Im in RCIA and after learning and researching I felt a draw to Saint Peter. I spoke to the Priest at my Church and I’m glad to say I will be choosing Saint Peter as my patron at my confirmation. Saint Peter pray for us.
"For Rome, in a specially honourable and solemn manner, commends the merits of Peter and of Paul, for this reason among others, namely, that they suffered [martyrdom] on the same day." St. Augustine, Harmony of the Gospels, I, 10.
Thank you very much Dr Grey. You have opened my heart and mind to St Peter. By digging deeper, you have helped me see St Peter in a new light. God bless
Saints and mary intercede for us. Theres a lot about that in bible and revelations with the mass in heaven but people dont understand it cux they dont know their catholic or arent catholic. Praying is conversation. No one is asking saints or mary to save them. Ther4 is only one savor of the world Jesus christ. We ask each oteht to pray for us. Its the exact same thing. The saints amd mary are all very much alivr in heaven. God is the god of the living not the dead. Thats why its called eternal life not eternal death. We are alive with god in heaven and all the angels and saints and apostles and mary mother of god
He didn’t betray Jesus. Please stop saying that. He was willing to go to war right now! He pulled a sword out and started slashing. He only got scared after the Lord told him to stand down.
Good points! I have heard much error taught from pulpits about Peters actions during the arrest and trial of Christ that were 1/2 truths or completely in error. We do know after Jesus’ arrest Peter followed from a distance and was allowed into courtyard thanks to John and that Peter warmed himself by the fire. It must have been an extremely intimidating, dangerous scene. Who are we to critique Peter’s thrice denial? Everyone else fled.
@@abrahamphilip6439 Abraham, So you know, Pope Francis is just a successor of Peter, not a "projection". I don't know where you got such strange notion. God bless.
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Theres a difference in totally walking away and denting god amd turning from your sin and being heartly truthfully sorry. God can forgiven annything. He knew peter was gonna deny him. But he chose him to start his church.
Oh for Pete’s sake Tim! Of course Jesus is smart and clever. Of course HE knows sound travels well over water; it was made by HIM! 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 You crack me up!
@John Pereira John, Absolutely correct. There's a huge difference between deny and betray; Peter was fearful and had not received the Holy Spirit from Jesus yet, which would happen after the Resurrection. God bless, brother.
Haha potato potato looking for conflict were there is none....he didnt even emphasis on it at all...the message was clear st peter was all kind of things a human could be even tho he was chosen by God simply emulate how he lived and even asked for forgivness
I'm terrified I'm getting ayed, but I'd be lying if I said I don't like the idea of telling a time loop to go away. If it's my call, the gates of heaven are open.
@@joecastillo8798 there has been a lot of beliefs. I kind of cut out the theory that Peter and his wife were divorced, because if that would’ve been the case, then the Bible wouldn’t have said Peter’s mother-in-law. But it’s also possible that his wife may not have been a part of his ministry or may have just been like a supporter of his ministry. or like you said, she may have passed away But ultimately the people who know the truth about it is God and Peter himself
So what ever sins you do and have in action or even just heart and mind you must not believe to repent and be forgiven. Im very heart broken for you. I will he praying for you
This should be interesting- as long as it’s not taught be the knights of Columbus then I’ll be able to listen to it. I will know in 5 minutes if this is bullshit.
