too messy for electronics.😃
You're welcome. Car batteries are acid, baking soda alkaline. Most household batteries are Alkaline and vinegar is an acid, so it neutralizes it.
Excellent diagnosis and repair! 👍
Thanks 🙂👍
Electronics and Chemistry teacher. What a surprise LOL
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You sir, have the patience of a saint. I love watching your streams. From a chap, me, who was born in Newcastle and moved away, in the mid-70s, when I was 5. Up here again in the Toon, for the weekend for a bit of nostalgia with my wife. Never tire of the accent and I have old tapes of when I had a strong accent. Ha'way Canny lad. 😅
Awesome, thank you!😂😂😂👍
That funky layer looks quite artistic.
Agree it does 🙂👍
Excellent repair sir, determination at its best👍👍 Corrosion is one of the worst, the resultant trace repair is tedious and time consuming. I thought it was going to be much worse trace wise, board looked pretty bad. Glad it worked out though, no components to replace either. Great video, well done, thanks for the work. See ya next time.
Thanks 👍
You are the best! You didn't put back the shield 😅
Thanks 👍yes it was a bit too corroded, and also it disintegrated where I was de-soldering it from the board.
Judging by that RF shield with psychedelic patterns this drum machine had to have been used to make psytrance music😂
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Absolutely love watching your vids. Sooooo satisfying 👍
Thanks Philip 👍
Another great video from the master of electrons!!!!!!🎉🎉🎉🎉for the win
Thanks David 👍
Great job as always, Mick. Can't wait until the next one. Thanks for sharing with us.
Cheers 👍
Good job Mick! That was a great save.
Thanks 👍🙂
The shield looked like a Google Earth pix of a river delta!Nice fix.
Thanks 👍Yes it does 😂😂
Another great fix, thanks Mick 😀
Thanks Mike 👍
The one & only undefeatable mr fix it😂👍🤘
😂😂😂Thanks 👍
When stripping wire with cuttters at 15:46 you need to hold the strippers the other way up, and they will strip much more easily. The angle of the cutting edge is then 90 degrees rather than 45 degrees.
Interesting, I'll try and remember that 👍
Saubere Reparatur! Danke 👍und LG.
Danke 👍🙂
14:30 is a little misleading to me and I'd like to share a general rule I picked up from a chemistry teacher that's done me well.
Acids dissolve metals and bases neutralize acids. (This is not perfect but it works rather well)
Vinegar is a weak acid. It is neutralizing the (probably KOH) base that came from the galvanic cells (batteries). If an acid as strong as the base (HCl is close enough for an example) were present in the same quantities the base was, there probably wouldn't have been a copper sheet left for the fine fellow to find.
This means the vinegar (dilute acetic acid which is itself a weak acid) is also dissolving the screws slowly. What he's doing is similar to the elementary science project of a baking soda volcano. His end goal is salt water.
When you mix acid and base to neutralize, your goal is salt water. Salt water conducts so even if you got the amount of acid to add to neutralize the base perfect, there's the reason to use something else after.
Personally (and it is personal preference, not a huge difference) I would have used distilled water followed by IPA instead of vinegar followed by IPA. If you don't use enough water, it will continue to corrode. If you don't use enough vinegar to neutralize the KOH, it will corrode. If you use too much vinegar, it will neutralize the KOH, but now there's acid so it'll continue to corrode. He will need a lot of IPA to clean it.
Even so, there will likely still be base left where it has gotten into legs of ICs or under tracks/traces and the device may fail eventually just because this corrosion happened in the first place with nothing he could do without precognition.
I use a good bit more water than he does vinegar. I rinse things off into a bucket so if a component gets loose it doesn't go down the sink. I don't reuse the water. If you use distilled water (no minerals, pure water) only once, you aren't adding yet another conductive and corrosive element. You are however, making a bucket of water with a higher than neutral pH...
Thanks for the detailed explanation James 👍
Fantastic get transfix watching you work brilliant 👍
Thanks 👍
Aside from falling in the toilet, there was a scratch in the black plastic face cover you didn’t buff out. . As usual Mick, excellent work.
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Absolutely awesome fix ... when u took the back off i said out loud "oh shit" the wife said what u done lol then i showed her and explained what i said it for )). Your Logical approach to fault finding is flawless keep em coming.
Thanks 👍yes I wasn't too hopeful at first either 🙂
Nice fix 👍
Thanks 👍
Great video Mate. You never installed the copper shield back. It is probably needed in order to stop other instruments from interfering with the drum machine. Those carbon contacts can be a pain in the butt. I never thought about carbon paint and I found some on Amazon and I have placed an order for some. Cheers mate.👍👍
Cheers mate👍, yes shielding to stop interference but I didn't fancy putting that shield back on 😂😂😂
That shield pattern reminded me of a HD Colours video. Great repair again Mick.
Thanks 👍
Sound job mick 👍🏼👍🏼😎
Cheer mate 👍
Mick, I’d love to have seen your face when you first took the lid off, “ oh for F**ks Sake “ lol I bet you thought wasted £35 straight away,
It did look horrendous at first glance. But anyhow great fix once again, lovely work on the Via’s 😊
Thanks Gary 👍I didn't know you were psychic 😂😂😂
@@BuyitFixit lol 😂
Great job, well done. Reminded me of the nightmare that was the Philips CD-104, one of the earliest consumer CD players back in the mid 80's. Fantastic bit of kit and so good, they are still holding great value 40 years on... but... the "vais", or "feed thoughts" as we called them back then, were a pain. They were actually through-board rivets and had to be drilled out and replaces with a wire, just have you have done here. Happy days though. Cheers 🍺
Thanks 👍and thanks for sharing. I've not came across one of those before or through board rivets!
This channel should have over 10 million subs.
I wish lol 😂😂😂
This is why I use lithium batteries in anything that is'nt in constant use, to protect those devices from battery leaks. Great repair, that thing looked like landfill when you first pulled the back cover off.
Good advice, yes I wasn't too sure on this one either when I took the back off 😂😂
I would be putting that shield in a nice frame and hang it up on the wall! Those patterns give it a topographical aspect that I find quite appealing!
Yes it is a pretty pattern 👍
Excellent.
Many thanks!
Nice fix
Cheers 👍
Nice to get it working. But I have to say that PC board is in really ratty condition. I wouldn't be surprised if it stops working in a week or so. Unless you can stop the corrosion, it will continue eating that PC board up! Maybe clean it very well and than spray it with some lacquer to help stop the corrosion. Thumbs Up!
Thanks 👍Yes agree, working for the moment but corrosion may still continue.
I didn't know that there was a conductive paint. Don't know why. Great work.
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😉 like Sorin's 'proper calibrated wire' 😆😉
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Hello Mick from Australia🙃
Vinegar a great universal cleaner and tastes great on your chips too😄
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That was a bit of an ordeal, but perseverance wins again!
Thanks 🙂👍
I remember having fractal software that could generate patterns like that.
Yes, me too!
How many edits in the via repair part LOL. dust and pools of Ipa appearing and disappearing. Nice fix.
Thanks 👍There was a few as I deleted a lot of the more boring parts to shorten the video. Also fast forwarding a lot of bits.
LOL.. Never seen a drum machine with a Nebula inside of it.. 😂
😂 ditto, it’s a trippy fix
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This is exactly the reason i use NIMH battery's in everything. yes there way more expensive but at least they don't wreck stuff if they ever leak, which i have never had happen yet aye. some of my cells are over 15 years old and still work perfectly fine too. i make sure to buy quality low self discharge cells since they actually last in things like remotes n stuff too
Good tip, Thanks for sharing 👍
Outstanding work, as always my man. 👏👏👏👏
I only use vinegar on me potato chips, not me electronic ones...🤣🤣🤣 For alkaline battery corrosion I prefer lemon juice. Sure vinegar may be cheaper but lemon juice smells a lot better on electronic chips compared to vinegar.
Thanks 👍😂😂😂😂
WOW just wow ive seen some corrosion but that takes the cake
Yes, I nearly swore like a pirate when I opened it too! 😂😂😂👍
I left a torch in the loft only for a weekend in the middle of summer a few years ago. The extreme heat made the D cell batteries leak a heck of a lot of liquid, I couldn't save the fairly expensive torch. This drum machine may have been stored for a long time in a loft with batteries left in.
Could well be the case .Thanks for sharing 👍
I did this once with a vacuum. I got it to work again, but it sounded like a jet engine, and it looked like someone was welding inside it. I probably should have left it in the dumpster. I gave it to Goodwill.
I recently looked at a dust extraction vacuum which had two motors in it. Water had dripped into one of them and it too looked like someone was welding in it. Tried cleaning the commutator up but it was still the same. New motor required.
@BuyitFixit Yeah, it was the same thing with mine. They were vacuuming something wet, and it wet the motor.
Good resurrection. So polite (1:11 to 1:17), my expression would have got me banned from Sunday School, not a job on a galleon.
😂😂😂Cheers Ralph 👍
I laughed and I cried and I laughed some more! Wow! that's a winner!
Cheers Terry 👍
Just curious, is flux super expensive there or do you not like cleaning it up after? 😂I lather it on. Excellent job on the repair, I am pretty sure I would have figure it to be goner and not even tried, you've given me inspiration!
Thanks 👍
Ok, what's going on? I think you're going to start a one man band here soon with all this sound equipment and things. 😂 😂 I was checking on shipping to the UK to send you a project I think you might like. I think I'll get a few more items first before I send anything, though. It's really expensive. I will email you when I'm ready to send it so I can get an address to send to. I think it would be a good addition to your TH-cam productions, or you could use it for the new band... 😂😂
I've tried to repair older remote controls with acid damage, but wasn't able too due to not having the conductive paint on hand. I did try to use some thin copper wire super glued down and the scraped off the top to expose the bare copper, but it didn't work. I will have to get some paint. I wonder how long it will stay good once it's opened? I'm always learning from your videos. Thank you again.