James was not the first bishop just cux he stayed amd protected the city. Peter is the rock jesus built his holy catholic church on. He was the leader became bishop them the 1st pope
March 19,2024 📒 #Christlike The closest man will probably be to Christ is "Peter"💌 1:27 he believes because Jesus says so. He walks on the Sea because Jesus says come. Now we all know that water causes us to sink if we walk on it or in it But God gives us a little to go on weather causes this substance to freeze to be hardened but Peter went another way just because Jesus says so .he believes like a child there because Jesus says so . Working on faith showing the concerned that they have a portion of that mustard seed ,very small seed and guess what that's just enough that thought that God can handle it. Now this can go the other way which causes you to lose what you have .🧃🍪📬March 19,2024📒 7:18
Peter was the Apostle to the Jews, Paul was the Apostle to the Gentiles: Ephesians 3:1 KJV For this cause *I Paul, the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles,* Galatians 2:7-8 But contrariwise, when they saw that *the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;* [8] (For he that wrought effectually in *Peter to the apostleship of the circumcision, the same was mighty in me toward the Gentiles:* ) Acts 15:23,25 And they wrote letters by them after this manner; *The apostles and elders and brethren send greeting unto the brethren which are of the Gentiles* in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia: [25] It seemed good unto us, being assembled with one accord, *to send chosen men unto you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul,*
Priests dont get married so they can focux on god and the people of his church he is pastor of. Its his job and hes married to the church. A family gets in the way of that calling. Not what god wants. You dont get to question it
Haha deny jesus own words. Really ? Jesus said peter you are rock on which i build my church. Not a pebble. He was chossen by god. Not for you to judge and decide
Don't throw rocks at people because you think you never did anything wrong in comparison to the pretty girl who won't smile in your direction or give you the time of day.. Don't ever participate in gang stonings ever again in the name of the table manners god who lives behind the star curtain above. Don't whip sharp stones at annoying barking dogs either.
Peter was leading the early church Dr. Gray said. Peter was going here and there preaching the good news with John. The one who stayed in Jerusalem to protect the community was James. Thereafter James became the 1st bishop of Jerusalem. The situation was even more fluid than that. Ladies as well as guys were preaching. There was a female hierarchy.of preachers led by Mary Magdalene and the other hierarchy comprised James, Peter and John. If you read the gospel.of.Thomas? You will see the statement by Thomas to Peter - "Jesus preferred Mary (Magdalene) to you." So it was a bit more fluid then the good Professor is trying.to convey in the beginning. Why do they ignore or hurdle over the.leadershop position of James? But by the time Peter gets to Rome, he is in the ascendancy and Mary Magdalene is out of the limelight altogether. Thereafter the leadership becomes exclusively male up to today.
The so called 'gospel of thomas', 'gospel of mary', gospel of judas and others are heretical writings are antichrist and totally alien to the true Faith. They were most likely written by gnostics who had a counterfeit gospel. Do not be deceived by them.
Jesus never said he would give the keys to Mary Magdalene. "You are Peter and upon this Rock I will build my church." Remember that? Secondly, Jesus never chose any woman among his 12 apostles. So, stop talking from inference. Speak facts.ok
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Jesus also said if you deny me before men I will deny you before my father in heaven. But then again the Catholic roman church will.easy debunk Jesus statement as not applicable to peter. They are great 👍😃 at denying and convincing you that peter so awesome denying Jesus Christ God resurrected king 👑 as if simple repentance after that is ok all.good. and Jesus words do not apply if u repent yes we know we know .. It's in the bible recorded yet we read it w.the roman Catholic eyes.
@@johntaylor38 It's funny. Protestant fundamentalists used to be able to marshal evidence from the biblical record and actually attempt to make a forensic argument for debate. Now, what passes for accepted wisdom in Protestant fundamentalist circles is bald assertion, or worse, derisive comments, tauntingly repeated. You probably believe you're saying something. i). Let me show you what I mean. In Tanakh (what Christians call the Old Testament), BOTH YHWH AND His covenant mediator (Abraham) are spoken of as 'rock': YHWH in an ordinate, infinite, ultimate, absolutely transcendent sense; and Abraham in a subordinate, finite, penultimate, limited sense. "Give ear, O heavens, and let me speak; let the earth hear the words of my mouth! May my teaching soak in like the rain, and my utterance drench like the dew, like a downpour upon the grass, like a shower upon the crops. For I will proclaim the name of the LORD, praise the greatness of our God! The Rock-how faultless are his deeds, how right all his ways! A faithful God, without deceit, just and upright is he!" cf. Deut. 32: 1-4 "Listen to me, you who pursue justice, who seek the LORD; Look to the rock from which you were hewn, to the