Thanks Ron 👍
Thats worth more than ever with that artwork in there, just write in the corner 'Banksy' send me half and I'll say nowt.....cheers !
😂😂😂Cheers AndyMouse 👍
13:40 It is funny to hear another advocate of backing the screw out sorta when you go to put it back in. I used to do that to prevent cross threading until my dad beat it out of me. He died a few years later so I have regressed to this behavior and stopped cross-threading screws :)
Yes, I actually didn't know about this until a few years back and I came across it while I was watching something on another TH-cam channel. Seems a good idea to me!
L key is good for telling jokes 😂
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It's a dirty shame they let this get this bad! If they were Duracell from Japan, they will corrode faster then most brands! Duracell used to be one of the best.
Yes, I wasn't too sure on this one, but it turned out good. Yes a few others have mentioned about Duracell. I always thought they were good too 🤔
Im worried that the corrosion is still slowly eating away at things underneath the solder mask. So there maybe more issues in future not much that can be done sadly.
Yes, agree. I think unfortunately you may well be correct.
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Woooooow its look like a almond bread art.
How many cost it ???. 10 000...100 000??
I want it ..by it 😍😍🤭🤭🤣🤣
Good work 👍👍🖖🖖
Thank you so much 😂😂😂👍
Hello, great video, thanks. What is the conductive gel you used? Thanks.
Thanks 👍The stuff I used was called "remote restore" and it's available on Amazon.
Hi, another great video. Going off topic, I think i saw a video of yours explaining how to put screws back into plastic. Do you know what the type of screws are called. I have removed some rusty ones from a job i was doing but dont know which ones i will need to replace them. I have looked at self tapping ones but these have a sharp point. Ant help would be appreciated. Cheers.
Thanks 👍I'm not too sure, but a quick search suggested "Round shank, coarse spiral threads, and blunt tip"
I thought this one was a lost causes at first.
You and me both 😂😂😂👍
I think I was there when this drum machine got damaged... a bloke shouted, "Get a real drummer ya bloody wankers!" and threw a pint at the band.
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Great job ! What was the wire you used to repair the via's ? Couldn't quite catch the name. Tks
Thanks 👍Kynar wire 🙂
Hi would a brush of some sort work for cleaning with the vinegar anf the Ipa?
Yes, absolutely
Start a 2nd channel of corrosion art. 😂
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Drum and bass in a box.
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Would an ultrasonic bath be worth doing after the unit is repaired?
Possibly, I'm no expert 👍
I have been watching you for a long time now. Sorry for leaving a comment now but I was wondering if that was a alcohol solution that you use on the circuit boards with the Q tips. I seen that you used vinegar on it too.
Thanks 👍It's 99% Isopropyl Alcohol..
@@BuyitFixit that's what I thought and it's what I use too when I do electronic repairs myself.
There will always be the question; How long until something else opens up?
Agree, corrosion is a bit of a nightmare..
What's the name of that conductive paint and can you use it on the button membrane?
It's called remote restore. Yes it should work on those too 👍
You are going to need a bigger cupboard 🙂
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For when a video about the tools used?
Looks like HazMat suit time.
Lol 😂😂
Google Earth image of the Amazon basin. Obviously.
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Is it safe to clean the rubber contacts with iso pro? ?
I think it's silicone, seems to be fine.
I'm experimenting with a clear acrylic spray on PCBs to retard corrosion in harsh environments. So far it looks good
I know a lot of PCB's that are used in harsh environments have a conformal coating (quite a few of the Milwaukee tools have it)You can buy acrylic conformal coating spray for that exact purpose, some seem to be acrylic and some seem to be silicone based.
46:50 That bass sound was used in the 90s song Good Vibrations by Marky Mark & The Funky Bunch.
th-cam.com/video/Lw4nvg8S7Nk/w-d-xo.html
Interesting, thanks for sharing 👍
How does this compare to the disaster I sent you?
Cakewalk 😂😂😂😂😂
Holy Shit Balls is what you should have said!
Are you taking it apart again to put that nasty looking shield back on? 🤔
😂😂😂I nearly said something like that 👍
😂😂😂I nearly said something like that 👍
No lol
Let me know if you are interested in selling this.
Yikes, such extensive alkaline leaking is terrible.. i would just rinse the board with vinegar and then a soapy water bath.
Thanks for the tip 👍
Well you paid too much! £39 for that and it wasn't even working. I know why you did it - for the content but that's a bit rich for something that was not working.
Yeah probably, some of the prices of broken stuff on eBay are almost the price of a working item...