quarry from which you were taken; Look to Abraham, your father, and to Sarah, who gave you birth; Though he was but one when I called him, I blessed him and made him many." cf. Isaiah 51: 1-2 Unfortunately, most Protestant fundamentalists think in starkly binary: EITHER....OR....thinking. This is NOT the biblical manner of thinking. It isn't: either YHWH is 'Rock', OR man is 'rock'. The biblical method is: BOTH...AND... - both YHWH is 'Rock' (in an ultimate sense), AND man is 'rock' (in a penultimate sense). ii). With regards to the papacy, the typical Protestant fundamentalist objection is the same strictly binary mentality: EITHER Christ is 'Rock', OR Peter is 'rock', but they both CAN'T be. This is not biblical thinking. Take a look at this passage: "Come to Him, a living stone, rejected by human beings but chosen and precious in the sight of God, and, like living stones, let yourselves be built into a spiritual house to be a holy priesthood to offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. For it says in scripture: 'Behold, I am laying a stone in Zion, a cornerstone, chosen and precious, and whoever believes in it shall not be put to shame.'" cf. I Peter 2: 4-6 In just three short verses, BOTH Jesus Christ is metaphorically referred to as 'Rock' ("Come to Him, a living stone...."), AND those who have become children of God are referred to as 'rock' ("...like living stones, let yourselves be built...."). Obviously Christ is a 'stone' in an absolutely transcendent sense. However, that doesn't prevent St. Peter from referring to human beings who have come to saving faith in Christ ALSO as "stones" in a subordinate, dependent, limited sense. THIS is the biblical manner of thinking: BOTH...AND.....; not, EITHER.....OR.... Let's look at another passage: Obviously Jesus Christ is spoken of as the 'cornerstone'. That doesn't prevent, however, St. Paul from referring to the 'apostles and prophets' ALSO as being 'foundation' (bedrock) AND, by further extension, believers in Christ through the preaching and teaching of the 'apostles and prophets; are ALSO spoken of as 'rock' (you also are being built into a dwelling place of God - an oblique reference to the Temple in Jerusalem as a metaphor for the members of the Church): "So then you are no longer strangers and sojourners, but you are fellow citizens with the holy ones and members of the household of God, built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the capstone. Through him the whole structure is held together and grows into a temple sacred in the Lord; in him you also are being built together into a dwelling place of God in the Spirit." cf. Ephesians 2: 19-22 iii). With this in mind, it is worth looking again at the verses which Protestant fundamentalists weep, wail and gnash their teeth over: "Jesus said to him in reply, 'Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah. For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my heavenly Father. And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it." cf. Matthew 16: 17-18 The typical Protestant fundamentalist objection is EITHER Christ is 'rock', OR Peter is 'rock', but they both CAN'T be 'rock'. And YET, here is Jesus Christ (the 'cornerstone'), calling Peter 'rock'. Obviously, the words are necessary, but what is important is what they mean. Protestant fundamentalists mistakenly believe the Catholic Church teaches, and individual Catholics believe, Peter is being spoken of as on the same level as Jesus Christ. But that is NOT so. ONLY Jesus Christ is divine. Only Jesus Christ is the only begotten Son of God, the second person of the Holy Trinity. But that 'cornerstone, from His own mouth, calls St. Peter 'rock' in a subordinate, dependent, finite, penultimate sense: "YOU are rock". Obviously, Jesus Christ doesn't mean, "YOU are God". Nor does He mean: "YOU are equal with me". What He DOES MEAN, however, is, "YOU are my prime minister", "YOU are the first among the Apostles". There is such an abundance of evidence from the biblical record that this is so.
@@QuisutDeusmpc look at it the other way if Peter was the rock don't you think he would have acknowledged it , no he didn't. There is no biblical or historical evidence.
@@johntaylor38 Are you incapable of rational thought? Peter received the charge from Jesus Christ to lead His Church after His resurrection from the dead. After Christ's Ascension into heaven, the WHOLE of the Book of the Acts of the Apostles is replete with stories of St. Peter living up to that charge - preaching and teaching the Gospel in the name of Jesus Christ.
Peter has good heart that even THE LORD JESUS CHRIST SAW! TO READ PERFECTION IS THE STUDY OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST! MEN CAN NOT EVEN SPEAK OF PERFECTION! MANY THINGS THAT PETER AND PAUL MADE OVERREACHING MERCY OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST! JOHN 14:12-17. IS THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH AND REVELATION 21:8. IS THE TRUTH OF EVERLASTING LIFE! Revelation 21:8 (ESV): 8 But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”
You really don’t need the church. Just scripture. If people just read gods word and practice the free will he gave us, that’s enough. Only authority is gods words. Came to see who St. Peter was since I started the Bible and in 3 days got to Joshua. Honestly lean more towards Protestant and not catholic
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I have loved Peter for loving Christ thus since I was 4. Thank you for speaking of them both .
I took this bible study - I have taken many - this was one of the best!
Im in RCIA and after learning and researching I felt a draw to Saint Peter. I spoke to the Priest at my Church and I’m glad to say I will be choosing Saint Peter as my patron at my confirmation. Saint Peter pray for us.
"For Rome, in a specially honourable and solemn manner, commends the merits of Peter and of Paul, for this reason among others, namely, that they suffered [martyrdom] on the same day." St. Augustine, Harmony of the Gospels, I, 10.
Thank you very much Dr Grey. You have opened my heart and mind to St Peter. By digging deeper, you have helped me see St Peter in a new light. God bless
Great bible study. Thank you
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Love Peter. He gives me hope.
Thank you 🙏🏻 thank you 🙏🏻 MORE of this please!🕯
This channel has always great teaching
Wow 😳 am so glad I got this lecture. Thank you, Dr. Tim Gray ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Thank you ! God has truly blessed you to share his word!
Excelent and moving!
Good study of the apostle Peter.
Thank you for this lecture ❤️✝️🙏🏼
As we get closer to Joseph and Mary we are with Christ.
Allan.
Such wonderful content. Thank you.
Great talk! “Criteria” is plural. God bless!
Wonderful.
I hate going to confession.
Then I think Of St Peter.
He watched Jesus do miracles
Then he denied knowing him
Amazing thought!
@@jwlafferty
St Peter was a train wreck.
Just like me
Wow, very nice.
I think there is an echo of King David in Apostle and Saint Peter.
Saints and mary intercede for us. Theres a lot about that in bible and revelations with the mass in heaven but people dont understand it cux they dont know their catholic or arent catholic. Praying is conversation. No one is asking saints or mary to save them. Ther4 is only one savor of the world
Jesus christ. We ask each oteht to pray for us. Its the exact same thing. The saints amd mary are all very much alivr in heaven. God is the god of the living not the dead. Thats why its called eternal life not eternal death. We are alive with god in heaven and all the angels and saints and apostles and mary mother of god
He didn’t betray Jesus. Please stop saying that. He was willing to go to war right now! He pulled a sword out and started slashing. He only got scared after the Lord told him to stand down.
Good points! I have heard much error taught from pulpits about Peters actions during the arrest and trial of Christ that were 1/2 truths or completely in error. We do know after Jesus’ arrest Peter followed from a distance and was allowed into courtyard thanks to John and that Peter warmed himself by the fire. It must have been an extremely intimidating, dangerous scene. Who are we to critique Peter’s thrice denial? Everyone else fled.
Why 12 ,
Apostles and not 11 with a view to Our Lady of Lourdes on 11th February 1858 and 12 years after La Salette Secret 1846.
Allan.
Are you doing to have other episodes on this. I don't want to start and the other episodes are not posted.
Saint Peter was an apostle, and sn elder in the church of Christ!
It’s the ONLY church in which to be Christian!
What does the Bronze image of St Peter in Peters Basilica denote ?
@Abraham Philip
Abraham,
The bronze image depicts Peter's Strength and permanence.
Peter is not like Pope Francis projecting himself , sitting in his chair, but says what Christ wants.
@@abrahamphilip6439
Abraham,
So you know, Pope Francis is just a successor of Peter, not a "projection".
I don't know where you got such strange notion.
God bless.
Give unto God what is to God , What specifically is it ?
Glory to the LORD and saviour GOD ( THE LORD JESUS CHRIST) .
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@po18guy I stated the word meaning. it does not include the rcc.
Theres a difference in totally walking away and denting god amd turning from your sin and being heartly truthfully sorry. God can forgiven annything. He knew peter was gonna deny him. But he chose him to start his church.
Oh for Pete’s sake Tim! Of course Jesus is smart and clever. Of course HE knows sound travels well over water; it was made by HIM! 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
You crack me up!
Peter did not Betray The Lord… Judas did. Peter, denied The Lord. There’s a difference.
@John Pereira
John,
Absolutely correct. There's a huge difference between deny and betray; Peter was fearful and had not received the Holy Spirit from Jesus yet, which would happen after the Resurrection.
God bless, brother.
John Piera isn't denial the same as betraying. If someone denied knowing you wouldn't you feel betrayed?
@@barbarawhitt8753 agreed
Haha potato potato looking for conflict were there is none....he didnt even emphasis on it at all...the message was clear st peter was all kind of things a human could be even tho he was chosen by God simply emulate how he lived and even asked for forgivness
@@barbarawhitt8753 I total agree
I'm terrified I'm getting ayed, but I'd be lying if I said I don't like the idea of telling a time loop to go away. If it's my call, the gates of heaven are open.
Peter was married. Jesus healed his mother-in-law. If Peter was married, why can't other priests be married.
There's no mention of Peter's wife in the Bible. The assumption is she had died.
@@joecastillo8798 there has been a lot of beliefs. I kind of cut out the theory that Peter and his wife were divorced, because if that would’ve been the case, then the Bible wouldn’t have said Peter’s mother-in-law. But it’s also possible that his wife may not have been a part of his ministry or may have just been like a supporter of his ministry. or like you said, she may have passed away But ultimately the people who know the truth about it is God and Peter himself
@@gvire
Well reasoned.
The probability is that Peter's wife may have died. That is why he was able to go to distant lands.
@@joecastillo8798 yeah. It would make sense. But like I said, only God and Peter himself know
So what ever sins you do and have in action or even just heart and mind you must not believe to repent and be forgiven. Im very heart broken for you. I will he praying for you
This should be interesting- as long as it’s not taught be the knights of Columbus then I’ll be able to listen to it. I will know in 5 minutes if this is bullshit.
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James was not the first bishop just cux he stayed amd protected the city. Peter is the rock jesus built his holy catholic church on. He was the leader became bishop them the 1st pope
March 19,2024
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#Christlike
The closest man will probably be to Christ is
"Peter"💌 1:27 he believes because Jesus says so.
He walks on the Sea because Jesus says come.
Now we all know that water causes us to sink if we walk on it or in it
But God gives us a little to go on weather causes this substance to freeze to be hardened but Peter went another way just because Jesus says so .he believes like a child there because Jesus says so .
Working on faith showing the concerned that they have a portion of that mustard seed ,very small seed and guess what that's just enough that thought that God can handle it.
Now this can go the other way which causes you to lose what you have .🧃🍪📬March 19,2024📒 7:18
Peter was the Apostle to the Jews, Paul was the Apostle to the Gentiles:
Ephesians 3:1 KJV
For this cause *I Paul, the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles,*
Galatians 2:7-8
But contrariwise, when they saw that *the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;*
[8] (For he that wrought effectually in *Peter to the apostleship of the circumcision, the same was mighty in me toward the Gentiles:* )
Acts 15:23,25
And they wrote letters by them after this manner; *The apostles and elders and brethren send greeting unto the brethren which are of the Gentiles* in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia:
[25] It seemed good unto us, being assembled with one accord, *to send chosen men unto you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul,*
One guy for all of the Roman Empire and 12 for the Jews that basically still haven’t converted. Your interpretation of scripture is atrocious.
Priests dont get married so they can focux on god and the people of his church he is pastor of. Its his job and hes married to the church. A family gets in the way of that calling. Not what god wants. You dont get to question it
JESUS CHIRST IS THE ONLY LIVING GOD CALL THE ANCIENT GOD OF ISRAEL.. GOD MADE ROME GOD TRUE CHURCH
Its all passed down amd propf in. history
No one made that up
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😂👉🗝️? 👉vedia 😂
Haha deny jesus own words. Really ? Jesus said peter you are rock on which i build my church. Not a pebble. He was chossen by god. Not for you to judge and decide
Don't throw rocks at people because you think you never did anything wrong in comparison to the pretty girl who won't smile in your direction or give you the time of day.. Don't ever participate in gang stonings ever again in the name of the table manners god who lives behind the star curtain above. Don't whip sharp stones at annoying barking dogs either.
Peter was leading the early church Dr. Gray said. Peter was going here and there preaching the good news with John. The one who stayed in Jerusalem to protect the community was James. Thereafter James became the 1st bishop of Jerusalem. The situation was even more fluid than that. Ladies as well as guys were preaching. There was a female hierarchy.of preachers led by Mary Magdalene and the other hierarchy comprised James, Peter and John. If you read the gospel.of.Thomas? You will see the statement by Thomas to Peter - "Jesus preferred Mary (Magdalene) to you." So it was a bit more fluid then the good Professor is trying.to convey in the beginning. Why do they ignore or hurdle over the.leadershop position of James? But by the time Peter gets to Rome, he is in the ascendancy and Mary Magdalene is out of the limelight altogether. Thereafter the leadership becomes exclusively male up to today.
The gospel of Thomas is not in the bible for good reason.
It is a late 2nd century writing that is clearly gnostic.
The so called 'gospel of thomas', 'gospel of mary', gospel of judas and others are heretical writings are antichrist and totally alien to the true Faith. They were most likely written by gnostics who had a counterfeit gospel. Do not be deceived by them.
Jesus never said he would give the keys to Mary Magdalene. "You are Peter and upon this Rock I will build my church." Remember that?
Secondly, Jesus never chose any woman among his 12 apostles.
So, stop talking from inference. Speak facts.ok
@Abraham De Cruz
Abraham,
Peter is the only one who Jesus chose to give the Keys to the kingdom of heaven. He is the chief Apostle.
Today, the “female” leader’s are called, “abbots” in the convent’s of “nuns” some are even called “mother’s” in the family’s home’s…. you can not lessen the role of women within The Holy Roman Catholic Apostolic Church ⛪️🇻🇦
From Dublin Ireland 🇮🇪
Jesus also said if you deny me before men I will deny you before my father in heaven.
But then again the Catholic roman church will.easy debunk Jesus statement as not applicable to peter.
They are great 👍😃 at denying and convincing you that peter so awesome denying Jesus Christ God resurrected king 👑 as if simple repentance after that is ok all.good. and Jesus words do not apply if u repent yes we know we know ..
It's in the bible recorded yet we read it w.the roman Catholic eyes.
Peter was nothing special , just the same as the other decipels a pebble not a rock .
All Twelve were Apostles, ONLY ONE was the head of the college of the Twelve.
@@QuisutDeusmpc but only a pebble , not a rock.
@@johntaylor38
It's funny. Protestant fundamentalists used to be able to marshal evidence from the biblical record and actually attempt to make a forensic argument for debate. Now, what passes for accepted wisdom in Protestant fundamentalist circles is bald assertion, or worse, derisive comments, tauntingly repeated. You probably believe you're saying something.
i). Let me show you what I mean. In Tanakh (what Christians call the Old Testament), BOTH YHWH AND His covenant mediator (Abraham) are spoken of as 'rock': YHWH in an ordinate, infinite, ultimate, absolutely transcendent sense; and Abraham in a subordinate, finite, penultimate, limited sense.
"Give ear, O heavens, and let me speak; let the earth hear the words of my mouth! May my teaching soak in like the rain, and my utterance drench like the dew, like a downpour upon the grass, like a shower upon the crops. For I will proclaim the name of the LORD, praise the greatness of our God! The Rock-how faultless are his deeds, how right all his ways! A faithful God, without deceit, just and upright is he!"
cf. Deut. 32: 1-4
"Listen to me, you who pursue justice, who seek the LORD; Look to the rock from which you were hewn, to the quarry from which you were taken; Look to Abraham, your father, and to Sarah, who gave you birth; Though he was but one when I called him, I blessed him and made him many."
cf. Isaiah 51: 1-2
Unfortunately, most Protestant fundamentalists think in starkly binary: EITHER....OR....thinking. This is NOT the biblical manner of thinking. It isn't: either YHWH is 'Rock', OR man is 'rock'. The biblical method is: BOTH...AND... - both YHWH is 'Rock' (in an ultimate sense), AND man is 'rock' (in a penultimate sense).
ii). With regards to the papacy, the typical Protestant fundamentalist objection is the same strictly binary mentality: EITHER Christ is 'Rock', OR Peter is 'rock', but they both CAN'T be. This is not biblical thinking. Take a look at this passage:
"Come to Him, a living stone, rejected by human beings but chosen and precious in the sight of God, and, like living stones, let yourselves be built into a spiritual house to be a holy priesthood to offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. For it says in scripture:
'Behold, I am laying a stone in Zion, a cornerstone, chosen and precious, and whoever believes in it shall not be put to shame.'" cf. I Peter 2: 4-6
In just three short verses, BOTH Jesus Christ is metaphorically referred to as 'Rock' ("Come to Him, a living stone...."), AND those who have become children of God are referred to as 'rock' ("...like living stones, let yourselves be built...."). Obviously Christ is a 'stone' in an absolutely transcendent sense. However, that doesn't prevent St. Peter from referring to human beings who have come to saving faith in Christ ALSO as "stones" in a subordinate, dependent, limited sense. THIS is the biblical manner of thinking: BOTH...AND.....; not, EITHER.....OR....
Let's look at another passage:
Obviously Jesus Christ is spoken of as the 'cornerstone'. That doesn't prevent, however, St. Paul from referring to the 'apostles and prophets' ALSO as being 'foundation' (bedrock) AND, by further extension, believers in Christ through the preaching and teaching of the 'apostles and prophets; are ALSO spoken of as 'rock' (you also are being built into a dwelling place of God - an oblique reference to the Temple in Jerusalem as a metaphor for the members of the Church):
"So then you are no longer strangers and sojourners, but you are fellow citizens with the holy ones and members of the household of God, built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the capstone. Through him the whole structure is held together and grows into a temple sacred in the Lord; in him you also are being built together into a dwelling place of God in the Spirit." cf. Ephesians 2: 19-22
iii). With this in mind, it is worth looking again at the verses which Protestant fundamentalists weep, wail and gnash their teeth over:
"Jesus said to him in reply, 'Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah. For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my heavenly Father. And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it."
cf. Matthew 16: 17-18
The typical Protestant fundamentalist objection is EITHER Christ is 'rock', OR Peter is 'rock', but they both CAN'T be 'rock'. And YET, here is Jesus Christ (the 'cornerstone'), calling Peter 'rock'. Obviously, the words are necessary, but what is important is what they mean. Protestant fundamentalists mistakenly believe the Catholic Church teaches, and individual Catholics believe, Peter is being spoken of as on the same level as Jesus Christ. But that is NOT so.
ONLY Jesus Christ is divine. Only Jesus Christ is the only begotten Son of God, the second person of the Holy Trinity. But that 'cornerstone, from His own mouth, calls St. Peter 'rock' in a subordinate, dependent, finite, penultimate sense: "YOU are rock".
Obviously, Jesus Christ doesn't mean, "YOU are God". Nor does He mean: "YOU are equal with me". What He DOES MEAN, however, is, "YOU are my prime minister", "YOU are the first among the Apostles". There is such an abundance of evidence from the biblical record that this is so.
@@QuisutDeusmpc look at it the other way if Peter was the rock don't you think he would have acknowledged it , no he didn't. There is no biblical or historical evidence.
@@johntaylor38
Are you incapable of rational thought? Peter received the charge from Jesus Christ to lead His Church after His resurrection from the dead. After Christ's Ascension into heaven, the WHOLE of the Book of the Acts of the Apostles is replete with stories of St. Peter living up to that charge - preaching and teaching the Gospel in the name of Jesus Christ.
Jesus is the way nobody else pray to Jesus
Do you ever ask anyone to pray for you? The second you do, you are making that person a mediator between you and Jesus.
@@row1landrexactly, I feel like the prayer to saints is really protestants only way to try and criticize Catholics
Peter has good heart that even THE LORD JESUS CHRIST SAW! TO READ PERFECTION IS THE STUDY OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST! MEN CAN NOT EVEN SPEAK OF PERFECTION! MANY THINGS THAT PETER AND PAUL MADE OVERREACHING MERCY OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST! JOHN 14:12-17. IS THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH AND REVELATION 21:8. IS THE TRUTH OF EVERLASTING LIFE! Revelation 21:8 (ESV): 8 But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”
You really don’t need the church. Just scripture. If people just read gods word and practice the free will he gave us, that’s enough. Only authority is gods words. Came to see who St. Peter was since I started the Bible and in 3 days got to Joshua. Honestly lean more towards Protestant and not catholic